pif-hoenn-discussion

[frank oxide]

like uhhh venemoth maybe

[frozen oyster]

Oooh there's also the Cheepoofs

[lusty oxide]

Cheepoofs are supposed to be butterflies I think

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/kweeble-bugsnax-it-simply-amazes-me-gif-25845619

[frozen oyster]

Oh you're right! Ye ye, so butter free for cheepoof then

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/cheepoof-my-beloved-bugsnax-kinda-bug-kinda-snack-gif-26064161

[lusty oxide]

You could use yanma for sweetiefly

[clever atlas]

Volcarona
More specifically iron moth
Make it's wing panels into pizza slices

[frank oxide]

or gyarados could be the sandopede

[frozen oyster]

I feel like gyarados would be Megamaki

[lusty oxide]

Crabby is crapple

[frank oxide]

is there any cameleon bugsnax

[frozen oyster]

I wanted to see a bugnsax based on a Prawn and Croissant named Proissant

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/bugsnax-fan-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-gif-26562933

https://tenor.com/view/bugsnax-gif-27649599

th egg could be exegute

or howev you spell

[frozen oyster]

A whole herd of Egglers

[frank oxide]

yes

[violet pawn]

it's spelles executive

[frank oxide]

its exeggcute,the mon

[frozen oyster]

I wanna see a California Exeggutor with Avocados for heads and Avocado pits for exeggcute

[violet pawn]

you got to get on that sigma grindset bro

[frozen oyster]

Alternatively

[frank oxide]

that is cringe

[violet pawn]

im jokking

[frank oxide]

IS THAT A DUMBO OCTOPUS

[frozen oyster]

It's called a Sunsquish from Pikmin 4 I think!

Also, BREADBUG THE BELOVED

What would that fusion be...

[lusty oxide]

It’s actually called sugma

[frank oxide]

aw,though you were talking about this grimblo

[frozen oyster]

Oh that would be super cute. Definitely an Octillery fusion of some kind

[frank oxide]

octillery/mimikyu

or octillery/shuckle

[oblique sigil]

skittle eyes

[frank oxide]

crystal m-

the adult candy

anyways

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-4-pikmin-red-pikmin-yellow-pikmin-blue-pikmin-gif-3990830663155095995

https://tenor.com/view/moss-moss-dog-pikmin-pikmin-4-pikmin-moss-gif-1552022056269091916

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/moss-pikmin-4-gangnam-style-balls-silly-gif-17976274043724375514

mos

[frank oxide]

me waiting so see what the balloons will look like tmrw (hey all exploded yet no rveal):

[jaunty pebble]

the secret is they mean absolutely nothing and its a massive troll

[short garden]

where are the balloons again

[frozen oyster]

The balloons have popped, now we wait for the pokemon to fall from the sky and land

[frank oxide]

contest

[tame flax]

I thought it would have been today

Technically it still could be, just later

[short garden]

please link it, i cant find the channel

[frank oxide]

weird,cant too

[short garden]

ah fuck they popped the channel

[tame flax]

#event-announcements

[daring bane]

epic discord "feature"

you can't find whatever channel you want to find

[tame flax]

I just linked it

[short garden]

didnt it have "contest" in the name?

[tame flax]

It did

[short garden]

explains quite a bit

[frank oxide]

dnag

[tame flax]

Blacephalons looking more likely

[covert geode]

more like "KA-BOOM"

or even kachow

[lusty oxide]

I hope it’s a troll

[frank oxide]

yes

[frank oxide]

if it isnt,prob just an xtra mon,not that much blacephalon support

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/aromatisse-perfume-monster-camera-pan-pokemon-anime-gif-27404587

troll, gremlin, bugbear
all names for a small fantasy trickster creature

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-sun-and-moon-alola-blacepheon-dance-gif-24389531

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-pokemon-ultra-beast-sun-gif-7912665

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/kartana-shiny-pokemon-usum-ultra-sun-gif-19000323

[surreal chasm]

What pokemon do you predict will get into IF?
(Not ones that you personally want per se, just ones you think are likely to get added)

[covert geode]

i need ludicolo in the game because ay muchachos

[surreal chasm]

Mexican forms >>>

[covert geode]

clearly

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/simisear-saturday-simisear-gif-23454367

[surreal chasm]

Try again

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/palpitoad-uses-hydro-pump-hydro-pump-palpitoad-pokemon-palpitoad-pokemon-palpitoad-uses-hydro-pump-gif-24814445

[covert geode]

trash aaah

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/floatzel-pokemon-water-punch-gif-19145821

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-25238734

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/trubbish-pokemon-gif-9261048513278512860
GASP fans enjoying our unpopular trashmons (we like the design):

[surreal chasm]

Garbodor makes for nice fusions I support its addition

Pokemon-but they're made of actual garbage now

[covert geode]

i love trashmon

[thorny ferry]

Spheal and rockruff

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/regi-dance-dance-regi-gif-26715575

[oblique sigil]

Pikachu Libre

[short garden]

idk why but i think buzzwole has a high chance of getting in

[hollow creek]

Easily lunala

And solgaleo

[oblique sigil]

nobody really wants legendaries

kinda sad, but that's how it is

[white meadow]

can you really say that tho?

[oblique sigil]

which unfortunately drags mythical pokemon into the mix because people confuse the two

[white meadow]

most people here costantly said that they didn't want starters either yet look at how many votes they got

[oblique sigil]

yes. people talk about not wanting legendaries all the time

true

[cinder oasis]

Most people who vote have never sent a message in this channel

[white meadow]

yeah ik that's the point i was making

[cinder oasis]

So even if this channel doesn't want a legendary or an Ultra beast it's ultimately what the other thousands of people who vote decide

[daring bane]

i hope zeraora gets in

[cinder oasis]

Maybe idk

[white meadow]

New Mon in roughly an Hour and a Half

If Ramsey is right, then we're possibly getting a New Reveal at Around 6:00 EST

2 days early?

[gentle ferry]

Where’s that theory come from lol

[white meadow]

#event-general and #event-announcements

[white meadow]

And we've already had Reveals on Fridays instead of Saturdays. There's no Specific Date or Day

ig?

[lusty oxide]

It’s usually around the weekend

So people that actually have things to do in the day can be there for the reveal

(I don’t)

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/regirock-gif-18340779

[cinder oasis]

Some don't obviously, mostly just people who work or are outside.

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/pacman-gif-21447981

[lusty oxide]

I’m gonna make you dead

[old kayak]

About to make some ghost type pokemon

[lusty oxide]

Yeah lol

[old kayak]

As long as it's a gen 7 ghost type

Remember yall can vote for a gen 7 mon today! And maybe it will save a life

[meager python]

Minior my beloved

[old kayak]

No its my beloved

[meager python]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-minior-pokemon-pokemon-i-only-stand-for-one-flag-minior-nation-gif-23996712

[lusty oxide]

No it’s my beloved

[exotic jewel]

Hey, cool rock.

[meager python]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-pokemon-gif-25755174

[meager python]

Cool space rock

[old kayak]

Beautiful Space Rock

[lusty oxide]

I’m surprise how often Pokémon just straight up die in the anime

[meager python]

God this reminds me I still need to make a minior team on showdown

[meager python]

Pikachu dies a lot

[lusty oxide]

Pikachu seems alive to me sadly…

I want to turn him into a fine paste

[old kayak]

Pikachu Mustard

[exotic jewel]

Do we have a fusion based on Cell yet?

[cinder oasis]

Most likely

[thorny ferry]

Ye

[rancid lily]

one fusion: mr. mime/sharpedo

thats why it shouldn't get in

[cinder oasis]

It's not gonna be named that

[rancid lily]

it wont?

[cinder oasis]

They won't let that happen you monkey

[clever vigil]

OML, FOR THE LAST TIME. IT IS CONFIRMED THAT IF SHARPEDO GETS IN THEN IT WILL BE SHARP-EDO

[clever vigil]

Sorry sorry, I just have to say this so much

[lusty oxide]

Mr edo

[rancid lily]

Im wondering, what is the heehee fusion?

[clever vigil]

Koffing

[rancid lily]

and?

