pif-hoenn-discussion

[odd summit]

I don’t like the woman bug UB because her body is too damn spindly what is happening

[stone cliff]

From what I understand it came from a different universe like Ultra Beasts do, but it's not from Ultra Space

[cinder oasis]

Going to the gym is awesomely amazing, Buzzwole is probably my favourite

[daring bane]

i never played the main series games but i used zeraora in one of those pokemon discord bots

[brisk vessel]

Let's be honest if Gamefreak said Eternatus was an Ultra Beast then so many more people would like it

[sturdy breach]

At the same time, that dex entry hints at it being an Ultra Beast, just one that came to the pokemon world a long ass time ago

[odd summit]

I dislike you /hj

[brisk vessel]

The only reason they don't like it is because it looks like a UB but isn't

[hushed mantle]

Eternatus is kinda forgettable ngl

[sturdy breach]

Dex entries are canonically written by the professors right?

[light garden]

I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[cinder oasis]

Doesn’t have beast boost and is a legendary, which is different from UB’s

[brisk vessel]

Considering how it looks and how it appeared in-game that's kinda shocking

[hushed mantle]

Why is it a poison type anyways?

[stone cliff]

It says reminiscent, so it's something like an UB, but not quite the same

[odd summit]

Eternatus is genuinely horrifying how can you forget the giant ominous HAND IN THE SKY?????

[brisk vessel]

I'm pretty sure almost everyone who's seen it remembers it purely because of how weird it looks

[cinder oasis]

You don’t like the gym?

[steady mountain]

Oh yeah it was a hand sometimes, I forgot about that form

[brisk vessel]

Its based on the concept of how Nuclear Radiation makes things into Giant Monsters

Like Godzilla

[odd summit]

No, I dislike people who make the gym their personality. The gym is fine. The people there… depends.

[cinder oasis]

It has a BST of 1210 I think which is crazy

[brisk vessel]

Oh yeah the master hand hydra form is also really freaky and I love it

[steady mountain]

Well they need to gas up their shitty box art legendaries somehow

[brisk vessel]

Its 1165 but still stronger than everything in the franchise

[stone cliff]

Gen 8's legendaries are my least favorite by far

[brisk vessel]

Blud has the HP of Blissey with Defenses higher than Shuckle

[odd summit]

Genuinely Eternatus hand form is terrifying, that thing scares me. Imagine looking up and seeing these dark, swirling clouds, like the apocalypse is gonna happen… and there’s this horrific alien hand thing the size of a city looming in the sky, and you don’t know it’s intentions.

[raw bison]

I mean the one thing I appreciated about how out there the UBs were was how they could poke fun at some of the concepts like a hypermasculine mosquito and gorgeous cockroach

[brisk vessel]

Zacian felt pretty lame tbh
I liked Zamazenta's design though

[cinder oasis]

The highest bst pokemon is mega Rayquaza at 780 which is an enormous difference from 1125

[brisk vessel]

1165

[hushed mantle]

I feel the same but quite the opposite

[stone cliff]

Zamazenta is alright (and as a dark souls fan I approve), but it just kinda falls short to me

[hushed mantle]

Zamazenta is gotta be the weakest box legendary

[brisk vessel]

Ah
Guess I misremembered

[sturdy breach]

Lugia, probably

[odd summit]

I like the funny sword dog partially for the meme and partially because it’s a god damn dog that holds a sword in its mouth, that’s awesome

[brisk vessel]

Base form definitely
Crowned form however is Insanely broken rn

[stone cliff]

Oh woops, I was thinking of Zacian

[hushed mantle]

Nah lugia has 154 sp defense and defog and roost

[brisk vessel]

Lugia is The Great Wall™️ of competitive

[cinder oasis]

Necrozma base is the worst I’m pretty sure

[brisk vessel]

I forgot about USUM

[sturdy breach]

Oh right, I forgot most people here play singles... my bad

[brisk vessel]

Yea Necrozma base is in UU so L

[hushed mantle]

Oh yeah that too, but i don’t know if it counts sicne it’s only its dawn/dusk forms that are in the box

[cinder oasis]

True

[brisk vessel]

If we aren't including Necrozma then yea Base Zama is the weakest box legend since Kyurem Black

[odd summit]

Kyurem White beloved

[stone cliff]

But the fucking bipedal deer riding the ghost horse is possibly my least favorite pokemon design ever

[brisk vessel]

Crowned Zama has an insanely broken Body Press set on the other hand

[brisk vessel]

Its a shame it's so Godly in competitive so you'll ALWAYS see it

[sturdy breach]

Base Zamazenta is also not shown on the box, if we are getting into technicalities

[odd summit]

Oh the uhhhh rabbit thing? I forgot what that’s called, the stupid ahh thing with the horse

[brisk vessel]

Glastrier was way cooler looking

[stone cliff]

The horse on its own is fine

[odd summit]

I hate that rabbit deer riding the horse thing idk it’s design is so goofy

[cinder oasis]

Kyreum black has been in Ubers so it’s still really good

[brisk vessel]

Calyrex was always weird to me

[raw bison]

Calyrex is shaped like a sleep paralysis demon and has the eyes for it too

[odd summit]

Calyrex that’s it’s name
It’s so disproportionate

[brisk vessel]

It got into Ubers in Gen 8
It was OU for like 6 years

Zama H is in OU as of this time
Zama C is in Ubers wrecking sht up

[hushed mantle]

Zama C was ou for like 1 day

[stone cliff]

Yeah that's the one. Calyrex. It legit made me angry when I saw it

[brisk vessel]

Yea blud with Body Press was just way too overpowered

[raw bison]

He has the same energy as the horse from that one adventure time episode that got memed really heavily

[odd summit]

I also got unreasonably angry upon seeing Calyrex and I can’t explain why. I want to punt it.

[brisk vessel]

I just remembered this is the voting channel

[sinful sky]

I...do not like Calyrex

[raw bison]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-creepyhorse-gif-3533437

[odd summit]

I’m voting for Calyrex’s destruction.

[cinder oasis]

The vote is basically over anyways

[sinful sky]

Spectrier and Glastrier are cool as hell tho

[brisk vessel]

Spectrier was okay design wise
I prefer Glastrier

Calyrex is doodoo dogwater

[steady mountain]

Froslass and glalie won, I don’t care about the rest

[raw bison]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-weird-creepy-fingers-gif-6196721

Or this mf

[sinful sky]

And Relicanth will never win, so I'm just along for the ride

[odd summit]

NOOO NOT THE DEER HANDS
THATS CALYREX
CLAYREXS HEAD IS JUST WAY BIGGER

[brisk vessel]

Its supposed to be a crown but it just doesn't look right

It looks more like a Tumor

[odd summit]

Idk why it always bugged me so damn bad that Calyrex’s head is so damn big

[raw bison]

Adventure Time Whack Horse and Deer Hands had a kid and named it Calyrex and we all must suffer

[brisk vessel]

Why couldn't they just make it look more like a traditional spiky crown

[odd summit]

They had to do the goofy ass ugly crown design

[raw bison]

Xerneas is a better deer legendary in all respects you can't change my mind

[odd summit]

True in every aspect

[brisk vessel]

I'm pretty sure calyrex isn't even meant to be a deer ongod

[stone cliff]

Gen 8 might actually be my least favorite overall

[brisk vessel]

Its supposed to be a Snow Rabbit but it just doesn't look like it 🥹

[raw bison]

I guess I could see jackalope, but the crown part of the design definitely reads as some kind of antlers

[sinful sky]

The crown doesn't bother me nearly as much as the ridiculously long noodle legs

[brisk vessel]

Oh yeah why are his legs so long anyway

[raw bison]

The proportions are all over the place in a way that is offensive to my senses

[steady mountain]

Insanely common take

[ornate lantern]

Vote altaria, Shaymin, Heatran, Toxicroak...night!

[brisk vessel]

For me Gen 8 only had like 2 legendaries I actually liked

Everything else was mid to awful

[stone cliff]

Even the gimmick pissed me off (although I admittedly liked a lot of the designs)

[brisk vessel]

Dynamax was very annoying to deal with but I did enjoy making my mons into Kaiju

[hushed mantle]

It was better than z moves imo

[brisk vessel]

Fair

I just like Kaiju ig (which is another reason I like Eternatus)

[stone cliff]

Honestly, I never even played the games lmao. It was the explanation of "nah it's an illusion they're not actually big" THEN WHY DOES THE GROUND SHAKE WHEN THEY MOVE FUCK YOU

[hushed mantle]

I liked to make strategies with gmax airstream with pu mons to sweep in ou

[raw bison]

Dynamax was a clear attempt to recapture the appeal of mega evolutions while making the gimmick equally accessible to any mon but man it did not work the same

[brisk vessel]

Inb4 it's some excuse like "the excess energy built in the mon bursts out upon landing"

[graceful torrent]

i like dynamax it looks cool

[brisk vessel]

Gigantimax forms were pretty cool though

[stone cliff]

I legit love Gigantamax Lapras' design, but the gimmick and its explanation is just so fucking lazy

[brisk vessel]

My favorite one was Centiskorch 👍

[hushed mantle]

Mine was toxtricticity

[steady mountain]

They could’ve taken a lot of those gmax forms, and just made them mega evolutions

[graceful torrent]

g-max centiskorch is so iconic that i forget what normal centiskorch is supposed to look like

[brisk vessel]

I think that's what they did in Radical Red

[graceful torrent]

honestly i wish megas were like battle bond

[brisk vessel]

Battle Bond was both nerfed and buffed in Gen 9

[graceful torrent]

or just normal evolutions for some mons

[raw bison]

They realized after z moves that part of what made people love megas was the fun new designs for existing mons but still wanted to do a different gimmick that wasn't as hard to balance. I think terastalization is a step in the right direction

[graceful torrent]

dynamax is fine in a doubles setting

[brisk vessel]

They are making Terastal Forms in the dlc

[steady mountain]

Tera at least adds something to the movement of battle besides “make guy bigger”

[graceful torrent]

youre really underselling dynamax there

[brisk vessel]

Shoutouts to Regice for being the 2nd best Ice type Regi

[steady mountain]

I don’t need to. It undersells itself.

