pif-hoenn-discussion

[humble pasture]

Vote for Lurantis

[lone dome]

Yes please!

[humble pasture]

Hi

[lone dome]

Lurantis is my favorite mon, the moment it was first revealed it immediately became my #1 favorite.

[humble pasture]

It is my second favorite behind Bellibolt

[lone dome]

Bellibolt is cute

[rocky condor]

nah, giratina

[humble pasture]

I agree, and so is fomantis

[rocky condor]

same thing with chatot tbh. Cute as fuck

[lone dome]

[rocky condor]

duality

fernie

[humble pasture]

I am just saying that it is too niche and weak

[stark wolf]

tbh votes doesn't matter anymore, just because of the sheer amount of people that already voted and will never change their vote, especially with the everyone ping in a 300k+ server (this one).

you would need the influence of a big youtuber or another big community or something to be able to actually change the position of pokemons in the vote results 😅

[humble pasture]

Yes?

[white meadow]

Maybe🤔

[rocky condor]

There are so many music note fusion ideas that could be used. And outside of that, the vibrant colors on them mesh together and allow for a lot of creative fusion ideas. Not to mention the pmd fusion ideas that could come from it. To top it all off, they're not bruxish

[humble pasture]

But they sure ain't no lurantis

[rocky condor]

Chief, imma be real with ya here. I genuinely don't care what pokemon gets in so long as chatot gets in. I somehow gaslit myself into having chatot as my favorite pokemon outside of pmd. Idek how i did that but i did.

[humble pasture]

Ok

[rocky condor]

Give my my bird, or don't fucking show up

[humble pasture]

There are three spots left

[rocky condor]

says who?

imma need a source chief

[humble pasture]

Before tyrunt and tyrantrum were announced for the game, they said that there were five spots left for Pokémon joining the game
Tyrunt and tyrantrum makes two, so there are three spots left

[rocky condor]

fuck

VOTE CHATOT PLEASE :(

[stark wolf]

idk where you saw that but that's not how it works

[humble pasture]

?

[rocky condor]

how tf did i fall for it hook line and sinker

[humble pasture]

???

[humble pasture]

??????????

[lone dome]

3 slots have been taken there's 17 open slots left.

[humble pasture]

Oh

[rocky condor]

i fell for the misinfo hook line and sinker. How the fuck did that happen 💀

I knew something felt off too but i was too busy panicking

[iron quartz]

And theres 17 spots elft

[humble pasture]

Why is Lurantis not there?

[iron quartz]

once the contest is over
they will announce another pokemon who got in the top 20

[cinder oasis]

Where the hell did you obtain this information?

[humble pasture]

I don't know

[rocky condor]

"my source is that i made it the fuck up"

[humble pasture]

I don't remember
I don't think it was from a trusted source

[cinder oasis]

reddit

[lethal roost]

there are 20 slots total, and Scolipede line doesn't count.

we got Sableye and Tyrunt/Tyrantrum. 17 more to go.

whoever told you we had only 2-3 slots left is not a trusted source but actually a liar

[humble pasture]

Who do you think is the most likely mon to get in next?

[iron quartz]

bro got bamboozled

[iron quartz]

GOLISOPOD

[cinder oasis]

No clue, I have a couple of ideas for those in the top twenty but not the next one

[lethal roost]

my "trusted source" is the actual announcement for reference 👍

[stark wolf]

"or so"

[humble pasture]

We need more Gen 7 Pokémon

[rocky condor]

Wait i thought they meant that all the choices made in the announcements were staff choices, and not actually counted for the 20 choices.

[iron quartz]

Kuray
dont.

[lethal roost]

lycanroc

[cinder oasis]

Bruh

[humble pasture]

Like LURANTIS

[lethal roost]

no, the only staff pick that doesn't count was Scolipede. Sableye, Tyrunt, and Tyrantrum were our picks

[stark wolf]

don't what ?

[rocky condor]

please excuse me im very dumb and tired

[cinder oasis]

Abomasnow

[lone dome]

They specify whether they take a slot or not

[humble pasture]

We are talking about generation 7

[rocky condor]

chatot

[cinder oasis]

And? Doesn’t matter, Abomasnow

[lethal roost]

in seriousness if a gen 7 mon gets in its probably either Golisopod or Lycanroc

however we all know that the real answer is MINIOR BAYBEE LETS GO WOOOOOOOOO

[humble pasture]

How about no?

[rocky condor]

it's definitely gonna be golisopod let's be real. They're badass and ive only seen propaganda of them. None of lycanroc.

[lethal roost]

i know im just coping

[lone dome]

I've seen Lycanroc propaganda

[lethal roost]

nah there's someone who pretty regularly posts lycanroc and another who makes new fusions for them and posts them here. lycanroc aplenty. you must be missing them

[humble pasture]

I was going to say cry about it, but I realized that is rude

[lethal roost]

probably a timezone issue ig

[rocky condor]

Ah. Any chatot propaganda? Or am i literally the only one spearheading it 💀

[humble pasture]

You are alone

[cinder oasis]

The only one

[stark wolf]

doesn't matter tbh, especially that late in.
though maybe it made it in, maybe not

[lethal roost]

i mean lurantis isn't that low on my tierlist you don't have to be so mean

[cinder oasis]

Probably is

[cinder oasis]

Where’s Abomasnow in the three section?

[humble pasture]

Sorry for being a little rude

[rocky condor]

Yo can someone help me in my chatot spearhead? I want this bird in so bad 😭

[cinder oasis]

It’s in the 5th tier dawg what do you mean “it isn’t that low”. 😭

[lethal roost]

this is literally the only chatot anything posted by someone that isn't you #pif-hoenn-discussion message

[rocky condor]

I've fucking had it with you.

[lethal roost]

thats not necessarily a low tier so much as "i have no positive or negative opinions. at least i won't mald if it gets in"

[stark wolf]

if you reverse the vote results, it would be in the top 20

[rocky condor]

Hey, I'll take a custom fusion mate

[humble pasture]

I have limber

[cinder oasis]

Doesn’t matter to me anyways

[lethal roost]

i mean, separating my "i really want this" and "i kinda want this" and "i'd want this if we had more slots but there are issues" tiers probably didn't help

[rocky condor]

I was gonna say "nah he's taking you to the paralyzed timeline in explorers of sky" but him just fucking paralyzing you from the waist down out of rage is way funnier

[cinder oasis]

I just don’t want the shitters like eelektross, Stakataka and a few more. (My opinion)

[humble pasture]

We need to stop beefing

[lethal roost]

eh, fair opinion, agree to disagree 👍

[cinder oasis]

Woah there buddy, what if he’s vegan, you can’t say beefing without knowing

[rocky condor]

no im not targeting that message at you, im speaking in general. The IMAGE was tho. Paralyze time

[humble pasture]

Have you heard of something called phrasing?

[cinder oasis]

No?

[stark wolf]

if the votes are fair, bruxish should be the only added pokemon, with sableye

[humble pasture]

Beef can mean cow meat or an argument.

[lethal roost]

if the votes are fair then only everything i want will get in because i have the best opinions and i'm sure everyone has the same

we can look forward to sigilyph as the next pick

[humble pasture]

In this case it is the latter. Look at context clues

[grim gyro]

When realistically are we expecting the picks to be finalized?

[cinder oasis]

Nah

[rocky condor]

Funny joke but im genuinely the exact opposite of vegan. I fucking love meat.

[humble pasture]

Same same

[lethal roost]

unsure

[humble pasture]

Sushi and medium rare steak is delicious

[grim gyro]

I’d imagine sometime soon

[cinder oasis]

2 weeks prob

[grim gyro]

All im hoping for is vanillite line

[rocky condor]

not a fan of sushi but yes to steak. Specifically ribeyes. When the amount of fat and meat is just right, plus the melted butter on top...oh my fucking god it's so good

[lethal roost]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message this is all im seeing so take that ig

[grim gyro]

Thats all i need

[stark wolf]

it's not a matter of finalizing picks, it's a matter of announcing 'em

[cinder oasis]

Damn, that’s unfortunate

[grim gyro]

You did not

[cinder oasis]

Did what

[humble pasture]

I like my big juicy pieces of steak

[rocky condor]

fuck now i'm hungry for ribeye but it's 1 in the morning
wait oh god it's one in the morning

[cinder oasis]

Pause

[lone dome]

Steak

[rocky condor]

Ex-fucking-scuse me? 🤨

[cinder oasis]

What have I proceeded to do?

[lone dome]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-sterling-archer-hey-phrasing-phrasing-gif-4987863

[grim gyro]

You gotta admit le vanilla icecream is the best

[rocky condor]

Nah he knew what he was doing. Just like half the spriters here know what they're doing with lopunny fusions i mean what who said that?

[humble pasture]

Now, nobody understands context nowadays.
I was talking about the food.

