pif-hoenn-discussion

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/ninjask-pooemon-ninjask-pokémon-ninjask-giga-drain-pokémon-giga-drain-gif-26166854

[sterile verge]

https://tenor.com/view/castform-gif-26745714

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/hail-yeah-michael-groth-mandjtv-wordplay-heck-yeah-gif-17354817

[marsh lily]

I will die on that hill.

[hexed barn]

IF KOMMO-O IS NOT ADDED I AM GOING TO CRY. THAT IS ALL

[raw bison]

Did on that hill or die under that heel, eyyy?

[alpine rune]

start saving up those tears

You wont get disappointed if you expect disappointing results

[stone cliff]

Good thing I don't have to prepare for my favorite to not get in because obviously Altaria will make it

[hexed agate]

based

[brisk vessel]

omj opila bird 😁 (they told me to vote for Tsareena)

[marsh lily]

Steenee's awesome, though. Vote for Steenee.

[proper schooner]

Votings over

And no, steenee sucks. Even if we wanted another plant girl pokemon there's lilligant right there which is way better and is one less slot

[marsh lily]

It's hard being epic in a world of agony.

[untold reef]

noooo dont kick the espurr

[viscid mica]

im gonna punt it

[dusty arrow]

well if it isnt sussy jack

[vapid tundra]

i for one, voted for both Tsareena and Goodra.

https://tenor.com/view/goodra-pokemon-dancing-cute-raining-gif-17795953

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/regice-regirock-registeel-running-run-gif-16398635

[vapid tundra]

look out, regi-gang! it's a fighting type!

[white meadow]

Tomorrow we get a new mon

[ancient falcon]

[vapid tundra]

[marsh lily]

please be gulpin

or bruxish

or

[hexed agate]

yikes

[marsh lily]

This was, of course, satire.

[hexed agate]

good.

[marsh lily]

Even if I find gulpin and swallot quite comical.

[hexed agate]

I find them meh

[tame flax]

or today, reveals have been on fridays too

[white meadow]

why is not combed in ghe game???

combee

[tame flax]

So long as there aren't honey trees added too

I genuinely think vespiquen is a fun mon and would make great fusions

[alpine rune]

kiwi said it was a one time thing because she was busy during saturday

so regular schedule is still saturday

[tame flax]

ah

[clever atlas]

As always, i hope it's either dog or lobter

[alpine rune]

I hope is ice dino

[sharp nebula]

i just want little music lady

[hexed agate]

Lando-T please, I need a meta for this game

[alpine rune]

The meta is Tera Electric Air balloon shedinja

[brisk vessel]

Same fr fr

[alpine rune]

Or just Bug/Steel Sedinja

[brisk vessel]

Moody isn't banned in this game
Glaliesweep

[sharp nebula]

or huge power slaking

[hexed agate]

That requires ability manipulation, since usually azumarill will default to sap sipper on fusions

True, I want Ursaluna

[brisk vessel]

If you want meta just go with OU KING FOR 13 YEARS TYRANITAR

[hexed agate]

You mean RU lad Ttar?

[hexed agate]

Also Gengar was OU for a long time too

[brisk vessel]

Not anymore

[hexed agate]

RUBL

[brisk vessel]

Tyranitar is getting Knock Off we are Tyraniback

[alpine rune]

Pursuit ttar baby

[hexed agate]

We are Tyrani- CC

[brisk vessel]

Tusk isn't in this game it's fine

[sharp nebula]

who cares about the current meta, gen 3 meta is where its at

[hexed agate]

If only

[alpine rune]

yep, IF only

[brisk vessel]

Also ttar still has pursuit in PIF anyway

[alpine rune]

Infinite Fusions only

[brisk vessel]

So we are still talking OU KING

[hexed agate]

Chansey gaming

[brisk vessel]

Oh yeah Lando might fall to UU/UUBL

(the T in Landorus-T stands for Tusk)

[hexed agate]

The T stands for Tintimidate

[brisk vessel]

The salamence in my back pocket

[hexed agate]

You mean ice weakness number 2

[brisk vessel]

Tbf both of them are quad weak to ice

[hexed agate]

True, but one of them goes defensive and still hurts

[alpine rune]

The T in Landorous-T stands for "Tdoubles meta"

[hexed agate]

Also they both lose to king Gliscor

[brisk vessel]

Gliscorsweep

[hexed agate]

Also Garchomp

Why TF is half of OU weak to ice- oh wait, they banned Mega Weavile

[brisk vessel]

Garchomp gets Scale Shot in Gen 9 we're so backchomp

[violet current]

the scarf ice beamers in question

[brisk vessel]

That's one of the main reasons they banned The Pao lol

[violet current]

thats why i play in game ladder and uu exclusively

[hexed agate]

Laughs in Ferro

[vapid tundra]

if Clawnchair gets in, this will increase the number of gun fusion bases by 2

[hexed agate]

I am RU gaming

[sterile spoke]

Weavile got super nerfed in SV. 😢

Though this is all more fitting for our newly-reopened #pokemon-winds-waves. 😉

[brisk vessel]

It gets Knock Off again it's fine now

[hexed agate]

Duraludon would be hype, Ttar+it for the Pokéstar animatronic

[violet current]

gen 9 uu is so ridiculously overtuned

[brisk vessel]

This Gen's UU is looking like this Gen's OU

[sterile spoke]

[brisk vessel]

To stay on topic

If Meloetta learned Boomburst how would this affect the metagame

[hexed agate]

Not much lol, I'd rather get Exploud or Noivern for that

[sharp nebula]

it probably wouldnt...

[hexed agate]

Oooh or Swellow

[vapid tundra]

honestly hope goomy line makes it in, for a new source of Sap Sipper to gift to other mons through fusion

[hexed agate]

laughs in azumarill

[vapid tundra]

we have water flavored, now in Dragon* flavored!

*still legally water flavored, snail Dragon

[brisk vessel]

Y'all underestimate what a good nuking move could do for a mon

Boomburst is what made Exploud even remotely viable in the first place

So give it to a mon with actually good stats and it's gonna ruin a lot of people's days

(UU at best)

[vapid tundra]

i dont care if your Slacking knows Vcreate; i'm not taking it to prom.

[surreal chasm]

How would Empoleon fighting his addiction with alcoholism affect OU

[vapid tundra]

Truancy is a Crime.

[brisk vessel]

He stops being defiant and gains a competitive spirit
(UU at best)

[tame flax]

Gogoat

[vapid tundra]

Gogo Gadget Goat!

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-noivern-cool-power-gif-15877052

[brisk vessel]

If only it was STAB

[vapid tundra]

the Goodra Googoat has me sold, homeskillet.

[silent acorn]

Hehehhe the bruxsish gogoat

Tomorrow... Possible end of the world scheduled

Honestly so impossible to know whats in and what isn't, so far many of the picks have been regular pokemon I Wonder what will be next

Well I got froslass it's not like the universe if gonna give me another badass pokemon consecutively

[brisk vessel]

Inb4 bruxish

[tiny condor]

Bruxish is probably gonna get in via staff just to cause a minuscule amount of mischief

[silent acorn]

Wouldn't be that bad honestly, much worse could do worse for a staff pick

[lusty oxide]

Keeping the trolling to a bare minimum

[silent acorn]

They could just pick goodra

[lusty oxide]

Goodra is probably getting in via vote

[sturdy breach]

I don't care how it gets in, I just want it in 🙂

[silent acorn]

||reverse logic||

I have no idea, it both has a big chance and not, I just know that if noivern or goodra get in I wouldn't want the other because would be redundant and dragons would take like 5 spots, so either goodra or noivern, having both would be sucky

[lusty oxide]

I just want leavanny and audino

[silent acorn]

I mean... Atleast you are thinking variety

[lusty oxide]

(Stop bringing us chansey when I talk about audino)

[sturdy breach]

I wouldn't be mad at both Goodra and Noivern getting in, considering how vastly different they are

[silent acorn]

Although out of the two audino is sorta redundant considering we have chansey for healer tanks

I mean we already have tyrantrum, so like if noivern and goodra get in that would be like 7 dragons total

[sturdy breach]

Then again, I won't be mad at anything as long as Goodra gets in 🙂

[lusty oxide]

(Seriously it’s really annoying having too keep telling you all how they are different)

[silent acorn]

Alright fine, the bat dragon Is popular I get it

Well good thing we all get to just have different opinions though

[brisk vessel]

Same but for Melo

[silent acorn]

I want meloetta, my lilligant or salazzle.

[sturdy breach]

Also think it's silly to get hung up on types all too much.

