pif-hoenn-discussion

[brisk vessel]

https://youtu.be/Ruu3jvkkFpc?feature=shared

As a person who played Ark
It looks neat

And the fact it has multiplayer is also a plus since it means you get to shoot people with ur friends/shoot your friends

[glass patio]

i dont know what is ark 👍

[brisk vessel]

Bro is living under a rock

[glass patio]

mostly

[gray vine]

ark was fun, got it when it was on sale. 20 euro for main game+every dlc and the last to survuve gamemode

ut i got kinda bored fast

[brisk vessel]

Yea it's generally more fun to play Ark with friends on multiplayer servers

There's only so much you can do in single player after all

[glossy osprey]

Ark was the bomb too bad I never got to play it, so jealous of the playthroughs when I was younger

[gray vine]

oh nah it would be less fun then

i cant stand multiplayer, its singleplayer or nothin

[brisk vessel]

Fair enough then

[gray vine]

uh why not play it now then lul

its still getting updates just gotta buy ark evolved, i have og ark myself sicne it was cheaper

[glass patio]

i dont understand anything dhsjwjwjajkaksjsjdjw

oh i got an excuse to get this out

this is #pif-hoenn-discussion

[gray vine]

Moth Rider

clearly a new pokemon

[brisk vessel]

We should add Palworld mons to PIF

[glass patio]

help

does palworld have a mon that can only be hit by super effective attacks

[brisk vessel]

Idk it's not out yet

[glass patio]

couragestar is typing…

couragestar when new pokemon discussion

[brisk vessel]

We should add Diancie and Archeops k thanks bye

[glass patio]

add carbink without diancie

[stuck bane]

I’m slow at typing on my phone ok? Now im not gonna say what I was gonna say

[brisk vessel]

Carbink isn't woman enough so Nuh uh

[stuck bane]

Anyways diancie and archeops would be great

[glass patio]

wait no

[glass patio]

but funni roc

[brisk vessel]

I like women

[stuck bane]

Carbink could be fun but it feels more dependent on diancie, like the headcanon/dexcanon that Carbink become diancie

[brisk vessel]

Why did it send like that

[vague canopy]

When is this multi hit freak gonna get in

[brisk vessel]

Whatever I'm too lazy to delete and repost my message

[stuck bane]

Classic Reddit

[glass patio]

i used it on showdown it’s literally better maushold

also it was my first ever shiny so it’s special for me

[brisk vessel]

Fuse in natdex with Bax for The Killer

[glass patio]

WAIT CARBINK AND DIANCIE PLS GET ADDED TOGETHER AND DIANCIE/CARBINK CAN BE SMOL DIANCIE

[stuck bane]

DUDE yes minccino is so good, chinchilla fusions would go so hard, and it brings a ton of potential with unique multihit moves

[brisk vessel]

I wish this game had Loaded Dice so we could run Technician instead

[glass patio]

true

[brisk vessel]

Technician is what makes Cinccino better than Maushold in Showdown

[glass patio]

Cinccino @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Tidy Up
• Tail Slap
• Rock Blast
• Bullet Seed

[brisk vessel]

Since it won't need to run skill link and can make use of it's better stats

[stuck bane]

Carbink plus diancie is probably what I’d want, they’re kind of counterparts, but first I’d want one of the fairy type heads like Slurpuff

[vague canopy]

Yeah was gonna say I don't think loaded dice is in this game

I still think skill link would be fun

[stuck bane]

Yeah tidy up is the thing that makes cinccino the craziest, loaded dice is a nice benefit too, fuck it here’s the copy paste:

Cinccino: it’s already an overworld Mon, and good attack and speed, also brings chinchilla fusions, is the only pure normal type to learn bullet seed, and the only pure normal type to learn rock blast, and is the only Pokémon to naturally learn tail slap

[glass patio]

look at epic chinchilla build

wait no tidy up is gen 9 fuck

[brisk vessel]

Yea Tidy Up is just Defog + Dragon Dance so it's very good

It's basically become a Mini Baxcalibur at this point

[vague canopy]

Could always get some other sort of boost with a fusion instead of tidy up

[glass patio]

Trueee

[brisk vessel]

Fuse it With Baxcalibur so you can run Icicle Spear too

[glass patio]

golden boy

again, gen 5 is great

[stuck bane]

…. Vanilluxe is the only pure ice type to get icicle spear

[brisk vessel]

I already got my fav pick so I don't really mind whatever else gets in

[glass patio]

Ice cream

[brisk vessel]

Archeops Diancie Golisopod and Yveltal are others I'd like

[glass patio]

Yooo imagine all the ice cream fusions

[brisk vessel]

I've been seeing those already with the recent Slurpuff propaganda

[stable vapor]

Wait, they're adding more pokemon?

[stuck bane]

This is a top 20 new Pokémon discussion worked on, and I gotta say I like it

[glass patio]

Who knows there’s enough available slots for around thousands(?) of pokemon generations

[stuck bane]

See pins, all on that list but Melo/cress/Brux have been added to the game

[glass patio]

you can’t have diancie without smol boi

the 20 (plus one) pokemon that must be in

[stuck bane]

That is an unfortunate cost, and I assume that means you’re swapping out the only other rock type on that list?

[brisk vessel]

It's missing Archeops

[stable vapor]

Well I knew about that update, but is there gonna be another one or smthn?

[glass patio]

wait nonono

[stuck bane]

Archeops would be cool, but it’s under minior for sure (though it might still get in before minior because vetoed)

[glass patio]

let’s add carbink without diancie

[brisk vessel]

I'll kill you to death

[stuck bane]

I think the 4 unova mons I’ll be repping are Eelektross, archeops, Lilligant, and Mienshao, since Mienshao was surprisingly popular

If another vote were to come up, of course

[proud lion]

Elemental Monkeys for April Starters

[stuck bane]

I still love my idea so much “new bug patch dropped guys, can you make a new save file and test it?” And then BAM! Monkeys as starters

[glass patio]

chill, fuse it with gardevoir or any feminine pokemon to get diancie at home

[brisk vessel]

But then I can't fuse Diancie with anything to make it pretty

[glass patio]

I love that joke so much please make this a thing

[brisk vessel]

This would be funny

[glass patio]

you can fuse stuff with carbink to make them funny

[brisk vessel]

Nah I'd vote Monkeys

[glass patio]

Nah I’d win

[stuck bane]

I gotta agree with egg, look at the diancies that ribbon has made and that’s your answer of who should get in first between Carbink and diancie (though the binkster is still a fine Pokémon)

[glass patio]

i’m just joking with carbink lol

of course diancie would be better than carbink

[brisk vessel]

But yea Diancie and Archeops will be my top picks for the next batch (if we get one)

[glass patio]

although diancie with carbink to make smol diancie would still be funny

[brisk vessel]

Just fuse Diancie with Electrode to make Pink Carbink ez ez

[glass patio]

lmao

[stuck bane]

Those are S tier picks for sure, a lot of stuff I might not have given 3s I’ll give 3s now after seeing sprites and discussing new options (everything that isn’t an S tier we’ve discussed or a unova mon gets a 0, and everything else gets a 3)

[brisk vessel]

I'd also be pretty happy with Cryogonal

I have some ideas on what I could make with it

(Also PMD fusions)

[stuck bane]

Oh yeah did you know Cryogonal gets bind for some reason?

[brisk vessel]

Yea
I never got why though

[stuck bane]

Slap that in with whatever weird attract stuff it used to have and Cryogonal is a weird one, still a good pick though:

Cryogonal: snowflake fusions, and one of the highest special defense stats in the game, as well as a good special attack and speed, and the only ice type (besides frost rotom) with access to levitate, also the only ice type with access to bind (for some reason), and the only pure ice type with natural access to night slash, and the only non-legendary pure ice type with access to ancient power, and the only pure ice type with access to confuse ray

[glass patio]

gen 5

[brisk vessel]

Both it's stats and design scream "head fusion"

It just works out

(I'm fusing it with Rayquaza to make Eternatus)

[glass patio]

i can imagine some body fusions of it being silly goobers tho

[brisk vessel]

Yea that's also true

Kyurem/Cryogonal that makes the Bittercold from PMD

[glass patio]

a gen 5 mon that wouldn’t really be very hype for me is watchog

unless there’s some epic secret competitive uses of watchog i dont see what it could have

im gonna say it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818491392602800128/875421464344526888/872485029647892501-1.gif

[bitter comet]

[glass patio]

||amogus||

[brisk vessel]

Strangles you

[stuck bane]

Hooo boy, 1s

Watchog: meerkat fusions, only normal type that gets access to illuminate (combo it with scyther for STAB false swipes with double chances of finding wild Pokémon, in addition to watchogs great level up movepool of confuse ray, sand attack, hypnosis, super fang, mean look, etc.), also has an early level up at level 20 (can be obtained directly after Brock on hard mode with level caps), also brings the names Mr. Hog and Mr. Rat, and the only normal type to naturally learn low kick

Amoongus: gets regenerator, adds more grass types, if picked 100%’s all the poison types from unova, and is a team rocket Mon, and is the only poison type that can naturally learn effect spore, also makes for good overworld pokeball encounters, we can also get Mr. Gus from foongus, and it’s the only poison type body with access to astonish naturally, it can also bring fusions of Pokémon being disguised as pokeballs or other interactable items, and it is the only grass type to naturally learn clear smog

Prairie dogs and meerkats are cool, and Mr. Rat and Mr. Hog are reasons enough alone, and Amoongus has fun stuff as well (although it’s completely acceptable to hate the designs these mons have, your right, just don’t put ‘em in the same tier as luvdisc)

[glass patio]

Oh ok so the epic secret competitive uses of watchog did exist

[stuck bane]

…… I wouldn’t say competitive, unless you want to psychologically traumatize your opponent with a Mr.sir esque fusion

[glass patio]

meh lol

ik what false swipe does

[stuck bane]

Illuminate is more of a…what’s it called, pve ability? Like that one ability that makes you less likely to encounter Pokémon

[glass patio]

well then the epic secret uses of watchog

Also we alr got watchog in pif

[glass patio]

and zigzagoon too

[stuck bane]

Yeah we didn’t really need Watchog or Zigzagoon anyways, better route 1 rats to pick up probably

[brisk vessel]

I'm pretty sure Amoongus has good material

People just don't want it cuz Among Us

[glass patio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818491392602800128/875421464344526888/872485029647892501-1.gif

there’s foongus amoongus

[stuck bane]

I think it’s foon/gus and Amoon/Guss if i remember showdown correctly? I can’t think of any funny guss ending names but also it’s 11:30 and I’m tired

[glass patio]

idk they’re all normal types that can be fused with shedinja

sentret best one

[stuck bane]

Wait a minute, LOW KICK ON A NORMAL GHOST TYPE, counter to dark types it’s only weakness!!!

