pif-hoenn-discussion

[gentle ferry]

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[white meadow]

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[gentle ferry]

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[silent acorn]

I think its better they are different that way they dont look the same, also gastrodon body fusions will Just take the face of whatever you put in it

[gentle ferry]

I think my favorite (and the one I'll hang onto) is the "Hello Chat" one. Others are gonna be chucked now that propaganda is over.

[crude garden]

Did somebody say propaganda?!

[mild sedge]

people don’t give a shit when I appear - it’s signal!

[gentle ferry]

Well, when in rome…

[hushed mantle]

i did it

[mild sedge]

b a s s e d

[prisma urchin]

What site do you use to make these I wanna do one

[violet pawn]

https://cajunavenger.github.io/

[white meadow]

https://cajunavenger.github.io/

[mild sedge]

Yep

[violet pawn]

sucker

[white meadow]

e

[violet pawn]

h

[humble pasture]

Is there a My Singing Monsters fan here?

[violet pawn]

yes there is (you)

[inland jewel]

Just because Sawsbuck is a regular deer (Unfused) doesn't mean he can't have cool fusions

[gentle ferry]

Oh that's much more convenient than what I had to do once for it lol

[humble pasture]

Other than me

[inland jewel]

Like, why hate on Sawsbuck lovers when its literally gonna have cool fusions like Gogoat

[tame flax]

Are you trying to advertise the thing again?

[humble pasture]

Advertise what

Oh yeah my camp

[tame flax]

You mentioned it before, I forget what

[humble pasture]

Want to join?

[tame flax]

No, and this isn't really the place to ask since it's pretty off topic

[vestal wharf]

10/25 yall

Vote croagunk

[violet pawn]

voting closed bozo

[vestal wharf]

Aw shit man 😭

[honest tartan]

dont tell "propaganda posters" the voting closed so they can further embarass themselves ty

[dark prism]

lmao

[tame flax]

I bet he missed garbodor and the leaks too lol

[white meadow]

Who

[violet pawn]

frogman

[white meadow]

In what context?
He likes the leaks and Garbodor was a suprise for us

[violet pawn]

im jorking

[clever atlas]

Don't post propaganda and noone will tell them

[white meadow]

Ooooh

[hushed mantle]

That’s why i changed my name from “vote hoopa” to “add hoopa”

[honest tartan]

keep in mind literal trash got in before (pokemon you wanted) got in

[hushed mantle]

Your trash is other people’s treasure

[silk narwhal]

jokes on you, necrozma is basically confirmed

[clever atlas]

Im legally a racoon
Im okay with trash

[white meadow]

Vote pelliper fr

[crude garden]

People worked too hard to just stop posting it, propaganda will continue until Goomy is in.

[clever atlas]

Not gonna
I can't

[violet pawn]

shhh

[clever atlas]

No, YOU shhhhh

[honest tartan]

goomy is so good when i throw it against the wall and it goes "splat"

[crude garden]

He is a resilient little goober

[honest tartan]

Goomy vs Industrial Shredder who wins???

[violet pawn]

goomy

[crude garden]

Indeed, it's goomy

[vestal wharf]

Why does goomy look like a melted pokeball

[vestal wharf]

No one wants accelgor because of ninjask

[crude garden]

You also pretty much need escavalier

[rough hound]

Ill admit, i was lacking in the propoganda. The sprites were where my alliance really shined

[vestal wharf]

U dont

[winged garnet]

Come on goobers

(Made by EwokPenguin)

[tranquil dust]

did it

[winged garnet]

Imma fill that out rq.

[prisma urchin]

I did it, some of my choice might not make much sense, especially towards the end

[tranquil dust]

Gen 4 supremacy lol

[prisma urchin]

Gen 4 supremacy indead lmao

Was my first gen so naturally where I get a lot of my faves from, was so dissapointed with the remakes

[tranquil dust]

the remakes were actually demakes

[rough hound]

Heres most of em, it was a lot of fun learning to sprite. I just hope these designs dont go to waste

[tame flax]

All I needed to do was say slurpuff

No need to fill the screen

[tranquil dust]

Slurpuff hasn't been announced yet (and probably won't) so there was a lot more you had to do

[tame flax]

We shall see, there's still a lot of slots to go

[tranquil dust]

I mean I like Slurpuff, but it's not that popular

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[tranquil dust]

Slur?

racial Slur?puff

[prisma urchin]

If one of the ones I am hopeful for gets in Ill be happy

[tranquil dust]

who are you hoping for

[crude garden]

All I need is the goom

[prisma urchin]

Any more fossils (I like prehistoric animals), Goomy Line, Pallosand Line, Toxicroak Line, Gastrodon Line, Golisopod Line

Probably a few others, i can't remember of the top of my head, but those are my main faves

[tranquil dust]

I voted 3 on Aurorus, Goomy line, Gastrodon line and golisopod line 👍

[prisma urchin]

Plus anything Gen 4 tbh

Kinda want Kricketot line for the Moustaches and no other reason lmao

[pallid phoenix]

would

[prisma urchin]

Oh yeah I want Spheal line too, forgot about them

[winged garnet]

Am I based?

[sturdy breach]

no 🙂

[sharp sphinx]

a chart of everything throguh gen 9 aint really relevant here

[tranquil dust]

no, because you like Toxapex

jk

[winged garnet]

Suck a cracker, I wasn't the first one doing it

[sharp sphinx]

well hadn't seen rest, and applies to em too tbh

[tranquil dust]

you like Zeraora, what a shame

[cinder oasis]

Only mythical I’ve ever actually used and I like it’s design

[tranquil dust]

🤢

[cinder oasis]

There’s much worse

[tranquil dust]

not really

[cinder oasis]

Why do you hate it?

[tranquil dust]

furry + ugly colors + bad design + boring gameplay

[lethal roost]

oh are we posting Favorite Mon Template again

[winged garnet]

Projecting

[tranquil dust]

wot

[lethal roost]

back at it again with my garbage opinions (those slots are empty on purpose i don't settle for trash)

[cinder oasis]

Fearow and pyroar is crazy

[lethal roost]

i find it immensely funny that of gen 8 only 3 are of mons that were 100% in SwSh nd unrelated to anything else

[lethal roost]

fearow is an absolute banger and I will stand by this forever

[cinder oasis]

Wdym

[lethal roost]

i just really disliked the gen 8 dex lmao

[tranquil dust]

correct opinions only btw

[lethal roost]

DRAGALGE ‼️

also yes my favorite pseudo is kommo-o, people like me exist unfortunately

oh you (cloud) also have kommo-o as your favorite pseudo, based

[cinder oasis]

Frosmoth is crazy

[lethal roost]

Frosmoth is pretty okay yeah

[sturdy breach]

Frosmoth is based, the lack of Goodra is not

[cinder oasis]

It’s based but it’s horrendous

[lethal roost]

Tandemaus is crazy though

[prisma urchin]

Kommo-o gives me monster hunter vibes so I quite like it

[lethal roost]

Xatu is unfathomably based as well tbh

[sturdy breach]

Favourite regional being Muk is also wild

[tranquil dust]

Maushold, not tandemaus smh...

