pif-hoenn-discussion

[modern nexus]

The max tier super hero skin he have in unite:

[thin thicket]

could he get fusion where he doesn't skip leg day

[cyan hare]

if all of this shit happens then imma bust an immaculate nut

[upper echo]

I'd put more weather setters but there's only 20 so I put my favs

[white meadow]

What's the name of someone with a phobia of bugs? I imagine they'd just die.

[modern nexus]

wait no thats a super villain skin Lmao

[cyan hare]

but Id settle for the top row too

[white meadow]

Entomophobia. There it is.

[upper echo]

Give me relicanth
I want the funny rock fish

[hard kiln]

saved? You mean saved for a special fight, right?

[thin thicket]

jojo...

[upper echo]

Please a headsmash rockhead user that doesn't require egg moves

[thin thicket]

he need to not skip leg day as a fusion

[white meadow]

In the sense of Buzzwole being a superhero like they mentioned, hahaha

[hard kiln]

if he had legs to match, everyone is doomed.

Give him guzzlord's legs lol

[white meadow]

Oh, stylish.

[modern nexus]

ah yes, anti hero mosquito

[hard kiln]

now THAT is a jojo vibe

[white meadow]

Honestly? I can see Buzzwhole and Golisopod getting along.

At least when having a conversation on training or something.

[hard kiln]

Yare yare daze~

[white meadow]

Hahaha

[thin thicket]

who would be dio tho

[hard kiln]

blacephalon + celebi?

[thin thicket]

omg.....

[rough hound]

Ive gotta ask. Does anyone actually know why dragalge wasnt popular? I never saw any content of em anywhere before less than a year ago despite it debuting in X and Y, which just really throws me off since it was the first of its type and has a really cool design

[thin thicket]

i can see it now XD him doing wrryyyy

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/golisopod-evil-evil-smile-gif-19275451

[thin thicket]

might because of horsea, but for me, he kind look like burnt kelp, he's still cool tho

[modern nexus]

i imagine a comedic duo
where golli is like, the serious japanese one whos very skilled and cool while buzz is like those muscular brute whose kind of dumb? and he always flex around right? like im number 1 or something

[hard kiln]

wonder of U Blacephalon

[white meadow]

Ha! I can imagine that, yeah.

[hard kiln]

i feel buzzswole would just be the chillest gym bro who is always looking out for others' safety.

[white meadow]

Ah, the hydration bros?

[hard kiln]

yeah.

ever read nerd and jock? Buzzswole would be Jock from that. The most wholesome bro anyone can have. Nerd would probably be Kartana, the most awesome bro anyone can have.

[thin thicket]

omg Blacephalon could make jevil

[white meadow]

I haven't seen that, but I may look it up later. Honestly Buzzwhole and Golisopod look like they could have many different personalities. I think I prefer the gym bro headcanon, though.

Man's just tryin'a get back to space.

[hard kiln]

golisopod is equivalent to a sensitive strong person. easily scared at many things, which is why it runs at the first sign of danger and pain, but uses that strength for it's friends when the chips are down.

And buzzswole would just be so supportive of his bro. knowing his potential and not pushing him to anything his buddy isn't comfortable with while opening him up to new things.

[white meadow]

I'd watch it.

[hard kiln]

it's why people easily can see golisopod as a bully, alot of bark but when something stands up to him he backs down even if he has the strength to deal with it, because he's the bully that does it because life pushed him into that role and is looking for a way out rather than outright enjoying being over others.

[thin thicket]

now that's menacing aura

[white meadow]

I'd 100% watch that show. Maybe Golisopod could open a dojo or something. Hahaha

[modern nexus]

me personally tho, id love to see darumaka in the game just to see pokémon being dolls

[wintry imp]

So one could say its a reflection of the trainer it's most commonly associated with?

[white meadow]

It'd be a good excuse to get a Wimpod in there.

https://tenor.com/view/wimpod-wednesday-gif-22971656

[modern nexus]

but then there's guzma's gollisopod lmao

[hard kiln]

what if ultra beasts are human in their world, but become pokemon when crossing over? Or we only see them as pokemon but they're just exceptional humans from other world situations?

[hard kiln]

yes. exactly.

[thin thicket]

man got his head stolen

[wintry imp]

Plot Twist, they're from MHA

[sturdy breach]

Didn't it also wimp out after it was finally damaged?