[brisk vessel]

Gigantimax was cool
Regular dynamax is pretty lazy

[raw bison]

Dynamax was really limited mechanically by the max moves effects being based on type

[brisk vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/907237486927953960/954310485937885194/shinji_asuka.gif

[sturdy breach]

Mega's are most likely never coming back, get over it. People are hating on the mechanics that came after because they were not mega evolution.

[graceful torrent]

DYNAMAX

• asthestically dope as hell
• usable offensive and defensively
• moves work great in doubles settings since most of the stat raising/lowering affected both mons
• limited which means with proper play you can wait it out and then counter attack
• BIG FUCKING POKEMON

[steady mountain]

I don’t even like mega evolution.

[hushed mantle]

How are you sure they’re not coming back?

[stone cliff]

As someone that also doesn't like megas as a concept, I hate all of them

[hushed mantle]

Bro is trying to be different 😭

[brisk vessel]

I am neutral towards mega evolution

[steady mountain]

I just hate how Pokémon has devolved into “look at this cool new gimmick”

[graceful torrent]

bro hates FUN GIMMICKS

[steady mountain]

Gimmicks? Fun? Not too fond of having keys dangled in my face

[graceful torrent]

bring us back to gen 5 where we have GEMS (now banned in smogon singles) and PERMANENT WEATHER

[steady mountain]

Ew gross

[brisk vessel]

No I hate permanent weather

[steady mountain]

Is lil bro actually pulling “if you think thing bad, that means you love other bad thing”?

[loud depot]

Just remember
Every gimmick will become pointless since the next gen will very likely not improve on it and they dump it

[brisk vessel]

Permanent weather ruined a generation of competitive

[sturdy breach]

THey basically retconned it to a different timeline, people have been crying about them ever since they went away. That's why I say it most likely will not come back

[brisk vessel]

They also got rid of Greninja's Battle Bond form

[graceful torrent]

well we arent ash

[sturdy breach]

I find that difficult to believe with that pfp haha

[brisk vessel]

Now all it does is provide +1 in atk spatk and speed (which admittedly is actually better competitively)

[stone cliff]

Love the designs, don't like the concept lol

[graceful torrent]

i do think megas as a whole were shown off much better in the anime than they were executed in the game, speaking mechanically

[sturdy breach]

For many of them they should have just been evos. for others, they should never have existed

[stone cliff]

"Should we take the time to give new evos to overlooked mons and add diversity?*
"NAH let's make popular mons more popular and stagnate everything. Fuck it, give Charizard two of em*

[graceful torrent]

you could argue the BEST mega-concept we've seen is zygarde complete

[hushed mantle]

Raise megas. Me and my homies loves megas

[steady mountain]

Zygarde 10% was onto something. We need more legendaries that aren’t ludicrously powerful, and you won’t feel overdependent on playing a regular playthrough

[brisk vessel]

Phione

[hushed mantle]

Kids named beedrill, lopunny, pidgeot, manectric, houndoom, etc:

[steady mountain]

Pidgeot is pretty popular, ya know

[sturdy breach]

But then again, megas will not become general evo's because the pokemon who didn't deserve megas (stats wise) will never get those evos

[brisk vessel]

Half of that list is very popular

Say some actually obscure mons like Medicham and Audino

[steady mountain]

Where’s mega delcatty

[hushed mantle]

I wonder the reason for lopunny being popular

[graceful torrent]

could you say that those mons became more popular after they were given megas

[steady mountain]

Not especially, no

[stone cliff]

All of those mons had a fanbase

[brisk vessel]

Idk man Audino is still pretty forgettable

[hushed mantle]

The point is that some weak mons got megas that they absolutely needed

[graceful torrent]

audino was THE xp-grind pokemon in BW

[steady mountain]

I’ve always been an audino fan 😔

[sturdy breach]

And they ruined it by giving megas to pseudos and legendaries

[steady mountain]

Mega Mewtwo? TWO mega Mewtwos?

[brisk vessel]

Tbf Diancie was trash without it's mega

[stone cliff]

What they needed (aside from Pigeot and Beedrill) were proper 3rd evos

[hushed mantle]

Mega diancie is cool af, same about metagross

[graceful torrent]

they need to stop making supporting mons and only giving us single battles.
I WANT A DOUBLE BATTLE FOCUSED MAIN SERIES POKEMON GAME

[brisk vessel]

Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee

You play with your friend
Every battle is a double battle

[graceful torrent]

2v1 but you're getting close

[raw bison]

the trouble with megas was that they were basically meta defining - why would you not have a mega-evolving pokemon in your team if you could? So then they had a gimmick where they were basically assigning a slot on peoples teams and they had to do a wholeass new design for each pokemon they did it for - it was fun as hell but I can definitely see why they tried to move away with it

Terastal forms have a lot of potential to bring the fun of new designs that megas and gigantamaxing had while not breaking the game - provided that any special forms don't break the frigging game!

[hushed mantle]

Bro hates fun

[steady mountain]

Look. It’s never been about the games. Special forms sell plushes

[raw bison]

but they also cost more to design

[steady mountain]

Autocorrect on something

[stone cliff]

Your fun isn't everyone's fun

[raw bison]

like I'm not saying that throwing a silly hat on a mon and giving it a crystal skin effect is peak aesthetics but it was smart in a way that it could be easily applied to different mons, so they still had a pretty effect to sell their merch with but it could be applied to any mon so that it didn't define the meta like megas did

[graceful torrent]

okay so... crazy gen 10 concept is what they kinda just did for the master's world eight tournament in the anime
bring back EVERY GIMMICK for ONE GENERATION but you can only use one per battle

[hushed mantle]

That’s what makes it fun

[steady mountain]

Sounds like a balance nightmare

[graceful torrent]

sounds like fun

[brisk vessel]

That's just Pokemon Showdown Natdex

[graceful torrent]

without the dynamax because smogon is COWARDS

[brisk vessel]

NatdexAG

[graceful torrent]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

REVIVE CATS AND SHEDINJA

[hollow tulip]

What's your vote on hoopa

[graceful torrent]

funky little guy i hope he doesnt turn into a big scary hell demon

[hollow tulip]

He doesn't have unbound form

[brisk vessel]

Sprites will make it anyway

[hollow tulip]

Yeah

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-hoopa-hoopa-and-the-clash-of-ages-shadow-hoopa-pokemon-hoopa-and-the-clash-of-ages-gif-3455352264258313857

[graceful torrent]

GOD DAMMIT

[high haven]

I have finally landed on an idea for a Seviper/Meloetta fusion: the Phantom of the Opera

[hollow tulip]

But he doesn't have normal unbound form

[hushed mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1143923356232597624/hooper_propaganda_1.png

[white meadow]

Yay im on another Propaganda

[hollow tulip]

Hoopa use, look sick af

[sand mica]

This cheerful skunk alien has already voted 3 for Skuntank to be in the game. Why haven't you yet?

[graceful torrent]

I don’t like skuntank

[hollow tulip]

Because i don't like skuntank

[graceful torrent]

I never played Pearl so I never go to use one

Plus I never knew what Skuntank’s sprite was supposed to be

[hollow tulip]

A skunk with emo hair

[graceful torrent]

The back leg confused me as a child

[brisk vessel]

I gtg now so im dropping this off one last time
Bye chat

[graceful torrent]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/emile/images/d/d4/Skuntank_Platinum_Sprite.webp/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20210429215246

[odd summit]

Bro looks like he’s about to pee on your team just to spite you

Emo skunk, 0/10

[hushed mantle]

Miltank/skuntank will expel milk from its butt

[graceful torrent]

I hate that

Changing my skuntank vote to a 0 now

[manic silo]

I have arrived once more to spread Scraggy propaganda

[graceful torrent]

Keep your pants on

[manic silo]

Exactly

[hushed mantle]

Ralts already has clothes but ok

[sturdy breach]

Vote Lurantis for comfy Pyjama pants 🙂

[raw bison]

Friendly reminder and update - the Spreadsheet has now been updated for easier copying for individual usage - save a copy, fill out your own point criteria, and rest easy that your votes reflect your true feelings! Instructions are floated at the top of the sheet and included on a side sheet for good measure.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lho9CCeD4fAIDM46o58dvWCrXgJhE93lNA8XntNtQYg/edit?usp=sharing

I spent way too much time manually entering data and images for it to be just me using this thing go on and use it pls

[alpine rune]

I dont get this

[raw bison]

I would like to help you but without knowing more about what you mean I'm at a loss. Do you not get the concept, or are you having trouble with the sheet itself?