[lethal roost]

oh yeah i forgot thats not the evo

definitely an XY mon enjoyer though 👍

[tranquil dust]

not a fan of most regional forms to be honest

[cinder oasis]

The hisui forms are goated

[tranquil dust]

yessir, Pokemon X wasn't my first pokemon game, but the first one I played an unhealthy amount

[lethal roost]

yeah the Hisuian Forms just carry gen 8 for me

[tranquil dust]

I think some regionals are pretty cool like A-Muk, A-Ninetales, Galarian kanto birds, H-Zoroark

[lethal roost]

however I will also make the case for G-Zigzagoon he's adorable and I already loved Zigzagoon 🥰

[cinder oasis]

Legends arceus is honestly a really fun game, I’ve also done quite a lot of shiny hunting

[tranquil dust]

yeah I just wish it wasn't so ugly

[lethal roost]

ehhh yeah the graphics are a little some of the time

[cinder oasis]

Looks better than sw and shield

[lethal roost]

true, SwSh just has super inconsistent graphics that clash with itself all the time

[cinder oasis]

Swsh is just awful, everything about it is terrible

[winged garnet]

At least SwSh had better Pokemon then SV

[lethal roost]

ehhhh i liked some of the mons. it's just that most of those mons were remixes of previous mons

[white meadow]

it's so sad that let's go legit has better graphics most of the other switch pokemon games

[cinder oasis]

SV is a way better game but I agree, SV only has some good Pokémon

[lethal roost]

true, scrolling through the SwSh dex didn't make me want to cry but holy FUCK SV's definitely did

until I saw the Treasures of Ruin and all was forgiven 🥰

[white meadow]

and it even has the best follow/ride pokemon mechanic yet

[winged garnet]

Pokemon Go is the peak of 3D Pokemon

At least model wise

[prisma urchin]

3d pokemon was never the one for me, felt like it lost a lot of design interest when they moved away from pixel art

[lethal roost]

this fuckin screenshot man (credit to lewtwo)
forget about the prerelease tree this is just

[outer matrix]

(Even though most of the 3D games reuse the same models, then in Legends & SV they had updated them)

[lethal roost]

mmmyes i love the artstyle changing whenever my eyes move

[winged garnet]

Pixel art is superior, 100%

[white meadow]

casual plastic bright tree

[lethal roost]

at least L:A and SV are consistently hideous
(the graphics are... usually fine in those games, joke aside)

[winged garnet]

It's one of the appeals of Pokemon for me

[outer matrix]

Agree with that since they show lots of creativity that the artists had made representing the Pokémon

[lethal roost]

i am excited for the BDSP mod that just imports all the Stadium animations into that game

[cinder oasis]

Annihilape, Ceruledge and Armarouge, the treasures of ruin, the starters are ok ig.

[winged garnet]

Gen 7 is the best 3D game

[lethal roost]

i liked the pastry dog too

[cinder oasis]

SV has awesome graphics but is super buggy

[white meadow]

announcement jumpscare

[lethal roost]

oh yeah i've seen some interesting speedrun tactics from SV

lemme go find the funny video

[tame flax]

Heresy

[lethal roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043725279660621854/1147159038119919696/2021022508274600_s.mp4

[cinder oasis]

I think L:A is better Ngl

[tame flax]

It's pretty solid

[cinder oasis]

Bruh how does that even happen lol

[winged garnet]

Toxtricity
Orbeetle
Rillaboom
Falinks
Corviknight
The GMaxs
Obstagoon
Dragapult
Appleton
Sirsketch'd

[lethal roost]

my other thing with SV is that even the mons revealed from the DLC are kinda
(except ||iron crown|| i'd kill for a shiny ||iron crown||)

[tame flax]

This man says swsh is better and he can't bring himself to name more than 1 of the starters

[cinder oasis]

Poltchageist is worse than polteageist, but is still ok

[lethal roost]

i mean the starters in gen 8 kinda sucked way more than 9's for sure

like it's not a contest, gen 8 probably just has the worst starter set, at least for me

[winged garnet]

Never said it was a better game. Better mons though. And starters aren't everything

[marsh lily]

Which game is this?

[lethal roost]

sword and shield.

[tame flax]

Well then how about I go through some names

[winged garnet]

Sure Gen 9 has good starters, Annihilape, and the Charcadet line, but what else?

[lethal roost]

treasures of ruin and pastry dog

[rain gust]

That's not minisota?

[winged garnet]

Yeah that's the point

[lethal roost]

i fucking love pastry dog!!!!!!!!!

[rain gust]

?💀

[outer matrix]

Ogerpon, Dipplin, and || Blood Moon Ursaluna || are my favorites in the dlc

[winged garnet]

The excuse me?

[lethal roost]

the only other mon that really stands out to me, scrolling through that dex again, is tinkaton

[winged garnet]

Tinkaton... I do like

[outer matrix]

That's why I spoiler tagged it

[cinder oasis]

I prefer regular ||Ursaluna over the other form|| imo

[gentle ferry]

Aight I did the thing. Did generally try to always include more pokemon instead of duplicating them. (Ex. Tinkaton is my Fav gen 9 fairy too, but it's in steel already so I put in Dachsbun)

As you can prolly tell I think some of the weird forms like UBs are super cool and think Gen 9 had some peak designs.

[winged garnet]

Looked it up and HOLY SHIT THATS COOL

FEBBY FABEAR

[outer matrix]

But... || withered ursaluna = withered freddy ||

[white meadow]

good starters?

[lethal roost]

i'm not giving game freak too much credit for "old mon but weird" and "old mon but robot" but Walking Wake, Flutter Mane, Slither Wing, Great Tusk, and Iron Thorns (and ||Crown||) are kinda bangers

[winged garnet]

Yeah? Gen 9 has some good starters

[dark prism]

oh wait gotta save it again

[winged garnet]

I don't think the too many slots argument holds when you have lines of 3 in other spots

[white meadow]

if you mean first stage maybe

[lethal roost]

ok i actually am curious what is it about baxcalibur that you enjoy? no judgement here promise

[winged garnet]

And third stages. The middles are always just kinda stinkers

[lethal roost]

also based growlithe enjoyer

[outer matrix]

But at the very least if sewaddle doesn't make it into IF, || then it will still appear in SV dlc ||

[gentle ferry]

I think gen 9 had a lotta good mons, like Tinkaton, Garganacl, the charcadet line, Cetitan, generally great starters, legendaries you actually connect to, the wonderfully weird paradoxes, some good doggos, and awesome groups like the treasures of ruin.

[lethal roost]

I can see why people would like Garganacl and Cetitan they're just not for me i think

[gentle ferry]

tbh it was mostly what was left for that slot. I did use it but it's mostly a "eh it's fine not bad" for me

[lethal roost]

like I'm not actively sobbing looking at them

[lethal roost]

ah that'll do it

[outer matrix]

Garganacl reminds me of an iron golem and cetitan is a large good boi whale (although there is only one ice stone in the game unless an auction has one)

[tame flax]

Meowscarada
Skeledirge
Quaquaval
The past paradox pokemon
Iron valiant
Miraidon
Koraidon
Dauchsbun
Mabosstiff
Greavard
The dozo
Garganacl
Lokix
Orthworm
Tinkaton
Glimmora

[gentle ferry]

Tatsu was close tbh may even deserve the slot, it's funny

[tame flax]

Just to name a few

[lethal roost]

weirdly enough I think Brambleghast would be a banger if it were just a single-stage because theres like no difference between it and its prevo

[lethal roost]

i see you have a similar opinion on the future paradoxes lmao

[cinder oasis]

I think I didn’t see it in the list, so unfortunately no

[lethal roost]

no ||the entire dex leaked|| it's back

[lethal roost]

thing here is
-not a huge fan of the other dogs that aren't pastry dog
-not a huge fan of lokix
-orthworm and glimmora are funny so i'll take them
-...the door?

[outer matrix]

But...

[lethal roost]

yeah that

||TREVENANT|| SWEEP BTW 🥳 🥳 🥳

[paper pasture]

Glimmora is so slay

If only the champion knew how to use it

[gentle ferry]

Tinkaton is probably some of the closest Gamefreak has come to displacing Growlithe as my favorite, has a lot of character. A lot of other mons that gen were great too, I was close to trying Armarouge over using Arcanine when playing but didn't quite do so, though I did use one competitively with Arcanine for a bit.

[lethal roost]

yeah not a favorite but he's very silly so i'll acknowledge it

[winged garnet]

Idk who The door is and personally not a fan of the dog mons or glimmora. Or orthworm

[lethal roost]

orthworm is silly enough to be good in my book but a lot of people aren't looking for silly and i also happen to extremely dislike dudunsparce which has the same vibe

[outer matrix]

Also, || Boi is no longer extinct! ||

[paper pasture]

Dunsparce Evo coulda been so bad ass

[lethal roost]

FINALLY, ||LAST RESPECTS|| FOR EVERYONE

[white meadow]

"let's put the hazard setter in the last place, that's such a good idea!"