[exotic jewel]

Sounds like a bad mid-2000s rapper

[clever vigil]

Might just be koffing and nothing else

[light garden]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KiwiSprites/sprites/main/Default Base Sprites/109.png

[rancid lily]

Uhhh this is koffing's sprite

[lusty oxide]

Y’all should make yourselves yanmega immune

[white meadow]

if you fuse it with slurpuff it would still be slurpedo 🔥

[exotic jewel]

sluredo

[clever vigil]

Slurpuff better not get in so this doesn't happen

[exotic jewel]

Is Sharpedo confirmed?

[white meadow]

idk if they would make "slur" the half it would give kek

[clever vigil]

I wish

[exotic jewel]

S P E E D B O O S T

[white meadow]

scolipede:

[gentle ferry]

idk how likely Sharpedo is tbh, wouldn't be upset tho

[exotic jewel]

I'mma be real, I forgot Scolipede had that ability.

[sly kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-pokemon-here-comes-the-boi-boi-pouic-gif-22554922

[lusty oxide]

I’m playing Pokémon white 2 and just remembered how painful it is to have to deal with HM’s

[white meadow]

oh right no fairies

[white meadow]

Ice ballsack overated tbh

was about to say "peak" but i am slowly starting to like fairies

[lusty oxide]

Fairy type is based

[white meadow]

what have i become aaaaaaaa

[white meadow]

It ruined spiritomb's perfect no weaknesses 😭😭

[lusty oxide]

It needed a weakness

The removal of HM’s has to be one of the best changes made in Pokémon games ever

[white meadow]

It didn't even reach ou when it had no weaknesses

true

[lusty oxide]

The addition of fairy type is also one of them

[white meadow]

it should have not gotten a bug resistance tho

Bug type is the best type fr fr

[lusty oxide]

Why does it even resist bug lol

[white meadow]

Yeah bug type already sucks offensively

[lusty oxide]

Makes no sense

[white meadow]

It's effective against 3 types and weak against 7 types (fairy included)

[lusty oxide]

It’s defensive end isn’t that great either right? I’m too lazy to look it up

[white meadow]

It resists 3 types and is weak against 3 types

So it's not so bad

[lusty oxide]

It should just be resisted by less types

But I think GF is too scared to change the type chart

[white meadow]

tbh it is understandable

like even the slightest change would make people mad

then again steel lost resistances and there wasn't really that much of a backlash (as far as i know)

They keep making busted pokemons, i don't think they care about competitive that much

[lusty oxide]

The only thing they can do is give bug types more tools to counter types that resist it

[white meadow]

it's more of the fact that changing the way a type works would be such a massive change

[white meadow]

When there was rumors about a new type coming to the game with the dlc for Scarlet/Violet i saw a lot of people getting hyped despite the fact that it could completely change everything

I think a new type would be welcomed more than anything

[hushed mantle]

I mean, there will be a new type in the dlc

[lusty oxide]

I feel like the new type will purely be for attacks

[hushed mantle]

I feel it will be exclusive to terapagos

[prisma willow]

Ice needs some resistances.

[lusty oxide]

It was on a baxalibur in the trailer

[high haven]

If I'm not mistaken, ice only resists itself

[hushed mantle]

It should resist water, ground and flying

[lusty oxide]

I think the main purpose of the type is to delete terastal Pokemon

[prisma willow]

And electricity, as ice does not conduct electricity in any way.

[high haven]

Who do y'all thinks getting added next? (Excluding the chance of staff picks)

[prisma willow]

I feel like poison should be super effective against water considering well... gestures at ocean

[hushed mantle]

Goodra or blacephalon

[lusty oxide]

Honestly I don’t know since this chat doesn’t give an accurate view on the votes at all

[high haven]

Fair enough

[lusty oxide]

I don’t really like the ultra beasts I feel like it might be difficult to sprite fusions for them

[high haven]

We'll manage

[lusty oxide]

Their designs are usually pretty complex too

[prisma willow]

I feel like Celesteel is really underrated

Am I the only one who stans giant bamboo rocket princess?

[high haven]

Celesteela was one of the mons I wanted just because. Still high up there honestly

If Seviper were already in the game, I would advocate Celesteela

[old kayak]

I too stan giant bamboo rocket princess

[woven oxide]

You know what you need more than a grass starter?

A Cool Water/Bug type with a samurai aesthetic

[woven oxide]

Celesteela is a great design

[alpine rune]

I like the mosquito

And the funny origami

[cinder oasis]

Steel and water

[woven oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/gogogolisopod-golisopod-goatedgolisopod-gif-25159763

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/gogogolisopod-golisopod-goatedgolisopod-gif-25159759

[lusty oxide]

Golisopod pretends to be though but deep down it’s still a coward

[crude garden]

Just like guzma frfr, they were made for each other

[tropic nacelle]

I awake again

[lusty oxide]

Lilligant you’re back!

Haven’t seen you here in a while

[alpine rune]

I'm betting Liligant would be a staff pick

idk why i just had the feeling

[lusty oxide]

Then we would have the most based staff ever

Although i doubt there will be another staff pick

[proud lion]

Heads up to prevent disappointment this Saturday

[lusty oxide]

Thanks for disappointing me ahead of time! /j

[alpine rune]

Those who said that it's a blacephalon reveal owe me 2 dollars each

[lusty oxide]

I knew it wasn’t blacephalon

It was a red herring

A troll you might say

[alpine rune]

I'll be waiting my 8 dollars at 123-ITOLDYOUSO-1345

[lusty oxide]

Lol

Finally getting that cash out

[fallen loom]

maybe it's popping like crackling

it could also be Minor, since it could be a meteor shower

[lusty oxide]

It’s a red herring dude

[fallen loom]

then what isn't a red herring?

[robust geyser]

they are gonna add drifloon

[fallen loom]

already in

we need more Dark and Fighting Types though

[lusty oxide]

This

[fallen loom]

if they add in another update that increases the mon total to 500, I hope they'll include Gen 8 and 9 mon in that and add evos from those gens

[outer matrix]

At least I don't owe since I said Blacpheon yesterday

[alpine rune]

it was yesterday for me but i didnt count you

[alpine rune]

So yea 10 dollars ig

[fallen loom]

next mons better be bonus or Scraggy/Pancham/Regis

[lusty oxide]

I hate that [clown around town]

[outer matrix]

2 dolla- oh wait that's not too bad not gonna lie

[fallen loom]

Wimpod line works too, since we need at least one Gen 7 Bug line

[dark prism]

and here I got carried away on speculation and made a custom sprite for it

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[dark prism]

hope I'll get to submit it at some point

I mean idk if it's done just yet but it's like almost done lol

[alpine rune]

The goomy general is going to post like 20 fucking goomys all at once when it's announced

[dark prism]

oh yeah I'm sure

but that one feels like a sure thing because goomy line is very popular for various reasons

[alpine rune]

Yea something tells me that its quite popular too that it has a high chance of getting in

[dark prism]

I'm less sure about blacephalon getting in

but we shall see, I think I voted a 2 for it

[alpine rune]

the thing about ultra beasts is that theyre like alll seperate. Pretty sure, if not a lot, then some people like me who just wants all or nothing. like vote all UBs in or just none, no in between

[dark prism]

yeah that's just a lot of slots so it doesn't feel like it's gonna happen like that either

probably just the most popular ones

[alpine rune]

I can only think of kartana

[dark prism]

I think Buzzwole is one of the more popular ones but who knows

[alpine rune]

ima google it lol

[dark prism]

I don't exactly have a read on which UBs are considered the popular ones

[lusty oxide]

I don’t really like the ultra beast they either are good for head or body never both

[dark prism]

this was my wip btw

I think Blacephalon has more promise than most of them fusion design wise

[alpine rune]

uhhh receptions are mixed

but damn, xurkitree is like consistent in like the 3-4th place

people like xurkitree?