[alpine rune]

I dont get the concept. Or more so the purpose

ik this is for fun and games but i wanna join in lmao

[raw bison]

Mostly that there's a lot of mons to vote for and scrolling through the vote page makes it kind of just pure vibes what you vote on, ya know
And here people been having discussions and making arguments and even sometimes changing minds and so the idea is like how do you determine which mons deserve a three instead of a two, or a two instead of a one? So I broke my lines of thought into three categories and made a spreadsheet to do the math so I could just scroll through and check and make sure that I didn't vote something a three or a two that I actually really only have like one reason to care about

[alpine rune]

no like how does this work

[raw bison]

Oh uh, you need to put a number in there. Rename the title for what kind of category you're assigning a point on. Hang on, I'll get mine as an example

[brisk vessel]

Among us is NOT a positive

Sorry just had to come back to say that

[sturdy breach]

I also really disagree with that screenshot. Among us is NOT a positive

[alpine rune]

[raw bison]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vRvFocZk2wGiw9m-ZDBu_QG_4Y_T664MfNFUQFf14vU/edit?usp=sharing

[quasi cave]

https://tenor.com/view/rockruff-bark-anime-look-up-pokemon-gif-17234438

[brisk vessel]

Ok bye fr this time

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[raw bison]

Like column one could be "mechanical benefit" column two could be "design benefit" and three could be "meme potential" if you wanted, but if they fit the criteria you give em a point

[alpine rune]

So you weren't suppose to write words

:)

[raw bison]

Nope! There should be instructions to the right a little bit in a floating image. Ideally it makes sense to give em a one or a zero since max points are three but on mine I gave a couple twos in the "I think they're neat" category because I just love em so much

[hot grove]

What is this

[raw bison]

✨ math✨ to do the thinking for you

[hot grove]

Why are Drampa and Meloetta so low 😭

[fair jewel]

Figured i should post this here. Total type counts for Pokemon in the game (Updated as of Noivern announcement)

Grass - 19 (+1)
Fire - 18 (+1)
Water - 34 (+1)
Ice - 11 (+2)
Bug - 18 (+1)
Flying - 26 (+3)
Poison - 15 (+2)
Normal - 25 (+1)
Electric - 15 (+1)
Ground - 20
Rock - 16 (+1)
Steel - 20
Ghost - 14 (+4)
Fighting - 12
Psychic - 23 (+1)
Dark - 13 (+2)
Dragon - 16* (+4)
Fairy - 12

A few things i should note about how i counted it:

• Only final evolutions count. If a line has multiple final evolutions, they're counted seperately. If a line loses a typing when it evolves, it still counts (e.g. Scyther, Onix)
• If a mon doesn't transfer its typing during fusion, it doesn't count (e.g. Dragonite's flying type, Legendary bird's flying type, all Normal/Flying type's Normal typing)
• *Dragon types despite being in the double digits is highly inflated by multiple legendaries, all of which are only available post game. Not counting legendaries, there are only 7 dragon types.
• The numbers in brackets are what will be added to the count with the new mons
• Counted the 4 Oricorio typings as only 1 Flying type

[hot grove]

I aint reading allat

[alpine rune]

TLDR: Vote Ice types

[hot grove]

I voted some

[fair jewel]

Technically with Snorunt line being added, now Fairy has the lowest count

[sturdy breach]

Fairy probably has one of the higher percentages out of available mons for that type tho 🙂

[alpine rune]

So you want the Tapus?

:)

[raw bison]

The short answer for why meloetta and drampa are so low on my list is that they didn't earn any points out of my three criteria. The longer one I can explain but it boils down to they don't bring anything new to the game that makes me personally be like "yeah this'd be fun to have"

[hot grove]

I noticed Egg was in this channel a while ago
Did he make the Plantera sprite yet?

Also i feel like they definitely fit in the game

And from what I've seen they are also fun to sprite (at least meloetta is)

[sturdy breach]

You are like 30 mins late for asking them 🙂

[hot grove]

Drat

[alpine rune]

no spritework post yet either, but i saw their concept yesterday

[fair jewel]

Would've preferred Diancie and Magearna... maybe Ribombee too

[hot grove]

Isnt magearna just Klinklang but woman

[alpine rune]

Fair point

[raw bison]

That's why I made a blank sheet for people to copy off of - different people will have different personal criteria for what they want, and will interpret things differently, it's not like my three categories are Universal Laws or anything

[fair jewel]

Klinklang is more heavy machinery, Magearna is more clockwork

Also relying on only Klinklang for machine fusions is kinda... meh

[hot grove]

Fair enough

I guess google has ruined her image for me

[alpine rune]

Thats like asking "isnt milotic just gyarados but women?"

[hot grove]

You mean it isnt?

[sturdy breach]

It's not indeed 🙂

[raw bison]

Some people literally do not care if Darkrai is missing his sister or Regigas is missing his children, so the "makes sense" category I used wouldn't have any value to them. They might have criteria more like "has good stats", "has a unique/rare ability" and/or "has a rare typing"

[hot grove]

True

[stone cliff]

I constantly forget that Cresselia is a pokemon

[hot grove]

Did that sprite always have Bocchi hair

[alpine rune]

no lol

[hot grove]

I wonder what fusion could make Bocchi

[alpine rune]

Someone said that i should put a banjo on it and someone said that i should make a bocchi reference. but im lazy to do both

[sturdy breach]

Meloetta + Toxtricity could work (if gen8 were in)

[alpine rune]

Meloetta ditto prolly

[raw bison]

yeah she literally only got a single point from me because someone reminded me that she's darkrai's "good dream" counterpart and I was like "okay fair I guess" - She could make decent enough fusions for a number of reasons but none of them that make me really excited. So one point for sibling bonds

[hot grove]

True

I will not understand how people dont think meloetta could be fun to fuse when there are so many ideas

[raw bison]

there are other musical mons with more interesting elements than "anime girl"

[sturdy breach]

I think people are hung up on the body fusions

[hot grove]

If i could I would make a bocchi sprite but idk how to sprite 😭

[alpine rune]

I mean-

[hot grove]

Bocchi is a rockstar

[alpine rune]

No one is voting zygarde despite having 5 forms to draw from

[hot grove]

So i think it fits better than something like gardevoir in this case

[hot grove]

Zygarde is cool too

[sturdy breach]

In the votes there's Meloetta, Chatot, and perhaps Oricorio, Exploud is a boombox so idk. So there's 2 birds that very few people want.

[hot grove]

Yea the other music mons really dont have much going for them

[raw bison]

Altaria also sings - but even the three you listed have more variety going on for them for design elements. Meloetta's coolest attribute to apply to fusions is the music notation hair

[alpine rune]

i honestly take chatot over oricorio design wise

[stone cliff]

I like Chatot, but he kinda too basic to make particularly interesting fusions imo

[hot grove]

Chatot just has a music note as a head so it feels very boring tbh

Oricorio cant really change form either and is more Dancer than Singer

[sturdy breach]

Meloetta is great for body fusions (as some propaganda posters have shown), and is (imho) better for head fusions than the birds (cause I don't want every music fusion to have a bird head).

[stone cliff]

I think for a general music theme, Meloetta is the best choice

[hot grove]

Exploud is more a general sound mon like Noivern rather than a singer

[woeful nebula]

my honest to god reaction

[hot grove]

I cant tell if this is a good thing or not

But its pikmin so i will assume its a good thing

[raw bison]

He's got a little conductor outfit and metronome tail along with bright colors, I think it's very cute. And it's fair if you want music in particular, but I just ain't feeling it. I'm not a huge fan of musicians in general so it's just not my vibe. I can see where the appeal is but it ain't for me

[woeful nebula]

pikminpikminpikminpikmin

[stone cliff]

I don't understand the correlation

[woeful nebula]

mabye try throwing bricks at poor people

[sturdy breach]

Anyway, this please 🙂

[hushed mantle]

He has a nice color palette and can make other pokemon be colorful

[hot grove]

I voted for these mons already

Except like gogoat and sableye

[sturdy breach]

Sableye isn't there by choice, made this after it was already confirmed

[frank oxide]

yo that lanturn thing is sick anyways y'all should vote delmise

[fair jewel]

Gib me Tsareena

[frank oxide]

where is my boy. you have commited a great sin against humanity that will nt be forgotten.