[brisk vessel]

True

[silent acorn]

Gen 6 is just not my favorite gen of dragons to be honest

[lusty oxide]

I mean we already have one duplicate type

[silent acorn]

I Just dont like them that's all

[lusty oxide]

We legit already got 3 ghost types

[silent acorn]

Sableye froslass, but sableye is 1 and snorunt 3 and snorunt has atleast 2 ice and ice ghost on the same line

[sturdy breach]

Gen6 has some of my favourite dragon types hehe

[silent acorn]

Oh yeha.. Trevenant... Well it was more there for the grass type though

[sturdy breach]

Not that the grass type was underrepresented in PIF though

[silent acorn]

Not wrong, but also trevenant is cool and people have done good things with it

[brisk vessel]

I have made 1 sprite of it and it's an ARK reference

[silent acorn]

Its just the multivote allows to you to support different mons thing I did with trevenant by giving it just a 3

[sturdy breach]

Sure, hence why I said that types don't really matter

There's still more grass types I want to see come to the game, more dragon types

[silent acorn]

Its not so much the type more like the slots, since you we put aside lots of 3 stages over the slots. I didn't make exceptions on that, so I didn't give much support to goodra. Then again I just thought "Eh people are gonna still vote for it they don't need me"

Like I was scared for froslass to get shafted

Over being linked with glalie and snorunt like they are

I dont think Goodra sucks, it's just not for me

[vapid tundra]

I voted for designs and abilities, typing doesn't really matter when you can fuse two dragons together and end up with a water/fire type due to dual typings.

[white meadow]

Aurorus/Noivern Ice type boomburst aka it can also be super effective

[brisk vessel]

That's assuming they both get in

[lusty oxide]

Or sylveon noivern fairy type boomburst

[white meadow]

And?

[lusty oxide]

What and?

[white meadow]

No I meant eggoverlord

The faces of Genocide

[sturdy breach]

Now I'm sad there's no Primarina for a water-type boomburst 🙂

[buoyant herald]

Bats are so cute

[sturdy breach]

Luckily you can already achieve a fairy type boomburst rn right?

[brisk vessel]

Why is noivern the body if it's a special attacker

[sturdy breach]

Both Aurorus and Sylveon are also Special Attackers though 🙂

[brisk vessel]

They're more specially bulky than specially offensive but fair

[sturdy breach]

Both of their SpAtk is higher than Noivern's haha

99 and 110 iirc (noivern has 97)

[brisk vessel]

The lo

I still think it would be funny if singer lady got Boomburst one day so she could finally get out of NU/RU hell

[white meadow]

The other 2 are special too

[sharp nebula]

what she really needs is to be able to stay in pirouette form

or for aria to switch its spdef and speed but thatll never happen

[brisk vessel]

True

[white meadow]

If Meloetta gets its form I make the danceing Garchomp

[lusty oxide]

I think audino isn’t for everyone but i like it

I like it a LOT

It’s my second favourite normal type along with indeedee

[prime dust]

break dancing garchomp

like 90s rapper wearing baggy clothes break dancer

[golden lintel]

Meloetta + voltorb should just be a disco ball

[marsh lily]

I've got nothing.

I can't think of a single fully circular singing monster.

THUMPIES.

[silent acorn]

You know its actually fun to discuss what you could make with the vote mons

Since goodra seems to have a nice chance I'll use it. Hmmmm. How about muk on goodra, do you make Muodra? Is it like extra sticky sludge?

[terse fable]

I was thinking Meloetta and Garvantula (think that's the name?) Could make Disco Long Legs from Pikmin 4

[short garden]

The sprite has a bottle around it bc it can’t stand on its own, it’s a liquid

[short garden]

Groovy Long Legs? Seems like a Ludicolo fusion

[terse fable]

This comment sparked the thought obviously lol

[terse fable]

Or ludicolo yea!

[short garden]

Ludicolo / Galvantula could be the one

[hexed agate]

I want Ludicolo, he does a silly jig

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/so-many-pikmin-lost-groovy-long-legs-pikmin-4-51-of-my-pikmin-died-pikmin-gif-13532973416997207051

I don’t play pikmin but I still love the series

[terse fable]

God that game slaps, but yea Ludicolo is the funny dancing guy I want him

[silent acorn]

Huh... Just realized there is a boss named goolix in this games. So if you fuse Goodra and steelix you would get Goolix right?

Hm. Does goodra times steelix make huge snail?

[terse fable]

Oohh that's such a good point, 100% Goolix can be an alt

[silent acorn]

I mean if I can't beat em, might as well join em right?

But yeah there ya, goolix in pokemon

[tame flax]

You could also join slurpuff

[silent acorn]

I mean what gets in gets in, so might as well start theorizing what you can make with them

[tame flax]

Honestly I don't see goodra making the cut

[hexed agate]

I'd figure Gourgeist for spooky month

[silent acorn]

I would like to deny it but people do have it on the top side of opinion

[tame flax]

How many times have people who have seen the poll said that this channels opinion doesn't reflect it?

[outer matrix]

Wouldn't trevanent fit that role already considering the current team rush event?

[tame flax]

There were people actively hating tyrantrum before his reveal, with no real support

[silent acorn]

What I was thinking yeah

[tame flax]

This isn't hidden knowledge, why is it always forgotten?

[hexed agate]

Why not both? They compliment each other

[silent acorn]

Actually, you can be vocal about tyrantrum but intrinsically is still a trex so in the subconscious mind you think, "I wouldn't mind that one"

[tame flax]

Then consider this, if goodra were as popular as the propaganda suggests, why wasn't he the 2nd reveal?

Or the third? As much propaganda as there was you really gonna say losing to glalie is reflective of this channel?

[outer matrix]

True as both fit the spooky month theme
Lots of ideas for gourgeist fusions where the Pokémon is carved into the pumpkin (like pumpkin art)

[terse fable]

Is the order of reveal reflecting of what was voted highest? Have they actually said that?

Cause I dunno lol

[tame flax]

When those two were revealed the poll was still active

[terse fable]

Okay then wasn't sure

[tame flax]

Going with the highest in an active poll just makes the most sense

Now they can do it in any order, but might continue in order for consistency

[terse fable]

I would think, it's not thay crazy to think they'd save the big reveals for the end though, just not sure if that's the route they're taking based on what you said

[tame flax]

Oricorio was a bigger reveal than any other mon on the list just because of the implications and it was a few weeks ago

[clever atlas]

Remember, D O G (and L O B T E R)

[terse fable]

I do like the ol lobsterino

[tame flax]

Sure oricorio was a staff pick, but revealing that forms will be their own mons now is a massive change

[silent acorn]

I could just say that they were randomly revealing them, and that there was no plan except trevenant

[tame flax]

Think of all the mons that will need reallocated fusion sprites

[outer matrix]

The sepreate forms for oricorio was probably just for right now I think

[terse fable]

I loved the Oricorio reveal, not sure if that was the general consensus though

[tame flax]

And they're also going to go back and make forms for all existing mons with forms

[silent acorn]

Probably not considering we were all thinking the best picks and oricorio was among them before the reveal

[tame flax]

It was more so that for a few days, minimal communication created the thought that forms took slots

[outer matrix]

But I don't think that galarian, hisuian nor paldean regionals will get in due to the game only including Pokémon prior to Gen 8

[silent acorn]

Well... They haven't added alolan forms either

[frosty dagger]

Knowing it was a staff pick and not from the vote I'm perfectly fine with oricorio being in

[tame flax]

Lycanroc

[silent acorn]

I mean we only knew they were staff until almost the full end of the votes

[tame flax]

Forms is more than regional variants

[silent acorn]

I Just think lycanroc is awesome

[tame flax]

Rotom, giratina, megas if they're mad enough

[silent acorn]

Was about to give it a 1, but then my dog looked at me, how can you vote lycan low when you have doggos

[tame flax]

And if forms took slots it'd be 5, thankfully it's 2

[frosty dagger]

I'm also liking some of the fusions made so far

[outer matrix]

I know that forms are more rhan regional variants, especially since Deoxys has 4 forms

[tame flax]

That's why oricorio is a big deal

They exist as separate mons now because of it

If they were saving big reveals for the end, what reveal could be bigger than that?

The only thing that could be bigger than that would be "we figured out how to fit all mons in"

[outer matrix]

Probably Legendaries or mythicals

[terse fable]

I mean, Oricorio is a big deal for fusions and the spriter side of the community, not everyone was really hyped about that reveal though, people were actively complaining after from what I remember

[tame flax]

Not really, the only one that could be bigger is necrozma, but only because of the forms announcement, without that, the form announcement on its own is still a bigger deal

[terse fable]

Even though it's not taking slots lol

[tame flax]

Yeah, because we thought this meant forms took slots and then as soon as the reveal was made the poll ended

They didn't say forms wouldn't take slots for like a day or two

That's a pretty key detail

[terse fable]

No, people were complaining KNOWING it wasn't taking slots, saying the spriters were going to he "wasting time" on Oricorio sprites now instead of what they want. I don't agree with it but some people view it that way

[outer matrix]

Wasn't wishiwashi (the fish from Gen 7) confirmed to take up two slots for its forms?