[rocky condor]

I know. That's...the joke. You say that, and then everyone thing you said something REALLY sus

[cinder oasis]

The pokemon or actual vanilla

[lethal roost]

tbf I saw the (edited) next to it and everyone's reactions and just assumed it got edited over

[cinder oasis]

Have you heard about this underground terminology called sarcasm? It’s not very common

[humble pasture]

I honestly don't understand Gen Z humor, even if I am in Gen Z myself.

[rocky condor]

vanilla is good on like, an ice-cream sandwich. It works as a complement to other snacks. Vanilla on its own is bland, sorry

[cinder oasis]

Damn, hope you can recover quickly

[grim gyro]

The pokemon

[humble pasture]

Wat

[cinder oasis]

True

[lethal roost]

id want vanilluxe if vanillish wasn't way too similar to it

as it stands if I want some delicious dessertmons I'm taking Slurpuff any day

[cinder oasis]

It’s ok, I’d rather have Abomasnow though

[lone dome]

Why not Froslass?

[outer matrix]

The smell of vanilla is also nice

But also shaved ice with vanilla favor is good

[cinder oasis]

Wdym

[grim gyro]

But ice type pokemon are the best

[lethal roost]

true

[rocky condor]

The exact opposite problem is true with chocolate. It's great on its own, but when you add chocolate on chocolate, it gets too much. I tried a triple chocolate cake yesterday and i almost threw up. And i like chocolate like a motherfucker.

[lone dome]

For Ice Types

[humble pasture]

I love triple chocolate cake with chocolate ganache and chocolate ice cream and chocolate sprinkles

[cinder oasis]

They’re mostly terrible but yeah they have some cool designs

[lethal roost]

oh god yeah i feel that 😔

[grim gyro]

Rip my favorite type

[cinder oasis]

I think chocolates fine but it’s not my favourite

[rocky condor]

chocolate needs something to contrast it. And vanilla needs something to compliment it. Literally the exact same problem but on opposite sides.

[lethal roost]

the only 2 Ice-types I don't want are Beartic and Regice atm

[humble pasture]

Something that goes well with chocolate is raspberry

[rocky condor]

https://tenor.com/view/regice-knc-pokemon-fuck-you-gif-22326615

[cinder oasis]

What’s wrong with beartic brodie

[lethal roost]

we have a bear

[rocky condor]

We have multiple bird pokemon yet you don't see me complaining about chatot support from not me

[grim gyro]

NO REGICE??

[cinder oasis]

Well personally, I dislike him

[humble pasture]

ÜN ÜN ÜN

[lethal roost]

im not voting for the regis together. the only fusions i've seen from them that I liked were Registeel Head and that's not really an excuse to bring the others

[humble pasture]

ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN ÜN

[rocky condor]

The regis are cool, but i mainly only voted for them because of a possible dead regi trio fusion from pokemon clover, and to complete the regi family

It didn't make sense for regigigas to be on his own

[lethal roost]

if funny cries were all it took i'd spam Guzzlord and Kricketune propaganda

[rocky condor]

fuck, uh...how do you type out chatot's cry

[outer matrix]

DELELELELE WOOOOP

[cinder oasis]

“Insert audio here”

[lethal roost]

bitcrushed 8 year old screaming "DAMN" into the mic like he's the coolest kid ever?

[rocky condor]

"Go chatot!"

"I hate ni-

[lone dome]

[cinder oasis]

That’s why they removed that feature sadly

[rocky condor]

I know and it still sucks. We can't have fun anymore :(

[grim gyro]

Chatot be like DELELELELELE woooOOOOP

[humble pasture]

When you realize that Guzzlord from Pokémon and Yelmut from My Singing Monsters sound similar:

[cinder oasis]

Fun fun fun fun fun!

[rocky condor]

Ok technically that works since they can mimic other cries

you get a pass

[lethal roost]

i don't really see the whole "regigigas should have his kids" argument. i feel like that's actually a detriment to both regigigas and the others. i think their bodies are too similar to each other and gigas as a whole

[humble pasture]

The Regis: we put the ÜN in fun

[grim gyro]

Yep

[cinder oasis]

Bommmm

[humble pasture]

Doo

[grim gyro]

Real and true

[cinder oasis]

La la la la la

[humble pasture]

Wawawawawow

[grim gyro]

Pikachu cry is just pikachu nowadays

[cinder oasis]

Dee Dee Dee Dee Dee

[humble pasture]

beetboxing sounds

[cinder oasis]

Ooga booga, ooga booga

[lethal roost]

i thought they changed pikachu back in BDSP

[sharp sphinx]

beat*

[rocky condor]

Ok, imagine it like this. Imagine zygarde gets in, but not xerneas and yveltal. Wouldn't that be weird? The 3rd bonus legendary, not even used for anything outside of the anime and us/um gets in, but the two creatures of life and death who were the main box cover legendaries of x and y don't.

It's like having rayquaza, without kyogre and groudon

[grim gyro]

Did they?

[sharp sphinx]

nah that'd be fine, would prefer reverse though

[humble pasture]

Laaa laa laa laa Laaaaaa laaa

[lethal roost]

i don't really care? at most it makes Zygarde's main ability useless but that's it

[grim gyro]

I kinda hated bdsp so i stopped playin it

[rocky condor]

I don't really either. It'd just feel weird

[lethal roost]

checked it on bulbapedia, it got changed back in L:A

[cinder oasis]

I honestly never understood that argument, maybe just me but I don’t care if only one part of a trio gets in.

[grim gyro]

Ahh nice

[humble pasture]

Generation 7

[cinder oasis]

Bdsp was trash, PL:A was pretty decent just rushed tbh and Violet is ok

[rocky condor]

Honestly for the better tbf. I was so tired of hearing the anime's cry when everyone else has the same stock sounds

[lethal roost]

I do wish L:A had gotten DLC, would've been sick

[grim gyro]

At least they never miss on the soundtrack for pokemon games, minus bdsp but legends arceus made up for it

[sturdy breach]

Mornin

[iron quartz]

What would it be tho

[alpine rune]

cool beans

[lone dome]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-fomantis-napping-gif-27484316

[lethal roost]

idk i just think it should've been More since SwSh and SV were just disappointing for me

its like "why do the games I don't like get DLC and the one I like don't"
(i know its self-centered)

[rocky condor]

It'd never happen but possible beta arceus quest? Unlock arceus's true form and power. Always liked the idea of arceus's true form being a formless god

[lethal roost]

it'd never happen because beta arceus isn't really a thing. that sprite is just an unshaded rough sketch.

(i think he's scrunkly too 🥰)

[rocky condor]

Honestly yeah. But people really took that concept and fucking ran with it no looking back.

[iron quartz]

Cool but If LA had a DLC
I would like it to be where the time rifts or smth make the present ancestors meet their past ancestors (Wait just keep reading)
Accidentally,And your quest is to send them back to the present

[rocky condor]

And honestly i like it a lot more than what we have now

[rocky condor]

Fair enough.

[lethal roost]

i love my fog demon

[releases Diamond and Pearl]

where is my fog demon

[rocky condor]

Release arceus is the glorified angels churches use. (I should know, i rarely go to church with my grandma)

Beta arceus is the biblically accurate version

[lethal roost]

Beta Arceus is the feeble human mind attempting to comprehend the true form of God

also, whatever that thing Giratina was in the beta was because it sure as hell wasn't Giratina? banger

[rocky condor]

Beta arceus is just cthulu but god instead of satan.

[iron quartz]

It may sound weird but it is also cool (Also please let this be real so Emmet can meet Ingo one last time)

[rocky condor]

Honestly i like the release giratina better

Beta giratina feels like a gen 1 or 2 legendary

[lethal roost]

i mean im sure there was more to the sprite that just wasnt finished before they scrapped it

[iron quartz]

Pls gamefreak

[hushed mantle]

It looks like a deformed landorus therian

[rocky condor]

wow it really does

[lone dome]

Beta Giratina looks more like a Beta Landorus

[iron quartz]

GOOD GOD IT LOOKS UGLY AS HELL

[cinder oasis]

I understand it’s just like a beta design but goddayum the beta is so bad

[grim gyro]

Wtf is that 💀

[alpine rune]

bruh that aint giratina, thats naked raikou

[lone dome]

[grim gyro]

The almighty god of antimatter, modeled after squidward’s masterpiece painting

[iron quartz]

ITS UGLY AS HELL

[lone dome]

Bold and Brash

[rocky condor]

I love how beta arceus is universally viewed as having a goofy as fuck sprite, but genuine potential for a formless legendary pokemon made of gas, and then beta giratina is just hot dogshit

[grim gyro]

YEAH BOLD AND BRASH

[lethal roost]

it's not even Giratina, it's an entirely different pokemon. as far as I know people usually render its old name "Kimairan"

[rough hound]

I aint even gonna start with the propoganda rn, i just need to say this

So we know at this point that gastrodon has legs sometimes. Imagine how this mf would run