[hot grove]

Im trying to look at chatot in better light but i just aint seeing the appeal beyond "cute bird with note head"

[raw bison]

Like if I want a mon that's got singing as a theme, jigglypuff is in the game already, kriketune has a fun little instrument theme - meloetta's music hair is pretty and does what she does well, sure, can't argue against that, but it doesn't appeal to me any more than any other music mon's aesthetics. I can add SFX to whatever singing mon I want to cause it sings

[sturdy breach]

I had to make room for the goat (ZeroCipher convinced me with a Goodra/Gogoat fusion sprite), so Xurkitree and Dhelmise got bumped off

[frank oxide]

fake png lmao

[hot grove]

If it already does what it does well that still means it could be a good fit tbf

You dont have to like it but you have to admit it would be a good addition

[raw bison]

I'm not gonna like rage if she gets in, but no, I don't have to admit it would be a good addition

[hot grove]

I know plenty of people would want an excuse to make Hatsune Miku that actually makes sense

[frank oxide]

Creature of flesh,my gratitude upon thee for an explanation,but thy crimes thy have commited against humanity,are NOT forgotten,and thy punishment.. IS DEATH

[hot grove]

Because the gardevoir one doesn't really match either mons themes

[raw bison]

I don't see any reason I would want Meloetta that I couldn't get out of using any other mon, so she's a shrug from me dawg

[hot grove]

If i was a spriter i could not make Miku from chatot or oricorio

[sturdy breach]

Just so you know, the vote itself did not change because of it

[frank oxide]

oh nice

then its fine 👍

[hot grove]

Dhelmise has potential i think so i gave it a 2

[frank oxide]

give it a 3 or i am minos priming you

[woeful nebula]

what does that mean

[hot grove]

I need to see some sprites first before i make my Final Judgement

[hot grove]

Ultrakill i believe im not sure

[woeful nebula]

i do not play ultra kill

[hot grove]

Its the game that has official "plug" support right

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-rick-roll-rickastley-spongebob-gif-19367765

[woeful nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/kys-cat-cats-gun-death-gif-26408874

[hot grove]

Im gonan call the mods on you !

[sturdy breach]

I do have to say, I'm disappointed. If Goodra wasn't such a joyful and friendly pokemon I would have deducted points from Dhelmise out of spite 😉

[woeful nebula]

kinda cringe ngl

[alpine rune]

Pretty sure theyll ban you first

[frank oxide]

Creaure of flesh, my gratitude upon thee for an argument.But thy crimes thy have commited against humanity,are NOT forgotten,and thy punishment is death !

[frank oxide]

wht des goodra have to do wih it

[hot grove]

Mute*

[hushed mantle]

I found this one

[frank oxide]

it sadly is

[alpine rune]

Oh mb

[raw bison]

but to clarify again, the spreadsheet is meant to be a tool for people to use to check their own votes against their own internal logic cause there's 182 things to assign a score to and just vibing it out might leave folks (like me) feeling like they're gonna have regrets. So if you wanna check your votes against your internal logic, that's what it's there for and I'm just gonna plug it every now and then so people have a chance to see it and use it if they want to

cause I spent a lot of time on it and I mean I'm mostly done with it so I'd like the work I put in to be valuable to other people too ya know

[hot grove]

Also im pretty sure we aren't allowed to tell people to Kay Why Ess
Even as a joke

[sturdy breach]

Unless your opinion changed, I remember you saying "no way I'm voting for Goodra"

[frank oxide]

ohhh right,ye it changed dw

[sturdy breach]

Then it's ok 😉

[alpine rune]

Pretty sure you werent allowed to say that device either

[frank oxide]

when i did my revoted i pput it at 2 (was kinda liking it,could see it and all but not in myfavs) and i just changed it to 3 rn,its cool

[alpine rune]

Nice move

[hot grove]

I just remembered aren't hisuian goodra like Super clingy

[frank oxide]

and seeing how the mods use the pokemon that arent really wanted in a sprite pack (ex: snorunt maybe idk) tomake great sprites,sliggoo will prob be used

[sturdy breach]

All Goodra are. They get lonely easily

[raw bison]

I think Hisuian Goodra kind of have like a separation anxiety level of it though. Regular Goodra are clingy, Hisuian ones are worse

[hot grove]

Ok my class is starting so im gonna go now cya guys

[white meadow]

Voteings will be closed in some days so here is a reminder to get sure that these are 3s in your votes

[sturdy breach]

For H-Goodra "It loathes solitude and is extremely clingy—it will fume and run riot if those dearest to it ever leave its side."
For regular Goodra: "An amazingly friendly Pokémon, but if left to itself, loneliness overcomes it, and it oozes gooey tears."

Basically H-Goodra is more wild, and goes berserk (less human contact). Regular Goodra gets sad.

[alpine rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1135509903176380496/1138066492064276500/ghost-fucking-hell.gif

[raw bison]

Regular goodra is a bit better adjusted, but they definitely are both clingy extroverts for sure

[clever atlas]

Top o' the morn' to ya laddies!
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[mild sedge]

if somebody replies to this I’ll sleep

[nocturne current]

https://tenor.com/view/swablu-altaria-pokemon-birb-bird-gif-12157582

[sturdy breach]

gn

[mild sedge]

Alr gn last Propaganda post of the day

[alpine rune]

I really hope the legendary/mythics/UBs we get isnt like a pair

[worn crown]

👍

[sturdy breach]

Yes, like Meloetta 🙂

[alpine rune]

Then again, when it comes to UBs I kinda feel bad if only 1 comes to the game, I need all of them or none of them

[alpine rune]

Yea, my bets are on Necrozma or Meloetta at this point. I wanna say diance, but honestly, I never heard anyone talking about it, kinda like zygarde

I really hope its not Lunala line

No hate to yall, I reall love Necrozma Dawn Wings, but the slots used for cosmog and cosmoem really could be used by other mons

[sturdy breach]

Cosmoem especially

[alpine rune]

Like Aurorus:

[raw bison]

My personal legendaries of choice would be the XY ones - I love Red Lugia and LED Tree

[clever atlas]

People not realising that the tapus would be the worst legendary set

[sturdy breach]

Regis, Lake Trio, and Forces of nature say hi

At least the tapus have distinct shapes

[clever atlas]

Ok, but i Went for the lowest ratio of value to slot count

[raw bison]

Okay I'll yield on the forces of nature because we don't get therian forms and I will absolutely agree on the lake trio but the regis have solid merits in my book

[sturdy breach]

We already have Regigigas and Golurk, I don't think we need more golems.

[violet current]

so long as i get zygarde im content with 2 meh legendaries along with em

[clever atlas]

In a game with fusions, the tapus would look all the same

[native nebula]

You will break the fossil doing it like that. Use a brush.

https://tenor.com/view/dig-scavare-jurassic-park-brush-digging-gif-16160475

[worn crown]

zeraora for IF !!!

[raw bison]

I don't think we need em, but I think they got value. I really don't like Regigigas, but I could do a lot of fun things with the other three Regis

[sturdy breach]

In a game of fusions they at least bring as much as the regis design wise. bonus for their abilities

[violet current]

the other 3 regis are all cool in their own way but everything they do is done better by other mons when it comes to fusions

[native nebula]

Imagine we get another fossil and we mine it and they reveal it is not them.

[clever atlas]

But they take one more slot

[clever atlas]

Archeops moment

[sturdy breach]

and 4 more fairy types people want so badly. Value for slots is (way) higher than the regis imo

[violet current]

are you gonna choose regice or froslass for your cool ice fusion? regirock or gigalith? registeel or aggron?

[raw bison]

The regis bring pretty decent stats to three different types that don't have a lot of rep in high stat groups and really simple aesthetics of "elemental robot" that, while not bringing anything groundbreaking to the table are all pretty solid for working with

[cinder oasis]

Gigalith is 3 slots so I’d rather have the regitrio than gigalith tbh

[clever atlas]

But fairy is strong against goodra
You don't want that

[native nebula]

Even funnier if it was a chatot and they just hard messing with us.

[violet current]

gigalith was not a good example lol i just think its got cool fusions for "big ass rock thing"

[sturdy breach]

But I'm probably known as the one that shits on the Regis the most in this chat, and I admit I am very biased against them. I find them extremely boring.

[raw bison]

Sometimes you just want a mon to be made out of rocks, or ice, or metal instead of what it normally is, and the Regis aren't the only ones that let you do that, but they let you do that with a strong stat spread and no real baggage.

[clever atlas]

Yeah gigalith is cracked

[violet current]

i am a massive regi fan

[sturdy breach]

And the memes surrounding them only made it worse for me

[violet current]

i just do not think they fit here. this ain't the game for them, theres way more potential with other options and sometimes you have to make the tough calls

[native nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702626820876533851/1124401734488445009/New_Piskel.gif

[alpine rune]

Me realizing that adding more legendaries means that Frogman would make more puzzles and modify the maps in the game

[raw bison]

I think having them in there to compliment the presence of gigas since they're fundamentally tied together makes sense, and they bring decent types and stats. Their designs are definitely simple, but honestly sometimes that's nice. Not gonna inspire anything crazy for sure but I'd like to slap Registeel on things and make more robot dragons

[violet current]

you have options for that already though

[alpine rune]

Fun fact, if theres a regi triple/quad fusion, they would have 8x/16x weakness to fighting

[sturdy breach]

The only one that has a decent enough stat spread to work with is Regice probably

[violet current]

why spend three slots on that when you can just use klinklang or aggron or magnezone or any of the other mechanical mons

[sturdy breach]

Mostly because they are so damn slow

[brisk vessel]

I would not mind regice because it would be an easier Ramiel fusion

[raw bison]

the three you mentioned all have additional aesthetics than just metal - Armored Dinosaur, UFO, Gears...maybe I want a terminator aesthetic sometimes, ya know?

