pif-hoenn-discussion

[dusty arrow]

WAIT ONLY IN THE DLC?? NOT EVEN THE MAIN GAME?

[lethal roost]

i dont think wigglytuff was in sv

[dusty arrow]

it is

[inland jewel]

it is now

[fair jewel]

... did Wigglytuff not have access to Moonblast pre-SV?

[lethal roost]

huh.

[cinder oasis]

No

[dusty arrow]

no its always been in sv

[fair jewel]

Wtf? Why?

[inland jewel]

oh yeah its clefairy that just got added

[cinder oasis]

Gamefreak felt like it

[dusty arrow]

gamefreak

[inland jewel]

like how Torterra only just now got shell smash

[dusty arrow]

TORTERRA GOT WHAT NOW

[grave jolt]

HUGE TORTERRA W

[cinder oasis]

That’s cool ig

[dusty arrow]

they also finally gave empoleon competitive instead of defiant

[lethal roost]

also shiftry got wind rider which i absolutely love

[dusty arrow]

the dedede image fucking sends me

[drowsy drift]

poor magcargo

[inland jewel]

special rock moves fr fr

[dusty arrow]

him using tailwind essentially giving himself a shift gear boost:

[cinder oasis]

That’s so funny that torterra didn’t have shell smash yet Torkoal does which is absolutely useless on him

[lethal roost]

idk what else was interesting about teal mask's balancing hmm

[dusty arrow]

we have all three starters type with a turtle

[lethal roost]

oh ttar has knock off now. thought that was funny

[dusty arrow]

torkoal (fire)
carracosta (water) (and blastoise)
torterra (grass)

[drowsy drift]

triple fusion when

[dusty arrow]

oh my fucking go

[lethal roost]

when we totally get torkoal in the next reveal guys i promise

[dusty arrow]

rs ou if knock off was its modern variant and ttar had it:

[cinder oasis]

Did you know that Overqwil gets fell stinger, Acupressure, destiny bond and minimize from level up?

[dusty arrow]

silly

[drowsy drift]

next reveal is gonna be Barbaracle

[dusty arrow]

lol,
lmao.

[lethal roost]

they gave Johto Qwilfish something overqwil lacked and i forgot what it was. flip turn?

[drowsy drift]

i think Barbaracle might be the worst pokemon ever

[lethal roost]

yeah it was flip turn

[dusty arrow]

pignite, quilladin, simisear, munkidori, the gen 8 starters minus raboot

[grave jolt]

god damn it, I just realized that if we get the Gen 7 legends it's gonna be a triple fusion.

[cinder oasis]

It’s nice that Overqwil gets these moves but it’s crazy that it gets these absurdly rare moves just by level up which aren’t it’s typing.

[clever atlas]

But its got some insane fusion potential

[alpine rune]

honestly, wouldnt be surprised

[drowsy drift]

at least they tried witha ll those even if they suck. barbaracle is just not even attempting to make a good pokemon

[lethal roost]

Moody is like carcinization, where all competitive sets inevitably end up becoming Moody
this shit with acupressure and double team? this is Moody

[dusty arrow]

no, barbaracle wasnt meant to be bad
bruxish is though

[cinder oasis]

Overqwil has minimize, Acupressure and fell stinger for the +3 atk

[drowsy drift]

huge difference between ugly and bad

[lethal roost]

i think acupressure relates to it having needles so it does acupuncture on... itself?

[dusty arrow]

tbf, minimize, acupressure, and fell stinger makes sense for a pufferfish

[lethal roost]

yeah qwilfish always had minimize i thought

[dusty arrow]

destiny bond doesnt though

[cinder oasis]

Destiny bond is wild though

[lethal roost]

eeeyup

[dusty arrow]

unless its like a bee where stinging means death-
(give beedrill destiny bond)

[grave jolt]

Pufferfish have enough poison to kill 50 dudes

[inland jewel]

i like the flavor of if you eat a badly prepared pufferfish it'll kill you
So in that regard, Destiny bond works

[dusty arrow]

give beedrill destiny bond

[lethal roost]

Qwilfish has also had Fell Stinger since it was added (XY) and Destiny Bond at some point but i cant tell where

[grave jolt]

Give Beedrill a better typing 😔

[dusty arrow]

like what

[drowsy drift]

what other typing are you going to give a bee with a huge stinger?

[lethal roost]

ah it got it in FRLG

[cinder oasis]

Overqwil learning these moves makes sense but the variety is actually crazy

[lethal roost]

and Qwilfish got Acupressure in BDSP

[dusty arrow]

so like, whos idea was it to give smeargle moody

[drowsy drift]

smeargle has always been a piss-take pokemon

[lethal roost]

so basically Overqwil knows a bunch of the moves Qwilfish has always had and its just the first time anyone is noticing it because unlike Qwilfish, Overqwil is actually good

outside of acupressure that one's relatively new

[dusty arrow]

fun fact: basculegion gets last respects

[dusty arrow]

making houndstone completely irrelevant

[inland jewel]

we always knew that though,

[drowsy drift]

I love power creep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dusty arrow]

I FUCKING HATE PALAFIN!!!!!!!!!!

[lethal roost]

i think houndstone got an actual attacking move in teal mask

[cinder oasis]

It makes sense Ngl but it’s still funny considering how good basculegion is. It’s viable in Ubers because of Last respects

[inland jewel]

there was the huge controversy of banning last respect or banning houndstone

[grave jolt]

Dark, since all bees and wasps are evil.

[inland jewel]

Bumblebees are not evil

on that note though, 7 slots left

[lethal roost]

yeah Houndstone got Poltergeist so it can now do things 👍

[dusty arrow]

nice

[grave jolt]

4

[alpine rune]

mmm palafin

[dusty arrow]

palafin can commit no

[lethal roost]

also Gliscor got Crabhammer which is very interesting
i know it has pincers but

[dusty arrow]

excuse me?

[cinder oasis]

Basculegion with the Water/ghost combo, with Wave crash, Aqua jet, Last respects and Swift swim/Adaptability

[inland jewel]

sableye, Tyrunt, Tyrantrum, Snover, Glalie, Froslass, Phantump, Trevanent, Carvanha, Sharpedo, Goomy, Sligoo, Goodra. this is only 13

[grave jolt]

oh shit Gliscore learns Crab Hammer at 45

[lethal roost]

gliscor has crabhammer now

not that it'll ever be using it i just think its very silly

[drowsy drift]

if gliscor can have it why doesn't scizor?

[dusty arrow]

JUST GIVE SCIZOR CRABHAMMER NOW
FUCK IT, TRAPINCH HAS THE SAME HEAD SHAPE
FLYGON WITH CRABHAMMER!!!!

[grave jolt]

make it so Trapinch learns Crab Hammer, but not Flygon 😉

[lethal roost]

also oddly enough Tornadus and Thundurus got Knock Off back but not Landorus
fascinating stuff 🤔

[inland jewel]

what 3 is in?

[cinder oasis]

That would op ngl

[drowsy drift]

just like how vibrava learns boomburst but not flygon (I know they fixed this later)

[dusty arrow]

i mean in gen 3 breloom doesnt have spore but you have to wait to LEVEL FIFTY SOMETHING to learn spore in shroomish before evolving it into breloom

[inland jewel]

same in this game

[dusty arrow]

fuck landorus ig lol

hot take: thundurus has the coolest therian form

[raw bison]

Landorus is the wellbehaved one of the set I suppose, while the other two are troublemakers? So they do the rude thing and he's above that?

[grave jolt]

There were leaks, not mentioning names but data miners found some and immediatly showed them off.