[tame flax]

I was there, it was all about the slots

[terse fable]

I was there, that wasn't the only argument lol

[tame flax]

Not that ori would be taking them, but that mons with forms would be

Do you know how many forms are in the lycanroc line?

There's 5, rock rockruff has a 2nd form just for own tempo

[terse fable]

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that even with all that information not everyone lost there minds and foamed at the mouth over the idea of Oricorio, hence why I wouldn't consider it a "big reveal", that's my take and I'm sticking to it

[tame flax]

Imagine voting for a mon assuming it would be two slots suddenly became five, and that as soon as you find that out, the poll closes

[silent acorn]

On the poll wishiwashi had both pictures I think hat means it did

[silent acorn]

Its only a big deal because of the forms reveal due to the fact that said forms would take different dex numbers. It's confusing since it's hard to tell if taking different dex numbers means the same as taking different slots

In lycanrocs case I don't complain since the forms are more than palette swaps

And they are still good for designs. If anything midnight nullifies the use of Myghtyena.

And regular quadrupedal lycanroc could still take manectric place without issues

In that case I don't mind the extra slots, since they are not all that detrimental

[terse fable]

No don't get me wrong, I do think it's a big deal! But I wouldn't consider Oricorio as a "big reveal" compared to other mons that haven't been added yet that are fan favorites, that's the point I was trying to make towards maybe they're saying some of the big, big stuff for last! I mean it's all speculation anyways lol

[silent acorn]

Nah it's not a big reveal, more like a sucker punch reveal. I know the staff did it for the sake of having variety but like they could done that one as the very first reveal, I love scolipede but revealing oricoricorio first would have been better to understand the rules on the slots

[terse fable]

Exactly this, the hopping between staff picks and community picks has made everything complicated lol

[silent acorn]

BTW realizing this just now but technically speaking darminant regular and zen Mode are usable as different pokemon

Question how did pincushion of all pokemon get in?

[terse fable]

I hope that's the case, two different forms means way more sprites to have

[silent acorn]

Yeah I Just realized that, on the games zen Mode sucks because most of the moves of darmanitan are physcal rather than special, so when zen Mode happened is like you were having an automatic nerf like from archeops

So if they were usable as separate dex numbers then you would have double the Sprites, and zen mode would actually be usable, I never realized that

Just a theory a game theory, but honestly having darmanitan work the exact same way as it does in the core games would suck because not only would the sprites freak out you would still have the nerf and possibly the nerf would be even worse as the stats of darmanitan would be all over the place with the fusion

Here is a cool build idea, you have archeops fuse it with sylveon, have defeatist, skill swap with the enemy the ability, now slay because the enemy doesn't get stat buffs and you gotten rid of the worst ability in pokemon

this is some nonsense honestly

[brisk vessel]

Tbf the ruin abilities also affect your allies

[white meadow]

So guys: do y'all think we're getting the New Pokemon Today, or Tomorrow?

[clever atlas]

Im betting tommorow

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-trigger-devil-devil-may-cry-pokemon-regi-gif-16117342

[clever atlas]

And i hope it's one of these two

(preferrably the former tho i have priorities)

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-family-guy-playing-guitar-gif-7869755

[ionic gull]

I wonder if, in three years or so, they'll have another poll with Gen 8 or Gen 9 Pokemon

[hexed agate]

One can dream

[earnest mortar]

Hopefully Doggo or slug Dragon

[terse fable]

My top 3 I'd like to see as the next reveal: Guzzlord, Noivern, Goodra

[ebon moat]

guzzlord fusions wold go crazy

[ionic gull]

I don't think I have much of a chance for this, but I've got my fingers crossed for Drapion and Scorupi

[opaque ether]

For me:

1. Poochyena/Mightyena
2. Rockruff/Lycanroc
3. Noibat/Noivern

[frozen rover]

You know what I want

[surreal scaffold]

Tomorrow

[trim sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/vanillite-sorbebe-vanipeti-pokemon-gif-19575051

[thorny ferry]

I strongly believe the new mon will be announced today

And it's gonna be simisear

[buoyant herald]

Noiven line

[clever atlas]

Yeah, either one of these three
I would also like goodra in, I just prefer some others

[clever atlas]

Dogs

[cinder oasis]

The ruin abilities are honestly so op

Chi-yu has the highest sp. Atk out of any pokemon BC of their ability

[steep glen]

I don't understand why they gave it that ability. It's not like it has overpowered stats

[cinder oasis]

Like 567 bst is amazing but then there's pokemon that are so much better yet they don't have any drawbacks

[surreal chasm]

Sandygast tomorrow?

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[silent acorn]

Honestly Guzzlord would be the most exciting for me

[lusty oxide]

Leavanny would be lost exiting for me

[silent acorn]

I want so much and there is so little space

To be honest the only thing I need to stop being a sulky monkey is to have either meloetta, Lilligant, Salazzle or Diancie show up, I have an idea I wanna use them for, gardevoir wouldn't work for the idea

I think Diancie I could make it with lopunny, Lilligant I could make it with houndoom, Salazzle I could make it with houndoom again and meloetta houndoom too.

[plush bough]

I hope for Salazzle 🙈🙈

[frozen oyster]

Salandit>Salazzle. Love the little gremlin energy they have

[dense inlet]

salandit regional male evolution when

[plush bough]

Fuse it with Machamp xD

[dense inlet]

i mean fair

[plush bough]

That's also a cool artwork (can't find the art without card sadly) love salandits smile tho one in the front xD

[surreal chasm]

Salazzle would be amazing

Definitely one of my favorite mons

[plush bough]

Yes, fuse it with something to give her poison and some other type than fire and corrosion makes more sense xD

[frozen oyster]

Happy little gremlin

[cinder oasis]

The least exciting?

[lusty oxide]

Just noticed auto correct changed most to lost for some reason

Did I mention I hate autocorrect

[dense inlet]

i think anything human-like is higly fashionable when it comes to spriting

[frozen oyster]

I love it when autocorrect will correct words with correct spelling to entirely different ones as well

[frozen oyster]

Still hoping for Drampa, slurpuff and diggersby

[lusty oxide]

Hoping for audino

[frozen oyster]

It'd be nice if Audino got something since they took away Megas.

[half abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/buizel-sleep-sleeping-sleepy-gif-27403438

He waits to one day be awakened

[lusty oxide]

They could have easily made the mega a regular evolution

But audino is still good without it

Although eviolite audino could be good too

[frozen oyster]

Eviolite Audino would be very funny

It's already got solid bulk, so having base like, what? 110 hp and 120 defenses lol?

[silent acorn]

What was it like dark poison that was only weak to ground?

[lusty oxide]

Imagine not having defence couldn’t be me

[frozen oyster]

Sadly it's ATTACK stats are a bit lacking.

[silent acorn]

You could maybe... Fuse audino with something that has good stats on second stage and that would work?

Chansey maybe? But... Wouldn't be redundant? Like what do you get out of chansey audino fusion?

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/chansey-giovanni-gif-23936901

[frozen oyster]

Fuse Audino with Drampa for big bang so att and bulky berserk ability

[silent acorn]

CHANSEY USED ME FIRST! IT WAS SUPER EFFECTIVE

[silent acorn]

Ok that one sounds much better

[lusty oxide]

How can mega punch be super effective?

[frozen oyster]

I so badly want Drampa to get in for its design and gun ability. Slurpuff for the dessert fusions and diggersby for huge power and because it's cute

[silent acorn]

Its chansey you don't need to explain it

[frozen oyster]

Reverse battles. Those were a thing once. Like. In one game.

[silent acorn]

Ok hear me out... Audino and Hypno

[lusty oxide]

The thing is audino doesn’t suck ass on the physical side

[silent acorn]

Yeah but you could ignore that with fusing

[lusty oxide]

Yeah but you basically have to deal with all body fusions being ass

[silent acorn]

For audino? Yeah

[lusty oxide]

What how it’s defence stat isn’t 5

[silent acorn]

Could survive a bit better

Maybe if you fused with like... I dont know spiritomb so that defense is the main thing.

The thing is in head fusions you borrow special stats and speed, and for body physical and hp

[white meadow]

What about Salazzle/Spiritomb or Spiritomb/Salazzle?

One of those could be Poison/Dark

[silent acorn]

Lets just say poison dark is only second to ghost/dark or ghost/normal in terms of defense

Like having no weaknesses is a super plus in typying

[white meadow]

How so? They all only have 1 Weakness, so they should be equal

[dense inlet]

throw in a levitate

[silent acorn]

Well that's all you need, one weakness

[silent acorn]

Doing that one is a bit overkill and weezing is the main candidate for that.