[lethal roost]

its legs extend and it rushes at you like a horror game creature

[lone dome]

This

[cinder oasis]

It wouldn’t

[rocky condor]

Don't even get me started on beta regigigas 💀

[iron quartz]

It looks fine

[lethal roost]

thats just a sketch

[sturdy breach]

This please 🙂

[rocky condor]

a funny one

[lone dome]

Beta Regigigas is a chad

[lethal roost]

here's one that i rarely see talked about

[cinder oasis]

That’s so much better Ngl

[lethal roost]

it feels like a basis for a Mega Yanmega tbh

[rocky condor]

Bro doesn't got slow start, man has leisurely beginning 💀

[lone dome]

I almost asked if this was a fusion

[rocky condor]

God this looks good.

and then beta garchomp looks cool too

[iron quartz]

The first form looks so cute

[sturdy breach]

Best thing about his is beta gible tho

[frozen oyster]

it looks like a grumpy desert rain frog lmao

[cinder oasis]

That could work as a regional form

[rocky condor]

i hate saying it but beta gible is indeed the skrunkly

[lethal roost]

also uhhh this fuckin dude. look at his shiny head
(yes hes different i swear)

[rocky condor]

acne 💀

[lone dome]

Beta Gabite is ok but doesn't add much as an evolution

[lethal roost]

they done put acne on our fuckin pokemons

[rocky condor]

oh fuck it's 1:36 in the morning. Im goin to sleep

[lethal roost]

theres also the snover line being... interesting

[iron quartz]

It looks interesting

[rocky condor]

Honestly...it's not bad. A bit rough but i like it

[lone dome]

They look like they came from Gen 3

[iron quartz]

@lethal roost they look like high

[lone dome]

Which isn't bad, just quirky

[lethal roost]

tbf the current games at the time were gen 3

[rocky condor]

Feels a lot more mean. Genuinely does feel like they were from gen 3 or 2 like brespawn said

[arctic sail]

Honestly smth about them reminds me of the Pokémon Ranger art style

[lethal roost]

also abomasnow's beard there is like a whole mane that goes down its back too

[rocky condor]

oh now why didn't they keep this aspect. I really like this

[lethal roost]

abomasnow is facing about that direction 🤔

[rough hound]

Not so hot take, they need to make the good betas into regional forms

[sturdy breach]

They sorta did with 1 of em

[lethal roost]

the only one I can think of is Gastrodon and that feels more like "We wanted this in RS, didn't happen, we'll put it in DP"

[sturdy breach]

In the beta Farfetched had an evo that kind of became the base for Sirfetched

[lethal roost]

absolutely not lol Madaamu is wildly different

i think it's more "gamefreak thought Farfetch'd should have an evolution" more than once

[rocky condor]

Someone needs to make a fangame with beta forms similar to deltas from pokemon insurgence, but bumped up a notch

[sturdy breach]

Concept wise, not design wise 😄

[rocky condor]

new beta pokemon with the release pokemon

Oh now imagine beta mega garchomp

[sturdy breach]

Of course they built out from it, kinda what all these beta sprites are tbh

[lethal roost]

yeah but if "concept" was enough then you could say anything from old gens is just referenced in new games

"there was supposed to be a balloon pokemon in gen 1, and then there actually was a balloon in gen 4. therefore drifloon's always been planned!!!" is a take I have seriously heard

with no irony

[rocky condor]

drifloon: stealing kids since gen 1

[lone dome]

I think the balloon mon just became Jigglypuff

[native nebula]

he look like he gonna ask to borrow money.

[lethal roost]

there are some pokemon I'd speculate about, like that eel thing from SW97 becoming Huntail, but it's very speculative

[sturdy breach]

Farfetched evo is a bit more concrete than that though, but I do get your point.

[rocky condor]

Ok so i found a mega beta garchomp design and it looks sick

[lethal roost]

there was an entire thing of people trying to rebuild the original 190 dex that was mentioned a long time ago, but I don't remember if Jigglypuff and the balloon coexisted

[rough hound]

Yknow, i actually did have a fangame concept once where i was gonna make a ton of fakemon and regional forms, that included beta mons and unused stuff.

I think ive still got the concepts stored somewhere

[lethal roost]

found the original Nerd Shit, it does look like Jigglypuff was made after the balloon mon

but the slot the balloon mon was in was just erased (became MISSINGNO.) rather than overwritten

[rough hound]

Bring back this little guy, i need it

[lethal roost]

true

i love feraligatr's line so it's a very difficult choice

[stark wolf]

looks like a deoxys/garchomp fusion

people could probably use it as a joke alt ngl

[frozen oyster]

Croconaw is very cute. Feraligatr loses the cuteness but its a solid cool starter.

[lethal roost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023521915702354011/1110023963477807224/OWOSvjkj.gif

no buts. all gen 2 starters are valid, even Dynabear and Aquaria

[rocky condor]

Ok now that missingno's been mentioned, can I just say? I REALLY wish they did something to integrate missingno into pokemon. It was such an iconic glitch that I wish got official representation. The waterfall glitch in sonic 2 made the ashura the hedgehog name to the fans, which led to scourge and surge in archie comics and idw respectively

[lethal roost]

they did in SV by having empty slots that were filled in the 1.1 update with Walking Wake/Iron Leaves but then people saw those raids on the old versions and ended up catching an Egg.

imagine putting up an error trap to ensure people wouldn't be able to see invalid raids couldnt be game freak

[sturdy breach]

Meganium might be simple, but it's one of my favourite starter designs out there

[native nebula]

Grovile gets cucked in this scene.

[lethal roost]

the virgin grovyle vs the chad meganium

[lone dome]

Poor Grovyle

[native nebula]

coping

[frail jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-meganium-pokemon-nurse-joy-gif-27432733

[rough hound]

The gen 2 starters are croagunk approved

[frail jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/croagunk-pokemon-run-running-gif-16717863

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-croagunk-king-throne-gif-16367260035413576996

[native nebula]

I voted for him

Used him on my team in gen 4.

[rough hound]

Based

[lethal roost]

didn't get him in my mono-poison nuzlocke (was in Red) but maybe in my mono-fighting I'll get to use him

[rough hound]

Btw, for anyone who may not have seen, ive made custom bases for the toxi line

Theres also this guy, who was a happy accident

[lethal roost]

very cool sprite 👍

[frail jolt]

he is good boy

[rough hound]

Torterra but crab

[frail jolt]

yep

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[native nebula]

Para clone

[sturdy breach]

Once again, this please 🙂

[slate gazelle]

Good head, good body, why wouldn’t you vote for these adorable bois?

[bold flax]

What makes a good vote?

1: The pokemon takes up few slots. Sure; you can vote the Unova starters for Contrary Serperior. You're wasteing 8 other slots doing that however. Don't vote starters. Please. More evo lines means more variety.

2: The pokemon brings something interesting. This mostly applies to Alola pokemon to be fair. Things like Dhelmise's Steelworker; Aquaranid's Water Bubble... also moves.

3: The pokemon covers design space not yet covered by other pokemon in IF. TBH I think Tyrantrum is a waste because we have Tyranitar already who's a rock-dino but...

Examples of good votes:
Dhelmise - Seaweed possession; Steelworker ability; Anchor Shot... all for 1 slot! Dhelmise might actually be the single best value vote possible.

Araqranid - Water Bubble; which leads to all sort of design options as well as an interesting ability with defensive and offensive use. Remember Araqranid is a Bug-type too; so you can use Water Bubble to counter the fire weakness in some fusions as well!

Examples of bad votes:

Starters - We already have 4 sets of Fire/Water/Grass with the same main abilities and similar BST's. We don't need to waste 9 slots on more.

Pokemon that bring nothing - The likes of; say; Zigzagoon basically add nothing to IF in design [Furrett already has Linoone's design space] or gameplay.

Redundant Pokemon - Look; I know you might stan certain pokemon. But there's just some pokemon who are never going to actually be used and would just be a waste of dex space. Why would anyone use Altaria in IF with the other Dragon/Flying options avaliable?

[slate gazelle]

Clouds

[white meadow]

me when pinned messages

[slate gazelle]

Honestly
9/10 list

[sturdy breach]

Gives an example of Altaria being bad while it ticks off all 3 points for good votes?

[white meadow]

this copypasta is so outdated because starters aren't even in the vote anymore

[bold flax]

It ticks off maybe 1. It brings absolutely nothing unique and wastes 2 slots on a mon who brings absolutely nothing unique and is 100% outclassed

[sturdy breach]

Why would anyone use Altaria in IF? Cause of the potential for the fusions obviously

[sinful sky]

Fluffy clouds

[bold flax]

wait when did that happen? Also it's not a copypasta...

[sturdy breach]

Not even a week after the voting started I think?