[drowsy drift]

hotter take: the therian forms are stupid

[cinder oasis]

Now it’s lvl 40 which isn’t that bad ig, considering XL exp crystals

[lethal roost]

there actually is a bug where Chimecho that knows Entrainment is considered illegal in the DLC, even though Chingling can get it

massive pain in the ass for someone who got blindsided by it

[inland jewel]

until they're confirmed, im not counting them

[grave jolt]

kk

Walrein Gang Walrein Gang Walrein Gang

[cinder oasis]

Kk slider

[lethal roost]

it might actually be a game balance thing given the horrors landorus inflicted

[inland jewel]

garboder and trubbish were in the demo, and they were dev choice, so those 3 could be also staff pick

[lethal roost]

but the flavoring of it not getting knock makes sense as well

[inland jewel]

so until they are confirmed community vote, we got 7 slots left

[cinder oasis]

If landorus got knock off it would all be over

[inland jewel]

it used to have knock off, they just removed it in gen 9

[lethal roost]

Enamorus also lacks Knock Off but it sucks and I don't want to discuss it further

[grave jolt]

God I hope so lmao

[dusty arrow]

enamorus doesnt exist enamorus doesnt exist enamorus doesnt exist

[inland jewel]

yeah we have 7 slots left

[tardy oracle]

this shit is still going strong huh

[lethal roost]

[cinder oasis]

Thats awesome

[tardy oracle]

thought this was going to last a month

[inland jewel]

like how almost 90% of all scald users lost scald

[lethal roost]

also Goodra got Scald

[dusty arrow]

live volcanion reaction

[tardy oracle]

i was wrong

[cinder oasis]

Enamorous with knock off would be monstrous, considering superpower contrary

[inland jewel]

to be fair, voting lasted a month, Reveals are weekly

[outer agate]

and in return they made scald with spread

[grave jolt]

"We're adding 20 pokemon."
40 pokemon later "Alright y'all know what time it is, here are the new staff picks!

[tardy oracle]

are the reveals weekly cause it's gonna take a shitload of time to implement them all?

[inland jewel]

they said their adding 20 Community pokemon, not JUST 20

[drowsy drift]

implement? no. get sprites made for? that will take time

[inland jewel]

more of a hype train since none of the pokemon are actually in yet

[cinder oasis]

The updates gonna be out late october or November most likely

[inland jewel]

the official update with all pokemon added is earliest October, latest December

[cold fog]

ABOUT 7 slots left. They DID say "Vote will add 20 or so Pokémon". Meaning if we already have 19 slots filled, the last slot just might be a 3-stage evolution family. 20 is not 100% set in stone.

[dusty arrow]

we have infinite slots left

[grave jolt]

Theoretically, they could all be implemented now, but there's no fusion sprites yet.

[dusty arrow]

fakemon in infinite fusion when

[cold fog]

Well...... infinite 'till the game breaks, I guess.

[inland jewel]

not theoretically, since Frogman said he CANNOT add them all because he aint got time for that

[grave jolt]

after gen 9 😉

[brisk vessel]

Soon

[inland jewel]

someone got to get him the code for the gen 8-9 pokemon first

[drowsy drift]

fakemon aren't good

[dusty arrow]

naww by then we will be at gen 14

[grave jolt]

Meant the current vote.

[brisk vessel]

Now to find time to actually make the sprite

[marsh lily]

Too silly for it's own good.

[inland jewel]

well no, he said the reason why its going to be a october-december release is because he is coding in the community pokemon

[grave jolt]

aah

[inland jewel]

so the last 7 slots aint in yet,

[cinder oasis]

Community?

[lethal roost]

ah, the Creature

[inland jewel]

the 20 something pokemon the community voted for... you know like Tyrantrum and Trevenant, and Sharpedo

[grave jolt]

I want walrein 😔

[dusty arrow]

plot twist: the votes dont actually matter and they are just spinning a wheel and adds who ever the wheel lands on

[drowsy drift]

it's likely they're using a mix of popularity and good additions for the game

[cinder oasis]

Ahh my bad

[inland jewel]

if you are chosen for the Trevanent sprite contest you can add them

[drowsy drift]

starters had to be excluded because people are stupid dumbdumbs

[cinder oasis]

100%

[grave jolt]

Actually, with the way the reveals have gone so far, I wouldn't be suprised.

[inland jewel]

either that or from the Spriter Exclusive votes

[cinder oasis]

Not really

[lethal roost]

#fusions

[inland jewel]

the moniker A pokemon is someone's favorite is real

[dusty arrow]

thanks satan

[grave jolt]

Alas, I have made exactly one sprite, a privite alt for Umbreon/Gardevoir.

[dusty arrow]

FISH REACT THE PERSON ABOVE ME

[inland jewel]

youd just have to submit one sprite, and you get entered into the raffle

the fact that its a raffle means it doesn't have to be a good sprite, just its only one per person. but winners get added twice

cause the event specifically said. "One spriter will be chosen to add a pokemon of their choice. NOT The winner gets to add a pokemon of their choice

[cinder oasis]

That means Basculin has a chance

[inland jewel]

if i get chosen ima add skuntank

[drowsy drift]

I don't want to root against you

[inland jewel]

actually, let me look at all the tierlists in this chat, ill chose the one that will piss off the most people

[dusty arrow]

bruxish then

[drowsy drift]

one of the elemental monkies

[cinder oasis]

Anything but skuntank

[drowsy drift]

everyone secretly wants that simisage/simisear/simipour triple fusion from colress

[inland jewel]

i actually like skuntank though, he is gonna give all the fusions amazing pompadours

[cinder oasis]

Nearly Everyone and I mean nearly everyone despises Skuntank

[dusty arrow]

sir, we dont want josuke

[inland jewel]

not true, skuntank isn't on the 3 least voted mons

Frogman has confirmed Skuntank has more vote than at least 10 pokemon

[cinder oasis]

Just because it’s not the bottom three doesn’t mean people don’t absolutely despise it

It’s definitely one of the most hated Pokémon in general

[inland jewel]

just becasue you said you hated skuntank doesn't mean everyone else hates it

[dusty arrow]

no everyone definitely hates it

[cinder oasis]

Everyone really does

[inland jewel]

where are all the polls that support this though

im not seeing any anti-skuntank propoganda

[sharp sphinx]

I hate it for infinite fusion specifcally

[dusty arrow]

i havent seen any anti-pokemon propaganda

[cinder oasis]

I hate Skuntank fr

[sharp sphinx]

I have though not for them

[dusty arrow]

drapion is so much better

[inland jewel]

you missed the Anti-starter propoganda that was here before Starters were removed from the votes

[bleak plaza]

I think purrugly could make some people mad

[dusty arrow]

then that means people just forgot about it

[inland jewel]

why though, Purugly is such a cool mon, i'd definiately want them in

[dusty arrow]

that doesnt really count since they took 9 spots and was voted for so much

[cinder oasis]

Purugly I really hope doesn’t get in

[bleak plaza]

Trauma from diamond and pearl

[inland jewel]

okay and?

[cinder oasis]

Liking both Skuntank and Purugly is one in a million

[bleak plaza]

Tbh I like purrugly its just alot of people dont

[inland jewel]

to be fair, compared to other normal types, Purugly is sorta mid in VGC

[drowsy drift]

it has UGLY in the name and people are mad that it's ugly

[inland jewel]

it doesn't have good coverage, and the only good thing it has is its Speed stat

[cinder oasis]

Just because that’s the point doesn’t mean I can’t hate it for being ugly

[bleak plaza]

Delcatty could also make some people mad with its horrible base stats

Cute mon tho

[cinder oasis]

Delcatty would be terrible as well

[drowsy drift]

purugly would be funny to add since people would need to make intentionally ugly designs

[inland jewel]

Still here is for Skuntank or Purulgy to make it in!!!!

[inland jewel]

not true at all, just because it has Ugly in its name doesn't mean they HAVE to make it ugly

[dusty arrow]

i dont care about purugly, i just never think about it

[grave jolt]

Not necessarily 😉

[dusty arrow]

just a forgettable pokemon

[inland jewel]

to be fair, Glameow and Purugly haven't been in a regional dex since Diamond and Pearl, they got cut out of Platinum too

[dusty arrow]

isnt pla here

[inland jewel]

at least Skuntank has been in other games

[bleak plaza]

I would choose skitty. Delcatty would make people pretty mad but nobody can truely hate skitty

[cinder oasis]

I know purugly is PLA

[inland jewel]

yeah, the SINNOH-based game

[cinder oasis]

True

[raw bison]

lets be real, if skitty gets in it's so it can be fused with wailord

[inland jewel]

if the region AINT sinnoh then Purugly and Glameow aint in it

[bleak plaza]

[dusty arrow]

skitlord better be a shitpost sprite

[inland jewel]

Skitlord is gonna be a skitty head with an INFLATED body

[drowsy drift]

delcatty would give us Normalize

[cinder oasis]

Camerupt is also been in very few regional Dexedrine surprisingly

[dusty arrow]

wow normalize is so good i sure do love being walled by ghost types

[cinder oasis]