Watchog has a mechanical purpose!!!!

[glass patio]

oh true

[stuck bane]

Also I think it has other stuff that others can’t? Normal ghost wonder guard with mean look and then set up sweep by a Patrat

I don’t think any other rats get mean look anyways

[glass patio]

ig watchog works then

gen 5

that face still weird tho

[stuck bane]

Also the eyes used to be different? In gen 5 I think it was the whole red/black/yellow that was the eye, and then in future gens just the black pupil was treated as the whole eye

[glass patio]

oh idk
i’ve always thought the whole red black yellow thing was part of the eye

[stuck bane]

Actually nope: this gif of Patrat shows it used to be the opposite, and the whole rest of the eyes were just markings: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/kf2re3/a_study_of_patrats_design_why_hes_adorable_and/

So in future gens they made the whole thing the eye, which is a weird one

[brisk vessel]

The eyes look cool but it's the weird puffy cheeks and mouth that ruin it for me

(I get that it's supposed to look like it has stuffed cheeks but it still looks ugly to me)

[stuck bane]

I don’t think it’s a mouth I think it’s a tooth

And yeah the puffed cheeks point is fair

[glass patio]

LMAO

[brisk vessel]

I am aware
I meant that it's basically the same as Patrats so it looks weird with how Watchog is built

[stuck bane]

Ok yeah that’s a fair point, like they really couldn’t make a line in the middle so it doesn’t seem like some weird one tooth creature?

[glass patio]

idk my main thing about watchog was the eyes but this makes it better ngl

[robust niche]

i want solgaleo + lunala in next update

just for ultra-ultra necrozma

[robust niche]

AAAAH

[white meadow]

What did Zigzagoon do to you
Im sure the best hm slave and cutes early normal mammal has nice fusion potential

[clever atlas]

best hm slave
cries in bibarel

[white meadow]

Bi who?

[white meadow]

Naaaah never heard of him

[muted estuary]

Some Bidoof dlc

[noble gale]

Lunala

[glass patio]

LMFAO

[silent acorn]

Good day

Dear enthusiasts of totally new mons we haven't seen before

Its coming soon... Only 20 more days

Fun fact Crabominable has fans
Luvdisc has lovers
Watchogs has peeping toms
And Salazzle has haters

[sharp nebula]

breaking news! crabominable has just eaten its fans!

[stuck bane]

Holy heck Watchog is insane for shedinja strats, I did a little more digging and Watchog is in fact the only normal type to learn mean look by level up, girafarig only gets mean look through breeding, and Noctowl doesn’t carry normal typing over iirc. Not only that, IT GETS BATON PASS BY LEVEL UP TOO. Watchog might be the best shedinja fusion

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-excited-nervous-expectant-gif-14990213

[silent acorn]

Oh it does?

Huh that gives it nice utility. And I mean honestly chipmunk is atleast a bit better looking than Crabominable... Hmmm a 1 for effort

[stuck bane]

Especially if you want Watchog strats naturally, like in a nuzlocke or something, wow Watchog is insane

[silent acorn]

Baton pass is handy for multi stat moves

[stuck bane]

Yeah! Normal ghost has one weakness, as long as you don’t fight anything with a dark type move, mean look and just start setting up, and when you reach max stats, baton pass into a sweeper

[silent acorn]

Hm

I should start putting together points now, gimme a sec.

[stuck bane]

(And it’s also a point for malamar because prankster topsy-turvy counters this too)

[silent acorn]

Malamar to priority for me

It just has everything I could want.

[white meadow]

Salazzle is great for head tho

Head fusion* to be clear

Body is cool too

[glass patio]

i didnt think it would get that far

[glass patio]

it has dark primary typing

and i see what could be done for the sprites since it’s like an upside down squid

make upside down fusions

me when shedinja fusion one weakness

[silk narwhal]

I bet tsareena is too

Head fusions obviously

[clever atlas]

Head fusions get good SpA, body fusions get NYOOM

[white meadow]

I actually talked designe wise

[white meadow]

Maybe
Idk how the leaf flaps (hair) translates

And many fusions will look really cursed cuz the concept isnt the easyest to understand

[low wadi]

do we have bronzong in game? its abilities r rlly good for a steel type

[clever atlas]

No we don't
Check pins to see the newest batch of mons

[stuck bane]

It also gets nasty plot (and focus energy if you have an already speedy Pokémon), and I think this is gonna have untold effects on single competitive, because even if your opponent can switch before you get off a mean look, you’re asking them to risk staying in and letting you get to +6 attack/speed, essentially forcing them to switch, in which case you can switch into a fighting or fairy type and potentially put yourself in a more advantageous spot with a free switch in

[glass patio]

oh and focus sash to take an extra hit

[stuck bane]

Also watchin’ ya is a very funny sounding name

[glass patio]

i actually hated watchog before

[silent acorn]

Watchinja sounds like a watching ninja lol

[clever atlas]

I mean tbf it's WATCH-hog and shed-NINJA so duh

[silent acorn]

Shedninja

Hm

[silent acorn]

I just realized that for me maybe nostalgia is blinding me to Ludicolo as a choice

I am thorn between it being a 1 or 2, it's just I can't quite think how it excels in anything.

yes in retrospect I don't know if I am into his derpy nature.

[stuck bane]

I would personally say ludicolo is under Lilligant, both mechanically do similar things with being own tempo grass types but Lilligant brings petal dance unlike ludicolo, although I wouldn’t say it’s that far under Lilligant, 2 seems fair

[silent acorn]

Hmmmmm

Fair in a way. Though I will say I will also give Shiftry a 2, because despite not being a crazy mon I love the tengu look. And I think it could make cool things

I dont care if it looks like a waifu mon, white hair is always sick

CLAYDOL POTENTIAL

Immediate 2 for me, plus it's a win for archaeology.

I feel like

Despite potential Relicanth is kinda boring. And I am honestly not excited for it right now.

For a future vote sure a 2, for coming one a 1

[stuck bane]

Shiftry as a 2 isn’t bad, especially considering it’s a counterpart of ludicolo

[clever atlas]

Shiftry.......waifumon........
That's a first

[hushed mantle]

Shiftry>>>ludicolo (it provides more dark types)

[upper elbow]

okami

https://tenor.com/view/okami-good-dog-tail-wag-gif-26895650

[eternal turret]

So wait is meloetta actually finally in the game or

[silent acorn]

White hair, Tengu mask, shoes. I think it always had the potential

on the flip side you got this.

and fhis

[sharp nebula]

not currently but it will be

[silent acorn]

now I need someone to help me here. because I am being wayyy more picky than usual. I line walrein, dislike sealeo and not really care about spheal. so I am torn between 1 to 2.

It has fallen quite out of grace with me since I used Dewgong and that one works quite well

I like how walrein looks but like it's line is worser Seel because it has sealeo in between

It's asking for 3 spaces in case those are a factor so I think it's not as good as i thought

[bitter comet]

Malamar head fusions would look so amazing and eldritch

[weak trellis]

yea if I could only chose one mon not currently in it's probably hard between malamar and araquanid even if the latter is kinda just better but more restricted azumarill

[silent acorn]

Malamar is cool looking

[white meadow]

upside down fusions would be cool

[stuck bane]

You make a ton of good points, and spheal is cool, but honestly a 1 is fair, especially considering it has a good chance of getting in via spriter vote anyways, spheal is awesome, not Goodra slots level of awesome, not to mention ITS ANOTHER WATER TYPE

Anyways yes malamar is S tier and one of the top 20 we’ve discussed

[white meadow]

i wonder how inverted voltorb would look like 🔥

[stuck bane]

Probably similar to voltorb/electrode where it’s just a gray/white voltorb

Or just make voltorb upside down for the easiest sprite ever

[white meadow]

at this point idk if the spaces even matter

like imagine we just get hit with 50 more pokemon just like that 👍

[stuck bane]

Yeah, slots don’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but they mattered for the last vote, and if the next is to be like the last, slots do matter. However I’d be interested in seeing what would happen if “slots didn’t matter vote, just choose 20 lines to be added to the game”

Or 10 if we don’t want to overwork frog, considering all of sableye-Lycanroc was 24 lines iirc

[royal drum]

I wonder what the secret surprise announcement will be for the spriter contest

[stuck bane]

whoever wins it gets to see the bottom 10 of the general vote, and choose which of those 10 to add to the game

[hushed mantle]

Illumise and volbeat real?

[pastel juniper]

Sorry if im blind, is there a poll somewhere on new moms?