[brisk vessel]

But 3 slots ain't worth it imo

[alpine rune]

I thought ur sleeping

[brisk vessel]

I left to do homework

[raw bison]

Plus two of the three have secondary typings so you only get the steel type if you fuse it in a particular order

[brisk vessel]

Anyways hot take but I wouldn't mind the genies

You can always just use the therian form for fusion sprites

[violet current]

the genies are awesome (except lando)

[raw bison]

^ Yeah I really want to use therian thundurus personally but alas I don't think there's gonna be enough pull for em

[sturdy breach]

Or just ask Frogman to implement them as Therian haha 🙂

[alpine rune]

same

[violet current]

ive been playin a lot of gen 9 uu and thundurus is really fun

[brisk vessel]

Thundurus T has one of the coolest cries

[raw bison]

I just absolutely adore his design. His face is a little bit wonky but honestly the pose - the power - the P R E S E N C E
I love him

[brisk vessel]

And don't forget Tornadus would also give us a new Prankster mon

[violet current]

they both have prankster

[brisk vessel]

Oh yeah

2 new Prankster mons

[violet current]

although i prefer defiant on thundurus

[brisk vessel]

Doesn't defiant boost Attack

[violet current]

bc nobody expects it

[brisk vessel]

If you're going for the switcheroo then yea it could be funny

[raw bison]

Yeah they got some solid uses but I'm sure most people are just gonna see the really similar base designs and go "oh right those guys" and pass on em so I've been drinking my copium for Thundurus daily but it has yet to slake my thirst

[sturdy breach]

If we are talking about abilities only, Tapus would give 4 unique abilities. (still voted tapus only a 1 BTW, not pushing them)

[violet current]

tapus suck genies arent worth 3 slots

im pushing for as few legendaries as possible in this vote

[sturdy breach]

And both are better than the regis 🙂

[violet current]

my ideal selection would be one legend one mythical one ub

[sturdy breach]

But yeah, I have only voted on a few mythicals, and 2 UBs when it comes to Legends etc. Voted high at least

[violet current]

and then save the rest of the slots for pokemon that you can actually use outside of randos

[raw bison]

I think we can argue circles around most of the legendary trios but it does seem to me that we all agree the lake trio bring nothing of value and I think that's beautiful

[violet current]

its gonna be one of the box trios if we get a trio at all

[sturdy breach]

I would still vote lake trio over regis, because at least they are cute 🙂

[violet current]

thats why im pushing for zygarde bc its so disconnected from its other 2 trio members that it could work fine on its own

[alpine rune]

Ok. Thats genius. I tip my hat to you

[violet current]

if i had to pick itd be zygarde, marshadow, blacephalon/pheromosa

[sturdy breach]

I would probably go with 2 mythicals in Meloetta and Zeraora

[violet current]

why zeraora?

[sturdy breach]

Striking colours, cool cat mon

I would have voted Purloin if Purugly wasn't attached to it

[worn crown]

ZERAORA

[violet current]

purloin and purugly are 2 seperate lines

[alpine rune]

I wonder if i can still change the votes, but then again I dont think it would matter now 😔

[sturdy breach]

Sorry Glameow 🙂

[raw bison]

aight Imma walk away for a bit, might go to sleep, who knows, but gonna drop the spreadsheet link again because I added an example of how to use in addition to the instructions. I spent a lot of time entering all the images and names so if anybody wants to ~mathematically calculate~ how they're voting I already did the legwork, you just gotta save a copy of the sheet, decide on your own criteria and assign your points accordingly, at least until the vote closes
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lho9CCeD4fAIDM46o58dvWCrXgJhE93lNA8XntNtQYg/edit?usp=sharing

[violet current]

all i care abt is dhelmise tbh

if dhelmise gets in im satisfied

[sturdy breach]

Would have voted Glameow, if it wasn't attached to Purugly

[alpine rune]

My votes are these

I just want a hail setter

Anything other than that is a bonus

[sturdy breach]

Yeah the one we have in PIF is not great 🙂

Hail setter that is.

[alpine rune]

deliird moment

Honestly if i want legends, Id probably go for the Tapus

idk bout yall but terrains are fun

[violet current]

minior based

see i wish we had the cool legend terrain setters but gen 9 isnt allowed

[alpine rune]

but since its 4 mons, Ima just back off and put 2 legends that has the most fusion potential

[brisk vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145372828959518750/1146126829019742359/251.251a.png

[alpine rune]

NOO STOP HOLDING ME AT GUNPOINT YOU MELOETTA VOTERS

[smoky basalt]

I vote for the GOAT of fire type

[sterile spoke]

Oh boy, do I have news for you...

Your list includes 20 Pokémon, when the game's actually adding 23. 😛

[sturdy breach]

Oh cmon man, those are free space 🙂

[sturdy breach]

No need to add them for the 'slots' 🙂

[native nebula]

I hope it is the cloud bois

[sturdy breach]

I hope it's Goo

[native nebula]

But my bet would be the goo

[sturdy breach]

I'm still doubting the general public when it comes to Goo

[sterile spoke]

By that logic, so are the ones already in the game. 😛

There's 14 slots left. 😄

[sturdy breach]

Yeah, but they are part of the 20 slots 😉

[alpine rune]

Make a bingo card for the remaining 14 slots :v

[alpine rune]

Put your most wanted mons here and play a game :D

[sturdy breach]

This is already my bingo card, 6 squares ticked off 🙂 Aurorus would then technically give me bingo on the horizontal

[alpine rune]

fair point

lemme find my original list

[sturdy breach]

Would be better if there were actually 24/25 slots to fill 🙂

[alpine rune]

wow a big fat

ZERO

[sterile spoke]

Ah, I'm picking up what you're putting down. 🙂

[worn crown]

then get a gun urself

[alpine rune]

gun not found
Not in america

[worn crown]

ok wait a sec

so, will you choose Charmander the flamethrower type?
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[worn crown]

Choose your starter weapon pokemon!

[alpine rune]

Squirtle

[worn crown]

the world of pokemon awaits you Zan! go out and shoot some stuff

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-bucket-running-away-expiration-date-inhuman-thoughts-gif-21691393

[worn crown]

ya i forgot the order
of prof. oak dialogue

[chrome maple]

Please vote for Noivern line because:

1. We need more FLYING TYPE HEAD.
2. It has WYVERN DRAGON TYPE BODY, so that we could make more Hunter Monsters and HTTYD's dragons references, which actually have dragon type.
3. It looks more like a BAT than Crobat line and Gliscor line.
4. Noibat is a CUTIE-PIE
5. The COLORS SCHEME is gorgeous
6. It's have STRONG MOVES POOL such as: Hurricane, Heat Wave, Boomburst, Dragon Pulse

[sterile spoke]

References shouldn't be a reason for voting Pokémon in. 😛

[chrome maple]

It just an example for how cool Wyvern body can be:))

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[drifting mason]

Lycanroc's one of my personal choices but I find the 3 formes thing as a point against it imo. The orange one seems sort of irrelevant of you have the other 2

[clever atlas]

I mean if you want edgy like the midnight form but still quadruped

[drifting mason]

For fusions, that'll matter a lot less

If I want edgy but quadruped, I'd fuse Midnight with a quadruped

[chrome maple]

Speedy rock sound reasonable. I hope it will be add

[clever atlas]

But its still an option
More options are rarely a bad thing

[drifting mason]

Accelerock is a cool move

[sterile spoke]

It's just Quick Attack, but Rock-type. 😛

[viscid mica]

priority rock stab with technician would be pretty good tho

[drifting mason]

Exactly

[clever atlas]

Here's the thing tho, rock is very good offensively

[viscid mica]

man i want body press or whatever the defense scaling move is called so bad but its gen 8

[tender flume]

man i know there's like next to no chance but i wish cryogonal would get added to the game

it'd make so many cool fusions

[drifting mason]

Aqua Jet and Mach Punch are still competitive staples for a reason

[sterile spoke]

No love for poor Vacuum Wave, eh?