Actively terrible ability

[inland jewel]

yeah but at least Camerupt showed up in other regions outside of Hoenn

[drowsy drift]

use foresight nerd

[dusty arrow]

wow i love wasting a turn on a near worthless move

[cinder oasis]

Bro you don’t have any coverage and can hit nothing for super effective

[bleak plaza]

It has great coverage too with all the tms it can learn. Too bad its base stats will ruin any and all fusions

[drowsy drift]

this game is singleplayer only btw, seems like you forgot

[inland jewel]

just because its stats aren't good doesn't mean people wont use it

[grave jolt]

Team battle Liepard 😉

[dusty arrow]

doesnt matter, normalize baaaad

[cinder oasis]

Normalize is trash

[inland jewel]

heck people use Unown and its dogcrap compared to other fusions

[bleak plaza]

True. But its still a bummer

[cinder oasis]

400 bst is bad but still is usable

[inland jewel]

at least its better than ledian

[dusty arrow]

but unown has creative fusion designs
skitty and delcatty are just.. cat

[inland jewel]

people have worked cooler fusions for less

[raw bison]

Skitty and Delcatty do have those cute littel bonnets tho

[drowsy drift]

known fact about people on the internet: they don't like cats at all

[inland jewel]

Known fact about Gamefreak, they just don't like cats

[cinder oasis]

Fr

[bleak plaza]

Im just baised cause i used in sapphire

[grave jolt]

Could we get Litten as a mono-stage pokemon 🥺

[dusty arrow]

chien pao would like to speak to you

[inland jewel]

who?

[cinder oasis]

It isn’t a cat really but true

[dusty arrow]

it.. is

[bleak plaza]

Maybe if you win? I dont think so tho cause they said theyre being added later

[cinder oasis]

It’s not actually the cat, it’s the sword in the mouth

[grave jolt]

😔

[inland jewel]

i mean its a sabertooth tiger

[dusty arrow]

damn thats crazy but its still a cat mostly

[drowsy drift]

it reads more like a ferret with sabreteeth than it does a cat

[cinder oasis]

Yes, so it does count

[inland jewel]

starters are so popular that they had to remove them from the votes, they're gonna add them later anyway so just wait

[bleak plaza]

If the sword manifested the cat body does it make it a furry?

[grave jolt]

Welp, gonna resprite a fire type into litten while I wait. What do y'all think would be the best candidate for that?

[dusty arrow]

no

[cinder oasis]

No

[inland jewel]

only if it stands on its hindlegs

[dusty arrow]

probably houndoom, even if it is a dog

[bleak plaza]

Hmm you might be right

[raw bison]

I'd say that depends on how and why the sword picked that body shape, but we'd have to ask

[cinder oasis]

If it wanted to dress up as a animal and is an animal enthusiast then it is a furry

[inland jewel]

they're just anthro animals like Incinceroar and Meowscarada, and Lucario

[raw bison]

I mean if it's a sentient creature that chose to live as a cat just because it wanted to be cat, I'd say it's a furry. But if it got the form assigned at random, or picked it for a practical reason, not tied to just wanting to be cat shaped, not a furry

[grave jolt]

Good idea, this way I can pretend Torracat is the final evo 😌

[dusty arrow]

braixen

[inland jewel]

thats another example, but i aint gonna sit here and go through the entire pokedex to list all the examples

[cinder oasis]

Well yes, because they have fur. They’re not a furry though as in dressing up as an animal

[inland jewel]

but they are furry-bait

[cinder oasis]

True

[bleak plaza]

I mean some psychic types have proven sentience like mewtwo and the one that rides the horse so i dont see why not

[raw bison]

Yeah but Idk how we'd go about finding out which it is, let alone asking it why it is a cat of all the things it could be

[inland jewel]

Lucario is known to be sentient since they can manipulate aura. becaues of that one Sinnoh movie

[cinder oasis]

I’m pretty sure the 4 treasures are just objects possessed by malice

[drowsy drift]

all pokemon have sentience, but not all are sapient

[grave jolt]

I personally headcannon that all pokemon are sapient

[cinder oasis]

For real

[inland jewel]

they are sapient, they have their own language, and such

[bleak plaza]

Well yes but i meant more on a level of human intelligence and understanding

[cinder oasis]

Slugma has not even a single thought ever in its life

[inland jewel]

they can choose to do harm to trainers that mistreat them and such too

[drowsy drift]

that's sapience

[dusty arrow]

riolu, floragato, scorbunny, raboot, cinderace, zoroark, blaziken,chimchar, monferno, infernape, pignite, emboar, delphox, abra, kadabra, alakazam, mienfoo, mienshao, kubfu, urshifu, tsareena, salazzle, dolliv, dollivs evo that i forgot the name of, lopunny, and im sure theres more but im too lazy to remember

[grave jolt]

All pokemon can understand human commands, communicate to each other, and trainers can (sometimes) communicate with them.

[inland jewel]

they can give consent to marriage too apparently

[cinder oasis]

Oh yeah I forgot about that lol

[dusty arrow]

neither has clodsire

[cinder oasis]

Fr

[grave jolt]

Hell, there's decent evidence that humans are pokemon, just that pokeballs are programmed to not catch people.

[bleak plaza]

That means in theory a pokemon could be a furry if they had enough understanding of what one is

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/clodsire-pokemon-cute-gif-1957822124122959203

[raw bison]

I think the way I saw it summarized is sentience is recognizing you yourself as a distinct entity among the world, and sapience is recognizing that quality can and does exist in others. Many animals can recognize themselves, and are thus sentient, but not all can recognize that other animals, even of their own kind, are going to act on their own interests

[inland jewel]

but pokemon do recognize that others act in their own interest...

[cinder oasis]

Alakazam and metagross fr

[dusty arrow]

metagross is awesome

[raw bison]

Like uh, you could argue squirells are sentient, because they actively plan for their future in hiding food, but crows are sapient in that they recognize other crows might see where they hid the food, and they modify their behavior accordingly (pretending to hide their food when they think they're being watched)

[drowsy drift]

crows can also pass on knowledge generationally

[cinder oasis]

Crows are very intelligent animals fr

[raw bison]

But yeah by that definition I'd say almost every pokemon is sentient, and most of those are sapient. Things like Unown might get weird, depending on how they've been presented

[inland jewel]

like pokemon don't migrate to other lands because they know about other pokemon muscling into their territory/ urban development.

[bleak plaza]

And that one time a crow remembered the exact human that kicked it and brought its friends for revenge

[raw bison]

Yeah crows are such good animals, I love them so much.

[dusty arrow]

i want a raven pokemon
and NO the corviknight family doesnt count

[drowsy drift]

https://tenor.com/view/honchkrow-pokemon-faint-battle-revolution-animation-gif-14408374

[dusty arrow]

honchKROW

[inland jewel]

thats a crow, not a raven

[grave jolt]

's a crow

[raw bison]

There was a whole study where professors at a college wore masks and harassed the crows, and not only did the crows that were harassed remember that the masks were bad news, crows well outside the area of study started responding negatively to the masks, meaning that the university crows told other crows that the mask wearers were bad news

[cinder oasis]

Honchraven

[dusty arrow]

although honchkrow getting an evo would be epic

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/corviknight-spin-spinny-rotate-rotating-gif-22752924

[bleak plaza]

Or a regional vairent

[hushed mantle]

Seelion

[dusty arrow]

corviknight finding out it completely walls tinkaton

[dusty arrow]

isnt blastoise called the shellfish pokemon

[grave jolt]

HA SEE! WALREIN ISN'T TAKING SEELS SPACE, BECAUSE IT'S A SEA LION NOT A SEAL!

[dusty arrow]

sealeo

[grave jolt]

Sealeo is weird

[dusty arrow]

still a sea lion

[cinder oasis]

Is seel even real. Maybe it’s just an illusion

[inland jewel]

by the logic Blastoise aint a tortoise, instead he a lobster

[hushed mantle]

Blastoise is a fish

[drowsy drift]

blastoise isn't a tortoise because tortoises don't live in water

[inland jewel]

he sure aint a turtle

[dusty arrow]

if flamingos eating shrimp turns them pink
shouldnt eating clauncher and clawitzer turn us blue

[grave jolt]

Blastoise is a semi-terrestrial turtle.