[inland jewel]

there is no poll for new mons currently

[pastel juniper]

Thats what i thought coo coo

[inland jewel]

we most likely wont get another poll till August or something

[pastel juniper]

That makes sense. This whole thing existing and being executed as well as it is, is absurd

[inland jewel]

i mean not really, this channel exists to talk about new pokemon (which we can add since someone took the time to show frogman a whole new way to do fusions) and since the latest 3 pokemon haven't been added yet this channel can still exist to talk about them

idk about the survivability of this channel if no new pokemon are announced when the 3 are added

[stuck bane]

It’s been nearly 2 months since the “end” of this channel with meloetta, at the very least I think this channel will stick around because, to this day, there are still people asking about new Pokémon, hence the new pin, but also announcing a new Pokémon each month or so gives spriters something new to play with in anticipation for next vote, be it august or some other time, I think it’ll stay around for a while, until frog decides to stop adding Pokémon anyways

[inland jewel]

i mean, he most likely will stop adding pokemon when all pokemon from 3-7 are added

[prime dust]

not most likely stop, he will

[inland jewel]

well i said most likely, since we have until then for somoene to get the code for Gen 8-9

[pastel juniper]

Sorry i dont think i really meant this channel. I more meant that the game and showdown and community as a whole is extremly impressive and that I can't expect another wave of mons so soon or anything like that.

[inland jewel]

i mean this is the culimination of a solo dev and his community since its inception in 2017

[robust niche]

who else wants solgaleo and lunala

just for omega necrozma

[inland jewel]

my two favorite/best box legends of all time, sign me up

[robust niche]

the triple

[inland jewel]

i mean, i prefer Solgaleo and Lunala over Necrozma

[pastel juniper]

I can't think of any other non-profit projects with this scope of organized art creation and integration. Its dope 🙂 pokemon community simply built different

[inland jewel]

i think the closests i've seen for other fangames is Pokemon Wack

[rustic nymph]

Would my regional form of dragonite be good 🙂

[stuck bane]

But hypothetically Lilligant would give better “princess from mario” fusions, right?

[bitter comet]

Claydol will be fun for biblically accurate monsters

[alpine rune]

well there's also tsareena

[dusty arrow]

gen 7 jumpscare

[glossy osprey]

w list

[exotic kayak]

are there any good garbodor sprites?

[dusty arrow]

hisui is next

[stuck bane]

define good, because that might be the difference for what you're talking about, there's obviously probably not many sparkly new shine garbodor sprites if that's what you're asking

[dusty arrow]

and thats all of the places

probably couldve put ursaluna in extra silly but eh

[stuck bane]

Tsareena hits many of the similarites if I'm being honest, but I think the bigger difference is that lilligant would probably make actual mario princess fusions since all have dresses that go to the feet, whereas tsareena seems like it'll be the super crown meme fusions that are deliberately made with shorter dresses, but both still have way more aspects beyond just those and are both great picks

[brisk vessel]

Where is Master Hand

[dusty arrow]

if he was there he would be in extra silly

[brisk vessel]

👌

[dusty arrow]

because 1: its a giant hand lmao
2: the stats.

[dusty arrow]

honestly i think having a queen-plant would be cool

[brisk vessel]

I would not be against tsareena

Trop Kick is cool and Priority Immunity is a rarity

[dusty arrow]

true

[stuck bane]

tsareena has stuff, trop kick, queenly majesty, etc. make it a great pick, but I just prefer lilligant more

[brisk vessel]

Also womab drooling emoji

[dusty arrow]

🗿

[brisk vessel]

Liligant is fine too

[dusty arrow]

do we have any fruit pokemon (other than the potential tsareena)

i didnt know tsareenas evo method was by having it learn stomp

[stuck bane]

tropius obviously counts as bananas... off the top of my head I don't think there's any others but also its almost 11

[empty pendant]

unfortunately we can't get applin

[dusty arrow]

literal depression

[brisk vessel]

The applin line triple fusion dream is dead

[stuck bane]

well they wouldve been vetoed anyways for the same reason as triple hitmon fusion: all the same preevo, how would that work as an egg?

[dusty arrow]

they would.

[brisk vessel]

3 apples

First stage is 3 apples or a mini hydrapple
Evo is Flapdrappletun

whats a dipplin

[mellow torrent]

Hey i have a question.....why kingambit isnt at poke fusions???

dont you think that its a grat pokeon and can have wonderful fusions??

[brisk vessel]

No mons from Gen 8 or 9 can be added

[mellow torrent]

aaaaa....too bad

[exotic herald]

yes make the shiny blue 😉

[hushed mantle]

iron bundle is awesome

[plain gorge]

Gothita line needs to be added

[celest burrow]

it isnt in the game !?!?

[plain gorge]

Who

[celest burrow]

the gothita line 😐

[swift bison]

Nope. T-T

[celest burrow]

😔

[brisk vessel]

Would not be against goth maid mon

I'll probably not want to use the lips though 🥹 (we have enough Big Lip mons)

[stuck bane]

Gothitelle: its counterpart is already in the game, good defense, special attack, and special defense, Gothitelle lore memes, only way to get shadow tag besides wobbuffet (don’t need to rely on a fusion partner for your only attacking moves), only psychic type to naturally get competitive, and the only psychic type to get frisk, also the only psychic type with access to play nice, and the only pure psychic type with access to tickle naturally, and the only pure psychic type with access to double slap, it also brings goth names like gothkid, gothqueen, goth jr., etc.

Gothitelle would be another really good one, and from what I’m looking at the lips on the sprite are not that big at all

[plain gorge]

Finally I found my people

[stuck bane]

Gothitelle is a fav, but I just have this list of reasons for every unova Mon, turns out even things like Watchog can be cracked

[plain gorge]

I will make the sprites for gothitelle

If they add it that is

[stuck bane]

I think they will add it, counterparts have been such a huge factor in determining which mons get in: sableye, the Regis, aurorus, cresselia, etc. I think it’s only a matter of time

[prime dust]

i mean people are making sprites of stuff that doesn't exist yet

so if you want to make it, go for it

[glass patio]

many

[wanton cliff]

Garvodor could be really cool.for sprites

Remoraid garbodor could just be holding a gun

[glass patio]

It’s exactly that except with trubbish, look it up

[stuck bane]

Yeah garbodor is in, see pins

[glass patio]

gun

[stuck bane]

Gun, bish

[glass patio]

[wanton cliff]

Would mr mime garbodor be mr odor

[stuck bane]

Good question, let’s check showdown

[glass patio]

oh my

[glass patio]

there’s mr odor

[glass patio]

mr odor

[wanton cliff]

Garbodor and ursaring could make molten freddy

[stuck bane]

So it is in fact mr odor if you check showdown, honestly he might be up there with Mr cruel and Mr sir

[glass patio]

Wanna know what ditto garbodor is? Or idk if it was trubbish

[stuck bane]

Sure

[glass patio]

:)

no one else has made a sprite for it, still the main

[stuck bane]

Would be funnier if the main idea wasn’t already made by pallosand, but it could be funny for people who don’t know, oh but wait if it’s the main that’s 100x funnier

This is like the only garbodor fusion that’s allowed to have any clean looking surface on it

[glass patio]

it’s an accurate representation of us

[wanton cliff]

Beeheyem is one of my most wanted mons, it's probably in general one of the most underrated lines

[glass patio]

porygon z garbodor is a masterpiece

[glass patio]

that unova alien right?

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

[stuck bane]

You came to the right place:

Beheeyem: great special attack and good special defense, only pure psychic type (head and body) that naturally learns telepathy, also the only pure psychic type that gets analytic, can also bring unique looking alien fusions

[glass patio]

This guy loves gen 5
me too but i dont have copy pastes of each one

and yeah alien fusions

[wanton cliff]

I could think of so many good fusions for that

[glass patio]

give me a copy paste of vanilluxe 🍨

[stuck bane]

They are super useful and even though I’m not repping all the missing of the 156, they’ll probably still be useful in swaying people to vote unova anyways

[glass patio]

also look at this new emoji i love it

popkern

[stuck bane]

Vanilluxe: ice cream fusions, good attack, special attack, and special defense, only pure ice type that gets snow warning (head and body fusions), and the only ice type to get weak armor, also the only pure ice type with access to astonish, and the only pure ice type with access to icicle spear, and the only pure ice type with access to uproar, and is also the only ice type with access to weather ball naturally

[wanton cliff]

Beheyem deyoxys would be so cool

[stuck bane]

Ok that is a cool emoji

[glass patio]

imagine all the ice cream sprites it would be awesome

I think glaceon/miltank had vanilluxe alts of different flavors

[stuck bane]

Unfortunately there are more people voting for stuff like slurpuff/claydol over Vanilluxe/beheeyem, sometimes justifiably, but it’s still a bit sad

[glass patio]

https://if.daena.me/272.241/
Ok that’s a lot of alts
Just look at them

[wanton cliff]

I think the one thing I think claydol could be cool for in terms of fusions is a biblically acurate angel

[glass patio]

Fair, slurpuff also gives funny food fusions and it’s a lot more than just ice cream

[stuck bane]

A lot of people are in agreement with you then, I think there’s already been a ton of concept art for that

[wanton cliff]

But other than that I cant think of much

[stuck bane]

Although all those glaceon Vanilluxe could be good propaganda, it’s not that hard to include topping Alts on all your vanilluxes

[glass patio]

it’s sunkern munchlax btw

[silent acorn]

I am actually voting for vanilluxe too. Beeheeyem is just don't know about

[stuck bane]

Sunlax is just a fun name too

[glass patio]

nuh uh
it’s popkern

[stuck bane]

No I mean if you encounter one in game, like in the wild, but obviously name change it to popkern

[glass patio]

nah i’d win

[silent acorn]

Popcorn
Corn kernel
Sunkern
Popkern

[crimson mason]

Man I just fused typhlosion with steelix and it was amaziiiiiiing......

[stuck bane]

typhlosion and steelix are two of my favorite new pokemon that haven't been in the game since the beginning

[tame flax]

There's another vote happening?