[dense inlet]

but u kinda need good defensive stats if you really wanna say that's op

[dense inlet]

u can always look upon hydreigon

[silent acorn]

Weezing is decent for body fusions or hydreigon yeah

[white meadow]

Hydreigon/Salazzle or Salazzle/Hydreigon. I think at least one of those Fusions would be Poison and Dark

[silent acorn]

Now that would be epic as hell

[dense inlet]

could end up being in a cursed state where poison dark is unnobtainable

but I don't rember the typing rule for fusions

[silent acorn]

Good either way high speed high spatk

Salazzle main perk is having corrosion though, that and venoshok would slay a lot of things

One thing that would save salazzle from having to deal with ground is that hydreigon can learn surf and both combined would have incredible power due to the spatk

[dense inlet]

i mean if u can levitate ground is not even a problem anymore

[silent acorn]

Yeah though you do lose the poison coverage on snyth/everything

[raw bison]

I know hydreigon gives dark type as the head and dragon as the body, and if Salazzle follows the same convention of type 1=head then alas you'd get dark/fire or dragon/poison

[silent acorn]

Not full benefit then although dragon poison is still kinda good with levitate

Also weirdly enough salazzle learns dragon pulse. Also that salazzle would look fabulous

dope

ultra dope, this gives a pretty good what if

[plush bough]

Yes, immune to psychic and resistant to poison, ghost, grass and dark

[marsh lily]

Apparently Gothitelle gives you nightmares about horrific future events.

wonderful

[lusty oxide]

Well at least they are ethereal and beautiful

Also it’s specifically the end of the universe

[marsh lily]

Oh my god.

Heat death of the universe.

[lusty oxide]

The heat death of the universe

https://tenor.com/view/august-12-2036-heat-death-of-the-universe-august-12-2036-heat-death-of-the-universe-squidward-gif-6082127232150777232

[marsh lily]

I didn't know pokemon were familiar with meme culture.

[white meadow]

Dope

[tame flax]

Poison dragon and dark fire

[dense inlet]

both with levitate is not terrible tho

it's not dark/poison levitate but still

[tame flax]

Yeah, just saying what the fused types would be

[dense inlet]

yeah ik

[raw bison]

Gonna have to do the math on what the combos stats would be, I think Hydreigon/Salazzle the Poison/Dragon probably gets the best deal, leaning heavier on Salazzles Speed and Hydreigons SpA

Damn now I've got a fusion concept to sketch. I have a bunch of old ones from when there was the crossbreeding art trend that could work for fusions, but I never did one for Hydreigon

[tame flax]

Salazzle/hydreigon*

Hydreigons body is dragon, not its head

And salazzles head would be poison, not it's body

[raw bison]

Oh right derp literally did the check earlier, brain decided all the good bits were connected

[dense inlet]

using salandit as the little head hands

[raw bison]

Salazzle as the body would give higher speed and hydreigon as the head would give higher special attack, so statwise if you're going for a sweeper or cannon type that one gets the better numbers, but poison/dragon might be a good enough typing to make up the difference, especially with levitate given access to solid dark type coverage moves

[tame flax]

I mean you could give levitate to the other fusion too

[raw bison]

Yeah but dark fire leaves more uncovered weaknesses than poison/dragon I think, rock, water, fighting for sure, maybe others I'm forgetting?

[tame flax]

No I think that's it

With the opposite you got psychic, ice, and dragon

[raw bison]

Poison dragon with levitate would have uh, ice, dragon, and psychic, and hydreigon would give access to good dark type coverage moves at least, and I think covering the fighting rock and water would be harder

[tame flax]

Let me check something

Hydrezzle would get better stab options

[lusty oxide]

I hope Slurpuff gets in

[tame flax]

It would be incredibly based if he did

[lusty oxide]

I miss my fellow gen 6 fairy types

[tame flax]

Turn everything into pastries

[lusty oxide]

I hope for leavanny too

[white meadow]

Scolipede

Whirlipede would be a Cinnamon Role

[lusty oxide]

So many options!

[white meadow]

Slurpuff and Cofagrigus could be a reference to his Pokepark 2 minigame

[lusty oxide]

What Pokémon would make a macaron

[gleaming flame]

Shellder

[white meadow]

Whirlipede

[dense inlet]

i find it funny how we went from hating pokemon objects to loving it

[white meadow]

I always loved them

[dense inlet]

applin is kinda shit tho

[white meadow]

True true

[lusty oxide]

People didn’t hate object mons people hated gen 5

[white meadow]

But Pallosand tho

[raw bison]

I wouldn't call applin an object mon cause he's a worm in a plant

[dense inlet]

applin is nothing but a mistake

[lusty oxide]

What did applin do to you?

[dense inlet]

it's such a boring pokemon

[raw bison]

I don't have super strong feelings about the apple wyrm but I think he's a cutie and just a lil guy

[dense inlet]

the pie evolution is like ok

[lusty oxide]

You know what Pokémon isn’t boring
Amoongus

[raw bison]

But yeah Gen 5 designs got a LOT of flak for "revisiting" concepts from gen 1, especially with the objectmons, and by using parallel concepts it made it really easy for all the Gen 1 Stans to make their complaint memes

[dense inlet]

amoongus is like my most hated pokemon of all times

design wise and for the place it holds on competitive 2v2

[sullen elbow]

Two L opinions from you

[dense inlet]

what's appealing on a mushroom with a pokeball drawn on the top of it?

[hushed mantle]

Ngl competitive really makes you hate pokemon (reason i hate smeargle and toxapex)

[lusty oxide]

Ngl marketing really makes you hate Pokémon (reason i hate Pikachu)

[hushed mantle]

Well pikachu is the mascot tf did you expect?

[raw bison]

Distance makes the heart grow fonder, while familiarity breeds contempt

[lusty oxide]

I just wanna throw him into a kfc deep fryer

[hollow dust]

I feel that way about Vullaby and Toxel. I just hate them lol.

[white meadow]

Who tells him that the apple isnt a apple but a Wyrm?

[lusty oxide]

Toxel is just an annoying baby

Toxtricity is cool though

[mint grotto]

i hate pikachu as it killed my shiny starter in my first nuzloke

[hollow dust]

Yeah I love Toxtricity and Mandibuzz is alright, I just hate the dumb diaper babies lol.

[hushed mantle]

Also why does vullaby evolve at such high level?

[lusty oxide]

Gen 5 moment

[dense inlet]

ngl one of the coolest pokimun

[lusty oxide]

That is one of the main problems with gen 5 Pokémon they evolve so late

[surreal chasm]

Guys hear me out

What if they added Pikachu to Infinite Fusion

[lusty oxide]

Please don’t

[surreal chasm]

Yeah you're right... We don't need another Dedenne clone smh

[lusty oxide]

Dedenne is good Pikachu is dumb

[tropic mirage]

I want samurott so bad

[tender cliff]

Same

[glossy osprey]

I need guzz guzz guzz I'm gonna step on the guzz tonight

[terse fable]

What's the buzz? We're getting the Guzz

[thorny ferry]

I know the new mon will be revealed today, trust

[heavy sage]

I agree guzzlord is a w choice

[silent acorn]

Event announcements did something... Something not so interesting but something

To be honest Guzzlord is like having a shadow kirby

Its palette is awesome

[heavy sage]

Any mouth based fusions too

I like mouths. Someone would also help probably make the sarlac pit

[silent acorn]

like you can make this with its colors

[terse fable]

Guzzlord just has fantastic fusion ideas that really only it could bring, that's why I want it

[silent acorn]

Me too. I want I want it i want it so bad

[glossy osprey]

same

[silent acorn]

Although my other choices wouldn't dissapoint me

Like for instance think Drapion gets in you can also make horrible centaurs with it

[ancient falcon]

i sure hope heatran is coming

[glossy osprey]

drapion and heatran are both a w choice as well

[ancient falcon]

i voted 9999 on heatran

[white meadow]

If #special-contest-polls is giving us a Tell, then we might be getting either Munna or Cresselia

[silent acorn]

let me introduce you to your worst nighmare

[silent acorn]

OH MY GOD MY GOD MY GOD! COULD IT BE MUNNA????

[glossy osprey]

I want to have that worst nightmare

[heavy sage]

Dang munna would be disappointing

[silent acorn]

Excuse you munna is goddamn awesome for fusions with hypnotic gas and fancy purple, it's also actually a tapir unlike Hypno-thing

[glossy osprey]

what would they do with the munna line for body fusions?