[dark prism]

yeah I think that's accurate

[alpine rune]

I thought people hated xurkitree

[dark prism]

Seen a good amount of xurkitree love. I do find it one of the more interesting ones myself

[alpine rune]

Well hate is a strong word, I guess moreso "not talked about"

[dark prism]

idk tbh when sun and moon first came out it was impossible to tell because it seemed like nobody could reach a consensus on whether they were cool or not

[alpine rune]

Ima go scout out more polls lol

[dark prism]

sounds gud

[alpine rune]

I'll just average out the poll results too

[cinder oasis]

Kartana and Naganadel

Are what I think are the most popular

[alpine rune]

again like damn people like Xurkitree consistently

[glossy osprey]

My honest reaction

[rancid lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1140068417928429579/image0.gif

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

https://tenor.com/view/fact-of-the-day-facts-fax-fax-bro-fax-bruh-gif-26309542

[lusty oxide]

Staff is based

[woeful nebula]

shaymin

coward

[rancid lily]

So shaymin is a coward and I shouldn't vote for it? ok

[woeful nebula]

you are a weakling

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-gif-22565401

[rancid lily]

I have a shaymin in pokemon go spare me sheesh

[woeful nebula]

i dont even have pokemon go lmao

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-of-the-day-facts-fax-fax-bro-fax-bruh-gif-26309542

[lusty oxide]

Sylveon is best Pokémon

[rancid lily]

*Lanturn

[woeful nebula]

erm aktually the best pokemon is shaymin

[lusty oxide]

Nah I’m better

[rancid lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1148771205835411467/image0.gif

[alpine rune]

We all know that pachirisu is the best pokemon

[lusty oxide]

You leaving already?

Chat is kinda dead without you lol

[hollow creek]

Who’s coming next week?

[woeful nebula]

this chat was bound to die once the voting ended

[hollow creek]

I think it’s goodra

[lusty oxide]

I think I can speak for everyone when I say that trubbish is trash

Trubbish is my favourite little piece of garbage

[jaunty pebble]

xurkitree is awesome

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-curious-puzzled-lost-psyduck-gif-13922799

So we're just waiting till the deletion of this channel eh?

[jaunty pebble]

yep osdjkjkj

[dull adder]

Daily reminder to vote 3 for the monk3ys

[woeful nebula]

the vote is over?

[grand hull]

also the monkies??

[warped finch]

6 slots of perfection 🤩

[brisk vessel]

Bloons tower defense

[grand hull]

6 slots of the same thing but different colors might as well just add furfrou if youre talking about its hair

[short garden]

Based but vote’s over

[lethal roost]

the difference is that Furfrou is a single pokemon, but its hairstyles allow for a lot of creativity both as a head (giving other mons sick hairstyles) and a body (giving Furfrou hairstyles based on the mon it's fused with)

the monkeys are practically 2, maybe 3 designs for 6 slots?

[alpine rune]

I want meloetta because she looks funny

[brisk vessel]

[dull adder]

I hope the monkey trio got in

[tame flax]

and someone called cosmog a waste of slots

[lethal roost]

cosmog isn't but cosmoem is

[sturdy jungle]

Cosmog knows even less moves than Cosmoem

[exotic jewel]

Why did Cosmoem even need to be made?

[prisma willow]

That's a good question

[exotic jewel]

It's just Cosmog, but he got hit with the Evil Containment Wave

[glossy osprey]

cosmoem would make a good fusion with guzzlord ngl

[lethal roost]

both of them learn equally useless garbage so "one learns more moves" isnt really relevant to their ability to fight

im referring to them from a design standpoint

[fair jewel]

Damn... no new mons this week

[exotic jewel]

I feel like any fusion Cosmog or Cosmoem make would just be too similar to Palkia or Jirachi's fusions.

[lethal roost]

Cosmog at least seems like it has the ability to be a body? I don't know how you'd manage anything with Cosmoem's body though

and Cosmoem head may very well end up looking quite a bit like Lunala head

[alpine rune]

I hate them both equally

But I'm already over it and pray to god it doesnt get in

[brisk vessel]

Cosmog is just cute fusions
Cosmoem is a waste of a slot

[night oracle]

its sad my cool sprite prob wont get in cause of avalugg haters

[dark prism]

I feel like it would be acceptable to just put Solgaleo and Lunala in without Cosmog or Cosmoem

that said yes the cosmog fusions would be very cute and it'd be shame not to get it for that alone

[lethal roost]

cosmoem is the weak link there for sure
i'd rather have the 2-slot Xerneas and Yveltal over the hypothetical 3-slot Cosmog -> Solgaleo/Lunala any day though
matter of taste ig

[dark prism]

yeah same

Cosmoem really is the sore point because it just kinda exists without any real purpose

[sturdy jungle]

Cosmoem is awesome though

[lethal roost]

ok so how do you make this into a body fusion.

it'd have to get Voltorb levels of commitment behind it and I sincerely doubt it's getting that

[dark prism]

I mean I have no issue with Cosmoem but it doesn't add anything to the game and with how limited our slot options are it's hard to justify

[lethal roost]

Cosmog maybe but not Cosmoem

[dark prism]

not like we get new pokemon added very often either

last time was like 3-4 years ago or something

[sturdy jungle]

Idc about Cosmoem, I just want it to be known that it’s cool and deserves to be in the game alongside it’s prevo, it’s evos and Aurorus

[dark prism]

I just think it's hard to argue for it being there when adding new pokemon is such an endeavor

I think it could make for cool fusions if people wanted to make them but I think Cosmog would get them all between the two

[sturdy jungle]

Look, y’all aren’t getting Cosmog without Cosmoem so take your pick, does your hatred of Cosmoem win or your love of Cosmog

[dark prism]

nobody here hates cosmoem lol

[sturdy jungle]

Idk y’all seem to hate it

[lethal roost]

well then it's 4 slots for the entire thing and I may as well just get X/Y/Z and some single slot i like

[dark prism]

I don't know how you could read a single word I said and derive the idea that I hate the pokemon from that

[lethal roost]

I'm the one who has a problem with Cosmoem not Aurange

[sturdy jungle]

Maybe you don’t Aurange but Hoppip over here who’s base is a bad Pokemon is complaining about a bad mon

[lethal roost]

like on a functional "what does this do as a fusion"

...what does this have to do with any other pokemon

are you referring to gogoat?

[sturdy jungle]

Idk seems weird the guy who is named after a bad mon is complaining about a bad mon. And no, I’m referring to Hoppip

Gogoat is awesome

[lethal roost]

so... what, is this a personal attack or something based on my avatar?

🤨

[sturdy jungle]

No I’m just saying I find it strange how a Hoppip of all mons is complaining about mons that make bad fusions

[rough hound]

I just think these guys are cool

[sturdy jungle]

Agree with Toxicroak and Gastrodon

[dark prism]

I love Dragalge aaaaagh we need more special attacking poison types

[rough hound]

whats wrong with dragalge? =(

[dark prism]

anyways I think it's reasonable to say that it's hard to argue the mon's implementation into the game from an objective standpoint. I don't hate the mon or any mon for that matter and I see what Hoppip is saying

[sturdy jungle]

Idk, just Dragalge has never really clicked with me. I don’t hate it but I don’t love it.

[dark prism]

that's all I have to say about it though

[lethal roost]

you do realize I don't need to advocate for Hoppip's existence in this game, since it was guaranteed? nor do I need to explain why my avatar is a Hoppip?

hoppip does get body fusions, for that matter. cosmoem doesn't even get this going for it

[sturdy jungle]

Wait is it already confirmed it’s in?

[lethal roost]

this is just a really weird ad hominem and i don't care to discuss it any further.

...every gen 1 and 2 mon has been in????

[sturdy jungle]

HOPPIP’S GEN 2!?

[exotic jewel]

Yes

[sturdy jungle]

I ALWAYS THOUGH IT WAS GEN 3!

[lethal roost]

https://tenor.com/view/electrocucion-ampharos-loop-looping-pokemon-gif-22059642

[rough hound]

Personally, ive never even used dragalge in a game (i stopped playing main line at BW2). I just see SO much potential in it

[sturdy jungle]

Ok that Aurorus Dragalge is awesome

[lethal roost]

on the one hand i thought the same thing about slugma for like 5 years
on the other hand HOW

[sturdy jungle]

IDFK MY BRAIN IS SMOOTH

[rough hound]

i even made my own sprite for dragalge, since no one believed it could be a good body (im a beginner, i did my best)

[lethal roost]

YOU DON'T EVEN GET IT IN GEN 3

[sturdy jungle]

I DON’T KNOW THINGS!