[rough hound]

You like dhelmise, instant L

[white meadow]

literally 2 days after

[bold flax]

I'm saying it brings a lot of cool stuff for fusing

[sturdy breach]

Not to mention Altaria comes with a pretty good movepool

[sinful sky]

Altaria gives us cloud Pokemon, which is marvelous

[rough hound]

Its head fusions are mid at best, and i doubt it could get over 5 body fusions total (and thats being generous)

If you want grass/ghost, pick trevenant, and if you want deep sea seaweed, dragalge is right there with both head and body potential

[bold flax]

I think Dragonite gets like 90% of what Altaria gets [besides the Voice moves] but also gets it's own unique stuff

[sturdy breach]

And lets be fair, in terms of gameplay 3/4 of all pokemon are redundant if you go off of strengths

[bold flax]

And if you want Steelworker in the game... well... uh...

[rough hound]

Just fuse with a steel type and get stab damage, its the same thing.

[bold flax]

triple stab

[white meadow]

you mean double right?

[sinful sky]

Dhelmise could give us some cool Bioshock-style designs, I have to admit

[clever atlas]

But stab steelworker can be a thing

[sturdy breach]

I do feel Dhelmise head fusions will be great, body fusions are indeed limited to pokemon that have very different body attributes (Magcargo/Goodra etc)

[bold flax]

No I mean having 3 stabs

[rough hound]

Im the local anchor hater

[sturdy breach]

I'm the local Regis hater 🙂

[bold flax]

agreed Regis stay out

[white meadow]

im the furfrou hater

[sturdy breach]

Furfrou head fusions would go hard. Body, not so much

[rough hound]

Also, considering dragalges anime lore its also a steelworker. It just doesnt have the ability lol

[sinful sky]

Only concern I really have with Dhelmise is that it could end up with the Klinklang problem, where a bunch of fusions just flat-out ignore the original Pokemon in favor of being generic "Rusted Deep-Sea" aesthetic

[rough hound]

Yep, pretty much. And honestly, it only takes a little creativity to turn water/steel or poison/steel into rust and corrosion

[sinful sky]

I can't really take umbrage with Dhelmise tho since my top pick is Relicanth lol

[sturdy breach]

Speaking of Corrosion, get Salazzle in as well! 🙂

[bold flax]

Head fusions are seaweed-possessed things;' body fusions get anchors

[rough hound]

I still find it hilarious that because IF doesnt code in gender evos, if it does get in then 87.5% of salazzles will be dudes

[sturdy breach]

Considering what I've seen so far, Dhelmise head fusions go the way of rusted steel with seaweed

[rough hound]

Explain how to fuse it with rummages around in a hat and pulls out a name venusaur

[bold flax]

change the flower to seaweed mass sprouting from it's back. Maybe some metal scraps like armour

maybe even make the seaweed go over it's head hippy style and give it "woah" eyes if you wanna be funny [it's possessed after all]

[rough hound]

Doesnt sound like venusaur then. The main attraction is the flower on its back

[sturdy breach]

From the top of my head I would say use rusty chains with anchors instead of vines

[sinful sky]

Venusaur is one of the easiest ones for that fusion imo - A trickier choice would be something like Drowzee

[bold flax]

you're replaceing the flower with another plant what

[rough hound]

That made me think tho, corsola or dragalge could put an anenome on venusaurs back...

[bold flax]

Seaweed Hula skirt; make it an Hawaii reference; Dhelmise is Alolan after all

also I can totally see Drowsee; which hypotises while swaying it's arms, danceing a hypnotic dance

[rough hound]

How about this little lad i sprited earlier, how do you fuse elegance with an anchor?

[bold flax]

I mean why would Laurantis make it in. And obviously you change the blades if you're fusing it with the anchor [But Dhelmise is the seaweed]

[sinful sky]

I always felt like Dhelmise's head was the wheel - Doesn't it blink? Or am I mistaken

[sturdy breach]

It possesses the anchor, rudder, and a compass, this compass is it's 'eye'. It probably closes and opens the compass to simulate an eye

[rough hound]

Youre gonna have to reword that bc it made absolutely no sense

[sinful sky]

Gotcha, that makes sense!

[sturdy breach]

I would much rather have Lurantis make it in though. Even ticks off your 'requirements' for a good vote

[bold flax]

Except it dosen't. It's one of the weakest grass-types to exist, it's design is covered by stuff like Scyther; and Contrary is already in the game via Shuckle

[white meadow]

too bad shuckle fusions suck statistically

[bold flax]

and if you're voting it for Contrary; Inkay is right there and you don't need to HA hunt for that

[white meadow]

eh im picking both just for assurance

[sturdy breach]

Lurantis is sure as hell not one of the weakest, it's slow but not weak

Does Shuckle even learn a move to benefit from Contrary?

[rough hound]

I honestly couldnt care less about viability, this game is about creativity and fun. and lurantis is probaby the most fun mon ive had the pleasure of spriting for this vote (even though i adore my big 3)

[bold flax]

you fuse Shuckle with the things that can <.<

[sturdy breach]

On the other hand Lurantis can have both Superpower and Leaf Storm

[rough hound]

Honestly, one of my favorite fusions in the dragicroadon propoganda is this one

[white meadow]

while also getting a questionable typing and shit offensive stats

[sturdy breach]

ThoughI'm not sure how available Superpower will be cause it's a tutor move

[rough hound]

Lurantis has a gorgeous palette, and this is coming from an emo mf who hates pink

[sturdy breach]

It differs enough from Scyther to get included for design purposes. Much like Goodra differs enough from Dragonite

[rough hound]

I truly dont understand how people can come into this server and only talk about viability when theyre surrounded by all this creativity and art

Legitimately one of my favorite creatures on earth tho. When i was tryna make a region i wanted one of my legendaries to be based off the spiny flower mantis

[slate gazelle]

I can see why
Absolutely gorgeous creature

[marsh lily]

I have yet to see a mantis pokémon that isn't bipedal.

[rough hound]

These ones specifically. I mean look at them! They have a crown!

[sturdy breach]

I want this to be a pokemon

[rough hound]

Ah the shoebill, great bird

[sturdy breach]

Brutal bird as well

[fresh owl]

Great list.

[sturdy breach]

That seemingly doesn't tolerate other animals, but somehow tolerates humans

[fresh owl]

SaLADdle lol.

So wait, can Pokemon just evolve regardless of gender req in IF?

[rough hound]

Due to the simplified nature of pokemon design, 6 limbs pronably wasnt really an option if they wanted to fit other cool details. And since mantis hands are what make them a mantis, they couldnt be quadripeds

[sturdy breach]

But they do keep gender ratios, which means the only male Salazzles are domestic ones. All the wild ones would be female

[fresh owl]

Vespiquen be a King Bee lol

[white meadow]

which actually would make sense since males don't evolve specifically because they starve

[marsh lily]

holy crap

He's GOING.

[fresh owl]

Does this mean male Salazzle just has a regular harem?

[sturdy breach]

I don't think they do, cause they don't exist in the wild. Unless you create a harem for it 🙂

[rough hound]

Huh, they got the color of the arms wrong on the card i used. Theyre green on there

[sturdy breach]

THey used the shiny colour on just the hands? 😄

[fresh owl]

I mean it emits pheromones, but lord knows if the effect even changes with gender. Male Salazzle could be like a king with his loyal slaves lol.

(Although that's basically what Regular Salazzle is..)

[sturdy breach]

I mean, the female Salazzle that you own doesn't have a harem (anymore) either 🙂

[rough hound]

Not the hands, the arms. Look

I aint complaining tho, looks better imo

[sturdy breach]

aaaahhhhh yeah I see

COULD be a shadow somehow, there's still a white spot there

[rough hound]

Thats lighting, its definitely green

Anyways, so much for going to bed at 3 lol. Its 4 now

[sturdy breach]

Go to sleep, damn 🙂

[rough hound]

Lol alright alright

[white meadow]

Yeah im working on it
But it stays the second stage our starter gets a better third

[native nebula]

You are in luck. I made it one.

🙂 Wanna see it?

[sturdy breach]

100% 🙂

[native nebula]

#fusions

[sturdy breach]

I like the fusion but I don't really see the Shoebill in it personally

[native nebula]

You responded fast. Or did you already see it or mistake...

[sturdy breach]

I think it brought me to a wrong fusion perhaps 😄

[native nebula]

click again

[native nebula]

#fusions message

[gray vigil]

how to install pokemon infinite fusion on mobile

[native nebula]

#gameplay-help

[native nebula]

#downloads

[sturdy breach]

Now I see it 🙂 (search in fusions on your name haha)

Really like it 🙂 Though my desire for an actual Shoebill pokemon (official) still stands 🙂

They always make me wonder what they will do with certain animals as well

Anyway, vote this.