[tame flax]

It's also cakes, dogs, bakers, and cotton candy

[stuck bane]

ima be real, we already have houndoom and we just got rockruff, I don't think people are going to go to slurpuff for specifically dog fusions, but the other points are fair

[tame flax]

Slurpuff is a different kind of dog

I dont remember who drew this since it's been so long, but none of the other dogs could make this

[stuck bane]

I'd argue snubbull could do something similar to that for sure, but I suppose it's the only fully evolved that can do that. either way it still requires drampa so it won't be in the game for a while

anyways apparently smeargle is a dog too:

wait holy crap this artist is amazing: https://www.deviantart.com/shawarmachine/art/Shiny-Karrablast-Plankton-SpongeBob-555113290

[hushed mantle]

Bro has beef with mr kinglers

[silent acorn]

Oh I love that Lilligant I didn't realize we could do Paper Princes Peach

What could make it? Porygon?

[stuck bane]

As I was saying, Tsareena probably makes the better super crown memes, but Lilligant makes the best actual Mario princess fusions, porygon could work, but kartana would definitely make it

[stuck bane]

“Give me the shelmet formula, krabs! You won’t stand a chance when I go into Maximum Escavalier!”

[silent acorn]

Nyo

Lilligant makes best Crown memes
She so cute. Awww look at her

look at all these. adorable

of course both are excellent. and if we get them both we get this

The funny thing is that Tsareena being body and Lilligant head means their total stats will skyrocket

this one is weaker

this happens when the stat distribution is perfect

[stuck bane]

I still don't think it'll be that good, 510 still only matches tsareena, and its below the average starter, mixed usually won't cut it but maybe there's something interesting you can do there

[silent acorn]

Oh actually this one isn't calculating the stats

Still I think they could work. You can min max some of it

[stuck bane]

no see I'm having real difficulty trying to think of something, it's too slow for queenly majesty to matter, and tsareena doesn't bring any confusion based moves I can see to help take advantage of own tempo

and you wouldnt use it over regular tsareena anyways in doubles since its defenses and hp are all lower

its a great fusion design, for sure, but I just don't think it has that much to mechanically offer with eachother

[silent acorn]

Hmmm... True

Ah man it's because their abilities and moves are very different this is why they are perfectly good

[stuck bane]

honestly, the best thing to do with lilligant mechanically is just slap a really high special attacker to take even more advantage of own tempo and petal dance, thrash isnt any good, and outrage is more physical which lilligant isnt really built towards

honestly I don't hate this one: hisuian electrode is a pretty good typing, petal dance is the obvious idea of this build, volt switch in case things get dicey, quiver dance to up speed and special attack, or if you think you're good on speed pick tail glow for near guaranteed OHKOs

[silent acorn]

Geez look at that SPATK

[glass patio]

my fav typing hisuian electrode
ok i get it electric grass but lmao

[sullen elbow]

I prefer rotom-mow type personally

[glass patio]

Hisuian electrode type is objectively better

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[glass patio]

i dont hate meloetta cuz music fusions and shedinja fusion with one weakness but I preferred xurkitree ngl funny tree

[glass patio]

rng

[zinc prairie]

After playing enough Gen 7 IF OU Tsareena is a better addition than Lilligang

There isn’t a single mon that stops priority and you’ll be running into Dragonite combos/Scizor combos/anything else

[white meadow]

tapu lele:

(ik it's the terrain but still)

[zinc prairie]

they banned Tapu Lele in the Gen 9 IF format

[sullen elbow]

indeedeee it is then

[stuck bane]

Yeah, bruxish seems like the better one for dazzling since water/psychic tend to be better than grass, and you can up bruxish’s average stats with fusion and make it more defensive

[inland jewel]

Stops prankster mons that might want to shut it down too

[stuck bane]

Having a good defensive typing tends to outweigh any potentially lower stats, and vice versa, high stats can’t save you if you have a poor defensive typing

[zinc prairie]

Pure Grass is better defensively than Water/Psychic, Water/Psychic is kind of average of a typing tbh it’s just been stuck on mons with top tier attributes like the Bros and Starmie

[stuck bane]

We’re still talking about Pokémon infinite fusion right? You said Tsareena was a better inclusion than Lilligant because of queenly majesty, when stuff like water/ground and normal/psychic are way better defensively than pure grass. Sure, in non-IF, Tsareena is probably better, but not in IF when any Pokémon can be fused with any other Pokémon

[zinc prairie]

Bruh do you always have to have a comeback….

All I compared was the two typing in the discussion and you decided to bring in comparisons, yes we get Water/Ground has one weakness

[white meadow]

i mean that's quite the point of a discussion

[zinc prairie]

That’s just having a reason to have the one up on someone

[stuck bane]

It was just a question, I wasn’t trying to one up anything, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page, because it seemed like we weren’t

So Tsareena does have potential, and queenly majesty can open up some interesting typings like fire/grass or grass/steel, but I don’t think it’ll have as big of an impact as bruxish with its typings, anyways ima go play pathfinder feel free to continue discussing

[zinc prairie]

I’m just focused on what could be cool to have on the ladder, there’s plenty of great typing mons already that are dumb af lmao

[quick coyote]

what version of pokemon essentials does infinite fusion use?

[prime dust]

18

to get gen 8+ we need v21 or higher

[silent acorn]

Lilligant is a little plant lady that can whoop ass by dancing in both forms

[zinc prairie]

Liligant-Hisui was probably my favorite guardian fight

[finite thistle]

I think I might like Arcanine more after my second playthrough, but Liligant is still real fun

[weak trellis]

late-ish but psychic in general is a surpisingly bad defensive type now that it has a 2/3 (starting at either 3/1 or 3/0 depending on how much you viewed bug types as existing in gen 1) profile, one of its resistances being to itself

[brisk vessel]

Where quiver dance

[zinc prairie]

Lilligant learns it naturally

[brisk vessel]

I know
I'm asking where is quiver dance in the moveset

[zinc prairie]

uhhhh he put Quiver Dance AND Tail Glow, are you questioning his teambuilding acumen

[stuck bane]

Nah I’m trash at team building, I just thought both quiver dance and tail glow are good as they get the build running faster, probably drop one of those out for some other move

[silent acorn]

No they are asking in which part of the level up it gets it

[zinc prairie]

early af

I rmr having it late 20's

[silent acorn]

My thing with Lilligant is that even if you say is like another Bellossom the thing I prefer with it it's the fact that you can just have Petilil and just give it a Sunstone. The thing Bellossom is that IT is that ONE mon where it's other evolution is just better. With lilligant you just get it trouble free

Like earlier than you'd get gloom probably

Also Lilligant just looks good.

[glass patio]

i’m stealing that

[zinc prairie]

I think even the custom moves Bellossom got in PIF weren't enough

Revelation Dance/Strength Sap (Vileplume has it as well)/Floral Healing

[silent acorn]

Strenght sap is good on many things.
But my issue with Bellossom is that no matter what anybody said it was always gonna be in. But it always felt tacked on the Oddish line

What lilligant is basically an amalgam of every secondary spatk plant type before it. Except with a bit more optimization and no poison type.

Granted it has less overall BST but that's because it's a 2 stage but it's 480 still does quite a lot for being such a small line. It has the best traits of Roserade with a bit of bulkiness from Vileplume

And as some have stated it can spam petal dance without a single issue

As a matter of fact if its partner has more physical prowess it can also do moves like outrage and Thrash

Also chlorophyll just does a lot on it with its 90 base speed which even Roserade can't top since it doesn't have chlorophyll

aggron is amazing for special attackers

With this defense I'd imagine giga drain would be a pain to deal with

Now this can go one of two ways.
You can give it chlorophyll to double the 60 base speed to 90. Or you can use own tempo to go ham on the petal dance

[frail lynx]

this mon is good ?

[silent acorn]

Probly you may want to go to #fusions

[brisk vessel]

If only he gave Steel as the body

[brisk vessel]

Yea you'd be better of with just quiver I feel
Bro is NOT bulky enough to go both quiver and tail glow

[weak trellis]

it's a blissey head so probably if you ignore the quad fighting weakness

blissey in general is probably one of the best non-legendary head slots for fusions lol

[hushed mantle]

I think it'd rather use qd/giga drain/thunderbolt/dazzling gleam

And beast boost as the ability

[stuck bane]

Yeah, but this build was an experiment to try and make petal dance work, so I opted for that and own tempo and tried to make it work around those

[white meadow]

Didnt he?
The head was fighting as head

[brisk vessel]

??? Aggron isnt fighting type

[white meadow]

Oooh I thought you pinged the pic above yours sorry

[brisk vessel]

🥹

[glossy jewel]

aggron gets quiver dance in PIF

[tame flax]

Can confirm, volcagron is busted

Bug rock is a seriously underrated type

[silent acorn]

Well yeah I knew that. But you know its not quite the same stall as the other one. But Lilligant does get access to Quiver dance alongside having decent speed to combine with Aggron

[silent acorn]

Oh they update the staff presentations

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/perfectly-balanced-skuntank-skunk-pokemon-pokemon-trainer-gif-9308663408343482016

Is the game perfectly balanced without Skuntank? It makes it perfectly balanced, that's for sure.

[stuck bane]

Aaaand that’s the straw that broke the camels back, skuntank is getting a 0 I don’t care if it brings Eternatus level stats with wonder guard, none of the points in its favor matter anymore

[wanton cliff]

I'm sorry WHAT

[stuck bane]

He’s been spamming the chat with skuntank without actually giving any reasons

[wanton cliff]

Oh

[stuck bane]

You know, like a discussion

[wanton cliff]

Minor >

[thick ginkgo]

Give me eevees of every type nintendo. pls.