[exotic jewel]

Hoppip is one of the first Pokemon you get in G/S/C

[lethal roost]

oh that is excellent actually

[sturdy jungle]

DO YOU THINK I STUDY THE ENCOUNTER TABLES!? I’VE NEVER PLAYED G/S/C/HG/SS

[lethal roost]

oh that makes more sense

[rough hound]

=D

[stone cliff]

Cosmoem when anything:

[sturdy jungle]

I’ve played Lets Go, BDSP, Sword, Scarlet and Violet and ORAS. That’s it.

[lethal roost]

does this mean cosmoem's gonna get a whole football (american) team like glalie did with hockey

[exotic jewel]

I would say "Kick the baby," but Cosmoem weighs more than Groudon

[rough hound]

how did i manage to forget i made another dragalge fusion-

[lethal roost]

the only game its in in there is gen 9 so i guess it's from SV lets gooo

[stone cliff]

One can only hope

[rough hound]

this ones a bit older, it was the first propoganda sprite i made (and like my 3rd in general). meanwhile mawalge was actually the last sprite i made before voting closed and propoganda was no longer needed

[lethal roost]

that one's also excellent though ?? ?? ❤️

[dark prism]

not knowing slugma was gen 2 is pretty common tbf hoppip

[rough hound]

WHERE DID YOU FIND THESE I THOUGHT I HAD EVERYTHING FOR PROPOGANDA?!

[sturdy jungle]

That Meganium art looks too much like if Meganium got a Mega

[dark prism]

you don't even find that thing until postgame. I grew up with Silver and I didn't know that either

[lethal roost]

yeah because slugma wasn't in gen 2 doesn't exist you can't convince me otherwise

[dark prism]

of course I know the exact location it's at these days but when I was a kid nah

[rough hound]

wait so was it in gen 2 or not?

[raw bison]

It was in kanto and not johto so it doesn't count (still salty)

[dark prism]

yes

[lethal roost]

no it was definitely in GSC

[sturdy jungle]

Slugma was Gen 2, but might as well have been Gen 3

[dark prism]

slugma is right outside of pallet town actually

[rough hound]

i know lol, i was tryna get someone to set themselves up for a slugma joke lol

[dark prism]

ahh

[lethal roost]

but only in kanto on routes that barely have grass because gamefreak makes hilarious decisions

literally optional routes too iirc

[sturdy jungle]

Didn’t they do the same to Houndour?

[dark prism]

still doesn't make sense to me

[lethal roost]

yes, but people at least bothered to look for houndour and knew it existed

[dark prism]

yeah Houndour was the same way.

[sturdy jungle]

Well Houndoom is fuckin awesome so of course they did

[lethal roost]

well when Diamond and Pearl came out you couldn't get Tangela or Tangrowth unless you transferred a Tangela from FRLG so it could always be worse

[raw bison]

Yeah, houndour is where my BIG salty comes in. But Houndour, Murkrow and Slugma were some of my favorites of Gen 2 and they're locked behind the post-game wall

[rough hound]

but in case anyones interested, between dragalodon and mawalge i actually made these two goofs

[dark prism]

Gen 2 and Gen 4 have a very similar thing there, where you're kinda starved for fire types

[lethal roost]

(magmortar also required a copy of LeafGreen specifically to get in DP because why would the player ever want to use this cool new pokemon?????)

[dark prism]

yep I remember that lol

[raw bison]

New fire type dog for gen 2! Oh actually did you want Vulpix or Growlithe for your initial run, with Firestones being bloody impossible to find until the post game also??? Shame on them

[dark prism]

I was very confused about it as I had FireRed

[sturdy jungle]

And then BDSP they made Gliscor only obtainable in the postgame

[lethal roost]

tangrowth too iirc

[sturdy jungle]

You could get Gligar, but not Gliscor

[lethal roost]

you know what thing I want the moment I get my nationaldex???? tangrowth, of course! what a cool thing to lock behind natdex huh

all three tangrowth enjoyers crying and sobbing:

[rough hound]

why do i keep forgetting about sprites i made lmao. i literally sprited new bases/alts for all 3 lines of dragicroadon (theyre posted in chronological order)

[sturdy jungle]

Tangrowth is ok in my opinion

[lethal roost]

tangela >>>>>>>>> tangrowth

[rough hound]

oh, and a random lurantis. i like lurantis

[sturdy jungle]

I really like these sprites!

[sturdy jungle]

BASED, LURANTIS IS AWESOME

[outer matrix]

Lurantis is my favorite contrary user

[sturdy jungle]

Same

I like Serperior more in concept, but I feel it doesn’t work as well due to its shit coverage

[dark prism]

(i like tangrowth a lot)

[lethal roost]

yeah I definitely want either Lurantis or Malamar for hilarious hijinks

[dark prism]

I like Tangela more but Tangrowth has grown on me a lot over the years

[lethal roost]

but i'm more of a malamar enjoyer

[sturdy jungle]

Lurantis was really good in Great League for a bit in Pokemon Go

[outer matrix]

I kinda want malamar for a few splatoon references (tentacool could work, but I prefer something that's not a jellyfish)

[rough hound]

as an emo who hates all things pastel and pretty, lurantis gets a pass from my hatred of all things pink. i also love how it took the idea of the orchid mantis, which is a bug mimicking a plant, and just did the opposite lmao

[sturdy jungle]

Ok at least you admit to being a pastel hating emo, and yeah fair Lurantis is awesome

[outer matrix]

Lurantis' shiny is also good 👍 👍

[sturdy jungle]

True

[lethal roost]

PASTEL GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

[rough hound]

lmao, anyone who doesnt admit to it is trying too hard. im the real deal. a metalhead too lol\

[lethal roost]

yeah it has a way better shiny than malamar

[sturdy jungle]

I feel like Lurantis did the color scheme other grass mons couldn’t, that nice shade of pink with a nice green shiny

[proper schooner]

For sure

[exotic jewel]

Malamar's shiny wouldn't be so bad if its head was a different color.

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/tangrowth-pokemon-tangela-beam-cute-monster-gif-14508846623429222104

[outer matrix]

There should be a grass type that's just autumn colors for regular and white for winter shiny

[rough hound]

to be fair, it was hard to mess up. lurantis is based on one of the coolest animals on earth

[lethal roost]

true

[outer matrix]

There should be a convergent lurantis where it's based off of a mantis shrimp

Both have pretty colors

[rough hound]

youre thinking of the peacock mantis shrimp specifically. not all of them are that colorful

[hushed mantle]

We need a mantis shrimp pokemon with 150 attack and speed

[exotic jewel]

EWWW!!

[rough hound]

personally, i actually planned to make a legendary bug type fakemon based on a spiny flower mantis a while back. i mean look at the thing, its already got a crown!

i think anything that has to do with a mantis is just automatically cool tbh

[fallen loom]

the one on the left looks like it's saying "I'm so cute"

[acoustic locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702626820876533851/1087997407737954345/7fdxgb.gif

just gonna leave that here

[steep glen]

How long does it take to tally votes?

[exotic jewel]

I think it's less about them tallying votes at this stage and more about putting the winners in the game. Coding takes a long ass time.

[alpine rune]

I think theyre revealing it 1 week at a time

[steep glen]

Ya but just releaving which one so people can start in the sprites for them

[exotic jewel]

That makes sense.

[frank oxide]

yestersay we were arguing about (if slurpuff gets in) what bug mon would be wich bugnsax,kinda fun

me when onix is sandopede

[marsh lily]

wait what

Since when did he shoot LASERS?

[marsh lily]

Heracross + Slurpuff = Bunger.

[high haven]

Since when could Whooper punch

[exotic jewel]

Since gen 2

[high haven]

Not the point

[exotic jewel]

His entire body is the fist.

[fair jewel]

I never knew there was such a gorgeous insect

A mantis with butterfly wings? Holy

[high haven]

What I meant was you shouldn't question the absurdity of Pokémon and what moves they can or cannot learn

[hushed mantle]

Apparently it’s absorb

[high haven]

Looks more like single beam (not sure if Tangrowth can actually learn it or not but that's what my gut's telling me)

[lethal roost]

since always

[high haven]

Off topic, but something I always found cool was that both Zangoose & Seviper learn Final Gambit as egg moves, like to me it solidifies that generational kill on sight rivalry that those two have with eachother

Just found out the Japanese name for Final Gambit is Life Risk. Holy hell that's metal

[alpine rune]

i wonder what if zangoose and seviper fuse with each other

Would it be like a Jekyll & Hyde situation, or an emo kid trying to [put toaster in the bathtub] himself?