But especially this

[native nebula]

snail

[sturdy breach]

Slug Dragon

[native nebula]

shellless snail

[sturdy breach]

Which makes it a slug haha 🙂

Basically Slugma evolves from a slug into a snail

[sturdy breach]

Goodra evolved (over time) from a snail into a slug yes

[native nebula]

Tiny shell? 🤨

[sturdy breach]

I'm not sure you can call it a shell, considering it's the same 'material' as the body

[white meadow]

if you peel the shell away the shape kinda remains

[sturdy breach]

On the Hisuian Goodra you can clearly see the difference in material

So the only differences between H-Goodra and Goodra are that is loses it's shell, and becomes more happy 🙂

And the drippings/goo changes colour

[native nebula]

How do you know it is less happy?

[sturdy breach]

H-Goodra's dex mentions it loathes solitude. I think a pokemon like Goodra thrives with humans around.

[native nebula]

Salty skin though

[sturdy breach]

I think it's just gooey/slippery 🙂

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[sturdy breach]

It’s very friendly toward people. If you grow close to it, Goodra will hug you with its sticky, slime-covered body. Don’t get mad.

Underneath its slimy skin is a thick layer of fat, and the combination of the two makes enemies’ attacks slide right off.

An amazingly friendly Pokémon, but if left to itself, loneliness overcomes it, and it oozes gooey tears.

[native nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/food-snail-mmm-tasty-delicious-gif-21470000

[sturdy breach]

The dex entry literally says: "Don't get mad" that's amazing

[native nebula]

Perfect

Making me like it more and more. Might become a goodra fan.

Still not diggin the design since it looks like fan art made by someone who makes... you know.

But I could warm to it.

[sturdy breach]

Day in the life of a trainer with a Goodra: shower 20 times a day 😄

[native nebula]

I do not have the same stuff on my skin normal humans do so I would be fine.

[sturdy breach]

On one hand I understand, on the other EVERY pokemon will get done dirty

[white meadow]

might as well just replace "will" with "did"

[sturdy breach]

Well, yeah. But also looking towards future releases 😄

[alpine rune]

is it shell or is it tail?

[sturdy breach]

on Goodra, it's a tail

H-Goodra has a visible distinction between it's shell and it's tail

Even on regular Sliggoo it's not a shell, the bump actually has a/it's brain in there

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-disgusted-yikes-huh-what-gif-17313939

[native nebula]

Okay now you are losing me.

[alpine rune]

thanks, how do I unlearn?

[sturdy breach]

Also Sliggoo has VERY bad eyesight 🙂

[native nebula]

Do you have a hammer?

[alpine rune]

be right back

[native nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-wensleydale-hammer-gif-20832217

Why can't Magcaro breed with Goodra.

[spring abyss]

Magoo

[native nebula]

They would make a silly couple.

[sturdy breach]

Goodra line isn't Amorphous (though Goomy might be)

Though I do wonder why Gardevoir is in the Amorphous egg group

The egg groups don't make sense to begin with

Arbok, Sandaconda, Scrafty, and Salazzle are in the Dragon egg group

[alpine rune]

Hello

[alpine rune]

i forgot what typing minior is

[sturdy breach]

Rock

[alpine rune]

mono rock?

[sturdy breach]

and flying

[alpine rune]

wait minior isnt actually that bad

[wintry imp]

Essentually one of the points I made - could you imagine it on a really bulky pokemon like Miltank or Blissey

[sterile spoke]

It's really fun to use. I had a Shell Smash one that I'd use on Showdown during the SM days. 🙂

[sturdy breach]

I'm mad H-Goodra doesn't get Shell Smash

[alpine rune]

Steel resists dragon, therefore he cant smash his own shell

[sturdy breach]

Would probably make it too powerful

[sturdy breach]

How does that work for magcargo though

[alpine rune]

banana

[sturdy breach]

Rock resists fire as well

[clever atlas]

I guess serpentine qualities means dragon

[sturdy breach]

Yet Serperior is not in the Dragon Egg group, weird to leave it out then

[clever atlas]

Snake and lizard mon often learn Dragon moves

[short garden]

yeah tbh egg groups dont really correlate

why tf is gardevoir line in amorphous

[sturdy breach]

Weezing is as well, which is odd

[clever atlas]

So it can breed with muk

[short garden]

oh also dont mind me being up very early. nightmare got me a few hours ago

[sturdy breach]

For me it's 11:10 rn, guessing you are near the US? 🙂

[short garden]

yes, it's about 5:10 AM around me

[sterile spoke]

Isn't that largely because of Legends? 😮

[sturdy breach]

Could be 😦 It would be really strong with it tbf

It's already plenty strong without it. Would love to use a shell smash Sap Sipper physical H-Goodra in doubles

[sterile spoke]

That too, I imagine. 😂

A Shell Smashing pseudo-legendary? Nah, I'm good. 😛

[sturdy breach]

On the defensive pseudo 🙂

Imagine having to blast through that 150 spDef 80 hp with special moves when it has Shell Smashed (with White Herb)

[rugged wedge]

no thnx

[white meadow]

wasting the herb with either intimidate or web 👍

[sturdy breach]

Luckily you won't see web that often in doubles

Cause most web users suuuuuuuuck

anyway

[kind forum]

i largely agree with these tbh, only a few i could happily leave

[opaque ether]

I do plan on making a more polished version of this, but it'll do for now.

[sturdy breach]

Oddly enough, I read this quite a lot. Yet I'm not very confident in any of these making it in that aren't already confirmed haha

[kind forum]

guess time will tell! 😄

[sturdy breach]

Also, you might know. There was some discourse regarding the 'slots' and if Sableye counted towards the rough estimate of 20 yesterday.

[kind forum]

I think it does, though moderators arent a part of picking which ones are in or not

[sturdy breach]

Pretty sure the 20 wasn't even a concrete number, but it was something tangible people grabbed unto

[kind forum]

so could be wrong!

20 is the number the frogman has given, but its possible theres wiggle room depending on popularity of certain mons as we approach that number, dont believe its set in stone

[sturdy breach]

As we saw with Scolipede 🙂

[kind forum]

precisely!

[sturdy breach]

Not that I really mind about Sableye, don't really have many 1 slots that could fill it's place on my 20panels anyway 😄

[kind forum]

spriters have gone nuts for it too - so many cool fusions to try out when it gets in

[sturdy breach]

I would really like to do a run with only fusions of a certain pokemon (can you guess haha). And there's so many cool fusions made even with pokemon that aren't in the game yet

Funny enough also a fusion for a pokemon that isn't in the game yet that has been placed as an alt under a different pokemon 🙂

[iron quartz]

Happy now?

[sturdy breach]

Yay Goodra made it on there twice 🙂

[iron quartz]

Wdym twice

[sturdy breach]

I see 2 Goodras

[kind forum]

top and bottom

[iron quartz]

Oh i see

[sturdy breach]

It deserves it though.

[clever atlas]

Was that lycanroc addition my doing?

[sturdy breach]

Also funny how there's 3 Necrozma's here, 1 tiny, 1 propaganda in favour of it, and 1 bashing it 🙂

[regal vault]

Zoroark

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[cerulean tundra]

fun fact! h-goodra's dex states it can also change the hardness of its shell!

we can assume it's also goop, but just... metal goop? maybe?

[sturdy breach]

I do wonder what made H-Goodra change over time. Or were those Goodra just in Hisui? How does a pokemon like H-Goodra go extinct? Loneliness?

[cerulean tundra]

i would assume that it went extinct because over time there was just less iron in the water

"I suspect its metallic shell developed as a result of the mucus on its skin reacting with the iron in Hisui's water."

so at some point a goomy evolved and it just didnt get a shell

[sturdy breach]

But then you would suspect they turn into the Goodra we know now, yet there are none in Sinnoh 🙂

Seems they are not reliant in it

[cerulean tundra]

maybe they just left
i'm not sure

[flat elk]

they got more confidence that they left their shell maybe?

[sturdy breach]

Then again, I don't think GF is trying to keep it consistent 🙂

[white meadow]

i mean some pokemon might have just been transported by the temporal vortex

just like magnezone doesn't feel like it belongs there

[regal vault]

Zoroark²

[cerulean tundra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1144254977141911592/GoodraEvo.gif

[flat elk]

Sliggoo also seems like they wanted to have a shell on them from the beginning

[cerulean tundra]

brain lump

[flat elk]

brain lump?

[sturdy breach]

Then again, Magnemite don't seem to be manmade. As long as there's a place with strong magnetic fields a Magnezone can be formed (like Probopass)

[cerulean tundra]

"The lump on its back contains its tiny brain. It thinks only of food and escaping its enemies."

from shield's dex entry

[sterile spoke]

What's your top 20, Gastly? 😄

[flat elk]

weird way to cover up their hunchback

[cerulean tundra]

what

[sturdy breach]

They made it look like a snail without technically making it a snail

[flat elk]

but even if thats where their brain is, wouldnt u want a helmet to cover it?