[heavy sage]

Musharna isn’t bad but munna is just a ball with stubs for legs

[violet pawn]

stupid

[silent acorn]

So is igglybuff

[heavy sage]

Exactly. I don’t like igglybuff

[silent acorn]

Unlike stuff like kommo-o or chatot that barely gets use, munna and this is the first one actually has been used before.
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1079357300650823792

[heavy sage]

Yea I don’t want kommo-p or chatot either but they would make cooler fusions

[silent acorn]

There is a serious logic loop there, chatter wouldn't even work the same and kommo-o is not exactly a favorite for regular fusing either

[heavy sage]

But it has good potential

[silent acorn]

munna sure is kind of lame is the first before the bigger one, but it's not awful and can be used well

[heavy sage]

It has chain like things on it and has potential for cool armor fusions

[heavy sage]

Yea it can be used well I agree with that, im just saying kommo o could be used better

[crisp narwhal]

Can anyone tell me where to find infinte fusion I can’t find it

The game download

[heavy sage]

It’s in one of the channels in this server

[violet pawn]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/926866111948001341

[heavy sage]

Yea that one

[violet pawn]

if you click the server name you can enable show all channels and you will see it

[heavy sage]

Ooh thanks

[silent acorn]

for flareon bro I share this one

[plucky blaze]

I hope flareon makes it in the game

[silent acorn]

Little dream gas is very versatile

[silent acorn]

Harhar very funny

Has Gmr profile always had a sleep hat?

Like one of the mods or our guy that makes polls

[dusty arrow]

drampa

[silent acorn]

Well between cresselia and musharna all I can say, hey atleast the night mons are increasing, and if they kommo-o gets in Ill just keep killing it with an hypno

[silent acorn]

What?

[dusty arrow]

drampa

[silent acorn]

Why do you keep saying drampa?

[dusty arrow]

drampa

[hushed mantle]

Uncle drampa

[silent acorn]

Will you keep saying drampa is keep replying to you?

[dusty arrow]

drampa

[hushed mantle]

What is it for anyways? Votes closed a while ago

[dusty arrow]

...
drampa

[silent acorn]

click

[crude garden]

Click boom?

[dusty arrow]

also drampa is cool

[lusty oxide]

cocks shotgun

[silent acorn]

Ah now it's fixed

[dusty arrow]

i hope you enjoy going in a skyscraper (its filled with metal)

[hushed mantle]

The skyscraper is a dragon type too

[dusty arrow]

steel/dragon, argument invalid

[dusty arrow]

i would send my ice type magikarp propagands but i dont have it saved on mobile

[silent acorn]

Clicking on skip ad button

[dusty arrow]

what does dragicroadon stand for again

[lusty oxide]

I can learn dig you know for the funny

[crude garden]

Dragalge toxicroak gastrodon

[hushed mantle]

The 65 attack dig

[dusty arrow]

skarmory and/or corviknight
or crobat

[lusty oxide]

Then I can just use mystical fire

[dusty arrow]

torterra and toedscruel jumpscare

[dusty arrow]

75 base power against tanky mons

[hushed mantle]

They don’t have really good special defense tbf

[dusty arrow]

fair, but they usually still have decent hp

add my cat to infinite fusion

[crude garden]

Add my pet slug to the game

[placid pelican]

[sand mica]

Skuntank needs to be in the game. Please add it!

[earnest mortar]

same with Doggo

https://tenor.com/view/lycanroc-post-this-dog-rockruff-pet-gif-21403930

[sullen elbow]

Not in gen 9

[clever vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1135016846261768253/1148419623172190288/ezgif-3-2bbd16df20.gif

[proper bay]

Which Oricorio has the most fusions atm

[inland jewel]

Drampa

it would be really funny if they added the msot mentioned pokemon in this chat as a bonus

[sullen elbow]

Drampa

[clever vigil]

Hmmm, okay then... TIME TO MENTION SHARPEDO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!

[inland jewel]

Yo so we can get Mr. Pedo

[clever vigil]

NO, THIS IS THE LIKE 100TH TIME I HAVE HAD TO SAY THIS. IF SHARPEDO GETS ADDED THEN IT WILL BE SHARP EDO, NOT SHAR PEDO

[glossy osprey]

guzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlordguzzlord

[clever vigil]

Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Sharpedo, a rubber Sharpedo. A rubber Sharpedo with rats! I hate rats, they make me Sharpedo... Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Sharpedo, a rubber Sharpedo. A rubber Sharpedo with rats! I hate rats, they make me Sharpedo...

[rancid lily]

Uh it was a joke lmao

[gray shadow]

Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Submarine, a Metal Submarine. A Metal Submarine with Aqua Grunts! I hate Aqua Grunts, they make me Sharpedo... Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Submarine, a Metal Submarine. A Metal Submarine with Aqua Grunts! I hate Aqua Grunts, they make me Sharpedo...

[clever vigil]

Just in case

[thorny ferry]

baile: 88
pompom: 90
pa'u: 42
sensu: 81

[clever vigil]

Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Sharpedo, a Sharpedo Sharpedo. A Sharpedo Sharpedo with Sharpedos! I Sharpedo Sharpedos, they make me Sharpedo...

[gray shadow]

Sensu Sweep 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[rancid lily]

Lanturn is better than sharpedo

[clever vigil]

That is your opinion

[thorny ferry]

I counted sprite gallery post that included those words and some other posts that didn't say their names but rather said "oricorio (red)" and stuff like that

[gray shadow]

Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Submarine, a Metal Submarine. A Metal Submarine with Aqua Grunts! I hate Aqua Grunts, they make me Sharpedo... Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Submarine, a Metal Submarine. A Metal Submarine with Aqua Grunts! I hate Aqua Grunts, they make me Sharpedo...

[rancid lily]

We already have a fish we dont need sharpedo

[clever vigil]

IF I LIKE SHARPEDO THEN SO BE IT

[rancid lily]

ok

[glossy osprey]

Guzzlord rizz

[clever vigil]

Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Sharpedo, a Sharpedo Sharpedo. A Sharpedo Sharpedo with Sharpedos! I Sharpedo Sharpedos, they make me Sharpedo...

[rancid lily]

Please stop saying that

[clever vigil]

🦈

[sullen elbow]

Alright remove every fish mon exept magikarp since we only need one

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/pelipper-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25260726

[clever vigil]

Sharpedo? I was Sharpedo once. They put me in a Sharpedo, a Sharpedo Sharpedo. A Sharpedo Sharpedo with Sharpedos! I Sharpedo Sharpedos, they make me Sharpedo...

[rancid lily]

Lanturn > Magikarp

[proud lion]

What we weally need is Wingull

[raw bison]

Pelican

[sullen elbow]

Chi-yu>lanturn

[gray shadow]

CURSE OF RA 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑

[rancid lily]

Chi yu is not a fish

[sullen elbow]

Bruh

[rancid lily]

its a fire thing

[gray shadow]

CURSE OF RA 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑

[rancid lily]

CURSE OF RA 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑

[sullen elbow]

A fire fish

[rancid lily]

why are we even arguing lmao

[gray shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-goodbye-leave-disappear-gorbgif-gif-23138036

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/super_mario_64-cartoon-shifting-sand-land-parody-funny-gif-26759027

[glossy osprey]

reveal in how many hour

[cinder oasis]

Tmr I'm guessing or Sunday

[proper bay]

pelipper in game means we get lots of throat goat fusions

[cinder oasis]

Im pretty sure chi-Yu is actually the two beads that look like eyes

[spice sage]

Stop spamming

[cinder oasis]

Pelipper means one more drizzle user but Pelipper ugly AF so idk

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-penguins-penguin-love-penguin-hug-slapping-gif-24271495

[untold spire]

This is how it felt on Isle of Armor

[glossy osprey]

lmao I just thought of something silly, Guzzlord/slugma:literally guzma

[untold spire]

Guzgma but close enough

[sour stream]

I have found one on deviantart

https://www.deviantart.com/pokefusionman/art/Poke-Fusion-Haxopion-670789213

https://www.deviantart.com/elsdrake/art/Fusion-Dorark-213114152

[drowsy drift]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=a3KBFFMMNuU

[sour stream]

still, drapion is ugly and I would give it a hard pass

[drowsy drift]

I'm surprised anyone even likes drapion

[sour stream]

I take camerupt any time, yes I like chonky 4 legged pokemon

[glossy osprey]

rock quad eyebrow

[drowsy drift]

camerupt is magcargo if he wasn't a failure

[sour stream]

that's a plus

[proud lion]

Salazzle?

[sour stream]

this one is better

[proud lion]

Would Salazzle be a good choice?

[sour stream]

for?