[marsh lily]

Uh.

It'd just be them fighting.

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-poppers-penguins-jim-carrey-hey-why-are-you-hitting-yourself-why-are-you-hitting-yourself-gif-19202893

[green yew]

I want this.

[manic silo]

I love this one

[exotic jewel]

Croagunk gang signs

[manic silo]

Fr

[gusty shuttle]

Hello guys
Who are we propaganding today

Someone do Pidove propaganda for me
I'll pay in good wishes

[exotic jewel]

Voting is over no more propaganda.

pls. am tired of it, we get enough of that in hollywood.

[sterile spoke]

I can also categorically assure you that the Pidove line would be somewhere near the bottom of the vote progpaganda or not. 😦

At the end of the day, it's just another regional bird when we have three of them already. 😅

[sturdy breach]

Not to mention it has one of the more hated last evos of any regional bird

[dusty arrow]

technically 4 if you count the fearow line

[sterile spoke]

The Fearow line doesn't count. 😂

[lethal roost]

nah fearow is a regional bird

source: my dreams

[gusty shuttle]

Voting is over but institutional corruption never ends 👀

[exotic jewel]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[gusty shuttle]

He's not just another, but nobody understands it except few chosens 😔

[exotic jewel]

It's just a pigeon that turns into a quail for some reason.

What's so special about it?

[white meadow]

Ngl Fearow deserved the mega more than Pidgeot

[sterile spoke]

It's not, though. 😛

[tame flax]

i consider espathra to be the gen 9 bird

purely based on the fact of how common it is

[sterile spoke]

Gen IX is weird, because by all means it should be Kilowattrel, but I didn't see a Wattrel until like halfway through the game. 😅

The same way that Tandemaus sort of fills the rodent/marsupial role, but Lechonk is way more common. 😮

[charred grotto]

That's because they put Wattrel where IRL petrels actually live

[tame flax]

i didnt know ostriches lived all over spain

[tranquil tundra]

are there any new discovers aside palosand line?

[tame flax]

Nope, and there's no reveal this week, so it gonna be slow

[tranquil tundra]

😭

[white meadow]

You mean the first route mammal?
Like zigzagoon etc

[white meadow]

Wait there is no reveal?
Who said that?

[elfin forge]

Wdym?

[white meadow]

Wouldnt they have said that in a announcement

[white meadow]

Ouh I think its about the Datamineing

[tame flax]

#event-announcements

[white meadow]

Wow that a shame and not worth
As if we need a contest that everyone makes sprites for the new mon

I waited a whole week for nothing wow

[sharp nebula]

who knows it might be monday next week

[gusty shuttle]

You were waiting for this the whole week? geez

[white meadow]

Yeah my life dont have a lot 😂

[gusty shuttle]

Tbh this game is more addictive than actual drugs

[white meadow]

Btw what if they dont reveal a new mon but confirm a datamined one

[tame flax]

I wouldn't get my hopes up

[lusty oxide]

I would get my hopes down

[warm glen]

I would keep my hopes in the middle

[sturdy breach]

You guys had any hope to begin with? 😮

[lusty oxide]

No not really

[obsidian wedge]

Giys

[warm glen]

Well, by now I just don't know what's gonna get in, and after some last Marshadow sprites I'll finish later, I might just not care about trying to boost it anymore. Getting bored of trying since it only works half the time

[obsidian wedge]

Guys*

I need a new Sprite for Double Cloyster

[sturdy breach]

#sprite-requests ?

[pale flame]

Stupid fish.

[sterile spoke]

Not the channel for this, which you've been told a few times. Don't let it happen again. 😦

[plush bough]

https://tenor.com/view/salazzle-pokemon-head-turning-worried-gif-23852133

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/wimpod-gif-26500976

[civic harness]

Hello there

Although the votes closed, I come to see what people are doing now

[glossy osprey]

I'm still guzzing

[violet pawn]

new announcement today⁉️

[short garden]

the guzzler !!!!!!!

[crude garden]

We're doing what we've always done here

[civic harness]

Maybe

[neat hemlock]

Voting for pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/meowscarada-floragato-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-13221709895947169089

[gentle ferry]

Guess if we want random topics: if there were Pokémon up to be voted from gen 8/9, which ones would you really want added?

For me it’d prolly be:

1. Tinkaton
2. Falinks
3. Garganacl

[glossy osprey]

I'd be a skeleridge fanatic

[white meadow]

Farigiraf
Ahniliape
The other new evos

[tame talon]

I would go with firigiraf ahnihilape and dudunsparce

[frozen oyster]

Grimmsnarl
Indeedee
dudunsparce

Or swap out dudunsparce with ursaluna since that counts as a gen 8 I think

[naive cobalt]

Armarouge
Meowscarada
Walking wake

[outer matrix]

• Ceruledge
• Tinkaton
• Any one of the paradoxes

[prisma urchin]

Id go with Tinkaton- Hammer wielding chaos fairy fusions would be great, Palafin - A superhero version of each would also be awesome, and probably one of the Hisuian Evolutions since they’re gen 8 I think

[graceful torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/arctozolt-pokemon-fossil-pokemon-snow-gif-19079510

[oblique sigil]

1. orthworm
2. Miraidon
   3)Koraidon

[prisma urchin]

Omg I forgot the fossil fusions from gen 8! I change my answer to all of them (I know you said 3, but tough, I want them all)

[violet pawn]

I love these guys, my favorite fossil mons

[oblique sigil]

imagine dinosaur pokemon

[clever atlas]

Stonjourner, Orbeetle, Alcremie, tries to remember the gen 8 Dex oh yeah Boltund too

[prisma urchin]

Fusion could finally make them whole

[graceful torrent]

he does not need change he is PERFECT

[naive cobalt]

I’m sure he doesn’t agree

[tame flax]

How would it make them whole when there's no complete set?

[prisma urchin]

Some of them could be made whole

Or it could a self fusion alts or something

Idk also the spiritomb fusions would be dope since most fossil mon are Keystone fossils with dinosaur spirits spiritomb could be like two spirits being pulled together but trying to pull apart

[frozen oyster]

I feel like it's such a missed opportunity to have the fossil mons from 8 actually EVOLVE

Like, they'd go from their weird chimeric forms and evolve into something completely new and never before seen, which felt appropriate for pokemon

[sterile verge]

Dracovish

[white meadow]

1. White Basculin (For Basculegion Fusions)
2. Ursaluna
3. Wyrdeer

That's what I think should be added based on Design and/or Necessities for I.F.

[prisma willow]

Tinkaton, that one poison/electric salamander, Centiscorch, Ceruledge

All the Ceruledge line fusions would just be Megaman characters.

[white meadow]

Meanwhile, I personally want

1. Cinderace
2. Urshifu
3. Tinkaton

In that exact order

[prisma willow]

Would would say Hatterene, but we already have a Fairy/Psychic waifu Mon and a witch themed Mon.

[white meadow]

*Changes to List for Gens 8-9:

1. Cinderace
2. Hatterene
3. Kubfu

[sturdy breach]

for 8/9,

1. Meowscarada
2. Tinkaton
3. Dragapult

[white meadow]

Pokemon I personally want within the Limits of Gen 7 or Below

1. Gourgeist
2. Incineroar
3. Araquanid

[sturdy breach]

Within the current vote Limits:

1. Goodra
2. Lurantis
3. Salazzle

[white meadow]

*Further Change to Gen 8/9 List

1. Meowscarada
2. Cinderace
3. Hatterene

[sturdy breach]

Also talk about an unpopular opinion on #2 there

[white meadow]

Cinderace can be an Actual Bunny/Rabbit/Hare Fusion instead of being... Overly sexualized... like Lopunny Fusions.