[cerulean tundra]

the ooze protects

[flat elk]

a fairy type that sneezed on a stick might say otherwise

[sturdy breach]

Sliggoo is highly acidic as well, a trait it luckily loses when it becomes Goodra

[cerulean tundra]

it's covered in "caustic slime that can melt through anything"

[white meadow]

why doesn't it melt itself then

[flat elk]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-goodra-ash-pikachu-hug-gif-17858056 uh oh

[cerulean tundra]

not true of goodra

[sturdy breach]

The Goodra line is weird in that all of it's stages should have different typing.

Goomy should have been Dragon/Water (it's 80% water)
Sliggoo should have been Dragon/Poison
Goodra is technically fine as a pure dragon type as it loses both the qualities as it evolves.

[cerulean tundra]

might make goom celebi
opinion?

[sturdy breach]

onion 🙂

[cerulean tundra]

i can make about 1 goom per day at this point

[white meadow]

goomy and ledyba to make a goomba

(probably not but eh who cares)

[sharp sedge]

I want sharpedo to be in it for one joke
Mr pedo
He can become who he always was

[sturdy breach]

That's ledyba body right? name wise

[sharp sedge]

Well also I just find sharpedo cool

[sturdy breach]

Sharpedo will use suffix Edo if it gets in. Luckily

[sharp sedge]

Logical

[white meadow]

and if slurpuff gets slurp you could still make slurpedo

[sturdy breach]

Mr. Edo is 100% more cool 🙂

[flat elk]

"This Pokémon is uncontrollable when enraged. It rampages on and on, lashing its tail with enough power to send a dump truck flying."

key words dump truck lol

[sharp sedge]

But it isn't showing what mr mime really is

[sturdy breach]

Fun fact: the modern way of yakuza emerged in the mid edo period, Mr. Edo could make a fun reference alt with that. (no reason to vote but fun fact nonetheless)

[flat elk]

we dont have a shark pokemon in do we?

[sharp sedge]

I have a lot of gen3 bias with my votes
Ziggy is YES mostly cause I used them soo much in my sapphire games to grind items with pickup
9 year old me

[sturdy breach]

Garchomp

[white meadow]

garchomp:

[flat elk]

ah

[white meadow]

zigzagoon would be fun with belly drum espeed and gluttony but realistically it has no chance

[sturdy breach]

I do think we need another shark pokemon in gen 10 tho

[sharp sedge]

We could have had 4 shark mons in 4 gens but 2 were scrapped

I hope one of them gets referenced in a sprite

[sturdy breach]

We have a regular shark, sand shark, now I demand a flying shark

[sharp nebula]

when i was a kid i used to think that sharpedo evolved into wailmer because they were next to each other in the dex

[sharp sedge]

I had a friend who was like how the fuck does a bear evolve into a snowflake

[lusty oxide]

Garchomp can fly lol

[flat elk]

closest we got is gary dos

[sturdy breach]

I always found that weird tbf 😄 Just stay in the sand dammit

[sharp sedge]

You lied

[sturdy breach]

It flies in the anime

[flat elk]

and in game too

[sharp sedge]

I don't think the anime is actually cannon

[white meadow]

and the dex

[flat elk]

u can find it flying in SV close to the cliffs around Area 0

[sturdy breach]

Garchomp flying doesn't really suit it sadly. I want a proper sky shark 😄

Make it Flying/Fairy just for the heck of it 😄

[white meadow]

nah the next sea creature they should make as a pokemon is the bobbit worm 👍

[sturdy breach]

They can do both 😄

[flat elk]

i hate that u made me look that up

[sturdy breach]

And now I'm curious

[white meadow]

such a fabulous creature right?

[flat elk]

[sturdy breach]

I would prefer the Sea angel

[flat elk]

cilque i think right? something close to that

clione* my bad

[sturdy breach]

Called sea angels, they are predatory sea slugs

[flat elk]

yup ik

[sturdy breach]

Free-swimming sea slugs

[sturdy breach]

Now I'm sorta sad H-Goodra wasn't the base, could get a regional form based off of this

[sturdy breach]

Eh, regional Gastrodon/Slugma it is

[flat elk]

i think its more likely it'll be its own pokemon

[sturdy breach]

I don't think people will be mad to see a regional Slugma that is water type 🙂

[flat elk]

omastar

https://tenor.com/view/omanyte-omastar-pokemon-digging-gif-18856023

[sturdy breach]

They are cephalopods though

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/coco-gif-23696899

[sturdy breach]

Yeah, they aren't slugs 🙂 nor snails

[thorny ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-simply-mantastic-mantastic-manta-ray-gif-26542779

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/mantine-heart-gold-rebalanced-gif-25621249

[cerulean tundra]

i goom colored a celebi and now it just looks like a shiny celebi

[thorny ferry]

Daily reminder of your sin: giving bruxish a 0-1
The bruxish church has said you can clean your sins by giving it a 3

[violet pawn]

I'm fine if people give it a 1, it still helps

[short garden]

isnt bruxish third from the bottom

[violet pawn]

WAS

[flat elk]

I wish to continue sinning

[lusty oxide]

What if you vote 2 on bruxish

[flat elk]

If I were to change my votes, do I have to go through the entire voting again?

[lusty oxide]

Nope you can just change your vote on one Pokémon

Although you do have to scroll all the way down to confirm your vote

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[flat elk]

I’m glad slurpuff is getting attention

[kind forum]

sorry was in a very long meeting! probably these:
Sableye, Goomy, Slugoo, Goodra, Tyrunt, Tyrantrum, Snowrunt, Glalie, Froslass, Salandit, Salazzle, Amaura, Aurorus, Timburr, Gurdurr, Conkeldurr, Shellos, Gastrodon, Inkay, Malamar

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[thorny ferry]

It helps

[white meadow]

Why people like Bruxish? It looks unpleasing to me, but I'm curious to hear other opinions about it

yeah that's exactly why people like it

[sturdy breach]

13/20 my own list, damn that's surprising 🙂

[sterile spoke]

Other than the Timburr and maybe Shellos line, that's an exceptionally solid list. 😄

[alpine rune]

@iron quartz should i really draw the ninjask?

I have no clue on what to base it on

[kind forum]

I really like the idea of Conk making the cut purely from a moveset standpoint, we don't have any actually good guts users with access to drain punch on their own, with both of those ticked on one mon it makes for more interesting fusion choices. Gastro I just like, it's funny xD but in hindsight swapping it out for some fairy would be good

[sterile spoke]

Can you imagine making Gurdurr fusions, though?

Like, people say Bruxish is ugly, but it's not Gurdurr levels of ugly. 😂

[kind forum]

Your not wrong

[thorny ferry]

I like its weirdness, I don't think we have anything like bruxish in PIF, and it is only one slot

[unique flame]

lilygant

[white meadow]

Makes sense, thank you

[unique flame]

lilygant

[lusty oxide]

Ah yes make all the Pokémon veiny

[unique flame]

lily

gant

[clever atlas]

Ly
Can
Roc

[lusty oxide]

Sew
ad
Lle

[iron quartz]

I said you should draw it based on Kunoichi

[alpine rune]

my brain wont move

[iron quartz]

...wjhat

WDYM

[thorny ferry]

Zan is experiencing brain paralysis 😔

[glass quail]

Plugging my choices again

[lusty oxide]

Pachurisu

[thorny ferry]

Zan is experiencing brain paralysis 😔

[glass quail]

I put it in since its the most iconic i think of the pika clones

[thorny ferry]

Wtf why did that send twice

[glass quail]

Granted really surprised to see people still havent jumped on the malamar train. Literally the easiest access to contrary that you will get plus squid fusions

[lusty oxide]

Zan is experiencing brain paralysis

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charjabug-lilligant-gif-9433738

[sturdy jungle]

Aurorus shall get in

[plush bough]

Hopefully poison fire lizard will be happy soon!

[lusty oxide]

Hopefully the well dressed bug makes it in

[sturdy jungle]

Vote Aurorus for the Aurora Borealis based fusions

[plush bough]

Well dressed bug?

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/leavanny-pokemon-bug-grass-hello-gif-18653110

[plush bough]

Oh

That also could look awesome with some salazzle colors 🤔

[sturdy jungle]

Leavanny is cool

Imagine the fusion with Aurorus for Leavanny, an elegant fusion knitting a reacreation of the Aurora Borealis

[tranquil dust]

2/10, not enough ice types

[lethal reef]

I will die on the hill that parichisu is a great pick, actually
It's a one slot mon, and it's unique enough that it would be great fusion material, and it's probably good stat wise idk I don't play the game

[cobalt nebula]

So much Ün ÜN Ün posting get I won’t even be remembered in history. What a tragedy

[iron quartz]

regirock?