[modern nexus]

thats its ability afterall

[white meadow]

About halfway, yeah. Until the last battle, where it defied its own ability.

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/gogogolisopod-golisopod-goatedgolisopod-gif-25159759

[hard kiln]

it's a blowhard. it hits like a truck but can't stand pain. talks good talk, but when something fights back it runs xD

[white meadow]

It was a very sweet scene, honestly.

[sturdy breach]

So that means Golisopods are really cowards by nature 🙂

[hard kiln]

but when the chips are down, it's the one you bet on.

[sturdy breach]

Also, poor Scizor did not deserve that.

[white meadow]

Many of them, yeah. Due to their ability. Save for Guzma's, who found a way to defy it.

[wintry imp]

Honestly though XD

[modern nexus]

bro let a steel and bug eat a fire blast 😭

[hard kiln]

it's like a regular bug, it is designed to look super scary but when something calls it's bluff, it's time to dip.

[white meadow]

I just use it as a means of getting my guy to use First Impression multiple times. I adore my Golisopod.

Shoutout to you, Ravana. Couldn't have won without you.

[wintry imp]

Is this a thing that happened in the games or just the anime?

Because if it's the Anime then we can chalk it up to THE RULE OF COOL

[modern nexus]

also out of topic but...Guzma theme slaps tho

[white meadow]

Pokemon can't defy their abilities in the game, I'm pretty sure.

[sturdy breach]

I'm never quite clear how abilities really work in Pokemon. It seems like most abilities reflect parts of the pokemon's personality etc.

[hard kiln]

so the rule of cool also includes:

Throwing your allies under the bus about to be fire blasted when they are 4x weak to it and have no special defensive stats xD

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/araquanid-araquanid-pet-pet-pokemon-gif-16349322576860259266

[sturdy breach]

So that would mean Guzma's Golisopod finally found at least SOME courage

[hard kiln]

it really does. as does cynthia's meeting theme, that piano musical is terrifying.

[white meadow]

Yeah. It was a very cool scene, and stuck with me.

[hard kiln]

cries in battle frontier.

[wintry imp]

Instant Fear Reaction

[stable vapor]

Hey guys how are things goin round here

[hard kiln]

having a good time. join us!

[white meadow]

Pretty well, all considered. Insomnia reigns, but I'm talking about my favorite Pokemon, so it's not all bad.

[hard kiln]

execute fear.exe

[dry thunder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/953844866054496358/1129932785289797763/tumblr_12950d389845feea698f591ee06dd0a1_96f063cc_100.gif

[sturdy breach]

When it comes to music, there is a sense of nostalgia in earlier games. But I really like a lot of the musc from SwSh and SV (Team Star Grunt theme goes hard)

[stable vapor]

Bro that reminds me of how badly I wanna get a shiny araquanid at some point

[thin thicket]

Look there's so many ideas

[hard kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-jotaro-kujo-jojos-gif-7297252

[white meadow]

Well, one of my favorites, anywho.

[wintry imp]

If we get Blacephalon, how long until someone combines it with Hypno for a Pennywise reference

[stable vapor]

I feel that

[dry thunder]

blacephalon would make cute ass fusions tho

[wintry imp]

I don't disagree

[hard kiln]

more possibilities

[dry thunder]

doubleclown mr mime

[white meadow]

I'm also fond of Pangoro. Honestly a lot of my favorites are due to that blind ultra moon nuzlocke. Hahaha

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-pokemon-pokémon-shields-down-super-meteor-650-gif-13438644593076750957

[dry thunder]

i never cared for pangoro but it does have a nice design

[thin thicket]

Why is there boss music

[wintry imp]

LOOK AT HIM. LOOK AT THE BEAN

[hard kiln]

i love me some pangoro. hey, we can get dark hero buzzswole by fusing it with pangoro!

[dry thunder]

that being said i voted low on blacephalon

[hard kiln]

hold on, one sec, let me turn my eyes on xD

[dry thunder]

im a contrarian by nature

[white meadow]

That'd be an interesting fusion.

[dry thunder]

minior is so cute

[hard kiln]

possibilities.

Xirktree + blacephalon

[dry thunder]

everything has possibilities if youre creative enough

[white meadow]

I know the Panda Yakuza isn't likely to get in because of the sheer amount of bears already in, but I can dream.