[cinder oasis]

TrenUser: Lopunny

[raw bison]

only if you're a flamingo

[inland jewel]

no, because shrimps only turn pink when they die

[dusty arrow]

flamigo blue shiny when

[inland jewel]

so we have to ask ourselves what colors does clauncher turn into when they die

[hushed mantle]

Flamigo should be blue

Wait shiny claunchers are orange

[dusty arrow]

their shiny colors to troll everyone

[cinder oasis]

On the side note Clawitzer has arguably one of the best shinies in pokemon

[smoky ether]

cinderace

[dusty arrow]

clawitzer shouldve been water/dark change my mind

[grave jolt]

Clauncher is a lobster, so it doesn't 😉

[cinder oasis]

Trenbolene Acetate

[grave jolt]

So, pink?

[inland jewel]

if he gets added then he can

[dusty arrow]

yes

[inland jewel]

he looking like zoidberg over here

[dusty arrow]

crawdad reaction

[cinder oasis]

I love this shiny so much ngl

[drowsy drift]

new regional convergent evo: shrimpidimp

[dusty arrow]

perfection

[smoky ether]

Breloom is da best ever

Low key

[dusty arrow]

all pokemon get a new evolution: krabby
(animals have been evolving into crabs, it only makes sense)

[inland jewel]

or they evolve from krabby

[cinder oasis]

There should be 5 Krabby convergent pokemon

[grave jolt]

Only Crustacians do. Other animals have their own base forms; Mammals, for example, become rodent shaped.

[dusty arrow]

so bidoof and rattata truly are god

[inland jewel]

i mean they're called Crawdaunt, Clauncher Crabrawler, Clawf,

[cinder oasis]

There should A krabby of every type like arceus

[grave jolt]

Water/Fire krabby

[drowsy drift]

new krabby evos with different crabs and monarchy-related names would be neat

kingler's japanese name is also kingler so the idea could work

[dusty arrow]

how about an assassin kingler? or a hitma-

[cinder oasis]

They should add a krill gun pokemon

Like a octillery convergent

[dusty arrow]

octillery needs an evo

[grave jolt]

krillperor, and all the crab pokemon evolve into it

[cinder oasis]

Krillvolver fr

[inland jewel]

so like clauncher

[drowsy drift]

it can fire a krillion rounds per minute

[dusty arrow]

its quite krimple

[cinder oasis]

Krillvolver, shrimple as that

[grave jolt]

Gen 10 water starter, shrimple

[dusty arrow]

gen 10 needs at least one ben 10 reference

[cinder oasis]

One in a krillion

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-krillion-happy-feet-gif-12723729865219012965

[drowsy drift]

gen 1 remakes to celebrate 10 generations

[cinder oasis]

I love the 4th gen 1 remake fr

[grave jolt]

Shrimple, Krillvolver, Krillion

[dusty arrow]

third

[drowsy drift]

it'll have been at least 5 years since the last one!

[dusty arrow]

wait are you counting yellow

[grave jolt]

Pikachu and Eevee are enough, please let it die...

[drowsy drift]

infinite fusion is the last kanto game you ever need

[dusty arrow]

WOW I SURE DO LOVE THE TEN THOUSANDTH PIKACHU FORM MM-MM-MM

DONT FORGET CHARIZARD!!!!!

[cinder oasis]

Shristol, Krilletta and Krillvolver

[drowsy drift]

words that krill

[dusty arrow]

we need a lobster pokemon name

[grave jolt]

Hey guys, do you have the time to talk about our lord and savior Pachi- gunshot

[grave jolt]

lobstir

[dusty arrow]

you tellin' me a shrimp fried this rice?

[grave jolt]

It's as shrimple as that.

[drowsy drift]

crawdaunt already stole the future lobster pokemon's name with its design

[dusty arrow]

crawdaunt my beloved

[drowsy drift]

Lobstar

[grave jolt]

Crawdaunt regional form

[dusty arrow]

crawdaunt evo when

[drowsy drift]

clawf also took a rock type crustration niche

[raw bison]

I think in the hoenn dex it specifically refers to corphish and crawdaunt as invasive so technically we don't know their home region/form yet

[drowsy drift]

lobstar real

[grave jolt]

Whatever the regional version of the Pacific Northwest is

[drowsy drift]

that sounds like the worst region idea ever

[grave jolt]

there's like 5 youtubers I've seen making PNW fakemon regions

[drowsy drift]

exactly

[grave jolt]

It's certainly got room to explore.
God, imagine it's just seattle like Unova was with new york

[drowsy drift]

appalachia at least has folklore to pull from to make interesting designs

[grave jolt]

So does the PNW.People just don't talk about it because the entire region, including BC, is the population of New York State.

[drowsy drift]

all the cryptids you could find in the pnw all live in portland

[grave jolt]

Nah, that's just Orgonian propoganda.

[dusty arrow]

paul bunyan pokemon when

[grave jolt]

YES
Please let us have a regional Tauros!

[raw bison]

appalachia also has mountains literally older than bones, so fossils there could be really interesting

[dusty arrow]

shiny miltank tho

[dusty arrow]

the maractus are flossing, eliminate them.

[drowsy drift]

a paul bunyan pokemon would probably be best as a giant blue minotaur, combining paul and his ox

[frozen rover]

I don't think they are?

[dusty arrow]

thats actually a really cool idea

it could be the psuedo of the region

[drowsy drift]

and we are way, way overdue for a hoop snake pokemon

[dusty arrow]

maybe ice/fighting type?

[frozen rover]

We're overdue for more cactus based mons. There's hundreds of kinds that aren't pokemon yet

[grave jolt]

Two stage evolution; blue Ox into a blue dragon/ice type minotaur. evolves at level 40.

[drowsy drift]

give us the succ-ulent

[grave jolt]

Pacific Northwest has two deserts to work with 😉

[dusty arrow]

no, i just want an ice/fighting type other than fucking crabominable.
also, i dont want another ice/dragon type after baxcalibur

[drowsy drift]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-baxcalibur-pokemon-scarlet-pokemon-violet-gif-27386290

[frozen rover]

What about ice steel?

[grave jolt]

Could take Dragon/Fighting

[cinder oasis]

Ice/dragon type is really good ngl

[dusty arrow]

kommo-o

also, A MINOTAUR ISNT A DRAGON JACKASS
also i want less dragon psuedos

[cinder oasis]

Really bad type combo

[drowsy drift]

fairy/fighting 👍

[dusty arrow]

thats what bewear shouldve been

[cinder oasis]

Ghost and grass pseudo

[dusty arrow]

eh

[grave jolt]

Dragon/steel Pseudo

[cinder oasis]

There is one

[dusty arrow]

h-goodra

[grave jolt]

😔

[cinder oasis]

Water and grass pseudo or Ice and grass

[grave jolt]

Now one of biggest goodra arguments are coming to haunt me lmfao

[dusty arrow]

ice and grass bad
water and grass boring

[grave jolt]

also, since it's paul bunyan, Grass/Steel.

[frozen rover]

Mate, ice and anything is bad

[cinder oasis]

Ice and electric pseudo

[grave jolt]

Mate, Ice...is bad.

[drowsy drift]

as an ice type baxcalibur is so bad he got banned from ou

[dusty arrow]

i say ice type because its believed the paul bunyan legend came from a 7 foot or so canadian
and the fighting type is from a FUCKING MINOTAUR

[drowsy drift]

oh wait, it's because he's too strong

[cinder oasis]

Ice has some good type combos

[cinder oasis]

It’s also because ice and dragon isn’t an awful type combo it’s just alright

[dusty arrow]

ice fighting is a good type combo its just stuck on crabominable

[drowsy drift]

snowscape and aurora veil have made ice a lot better but without the support it's still not great

[grave jolt]

Ice has 2 good defensive combos.
Ice/Steel and Ice/Poison, and neither are that good

[dusty arrow]

do we even have an ice/poison type

[drowsy drift]

nope

[dusty arrow]

proposal to buff ice:

[drowsy drift]

proposal to buff ice: remove stealth rock

[dusty arrow]

resistance to grass, ground, and flying

[dusty arrow]

but that would also buff charizard

[frozen rover]

Steel is kinda bad because anything it's cross typed with gives it more weaknesses than it gives resistances

[cinder oasis]

Ice/fighting/ ice/ghost and ice/Dragon are alright while Ice/electric and Ice/Ground are good

[dusty arrow]

bro did not just call steel bad

[cinder oasis]

Bro💀

[grave jolt]

Make water weak to it, make it resist grass flying and ground.