[lusty oxide]

[violet current]

love malamar love lurantis design more, if lurantis gets in ill vote malamar a 3

contrary kinda a big selling point for my bug

[atomic furnace]

i hope we get atlease 1 more ice pokemon no matter what pokemon it might be

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/regice-pokémon-regice-ice-beam-pokémon-ice-beam-regice-uses-ice-beam-gif-26176891

[atomic furnace]

there were not many of them in the game

[cobalt nebula]

Only 14 if memory serves

[atomic furnace]

there is also limted number of lightning right?

[cobalt nebula]

I don’t remember the breakdown. All I remember is Ice has the least and Water has the most

[atomic furnace]

fire water and grass surely have the most because of the starter

there is also soo many bug type in the game

i just hope that the one with limited number of pokemon from those type get picked because, option is essential on making fusion

[frosty dagger]

Normal types are super common also

[plush bough]

Yeah they're pretty.... Normal 🙈

[rocky condor]

Would chatot be a good vote? I'd say so. They only take up 1 slot, bring something interesting to the table, that being their design and moveset, and it'd be the only bird music themed pokemon in infinite fusion.

[cedar mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cacturne-pokemon-gif-25124751

[cold fog]

Reminder that we have WAY too many gorgeous, cute fusions in the game. We need to balance it, and what could be more balancing then seeing downright TRASHY fusions? We need Garbodor in the game!

[sturdy breach]

For Ice, Vote Aurorus and Snorunt 🙂

[rustic topaz]

Gigalith

[white meadow]

I know someone you would like

[rustic topaz]

Who's that

[rocky condor]

Vote them :)

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/chatot-gif-24427133

[rocky condor]

Genuinely what i wanted to do to him in explorers of sky. That mf deserves it 💀

[gusty shuttle]

This is the only bird that can rival Pidove in basedness. In Italy you would make him insult God as a cry

[white meadow]

Please vote him he has a lot of potential + when we have it we can make goat/Ibex and even antelope fusions

[gusty shuttle]

Imma start a counter-propaganda against the goat I swear

[rocky condor]

For italy, it's insulting god. For americans, it's slurs

[graceful torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/plant-gay-gif-22767496

[violet pawn]

I asked it and it says it isn't gay and it is also homophobic

[graceful torrent]

ok and?

[violet pawn]

replace the text with 'homophobic plant' it will be way funnier

[rocky condor]

Ok but the image of the most gay looking guy being homophobic as fuck is just the funniest thing 💀

[graceful torrent]

i did not make the gif i just spam it for cherrim propaganda

[violet pawn]

ok

[white meadow]

that's ferrothorn

[violet pawn]

fuck it, all grass types are homophobic now

hello guys

[rocky condor]

even them?

[violet pawn]

hmmm

ok I got bored of this homophobia thing

[rocky condor]

Damn, i was gonna ask about the fake grovyle sprite i made as a joke next. They homophobic?

[violet pawn]

I refuse to answer

[rocky condor]

nah you right. Xenophobic

[white meadow]

Y tho

[white meadow]

Can he be on the Goomy/Goodra propaganda

[clever atlas]

What spamming Double Team feels like

Also, propaganda time!

[white meadow]

Lets make Lycanrock/Miltank but every nipple is a head

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[white meadow]

Only if you promise a Watame reference

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[clever atlas]

Lycanroc

[sturdy breach]

this please

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[dusk shoal]

Only missing purrugly. But pretty good list.

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[hollow tulip]

Missing some good mons

[dusk shoal]

I know that goodra line is mega likely even though im not a fan because slimy things make me ick and I think we have too many legendaries and I do not know how a two form meloetta would work in game, but other than that I do like that list.

[craggy pine]

Good list of you replace gogoat with archeops

[hollow tulip]

Agreed

Good triple fusion potential

[dusk shoal]

I'd probably put leavanny line over goodra, and purrugly over gogoat but yeah.

[hollow tulip]

You would put sewaddle over goomy??

[agile olive]

If it were going to be a triple fusion, which I don't think they're ever going to add more of, you'd need to include Xerneas and Zygarde too. Nah

[dusk shoal]

I think sewaddle is soooooo cute. I was a nanny for years and played black when child was tiny...so...

[hollow tulip]

Yeah
But goomy

[gusty shuttle]

I honestly don't understand how the goo is so popular

[hollow tulip]

How

[craggy pine]

Nah just triple it with Darkrai and Giratina

[graceful torrent]

im watching a video about dragalge how the fuck does it have adaptability also vote them

[sturdy breach]

Like?

[dusk shoal]

But goodra looks soooo sticky. I just...shudder. I get people like it.

[graceful torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/dragalge-pokemon-kalos-amie-pet-gif-27372796

[hollow tulip]

Marshadow and hoopa

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[sturdy breach]

It's one of the reasons that I like it so much 🙂 it's friend shaped, friend sized, friend personality 🙂

[hollow tulip]

Exactly

[craggy pine]

I like goodra for being novel. The only other gooey mon is muk and that's too far.

[sturdy breach]

Also has a unique ability, good stats, great movepool 🙂

[dusk shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/whose-line-is-it-anyway-ryan-stiles-waving-hands-hands-waving-gif-17550642

[dusk shoal]

Me when goodra line. Lol

[white meadow]

Sure Skiddo or Gogoat with Gardevoir I guess

[craggy pine]

I do not know why people want gogoat. It wouldn't add anything interesting...

[sturdy breach]

Either that or Meloetta if it gets in

[white meadow]

You have chosen death

[dusk shoal]

Also people missing out on sawsbuck, just saying.

[sturdy breach]

Grass scarfs, goat.

[hollow tulip]

Gogoat is just a goat
And I vibe with that

[sturdy breach]

I mean, look at it

[dusk shoal]

Goat is goat. Goat is good. I wish skiddo looked less like it's final Evo for better variety of art but gogoat is cute.

[white meadow]

It brings a lot
Unique Horns
Bush theme on a fully evolved mon
Goat, Ibex and even Antelope fusions
Gogoat is the only Goat in whole Pokemon
Its colors work super good on fusions
Its stats work good for fuseing
Its moveset adds interesting stuff
Its ability makes a imunity

[craggy pine]

Ok fair, there isn't a goat shape yet. It's stats/type/ability just don't contribute to using in game much.

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[unique flame]

liligant

[hollow tulip]

No

[white meadow]

I used it quiet some times it was always great
Also when fuseing it actually doesnt make bad fusions stat wise

[sturdy breach]

Gameplay wise the biggest downside to Gogoat is that there are no Grassy Surge mons (unless Bulu makes it in)

[dusk shoal]

But again, sawsbuck is a Chad for cervid forms

[sturdy breach]

And even then it's still pretty damn decent

I wonder why GF is not giving more mons weather/terrain abilities

How hard would it be to add/overwrite abilities in PIF?

[white meadow]

Yeah but the game dont use forms and most grass type fusions already do add (sometimes) or seasonal forms
Like Torterra fusions with a Sakura tree, tree with fallen leafs etc
I think the seasonal forms arent a reason in IF

[white meadow]

Also we already have a deer

[dusk shoal]

By thay I mean I like the deer with fluffy socks and mega antlers with all sorts of foliage

[craggy pine]

I love immunity abilities on dual types so I can fuse it into something that would be weak (e.g. lanturn/bird) but sap sipper on a mono grass is less fun. I get it though, not bad by any means.

[sturdy breach]

Quite frankly Ludicolo should have had Drizzle as it's ability

[white meadow]

Yeah but we can give Gogoat bigger horns too
Or all sorts of foliage
I planed one if it gets in with either Aurorus or Avalugg that has bigger horns with iceicles and snowy hooves

[sturdy breach]

Glalie should have had Snow Warning as well (to maybe pair it up with it's counterpart)

[craggy pine]

My "doesn't really add anything but I want it anyway" pick is Altaria.

[white meadow]

Upper left I made one with the GOAT

[sturdy breach]

It adds up though, great design potential

[hollow tulip]

Hear me out
Marshadow and hoopa

[craggy pine]

We have many stronger dragons, but I want to hug a team of clouds.

[white meadow]

I am still unsure if Altaria is a Cockatrice

[dusk shoal]

But...hear me out...stumpy gogoat...or majestic fluffy socks deer. I like the fluffy socks. Infact can we remove stantler and some other random ugly mon and just put sawsbuck in?

[hollow tulip]

Reasons for Marshadow

Heavy attack
Can be fused with tanks for extra bulk
Fuse for huge power to give it extreme attack to go on top of it amazing speed
He is cute boy
He had a movie
Alolan pokemon havent been well recognised in the game so having marshadow is a curveball
Friend sized

Reasons for Hoopa

Absolute powerhouse with attack and SP Atk
Fuse with a wall for perfect attack and defence
Two sprites to be used for two great fusion bases
Had a movie
Look at its cheeky smile

[sturdy breach]

I'm not too big on Marshadow/Hoopa. If I were to choose mythicals I would go for Meloetta/Zeraora

[white meadow]

As said we can make a Ibex Gogoat than its not stubby

[lusty oxide]

To fair there are a lot of good grass types to choose from

[sturdy breach]

ALL the grass ladies

[white meadow]

and diancie!