[white meadow]

also bullet punch

[drifting mason]

Special move on phys pokemon

[viscid mica]

bullet punch is good but its mainly only used becuz scizor learns it naturally since steel offense isnt that desirable

[drifting mason]

Yeah I don't think most steel types are running Bullet Punch but hey, the one guy that does pulls it off well

[viscid mica]

yea

[tender flume]

metagross usually runs it

the reason bullet punch isn't used that much is because it isnt that well distributed

[viscid mica]

like, just because machamp pulls of dynamic punch really well doesnt mean its a good move

[tender flume]

mega medicham runs it too

[viscid mica]

mega medicham has huge power so, same reason as why its good on scizor, ability diff

[tender flume]

i mean stab priority is just good to have

[viscid mica]

i mean yea

[tender flume]

lucario runs it sometimes too

[viscid mica]

steel stab is just generally not as good as the other base 40 priority moves barring quick attack

[tender flume]

yea i agree but that's more of a problem with the steel type than with bullet punch

[viscid mica]

a problem with the steel type is by extension a problem for bullet punch

[sterile spoke]

They literally changed Water Shuriken because of this. 😂

[viscid mica]

also only a few of the steel types run bullet punch, meanwhile ice shard is like the third most commonly used ice type attack after ice beam and blizzard

[drifting mason]

I don't think there's many rock type moves in general is there

[viscid mica]

yea

[drifting mason]

Accelerock could be neat for that too ig

[tender flume]

i mean that's cuz most steel types dont even get bullet punch, whereas almost every ice type gets ice shard

[viscid mica]

off the top of my head i can only think of a couple good rock moves and two of them aren't 100% acc

[clever atlas]

Especially with the lack of rock slide and stone edge TMs

[tender flume]

bronzong, bisharp/kingambit, genesect, mega mawile

those mons would definitely have sets using bullet punch if they got it

[viscid mica]

now that i think about it

why are there so many <100% acc rock moves

[tender flume]

idk, it's a big meme that rock types dont have 100% accurate moves

they gave diancie a signature rock move and even that isnt 100% accurate

[clever atlas]

The strongest physical 100% accurate rock move is freaking Smack down

[tender flume]

yeah

they should just make rock blast 100% accurate tbh

[viscid mica]

5 rock moves have 100% acc (not including g-max volcalith) and 1 of them isnt an attack

out of 25 rock moves

[sterile spoke]

And only like 2 100% accurate ones. 😭

[fresh salmon]

How's ludicolo going?

[sterile spoke]

No way of knowing. 😛

[fresh salmon]

No way of knowing out of No way of knowing is a great position, maybe it'll end up winning with no way of knowing chances

[fresh salmon]

Anyways, can you show the 3 least voted Mons rn like before please?

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

I don't know how many times I have to say I don't have access before people realise I don't have access. 😂

[fresh salmon]

I'll leak them😈:

Necrozma
Goodra
Lycanroc

And the most voted are:

Bruxish
Volbeat/Illumise
and...........

[sharp nebula]

meloetta!

[fresh salmon]

Elemental monkeys!

[sharp nebula]

😠

[fresh salmon]

Meloetta is the 4th least voted

[sharp nebula]

nuh uh

[fresh salmon]

Sorry is the 100% true trust me leak

[robust geyser]

One day till new reveal

Hope it's either Xerneas/Yveltal, Aurorus, Rockruff or Noyvern

[sterile spoke]

According to? 😮

[brisk vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/641658156790972426/947961658377109574/49C179BD-8901-458C-8377-3427E12FC876.gif

[robust geyser]

(idk but usually it's some time after the end of the previous contest)

[alpine rune]

Isn't it like a week?

[robust geyser]

Snowrunt line contest end in 16 hours

[alpine rune]

I would guess like it would be revealed around friday

[brisk vessel]

It would be around the weekend

[sharp nebula]

i feel like its just whenever they want, no real pattern to it

[alpine rune]

Lmao this

Place your bets, I'm calling it's Aurorus

[sterile spoke]

Nope, it's Donphan. 🙂

[robust geyser]

but just like old timey people thinking frogs on a ladder would predict the weather, i decided to base my predictions of new reveal around the contests

[sterile spoke]

But which Donphan, as we now canonically have Donphan, Donphan 2, and Donphan 3. 😂

[brisk vessel]

Donphan 4 duh

[robust geyser]

Donphan 4 then

[alpine rune]

[sterile spoke]

Wrong, it's obviously Donphan 7: Donphan May Need Glasses. 😛

[robust geyser]

(Donphan is already in the game, yes ?)

[alpine rune]

Probamayhaps

Probamayhaps sounds like a name for pokemon 💀

[robust geyser]

He evolves in "wejustdontknow"

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-know-dont-know-bird-clueless-gif-12587825

[alpine rune]

Final Evo would be Uncerdoubtnot

[clever atlas]

Beeg boi

[white meadow]

For now it was between right after the contest or a day later

[toxic dock]

i hope they announce the next group

[clever atlas]

Most likely tommorow or early next day

[white meadow]

Thats a hint
Its a Ground type

[robust geyser]

Donphan is the closest we have to a transformers in pokemon

[white meadow]

sylveon?

[tiny compass]

Im telling you rn, we aint seeing: a) Goodra line; b) Salazzle line; c) Melloeta; d) Lurantis line. I would also love to see all of those added, but we will however get altaria and the other fossil.

[white meadow]

How would you know?

[sharp nebula]

we have a time traveller ladies and gentlemen

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/time-travel-time-traveling-time-traveler-hulk-mark-ruffalo-gif-22954295

Ngl I would love seeing Salazzle fusion
Even more the head versions cuz we would get many monitor lizards

[sturdy breach]

Worst timeline

When we see no Goodra 🙂

[white meadow]

I hope hypnotoad sees your message and adds them

Talking about votes
Dont forget to go sure that these 2 are a 3 in your Votes

[sharp nebula]

dont forget about this cutie

[white meadow]

Yes!

[clever atlas]

Also don't forget about these good bois

[mortal kraken]

I second my vote for Dhelmise. If we don't get Trevenant, I want to at least see this Anchor with (technically) 3 Types in there too

[tiny compass]

Damn, I wish so too 😄 like I said, id love to see all of those, but have a weird general feeling that they might not get in 😦

[brisk vessel]

Don't think

Just believe
If you believe hard enough you can will the universe to add them

That's what I'm doing (that and making meloetta sprites in advance)

[agile olive]

I would love archeops 🙂

[mortal kraken]

Egg is gonna nuke the spirte Gallery once Meloetta is announced (looking forward to it)

[brisk vessel]

I have so many lined up

[tiny compass]

Hell yeah, I cant wait for that. Hope she gets in, id love music themed fusions

[brisk vessel]

If a melo contest ever gets announced I will probably submit the Aegislash one

[brisk vessel]

Archeops is also cool

[clever atlas]

You know who's also cool?

[alpine rune]

Oh god that ivysaur tail

[clever atlas]

That's a Shell
As seen on sliggoo

[crude garden]

The Ivysaur sliggoo?

[brisk vessel]

Goodra

[crude garden]

Yeah, I might eventually redo that one if new inspiration strikes, my thought was to make the shell big enough to hide in, but ivysaurs wouldn't really hide

It's the only goom I'm not super satisfied with, I posted it here with a bunch of other gooms of you wanted to help, or suggest a new pose or something https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1143631236456255560

[white meadow]

Goomy line has quiet some sprites already

[sterile spoke]

Let's not focus on the #1050404143807873157 here. 😛

[crude garden]

Yeah, that's why I put the link so we could drop the subject of advice and return to the true purpose of this channel, worshipping Goomy

[brisk vessel]

If it gets in I'm making a reference fusion (it will be yet another Gardevoir body)

[sterile spoke]

Reference fusion? More like reason for me to not vote for Goodra.

[sturdy breach]

Tsk, not like you were voting for it to begin with 🙂

[brisk vessel]

[sterile spoke]

Believe it or not, I did. 😂

It was one of my few 3s. 😄

[sturdy breach]

I thought you were against it? 😮

[sterile spoke]

I am as a Mod. I am not as a Pokémon enjoyer. 😅

[sturdy breach]

It's friend shaped after all 🙂

[brisk vessel]

When do we get Guzzetta

When do we get Guzztus

Because Eternalord already exists

[sharp nebula]

never 😊

[alpine rune]

I know I'm late for this

[brisk vessel]

Then I will do it

Screaming woman will be real

[alpine rune]

But Ima make a propaganda poster of legendaries i want

[sharp nebula]

meloetta doesnt need any help to scream

[alpine rune]

Imagine if meloetta gets sound based abilities

instead of serene grace

[brisk vessel]

Hidden ability
Punk Rock

[alpine rune]

this thing gets that

[white meadow]

Ngl this Channel made me like Blaquaza more
Before it I only knew him as someone people often fear in theyr Spritework threads😂

[brisk vessel]

It's the only sound boosting ability I could think of

[alpine rune]

Meloetta with Punk Rock:
*Starts saying [grawlixes]

[brisk vessel]

Soundproof and Liquid Voice don't exactly make sense here

[alpine rune]

I think thats the only one

[brisk vessel]

Yea that's what I thought

Alternatively it could also have Dancer as a HA

[alpine rune]

oh true

[cerulean tundra]

let me believe in goodra
salazzle and lurantis i believe will not get in
meloetta im on the fence on
i see more goodra support than altaria support, so i think you're kinda high on that one

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/regi-gif-21907523

[regal vault]

It will be very sad if he is not added, the guy put effort into these sprites

[short garden]

yeah, there seem to be very few altaria fans...

goodra is nearly guaranteed, it's a dragon-type pseudo(silent voters) and all the speaking voters either love it or don't mind it

[cerulean tundra]

i gave altaria a 2 i think

i like the cloud aesthetic
that said, i wouldn't have voted at all if not for goodra

[alpine rune]

Vote for Zygarde

Look I just want a Mech, a Snake, a Dog and a silly creature to use fusions with. I want the 5 in 1 package

tnx :)

[crude garden]

Vote for the goom

[cobalt nebula]

Vote for Regi

[cobalt nebula]

Goodra kills child.