[high haven]

On multiple fronts yes

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/salazzle-pokemon-walking-crawling-gif-23852131

[glossy osprey]

sallazle + guzzlord could make biohazard from sonic adventure 2

[proud lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_JmPQDdak

[maiden fern]

Is sammorout in this game if not it and it's hisuain form NEED TO BE

[untold spire]

No starters

[proud lion]

It is not in the game; only Gen 1-7 allowed due to engine

[acoustic locust]

wonderful WIP buzzwole propoganda :>

[proud lion]

Hisuian is technically Gen 8 but its form COULD be used; just not as a slot

[untold spire]

It would at most be a sprite alt

[maiden fern]

S ammourot normal form is in gen 5 SO WHY ISN'T IT IN INFINITE FUSION

[proud lion]

Engine Space

[terse fable]

Buzzswole is a top tier pick imo, right next to Guzzlord

[maiden fern]

Fuck it I'm beating the game with only gen 5 pokemon to protest

[grizzled cradle]

Samurott*

[glossy osprey]

Buzzwole can make some crazy head fusions with the colour palette and it's body fusions would be no slouch either

[proud lion]

A lot of Jojo stands

[maiden fern]

I will stick your skull on samurotts horn if you correct me again

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-breathe-johnny-rose-eugene-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20105271

[grizzled cradle]

hard to vote for a mon when one can’t recall it’s name

[untold spire]

Basically starters were winning the community vote by a long shot. So the newly added Pokémon via that would’ve been all starters, and Sableye I think. So the mods decided to make a judgement call and exclude them

[maiden fern]

It's hard to fucking spell ok?

How tf is ugly ass generic fire monke in the game but sammorot isnt

God I hate infernape

[acoustic locust]

ya everyones thinking of it as body fusions but i tihnk its head fusion potential is REALLY good

[untold spire]

Because it was added in the first pokedex expansion which was decided entirely by staff (I think)

[maiden fern]

Infernape looks like it has mold growing on its arms it's so danm ugly

[acoustic locust]

might sprite some of these eventually. head buzzwole lets you take a pokemon and exaggerate and round its volumes in a cool way, and its palette/pattern is super cool

[proud lion]

And they COULD still add them later down the line as bonus mons

[white meadow]

Am i seeing golisopod up there

[acoustic locust]

yes

[white meadow]

GOLISOPOD SUPREMACY 🗣️🗣️

[maiden fern]

The golisipod one looks like it's from hollow knight now I want it

[grizzled cradle]

aaaaaaaaaaa I can’t sprite bara absolutely loving your concepts though, hope it gets considered

[maiden fern]

You should rly sprite the golisipod one and suggest it to the devs I rly like it

[untold spire]

The only fusion concept I’ve ever thunked of was a Audino/Chansey one that’s just a giant XP Candy. Cause that’s essentially what both of them are

[maiden fern]

That's actualy a good idea

[untold spire]

Cant sprite for shit tho, wanted to try but yeah

[white meadow]

I slaughtered their families in radical red

[maiden fern]

that's a fun way to describe grinding

[maiden fern]

Just look up rare candy PNG and steal that.....

[untold spire]

I’ll have that in place of the egg

[glossy goblet]

i just wonder if Meloetta is gonna get one of the new pokemon spots

[untold spire]

Well next spot it prolly gonna get announced tomorrow

[drowsy elm]

Tomorrow or monday

nvm yeah its probably tomorrow, for some reason I thought they were releasing on mondays

[glossy goblet]

i mean, am i the only one that thinks about the crazy potential that meloetta could have with her fusions?

[drowsy elm]

Nah meloetta is definitely one of the higher mons If I had to guess, She'd be a great add

[glossy goblet]

of course!

i would personally love it if it was her time to be revealed tomorrow!

[agile olive]

This week's reveal will be two slots (the missing two) so it won't be her

[placid pelican]

[rancid lily]

[glossy goblet]

wait what

[placid pelican]

my baby

[rancid lily]

is this a new emoji?

[placid pelican]

[glossy goblet]

what do you mean two slots, you mean of a evolutionary line?

[rancid lily]

Truly a team lanturn moment

[placid pelican]

i added it since after explaining rickety's history they wanted an emoji of him

[terse fable]

Rickety hype

[raw bison]

On the one hand it's not guaranteed they'll reveal the mons for the missing numbers this week but on the other hand

slams fist A L T A R I A

[glossy goblet]

slams fist MELOETTA I SWEAR TO

[[G O D]]

[lethal roost]

each part of an evolutionary line takes a slot

we have 20 total slots and I believe we have 12 left?

[glossy goblet]

so that means with tomorrow's reveal there'll be like, 10 left to reveal?

[lethal roost]

depends on the mon

if it's Meloetta then it's a single slot. forms don't take more slots

if its gogoat it'd be two slots, since that's a two-stage line, etc.

[glossy goblet]

christ i do hope meloetta is one of the last 10

[rancid lily]

Im calling it its gonna be goomy line and meloetta as some of them

[glossy goblet]

she and Diancie are up there as my favorite mythic mons

[rancid lily]

I want one of my picks to get in 😢

[lethal roost]

i think Goomy and Noivern are up in the air between each other on this unfortunately

[glossy goblet]

so seeing the two together would be badass.

[lethal roost]

since both are very popular in the fandom

[raw bison]

I'd rather have diance between the two mythicals tbh

[lethal roost]

eh, that's an opinion 👍
i disagree but i do also want diancie if more slots open up someday

[sand mica]

Skuntank should be in the game.

[glossy goblet]

well i want both because i'm a simple man

and because i think meloetta and diancie fusions would go hard

[dull panther]

Ngl I kinda want the alola starters

[agile olive]

Yes, Kiwi said so last week when I asked if the skipped slots were intentional.

[lethal roost]

ah, so it is a two-stager. ||sandygast moment||

[glossy goblet]

it's fine if only one of the two enter, there's always next time if the pokedex is getting expanded again

[agile olive]

My thought too. It would be suitable being next to Trev line

[lethal roost]

i mean i don't mind the mon that's prooooobably in those two slots but it sure isn't gogoat 😎

(it'll never be gogoat. not unless some miracle happens and i win the trev raffle and thats not happening lol)

[rancid lily]

I'd be fine with altaria

[terse fable]

Love the fusion potential, but since we've already been assuming they'll be coming in it's going to feel underwhelming for me lol

[lethal roost]

ok but heres the thing uhhhh
||sandygast|| was datamined from the playtest lol

[raw bison]

I'm not a huge Stan of either of em, mind you, but I like the gemstone aesthetic better than the music one and, imma be honest, people talking up the potential of meloetta with music but then pretty exclusively talking about fusions using the chibi body type soured me on meloetta.

Like as a salazzle stan I'm not here to judge if you want your chibi lady but cmon, make use of the whole concept you're advocating for

[glossy goblet]

exactly, kaegro

[lethal roost]

also ||necrozma|| but that's a one-stager and probably coming later on

[glossy goblet]

after all, why limit yourself to a chibi lady when you can go beyond?

[lethal roost]

unless the two slots are two different one-stagers

meloetta and necrozma

[glossy goblet]

that would be funny

also the way i worded one of my messages is cursed

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/goomy-goop-realm-pokemon-goodra-lemon-demon-gif-27013083

[proper schooner]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1040857664848142416/1151623817286930472/espurr_skin.gif

[neat hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/blitzle-shock-wave-pokemon-gif-12335843659507587009

[glossy osprey]

roll the guzzlord scream

[stone cliff]

Guzzlord: "It is Wednesday my dudes."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[glossy osprey]

me when I see wasp in my room

[glossy goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/meloetta-spin-spinning-dancing-gif-5204967

[silent acorn]

You can have the chibi lady and then have the music bending pokemon

[warm verge]

Alls im saying is the Lotad line is gettin 0 love

[stone cliff]

Which is sad, Ludicolo would have been sick

[warm verge]

legit my favourite pokemon look at those moves aint no one coming close

I just want to put a ludicolo hat on every pokemon

[neat hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/mudkip-gif-26806171

Mudkip was the last good starter till SV, change my mind.

[inland jewel]

they had bad starters after SM

[neat hemlock]

Sprigatito and Fuecoco are nice.
Fancy celebrating croc or flower circus cat

https://tenor.com/view/meowscarada-magic-trick-gif-12840256034544863557

Was really worried they were gonna put em on two legs and give us another weird flamecat thing

[hushed mantle]

Nah the gen 4 trio goes hard

[neat hemlock]

Who are they?

[hushed mantle]

Turt monke and penguin

[neat hemlock]

None of those did it for me past stage 1.

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-plush-spin-spinny-rotate-gif-23093644

[neat hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/empoleon-impoleon-pingolèon-エンペルト-gif-20825437

[rough hound]

theres actually some context for this gif that i really like, lemme grab it rq

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/piplup-volknernation-piplup-dies-rip-piplup-gif-25683875

[neat hemlock]

Kinda... ehh.. monkey is best with the wukong vibes, but not my thing.