[hard kiln]

very much so. imagination's the limit.

dang, we didn't get an option for Ursaluna D:

[dry thunder]

so everythings viable no more complaining abt weak designs just get creative

[stable vapor]

That bear... That freaking bear...

[thin thicket]

bro can literally have his head replaced with a beach ball, and boom water type

[dry thunder]

replace it with a bomb now its fire type

[white meadow]

Just a mishmash of floaties. That'd be hilarious.

[rough hound]

If yall vote dragalge, toxicroak, and gastrodon into the game ill have no choice but to work on my spriting skills so i can make them cool fusions and bases like the ones im making now

[hard kiln]

you heard em! more!

[dry thunder]

gastrodon is one of my favorite pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/gastrodon-tritodon-spinning-okayu-nekomata-okayu-gif-24088570

[wintry imp]

Agreed 1000%

[thin thicket]

perfect example of what mime jr and mr. mime could be

[stable vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/トリトドン-gastrodon-gif-26222567

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/body-slam-gastrodon-pokemon-gif-13030822

[white meadow]

Alright, I'm going to try to melatonin. Night everyone. (maybe)

[hard kiln]

nini

[dry thunder]

lets all vote for nothing and just like idk walk into the ocean with rocks in our shoes

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-pokemon-pokemon-refresh-gif-24549445

[thin thicket]

What arceus could be with him

[hard kiln]

i love seeing people enjoying their favorite pokemon.

[wintry imp]

Honestly if we had to only get one Ultra Beast, it would have to be either Blacephalon or Xirkitree

[rough hound]

Seems like this is a good crowd for some good ol fashioned gastrodon propoganda, so heres some examples of what you can expect to see if they get in

[thin thicket]

man juggling your planets the palm of his hands

[gaunt dove]

So is spheal gonna join us?

[stable vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/loserlocke-sven-gif-26478088

[hard kiln]

so much creative freedom with blacephalon.

You know, i'd expect people to be gunning for pheramosa so hard because of gardevoir reasons. i'm surprised.

[wintry imp]

Eh

[rain gust]

😩

[hard kiln]

the god we asked for

[stable vapor]

: O

[wintry imp]

As much as Pheramosa would be fun for "Ha ha, we want to fuck the pokemon" jokes, the other ultrabeasts have funner designs, at least in my opinion, for fusions. Mainly because, frankly, they have some of the more unique designs by base, let alone when fused

[hard kiln]

the cleanest pokemon i've seen.

[rough hound]

I also happen to have made this gastrodon fusion with dragalge just recently, and im honestly really proud of it. 2 of my favorite mons becoming a badass fusion

[sudden jackal]

Vote castform for amazing weather fusions!

[thin thicket]

hey stop clowning around that's his job bruh

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/dragalge-pokemon-kalos-amie-pet-gif-27372796

[hard kiln]

i'm also a kartana and celesteela fan.

[thin thicket]

omg burnt kelp

[rain gust]

True but Xurkitree,as much as I love him,is just wires sadly so making things with him would be tough af

[stable vapor]

As someone who is a big fan of Gastrodon and Dragalge, I love this

[gaunt dove]

How many more pokemon will there be once they add 20?

[rough hound]

Hehe =3

[wintry imp]

420 Blaze It

[dry thunder]

buzzwole

[hard kiln]

kartana adds some fun origami pokemon options

[sudden jackal]

if we pick castform we get so many awesome weather fusions like imagine it with groudon you get a sun team version of ursoluna but better

[stable vapor]

Omg those Kingdra fusions feel so seamless

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/poipole-pokemon-cute-happy-excited-gif-17234107

[dry thunder]

not the part of the text i was talking about

[rough hound]

If you love those two, then you definitely qualify to join Team Dragicroadon. Its an alliance of dragalge, toxicroak, and gastrodon, and we just hang out in a server talking about cool mons and spriting

[wintry imp]

Tbh you're gonna have to explain it to me lol

[hard kiln]

which part of the text are we talking about, step bro?

[thin thicket]

omg i just realize blacephalon is 5'11'' man really missed by one inch.

[sturdy breach]

Turn everything into cockroaches tho 🙂

[wintry imp]

I'm going to turn something into fucking Gregor

[dry thunder]

kafkhaesque

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-company-gregor-limbus-gregor-gregor-samsa-gregor-gif-9810540471115212584

[hard kiln]

that means Blacephalon is taller than charizard (5' 7")

[dry thunder]

leaked pheramosa/houndoom fusion

[hard kiln]

megaman battle network 6 Gregor?