[paper pasture]

But wueva eviolite dun is fun

[lethal roost]

this is a mistake btw (related to above spoiler)

[tame flax]

Sounds like a skill issue

[lethal roost]

who are they giving ||last respects|| to next??? dragapult???

[outer matrix]

|| Basculeagon || is already transferable in the base game

[white meadow]

finally, viable physical dragapult

[lethal roost]

i know it's just significantly funnier that you can get it without ||L:A|| and have ||Last Respects|| just whenever

[tame flax]

I'm looking forward to the big boi

[lethal roost]

of all the mons that aren't transfer-only too. because there's no reason Stantler shouldn't evolve into Wyrdeer or Scyther into Kleavor but this being the exception? hilarious

[outer matrix]

|| Probably due to it appearing in the dlc's dex ||

[tame flax]

Imagine if other pla mons appear in the other dlc

[outer matrix]

|| ursaluna does ||

[lethal roost]

||well yeah but it's weird that scyther and stantler are in basegame but don't evolve because...???||

[tame flax]

Like we getting sneasler, kleavor, and wyrdeer in the indigo disc

[lethal roost]

same with ||Ursaluna|| but at least that's solved(?)

[lethal roost]

sneasler requires the Hisuian prevo but we live in hope

[outer matrix]

|| pysheild bash is an egg move for stantler, but it can't evolve and the Black Augrite item is not coded in ||

[tame flax]

White stripe was hisuian

[lethal roost]

Black Augurite is in, same with Peat Block, it's just that neither works because why would you be able to get things that you could have before? silly billy

this is also how I feel about Cursola and Sirfetch'd in particular btw

"aw man we gave this bad pokemon a good evolution. time to never put it in another game again"

johtonian cursola and kantonian sirfetch'd when

[tame flax]

Don't forget "let's make this haunted rock object ghost ground

[lethal roost]

Overqwil has this too I think

[lethal roost]

runerigus is only slightly less of a loss because at least cofagrigus is good regardless of whether or not runerigus is obtainable

corsola and farfetch'd and qwilfish get screwed over

Linoone too to an extent

[royal nova]

Every single Gen 9 grass type is a hard miss and I cannot for the life of me choose a favorite

[tame flax]

How dare

[royal nova]

They are all so bad and the only actually decent one is the old slug thing but I don’t even like that one

[lethal roost]

yeah if someone doesn't like Meowscarada or Wo-Chien there's like no grass options in SV lmfao

Scovillain feels like a mid evo trapped in a final evo's body

[cinder oasis]

Oh yeah, you can’t get runerigus, sirfetchd and Cursola anymore right? What about the alolan variants

[tame flax]

Scovillain is straight heat in sunlight

[gentle ferry]

I really like Meowscarada, but since I had used it I just went Wo-Chein tbh

[royal nova]

Nah that thing is ugly and missed potential I am not using that thing and definitely not touching its pre-evo

[lethal roost]

alolan variants matter a lot less because none of them were straight upgrades to the mons they replaced
galar variants have a significantly greater problem here because some new evos to old mons are locked behind it

[cinder oasis]

Scovillain is the biggest disappointment, I hate it so much

[lethal roost]

though on the Alolan subject I am sad that Fur Coat Persian gone

[tame flax]

He's just a goofy guy with some cracked potential

[cinder oasis]

Can you get the alolan Pokémon still or are they stuck in alola only being able to be transferred

[royal nova]

They could’ve done so much more with a dragon pepper

[lethal roost]

uhhhh in L:A you could get A-Vulpix only. in SV you're given a Galar Meowth but not an Alolan one as far as I know

[white meadow]

not sad about that goofy ass face tho

[tame flax]

With its stats it could get an evo down the line, but even without its a solid mon

[cinder oasis]

Actually I’m pretty sure you can breed the alolan forms so it doesn’t matter

[white meadow]

like meowth is like so elegant and then you get the evo

[outer matrix]

Alolan sandslash and exeggutor were shown in the SV dlc trailer, so

[tame flax]

I know the alolan mons will be in indigo disc

Might even be galar mons

[cinder oasis]

I don’t know about the Galarian and hisuian since they evolve in much weirder ways. The alolan pokemon are fine since you can breed them and just evolve them normally

[tame flax]

I could see g darm in the icy area

[lethal roost]

they're still all HOME exclusive though, for now

[paper pasture]

Oh God not gdarm

[outer matrix]

Gen 8 IoA dlc has the one alolan diglett guy that gives you other regional forms

[tame flax]

G darm is great

[cinder oasis]

G darm is awesome

[paper pasture]

I love him design wise but meta wise he's a bully

[tame flax]

Melting fiery snowman zenmode is the best thing ever

[paper pasture]

True

[white meadow]

he is what ice types should mostly be

[tame flax]

The meta can go eat my ass for banning the whole mon instead of just gorilla tactics

[cinder oasis]

He was in Ubers which is crazy

[paper pasture]

That's true, ice types have been push overs for too long

[outer matrix]

Except hisuian avalugg

[white meadow]

ice calyrex should have been the fast one

[paper pasture]

Hisui avalugg has abominable typing

[cinder oasis]

Every Hisuian form is an upgrade of the original version except avalugg

[tame flax]

Ice types are a paradox, the slower they are the more useless they are, the faster they are, the more likely they are to get banned

[outer matrix]

4x weakeness to steel and fighting? Naw dog

[lethal roost]

Cool Venomoth Fact: Venomoth was originally added in Red and Green, in 1996. Venomoth got carried into subsequent Kanto and Johto releases because it was in those regions in the first place. However, it wasn't added to a new Regional Dex until Scarlet and Violet

in other words, no dev consciously thought "oh yeah let's add Venomoth to our regional dex" for 22 years (25 if you consider the Johto dex to just be the Kanto dex)

[kindred knot]

The weavile theory

[tame flax]

Look at gen 9

[white meadow]

they should make a move that guarantees freezing because funny

[tame flax]

2 of the first mons banned were extremely fast ice types

[paper pasture]

Venomoth is adorable but yeah I forget it's existence in the daily

Dustox better

[lethal roost]

harsh, but true

i just happen to be a venomoth enjoyer

[cinder oasis]

Well no one cares about it Ngl, but it’s crazy that the last dex it was in before Let’s go is the gen 2 remakes

[white meadow]

as poison bugs scolypede and beedrill better

the mega at least

[lethal roost]

and those are just remakes, too. technically the last non-remake dex it was in was Crystal

[cinder oasis]

Weavile got smited this gen

[tame flax]

Faster ice types

One of which is just better weavile

[paper pasture]

They should let us have snow veil

[lethal roost]

and you can extrapolate "well technically crystal's dex is just kanto's and johto's so there was no conscious thought in venomoth being in"

in which case the last time Venomoth was seriously considered was... RG?

[cinder oasis]

Partly, but also because they removed triple axel and knock off from it

[paper pasture]

Evasive frosslass 😍

Give it a bright powder and sub, baefy

[lethal roost]

poor venomoth man he's goofy i like him

[lethal roost]

i will strangle all BrightPowder users (i used to play Stadium 2)

[cinder oasis]

I like beedrill more but honestly he really isn’t that bad

[lethal roost]

yeah unlike venomoth beedrill actually gets to be in games

[outer matrix]

Considering how trubbish was leaked to be in IF, do you guys think that the next revealed Pokémon will be something else?