[tame flax]

Delete cinderace

There are few designs I hate more

[white meadow]

It's better than Lopunny because it won't just automatically be an innuendo for anything

[tame flax]

If you want a rabbit, go with diggersby

[white meadow]

Cinderace brings something that isn't just Normal Type most of the time, so it also has that going for it

[tame flax]

Because cinderace isn't a rabbit, he's a guy in a fur suit

[white meadow]

How come you say that?

[tame flax]

How can you not?

There's an actual rabbit and you choose the fursuit?

[white meadow]

Because I don't Stereotype Pokemon with any Innuendos, even though I know some of them. It doesn't matter if it's Vaporeon, Gardevoir, Cinderace, or anything! I treat Pokemon fairly based on the Actual Stats and Stuff instead of Solely on just the Design. And I hate how almost everyone assumes and goes along with innuendos on any Pokemon regardless of the Circumstances.

[sterile verge]

There's a cool football playing fire type rabbit and you choose a normal type big chungus?

[sturdy breach]

Too humanoid for some people's tastes, they can't help themselves

[tame flax]

You mean the lame soccer rabbit who looks like his feet should snap in two whenever he runs?

[sterile verge]

my brother most people forgot Diggersby even exists

[white meadow]

Well they could say the same about Meowscarada, Incineroar, or anything! And I won't care about it whatsoever, because I like what I've had during Experiences through the Games

[sturdy breach]

They do, actually, and to each their own I guess. Meowscarada is my favourite starter, Cinderace my 3rd.

I do not like Incineroar personally.

[sterile verge]

as a person who wants more 4 legged final evo's of starters, i agree

[final spire]

i need seedot

please tell me yal voted for seedot

we need seedot for pikmin fustions

[white meadow]

Who needs Seedot for Pikmin Fusions when you have Bayleaf, Chikorita, and the Oddish Evolutionary Line?

[wispy cobalt]

alright, what pokemon we feeling today

[white meadow]

I'm wanting Gourgeist

[sturdy breach]

next week you mean?

[wispy cobalt]

i mean they're revealing every friday/saturday, right?

[sturdy breach]

#event-announcements message

[wispy cobalt]

oh nO

[white meadow]

I still think its stupid that they say they only reveal when they can do a contest

[white meadow]

Especially since Trubbish and Garbodor got in and didn't even have one

[wispy cobalt]

i mean its nice to have a motivated flurry of sprite creation for each new reveal

poor trubbish

[naive cobalt]

If you look at a Pokémon and the first thing you think is furry bait your probably the problem

[tame flax]

I dont think furry bait, I think he looks like he's wearing a lame costume

[pale flame]

Agreed

[white meadow]

How so? Because it looks more like the Fur is only making a Colored Pattern of sorts.

I don't see and don't want to see anything that tries to make a Pokemon Better or Worse, I just try to stick to my personal beliefs unless someone convinces me through persuasion, like the Necrozma Argument about a Week or Two ago

[sterile spoke]

Were you persuaded for or against Necrozma? 🙂

[buoyant sluice]

Against

[lusty cosmos]

D:

[white meadow]

I was initially against Necrozma because I thought it'd be nothing more than Jagged Black Armor like what Aegislash did but with more Colors and Smoother Design. But after a lot of convincing, I eventually agreed with how Necrozma is alright if it does end up getting in, but I'm still keeping a Semi-Oath to Rarely or Almost Never make a Necrozma Fusion. The only time I'd do one is if a Contest was held for it.

And even that's still unlikely

[white meadow]

Why do you ask? Do you know something that we don't, or are you just curious?

[brisk vessel]

There's some datamined leaks that imply a Necrozma event in the new update

Its not confirmed but there are files and code for an "Ultra Forest" and "Strange Prisms"

[sterile spoke]

I'm going to post my anti-Necrozma rant again. 😂

[lusty oxide]

What

[white meadow]

Oh no

[sterile spoke]

Here's my anti-Necrozma propaganda as to why it's a redundant fusion candidate: 😛

Almost entirely black palette: Zekrom
Ultra's almost entirely white palette: Reshiram
Fuses with other Legendaries to create new forms: Kyurem
Blocky shapes: Porygon
Prismatic/glassy elements: Chandelure and now especially Sableye
Mono-Psychic: Alakazam, Hypno and Espeon
Prism Armour: Filter and Solid Rock

[white meadow]

Hang on your wha-

[brisk vessel]

Ultra is yellow wdym

[buoyant sluice]

This is not very surprising because necrozma is very popular
But I still don't like him

[sterile spoke]

It depends on how you go about it. 😛

I personally see it as white with yellow accents. 😅

[brisk vessel]

Idk about u but that looks yellow to me

[white meadow]

Maybe you could add the Aegislash "Armor" Argument too for Fusing?

[white meadow]

To be fair its more the mix in it
We could play that game on quiet some mons

Give me a mon you like so I can do a example

[sterile spoke]

We could, but when we have 20 slots, it's best being critical. 😅

Especially when it comes to a mono-Psychic Legendary/Mythical. We've got at least three of them already. 😛

I suspect Cresselia's gonna happen. 😉

[white meadow]

Thats a big point I give you

[sterile spoke]

If we're doing Legendaries, my top pick is Diancie. 🙂

[white meadow]

We still have, like, 24 Slots left WDYM?

[sterile spoke]

No, 14. 😛

Anything else is a bonus pick. 😅

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-thinking-confused-doing-math-calculations-gif-16034457

Mathnt

[lusty oxide]

Meth

[sterile spoke]

Unique typing, combines gems with rocks in a way that no other Pokémon (bar Carbink, who's got no chance), nice pastel palette, adds another Fairy-type for type diversity, and quite unique compared to many of the Legendaries/Mythicals currently in IF. 🙂

Sableye and Diancie are both gem Pokémon, but the way in which they utilise gems is quite markedly different. 😄

[white meadow]

Designg wise we could splitt aspects like you did on necrozma and than we have gems and rock aka Sableye/starmie and 50% of rock types

[sterile spoke]

Not really, because no current IF Rock-type has gems. 😅

[white meadow]

Well I thought it was 30 Slots, and that the Only Non-Staff Picks were the Tyrantrum and Snorunt Evolutionary Lines

Yeah but adding a and is something I could do on necrozma

[sterile spoke]

20 from the vote. 🙂

Anything else is a bonus. 😄

[white meadow]

But lets not fight against it
Just let us agree that Gogoat deserves a place in PIF

[sterile spoke]

Better than Necrozma by quite a wide margin, but I'm not chomping at the bit for more mono-Grass Pokémon. 😦

Poison, Ice, Fighting, Dark and Fairy are the types I'm rooting for. 😄

[white meadow]

The Original Argument that I remembered was something along the lines of if we had all 3 Starter Groups in, then we would barely get any other new Pokemon. Which meant that we'd still have Pokemon

[sterile spoke]

That was never an option. 😛

Because 20 come from the vote. 😉

[white meadow]

Than staff pick or Contest winner Gogoat

[sterile spoke]

No, they should pick Ribombee. 🙂

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/dali-goat-dance-funny-friends-gif-25393149

[sterile spoke]

Nice pastel palette, unique eye style, it accessorises, and it's pretty fun to use in battle. 😄

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-fairy-cute-gif-22197024

And also, a Fairy-type. 🙂

[sturdy breach]

This though

[lusty oxide]

Ribombee is best gen 7 bug sorry golisopod fans

[sterile spoke]

Both are great. Gen VII had some fantastic Bug-types. 😄

[sterile spoke]

I'd root for Golisopod to be added to IF, but I think it's got too much going on visually to be fun fusion material. 😦

[white meadow]

Not even Ghost? I live as the Leader of the Grass/Ghost Type Alliance. And I at the very least want Gourgeist in

[sterile spoke]

Ghost is one of the most proportionally overrepresented types in IF, I think. 😮

[white meadow]

Golisopede

[sterile spoke]

And we have Froslass now. 🙂

Potentially Palossand, too. 😄

Two new final forms is enough for Ghost, I reckon. 😉

[sturdy breach]

Proportionally isn't Fairy quite well represented as well?

[sterile spoke]

Though Trevenant or Gourgeist would also be neat. 🙂

[hushed mantle]

wasn’t palossand leaked or smth?