[wintry imp]

Wrong, Limbus Company Gregor

[thin thicket]

Blacephalon knows the struggle of man: height

[hard kiln]

i want a Gospel (megaman bass) fusion made out of houndoom and genesect please.

also, then we can make bass by fusing clawitzer and bisharp

[rough hound]

Another custom sprite ive been working on. I needed to show my love for one of my all time favorite mons.

All i can hope now is that he gets in so this base doesnt go to waste when its done.

[sturdy breach]

I want a biker-like Salazzle/Houndoom fusion

[thin thicket]

He doing a little minecraft trolling griefing your base

[hard kiln]

when i see dark hero buzzswole, i think of the bancho digimon, like bancholeomon and bancholilymon.

so we can have bancho fusions if we add pangoro. imagine, Bancho gardevoir xD

[stable vapor]

Bet

Where do I sign up

[rough hound]

I know i keep sending this, im just really proud of myself for actually managing to do art

[stable vapor]

Can't blame you, being able to do sprite art is something that's not exactly easy from what I can tell

[hard kiln]

dangit, i can't post the bancho gardevoir i found. Hngh.

[rough hound]

Yeah, youre right on the mark. Youd think itd be easier with less colors and shading to worry about, but its actually the opposite. Every single pixel counts, cant have a single one out of place

[hard kiln]

if you put a black jacket on this specific pikachu, and maybe give it a baseball bat, you get bancho pikachu! We NEED pangoro. we need bancho pikachu.

[thin thicket]

omg he's a punk

the next best thing besides wrestler pikachu

[stable vapor]

Bro the mention of Pangoro reminds me of how my friend recently sac'd his Pangoro during the soullink we're doing

And I was sad bc it was linked to the Quagsire that had been like one of my biggest carries throughout the run

[hard kiln]

it's why we need pangoro. punk pikachu!

[raw bison]

I'm doing two top twenty lists, one which is unashamedly biased and one where I'm trying to take my biases into account and adjust for what I think would be good for the game oveerall (not just me personally) and man it's HARD

[rough hound]

I think yall are forgetting the OG punk pokemon. Allow me to remind you

[hard kiln]

vote for wants, all the bias xD

[thin thicket]

omg you are right well

[dry thunder]

Og punk was electrode my anarchist queen

[thin thicket]

but greg funny tho

[hard kiln]

i already voted for him. i want him too xD

i need my PUNK team!

[rough hound]

Toxicroak not only has IMMACULATE punk vibes, but also a great typing, palette, and super good unique traits for fusions (body shape, knife hands, throat sac, weird mustache that i refuse to acknowledge)

[random niche]

hear me out

[thin thicket]

i need my clown bro

[random niche]

if everyone votes for tinkaton the fusions can be, the hammer is just made of different pokemon

[thin thicket]

bloodborne boom hammer

[hard kiln]

heheh. hammer made of corviknight to slay corviknight.

[random niche]

silly pink goblin pokemon with big hammer

[dry thunder]

Nobody understands the anarcho-depressive doom metal vibes of electrode like I do

[zinc cave]

imagine a double blacephalon

[rough hound]

Hot take. I dont care how pink it is, tinkaton should be a dark type. Mfs make weapons out of pokemon corpses

[thin thicket]

omg perfect king dedede reference

[zinc cave]

hotter take tinkaton shouldve been the psuedo legendary

[random niche]

you should be a fire type with how fire that take is

[thin thicket]

he'd become the master of the circus

[zinc cave]

i always name my blacephalons gumball

[hard kiln]

it's less a goblin and more a pixie.

[grave jolt]

Mr. Mime

[hard kiln]

we need an electrode for each pokeball type.

[sturdy breach]

medium hot take, Fairy type doesn't mean a pokemon is good natured 🙂

[zinc cave]

nah cuz see blacephalon is the better mr mime

[hard kiln]

i see you don't understand how dark and grim fairies can be. there's reasons we have legends of them, to warn people away from them. they are terrible.

[rough hound]

Kyogre for great ball

[thin thicket]

omg thank you he got the better drip

[zinc cave]

mmhmmm fairy type goes with fairy tales and fey creatures and they are NOTORIOUS tricksters

[grave jolt]

That certainly is a take

[hard kiln]

great electrode being part water type or getting a specific special move to fit?