[cinder oasis]

Even got a mega

[lethal roost]

||...there was another leak in those files||

[paper pasture]

Iirc they also put random bright powders in the battle tower in bdsp it was a nightmare

[outer matrix]

|| if it was Necrozma, then I know already ||

[cinder oasis]

What was the other one again I forgor

[lethal roost]

||necrozma||

[cinder oasis]

Oh yeah

[lethal roost]

thats even worse than S2 if it's because of Items Clause (each item has to be unique)
unlike S2, BDSP actually has items

[outer matrix]

I want to see meloetta get in due to that || Necrozma ||/meloetta fusion

[lethal roost]

brightpowder's only on literally everything in S2 because there were no better items

[buoyant sluice]

[paper pasture]

Lmfaooo, everything I hear about s2 makes it sound like the best worst pokemon game

[lethal roost]

GOLURK ‼️

[paper pasture]

Frillish

[lethal roost]

Hoopa is an interesting pick for favorite mythical, but not a bad one tbh. just rarely see it there

also XURKITREE ‼️ i missed it the first time

[outer matrix]

Lurantis as the favorite grass type?

[buoyant sluice]

[paper pasture]

Omg musharna and xatu enjoyer

Idk all the gen 5 psychics are good tho

[lethal roost]

the only pick for favorite mythical I will judge is Zarude. 5 page essay on why it's better than literally any other mythical

[cinder oasis]

Hoopa is a baller

Best mythical imo

[outer matrix]

Because it's a monkey with a move similar to recover?

[lethal roost]

maybe im underestimating hoopa's presence

[cinder oasis]

It’s lame

[paper pasture]

Zarude sandstorm

[lethal roost]

i mean "celebi is an onion that was a staple in competitive for a long time" and "jirachi is a genie that's stll a staple in competitive" and even "genesect is a bug that was a staple in competitive" are all pretty equally valid to this

[outer matrix]

Zarude's running animation though

[lethal roost]

also keldeo and arceus stuck around for a long while

[paper pasture]

Mew best sorry not sorry

[cinder oasis]

Volcanion stinks

[paper pasture]

Happy meal toy material

[lethal roost]

yeah volcanion is also one I would never expect to see there

[outer matrix]

Who knows, || Gen 9 has a new mythical in part 2, so who knows if it will even stand among the rest ||

[lethal roost]

||oh good it better not be trash||

[tame flax]

2 new mythicals

I'd say ogerpon is cute enough to be a mythical like mew

[white meadow]

I want a event in PIF were you find Chatot and Seismitoad next to each other

[outer matrix]

Ogerpon is cute || because of no mask form ||

[cinder oasis]

Mew is Mid!

[outer matrix]

Mew knows any TM move in the game, how is that not useful?

[tame flax]

Actually, it doesn't have that, it has ||4 mask forms||

[paper pasture]

Omg yeah I saw that

[cinder oasis]

I really hope it isn’t the mythical

[paper pasture]

||peach boy||

[cinder oasis]

It’s a good Pokémon not the best

[tame flax]

There can be multiple mythicals

[lethal roost]

Mew doesn't really have the statline to be anything too great that isn't outclassed by other things. basically it's worse Arceus from a comp standpoint

however it's stinkin cute so i dont care

[paper pasture]

Willowisp foul play mew cuz I hate physical attackers

[outer matrix]

Ogerpon is not the mythical since it's stated to be a legendary (even though it may not feel like one)

[tame flax]

Idc

[paper pasture]

Yeah it's not from an event so it can't be mythic right?

[tame flax]

He's cute he gets in

[paper pasture]

I forgot the exact distinction

[tame flax]

Did arceus stop being a mythical because you can catch it without one now?

[outer matrix]

No (although you can get 2 via BDSP and Arceus)

[paper pasture]

No but original distribution

[tame flax]

That was years ago in a bad gen

[paper pasture]

Take it up with the pokemon taxonomists lol

[cinder oasis]

Gen 5 is bad?

[lethal roost]

i had this argument a few days ago over Deoxys because some sources did start calling it Legendary after ORAS but most didn't

the video they're talking about is the 1008 video

[royal drum]

I do hope we get the xerneas and yveltal.

[outer matrix]

Bacon and elk

[frank oxide]

tbh its kinda seless to do propaganda now that vots are closedu

[crude garden]

Did somebody say propaganda?

[frank oxide]

votes are closed

[white meadow]

always has been

[frank oxide]

true,kinda

[crude garden]

So?

[cinder oasis]

That sentence is impeccable

[frank oxide]

so propaganda is useless

[frank oxide]

major spelling mistakes i made

[last pecan]

but its fun

[maiden salmon]

someone with the same pfp

[crude garden]

It still looks nice and represents a bunch of hard work

[frank oxide]

not exactly

[maiden salmon]

similar

[frank oxide]

still useless tho

hard work for nuthing 💀

[crude garden]

Bringing enjoyment sounds pretty useful to me

[last pecan]

enjoyment is use

[cinder oasis]

It’s the exact same

[frank oxide]

check again

[cinder oasis]

The hair

[frank oxide]

nd the eyes

[cinder oasis]

It’s nearly identical

[frank oxide]

so no,its not the exact same

[crude garden]

Besides you still have propaganda in your name, so it's a little hypocritical lol.

[frank oxide]

i forgor to change it 💀

[crude garden]

He forgor!!

[frank oxide]

better now

[crude garden]

Lol

[sour stream]

I feel that, to me it look like the original concept as a centaur and them some suit and tie above said NO! and the artist just removed the arms out of spite

[frank oxide]

gosh why dont mods just add bruxish asextra at this point

[cinder oasis]

Origin Palkia looks okay, but it should’ve had arms and Origin dialga is just hideous

[frank oxide]

they all want it

[kindred knot]

[frank oxide]

why y'all talking about origins

[sour stream]

what i said is why I think it doesn't have arms WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE. at least, my opinion

[white meadow]

why not

[frank oxide]

i think general exists for this debate

i want to talk aout votes not centaurs

[sturdy breach]

Origin forms seem like they would restrict their signature moves. Dialga got something stuck in it's throat so it can't Roar, Palkia lost it's claws to rend with 🙂

[lethal roost]

what if i bribed you with these custom shinies

[frank oxide]

no

dead chat

[lone dome]

Nighttime shinies

[tame flax]

arceus is gen 4

[kindred knot]

gen4 was amazing

[tame flax]

it was cringe af

[kindred knot]

L take

[earnest mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/shakey-shake-goodra-wooo-gif-20060162

[crude garden]

woop woop

[white meadow]

I'm honestly surprised that they decided to have at least 12 Sprite Managers, and at least 5 of them are NEW

[lethal roost]

plat and HGSS were fine but DP was full of some of the most dumbass decisions I've witnessed in a pokemon game

im forever grateful to platinum for being the most needed game in the series by far

[silent acorn]

Love platinum glad I got that over Diamond and Pearl, also has the Best legendary intro of the series

[frank oxide]

love how general exists

i want to spek about votes,not plat and DP

[lethal roost]

what's there to say?

[silent acorn]

Yeah Cool, thank god I questioned dhelmise so much

The voting is over

[frank oxide]

tbh idk why this is still up,votes are closed,we just have to wait

[lethal roost]

to speculate new reveals ig

[frank oxide]

its prob just everything next reveal

[white meadow]

i am going to be the next reveal

[silent acorn]

Dont know why talking here is a problem, we still talk about the voting options

[frank oxide]

the legendarys of gen 4 are already in-game tho

[lethal roost]

if going mildly off topic in a chat that's going to disappear anyway is a crime then may God smite me where I stand

[frank oxide]

anyways this channel kinda useless

[silent acorn]

Thank you thought Police, I am Just commenting what others are talking about

[lethal roost]

anyway gogoat should get in i would be sad if it didnt

[frank oxide]

same with dhelmise

[silent acorn]

Geez this guy is closest to Adachi I seen

[lethal roost]

no lol?

[frank oxide]

who's adachi

[silent acorn]

Adachi is literally a thought Policeman

[lethal roost]

the guy thats edited onto that dog

[frank oxide]

whats an adachi

[silent acorn]

You dont know persona cool

[lethal roost]

did... you play persona 4? thats absolutely not what happened

[frank oxide]

what

[silent acorn]

I did play it, Adachi was a wacko

[lethal roost]

nerd shit

[frank oxide]

i know like 2 characters 💀

[silent acorn]

Cool. It has 100

[lethal roost]

i dont see how someone complaining about being mildly offtopic is comparable to what adachi did 💀

[frank oxide]

didnt ask 💀

[silent acorn]

Whatever

[frank oxide]

anyways i dont wanna argue,dhelmise is cool

[silent acorn]

Out of the voting options I Wonder what were the least considered ones

[frank oxide]

i doubt yveltal will get in, but i want too

[lethal roost]

lake spirits.