[sturdy breach]

Child asked for it, Goodra is a good boy and obliged

[cobalt nebula]

Goodra is Canadian confirmed.

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-19117466

https://tenor.com/view/regice-knc-pokemon-fuck-you-gif-22326615

I mean-

Imagine if we pick only 3 legendaries and make a triple fusion out of it

It'll be a fair middle ground for anyone who wants legendaries

[robust geyser]

what if we picked 18 legendaries and made 6 triple fusions out of it ?

[alpine rune]

Tho that would mean the tapus is out of the question

Even worse, we need 5 slots for necrozma/solgaleo/lunala

Mons like meloetta and magearna needs to find alternatives

[white meadow]

triple regis would literally just be registeel with a 8x weakness to fighting

[cobalt nebula]

And?

[alpine rune]

ik which makes it funny

If its like quad fusion with regigigas its 16x weak to fighting, which is even more hysterical

[cobalt nebula]

Regigigas makes a ghost regi not because he wants to but because he HAS TOO

[white meadow]

scrappy:

[robust geyser]

is there a ghost legendary ?

[cobalt nebula]

Giritinia? I think?

[alpine rune]

giratina

[white meadow]

lunala

[robust geyser]

ah yes

i was persuaded that Yveltal was one

[white meadow]

the bird of death isn't a ghost type 🔥

[meager python]

I would argue that its evil though

Yveltal itself isnt dead, it just kills.

[sand mica]

What do you think would be cooler if Skuntank fused with it?

[meager python]

Slurpuff?

[white meadow]

is it really evil to fulfill your purpose

like if no one died it would be catastrophic

[sharp nebula]

just made a new grid

new on the left

[west gorge]

Yveltal or Xerneas doesn’t really control death /life no? They seem like just big life/death timebombs to me

[west gorge]

Ribombee gaming

[cobalt nebula]

I mean, they both control it yeah s just not enmasse. With exception to Yvetal if he dies

[gentle ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1141183759148920872/7vvykb.gif

[west gorge]

That’s my second favorite mom

[cobalt nebula]

Xerneas can grant true immortality where you can’t die, period.

[spring abyss]

You should fuse [pokemon of your choice] with claydol, bit you can only do that if you vote for them

[cobalt nebula]

Mienshao? Idk

[meager python]

True but killing everyone would be equally as so

[white meadow]

well that's why they coexist together

[alpine rune]

thanks, saving this

[alpine rune]

Waiting for the obligatory regigigas gif

[naive cobalt]

he is definitely in excruciating pain

[sturdy breach]

nah 🙂

[meager python]

The yveltal goomy is to cute

[alpine rune]

Make ninjask/goomy

[clever atlas]

Did you look through all the 4 billion spinda variations?

[surreal chasm]

Hey ya'll, just a reminder that Palossand's FUSION potential is INFINITE.

• It has a low skill floor and** high skill ceiling**.
• Head fusions could lead to many creative sand structures.
• Body fusions could literally be any building you can think of.
• the sand castles that **already are in IF ** would finally get their long deserved revenge on the players that kicked them over.

[alpine rune]

so basically make them %chance static encounters like geodudes in boulders

[white meadow]

also they could respawn meaning easy negative karma

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[surreal chasm]

It just works so naturally

[proper schooner]

Don't need more dogs

[surreal chasm]

Casuals wouldn't even realize it's a newly added mon lol

[clever atlas]

Says who?

[proper schooner]

Says me

[alpine rune]

I hate this

[rough hound]

Spent some time in the kitchen and cooked up somethin nice for yall

[gentle ferry]

Why hate mos

[sturdy breach]

Sorry forgot to credit, Espurr Megcrow on Pinterest 🙂

[clever atlas]

So wholesome

[surreal chasm]

I love Rockruff but how much would it really contribute fusionwise that we didn't have already?

[clever atlas]

Fast rock type that isn't called aerodactyl

[crude garden]

Goodra is friend shaped

[proper schooner]

It could do some wear wolf stuff with midnight form but that's about it fusion design wise

[sturdy breach]

and friend natured

[crude garden]

Goodra is the kind of friend that borrows $20 and gets it back to you the next day

[sturdy breach]

Goodra is the type of friend that borrows 20 and gives you back 25 🙂

[proper schooner]

We're already getting tyrantrum which has a pretty good speed stat compared to most rock types and gets dragon dance to help it out speedwise

[surreal chasm]

I meant design wise

[clever atlas]

Like luxray but slimmer

And rockier

[surreal chasm]

Lycanroc is my favorite doggy mon but I don't see it inspiring many new creative designs that Arcanine and Houndoom couldn't be used for

[brisk vessel]

I forgot about houndoom
Nobody uses it for the dog

[steady mountain]

Which is probably the best thing for a dog

[proper schooner]

Luxrays mid anyway

[clever atlas]

Arcanine is way bigger and Houndoom has the bone aesthetic

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[steady mountain]

Gastrodon is pretty hype, this is true

[steady mountain]

I’d imagine most spriters would make two of their fusion

[crude garden]

One for midnight and one for midday?

[steady mountain]

Would a gastrodon/gastrodon fusion just be a West Sea with East Sea colour scheme?

Or vice versa?

[violet pawn]

uuhh sorry, no. not possible.

[cobalt nebula]

It looks great but does it have a thread yet? I saw someone get in trouble for not having a thread for their new sprites. I could be misremembering though

[surreal chasm]

I had to dismiss a lot of my favorite mons while voting because some of them just already have similar enough equivalents already in the game.
On the other hand I chose some pokemon I didn't care for before because I see a lot of nuance in them and I genuinely believe they provide new opportunities for new types of fusions

[steady mountain]

Look, as long as we don’t get zeraora I’m very happy

We already got my main pick, after all

[gentle ferry]

Time to make west mos tonight lmao

[brisk vessel]

My main pick is a mythical so I'm expecting it to be at the end of the dex 🥹 (it's not zeraora (I do not like him))

[crude garden]

My most wanted is a pseudolegendary

[sturdy breach]

Same

[clever atlas]

My pick is

[surreal chasm]

I didn't really care for Palossand for example before the votes but in the context of Infinite Fusion I just can't ignore how many new design opportunities it would bring to the table

[brisk vessel]

Melosand
Make it now

[crude garden]

I can't actually think of any picks that would actively disappoint me, except maybe the elemental monkeys, and even that's only because they share so much design space and take six spots

[surreal chasm]

Ooooh what if it was a dance club?

[brisk vessel]

Dance club or Karaoke bar either could work I think

[gentle ferry]

I wonder what the Gastrodon guy’s pick is

[crude garden]

Pikachu palossand should be that one official art

[brisk vessel]

I wonder if a Yvelsand would just be a graveyard

[white meadow]

My number 1 pick was Scoli
Now these are my nr 3 and 2 (in that order yes)

[surreal chasm]

Marowak/palossand would be 100%

[brisk vessel]

True

[sturdy breach]

Goosaur

[crude garden]

All the goosaurs came out super well, and they tell a story too that I'm really happy with

[sturdy breach]

2 Goosaur, 1 Sligsaur 🙂

[crude garden]

No I mean goomy bulbasaur goomy Ivysaur and goomy Venusaur

[sturdy breach]

ah right 🙂 yeah they did!

[brisk vessel]

If it gets in I WILL make Goodvoir and it WILL reference an anime

[tiny compass]

Which one?

[brisk vessel]

You'll see

[crude garden]

Slime Isekai probably? Or monster musume

[tiny compass]

Probably not slime isekai since thats more like a ditto 😅

[crude garden]

Probably monster musume then

[lusty oxide]

Sup chat? shiny sound

[brisk vessel]

GUNK SHOT GO

[lusty oxide]

Whyyy

I mean you missed but why

[gentle ferry]

Time for the ritual

[gentle ferry]

The ritual is complete

[brisk vessel]

Sylveon fans when I show them an actually good fairy type like Mawile

[sturdy breach]

🙂

[timber bluff]

Hello

I have come to discuss things (and goomy)

[sturdy breach]

yes 🙂

[lusty oxide]

Im gonna have to grab some TM’s cos I don’t feel safe here

[timber bluff]

Goomy moment

[sturdy breach]

Certified Goodra enthousiast 🙂

[lusty oxide]

Goodra is cool one of the few dragon types I don’t want to moonblast

[sturdy breach]

And probably the only one that can take one haha 🙂

[timber bluff]

I will be very happy if the goomy line makes it in.