[rough hound]

I do understand, im not only a fan of mythology but also an avid dnd player who knows the danger of the fair folk. I just still think dark type fits better based on its lore

[zinc cave]

im just saying, ive never seen a mr mime moonwalk of explode its head

[random niche]

i just think tinkaton would be amazing for infinite fusion bc we could have things like groudons head on a hammer for tinkaton

[rough hound]

I was just saying for the colors lol =P

[thin thicket]

hot take here. Blacephalon is perfect for a kingdom hearts reference

[sturdy breach]

It's not really malicious though

[random niche]

like all tinkaton fusions keep the fairy typing and the sub typing becomes whatever the hammer is

[rough hound]

Voltorb and electrode explode their heads

[hard kiln]

dark pokemon straddle the line between tranquil and misunderstood, and dangerous by nature. fairies are usually bad news for all involved.

Scrafty is just a humble hoodlum with dreams of being a dark knight.

Tinkaton is an active menace that actively hunts a specific pokemon out of sport.

[thin thicket]

he could literally be any of the nobodies

[hard kiln]

oh. Oh. okay, carry on.

[hard kiln]

steaming hot take: fairy pokemon should be dangerously mischievous by nature.

[steady mountain]

Are we voting for froslass in here

[sturdy breach]

I partially agree, plenty of good natured nature spirits around as well

[raw bison]

Okay, I got my two top twenty boxes. One, I just pick my top 20 - the ones I personally want. The other I consider what they contribute to the game as a whole - and yes some of them don't move, I'll fight you on those, they're good picks. First, unashamedly biased list - if I were picking just to make myself happy with no regard to anything else

[rough hound]

Yes, but at the same time you have literal hellhounds and the living embodiment of a nightmare in the dark typing, while the fairy typing gets clefable and togepi.

Theyre both a mixed bag

[grave jolt]

the name of the Dark type in Japan is literally translated as evil

[hard kiln]

tinkaton not malicious? it actively hunts corviknight out of the sky, on sight, whenever it gets a chance. it's such a problem corviknight cannot be used for transport in that whole reason. it's intentional xD

[steady mountain]

The joke with tinkaton is that it's not even good at hunting corviknight

[rough hound]

I do agree with that take, theyve gotta pick a side

[steady mountain]

In a 1v1, corviknight wins

[thin thicket]

hey kaegro sableyes already getting added

[hard kiln]

spirits, yes. fairies, no. most have their own wants first and foremost, and those wants are so often detriments to our health even if they don't mean to be. and that's the ones trying to be nice, then there's the ones that will just kidnap you.

[raw bison]

Second list: In which I consider what the mons bring to the game as a whole, like new mechanics, triple fusions, or thematic balance

[sterile spoke]

Exquisite taste, my friend. 🙂

[hard kiln]

yeah, i can see that.

[zinc cave]

Blacephalon has SOO much potential to make weird cool unique fusions

[rough hound]

Tinkaton are ambush predators, the corviknight dont even see them before they get hit

[sterile spoke]

I see 0 universes in which Spritzee gets in. 😛

[thin thicket]

look at the announcements sableye already getting added

[grave jolt]

Valid list, and immaculate taste.

[hard kiln]

Absol is anything but evil, and the perfect example of the complexities of dark type pokemon.

[steady mountain]

I don't like toxicroak because it looks like it's wearing a diaper

[grave jolt]

that said: Pachirisu #1

[steady mountain]

Which is a shame, because I adore croagunk

[raw bison]

Honestly that was the hardest set of slots to fill, and mostly won out because I believe it deserves a chance to have that great plague doctor aesthetic on a body that is not a puffball

[sturdy breach]

I wouldn't consider Seviper and Zangoose malicious either though. Even though they always fight like crazy when they meet

[rough hound]

He is not the only one, pokemon designers are on some weird stuff man =|

[raw bison]

Yeah it's there cause sableye is taking one of the slots, can't do anything about that so it's more of a reminder to me to not fill it

[thin thicket]

blacephalon possible kingdom heart fusions

[hard kiln]

yeah, but at least they fight one another as natural enemies. Tinkaton goes out of it's way to hunt poor corviknights, who did nothing to deserve this, never asked for that fight, and actively only try to run from tinkatons. Since tinkatons go out of their way to literally hunt corviknights xD

[sturdy breach]

At the same time I would almost think Tinkaton being one of the most human like in nature.