[rough hound]

Found it

[hushed mantle]

I like how happiny is just spinning lol

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/gastrodon-tritodon-spinning-okayu-nekomata-okayu-gif-24088570

its the only gif of a pokemon spinning i could think of off the top of my head lmao

[grizzled cradle]

ermm you’re forgetting peak

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-brionne-popplio-alola-gif-19810505

[rough hound]

you not only sent a second stage starter, but one of my least favorites in the entire franchise lmao

[neat hemlock]

Don't care for that ones later forms

[grizzled cradle]

[neat hemlock]

It needs 2 great forms to be a good starter.

[frozen oyster]

Yeah, like emboar and chesnaught!

[rough hound]

popplio had potential, but unless its a specifically gendered evolution i dont like clearly gender coded pokemon (even if theyre gender evos, they can be bad)

[neat hemlock]

Like slizzle.

[hushed mantle]

I’m glad it didn’t evolve into that one ugly big clown

[grizzled cradle]

oh god don’t remind me
gendered evo is far better than whatever that was

[frozen oyster]

In sad it didn't evolve into something jumping through aqua rings

[rough hound]

one search of "popplio fan evolution" has me disappointed in what we got

[neat hemlock]

Creepy clown would be alright, not good... but the current isn't to my taste either

[grizzled cradle]

they either really want to make it bipedal or water snivy

[drowsy elm]

I liked the gen 7 starters, no real whammies there honestly

[neat hemlock]

7 was?

[drowsy elm]

All were solid, decidueye was a great mon

[rough hound]

honestly, after unova it seems like nintendo completely forgot that starters were supposed to be COOL in their final forms (unova is my least favorite trio, but at least they look cool)

[neat hemlock]

Oh, the soccer cheese rabbit, the sad lizard, and the ... there's a third I swear

Feel like sobble shoulda kept the sad theme and his last form been like a grave keeper or some sorta inflictor of sadness

[drowsy elm]

Decidueye, incineroar, greninja, delphox, cinderace, and then the new trio are all cool though?

[neat hemlock]

Maybe his skill is immune to perish song... and he just stalls people out with perish song

[rough hound]

decidueye and greninja are the only ones i can agree are solid. but 1/3 isnt enough to save the whole trio

[neat hemlock]

Delphox was cool. Cute fox into wizard fox into mystic woods witch fox

Rowlet I guess is a good starter. Just a touch forgettable to me.

[drowsy elm]

Most starters are cool, normally they throw in one that ends up kinda cute or whatever which is fair, but overall I'd say cool starter pokemon still exist

[rough hound]

delphox is forgettable imo, a pyromancer fox couldve been done so much better. the human-like proportions and lack of discernable personality in the mon's design make it entirely inferior to the other lines in that gen. not to mention, unless theres a believable lore reason for it i dont think a pokemon should hold any sort of object in general

[neat hemlock]

I believe the eventual formula for starters was 1 cool, 1 monster, 1 cute

[drowsy elm]

Absolutely

[neat hemlock]

Blastoise is the cute, Charizard is the cool, and Venosaur is the monster.

[drowsy elm]

meganium is cute typhlosion is cool and feraligatr is the monster

[rough hound]

pokemon had a formula for starters. the first was always young and innocent, the second was a teen with a distinguishable personality, and the third was a cool monster with a lot of personality and flare packed into their designs

[tough hatch]

Someone needs to make delibird+dusknoir into a king de de de fusion

[neat hemlock]

Ditto + Delibird would be dedede... yeah?

[tough hatch]

No that 1 attack de de de dose in Kirby's dream land 2 and 3 where his gut opens up like a chest similar to how dusknoir looks

I ment mouth not chest

[rough hound]

every stage was supposed to be likable, and every mon was supposed to be equally likely to be picked. there was no favoritism or focus on fanservice like current mons. ash got all 3 kanto starters, with each having their own way of having met him and their own character arcs. they then switched to their current blatant favoritism of certain lines, creating one that they knew would be a better mascot to travel with ash so that fans wouldnt be disappointed about which one he chose

[drowsy elm]

I'd still stay that that stands, sure not every mon is a winner (especially with gen 8) But that design ideal can still be seen

[rough hound]

well, maybe its technically still there, but the execution has gone way downhill =P

[grizzled cradle]

(this for those wondering)

[drowsy elm]

Eh its solid enough, the games as a whole have been kinda going downhill

the current gen of starters has definitely been better than gens 6 and 8

[rough hound]

barely lol. meowscarada is underdesigned and very obviously bait, skeledirge is disappointing, and quaquaval (my personal favorite of the 3, if my least favorite first stage) is overdesigned

[drowsy elm]

Skeledirge is disappointing???

[prisma willow]

Shame the game has to constantly render a planet sized ocean and a star sized skysphere

[tough hatch]

Yes that

[rough hound]

yep, its design is very underwhelming compared to all the things they could have done, and a very jarring change from crocalor. they could have done a lot better, but they just made a weirdly colored croc and slapped some fire and a bird on it

[tough hatch]

I think it would fit a delibird and dusknoir fusion well

[true elm]

will have to disagree with you there but i respect your opinion

[sharp sphinx]

guesses for tomorrows reveal? there are wrong answers

[drowsy elm]

I'm with this guy

[grizzled cradle]

skunktank

[terse fable]

I do think most of the new mons and starters are eh, but overdesigned? Don't think I've ever seen a take quite like that

[rough hound]

as an example, they had very clearly set up a focus on the top of the head in both its prevos, a small little whatever that is on fuecoco and a sombrero on crocalor. then they just took it all away in favor of a tiny little bird that doesnt even sit on its head

[sharp sphinx]

well that is a wrong answer for a different reason than I meant

[round matrix]

How many slots for new pokemon are left?

[sharp sphinx]

12

[drowsy elm]

12 if i'm not mistaken

[round matrix]

Gotcha

[sharp sphinx]

though if ya count stuff we maybe know 8

[rough hound]

less overdesigned ig, and more too many moving parts. its got too many bits. as i said, its my favorite

[terse fable]

Alright, that makes more sense to me

[tough hatch]

what do you by new Pokemon as not in the game like, um carbink(I think)

[drowsy elm]

||ik the sand line and necro but who's the 4th?||

[sharp sphinx]

what do you think this chat is for ghosty

[sharp sphinx]

||one of the ubs I thought, haven't kept in loop that much||

[true elm]

well, the starters are based on circus performers so maybe they were aiming for that? circus performers tend to have a lot of colors and moving parts

[sharp sphinx]

no hey aren't

[true elm]

idk thats just my interpretation because i like all 3

[sharp sphinx]

wait which gen ? 9's 100% aint circus perfromances

[rough hound]

thats fair actually, and it does make sense. i just didnt wanna show my favoritism lmao. i love the fruity duck

meowscarada is my biggest complaint tho

[tough hatch]

Um sorry

[sharp sphinx]

was more a lol question not upset

||was something in playtest that maybe suggested the jellyfish I think? I forget||

[true elm]

@sharp sphinx gen 9

same, i love meowscarada but it couldve hella been better

[drowsy elm]

I think Meow is a fine mon, it isn't overdesigned and what is there shows what the mon is, which Is a magician cat with its yoyo flower

[sharp sphinx]

no they are based on celeberations from various cultures, there's dia de los muertos, carnival, and mardigra

is singer a circus role?

[terse fable]

I don't care for meowscarada, but I like they're signature move where they do that little snap

[true elm]

well meowscarada is a masquerader, skeledirge is a singer and quavo is a dancer

[true elm]

well i guess they are all performers, not circus tho

[grizzled cradle]

gen7 is the circus themed one:
a hoop lion, a ball-juggling seal, and a ring leader (deci)

[drowsy elm]

Plus wrestling used to be done at circuses

[sharp sphinx]

also strong man, and knife thrower at least stage 2

[rough hound]

imo floragato was a GORGEOUS design, it had just the right amount of detail, a fun personality, looked natural, and honestly is one of my favorite second stages in the franchise. then meowscarada just takes away all those details and slaps a practically disconnected mask and cape onto it

[sharp sphinx]

mardigras has masquerade skeledirge is clearly dia de los muertos, and quaquaval is clearly based on carnevale

[true elm]

true

[grizzled cradle]

wow I absolutely forgot about floragato lol

[drowsy elm]

Honestly disliked floragato

[rough hound]

whether you like, dislike, or forgot em. you cant say that it isnt a near perfectly designed pokemon. everything meshes well, it has personality, and it looks completely natural

[stone cliff]

Gotta love weed cat

[true elm]

even the in game animations with the yoyo are so fun

[proud lion]

Puss in Boots

[sharp sphinx]

so yeah anyways predictions on tomorrows reveal?

[rough hound]

im hoping in my soul that its one of my big 3

[sharp sphinx]

which were

[grizzled cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-pokemon-pokémon-shields-down-super-meteor-650-gif-13438644593076750957

[sharp sphinx]

gastrodon algea and?