[stuck bane]

Minior would be an S tier one, and it’s super popular

[wanton cliff]

It's also adorable

[viral falcon]

A ghost eveelution would be so neat! Though idk how they'd make one of those, I know in recent years they've dropped the rocks from glaceon and leafeon just giving them stone evos instead... But man a spooky ghost eveelution would just be neat.

[hushed mantle]

It evolves by hitting eevee with a brick

[viral falcon]

Ohhh nooo 😭 poor Eevee...
Even worse if it's just pulling a cubone and wearing it's own skull in it's ghost form. That'd be really spooky.

[weak trellis]

I was thinkin somethin a bit more wispy but that could work

[sonic roost]

https://tenor.com/view/eevee-wontevolve-gif-8066472

[white meadow]

Can we have Chingling

[tame flax]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-fairy-type-animations-animated-cartoon-gif-10592379

[marsh yew]

Bellossom got the Jynx treatment, that's why it feels kinda out of place (but, the Oddish-colored body would be quite racist)

At least it was a thing, unlike the side-evo Weepinbell was supposed to get; all that line got was a lousy tower for some reason

[hushed mantle]

Beta gen 2 are awesome

I wish the spheal tiger was real

[weak trellis]

I'd happily take beta leafeon as a convergent/regional to normal leafy (both are good in their own ways)

[onyx berry]

Saameee

[marsh yew]

I mean, some of the preevolutions were excessive; can get Magby or Elekid; Pichu, Cleffa and Igglybuff were excessive, but, PARAS? Seriously?

[weak trellis]

especially when the existing babies aren't that tolerated as it is

[solid quail]

is there exp share?

[elder gorge]

yes

[hasty glacier]

Buzzswole best mon

[viral falcon]

Buzzswole is such a funny pokémon. I love ultrabeasts as a way to just let the designers flex their creativity. Same with the paradox pokemon. I like when they get to break the rules of pokémon designs.

[boreal stone]

I wish some of the other x and y pokemon were in the game

[junior notch]

Such as? I mean we already the fossils, trevenant, aegislash and a couple others iirc, I mean only other one I would want is slurpuff

[boreal stone]

X and y legendaries, Mega pokemon, Diancie etc mega sprites not actual mega

[tame roost]

There ares mega in the game already

[boreal stone]

Actual mega sir just mega sprites

[junior notch]

As alts, in game officially they never being added, diancie and legends I kinda get

[silent acorn]

You have to kill it to evolve it.

[rancid nymph]

Honestly, I think It's a little weird that all the box art legends aren't in the game yet

[viral falcon]

Let eevee faint a certain amount of times, or it's a low friendship vs high friendship as like the opposite of Sylveon...xD

[silent acorn]

Voting does that.

Also they want to focus on common not legendary mons

[dusty arrow]

dusk stone would be good for ghost type, right?

since some ghost types evolve from a dusk stone, such as chandelure and aegislash

[viral falcon]

true, that could be a good one as well. Maybe the frustration version could be Dragon or something? Cause a lot of dragon pokemon seem to have a rage/determination thing going on.

[ancient coyote]

I just want another electric rodent
Morpeko but also pachirisu ... Emolga or dedenne

[stuck bane]

Yeah, despite us getting so many legendaries, we really should have expected less: Regis got in from hoenn bias and counterparts, necrozma got in because dragon type bias, meloetta only got in from the raffle, and cresselia defied all odds and got in spite of all the other legendaries from counterparts and a lot of staff support, we really were only supposed to get the Regis and necrozma, in future votes I wouldn’t get hopes up about getting more than 2 legendaries, especially if future votes come with less than 20 lines in total

Anyways Emolga’s probably best pikaclone, flying type with motor drive opens up a lot of potential

[viral falcon]

I'd honestly just like Relicanth to show up, as they're my favorite pokemon ^^

[ancient coyote]

I've been looking at fusions with the electric/dark typing... none of them hit the spot like morpeko did

[stuck bane]

Wdym? Design? Stats?

[ancient coyote]

Both kinda
Because I feel a little bummed when I see a fusion is weaker stat wise than the non fused counterparts, and I lean towards Pokemons that are cute and cool at the same time

[stuck bane]

Idk if I’d use the word cool but art is subjective

[white meadow]

In what world did Necrozma get in for Dragon bias?
We thought most of the time that there never be form changes

Like it has quiet some stuff to offer + NGS existed

[stuck bane]

Well, even if UN wasn’t in the game, people absolutely were still gonna make fusions of UN considering necrozma is the head piece

[white meadow]

Yeah but UN doesnt even look much like a deagon

[stuck bane]

Also dragon type and ghost type bias are real for the community at least we got like 4 dragons and majority of most completed types are dragon and ghost by a long shot

I think UN looks like a dragon

[ancient coyote]

I'm thinking of pokemon appeals in terms of competition types, I played a lot of gen 3 ><

[stuck bane]

Definable head, wings, tail, legs, yeah it’s not a carbon copy of charizard but it’s obviously still a dragon

[stuck bane]

Like types that normally don’t go together? Like dark being physical and electric being special iirc? (I started in HGSS so I never learned that Gen 3 stuff)

[viral falcon]

yeah gen3 was weird the pre-special/physical split were just bizarre.

[ancient coyote]

This thing

[stuck bane]

Wait no dark was special wasn’t it, cause wasn’t that one of the things that made sneasel good? (After coming to Gen 4+)

[viral falcon]

yeah, bite and crunch were both considered special.

dark was all special, ghost was all physical.

it was weird.

[viral falcon]

oh I looved poke contests, I wish they'd do another gen with something like the contest.

[ancient coyote]

That's what I meant about cool/cute pokemon because I still think about them that way

[stuck bane]

I see, I don’t exactly know how contests cool or cute calculations work, but I’ll take you on your word that morpeko falls into those categories then

[brisk vessel]

I want whatever you're smoking rn

[white meadow]

Ik it has dragon features but looking at sprites before release they wanted that for the yellow light colors

[glass patio]

dead chat xd

there is sadly no new pokemon to discuss about

~~courage pls send every gen 5 copy paste you have ~~

[stuck bane]

It’s still a WIP since I’ve decided to go through every single move in the attackdex to find unique ones, but I’ve been caught up with life atm, but I tried sending v2 to Monrys and it was like 10 separate messages or something. So for now, probably not a good idea to clog up the chat like that, but if this channel dies I’ll send it somewhere else and you’ll know where to find it

But just to be clear, when I’m done I’ll send the full thing, but it’ll probably be split into parts with other people sending messages

[silent acorn]

I'll probably put them together

Like just one big little doc. So people can reference what's unique about each mon.

If anyone else wants to contribute uniqueness of their mon they can also do that.

[glass patio]

i dont have enough brain to do a minior copy paste myself

[glass patio]

hey guys, and did you know that in terms of pokemon for pif, minior would be one of the best additions to the game?

idfk

lmao

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-blitzo-loona-no-no-means-no-gif-17216739132732085955

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mocking-chicken-trending-meme-gif-13664384

Hey guys did you know that if a Luvdisc follows you when you have no partner with you, that means It knows?

[empty pendant]

Man I just want Ribombee and Lurantis.

[fleet quail]

Unpopular opinion, but I want Skitty and Delcatty. Behold these cute fusions I made!

[weak trellis]

could have those as alts for persian until then since I already know of two other persian fusions with delcatty alts (mismagius/persian and persian/buneary)

[fleet quail]

I mean, I could tweak the fusions to be a Azurill Meowth line fusion. It'd be a fun fusion to make even if it's already been done.

[silent acorn]

To be honest

I severely underestimated Delcatty. It's ability has a huge drawback, so I wonder how you fix it.

[stuck bane]

The obvious answer is also give it the benefits of scrappy, but that might be a bit too much. Even if it didn’t get that, normalize can be fun with things like hyper beam, giga impact, porygon-z and Bouffalant, etc

But I still wouldn’t say Delcatty is a top tier pick though, still could be fun to have, but not a priority

[silent acorn]

Yeah I'd say we can save it for later

[bitter comet]

I kind of want the vanillite line just for ice cream fusions tbh

[stuck bane]

It unfortunately loses to Slurpuff as it grants a wider scope of dessert fusions, but vanillite for ice cream specifically can definitely carve out a niche different enough from Slurpuff

[white meadow]

fuse it with a ghost that knows skill swap 🔥

[fleet quail]

Would Mimikyu/Vanillite just be a painted traffic cone lol

[silent acorn]

Not enough. It has snow warning which is better than just making ice cones. Also it's nytrogen I think anything you fuse it with becomes literal snow

[bitter comet]

True, true

What are the benefits of adding Camerupt if any?

[stuck bane]

Yeah it’s got some good unique abilities as well:

Vanilluxe: ice cream fusions, good attack, special attack, and special defense, only pure ice type that gets snow warning (head and body fusions), and the only ice type to get weak armor, also the only pure ice type with access to astonish, and the only pure ice type with access to icicle spear, and the only pure ice type with access to uproar, and is also the only ice type with access to weather ball naturally

[stuck bane]

It’s a counterpart to sharpedo, I don’t think we have a camel Mon yet, volcano designs, etc. not a top tier but not a bad one either, it’s hard carried by being counterparts with sharpedo though

[bitter comet]

I’m going to be looking at Pokémon I’ve forgotten about and then I will ask their benefits in the game here

[stuck bane]

Ask away, but I can’t guarantee I’ll have reasons for anything outside of unova

[inner siren]

Solid rock is a fairly rare ability as well, that would be interesting to make fusions with.

Iirc there aren't really any other mons with the ability already in game?

[white meadow]

rhyperior exists ig

[bitter comet]

Benefits, if any to adding Heliolisk?