[zinc cave]

Thats why i want croagunk in cuz the fusions can improve toxicroak

[hard kiln]

i mean, it is one of the few, if not only, pokemon to hunt for sport. quite a few pokemon do use tools as well. Conkledurp, alakazam, komala, etc.

[zinc cave]

It is the dwarf blacksmith archetype

[thin thicket]

little gnome

[sturdy breach]

Would humans have a normal/dark typing if they were pokemon?

[thin thicket]

nah it be more normal shadow.

we are sometimes devoid of emotions

[rough hound]

Good question, id say yes. Humans are far more than devious enough

[zinc cave]

Prolly pure normal type with dark type moves, humans arent inherently evil but have the ability to do it

[hard kiln]

humans are flexible. usually normal types, there's martial competant humans who would be normal fighting. mediums would be normal ghosts. fairy trainers don't age i think. pyrokinetic trainers exist and would be normal fire. pretty much, normal would be the base but the kind of human changes the type. punks are often electric or poison.

[zinc cave]

Or with a split evolution to evolve into a good person or a bad person

Or like arceus where different items change the type

[rough hound]

Humans are like eevee, split evo

[sturdy breach]

baby being normal type, evolve into a teen with normal/poison. then split the evo? 🙂

[hard kiln]

it has nothing to do with good and evil. Bruno, the most likely to be pure fighting human, is an eco terrorist. so is Lance, actually. the original elite 4 are evil, but only agatha would be a ghost type, something close to evil.

[silver ginkgo]

Finally, someone with taste. altough im more interested in blacaphelon as a head in other fueions so that his colour scheme and hat can be given to others. Stat wise that makes mire sense too.

[zinc cave]

I think the best choices are ones that can bring some new and weird to the table

[hard kiln]

electricians would be normal electric.

There are psychic humans, who would be normal psychic (sabrina)

herbalists would be normal grass.

[thin thicket]

Bro glad you think the same way

[hard kiln]

koga, a literal ninja assassin, would definitely be a poison type human.

[rough hound]

Im mostly neutral about em, but i cant say i wont be disappointed if i dont see a fusion with a seal mon doing the balancing thing with blacephelons head

[sturdy breach]

Zeraora can also be the legendary/mythical/UB of your choice that isn't Guzzlord or Stakataka 😄

[rough hound]

Zeraora is so cool, super underrated. The only thing is that itll basically just be an electric type lucario, and that makes me sad

[hard kiln]

giovanni is evil, and he would be a ground type human. even though he runs team rocket. he might fit the ground dark type, with how hidden and in the background he likes to work right under everyone's nose.

[sturdy breach]

Giovanni has no ground-like qualities other than the pokemon he uses though. He's just a normall dude who's evil

[zinc cave]

im honestly not the biggest zeraora fan, outside of pokemon unite

[hard kiln]

but Marnie would be a dark type human. and she is not evil.

[cyan hare]

I obviously have the best list

[silver ginkgo]

I just woke up whats this about?

[hard kiln]

giovanni does have ground type qualities. sturdy, hard headed, under the radar, and is a diamond in the rough.

[thin thicket]

sableye already in tho

[old bluff]

no lurantis is it

[cyan hare]

to everyone saying no. you smell

[hard kiln]

we are talking about if humans had pokemon types. join in, it's fun xD

[rough hound]

What pokemon types people would be

[silver ginkgo]

Half of it is really good. But 3 slots on gothitella and 4 slots on cosmog line?

[cyan hare]

I mean

[sturdy breach]

There's a distinct lack of Goodra/Froslass/Lurantis on there

[thin thicket]

we don't need more of 'those' types

[cyan hare]

Space. that is my argument

[hard kiln]

ya'll saying Marnie is evil? >w> Piers, well, he did let his whole town become a cult that actively tried to stop things, but they did it for a good reason. good reason, still evil, piers xD

[cyan hare]

No there isnt

[hard kiln]

what do you mean by 'those' types? You mean Bruxish!?

[silver ginkgo]

Where is the hat

[thin thicket]

nah i meant the goth

[cyan hare]

heres my full tierlist

[silver ginkgo]

Blacephalon in uninteresting fusions?

[hard kiln]

gothlita?

[cyan hare]

yea

[hard kiln]

THEY WHAT!?

[grave jolt]

Blacephalon is meh

[thin thicket]

again

[hard kiln]

alright everyone, you heard Rose!