[frozen rover]

Steel is so good it's bad

[dusty arrow]

no i think ice should resist water but not be effective against it

that would remove freeze drys entire niche

[cinder oasis]

Steel is literally the best type in the entire game, 10 resistances and 3 weaknesses

[frozen rover]

Any type you add to steel makes steel weaker

[dusty arrow]

fairy type:
bug type:

[cinder oasis]

Steel and fairy being the best type combo in the entire game

[grave jolt]

Steel/dark

[frozen rover]

Alright, you got me on fairy.

[dusty arrow]

bug type:

[drowsy drift]

steel/bug is based

[cinder oasis]

Dragon and steel, bug and steel, water and steel

[grave jolt]

nah, don't want that 4x weakness to fire in non-single player fights

[dusty arrow]

escavalier and scizor are awesome
forretress is alright ig

[drowsy drift]

don't forget durant

[dusty arrow]

yeah durant with hustle is awesome

[cinder oasis]

Bug and steel is an amazing typing

[frozen rover]

Bug gets a 4x weakness and 4 more neutrals for 3 2x weaknesses.

[dusty arrow]

it has one weakness

[drowsy drift]

fire is the only weakness

[cinder oasis]

1 weakness for 8 resistances and 1 immunity is crazy

[drowsy drift]

resisting normal, bug, steel, psychic, ice, dragon, and fairy is insane

[grave jolt]

tbf, if I had a infestation of steel bugs I'd use fire too.

[drowsy drift]

heatmor moment

[dusty arrow]

heatmor shouldve been fire/steel

[drowsy drift]

heatmor shouldn't have copied so much of magmar's design

[dusty arrow]

heatmor has a great shiny at least

[cinder oasis]

I forgot what Magmar was for a minute

[dusty arrow]

heracross deserves an evo
and pinsir

[drowsy drift]

eviolite heracross...

[grave jolt]

Took me a bit, I read that as Magcargo

[dusty arrow]

:)

[cinder oasis]

Sableye, Mawile and delibird

[frozen rover]

Anyway how did we even get here? Why are we not discussing goodra and goodra fusions?

[grave jolt]

Heracross deserves a prevo

[dusty arrow]

now give shuckle an evo thats basically deoxys-a

[drowsy drift]

god i would kill for a delibird evo. I love delibird even though its stats are dogshit

[dusty arrow]

im sorry, who?

[cinder oasis]

Delibird with the 330 bst

[frozen rover]

Two got megas and the last got a paradox form. Evolutions seem likely off the table

[cinder oasis]

Smeargle with the 250 bst

[dusty arrow]

moody:
infinite movepool:

[grave jolt]

Good point! I saw a Goodra/Lop-

[drowsy drift]

smeargle has a gimmick that warrants a low stat total, delibird is just weak for no reason

[cinder oasis]

It’s still atrocious

[dusty arrow]

its used in competitive

[cinder oasis]

True ig but it would be nice if it got an evo with like a 380 bst instead of 250

[drowsy drift]

delibird also has TWO ABILITIES THAT DO THE SAME THING

[dusty arrow]

what are they again

[drowsy drift]

vital spirit and its hidden ability is insomnia

[dusty arrow]

lmao

[cinder oasis]

I remember sweeping with a Delibird in random battles on showdown last week lol

[grave jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153127613888479262/1153139444992450581/222.444.png

[dusty arrow]

oh look, a liar.

[cinder oasis]

I’m not lying

[grave jolt]

Found this in the sprite channel for Goomy, and it's really good

[dusty arrow]

oh look, a liar.

[cinder oasis]

I saw it briefly and it looks nice

[cinder oasis]

I’m not lying

[dusty arrow]

oh look, a liar.

[cinder oasis]

I’m not lying

[dusty arrow]

oh look, a liar.

[cinder oasis]

I’m not lying

[drowsy drift]

https://tenor.com/view/wobbuffet-pokemon-nervous-gif-5786137

[dusty arrow]

yeah you are

[cinder oasis]

I’m not lying

[dusty arrow]

uh huh

[cinder oasis]

Cope

[dusty arrow]

nuh uh

[cinder oasis]

I really like wobbufet just because of the anime

[cinder oasis]

Yuh uh

[dusty arrow]

it yuh huh or uh huh

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/goodra-cope-gif-23805825

[drowsy drift]

that's how it is

[cinder oasis]

Nuh uh

[drowsy drift]

I like wobuffet for the same reason I like hitmonchan and hitmonlee - they're based on obscure dead japanese celebrities

[lofty spindle]

The Goodra...

   The Goodra is real!

[lusty oxide]

rip chat

[lofty spindle]

How many open slots are left?

[sterile spoke]

7 slots remain. 👀

Assuming datamined info is true and they count towards the 20, that goes down to 3. 😭

[lofty spindle]

Hang on what's that info?

[lusty oxide]

What’s the fourth datamine mon? I thought it was only necrozma and sand

[sterile spoke]

Nihilego, apparently. 😅

[lusty oxide]

Bruh it’s literally the most boring out of all of them

[chrome maple]

Last hope for Wyvern:((
But I do want the game have a ultra beast .

[sterile spoke]

To be fair, at least you can make sprites for it decently. 😅

I absolutely do not want any Ultra Beasts personally (and just one would feel really weird), but making sprites with the likes of Guzzlord, Celesteela and Kartana would just be a nightmare. 😦

[lusty oxide]

Yeah I don’t want any ultra beasts too

Being hard to sprite for was one of my concerns with the ultra beasts too

[violet current]

thats why my most wanted ub is blacephalon

rly simple design + funny clown theme

[lapis gate]

Wait goodra got in?! But that dude who had it in his name said nobody likes it and he's the specialest little boy for thinking it's cooler than the edgy pokemens
Never trusting anyone on the internet again 😔

No but fr if cubchoo also made it in somehow we are gonna be so close to a spriter coming out with the droopiest boi you've ever seen between those two

[clever atlas]

I still believe

[sturdy breach]

Was that me? if so wth

[loud fable]

I mean basically to me its either cute, unique or edgy Pokémon which are getting in, so makes sense of goodra getting in to me as it kinda fits the unique and the cute part

[sterile spoke]

Goodra has already proven to be a nightmare.

I warned you all. 😂

[gusty cradle]

the patch is not even out yet and here I am thinking of fusions for the new pokemons

[lapis gate]

You trying to cook something with it?

[terse fable]

Don't let some bad eggs ruin the Goodra spirit

[robust geyser]

how many mons is there still to be revealed

[grave jolt]

I mean, how many rule breakers could there possibly be?

[sterile spoke]

I'd already been pinged within a day of its announcement. Considering how rare that is, that's already enough to raise eyebrows. 😂

[sturdy breach]

Was it the Lopunny one?

[terse fable]

I think some is just people overreacting, like Goodra/Miltank is gonna look weird people just need to accept that lol, but some others, eehhh...

[sterile spoke]

You don't have to moderate the sprites.

[sturdy breach]

I didn't even think the Lopunny one was that bad after the thickness was fixed. I don't see how the pose was that suggestive but w/e 😄

[sterile spoke]

Let's not delve into it again.

[terse fable]

Like I said, SOME is overreacting lol, regardless you all still have to deal with it 😂

[sturdy breach]

I agree\

[clever atlas]

Lets change the topic

[violet current]

hii rockruff

[terse fable]

That topics been over for a min, hey though

[violet current]

gave my shiny rockruff an everstone bc i want her to stay pupy forever

[neat hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/blitzle-double-kick-pokemon-gif-2018940382882627457

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/zebra-costume-running-man-running-zebra-weird-bizarre-gif-3527167

[terse fable]

I actually would love the zebra

[white meadow]

Yes Goats are cool

[thorny ferry]

Specially when fused with brux

[lofty spindle]

A nightmare? A daydream I say! Gahahahahaha!

[lofty spindle]

But yeah, Rockruff would be awesome.

A friend of mine would probably be ecstatic if both it and Ribombee made it.