[lusty oxide]

Anyway I’m off to grab some TM’s I’ll be back in a bit

[brisk vessel]

He could probably shrug it off anyway

150 spdef moment
(Also hisuian gains steel type)

[sturdy breach]

Now we need a friend shaped pseudo for gen10 🙂

[brisk vessel]

🔥

[surreal chasm]

Very quick doodle but uhhh yeah it's neat

[brisk vessel]

Now add it to the poster

[latent rampart]

hello how are the things going

[surreal chasm]

I'd have to make two more so it's even

[rough hound]

#1145126045389947040

Sorry for the wait, i had to drive somewhere. But thats the thread, and i got the #is-my-sprite-ready seal of approval

[brisk vessel]

Reverse ? Idk

[surreal chasm]

Palossand

[brisk vessel]

If it has to be new mons then do bacon bird

[timber bluff]

Well.

[latent rampart]

i just hope maractus or leavanny get in the game

[latent rampart]

palossand gaming

[cobalt nebula]

Registeel ruins

[sturdy breach]

It feels odd, it seems like over time I've seen more and more Goodra/Goomy supporters. I like it 😄

[gentle ferry]

Honestly at this point I have no idea if Gastrodon even has a shot, we have dedicated supporters but it’ll mostly be up to the public and was likely mostly decided early on.

Just hoping I guess

[rough hound]

I was asking yesterday, but i want the opinions of the morning crowd as well. What head should i fuse onto dragalge?

[sturdy breach]

morning crowd? It's 15:53 here now 😄

[rough hound]

10am over here lol

[cobalt nebula]

Kingdra

[gentle ferry]

Gastrodon maybe, reverse this dude lol

[cobalt nebula]

I think kingdra could be cool.

[sturdy breach]

I would wanna see either Froslass or Salazzle

[rough hound]

Already exists

[sturdy breach]

Outside of the obvious answer 😄

[brisk vessel]

Where is my Eternagalge

[sturdy breach]

The void 🙂

[brisk vessel]

Where is my Dragaltus

[cobalt nebula]

Dratini

[surreal chasm]

Omg yes

[rough hound]

Alright, the votes so far have been

Eternatus
Lanturn
Froslass
Salazzle
Gastrodon
Dratini
And Goodra

[sterile spoke]

What votes? 😮

[short garden]

eternatus gen 8

[rough hound]

What i should fuse next for propoganda lol

[timber bluff]

Goodra

[sterile spoke]

If Gen VIII was an option and people voted for Eternatus, I'd find out where each one of them lived and smack them on the head.

[sturdy breach]

I didn't want to give my obvious answer for once, but yes also Goodra 😄

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-he-agree-nodding-pokemon-legends-arceus-gif-24844405

[gentle ferry]

Btw radiant did you catch Gastrodon/Leafeon?

[rough hound]

Alright, goodra is the only one to get more than one vote so far. But idk how imma fuse the chubby goo dragon onto the deep sea seaweed seahorse lmao, its gonna be a trial, but itll probably be cool

[short garden]

vote goodra

for dragalge fusion

[cobalt nebula]

https://assetsio.reedpopcdn.com/pokemon_crown_tundra_regirock_location_solution_4.jpg?width=1200&height=1200&fit=bounds&quality=70&format=jpg&auto=webp

[short garden]

lemme be real, the regis are too similar for 3 slots

[surreal chasm]

Imma draw Regigigas/Palossand real quick

[cobalt nebula]

U wot m8

[brisk vessel]

If I could vote the Regis as standalone and not a trio I would pick Regice

[cobalt nebula]

https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/fetch/c_fill,g_auto,f_auto,h_720,w_1280/https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FsbvBQ2v%2FRegigigas-Door.jpg

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-aggron-aron-rock-smash-cute-gif-25591973

[brisk vessel]

Because we need more Ice and I wanna make Ramiel from Neon Genesis Evangelion

[rough hound]

just use glalie

[brisk vessel]

Not polygonal enough

[rough hound]

anything can be polygons if youre not a coward

[white meadow]

cryogonal 👍

[short garden]

glalie porygon

[brisk vessel]

True

[brisk vessel]

Ok but Ramiel doesn't have a mouth so

Anyways shout-outs to Regice for being the 2nd best Ice Type Regi

[rough hound]

imma be completely honest, regice is holding the regis back

[white meadow]

registeel is being held back by the other two for me

[brisk vessel]

Regice is the one Being held back for me

[rough hound]

dont sleep on regirock, i like the build on it and the shoulder pauldron things

[sturdy breach]

Regirock holds everyone back that's for sure 🙂

[cobalt nebula]

Bruh

[sturdy breach]

Then again, I'm not the best source of pro-regi information of any kind 😄

[cobalt nebula]

It’s just the fact that back to back different people so that a different Regi was holding it back

[timber bluff]

I like all of the Regis, not strongly, but I still like them.

[cobalt nebula]

For something that people say is is the same thing, they sure have some wholly separate opinions

[sturdy breach]

For me it's the difference between a 1 and a 2 on a scale of 10, sooooo I'll withdraw from the Regis conversation 😄

[brisk vessel]

I mean I don't mind the Regis I do like them
Its just 3 slots is a lot for not much difference between them (body wise)

[white meadow]

they are not the same to each other, just regigigas already fills the roles they could have

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/regirock-gif-18340779

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-legends-arceus-pokemon-spheal-they-see-me-rollin-gif-24795367

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1141791764622082138/tumblr_nk6kknZXbv1un95hzo1_r10_540.gif

[cobalt nebula]

Each offers something Regigigas alone does not have.

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-croagunk-king-throne-gif-16367260035413576996

https://tenor.com/view/croagunk-pokemon-run-running-gif-16717863

[brisk vessel]

As a head sure

[lusty oxide]

Im back again!

[brisk vessel]

SLUDGE WAVE GO

[lusty oxide]

Counterpoint I got the TM for psychic

So I use psychic

[brisk vessel]

Counter counterpoint

Alolan Muk

[lusty oxide]

Bruh…

[white meadow]

also

[lusty oxide]

Counterpoint mystical fire

[white meadow]

countercounterpoint gunfire

[brisk vessel]

Truly

[lusty oxide]

Damn didn’t know corpses could shoot guns

[brisk vessel]

They're ghost type duh

[lusty oxide]

Good thing I set up calm mind reflect and light screen on my way back

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-it-on-breaking-glass-glass-brick-gif-15912650

[brisk vessel]

Brick break is resisted use Psychic Fangs instead

[prisma urchin]

How many slots are left now?

[sturdy breach]

14

[proper schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-maractus-hide-and-seek-you-rang-gif-8323415973605464850

[prisma urchin]

Hmm… if I had to fill them then Id want The Goodra Line, Spheal Line, Palossand Line, Croagunk Line, The Regi Trio, and I guess a non evolving pokemon in the final slot. Or skip the regi line and add in the remaining gastrodon line and maybe another fossil mon or two

[sturdy breach]

Juuuust gonna sneak this in here again 🙂

[prisma urchin]

Ah theres so many good ones I forgot about

[cobalt nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1144118772651790467/1144118772903452762/429.353.png

Found this in Spriteworks.

[neat hemlock]

Regibloon

[lusty oxide]

This is the lead bloon in bt6

[rough hound]

i feel like this should get more attention, whether youre voting for em or not. a first stage mon did more damage with a single poison jab than all 3 of those final stage starters (they all needed multiple shots to destroy a blast)

not to mention annihalating a shot from god without breaking a sweat

[cobalt nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1144176751572946974/1144295785203241021/429.314.png

[prisma urchin]

Tbh Id be happy with anything, its crazy how much each pokemon adds to the game

[cobalt nebula]

Also found this.

[rough hound]

tell me what yungoos adds to the game /lh

[white meadow]

he is simply overlevelled, that's why he kept attacking brock 👍

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-fired-donald-trump-the-apprentice-point-gif-8557097

[prisma urchin]

Oh yeah not all options are created equal

[rough hound]

didnt he mostly attack brock when he was flirting? he's simply drinking that respect women juice

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-fomantis-napping-gif-27484316

[fast ruin]

5 + 5 reasons to vote for Xerneas/Yveltal

1. Only fairy type legendary available (no the tapus don't count)

2. Geomancy for everyone!

3. Interesting supportive ability

4. Amazing fusion potential as both head and body

5. It's a rainbow deer, what else do you want

6. Cool Death Bird (finally another dark type)

7. O B L I V I O N W I N G

8. Also an interesting supportive ability
   4: Turn everything into the harbinger of death

9. Can also be an emergency breakfast

[rough hound]

btw, we know that a poison jab from croagunk can destroy a full power blast from the god of time. but you know what he hit with the same move and didnt destroy?

[final forge]

Brocks organs (probably)

[rough hound]

yes, but specifically one. BROCKS ASS

BROCKS ASS IS CANONICALLY MORE POWERFUL THAN A BLAST FROM DIALGA

[fast ruin]

You could say it's

Rock solid.

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-brock-takeshi-croagunk-guregguru-gif-27599239

NO DAMAGE AT ALL

[hushed mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1143923356232597624/hooper_propaganda_1.png

[surreal chasm]

now I need to make two more head fusions 🤔

[sturdy breach]

Goo 🙂