Ready the flavor!

[thin thicket]

He's major potential

[cyan hare]

hmmmmmmm nah

[thin thicket]

i already show one idea of cool reference with him

[grave jolt]

I really don't see it.

[hard kiln]

to be fair, i am just looking for excuses to show off more blacephalon fusion options xD

[zinc cave]

imagine a blacephalon and mawile that the ball just opens like

[thin thicket]

counterpoint:

cool references

[rough hound]

Ok that goes hard

[thin thicket]

wait that kind of look like the demogorgon

[silver ginkgo]

Circus colours, ball head, cool hat, spindly stick figure body, pennywise referances etc.

[cyan hare]

okay that is cool and all but just imagine anything with dhelmise

[thin thicket]

little prankster

[cyan hare]

looks like a jawbreaker

[grave jolt]

I still have yet to see a Blacephalon fusion I like.

[silver ginkgo]

Unown+blacaphelon=literal stick figure

[zinc cave]

clowns are so fun

[alpine rune]

whats with the sudden clown invasion around here?

[thin thicket]

in my honest opinion i think blacephelon is looked over compared to all the other ultrabeast.

[silver ginkgo]

Scarfty+blachepolon=fancy pants adventure

[zinc cave]

jigglypuff and blacephalon

[cyan hare]

its discord what do you expect?

if I had to choose between blacephalon and stakataka then im choosing stakataka

[hard kiln]

oooh. i hadn't thought about this. blacephalon would definitely be on joker's roster xD

[thin thicket]

that's what i just posted a few hours ago 🙂

[grave jolt]

I don't like any ultra beast 😉

[silver ginkgo]

Its todays propaganda. We get a new one every day.

[cyan hare]

I just want minior, necrozma and dhelmise and im happy

[rough hound]

I dont like that look mr mimes giving me

[zinc cave]

OH SHOOT IMAGINE THIS AS A BANETTE + BLACEPHALON

[thin thicket]

but he got the moves tho

[zinc cave]

i like EVERY ULTRA BEAST

[hard kiln]

i don't think anyone does xD

[cyan hare]

for anyone that has been keeping up what do yall think are the chances of these 3 making it in

[sterile spoke]

I wish Aromatisse was a Fairy/Poison plague doctor instead of what we got. 😢

[hard kiln]

i am not good with chances. i just want them all in. ^3^ i don't mind what we get.

[rough hound]

Necrozma is about an 80+ percent chance imo, but the others unfortunately dont seem too likely

[silver ginkgo]

Whats the name of the sun/moon guy from the security breach fnaf game? Blacephalon+lunatone and solrock would be that.

[cyan hare]

noooooooooooo my anchor boy

[grave jolt]

I guess I gotta do more Pachi propoganda today when I wake up then, huh?

[thin thicket]

i don't know about necrozma I feel that we have to have the two other sun and moon beast as well, it would be more of a package

[silver ginkgo]

He should be given a ball to play with.

[hard kiln]

you better, we need pachirisu.

[cyan hare]

tbh any of the pikaclones would be a waste ngl

[thin thicket]

wait.... blacephalon could be perfect for black and white cartoon character

[silver ginkgo]

In what fusion blacephalon would be ballin with his own head?

[zinc cave]

machoke?

[thin thicket]

definitely machoke

[hard kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-entrance-bomb-voyage-cocky-gif-11702027

[cyan hare]

like who are likely picks to make it in

[hard kiln]

mr. mime + blacephalon = bomb voyage

[thin thicket]

bruh you didn't need to do him like that

[rough hound]

Im not even doing this for propoganda, toxicroak is a frog for high jump height and would be the king of dunks

[silver ginkgo]

Blacephalon can reference stuff like scarevrows or stick figures too sith his frame. His unique body allows so many design oppurtunities.

[hard kiln]

i believe it needed to be done.

[hard kiln]

oh, and arson. so many fun arson motifs.

[zinc cave]

honestly, goodra or any of like the waifu mons, i think those are most popular among the biggest number of people

[cyan hare]

didnt know goodra was popular lmao

[hard kiln]

waifu mons unite!

Hatterene
gardevoir
Lopunny
Pheramosa
Gothletta
Goodra
Salazzle
Lurantis

[silver ginkgo]

Im not voting toxicroak since im 90% sure we are gonna get greninja. Its the most voted mon before devs pulled him from the voting because he was too dominating.