[terse fable]

It's probably going to be one of the leakedmons if we're being real

[stone cliff]

Hoping for Altaria, Clawitzer, Claydol or Ludicolo (AKA the ones nobody talks about lmao)

[rough hound]

the 3 members of my alliance lol. dragalge, toxicroak, and gastrodon

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/goomy-goop-realm-pokemon-goodra-lemon-demon-gif-27013083

[drowsy elm]

They're a fine mon, I've grown on em a bit considering I chose sprig, plus the yoyo stuff was awesome but I think "perfectly desigined" is definitely a bit much

[sharp sphinx]

it will not be goomy tomorrow

[stone cliff]

If I had to guess, it's probably gonna be one of the leaked ones, or Lycanroc

[drowsy elm]

Hoping for the regis, meloetta, or altaria (or diance)

[sharp sphinx]

won't be regis either

[drowsy elm]

says who

[sharp sphinx]

not saying they can't get in just not tomorrow

[rough hound]

when i say that, im less saying the overall likability scale and more on the aspects that make a pokemon design in the first place

[sharp sphinx]

2 slots they skipped and are goin back to, thus 3'fers don't work

[drowsy elm]

ah okay okay, the way you worded it was weird

[stone cliff]

Who says they're gonna start back with those slots?

[grizzled cradle]

bruxish wins out of nowhere

[sharp sphinx]

cause they shifted schedule just to jump to treveannt for rush so as to hav esomething with non contest to reveal alongide bday contest

[terse fable]

True, I'll be shocked if they don't though

[sharp sphinx]

wouldn't lycanrock count as 4 now actually dex wise even if only 2 for purposes of the 20 slots

[gusty shuttle]

hi

[terse fable]

hi

[stone cliff]

Inb4 they announce a 3 stage as 450-452 just to fuck with people

[gusty shuttle]

I think Pidove actually won every slots

12 slots of Pidove
That would be glorious

[sharp sphinx]

feel we have enough regional bird lines

[grizzled cradle]

incorrect,
SKUNKTANK FOR THE WIN‼️‼️‼️‼️💯💯💯💯‼️‼️💯‼️‼️💯💯‼️‼️!!1

[sharp sphinx]

doesnt make sense to use limited space for them when a lot can be capture via bodies of existing

[gusty shuttle]

but we don't have Pidove

[stone cliff]

Well, whether it makes sense or not, people may have voted it in lol

My best guess is Lycanroc though, but then again that's been my guess the last few times so

[sharp sphinx]

doesn't really track for tomorrow

[gusty shuttle]

people voted dog for sure
but I voted pigeon
we are not the same

[sharp sphinx]

shoo, go play hatoful boyfriend 😛

[raw bison]

Lycanroc would work for the two slots but yeah, since the forms have different stats he might use 4 dex slots like oricorio does, even if he's only using 2 vote slots, so I don't think it's the wolf

[terse fable]

It's obviously Guzzlord and [insert second mon here]

[sharp sphinx]

guzzlady

[stone cliff]

Claydol/Altaria/Clawitzer are all candidates then

[gusty shuttle]

what's hatoful boyfriend
is it a horror dating game

[proud lion]

Or use SM Lycanroc and not USUM

[raw bison]

Is this a joke or do you need to experience the award winning pigeon dating sim

[gusty shuttle]

apparently I do

[stone cliff]

I am actually shocked at how few people talk about Clawitzer

[sharp sphinx]

he's not one of my toppest choices but would def be a good additon

[stone cliff]

I understand the rest of my top ones not being the most popular but homie has a fucking claw cannon

[raw bison]

I only saw like glimpses of it but it's a treasure. It does contain horror elements depending on the routes but my goodness sir, godspeed on the Hatoful Boyfriend experience. Play the game or find a playthrough, it's a wild ride

[rough hound]

if its a 2 slot this time, it could be one of my team and i will hold onto that hope

[raw bison]

I'm pulling for Altaria or Aurorus for the next reveal, though there's plenty of 2 stages that I'd be happy to see sneak in there, but until || Pallosand || gets properly confirmed or denied I'm gonna have to assume that's what goes in those missing slots

[alpine rune]

I'm taking something from the way left field

It's going to be keldeo isnt it?

[stone cliff]

I feel like Keldeo is a gateway Mon to MLP fusions

[raw bison]

Eh, ponyta already works for that just fine. Keldeo would just let you do it without the fire theming

[alpine rune]

I can go "well ackhtually the stats say" all I want but deep down I know its not going to be Aurorus

[cinder oasis]

Keldeo being next would be a bombshell

[grizzled cradle]

clawitzer’s design works for detailed cool fusions, but mostly just that

it’d be honedge x2, nobody’s gonna fuse it with an eevee or jigglypuff beyond just turning the claw into a weapon and armor

[alpine rune]

None of my "Gameplay unique" top 20 got comfirmed

[raw bison]

Not that I would mind having another horse mon available for all the half-horse creatures from mythology, but personally I'd prefer zebra

[cinder oasis]

It's ability is Cool, the design is cool and it would be a great addition but idk, I just dont have much interest for it in IF, even though I love clawitzer itself

[stone cliff]

I'm just a sucker for heavy artillery

[grizzled cradle]

(it also brings clauncher behind it like an awkward sibling)

[cinder oasis]

Same with altaria ngl and some others

[raw bison]

But swablu is also a hat

[cinder oasis]

Nuh uh

[stone cliff]

I mean, if we exclude all the 2 stages that have a lackluster stage 1, we won't have many left lol

[cinder oasis]

True, that's why I'm not really gonna complain abt it, only for three stage evolutions

[raw bison]

It's canon swablu is hat

[cinder oasis]

No thanks

[alpine rune]

hat

[rough hound]

hat

[terse fable]

hat

[raw bison]

Swablu head fusions are all just swablu sitting on the mons head like a hat, peak design distinguishing it from altaria fusions

[cinder oasis]

That's lazy and uninteresting

[terse fable]

No that's hat

[cinder oasis]

I could do that with any other pokemon as well

[alpine rune]

But hat

[cinder oasis]

Shroomish is a better hat

[raw bison]

I mean it's a joke becaude hatfunny, so I meant it to be funny, not interesting

It is a silly but we could still do it because swablu is a HAT

[cinder oasis]

Most pokemon could be a hat as well

[raw bison]

But most pokemon don't have multiple dex entries describing how they like to pretend to be hats

[cinder oasis]

Pidgey could be my hat instead

[raw bison]

Swablu likes to be a hat, and with fusions, it can be

[cinder oasis]

Well Pidgey could be a hat with fusions

[brisk vessel]

Pidgey doesn't like being a hat

[raw bison]

Correct, but pidgey doesn't care about being a hat

[cinder oasis]

How do you know?

Well it could still be a hat for my pokemon

[brisk vessel]

It never states it outright therefore you must assume it's not part of it's nature

[raw bison]

Not as much as swablu, where it's mentioned in the dex entries

[cinder oasis]

It can still be a hat if I wanted it to be

[raw bison]

If you want a bird hat of course you have options of putting any bird on your head, but with swablu you have canon to back it up

[terse fable]

Funny bird likes to hat, I want him

[cinder oasis]

Theres nothing preventing pidgey from doing that

[brisk vessel]

Yes there is and it's Pidgey not wanting to sit on your head

[cinder oasis]

Proof?

[brisk vessel]

My brother in Christ if it sat on your head it would be to take a crap

[raw bison]

But nobodys made pidgey into hats because it's not as cute as swablu pretending to be a hat because it likes to cannonically

[cinder oasis]

Its a docile pokemon so it could reasonably do that

[rough hound]

ok this is one of my favorite memes from this channel

[terse fable]

I shouldn't of laughed as hard as I did at this lol

[raw bison]

With swablu we have Canon backing for bird hat fusions. Bird Hat

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-until-we-meet-again-goodbye-gif-7594892226715043729

[cinder oasis]

Well I can still make pidgey as a hat fusions as well

[raw bison]

Please do, bird hats

[brisk vessel]

Yea but nobody would follow why that is

[cinder oasis]

It would be funny so it still can work

[raw bison]

If someone asks "why is swablu just sitting on the other pokemon" I can point to half a dozen pomedex entries and I think that's high quality

[cinder oasis]

I can just say that pidgey sitting on your head is cute and funny

[raw bison]

Wish I'd brought up Bird Hat while voting was open but Alas

Nothing to do about it now but Hope 'n Cope

[cinder oasis]

Though to be honest Swablu would be much cooler as a hat

[rough hound]

as someone who's designed bird pokemon before and owns a bird irl, there are only a few ways to make a bird hat work. pidgey has none of those things

[cinder oasis]

This is pokemon

[rough hound]

your point?

[raw bison]

Eh I mean you can stylize pidgey like a lil floofy winter songbird

[cinder oasis]

Swablu is just more stylish and supreme