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ln-ln2-little-nightmares-little-nightmares2-six-gif-19960581

Yes Nightmares are good

[terse fable]

Little Nightmares are better

[white meadow]

We really need some Little Nightmare alts

[thorny ferry]

Snorunt/kirlia

[white meadow]

Thats a idea
And Froslass/Gardevoir the Lady

Mimikyu/Pawniard and Bisharp could work for Mono and thin man but

[remote ibex]

Yoooo goomy

[civic harness]

Yes

[honest tartan]

Oh hey the shitfishing hole is back

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-what-emote-gif-23702501

[little island]

Trevenant had an absolute chokehold on the released sprites, i wonder if Goo's gonna match it up

[craggy lynx]

probably not

[wraith gazelle]

now we need tynamo family

[lusty oxide]

Still holding out for audino

[hexed agate]

croagunk or bust

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-croagunk-king-throne-gif-16367260035413576996

[lusty oxide]

Bust it is then

[terse fable]

I laughed

[lusty oxide]

If the datamine is to be believed we only have 4 slots…

[violet current]

ive heard 3

[lusty oxide]

Oh yeah alien jellyfish so forgettable

[terse fable]

I've heard 2

[lusty oxide]

Only three left then…

[violet current]

id be down for croagunk tho

[hexed agate]

[violet current]

cool pokemon, cool shiny

[lusty oxide]

I’d be sideways for croagunk

[regal vault]

How many pokemon are left now?

[terse fable]

Really I'm thinking Bruxish and wurmple line

[terse fable]

7, 3 if you count leaks

[craggy lynx]

I genuinely doubt that Palossand of all things is a community vote, since when did people liked the literal sand castle?

(if the datamine is true)

[lusty oxide]

Idk do people like the space jellyfish at all

[craggy lynx]

Ultra beasts are more liked than the sandcastle pokemon, so yeah

[lusty oxide]

Most forgettable ultra beast

[terse fable]

I mean everyone likes at least one pokemon, no matter how horrible it may be to someone else

[regal vault]

I hope the regis win

[terse fable]

The Regi's should already be in the game, not even taking slots up if we're being real

[craggy lynx]

hell even the literal trash pokemon has more fans than the sand castle one

[naive cobalt]

a lot of people do

[violet current]

i love pallosand, i voted it a 3

[sullen elbow]

People like palossand

[lusty oxide]

I feel like more people would like pallosand than the alien jellyfish

[terse fable]

Sandcastle mons are a big yes for me

[craggy lynx]

Pallosand is kind of whatever to me, i don't hate it, nor do i really love it

can't remember what i gave, maybe a 2

[naive cobalt]

Yeah but Tbf I have no idea how most of the vote picks managed to get in

[cloud pond]

people remember passlosand ?????

[terse fable]

I don't think I even played the game Pallosand is in, I just think the fusion potential is pretty good

[cloud pond]

its sig move shore up and ability water compaction is neat ig but like

water compaction doesnt even grant water immunity

its useless 90% of the time

[naive cobalt]

water compaction defense boost is really useful against surging strikes which hits three times

[cloud pond]

AND ??????

[spiral island]

Aww, yeah! Goodra’s in the house! 😄

[cloud pond]

IT ALWAYS CRITS BRO

[spiral island]

You bet I do :p

[naive cobalt]

Yes that’s the joke

[violet current]

not all of em have to be top tier picks

the cool fusion ideas alone are enough to justify it to me

[spiral island]

Based

[cloud pond]

to me all sandygast and palossand were good for was a long discussion when it was annonced at the revelation that there was a sandcastle pokemon

[spiral island]

Frankly, I could just fuse Goodra with a powerful Steel type to make ‘em practically invincible once it’s added to the game. But, I wanna try Ghost Goodra 👻

[cloud pond]

i would rly like a mismagius/goodra tbh

[violet current]

lord

[cloud pond]

since alot of mismagius fusions r rly good

[violet current]

thatd be so real, witch dragon

[spiral island]

Yeahhhh 😄

[mystic crystal]

I mean judging by the Goomy lines dex numbers being very specific; my guess is the remaining slots will be 2 two-stage lines (one of which will probably be ||Sandygast ||if the leaks are true), then three legendaries/Mythicals - that makes sense for ordering the reveals

[violet current]

2 legendaries have been leaked so that lines up yeah

the third will prob be zygarde

[mystic crystal]

that means we really only have one reveal that's not a legendary left, and it better be a fighting type I swear

[violet current]

im hoping lurantis

i think itd be silly to skip out on dhelmise but it doesnt seem likely unless its a staff pick tbh

[brisk vessel]

People are already regretting goomy getting added

[terse fable]

Goomy is hype

[lusty oxide]

Yup absolutely

[ionic gull]

These are both poll winners yeah?

[violet current]

its cringe to complain abt the goodra line

[prime dust]

yes, carvanha/sharpedo
and the goomy line are all poll winners

[violet current]

its just a silly slug dragon

[ionic gull]

Deserved

[prime dust]

we may still get a few staff extras, but it is unknown at this moment, the slots to fill grow dim; especially given we have datamined mons that "might" be taking some of those slots up

technically, we have 7 spots left from the poll votes; with 4 of those being up in the air thanks to the datamine:
||Sandyghast/Pallosand, Necrozma, ???||

[ebon glacier]

Those 4 might be staff picks

[alpine rune]

So what we cooking tonight?

[clever atlas]

The dogs in question

[prime dust]

that's why i consider them limboed for the time being, until we get confirmation, i don't count them for either

[silent acorn]

That would be pretty good honestly, pallosand is a free inspiration pokemon and necrozma is just one singular slot without the other 4

I had a nighmare with noivern yesterday, that I was in a place where people would not shup up about how cool noivern was and every other pokemon sucking, this vote is driving me mad

[clever atlas]

Noivern is cool, that bit's true

[craggy lynx]

Seems like Noivern isn't gonna make it in unfortunately

[clever atlas]

But most other options from the vote don't suck
Especially not my bois

[silent acorn]

Yeah but I am talking every single individual within that dream, and if I asked for anything else except noivern they would be like nuh uh those are horrible, like if I ask gogoat or lycanroc

[clever atlas]

Yeah ok i understand the nightmare status

[silent acorn]

If I asked like Toxicroak, meloetta, Lilligant, Golisopod, any legend, the people would be like NO THE DRAGON MUST BE IN

[clever atlas]

You literally can't know tho

[silent acorn]

Not even goodra gave me nighmares lol

[silent acorn]

Wouldn't be that negative to be honest

[craggy lynx]

Yeah, but still, kind of a shame, but oh well it is what it is

[clever atlas]

Watch noivern be the next reveal and then you could brag about predicting the future

[silent acorn]

I think it's more of a shame Toxicroak or pangoro don't get in, I think it's more sad that lycanroc don't get in, I think it's unfortunate golisopod doesn't get in

[sturdy breach]

Future predicting nightmares sound so undesirable

[terse fable]

Did someone say Guzzlord

[silent acorn]

Didn't happen with goodra, it would have to be something particurarly undesirable

[craggy lynx]

I'm surprised that Golisopod isn't gonna get in, like i recall this mon getting a lot of praise in the early beginnings, what happened to the Golisopod fans?

[clever atlas]

Nah

[terse fable]

Ok

[silent acorn]

Probably not much people just aren't vocal but the love is there

[brisk vessel]

The Monkeys

[sturdy breach]

The fireflies

[silent acorn]

To be honest I find the inclusion of the monkes at the point of the 4 slots more of a hack for more mons

[sturdy breach]

that one frickin fish 🙂

[brisk vessel]

I have a feeling that 450 will be a staff pick and it will be Bruxish

[craggy lynx]

that would be so fucking funny to be honest, after all this time, Bruxish is the one that gets in, not Golisopod, not Lycanroc, not Toxicroak, but Bruxish

[brisk vessel]

With the slots we have left we're gonna end on 449

So a 450th will be needed

[sturdy breach]

At that point, give it to Meloetta

[brisk vessel]

I just hope Meloetta is one of the 447-449

[alpine rune]

🔫

[brisk vessel]

Its my one wish

[alpine rune]

I kinda want Golispod still

[brisk vessel]

Anyways my goodra alt sprite got nuked so that was pretty funny

[alpine rune]

I want the cool gyarados Bug

[silent acorn]

Bruxsish would still be decent for gameplay to be honest. Removing priority entirely and letting you psychic bite the enemy is not that bad

[craggy lynx]

It would be more funny knowing that at one point in the early beginnings of the voting session, it was shown that Bruxish was the top 3 least voted mons

[alpine rune]

which lol?