[stuck bane]

At a glance, only fire type with anger point, only fire type with solid rock, magma armor could be interesting as the only other one who gets it is magcargo, and ground type immune to freeze has niche, and it has an added benefit of making eggs faster to hatch too

Also yes the only Mon currently in game with solid rock is rhyperior

[stuck bane]

I think heliolisk gets a unique move/ability? Can’t look up right now brb

[inner siren]

Solar power

[white meadow]

sunflora and charizard has it

[inner siren]

And iirc it used to have parabolic charge as a signature move?

[inner siren]

Only electric or normal type to have it though.

[white meadow]

meh dry skin is better for it anyway

[finite thistle]

Heliolisk also gets Electrify, which turns the next move into an electric move. Kind of decent if it had Lightning Rod

[inland jewel]

doesnt that only apply to normal moves?

[weak trellis]

late but on the subject of delcatty, six words:

normalize skill swap plus ghost type, which is probably on shedinja levels of cheese outside of having to swap out between each use

[weak trellis]

there's one that applies to normal moves and one that affects all moves let me see

electrify affects all moves but is on the helios (and boltund which can't be in IF), while Ion deluge only affects normal moves but has priority. I believe chinchou/lanturn, ampharos, and electrivire all get it in IF atm

[storm zodiac]

I want skitty because it cute

[viral falcon]

I want Relicanth cause I think there's a lot of fun fusions with the look of the mask, especially in relation to the duskull line, and they're my favorite pokemon, and I'm very lonely in the Relicanth camp. I've thought a lot about different fusions for them...and drawn a bit of fanart of Relicanth....

[native cypress]

just add gojo

[inland jewel]

Relicanth is super fun

as a body it has good atk/def at 90/130

as a head his 100 hp and 65 spdef is alright

also, getting him away from double weakness to grass is good.

[stuck bane]

Great defense with good hp and attack, relicanth could be fun, but I’m not super stoked about adding more rock types after we got so many, and even more so water types, and on top of that all of the abilities it does bring it directly has to compete with others of the same or similar typing. Relicanth is good, but nowhere near the top of our priorities for both rock and water types

[inland jewel]

To be fair people haven’t voted for what we needed

They voted for what they wanted, if we voted for what we needed we’d have more fairy, fighting and ice types

Dark types too, since the only dark and fighting types that got added were via frogman or mod choice

[stuck bane]

Meloetta got in too, but I see what you mean

[inland jewel]

Though the one fighting type the community did vote to put in was cut because they overdid it on the dragon types 😭

[stuck bane]

Then again, I don’t think Relicanth is hitting the popularity of dragons like kommo-o, but that does remind me, I looked through the 2020 Pokémon Google vote or whatever, and it turns out it was like 40% something accurate, so if we’re judging popularity, maybe that could give us an idea of what might make the top 20 of next general vote (besides starters of course)

[inland jewel]

Relicanth probably has a good chance

[glossy osprey]

based on this what are the options?

[stuck bane]

Pokemon of the year 2020 prediction accuracy

Hoenn: 3/4
altaria (made it), sableye (made it), ludicolo (top 4 of the spriter vote), mightyena

Sinnoh: 2/4
shaymin (raffle), Staraptor, froslass (made it), Pachirisu

Unova: 3/9
starters (top 4 of original vote), victini, scolipede (made it), meloetta (made it), excadrill, Lilligant, cinccino, Emolga, keldeo

Kalos: 7/18
starters (top 2 of original vote), noivern (made it), Goodra (made it), dedenne, Xerneas/yveltal, tyrantrum (made it), Hawlucha (made it), meowstic, Zygarde, diancie, hoopa, Aurorus (made it), Pangoro, Dragalge, gourgeist, trevenant (made it), malamar, heliolisk

Alola: 8/20 accuracy
starters (top 3 of original vote), Lycanroc (made it), Zeraora, Golisopod (top 2 of spriter vote), bewear (made it), cosmog, Buzzwole, silvally, vikavolt, salazzle, kommo-o (too many dragons), marshadow, Tsareena, lurantis (top 3 of spriter vote), togedemaru, toxapex (made it), tapus, Mudsdale, Necrozma (made it), ribombee

Total: 23/55, 41% accuracy

[finite needle]

Who was number 1 on the original vote?

[stuck bane]

The general poll? I’m p sure it was noivern

[grim sierra]

ADD SPHEAL

[stuck bane]

Made the top 5 of the spriter vote iirc, and it’s popular, so it has a shot

Skimmed through it a bit myself, my guess is next general vote top 20 will look something along the lines of this (if we’re going strictly off of popularity, with others being added like staff picks and stuff)

Vikavolt
Ludicolo
Dedenne
Lurantis
Staraptor
Kommo-o
Golisopod
Zeraora
Victini
Shaymin

[white meadow]

How is Zeraora in there and not Gogoat or Torkoal

Who was a Zeraora fan or even Dedenne?

[stuck bane]

Because it’s based on the 2020 Pokémon vote, Zeraora got like 30k and dedenne got like 20k, but also I was shocked to see things like spheal like not being top 30 of hoenn, 41% isn’t that accurate

[weak trellis]

dedenne gets a lot of JP points for being the pikachu clone of gen 6 (and thus got a lot of exposure in the anime) but they aren't gameplay points for sure

[stuck bane]

Or, kind of, when dealing with 300+ Pokémon in a vote 41% accuracy for narrowing down options is actually really good

[weak trellis]

plus japan likes their Cute Orbmons like with rowlet one gen later

[stuck bane]

But also I wouldn’t be super hype about Zeraora or dedenne either, and am glad they didn’t take up slots this time around

[glossy osprey]

y know who else is a cute orbmon

[marble meadow]

i will lurking and check the anouncement from time to time

[crude garden]

Time to make more gooms

[silent acorn]

Excuse the question but what announcement

[silent acorn]

Actually sharpedo was voted

[full canopy]

they should add more of the starters to the game

[silent acorn]

📌

[silent acorn]

My problem with it is essentially that. We got lots of fish bodies now

[plush inlet]

I would vote for Victini any day of the week.

[silent acorn]

Now I will say. Victini easy 3 out of 3 the potential of that mon is crazy

Victini and Diancie get my 3 amongst all mythicals

[marble meadow]

waiting for the next Sprite pack

[stuck bane]

next sprite packs tend to come beginning of the month, so february should be the december pack iirc since its 2 months behind

[zinc prairie]

I don't need to play against another V-Create user

[inland jewel]

im of the mind that we don't really need mythicals or legendaries atm,

like give us all the regular mons first imo

[silent acorn]

I mean it be a waste for the Diancie Sprites. Diancie makes awesome fusions it's scientifically proven

[obsidian berry]

A food mon could be cool

Like swirlix or something

[silent acorn]

We already got magikarp tho

[inland jewel]

slowpokes in the game

[obsidian berry]

I was thinking like
Not fish

[silent acorn]

Slowpoke isn't a fish though

We also got Milk

[obsidian berry]

I wad thinking like
Sweet food

[silent acorn]

Mangosteen then.

[obsidian berry]

?

[silent acorn]

Fruit mon confirmed. Bring in Tsareena

[white meadow]

Garbodor

[silent acorn]

Garbplume

[white meadow]

yeee

the alt only happend cuz Rick said the lid makes no sense (I put the lid like viles Flower) and so I made a no lid Variant and it looked so Dumb I loved him

[fallen loom]

what even is the fusion in the server icon?

I would say Ferrothorn + Tyrantrum, but Tyrantrum isn't Electric

[white meadow]

it is tho

Its from the Secret Santa
I lost in the finals and became 8th place

[fallen loom]

then why is there electricity coming off of it?

can either Pokémon even learn any Electric moves?

[white meadow]

He won by far
He did the Electricity to do something diffrent cuz there already were Ferrotrums and he also told us that Ferro can learn electric moves

[fallen loom]

the electrical tail looks more like it's from Zekrom

[obsidian wedge]

Hey guys

I want to include Pachirisu in the game

It's one of the cutest Pokemon ever, but often Very forgettable

[willow anchor]

huh

[stuck bane]

meme update list we worked on

[willow anchor]

oh nvm i see, i was scrolling through mentions and didn't understand the context, (oops didn't mean to reply to that)

[stuck bane]

all good dw

[junior notch]

Nihilego would 100% gaslight people

[white meadow]

Why is Manaphy there but not Gogoat

[glossy osprey]

Oh shit they're dropping a new feature

I can't wait for my guzzlord hazmat suit

[silent acorn]

My boy sawsbuck is on Gaslight because it will lie about the season to your face

[stuck bane]

You think Manaphy and phione don’t try to gaslight people into thinking they’re the same Pokémon? Phione and Manaphy absolutely gaslight

[stuck bane]

Ye that’s what we were thinking “my fur has always been brown!”

Deerling line absolutely gaslights too

[hushed mantle]

doesn't nihilego like control the minds of people?

[sand mica]

Can I have Skuntank in the game yet?