[frank oxide]

prob stuff likethe monkeys and spinda

[lethal roost]

no there were people who wanted those

[silent acorn]

Thats a really bad one yeah

[frank oxide]

never saw anyone want the elemental monkeys

[lethal roost]

i've never seen a single person say "oh yeah i really want uxie!!!!!!!"

[last pecan]

hello

[silent acorn]

Spinda has more chance to get in than dhelmise

[last pecan]

i heard someone call me

[silent acorn]

Hello Catton Ramsey

[frank oxide]

nah,the number of dhelmise i saw on people top 20 is > than the spindas

[raw bison]

the lake trio, manaphy/phione had very little support verbally and I don't think they'd have enough fans to pull them up higher despite being mythical/legendaries

[silent acorn]

People literally could not come with an argument for that one, we literally ignore the whole time

[frank oxide]

wich one,dhelmise or spinda

[silent acorn]

Dhelmise

[frank oxide]

imean dhelmise has great underwater,prate and rust fusion material

[white meadow]

i saw like 3 people here that wanted manaphy and it's copy

[frank oxide]

a bunch of peple supported dhelmise,like 2 people supported spinda

[silent acorn]

Lake trio, landorus gang and sword had little support yeah

[outer matrix]

I think that spinda won't work well in IF due to the random spot thing not translating well into the game

[frank oxide]

ye

[lethal roost]

why would it need to? for fusions you could just put the spots wherever anyway

[silent acorn]

Yeah thats effectively true

[lethal roost]

my issue with spinda is that it sucks and minior does this better

[outer matrix]

Yeah true

[frank oxide]

yeah true

[silent acorn]

It does that better but stats forms remember?

[lone dome]

Just have the spots be in a fixed location on the sprite

[frank oxide]

i think minior wouldkinda be pain to sprite ngl

[raw bison]

I'm one of the few who supported the genies because therian formes are sick af but I had no delusions that other people were gonna go for them when their default forms were all that was shown on the poll

[lethal roost]

we can have forms. Stance Change works, so I don't see how Shields Down wouldn't

[frank oxide]

oricorio is the perfect example

[silent acorn]

Honestly I could consider therian, and then I was like. Yeah but what makes these guys special?

[white meadow]

don't really think it would have changed something even if the t forms were shown

[lethal roost]

yeah i thought therian forms would be interesting as fusion concepts but nOoOOoo
(also because therian forms would actually be in the game)

[outer matrix]

I mean spriters can use the different minior color forms to represent the fused typing; like having a green one be used for a grass type fusion of it

[white meadow]

also people just dislike the lakitus in general

[lethal roost]

oricorio is an out-of-battle transformation though. minior's always Shell out of battle

[silent acorn]

We were told ori takes 4 different dex number for changing forms effectively affirming that different forms could take more slots at the Last second

[frank oxide]

that would still be pain

[lethal roost]

see: here

[raw bison]

yeah lol they're very much a "well I like them" pick which was 99% because Therian Thundurus is my Aesthetic

[silent acorn]

Ok weezing is freaking sick need more like that

[lethal roost]

no, they're still counted as one slot, frogman said something in here to that effect

[silent acorn]

Ah really? Oh well

[frank oxide]

didnt frogman chose oricorio to get in,or was it trubbish

[outer matrix]

Also isn't that chatot one using the shiny minior colors?

[lethal roost]

yes 👍

[lethal roost]

that was Kiwi, Frogman chose Trubbish

[silent acorn]

Kinda late IMO

[lethal roost]

by the time oricorio was announced the polls closed anyway

[marsh folio]

Minior and Necrozma one slot sweep

[frank oxide]

right

[lone dome]

Minior being able to have multiple alternate color palette options is really cool for fusions.

[lethal roost]

so basically what frogman is affirming is that "no, it is still one slot, even if the mon has more forms"

[silent acorn]

Actually it happened a bunch of hours later

[frank oxide]

tbh i kinda thought kiwi would choose bruxish,but he apparently chose oricorio for forms

[lethal roost]

like Lycanroc is 3 for the price of 1

[raw bison]

especially being a rock-type head since most rock types are very muted pallettes

[marsh folio]

thank god

[frank oxide]

not sure

[lethal roost]

really? I remember the polls closing the moment the reveal itself happened

[frank oxide]

ye

[lethal roost]

there's also the bonus off-shinies HOME had for darker color options but I'm not sure if they'd get alted

[white meadow]

kinda sad because some mons just aren't that good in their base form

[silent acorn]

No... It happened later, we had chaos ensue for a bit after

[lone dome]

Just remembered to go update my tier list

[silent acorn]

Like when ori was announced I could still go into mine for example

[marsh folio]

Nah we are still getting forms they are just one slot

[frank oxide]

lmg,i dont really know what mon you were/is for

[white meadow]

?

[silent acorn]

By the way does that one slot multiple form still apply to Lycanrock?

[raw bison]

presumably if a mon has multiple forms that have mechanical differences and persist out of battle, they count as one slot for voting purposes, but will require multiple dex entries

[frank oxide]

like we practically all have a mon to support,wich one is yours

[lethal roost]

i think it would but we won't have confirmation until its inevitable reveal

[silent acorn]

I mean... I dont care about the effort the voting options is given as is you know?

[frank oxide]

it prob wont get in

[lethal roost]

the thing was after forms were announced to be "multiple dex numbers" I got fear because a lot of my picks up here are based on them having multiple forms

[white meadow]

good question

[silent acorn]

Like the slots were treasures

[frank oxide]

znyways gn chat

[lethal roost]

ehhhhhhhhhh lycanroc is a popular mon

[silent acorn]

Perfectly understandable

[lethal roost]

i mean no one's insane enough to make Furfrou 10 slots right

[white meadow]

furfrou 👎

[silent acorn]

Lycanrock is nothing short of popular I change my vote for it too. Everyone could change minds before the poll closed

[outer matrix]

• buzzer sound *

[lethal roost]

hey i want funny hairstyles on things

[white meadow]

gts made me the biggest furfrou hater

[silent acorn]

Seasons on things is better yes

[lethal roost]

oh yeah that'll do it lol

[silent acorn]

Gotcha

[lethal roost]

Sawsbuck is also in an "I want this" tier too it's just in the one below that

[silent acorn]

Fair nuff

[lethal roost]

it is above a solid portion of other grasses though

[frank oxide]

if that is popular,then dhelmise def is

[lone dome]

Ok here's my updated vote list:

[lethal roost]

no, dhelmise isn't popular among the wider pokemon community like lycanroc is

[white meadow]

I've never seen such a based opinion

[lethal roost]

not everyone who voted read this chat and said "oh yeah dhelmise is really cool!!!!!" they probably voted dhelmise lowly or not at all because they didnt see fusions of it

[white meadow]

Chatot should be higher tho

[silent acorn]

No

[frank oxide]

nah bro i dont see a bunch of lycanrock supporter,i see a bunch of dhelmsies tho

[lethal roost]

so "the vocal minority of people who read and post in this chat" then

[silent acorn]

The delusion on dhelmise is really strong honestly

[raw bison]

lycanroc has a very broad appeal. Rockruff is cute puppy. Midday is Cool Wolf Companion. Midnight is Hyena/Werewolf/Gnoll representation, and Dusk has that Special Boy (tm) energy

[silent acorn]

Almost as strong as the delusion on pachirisu

[outer matrix]

I hope that a hoopa/jirachi goes for a "3 wishes" genie thing

[frank oxide]

i managed to make people change heir mind,and i didnt know dhemise existance before the poll and yet was like "dangthats a cool mon,time to support it along with yveltal" (i dont watch the anime)

[silent acorn]