[sterile spoke]

Yes, but there are less of them in total. 😅

So they kind of have to be if you want a decent selection. 😦

[white meadow]

Cube

[lusty oxide]

Cube

[white meadow]

how roll

[clever atlas]

3d square

[naive cobalt]

I don’t see how that makes necrozma redundant when it’s filling in all these fusion types by itself

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/geometry-dash-gif-24172699

that's sliding tho

And jump

[white meadow]

Actually yeah, I think your Argument is just an explanation as to WHY Necrozma could be so much Capability at Once, thus making you a Supporter

[sturdy breach]

Might not be a positive thing though, 1 aspect gets picked for the fusion and the others get relegated to alt sprites by default

[white meadow]

Strawberry Goat slug

[white meadow]

Eh... We don't really need Gogoat

Necrozma but best boy

[white meadow]

We dont really need whatever you voted

[white meadow]

@willow axle

[willow axle]

zerocipher

__Ignored:__ - Incomprehensible name - Filename : Necrozma.422.png - Colours : 16 - Similarity : 3

[Link to message](#pif-hoenn-discussion message)

Necrozma but best boy

[white meadow]

Sorry, I wanted to check how many Colors it had because the Eyes Alone had SO many Colors

Well I took necrozmas "eyes"

[sterile spoke]

Doesn't do it for me. 😦

The black and white is very Zebstrika. 😢

[lusty oxide]

I read this while getting my ass beat by one

[white meadow]

Imagine pokemon haveing the same/similiar colors

[white meadow]

Again
Y

Because Gogoat is Pure Grass, when almost all of our Fusions are Grass-Types. In comparison, Gourgeist could at least also increase Ghost Types too.

[white meadow]

Not all are pure Grass type

• it atleast gives quiet some coverage and unique moves when we already talk about that aspect

[fallen loom]

what does similarity 3 mean?
(I know it's a bot, I just want to know)

[prisma willow]

Imagine if ice wasn't super unbalanced in a bad way and had a couple of resistances

[naive cobalt]

Imagine if ice wasn’t completely neglected by gamefreak with somehow less pokemon than the fairy type

[hushed mantle]

Imagine if ice types melted

[lusty oxide]

Imagine if bug types weren’t resisted by so many types

[lapis hawk]

👍

[prisma willow]

Imagine if Gamefreak stopped trying to make ice types into tanks despite the type resisting nothing.

[naive cobalt]

Imagine if steel didn’t resist everything even types it has no reason to resist

[lusty oxide]

Imagine if the type chart was actually balanced

[crude garden]

Imagination Dragons

[lusty oxide]

No

[old kayak]

Magination

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-imagination-rainbow-happy-gif-4596954

[violet pawn]

hello guys you are great

[dry nest]

[ashen temple]

I doubt anyone can say but how tf do staff picks work? I doubt every staff member gets a pick. Do some staff just get special privileges or do they get their own vote

[hollow grove]

I 100% want meloeta in the 20 picked

[old kayak]

In today's staff pick: Luigi Mario!

[prisma urchin]

✊ Rise up fellow Necrozma disliker! Also I feel like you should get a staff pick from the list as its your birthday soon 👀 (At least I assume it is from the contest)

[old kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-supermario-gif-13993344

[prisma urchin]

I vaguely remember there being something about there being only 1 staff pick and some of the staff confused as to Kiwi getting a pick also, but don't remember who/where I heard that

[ashen temple]

Oh, weird

[prisma urchin]

Don't wanna start any rumors tho, so take that with like an ocean of salt, I could be misremembering entirely

[ashen temple]

Yeah ofc. There’s just been 9 Pokémon now that weren’t part of the OG 20 and at this point how many more are we gonna add yknow

[surreal scaffold]

Probably because this server is an organized mess

[ashen temple]

Not that I’m opposed, lol

[hollow grove]

the more pokemon the better

[prisma urchin]

afaik the only other freebie we will likely get is the contest winner's pick which will just be one of the contest winners from the contests for the new mon's chosen at random and their pick goes in

So enter the contests if you want a chance to guarantee one of your faves

But I wouldn't be opposed to everything getting added in. They claim technical limitations, but I reckon its a big conspiracy

[ashen temple]

They claimed technical limitations, but frog man has also said in the new playtest he had to “completely remake how the game handled fusions from the ground up”

Which, if he graces us so, might have removed said limitations

[prisma urchin]

Exactly! They have the power

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-i-want-to-believe-spaceship-mothership-ufo-gif-9472798

[ashen temple]

If there was any time to do such a thing it’d be right now

[hollow grove]

so its posible we get all 1000 pokemon?

[surreal scaffold]

Unlikely

[ashen temple]

At least up to Gen 7, game doesn’t support gen 8 but that might also be possible now? Idk

[prisma urchin]

Probably not, I just like to be a little tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist

Japeal doesn't support anything past gen 7 I think so its unlikely, unless it starts to

[ashen temple]

I meant trubbish was just kinda surprise stuffed in there

[surreal scaffold]

The Devs have already pushed this game to its limits & trying to push it anymore isn't feasible unless they clean up more corners

[prisma urchin]

Yeah I reckon if it goes too much more itll become unplayable for some people with less powerful machines

[ashen temple]

It’s possible if we ever get a remake in a new engine with a new code base. The game is also limited by its engine

[prisma urchin]

My pc struggles with downloading the sprite packs sometimes and its pretty new

[surreal scaffold]

Getting a remake would take a year or more my dude.

[prisma urchin]

Yeah its not possible any time soon, but the possibility does exist. Depends on how far Frogman wants to take it tbh

[surreal scaffold]

& All I want is a few more Gen 3 Mon's

[prisma urchin]

Plus gotta consider the ever looming threat of the Nintendo DMCA hammer which could come at any time tbh

They do hate their fan's games

[hollow grove]

its not our fault they make shitty 3d pokemon game now

[prisma urchin]

I miss pixel art pokemon

[wraith gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sharpedo-shark-gif-23844050

https://tenor.com/view/sharpedo-pokemon-eat-you-died-pov-gif-27016557

https://tenor.com/view/slowpoke-pokemon-water-psychic-gif-7898046

vote carvanha line

[white meadow]

Sharpedo jumpscare

[prisma urchin]

It's wild how low budget the last few games have felt. The horrible textures in Legends and the Buggy release of Scarlet and Violet have been kinda let down.
Like Scarlet and Violet could have easily been voice acted, and it would have worked. The silent conversations feel so weird in 3d especially when they animate the mouths

[ashen temple]

That’s why I said “if we ever get a remake” lol. This is far down the line.

[hollow grove]

yes

[gentle ferry]

idk in my opinion they did a lot right in those games outside the bugs. Story and actual gameplay felt great to me, was for sure far better than SWSH.

[thorny ferry]

New announcement today (probably)

[gentle ferry]

Who's gonna tell them

[prisma urchin]

Nah no new mons this week

[prisma urchin]

Me apparently

[thorny ferry]

Top 5 saddest moments

[violet pawn]

source??

[thorny ferry]

Why tho

[violet pawn]

Idk

[prisma urchin]

#event-announcements

[violet pawn]

it's kinda weird that usually this chat is decently active around this time due to the announcement but now there hasn't been a message in almost 40 minutes

[tired kettle]

yes because voting is over

[white meadow]

Yeah it sucks that they dont announce anything cuz of the bday contest

[hollow grove]

maybe i should do a contest never done one because my fusions are not that good to win it

[tired kettle]

yes

[white meadow]

They act like we dont make sprites for the new mons even tho we would

[white meadow]

Maybe the community should make a inofficial contest😂

[silent acorn]

Surprisingly this is still alive and hasn't been nuked

[violet pawn]

there is still the future announcements to discuss

[silent acorn]

The waiting really creates and addiction to checking announcements

[silent acorn]

Myb but sometimes some snitch comes here telling everyone to shut up

[violet pawn]

what?