[tall bluff]

Hey Frog should add Urshifu and PvP so I can hate my life in this game too not just regular pogemon meta

[stuck bane]

Pins

[tall bluff]

I'm aware, I just needed a dig at that stupid mon

[stuck bane]

Oh ok, then you’re safe here brother, no triple crit protect bypassing bear is gonna get you here ||unless a spriter makes one||

[willow anchor]

i can confirm that i do (/j)

[brisk vessel]

Where tf is Archeops

[proud lion]

I wonder if Furfrou will be a part of the customization update?

https://tenor.com/view/kartana-furfrou-pokemon-sun-moon-gif-19000346

[stuck bane]

I wouldn’t get my hopes up, but fur coat and Furfrou’s myriad of coats as fusion potential would be very welcome additions

[stuck bane]

Archeops doesn’t really fit the term girlboss, and is prehistoric so it doesn’t even know what the terms gaslighting or gatekeeping are. Awesome Mon, doesn’t fit the gaslight/gatekeep/girlboss updates

Also guys phione and the lake trio are on this list don’t take it seriously, it’s a meme

[brisk vessel]

Idk man if relicanth can be in gatekeep I feel like Archeops can too

[stuck bane]

Relicanth is in gatekeep because it gatekeeps you from accessing the Regis unless it’s in your party, it gatekeeps for sure

[brisk vessel]

Archeops gatekeeps you from OU by having a terrible ability

[stuck bane]

Yeah, but a bunch of other Pokémon have that issue to, although I would have to say gatekeep has the most mons with the weakest reasoning, with stuff like avalugg and diggersby being there because “eh, they seem like they would gatekeep”

Well hold on, archeops are intelligent, not enough reason to be in gatekeep but they might have stuff

But just cornering prey doesn’t seem like a good enough reason for gatekeeping

However, archeops might take gaslight: gaslights all researchers into thinking it’s a good flier, and gaslights prey into thinking they’re aerial attackers when they usually attack from the ground. The only other issue is that gaslight has a ton of strong contenders besides musharna for its dark smoke gaslighting you and turning your nightmares to reality, and Torkoal for a gas-lighted-smoke joke. Should I replace Torkoal or musharna? Or leave it be?

[quaint sapphire]

When is Greninja going to be added..

[zinc prairie]

when the riddle on your bio is solved

[quaint sapphire]

wow

[stuck bane]

In all seriousness, it technically made the top 2 of the general vote, but was vetoed with other starters to get more diverse mons, see pins, but they MIGHT be added later since they’re super popular

[quaint sapphire]

WOW.

[zinc prairie]

based on how long the rounds go maybe a year minimum

[quaint sapphire]

My heart is fr broken 💔

[vast cypress]

What happened to my debug menu

It's gone

[fallen loom]

This is why I said that Furfrou body fusions will be amazing

[frail lynx]

i like this fusion :))))

[glass patio]

Pog new pokemon

nah srly this is a great feature

[unkempt stone]

I hope someday Claydol and Vanilluxe can make it in

[plucky bobcat]

For me, I want Vikavolt, Kommo-O, Jellicent and Florges. Bronzong and Drapion could be fun though.

[meager glacier]

greninja and yveltal

i just want to fuse blaziken and greninja 😂

[bitter comet]

Malamar, golisopod and gogoat are at the top of my list of wants right now

[junior notch]

Golisopod is my fav mon, but ngl chingling amd slurpuff would be so peak to see

[brisk vessel]

Idk about Chingling mate
But yea Slurpuff could be cool based on the stuff I've seen

A dedicated dessert Mon would be neat

[white meadow]

Chingling is great tho

[brisk vessel]

I can't really think of anything besides chimes

Slurpuff on the other hand seems to have a lot of stuff going for it

[white meadow]

I saw some amazing Chingling and Chimecho fusions yet

[brisk vessel]

Tbh besides the Rayquaza one I don't really vibe with any of these (compared to the Slurpuff ones at least)

The Zard scarf is neat at least I'll give it that

[white meadow]

Yeah most of them wasnt continued cuz they weren in pif

[white meadow]

Yeah but on slurpuffs side its mainly cuz good spriters already made some sprites for them

[brisk vessel]

Yea ik I meant like concept wise

[white meadow]

Also Chingling can be funny cuz did you see one scream?

[silent acorn]

WOOOOOOOOO CHARACTER CUSTO YEEEEEEAH
Its not a new mon announcement but hey it's dope

[silent acorn]

Chingling is more usable in concept than Luvdisc or even Marshadow for that matter

Seriously marshadow is like... A wispy shadow from Mars? That's all it was right?

I think little chimes and bells are interesting for designs

I am not gonna be like "Oh you should totally vote 3 on chimecho" but like it does deserve a one for not being crappy

Now marshadow. That one I really can't get behind no matter how I look a it

Like if we want absurb stats we might as well just get UBs

[open cobalt]

Are excadrill and toxicroak getting added?

[white meadow]

for now, no

[brisk vessel]

Tbf i dont like those options either

I was comparing it to Slurpuff

[silent acorn]

You want them?

[open cobalt]

Yeah definitely

Marshadoe would be cool too

Marshadow*

[prime dust]

anything from gen 3-7 not yet in the game might get added

as to when, that we can't say for sure, as it is up to Frogman [needs a break tbh, just added in over 40 mons to the game, with a few more yet to be added in]

[silent acorn]

Now I am not santa but I am a saint, vote for Toxicroak and Excadrill and you'll increase the chances

I should make a ping list

[open cobalt]

How do i vote?

[silent acorn]

In maybe 5 to 7 months they'll may open up a poll or whatever way they'll be deciding. If you want since I lurk here often I can save your thing to ping you. Atleast you'll support the mons you want

[open cobalt]

Yeah that would be good 👍🏼

[silent acorn]

Alright I save it. Just remember to support our mole and froggo

[silent acorn]

Chimecho is quite flavor colored honestly it looks like a cake a bit

I am still stuck with Delcatty for a 1 or 2

[obtuse silo]

what are you voting on?

[silent acorn]

Options for the next poll for who knows when. I am anticipating myself

[obtuse silo]

i see

[silent acorn]

Making a doc with my choices for later. So I just know what's fair with due time rather than rushed

So for instance I have pelipper at a 1. Even though I don't love it mostly because of its good traits

1 point for mon does help them improve their chance

Now I don't like pelipper because well it's pretty ugly. But I think it has nice utility for gameplay

I am going through my Gen 3 tier list to filter them out.

Huh I don't know why spinda is a 0 when it's the infinity one

Delcatty has me thinking.
I like the design, I think it's fine. But the ability does make it get nerfed agaisnt steel and ghost. Also it's stats aren't exactly beautiful. Normalize it's what makes it special but it's a double edge thing.

The good thing is that with something with nice offensive stats the boost from normalize makes it hit hard

[white meadow]

unless the opponent is rock, ghost or steel

[silent acorn]

I also heard there is the utility of making status attacks be normal type so thunderwave affects ground types

But I am thorn, what's fair for it? Like a 1 or a 2?

[prime dust]

you can pretty much discount abilities unless the mon brings in something new

[stuck bane]

Wasn’t the normalize status thing only in early gens?

[silent acorn]

No idea

[silent acorn]

Hm i see that it says that you can get skill swap to get it to something. Technically you could fuse Delcatty with a ghost type and use skill swap with a different mon to make that mon just a sitting duck

Confined hoopa is a good csndidate

Diancie and carbink are other good options

With a TM gengar is another good one, Mismagius, sableye, drifblim, bronzong, dusknoir, cofagrigus, trevenant, gourgeist, Palossand. Holy moly that's a lot of options

[white meadow]

Where are the cool Horn Leech Ungulates?

Sawsgoat and Gobuck

[silent acorn]

Oh that's only gen 3 for now.

[silent acorn]

Oh you did amazing.. Though I feel like they lack some of the cool features they get with the seasons. Like less foliage for summer, more coat for winter

Ok so delcatty plus a ghost with Skill Swap is broken

[stuck bane]

Yeah ngl those are just gogoat recolorings, not any real Sawsbuck elements

[silent acorn]

It's like the ultimate disabler

I am leaning for maybe a 2 given that you can you can also use skill swap with other mons and its still good

[stuck bane]

Yeah the only issue besides that would be speed, confined hoopa is the only ghost type to get skill swap naturally, but other things like misdreavus and Dusknoir get it too, idk if there’s a tutor for skill swap in PIF tho

Confined hoopa has 70 speed, mismagiua has 105 speed, and Dusknoir will never be considered for those strats, so let’s try a mismagius build for it

[silent acorn]

Would be good

[stuck bane]

I just don’t think it’s all it’s hyped up to be, things like watchinja only need to get off a mean look, meanwhile Delcatty/mismagius needs to get off a skill swap and a mean look in order to set up, else the opponent would just switch, I think it should be a 1. (Also mismagius/Delcatty makes miss catty for some reason even though mismagius doesn’t have that prefix?)

[white meadow]

Wasnt mine I googled them

[white meadow]

Tell that the guy who made them

[stuck bane]

Then why are you using them?

[white meadow]

Since i thought he counts pokemon that have good reasons to be in PIF

Also on both are the logos/Names of the person who made them

I never claimd its mine i only dont say who made it if it is on the pic

[stuck bane]

But that’s not a good reason, argumentation 101: never give bad examples, else opponents will use it to downplay your credibility

[white meadow]

I mean I dont dislike those examples

But understandable

[stuck bane]

Yeah it’s good art, but not good for showing gogoat’s potential as a fusion, the first image at least

[white meadow]

I lost Stunky/Skiddo but I found one of the Anti Marshadow propaganda

[silent acorn]

Hehe

[silent acorn]

Though you know. That gives the delcatty wonder guard

[stuck bane]

If it’s fighting a shedinja fusion, and you’d want to use neither in double battles as both the enemy Pokémon can gang up on one

[silent acorn]

True

[stuck bane]

I just don’t see it happening except in the niche 1/500+ chance of encountering a shedinja fusion, and even then I’m pretty sure stealth rocks, sandstorm, poison, etc. can still take it down, 1 from me

Not to mention, it’d almost never come up anyways because so many of those moves require breeding

[silent acorn]

True as well. It does earn a 1. Maybe in another vote a 2

[silent acorn]

Alright let me pull up again

I'll keep this group alive for a long time

[wide venture]

What’s a good type to pair with magnemite

[inland jewel]

#fusions this is the better place to ask that

This place is for talking about any new mons that could be added to the game

[robust geyser]

Any chance that they add Bruxish a second time ?

[stuck bane]

if you mean alomomola, then yes

[glossy osprey]

make it triple with luvdisc

[glass patio]

tgdrrhhfesswfghhh

[bitter comet]

I feel like exploud body fusions would look cool

[odd storm]

What’s wrong with marshadow? He’s a cool ‘mon with good fusion potential no?