I got dogs thats enough for me to vote lycanrock

[lethal roost]

he's in "eeehhhhh" and not in "no thanks" for a reason, he has a thing but it's not a thing I want

[frank oxide]

if hoopa gets in

[lone dome]

Some of the ones on my list were actually influenced by the propaganda

[silent acorn]

Its thing sucks a lot honestly

[frank oxide]

dont really like him

[lethal roost]

yeah because you read the chat and thought "huh dhelmise" but not everyone is going to do that

[frank oxide]

did dhelmise influence you

[frank oxide]

no i saw the poll before the chat

[white meadow]

this is the most factual™️ list ever

[lethal roost]

man, slurpuff and gogoat at 1
at least its not 0

[silent acorn]

I see more arguments and Sprites for marshadow even though I dont support it

[lone dome]

It guaranteed the 3 tier

[worn coyote]

sandygast and palossand for pretty solid pick, W

[raw bison]

like dhelmise is really cool conceptually but as an abstract/object mon he's probably not got the most fans who instavoted him. Though his ability might have got some of the gameplay enthusiasts to go "oh hey ironworker would be neat"

[outer matrix]

Chatot due to Gen 4 being able to record a cry to it

[frank oxide]

it is true

[lethal roost]

yeah marshadow is... at least better than lake spirits

[frank oxide]

ye,but really i want to try and make a piratefusion with sableye

[lone dome]

Gogoat was at 0, but I bumped it up a little

[silent acorn]

... And you can do it that in IF sure. Uh huh

[lethal roost]

based

[lethal roost]

also that's a very very very low bar btw

[frank oxide]

YEEE

[worn coyote]

yeah lake spirits is a low bar

[silent acorn]

It is an ultra low bar to clear

[frank oxide]

yes

[lethal roost]

i want either stakataka or palossand i want big buildings

[frank oxide]

ineed sharpedo for blahaj

[silent acorn]

Palossand has strong support itll make it

[frank oxide]

sylveon/sharpedo = blahaj

[worn coyote]

W, 3 for sandygast and palossand

[silent acorn]

If Palossand makes it thats already a 100% improvement

[white meadow]

Isn't sandygast confirmed already ?

[worn coyote]

buildings

[frank oxide]

would stakataka and sandygast just be an actual castle

[lone dome]

Not yet

[white meadow]

I thought they found it while datamining

[worn coyote]

not yet

[frank oxide]

nope,but trubbish is

[silent acorn]

No kiwi didnt add it neither are contest winners, contest winners are probably gonna pick the monkes

[white meadow]

Like Necrozma

[frank oxide]

NOOOOOOOO

[worn coyote]

NOT THE MONKEYS

[lethal roost]

I will win the contest with my trash spriting and bring 🐐 dw

[silent acorn]

Too bad for you and me they can do whatever the hell they want and we are powerless to help it

[worn coyote]

🐐 pick

[lethal roost]

either 🐐 or minior

[silent acorn]

I approve of it if its contest

[worn coyote]

⏳ sand next

[frank oxide]

what about ⚓

[lethal roost]

Not as cool

[white meadow]

Yup they found a coded sandygast encounter while datamining

[silent acorn]

You really think my friend Who is obsessed with the goat is gonna change his baby for an algea anchor

[worn coyote]

so they just didn't announce that sandygast is getting in?

[frank oxide]

did you see the fusions with it ?

[silent acorn]

Saw 0

[frank oxide]

#1140021053092003991quick example

[silent acorn]

I see more gogoat than the anchor, everyone kept speculating what to do with it

[outer matrix]

jeez tierlist dot com has lots of ads

[white meadow]

where adblock

[lone dome]

Yep

[lethal roost]

Nah I do still want Dhelmise I just want 🐐 and minior first

[silent acorn]

??? Doesnt work

[frank oxide]

just search up dhelmise in spritework

[lone dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1140021053092003991/1140021053347876945/dhelmise.362.png

[silent acorn]

I let team bruxsish take me because I wanted to support one gen 7 one stage mon

[lone dome]

I actually like Bruxish

[white meadow]

i actually voted it a 3 for the lulz

[frank oxide]

dhelmise is the answer instead of that fish

[silent acorn]

Lol that fish is powerful it made me trip

[lethal roost]

Bruxish is okay tbh, I just don't think it's a good body

[white meadow]

meh i just knew that it was never gonna win so it doesn't matter

[silent acorn]

Nah it has a terrible awful body

[outer matrix]

bruxish is kind of okay tbh

[lethal roost]

I voted Bruxish 1 out of begrudging respect for the amount of sprites

[silent acorn]

[lethal roost]

Blacephalon has the same palette but with a better body design and a fireworks theming

[silent acorn]

Kiwi had her pieces on the right order

[lone dome]

I'll be really happy if Lurantis is in

[white meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1141142349641154650/meloxish.png

[silent acorn]

I Just want lilligant or sawsbuck for grass

[frank oxide]

ugly tbh

[silent acorn]

Oh pretty!

[lone dome]

Fabulous

[raw bison]

not gonna lie I personally wouldn't want to use Bruxish for anything but I would relish the agony it would inflict on all it's haters

[worn coyote]

WHAT DA HELL??????

[outer matrix]

no

[frank oxide]

gn chat

[silent acorn]

Bruxsish has psychic fang so.... Thats a good one

[worn coyote]

vote sandygast/palossand for big buildings

[frank oxide]

votes closed

[worn coyote]

oh they have

[tame flax]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[white meadow]

i actually want to make a bruxish fusion for shit and giggles now, damn

[silent acorn]

Wait hang on Bruxsish has dazzling.. Thats nuts

[lone dome]

Yep

[silent acorn]

But like that completely negates priority

[worn coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-guy-gif-26273225

[outer matrix]

dazzling prevents priority moves

[lone dome]

man

[silent acorn]

Huh. That thing is actually pretty solid for gameplay

Lets see dhelmise so I can cry Gento a river

[lethal roost]

tbh a bit of my meloetta hype came from having this thing in GO

[silent acorn]

Dhelmise is the only user of Steel worker thats nonsense!

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/move-pokemon-oshawott-piplup-meloetta-gif-7789218

[lethal roost]

I mean what else would make sense for it? Gurdurr?

[outer matrix]

sandman confirmed?

[worn coyote]

awesome sauce

[worn coyote]

awesome!

[silent acorn]

By the way tell me everyones opinion on the gurdurr line

[worn coyote]

machamp from wish.com

[silent acorn]

Sounds about right yeah

I dont know why anyone wants it in the game

[lone dome]

I like the Timburr line

[outer matrix]

but with a 500ton pillar that can break someone's ankles

[lethal roost]

I could see it being the line but holding different things based on the other mon as a body

[silent acorn]

Thats about the only cool thing of conkeldurr but gurdurr really sucks

[lethal roost]

I don't entirely discount Conkeldurr line I just don't think it's as good as other things I want

[silent acorn]

Me neither I dont particularly love them

[lone dome]

Gurdurr looks like a clown working at a construction site

[outer matrix]

the conkeldurr line reminds me of bert and ernie

[silent acorn]

Well thats one, how about another from gen 5. Like musharna havent Heard much People talk about it

I kinda dig it, its a dream tapir

[outer matrix]

musharana has that dream mist, imagine paring that with dararkai for nightmare mist

[worn coyote]

musharna is W

[lone dome]

I like them

[silent acorn]

Many People imagine that one yeah

Honestly musharna is one I am 100% sure on

One I like but never got was Excavalier, i dig its knight shape

[outer matrix]

that miku collab image that dropped earlier today paired her with meloetta

[lone dome]

It's the perfect mon for her

[white meadow]

She's rocking that trainer outfit too

[glossy osprey]

Lemme dab my guzzle agenda rq

[oak ravine]

The only reason I want Musharna in-game is because it kinda already is, and its frustrating to see an uncatchable mon in game, even though its one I don't care about that much

[outer matrix]

my updated tierlist

[clever vigil]

Good Sharpedo placement

[last pecan]

bad kartana placement

[echo peak]

Hey guys I just got my acc re-enabled how are corphish's odds looking

[muted shoal]

Rotom forms. Rotom forms!!!