[brisk vessel]

(this isn't the alt)

[silent acorn]

Aw this is cute

[clever atlas]

Adorable

[silent acorn]

This is actually a very innocent Sprite compared to every other tomboy Sprite gardevoir has

[brisk vessel]

The one with different colors got nuked to hell

[clever atlas]

True

[alpine rune]

Ive come to resent gardevoir for how popular it is

[brisk vessel]

Fair

I only made this sprite cuz of a bet

[alpine rune]

lol

[terse fable]

Gardevoir more like
Gardesnore amirite

[alpine rune]

I need to finish my sharpedo fusion too. I kinda want a hit on the contest

[brisk vessel]

I hope meloetta gets in I prefer it way more than the voir

[clever atlas]

Have you considered

[violet current]

i want just rockruff in

[alpine rune]

FNAF 4 animatronic looking Ass

[violet current]

doesnt evolve. you are stuck with the pupy.

[lusty oxide]

It’s nightmare genesect

[brisk vessel]

Its a shame there isn't a shark animatronic to reference

[silent acorn]

Gardevoir gets most Sprites cuz it's one of the only mons with the feminine appeal, like lopunny is second on that, and then there is Jynx which has the low and Miltank is just the ugliest

[alpine rune]

I dont like making references tbh

Maybe its just me

[clever atlas]

There's the croc
That's the closest

[craggy lynx]

wait really? I'm surprised that they haven't made a shark animatronic

[brisk vessel]

Ok but that's krookodile

[alpine rune]

I'm too used at making OCs so trying to copy others work feels like off for me even if they let me to do so

[violet current]

this why we need more varied options, lurantis sweep for girlboss fusions

[brisk vessel]

I only make reference sprites but I add my own twist to make them actually look like fusions

[alpine rune]

Ive made Kiwis daughter alt for phantump

[silent acorn]

Lurantis, Lilligant, meloetta, Diancie, Salazzle and maractus to a lesser extend all fix that issue, but like... People want the damn cool dragon when not only do we have a T rex, but we also have the wyvern, the snail, the axe, the hydra, the seahorse, the classic dragon, etc

[violet current]

id be fine with all of those other than meloetta and diancie tbh

[brisk vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/641658156790972426/947961658377109574/49C179BD-8901-458C-8377-3427E12FC876.gif

[silent acorn]

We agree on that I guess. Diancie could make some pretty pokemon

[violet current]

the less legends/mythicals the better, and i used to be a big meloetta fan but 90% of the sprites i saw i was not a fan of so id be more happy with diancie for cool gem fusions

i just want more girly mons tbh, ive already got froslass so thats a huge dub for me

my fav thing to do is collect a team of cute feminine pokemon and slap a legendary on them so they become unstoppable beasts

[brisk vessel]

Based on how the dex is being numbered
447-449 are most likely Legendaries and Mythicals

Since Pseudos always come before legendaries so we may have at least 3

[prime dust]

you are a rarity, i've seen quite a few posts; especially tierlists, that put the "girly" mons down low on the list because they aren't really interesting

[silent acorn]

Magical girl transformation

[terse fable]

Honestly, fair take and reasoning to have for more human-like mons, more representation is always good

[alpine rune]

I just want gameplay variety tbh. No more hail setters it seems

[silent acorn]

The thing for me it's that I don't trust anyone enough to just vote the same thing as me only so I vote for other mons to increase the chance of getting a girly mon, you get several votes after all

[violet current]

i like doing themed playthroughs of infinite fusion, currently im doing a run with only machamp fusions named after wrestlers i like

so im always hoping for more mons for the girls night run

[violet pawn]

Just saw that goodra got in, awesome

[violet current]

i love goodra so much

one of the first shinies i ever got, and its still one of my favs

[silent acorn]

To tell you the truth i know it's not the prettiest but Jynx counts as a girl and so does lapras and Roserade and they have some pretty nifty feminine fusions

Actually you can do the run with frosslass now so I think that helps

[violet current]

yea lapras one of my go tos for feminine pokemon, such an elegant creature

[silent acorn]

Feminine doesn't have to mean sexy, cute or adorable, it can just mean refined and elegant

[violet current]

mhm! femininity is a lot of things

[silent acorn]

I always digged this one for Jynx early game in classic or modern, pretty normal except for lips lol

Like you can make most mons pretty just that you need the right combo to have the effect

Miltank I said ugly because no matter what you fused it with will always come back weird

Seriously did they like watch barn animals to make that?

[terse fable]

I like miltank sprites, they're at the very least iconic and memorable lol

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/barnyard-otis-pig-pup-cow-and-pig-gif-18376531

[sturdy breach]

There were some pretty decent Miltank ones, but aegide being down does not help with quickly finding them 🙂

[silent acorn]

I will say the guy who made seaking blaziken tried his hardest but like Miltank is beyond salvation

[sturdy breach]

Oh wait, I just didn't use this other one correctly

[alpine rune]

now the question is, is otis a bull or a cow?

[silent acorn]

this one with blastoise is pretty good

[sturdy breach]

I don't dislike the Miltank/Fearow one either

[silent acorn]

Those are questions my friend those are questions

i dont know what to make of this

[sturdy breach]

Primeape one is also pretty funny tbh

I actually love this one

[terse fable]

Like I said, I like Miltank sprites they're cool, even the cursed ones lol

[sturdy breach]

There's a LOT that I hate

Like Machamp, wtf

[terse fable]

Don't be hating 😂

[sturdy breach]

Hell yeah I will be 😄

[plush pilot]

Miltank fusions don't deserve hate ngl

[terse fable]

That's a from me

[lusty oxide]

It’s the lactose intolerant trying to sabotage the miltank fusions

[oblique sigil]

congrats to the goodra and sharpedo lines

[fair canopy]

How many reveals are left?

[brisk vessel]

7

[craggy lynx]

7

Assuming that there will be no more staff picks

[fair canopy]

Did they mention a deadline for the announcements? I'm a bit behind on all of this but SO excited

[sharp nebula]

.

[sand mica]

What about the Skuntank sprites?

[violet pawn]

there are 7 remaining slots, but there are probably just 3 to 4 reveals left

[terse fable]

Skun who?

[lusty oxide]

What Pokémon is that?

[restive arrow]

it's ice type magikarp

[civic harness]

Awesome

[lusty oxide]

What about fairy type hoppip?

[clever atlas]

Rocc dog

[lusty oxide]

Cute creature

I want it in IF

[marsh folio]

Ok after seeing the sprite gallery I have changed my mind on sharpedo excellent addition

[terse fable]

I knew sharpedo was going to make great sprites, people just immediately yell "eh it's like Garchomp" when there's various differences you can make when it comes to fusion sprites

[pale flame]

Thoughts on Goodra?

[terse fable]

I like, good addition in my book

[lusty oxide]

It’s a slug dragon

[terse fable]

Although I wouldn't say people don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to not being happy about Goodra, 3 slots is a big hit if none of the mons you've been wanting have made it in yet

[lusty oxide]

Goodra is truly one of the additions of the vote

[buoyant herald]

What is its type?

[lean lily]

Pure dragon.

The Goodra line was my favorite to get in. I love it gameplay-wise and I love the silly design.

[lusty oxide]

I want bouffalant so we can get an ohio type

[buoyant herald]

What?

[lean lily]

Reference to Alpharad's latest video. He played a mod of Pokemon with a bunch of extra types.

One of those is Ohio. Bouffalant is an Ohio type.

[lusty oxide]

Maybe we can get a sus type in with amoongus

Or gulpin for a deez nuts type

[hushed mantle]

Kmp

[prime dust]

they won't add new types, the weirdest thing they've done so far is swap typing for Phantump/Trevanant

[sullen elbow]

You know what a joke is?

[lusty oxide]

Clearly not

[meager python]

I still dont know why hes not ohio fluffy

[lean lily]

Me neither.

[lusty oxide]

If hair why no fluffy type?

[silent acorn]

Precisely it's a pretty huge smash lol

Like 3 slots for one less 2 stage line is a bit sucky, but we could still have one stage thing maybe necrozma is the one stage thing

Something I think it's pretty cool for necrozma is that we get the addition of the word necro as a naming thing

Necrozard, necrodra (goodra), necroken, necroape. Pretty edgy and cool

With goodra is think it's goo on everything righht?