[hollow tulip]

I can agree with zeraora but meloetta has never really seemed that good

[sturdy breach]

I knew I was forgetting one.

[craggy pine]

Oh man, if removing old moms to make space was a option there would be rioting. (But we should totally axe seel for spheal.)

[sturdy breach]

Meloetta seems way more interesting when it comes to fusion designs

[white meadow]

Meloetta would be better for vtuber fusions than weavile

[hollow tulip]

Yeah but hoopa is an absolute beast

Meloetta just kinda sings

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/registeel-flames-fire-pokémon-registeel-registeel-shrugs-off-fire-gif-26176934

[sturdy breach]

Hoopa just creates portals, what's your point?

[hollow tulip]

Hoopa unbound

[white meadow]

Everything Hoopa can do, there are other Pokemon who practically do it better

Talking about the regis and Hooap atm
I tried something once

[dusk shoal]

I mean, weavile sadly still works best for my vtuber.

[white meadow]

Understandable

[gusty shuttle]

Who's sawsbuck

[craggy pine]

Hoopa's portals would let spriters go wild with vfx.

[hollow tulip]

Exactly

[gusty shuttle]

Ahhh the deer

[white meadow]

That can be done with Giratina, Palkia, Spiritomb, etc. already, so why does that matter?

[dusk shoal]

@gusty shuttle season based deer. Very cool. Allows for so much art. Has fluffy socks.

[cobalt nebula]

Genie

[sturdy breach]

Palkia already does spacial fusions idd

[hollow tulip]

Hoopa does portals tho

[gusty shuttle]

Normally it would be a 3 for me but the seasons don't really work here I'm afraid

[hollow tulip]

It's different

[white meadow]

Meloetta+Honchkrow for Nerissa Ravencroft reference

[white meadow]

And what about Giratina, Spiritomb, and the rest? They still do the same thing

[dusk shoal]

Lurantis honchcrow for mafia goodness.

[craggy pine]

I saw a rotom/meloetta that was cool a while ago...

[hollow tulip]

Hoopa has the rings, that opens up a lot of reference fusions

[sturdy breach]

Yeah there's some very nice Meloetta sprites already

[sturdy breach]

Reference fusions will never be main sprites though, and are not a reason to vote tbh

[white meadow]

And? Why can't Klefki do that instead?

not really never tho

[hollow tulip]

It's keys not rings

[white meadow]

sometimes they may pass when the reference is subtle enough ig

[white meadow]

It's a Key-RING, not just Keys

[sturdy breach]

By default fusion sprites will become alts unless the reference is not obvious enough 🙂 Fixed it 😄

[hollow tulip]

Bro who the hell looks at klefki and thinks
"Yeah, the keys pokemon, it's on a keyring so we should give it ring fusions"

When hoopa exists

[white meadow]

I do

[dusk shoal]

Torterra, has seasonal references in fusions 'this is fine' sawsbuck is gorgeous and implies so much art and fusions 'no, this cannot be for the game doesn't know the season'. (It doesn't need to. It would be am improvement to not have to wait on the season in real life)

[hollow tulip]

What pokemon do you want in then

[sturdy breach]

Hoopa is a genie, not a ring. You will be getting chibi genie fusions or Machamp with disembodied limbs

[white meadow]

the rayman bodytype

[white meadow]

Three Pokemon Lines in what I lead; that being, the TDG (Trevenant Dhelmise Gourgeist) Alliance

Or portals that summon giant fists

[hollow tulip]

Gourgeist is just incorrect

It has never been a good pokemon

[atomic lagoon]

when will the vote end

[dusk shoal]

I mean, hoopa just doesn't make me excited to draw, but it's not up to me, lol

[white meadow]

Whos better?
Deer that act like season mons but dont even change theyr types to it
OR
A cool Bike Goat that shows you whos the GOAT when he RAMs (pun intended)

Hoopa and Trevnant could make that || Master Crown tree || from KRtDD

[atomic lagoon]

ngl maybe it shouldn't have been set to last a month

[dusk shoal]

The deer. Lol so cute.

[white meadow]

No it's not; Gourgeist can make Pumpkin Fusions, Halloween-Themed Fusions, and if it's the Body then you could replace the Pumpkin with something else to make something similar to Mimikyu with its own unique spin on things since it can still keep the actual Body Parts that come out of the Pumpkin

Btw y does Sawsbuck remind me of the "let me do it for you" dog atm😂

[white meadow]

would make more sense with sableye since it's a gem thing

[sturdy breach]

I'm partial to cervids but I don't see a reason to get it in with Stantler there for the body type

[white meadow]

I could see that

[sterile spoke]

Don't vote for things based on reference sprites that'll get alted. 😛

[dusk shoal]

Stantl3r looks like snoopy. It's a big no from me.

[white meadow]

Question if I use Gogoat to make a Ibex or Antelope based fusion is it still fine since its still goat like?

[sturdy breach]

Sad that it's the cervid that got introduced first

[white meadow]

I'm just saying possibilities

[white meadow]

So answer me: why do you think that Gourgeist is supposedly Useless for you hotdogbrained, if there are all of these benefits from it being added?

[white meadow]

Think about it again
We could do so many mythical animals and cryptids with Gogoat too

[dusk shoal]

Tp ne honest I'm not sure, most times the official fusion is the one that strongly uses the original silhouette

[rocky condor]

Forgot to do the trend but...3 vote showcase. Size dictates how much i want them in.

[white meadow]

Actually im unsure since I saw it with example dino mons

[white meadow]

pretty sure they aren't making an argument about viability but ok ig

also hoopa's typing is horrible

[vague heath]

no lurantis it's over

[white meadow]

You forgot to add Gogoat there
Mistakes happen dont worry

[white meadow]

Its a fusion game tho

[hollow tulip]

Are the stats

[white meadow]

hey he pointed out the type too soo...

Oh sorry

[lusty oxide]

[white meadow]

And if you're saying that Hoopa's Type being Changed is a reason why it should get in, then that also means that you agree with a Reason why Gourgeist should ALSO get in

[hollow tulip]

Yeah but with hoopa it's only two weaknesses so just Fuse with a fairy or sonething

[white meadow]

Gogoat

[rocky condor]

lol. Lmao even

[clever atlas]

Based behheyem enjoyer

[lusty oxide]

I am watching the chaos

[dusk shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/purugly-pokemon-love-hearts-gif-25265794

[white meadow]

Im proud of you

[hollow tulip]

It has 5 weaknesses

[white meadow]

Really hotdogbrained...? Buddy, First of All, the Type can Change from the Fusions

[rocky condor]

i don't think you noticed its size

[hollow tulip]

Yeah but fix the stats as well

[white meadow]

yours have a double weakness to the two most common types and barely any resistance

[craggy pine]

Are the people calling for chatot memeing? There is nothing at all interesting about it. Yet another normal/flying, bad stats, generic abilities. Even it's signature move isn't actually interesting... If you want a music themed mon for spriting, just vote meoletta?

[white meadow]

And Second of All: Two 4x Weaknesses are pretty much on the same level as Five 2x Weaknesses

2 resistances and immunities 🔥

[hollow tulip]

I repeat, Fuse with a fairy

[gentle ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1141183759148920872/7vvykb.gif

[white meadow]

And that's only ONE Type Combination to Change for Fusing with Hoopa

[sturdy breach]

So you can use fuse them as a way to fix your typing issue, but someone else can't?

[hollow tulip]

What pokemon will you Fuse with gourgeist to

1. Fix the typing
2. Fix the stats
3. Look cool

[sturdy breach]

Just don't bring up typing at all at that point

[rocky condor]

Good colors, music note fusion concepts, they were in explorers of sky, meaning more pmd fusions, i could go on

[dusk shoal]

Normal. And every single Pokémon will look good with evil pumpkin vibes.

[hollow tulip]

Definitely won't

[sturdy breach]

I will say that I see more fusion potential with Pumpkaboo and Gourgeist

[hollow tulip]

Pumpkinify a pidgey

[white meadow]

Then think about the Potential of Fusions you can get from a Halloween THEME instead of JUST Pumpkin

[craggy pine]

Any ghost type can be made uber by fusing it to Slaking, but that isn't a great argument for any particular one...

[hollow tulip]

Use any ghost type

[sturdy breach]

He's not making a point, he's countering one

[dusk shoal]

@hollow tulip how is that hard. Pumpkin for a head, leafy wings, like?

[gentle ferry]

Look if we’re talking typing then Gastrodon passes on ground type and water immunity at the same time

[rocky condor]

The fusions don't even have to JUST be music note or pmd fusions. Chatot's a parrot. (Or a parrakeet idk which one.) You can do a BUNCH with that concept