[outer matrix]

[short garden]

vote is over

[cinder oasis]

Abomasnow is better than Vanilluxe

[agile sun]

damn i just disagree with tapus cuz i dont like that much and im a necrozma body hater but otherwise i agree with everysingle one

[cinder oasis]

Terrible

[silent acorn]

One of my top ones

[silent acorn]

Very bad lord

[outer matrix]

listen if a beta abomasnow fusion gets made, maybe I'll reconsider

[silent acorn]

Look I love gen 5, maractus may be underrated but that doesnt necessarily make it better cactus than cacturne, although I dont mind if it gets in because its one slot

[clever vigil]

I REALLY hope Sharpedo defies all odds and somehow gets in

I am rooting for them

[hasty heath]

Same with Drapion in my case.

[lethal roost]

if this piques your interest in claydol thats ok if not thats also ok 👍

not as though you can change your vote now i just wanted to point it out

[hasty heath]

It would certainly bring more horrors beyond our comprehension. I believe I voted Claydol

[echo peak]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[sturdy jungle]

VOTE AURORUS MOTHERFUCKERS

[clever vigil]

The vote is closed

[outer matrix]

alright then gonna change my opinions on the tierlist
need some time since it takes a while for the website to generate the picture

?

[lethal roost]

yeah i cant think of anything else to propagandize

oh no wait slurpuff is there too heres some slurpers

[bold lantern]

dont call them slurpers, please

[cinder oasis]

Slurpers

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/wocky-slush-slurpee-7eleven-7eleven-slurpee-spinning-slurpee-gif-23082348

[bold lantern]

yummy ice cream

[outer matrix]

i only tried a slurpie once

[clever vigil]

I really hope we don't get Amoonguss. I can already imagine how many Among Us fusions would result from that

[brisk vessel]

I hope they end up adding melo anyway seeing as Pokemon is having a collab event with Hatsune Miku

[grand hull]

I’m loving the diancie fusions in spritework

[alpine rune]

OH MY GOD ITS REAL

I thought this was a joke by the Melo voters

[brisk vessel]

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1698643635674227122?s=2

Joe Merrick (@JoeMerrick)

It is cool that they posted the character sheets for Psychic-type Miku.

I wonder if they'll continue posting the artwork and the character sheets. There's six different artists for this collab so we'll see :)

https://t.co/VJeRZv5PyM

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[alpine rune]

I know what I'm doing today

[thorny ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1141905998097944707/jarvis.gif

[polar shoal]

floatzel needs more support

[clever vigil]

Sharpedo/Squirtle

[cinder oasis]

Vote ended

[thorny ferry]

YOOOOOO

[clever vigil]

Just Squirtle with sharp teeths

[polar shoal]

wait it has?

[thorny ferry]

Bruxish in tier top 4??!?! Unbelievable

[outer matrix]

any ideas for trubbish/meloetta?

[polar shoal]

what are the results

[thorny ferry]

A meloetta singing poorly written/backwards musical notes

[grand hull]

Not out yet

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/xerneas-pokemon-fairy-aura-diancie-gif-20191607

[grand hull]

DIANCIE

[spiral island]

And Xerneas :3

[grand hull]

But mainly diancie

I never played x and y so I don’t care much about yveltal and xerneus

[outer matrix]

anything else? thinking of making it look depressed, like a failing music star

[spiral island]

I personally prefer Xerneas. But, Diancie cool because Mega Evolution. So, I respect your vote :3

[grand hull]

I did give xerneus a 2 I think

Cause it would be fun cause of all the colors and trees

[spiral island]

And it could make for some sick Fairy/Ghost fusions

[clever vigil]

I am gonna go animate my Sharpedo/Charmander doing the Spooky Dance bc yes

[spiral island]

Like, imagine Xerneas fusing with Giratina

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-month-spooky-halloween-gif-18637322

[clever vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003759365305680004/1123848499600040047/SpookiDance.gif

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-spooky-month-halloween-spooky-gif-18637321

[lethal roost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833207011688579133/994948099963371700/output-1.gif

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-month-lila-lila-spooky-month-spooky-dance-spooky-month-dance-gif-27051235

[lethal roost]

Imagine Dragons

[gilded eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/eevee-dance-gif-26519502

[clever vigil]

I like Imagine Dragons....

[lethal roost]

sorry i just needed a random band

[dusty arrow]

justin beiber/any k-pop singer

[hushed mantle]

Maybe taylor swift?

[gilded eagle]

LInkin Park

[white meadow]

No

[white meadow]

I'll make sure to.

[hushed mantle]

I hope you explode during your sleep

[gilded eagle]

why

[outer matrix]

[dusty arrow]

thank you

[silent acorn]

If Meloetta gets In i hope that by the time I fuse it there is a fusion with aggron so I can hear heavy metal

[silent acorn]

Use it cant say I love it

[gilded eagle]

enter Metallica joke here

[silent acorn]

I Just want to grab meloetta and infernape and get my copy of Through the flames and fire

Dragonforce meloetta is gonna be busted

[outer matrix]

(another) rotom/meloetta idea = fnaf-like animatronic

[silent acorn]

Ew no

[gilded eagle]

argeed

[outer matrix]

k

[spiral island]

Skillet

[gilded eagle]

yes

[spiral island]

Honestly, Rotom and Ursaring would probably be a better choice. Though, I think we already have a FNAF reference fusion with Ursaring

[outer matrix]

whatta about banette/meloetta being a abandoned sing-along toy?

[lethal roost]

Xurkitree/Ursaring

[silent acorn]

London bridge has fallen down fallen down london bridge has fallen down fallen down my fair lady

[sturdy jungle]

I’m pretty sure the fusion you just said is Glamrock Freddy, or whichever is the one from Security Breach

[silent acorn]

Creepiest nursery rhyme I Will ever know

Mrmime/Meloetta will make the creepy clown music

[gilded eagle]

Duskull/Meloetta is Phantom of the Opera

[silent acorn]

Nice. Although roserade can do that one good too

[outer matrix]

unown/meloetta

[spiral island]

Eh, still a FNAF reference :p

[silent acorn]

FNAF
Fetulent
Nasty
Ass
Farts

[spiral island]

Anyways, I feel like Xerneas mixed with Giratina would probably look like some twisted version of the Tree of Life/Yggdrasil or something

[silent acorn]

Aku tree

Like legit think it will look like an Aku Tree

[spiral island]

Hmm 🧐

[silent acorn]

Aku is cool

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/thicc-aku-samurai-jack-gif-14631094

[gilded eagle]

Mismagius/Meloetta is Nightwish or Evanescnce

[silent acorn]

Ooooh thats a very good one

[gilded eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/samuraijack-gif-8355938

[lusty oxide]

Damn didn’t know he had style like that

[spiral island]

Golurk/Porygon = Optimus Prime

[gilded eagle]

is there a samurai Jack fusion in game?

[silent acorn]

Dont know, I think maybe there is some joke alt thats literally aku

Honestly more samurai Jack or courage the dog fusions would be based

Like one is for epic action the other for disturbing horror

If you grab Granbull and fuse it with Exploud you get a pretty good courage id say

[gilded eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/eustace-bagge-courage-the-cowardly-gif-25250584

[rocky condor]

dripped out of his fucking mind.

[silent acorn]

Jack is so based my god

You know what, Cortana gets in the game someone had to make it fused with Aegislash and make a damn katana

Ok Quick question on the voting options, what is the worst options you wouldnt mind in the game

[lethal roost]

forces of nature is the one people usually hate. also magearna and shiftry

got an entire tier in the tierlist just for that 😎

[gilded eagle]

umm i will say the lake trio or Patrat line

[tulip nymph]

id love some ultra beassts tbh

[silent acorn]

Patrat? Please share with the class why you wouldnt mind it.