[white meadow]

But it literally doesnt

[odd storm]

How?

[inland jewel]

his fusion potential bodywise is just machop

sure you could do shadow details and such but there are other mons that already do that in the game

the only thing it would add is more fighting types since ghost is already saturated

and the special move tutor would remove spectral theif

[odd storm]

I mean, put it this way, no matter how much you hate marshadow it’ll probably make its way into the game eventually. The goal’s to add all pokemon so it’s merely a matter of time.

[zinc prairie]

you can just give pokemon the Marshadow "aura"

[glossy osprey]

marshadow has aura?

[inland jewel]

only when it attacks

[inland jewel]

i mean, any ghost type fused with machop gets that anyway

all the machamp usions that have that shadow jojo guy behind him are mainly ghost type fusions

[zinc prairie]

Uhh show one to me

[hushed mantle]

MARSHADOW IS AWESOME I F*CKING LOVE MARSHADOW GIVE ME MARSHADOW

[hushed mantle]

It's true tho

[stuck bane]

Yes but that doesn’t change the fact that there’s plenty of mythicals that should be added before it. The design is too bland and giratina already brings it. Look at the sprite above and tell me that can’t be mistaken for giratina fusion

[hushed mantle]

That's a giratina fusion

[white meadow]

Darkrai and Giratina bring all fusions aspects that Marshadow brings even more

[stuck bane]

Oops wait misunderstood the post above it is supposed to be giratina, but it’s already a niche covered by giratina and darkrai is what I mean

[white meadow]

Also i didnt see any cool/good Marshadow fusion yet

[inland jewel]

marshadow would bring in stats and unique move, but the design is already used by a ton of other mons

[white meadow]

Yeah but the unique move is a special tutor move until marshadow gets added so adding it makes it worse
And high stats are boring for the game

[stuck bane]

It has stats and a signature move, and only ghost type with technician that might have some niche uses? It’s above stuff like luvdisc and silvally but not by much

[white meadow]

Silvally is designe wise interesting

[hushed mantle]

There's this one from spritework

[stuck bane]

Yeah but that’s all it has going for it as all its stats and moves are budget arceus. It’s especially bad when compared to other legendaries and mythicals. I’d like to see silvally fusions more than marshadow, but I can’t deny marshadow having some niche potential

[white meadow]

Dont see a good one here
Its only fine

[hushed mantle]

Atp you're just trying so hard to neglect marshadow's potential for no reason

[white meadow]

I just have taste

[hushed mantle]

Nah it's just ignorance

[stuck bane]

But don’t misunderstand me, if luvdisc is F then marshadow and silvally are somewhere bottom of d tier, it’s not big enough to be considered

[inland jewel]

i mean, marshadow will be added eventually, it just... doesn't have a high priority

[white meadow]

I literally even tried spriting it and hated it

[hushed mantle]

Skill issue tbh

[inland jewel]

heck i want them to add Purugly and there isn't that many good things it can bring to IF

[hushed mantle]

But anyways, blacephalon is still the better ghost

[white meadow]

True i dont have skill

[inland jewel]

hard agree,

Blacephalon is also fun to use

[hushed mantle]

I could sprite that at 4 yo trust me !1!1

[stuck bane]

The other issue is we don’t need more ghost types, there’s so many dragons and ghosts already, I’d rather want to get at least 50% of every type represented before trying to complete all of a single type. But also Blacephalon could be fun for fusions, and maybe ghost type popularity is a point in its favor

[white meadow]

Show your work than

[odd storm]

i thought blacephalon was psychic/fire, he's ghost????

[stuck bane]

Yep, chandelure typing

[odd storm]

damn i would never had guessed

i just assumed psychic cause the whole exploding head gimmic and the design looks like a psychic mon design

[white meadow]

Before saying that atleats try to make more than one good sprite

The only really good Sprite of yours is cynthia

Btw Dont take it as hating i just react to your hella wrong answer

[hushed mantle]

I already know i lost the argument, but yeah i'm not hating either

[white meadow]

Dont worry

But nah on one side I hate Marshadow but I normaly dont let hate decide but potential
Ofc he has good stats, Ability and signature but we could have was more interesting mons with worse stats but actually cool designes

[hushed mantle]

Anyways vote slurpuff and blacephalon next vote

[white meadow]

Yeah those 2 are great
Also Gogoat and Golisopod!

[stuck bane]

So would your team name be “Go GoGogo!”?

[white meadow]

Dont think so

Would have to collect my top 3 and than make a team name again

"The Coal Samurai Goat" maybe

Or GoGoliTor maybe

GGT?

[stuck bane]

“Go grab Timburr”?

[white meadow]

Why Timburr? Who is Grab

[stuck bane]

Ngl couldn’t think of any t Pokémon from unova besides terrakion tornadus thundurus but those wouldn’t have worked either

Go grab tympole

[white meadow]

Tympole is a W obtion

[silent acorn]

Eyes on the other priorities

I know its inevitable but I prefer to ignore it.

[zinc prairie]

Lot of Gen 5 is supposed to emulate Gen 1 I can see why ppl would think they’re less

[silent acorn]

It's just as Sin says Machop body and semi wispy shadow aren't very interesting. Even slurpuff has more to give there.

[silent acorn]

Excavalier is sorta like Scizor but a bit more silly and epic looking

[zinc prairie]

Their evolution is definitely interesting

[silent acorn]

It's the one I like the most out of the 2. Between accelgor and Excavalier

I also like Excadrill for giving us Sharp as hell claws. They look sick

Funny enough it gives sand rush and not as hidden ability

[white meadow]

well it makes sense

[silent acorn]

My tier on Gen 5

[white meadow]

tbh yeah the fact that a pokemon has an ability that actually makes sense can be funny

[silent acorn]

To be honest i still consider half the mons in 5 kinda bland in one way or another

[white meadow]

understandable, but the bugs are still peak

[stuck bane]

Archen in good tier is fine, but why include Archen and leave out archeops?

[white meadow]

The Aliens and Mold Bat are cool imo

[gray vine]

what does already in mean

[white meadow]

Think what it could mean

[gray vine]

that its already in?

i dont see what that would mean lul especially in a food theme

[white meadow]

Exactly

[gray vine]

dont know what that means

[white meadow]

Its not

With food he means what is good or bad

[gray vine]

like i could think it has to do with them being in IF fusions but thats not a ranking

damn really? if only i knew this

i assumed bad food just meant that it must be great

[glass patio]

Cinccino my boy why is it there

[gray vine]

[white meadow]

More or less

[gray vine]

bruh

[glass patio]

i understand it’s just a chinchilla but it’s precious

[glass patio]

Bruh

[white meadow]

Its cute tho and could have a nice place for cloth

[gray vine]

im allowed to be confused on that, if its said to be a ranking, saying mons are in IF isnt a ranking lul

[glass patio]

if they weren’t starters, where would you put them?

also btw in the art side of things i dont get what victini would bring

idk
funny mythical with the letter v

but it’s not that bad it’s a funny design ngl i kinda like it

[white meadow]

butt wings

[glass patio]

and also while i love samurott and it’s my fav starter idk bout the sprites
uhhh it has swords, there’s aegislash
i mean i still love my boy

and i would still be hyped if unova starters got in

[glass patio]

Meh it’s a samurai
Good enough

[white meadow]

Did you know Victini is the first apple pokemon

[gray vine]

what about

[glass patio]

@white meadow you liar

[white meadow]

Well

[glass patio]

Ight forget the new pokemon this is what this game is about now

[silent acorn]

Imagine we request outfits over at spritework lol

Like they open a thread called #Infinite-Tailor

[silent acorn]

Eaten

[silent acorn]

I saw a purugly one I loved

[silent acorn]

To be honest Serperior S tier because it looks fabulous it's a serpent and has contrary, Samurott on Good Food and Emboar in... The bland food right in between Ernie and Bernie

[silent acorn]

Food poisoning means what it means, bland food is just like... Ew has no taste. Like it's not gonna kill but like you could do better

It's like bland food equals eating boiled potato with no salt.

[gray vine]

i didnt need an explanation i was being sarcastic

i was justa asking about the already in thing sicne it had no connection to food nor has it to do with ranking

[silent acorn]

Quality food is like eating some potato puree
Fantastic and fabulous is like eating a stuffed potato with fine cheese
And then finest cuts is like eating roasted potato covered in cheese, onions and beef

[gray vine]

why did you continue

[silent acorn]

Because eating pokemon is delicious

[zinc prairie]

Potato is an average Joe food who wants to eat it as gourmet

[silent acorn]

It's very versatile and in the right hands the most delicious thing.

Anyway finnest cuts is like going for that top notch stuff

Keldeo gives you food poisoning because it makes IF vomit the Secret Sword Move Distribution

[zinc prairie]

The only right hands atm are the ones me and Nemona over here about to throw at you to bring you back to Earth

[silent acorn]

Edible pokemons give me power you cat

[zinc prairie]

He got that Popeye boost

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sandwich-kitten-guh-buff-eat-bread-gif-3622462840155564177

[hushed mantle]

Car sand witch

[thick kindle]

I feel like applin and its evos would be a good addition

[inland jewel]

did you know, that when they made PIF it used a version of Essentials that didn't have Gen 8 and up...

When they heavily modified the code, it made it incompatible with essential updates so much so that in doing so broke the game because the coding was vastly different

on another note, Frogman can't add Gen 8-9 mons due to code incompatibility

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-lightmode-pins-check-oof-gif-21218729

[glossy osprey]

Applin and it's evos: Nah I'd become gen 7-

[glossy osprey]

are you gen 8+ because you're not in PIF or are you not in PIF because you're Gen 8+?

[brisk vessel]

Nah, I'd

[dusty arrow]

holy shit trainer added to pokemon infinite fusion