[silent acorn]

You Heard me

They tend To pop here and mention how useless this thread is

[violet pawn]

I have not seen anything of the sort

[silent acorn]

Sometimes it happens in between the week or something

Not always, it's a huge turnoff from posting here and discussing possible future announcements

[violet pawn]

ok

[silent acorn]

Anyway ignoring that

Probably Palossand is gonna be the next one if it isn't a staff bonus, or necrozma

Because of leaking pipes

[violet pawn]

aah alright

[silent acorn]

To be honest I am not looking forward to if goodra is one because we lose one slot for another contest

I was theorizing that the more contest they make the more overall chance mon picks could be added to the total sum

[violet pawn]

I think goodra would be great

[silent acorn]

Eh it's three slots and if both goodra and noivern get in, or kommo-o gets in we get overall less new mons

Including one stage legendary or mythicals

Like I just wanna see more variety to be honest

[violet pawn]

nah, I think there is a certain amount of staff picks and what pokemon get voted don't have any effect on their amount

[silent acorn]

I rather have ones like goodra and kommo-o be staff or contest picks so maybe we could have more open space in community vote

[violet pawn]

also I don't really feel like talking anymore so I'm leaving you here alone. bye bye

[silent acorn]

Bye bye

[upper talon]

Great i Hope they do announcement

[thorny ferry]

Looks like it won't happen 😿

[cinder oasis]

Damn, next week is boring

We haven't gotten a community vote revealed in a while now

[frank oxide]

im waiting for my application to be noticed rn

[surreal scaffold]

GL with that

[frank oxide]

nah its fine

[gentle ferry]

something something Gastrodon good

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[grand hull]

diancie

also wouldnt gastradon be 4 slots?

[tame flax]

Nope, 2

We found out that while some forms might take pokedex entries, they won't take slots

[grand hull]

but with oricorio being 4 slots would gastradon have its forms as different pokemon too

[white meadow]

i think that multiple slots would be reserved to forms that actually have different stats

[grand hull]

yeah

[tame flax]

As mentioned, while oricorio takes 4 dex slots, it's only counted as 1 mon slot for the sake of the vote, had it been a voted mon

Otherwise lycanroc would be 5

Also if forms counted

Anyone hoping for alcremie would have to stop hoping forever

There like what, 16 forms?

There's 63

[clever atlas]

63 iirc or something like that

[tame flax]

Forms counting would straight cancel that mon

[clever atlas]

Spinda moment

[hushed mantle]

So hoopa is still 1 slot?

[tame flax]

Most likely

[hushed mantle]

LETS GOOO

[tame flax]

Hoopa would be neat

[grand hull]

Hoopa could be 2 though cause it would need an item to form change and it changes stats

[short garden]

4,294,967,296 slots moment:

[clever atlas]

That's exactly what i was getting at

[violet pawn]

I read on bulbapedia that the actual amount of spinda patterns is slightly less than 4 billion, because there are so many identical looking patterns

[short garden]

slightly less than 4,294,967,296 slots moment:

[violet pawn]

the actual number is 3,945,136,128 patterns

[short garden]

3,945,136,138 slots moment:

https://tenor.com/view/spin-pokemon-spinning-gif-10219959

[hushed mantle]

I want to make a fusion of wooper/spinda No. 182,483,031

[sharp sphinx]

voting closed

[silent acorn]

Hey just asking but anyone still have the propaganda posters? I think they were cool and I would like to look at them again

[white meadow]

I have these and a old Goomy one

Well and some NGS advertisement

[silent acorn]

Oh thanks and good luck to yours!

[white meadow]

Thanks

[silent acorn]

By the. Way I did vote golisopod

[white meadow]

Good luck with yours
And to be fair
I hope you get your Sawsbuck aslong as I get my Goat

[silent acorn]

We disagree on goat but I agree your picks are solid, I hope you get your goat even if I don't get my deer

[white meadow]

If you get your Deer I hope it gets all the forms as forms and not just alts

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[outer matrix]

|| Necrozma is pretty much confirmed due to playtester build ||

[white meadow]

Slurpuff/Scolipede lol

Or that

[fallen loom]

There's more than 2 flavours?!

[hushed mantle]

There’s more than 1 flavour?!

[lusty oxide]

Stop talking about Slurpuff fusions I’m getting hungry…

[tame flax]

Slurpgoat would have croissant horns

[white meadow]

Omg yessss

[tame flax]

Slurptres would be a smore bird

With marshmallow chocolatey wings

[white meadow]

The rest could be a eclaire again since we can make the pelt into choclate or so

Like a Sweet breakfast

[graceful torrent]

So if the Oricorio’s are different mons in the dex (kinda) does that mean we could also get regional variants

[white meadow]

Maybe

[graceful torrent]

GIVE ME MY ALOLAN NINETAILS AND SANDSLASH

[white meadow]

Ninetales meh
Sandslash would be usefull

[hushed mantle]

Ninetales literally sets hail

[surreal scaffold]

I just want Gen 3 Mon's 😔

[lusty oxide]

I want gen 5 mons

[white meadow]

i want gen 7 mons

[lusty oxide]

I want gen 9 mons

[white meadow]

🗣️🗣️

[silent acorn]

The best possible combo

[white meadow]

Ik the quality is ass but Tyrangoat

[silent acorn]

Floatzel looks good!

[white meadow]

Lets be honest
There is no "no potential" since there will always be people makeing awesome sprites
No matter if its Gogoat
Sawsbuck
Or Necrozma ||yes Blaquaza even when you think it just repeats everythig||
In the end its the spriters that put in theyr ideas and make the fusions we love
Thats why I gave a lot of 3 when Voteing was open since I saw a lot of potential
I think I only gave 2 0

Everything can work no matter if we like them or not
Good example are the sprites I made over the voteing time

[gentle ferry]

Here’s some of mine

[old kayak]

I do love me some slugs

[lusty oxide]

The votes got me into spriting

[gentle ferry]

same lol

[white meadow]

The non PIF ones are my favorites here lol

[lusty oxide]

Was that a sentence?

[white meadow]

Would you consider makeing a goat slug

[surreal scaffold]

Tropius
Corphish
😔

[gentle ferry]

If it wins then absolutely. Can't promise immediately outside that though cause I'm trying to make some sprites for the game atm (Got one to finish then I can start my contest entry)

[white meadow]

👍

[lusty oxide]

I will definitely get on that leavanny fusion grind if it wins

[white meadow]

Or you make some already and than wait
Its likely that we get leavanny at one point and if that time comes we have a lot of sprites from you already

[lusty oxide]

Again I have two but I also don’t want my effort to get wasted

[modest quiver]

if gastrodon gets in i really really hope it gets reversed typing for fusion

really need a good ground type head. there is currently none

[lusty oxide]

I did participate in the venipede mini contest

[white meadow]

Show me what your fusion for it was

[lusty oxide]

Don’t have it on my phone lol it was Eevee/venipede

[white meadow]

[silent acorn]

Thanks! Appreciate it!

[white meadow]

That one right?

[lusty oxide]

Yep that’s it!

[white meadow]

I like it

That was mine

[lusty oxide]

I also did a shiny sylveon custom base recently

[white meadow]

I saw it
Its nice

[lusty oxide]

For me the custom base was harder than the fusions cos I had to work from the ground up

[white meadow]

They often are

[lusty oxide]

You know I wanted to make its left paw be lifted up in the beginning but I don’t know how to sprite that lol

[white meadow]

Maybe look at cat and fox anatomy

[lusty oxide]

For me the problem is mainly taking my ideas and putting them into a sprite/drawing

[silent acorn]

Yo ZA VACUUM

[lusty oxide]

But maybe actually having the image I was basing it on to use as a reference would have worked better

[silent acorn]

You mena for custom bases or poses? I seen people make little doodles before actually making the Sprite

I once gave a guy I knew rest his soul a drawing of a dragon I made all the way back in high school by tracing even thought I am crap at art, and he made me an awesome wood dragon

[lusty oxide]

I was gonna base it of the paldea Dex image

[silent acorn]

I still keep it as the best gift he gave me before he passed away

People often rag on tracing too much, not everyone can make good use of the circle head technique, sometimes you just have to take the approach that best works at the time

[lusty oxide]

Nvm I misremember the image lol

I think the problem is that I’m stupid

[silent acorn]

Nah no one is stupid we just take stupid desicions sometimes

[silent acorn]

Like there is only desicions that work and some that don't we can't nail them all

[silent acorn]

This was a good desicion.

I played a lot of cards on feminine pokemon... Please girls survive the slaughter