Mr. Goo, Goonx, Goosect (), Goolosion, Goosey, Gooblim (), Goorret, Goopass, Gooeon (most eeveelution lol), Goolga, Goolkia, Gootina, Goovoir, Goopras, Goolem (I heard you like goo on your golem so I put more goo), Gooram, Gookron and Goorem is so simple i like it

Ok never put muk and goodra together is a bad idea

[cyan hare]

hmmmm

STILL NO DHELMISE AND THERE ARE 4 SPOTS LEFT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[silent acorn]

Write the fusion name of goodra head and muk body and see what happens

[short garden]

holy crap grubbin is a pikmin enemy

[cyan hare]

please god give me dhelmise

for the love of christ I only ask for one thing

[sterile spoke]

Let's not do this on account of Rule 2.

[white meadow]

Gootina

[cyan hare]

i was kidding tho

[silent acorn]

Hahaha ha yeah I found out that somehow breaks rule 2

[violet pawn]

oh yeah, you told us to remind you to update the pinned message with all the new mons being added

[sterile spoke]

I did, thanks for the reminder! 🙂

[violet pawn]

np

[silent acorn]

Right that's true we didn't remember to ping you over the new ones sorry about that

[craggy lynx]

I will kinda miss this channel once it gets locked, since the channel description says that it's a "temporary channel"

[lusty oxide]

Yeah I’m gonna miss this channel

[trail hull]

Me too

[lusty oxide]

[craggy lynx]

Doomsday is getting close for this channel

It's so pokeover once doomsday is here

[trail hull]

Sadly

[sterile spoke]

You don't need to apologise over it. 😅

[weary wing]

Still sticking it out for Avalugg 🤞 (I am delusional)

[lusty oxide]

Im delusional for audino

[weary wing]

Audino is so cute, especially their mega

[crude garden]

Suggestion: make this channel permanent

[weary wing]

Imagine Avalugg/Blissey fusion

[lusty oxide]

Imagine if avalugg was even weaker to physical attacks

[prime dust]

but strangley effective against steel types

[crude garden]

Why does fusion bot know goomy exists but not yanmega?

[muted spindle]

HOLY FRIGGIN GOD DANG-

WHY DIDNT YALL PING ME GOODRA GOT IN

[violet pawn]

yes

[muted spindle]

THE TIME FOR MY BABY HAS COME, SHE IS ALIIIVE

well crap now i gotta halt ALL progress on my Trevenant fusions, I gotta sprite this rIGHT NOW

[silent acorn]

You dont show up all the time

[silent acorn]

Doesnt participate in contest my dude

[muted spindle]

i was in hibernation

[silent acorn]

Trevenant and sharpedo have contest still

[muted spindle]

I aint worried about contests I'm just excited the goopy boi is here

[silent acorn]

Well I mean if goodra is all you wanted go ahead and make them Sprites

[plush bough]

So 5 more slots filled 🙈 now 7 left?

[pale osprey]

yup 7 left

[plush bough]

So either 2 tripple lines and a single or 3 double and a single or any other possible mix 🤔 so still a chance that Salandit and Salazzle make it 🙈

2 doubles and a tripple would also work xD

[thorny ferry]

Or 7 singles (which I really doubt would happen)

[tepid jungle]

Me am so happy

[terse fable]

If you think positively, that's 7 chances of Bruxish

[thorny ferry]

6 bruxishes and a feebas dressed as a bruxish

[last pecan]

my bets are 1 single 3 doubles

[naive cobalt]

My bet is 6 monkeys and 1 bruxish

[alpine rune]

Is Meloetta a single, or a double?

[pale osprey]

single

[alpine rune]

But it has 2 forms

[pale osprey]

but we didnt know when we voted, ill be mad if it counts as double

[tame nebula]

"Erm actually in the Fazbear Frights Books there is a scrapped story called Felix the Shark with the titular shark animatronic on the cover" 🤓

[alpine rune]

Oricorio is a quad

[pale osprey]

and is a staff pick

[violet pawn]

alt forms do not count for slots, oricorio is just 1 slot despite having 4 forms

[alpine rune]

But they have different pokedex numbers

[violet pawn]

i mean it is a staff pick but whatever, they don't count as multiple slots

[violet pawn]

that's just how the game is coded

[pale osprey]

they already are doing more than 20, its not a hard 20

[ruby breach]

Or we get screwed by the quadruple cosmog line

[alpine rune]

Yes so... 2 slots basically means 2 Pokedex numbers

[pale osprey]

when we voted we voted thinking it was 1, if they do plan to put them both in, it will be a freebie

[alpine rune]

If it's a 1 slot, 1 Pokedex number, and we're limiting them to 450 ish here

[violet pawn]

no, two slots means two pokemon

[alpine rune]

So you mean I still get zygarde for 1 slot even though it will be like 5 Pokedex numbers?

[violet pawn]

yeah

[pale osprey]

if they put all the forms in. (which i doubt they will)

well the dev did say progress was going along fine so maybe he has time to put them all in but that seems excessive

[alpine rune]

So you mean I can just fuck all the slots since the max capacity of the game is only 450 mons aka 450 Pokedex numbers? I mean there's still 6 slots left but can't fit any more Pokedex numbers

[pale osprey]

where did you hear the max capacity is 450, was this confirmed by the dev himself as a hard cap?

[violet pawn]

who told you the max capacity is 450?

[drowsy elm]

The limit isn't really in how much space there is atm it's more time right now

He could technically add a lot more mons but it'd be a very long process, hence why he isn't adding every mon

[pale osprey]

every new mon adds to the combination total, it probably has to take into account that, each combination is a dex slot

[alpine rune]

Frog said 440 is already a stretch, let alone 450. Adding more would require more compression. He did compress the moves to be more dynamic instead of prewritten in the code.

[spice sage]

There's really no technical limit for the number of Pokémon anymore, but yeah adding new Pokémon is still a lot of effort

[drowsy elm]

^literal dev note

[pale osprey]

pin this

[violet pawn]

I was gonna explain how you changed the code but I guess that isn't needed anymore😅

[pale osprey]

also can you confirm if you will retroactively increase the count for what we expected to be one slot into all their forms in the 20? like if we voted for ruff thinking it was 2 slots but it will now be 4, or zygarde being like 5 slots

I dont remember if this was ever explicitly denied (or confirmed)

[drowsy elm]

That Is a good question

[spice sage]

Pokemon with forms still count as just 1 slot

[pale osprey]

ok double pin this

[deep delta]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[spice sage]

As far as the poll is concerned (ingame they'll have their own dex number like the oricorio forms)

[pale osprey]

yep that we know, ty so much for all your work

[deep delta]

Yes, thank you

[drowsy elm]

Perfect! Thank you frog man, all hail frog man, now my meloetta propaganda shall continue

[pale osprey]

oh yea will you plan to release the poll numbers once the reveals are done? i think it will be extremely interesting to know them

[terse fable]

Just saw Frogman bless us, we love Frog here

[white meadow]

Lovely to hear

I want a Frogman encounter with a Seismitoad and a Chatot

[sharp nebula]

haxorus' type in this mod is very interesting

[fallen loom]

how can ||Goodra's Hissuian version be an alt sprite if it's a Dragon/Steel Type?||

[white meadow]

dragon rock?

isn't it steel?

[fallen loom]

they said it could be an alt sprite, but it's not pure Dragon

[terse fable]

It's just not going to be dragon/steel than I imagine

[pale osprey]

i mean some other alt sprites dont change typings, like rotoms

its just used as a base for fusions

[fallen loom]

so Goodra + Steelix could be the H alt?

[terse fable]

They could make one

[pale osprey]

lmao scroll screelix up to a shell and put it on his back 10/10 idea

that would be funny, its a good idea, idk if it will fly as the main sprite cuz there are rules but i like it as a side one

[plush bough]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-salazzle-jazz-hands-gif-23852140

[gloomy lagoon]

.

[grave jolt]

Morning all, how's the discussion?

[prime dust]

it is discussing

[terse fable]

Had some fun news from the Frogman earlier now everyone's happy I guess lol

[violet pawn]

well, not even really news. all of it had been said before

[terse fable]

Yea true, but more up to date now

[fallen loom]

Theory: 440-443 could be the Cosmog line, since it's the only 4 member branched line that can fit

[terse fable]

I'm still going off my fan theory thay after all the announcements are done and some time passes, we'll get another poll for 20 more mons

[grave jolt]

Theory: Walrein, Pachirisu, and Deerling.

[fallen loom]

They're more likely to add in Gen 8+9 evos

[prime dust]

they won't

[terse fable]

That's more unlikely lol

[grave jolt]

gen 8+9 requires a new engine.

[fallen loom]

not all of them