[silent acorn]

Druggidon is neat

[silent acorn]

You could have removed garbodor is already in the game lol

[gilded eagle]

i would not mind have more rat base fusion on the bored

[lethal roost]

i leave them where they are in the tierlist for posterity

[silent acorn]

Based Mandibuzz non hater

[alpine rune]

@brisk vessel @iron quartz I'll probably finish the trainer sprites down the week

[lethal roost]

i.e. "my opinions are always correct" type beat. everything voted into the game so far is in my top 2 tiers

[thorny ferry]

They're pretty neat

[silent acorn]

Hmmm to be honest Patrat doesnt have a bad look the evo does though

[lethal roost]

green is votes, pink is freebies

[silent acorn]

My problem with the Meowstic line and I actually had given them a 2 is that I actually wondered if the two forms took different slots

[lethal roost]

that's actually kinda weird isnt it 🤔
meowstic is one mon with drastically different traits based on gender

i wonder how that'd work if Espurr did make it in, especially because a mon caught fused doesn't have gender

[silent acorn]

I mean maybe but does that mean they take 2 each? No including espurr

[lethal roost]

im pretty sure it's only 2 slots

[silent acorn]

Honestly the uncertainty on that one didnt help me

[lethal roost]

i mean that one was worse for me because they're just not that interesting and i wanted other things first

[silent acorn]

I mean i support multiforms but only if they dont take more slots than they advertise

[iron quartz]

what

[silent acorn]

I didnt mind their palette but they are not my favorites and I havent used them, I used sawsbuck and enjoyed its concept which is why i supported at the end

[silent acorn]

Hmmm this is the thread for vote discussion

[lethal roost]

yeah sawsbuck is definitely on the bucket list theres just a lot of things in front of it

[outer matrix]

WIP on trubbish/meloetta

[silent acorn]

Unfortunately yes i was actually supporting snowlass first

[silent acorn]

What was that genre of music with trash in it? Its not dubstep is something else

[outer matrix]

kinda went on my own take where it resembles a failing music star

[silent acorn]

Huh there is trash rock

[silent acorn]

Thats good too, could look adorable and treasurable

[alpine rune]

yes. I was just excited and since meloetta is a part of the theme

[silent acorn]

Fair nuff

[alpine rune]

I promise I wont spam it here

[silent acorn]

Ok, dont worry Just pointing it out I am not gonna harass you over it

[alpine rune]

Take it as a compensation if meloetta doesnt get into the game

Anyways

[silent acorn]

Lol, she will get in the game I am almost 101% sure

Meloetta is an idol, musician, feminine and cute pokemon, she is like the ultrapealling of the mythicals of the options

Diancie is the closest second to meloetta on that

[outer matrix]

also going to make it sit down, like a fan is seeing her for the first time after falling down hard

[silent acorn]

Good one yeah, dont forget her bottle of whisky

Anymon fused with Garbodor be like: Why master why have you forsaken me Why?!?

On the other hand garbodor head on another body is like:

Hell yeah brotha! I am slim!

[outer matrix]

(except for the one I'm going to make)

[silent acorn]

Garbodor is Just happy to be alive lol

[upbeat swift]

C'mon Spheal. Please get enough votes

[outer matrix]

goober

[silent acorn]

The one at the top most left is adorable

[gilded eagle]

all of them on the top row are just happy boys

[upbeat swift]

Both him and the Spheal/Quagsire are my fave

[clever vigil]

Still working on the dancing shark

[frozen oyster]

Sealio undereated. Bottom left is very cute

[brisk vessel]

Real?

[outer matrix]

anyways gonna eat something so progress 2 (going to swap thumb placement)

[brisk vessel]

She looks miserable 🥹

[outer matrix]

she fell off and is now greeting a fan that just saw her in trash rags

[brisk vessel]

Damn gg

[green yew]

Did we ever get a list of Pokemon that made it?

[livid geyser]

we dont know all of the confirmed pokemon but outside of alleged leaks we have the following:
-sableye, the tyrunt line, the snorunt line (main slots)
-the venipede line, oricorio, the trubbish line (bonus)

[green yew]

Ah, didn't we get a playtest update?

[alpine rune]

i just need to figute out the head chibi ow sprite :v

i think i can just copy paste the body of leaf's with few modifications

[green yew]

Or was that just for the staff voted/freebies?

[alpine rune]

And just slap meloetta on the side when fishing/flute ani lol

i think theres melo assets in the files

[thorny ferry]

at this point I'm just hoping brux makes it in, I made 21ish sprites of that mf

[alpine rune]

big deal, have you seen the goom general?

[thorny ferry]

the people that made them aren't human to begin with

[alpine rune]

XD

[green yew]

You say that as if it were an insult.

[thorny ferry]

oh believe me, I'm not

[alpine rune]

mf made all of this i just feel bad about him lol

[thorny ferry]

I made that one🫡

I contributed to the goom society

[alpine rune]

🫡

[brisk vessel]

My suggestions are there even if I didn't directly sprite them

(Eternagoom and The Goomettas)

[lethal roost]

goomers

[warped finch]

IS HTAT??? MIKU

[brisk vessel]

They released the first official Hatsune Miku trainer art

[warped finch]

WHAT

[brisk vessel]

I very much hope this gives them a good enough reason to add meloetta 🥹

[ember garden]

https://tenor.com/view/toxicroak-frog-pisn-gif-26863503

[shell epoch]

so how many spots are left?

[brisk vessel]

14

[shell epoch]

atleast sableye got chosen

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-croagunk-king-throne-gif-16367260035413576996

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/tang-keke-love-live-superstar-anime-crown-you-dropped-this-gif-23333600

[sudden goblet]

As the sole gigalith stan, I am once again asking for support.

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/shellos-pokemon-walking-walk-gif-27244348

[clever vigil]

I finished it! 😄

Lil shark gremlin dancing

[alpine rune]

i still cant believe this is official

[brisk vessel]

Melosweep

[alpine rune]

I thought it was a ruse from the melo gang to get me into meloetta

[brisk vessel]

Also this isn't the first time Miku has collabed with Pokemon iirc

[brisk vessel]

There was one in the past too but it wasn't as big as this one

[stone cliff]

Have any mons been leaked through the play test?

[gentle ferry]

Possibly Necrozma. No others that haven't been announced as far as I know though.

Please report any sea slug sightings lol

[clever vigil]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[alpine rune]

Gamefreak, sound type when?

[silent acorn]

Voting is over but... I supported

[sudden goblet]

Oh shit it is? F...

[silent acorn]

Dont worry I am sure it got rightful support

I was worried about sawsbuck apparently many gave some points

[alpine rune]

I can only imagine she's a normal type trainer tho instead of psychic.

• Farfetchd
• Whimsmur
• Jigglypuff
• Chatot
• Meloetta
• Obstagoon to complete the music theme lol

[brisk vessel]

Or you know

Exploud

(I don't see why she would keep it a whismur)

[alpine rune]

whimsur is a part of exploud

[alpine rune]

i guess u right

[brisk vessel]

I could imagine a fire type Miku with Skeledirge

And a water type Miku with Primarina

[alpine rune]

tbf there's a lot of singing pokemon

[lethal roost]

ice type with jynx

[brisk vessel]

[alpine rune]

but normal ones are the ones that comes to mind because there's a lot of em

[brisk vessel]

I think the reason they did Psychic first is because Meloetta is the most obvious pick for a partner so it's the easiest one to make

[alpine rune]

Bug type with kriketune

Poison type with the lizard one in galar i forgor the name

[lethal roost]

Toxtricity, yeh

[rough hound]

me and all my metalhead friends have claimed toxicroak as our own, so thatd be a good team option

[brisk vessel]

Now that I think of it
Toxtricity and Meloetta would make a perfect fusion

Very high SpAtk + Punk Rock + STAB Boomburst

[frozen oyster]

THEY HAVE LEGS?!

[outer matrix]

nearly done, any ideas on what she should sit on?

[frozen oyster]

Exploud could use a bit of a stat buff/rework... its a 3 stage evo with only 480/490 base stat...

95 of which is in its Attack

[rough hound]

HE DO BE WALKIN THO