[zinc cave]

cuz theres like over 50k people here and most of them probably arent in this chat but quite a few prolly voted

[hard kiln]

it has that mommy feel. so cuddly.

[cyan hare]

ew

[hard kiln]

i voted heavily for toxicroak. he my boy. i also voted heavy for scrafty.

[rough hound]

Counterarguement

[zinc cave]

it is huggable wouldnt say mommy tho

[silver ginkgo]

Hattrenevisnt in the running, gardevoir and lopunny is already in and goodra as a waifu mon?

[rough hound]

Bro doesnt know 😭

[hard kiln]

there's...alot of waifu mon... alot...
The plant mantis is also a waifu mon.

[uneven python]

What gen of starters are in game so far? Cuz I'd love to see gen 9 starters added and the crazy fuzions that could come from them.

[cyan hare]

I just want people to vote for aesthetics

[silver ginkgo]

Scrafty is also great. A lot of fusion oppurtunities with big pant

[hard kiln]

lurantis is DEFINITELY a waifu pokemon.

[hard kiln]

scrafty the hoodlum, pangoro the bancho, they would open so many 'bad boy' styles for pokemon.

[rough hound]

Another counterarguement to your earlier statement about toxicroak

[uneven python]

Marshadow and Zeraora would be cool too

[silver ginkgo]

Nah vote for gameplay. Give me huge power, weather abilities, contrary etc.

[hard kiln]

for the bros.

[uneven python]

nice

[zinc cave]

i really hope ultra beasts are allowed past the scarlet and violet border

[silver ginkgo]

I just realized how much scrafty resembles monster kid from undertale.

[hard kiln]

you already have huge power D:<

[rough hound]

YEAAAAAAH

[silver ginkgo]

Yeah but i want MORE.

[hard kiln]

also, Scrafty fusions speak for themselves.

[rough hound]

U right u right

[thin thicket]

he's a part of the show

[hard kiln]

Greedy! I also want more so i'm not stopping you

[zinc cave]

i thinnk out of all the waifu mon i'd like gothitelle the most, just to get all the cool fusions it can make

[sterile spoke]

Still rooting hard for this group (except Victini, that could be replaced with something else). 🙂

[silver ginkgo]

Scrafty+blacephalon or unown

[hard kiln]

half the scrafty fusions would just be mimikyu style 'i'm gonna wear it' fusions, and i love it.

[rough hound]

Nah, best waifu mon is meloetta

[sterile spoke]

Don't vote for fusions based on reference potential. Remember that they get alted. 😅

[hard kiln]

unown, for sure.

[zinc cave]

meloetta is a good one too

[thin thicket]

half of the top row already in

[hard kiln]

meloetta opens up so much fun fusion options and material. Also, Meloetta is also a waifu mon.

[sterile spoke]

I know, that's why they're there. 😛

Also it's 80%, not half. 😂

Sableye would have been there anyway though, because it's a great addition. 😉

[zinc cave]

i just want as many ultra beasts as possible tbh

[rough hound]

As a singer myself, meloetta is such a cool mon

[sterile spoke]

I want none of them. 🙂

[sterile spoke]

I think we'll be getting all or none of them, too. Almost definitely none. 😅

[hard kiln]

a little of column A, a little of column B

[thin thicket]

I want my boy in.

[zinc cave]

they each have different slots so its not like its a group package

[rough hound]

AYYYY, WE GOT A MOD ON TEAM TOXICROAK LETS GO

Oops, forgot to turn off ping. My bad

[zinc cave]

plus the 1 slotters are great, weird interesting designs that make unique fusions, all round they work

[hard kiln]

i still wish ursaluna was an option. ursaring needs it's momma

[zinc cave]

bro pheramosa volcarona would be magestic as hell

[silver ginkgo]

Blacephalon+unknown

[stiff island]

Do y'all know when the results will be up?

[thin thicket]

bruh is chosen one

[hard kiln]

pheramosa + milotic would be sheer beauty

[zinc cave]

it would actually prolly look like that ngl

[hard kiln]

pheramosa + volcarona

[rough hound]

I fear what the community will do with waifu mons ngl. These ones are super cool, but the power the degenerates hold scares me

[zinc cave]

yeh but without boobs

[thin thicket]

hold up

[hard kiln]

AS IT SHOULD! xD

[raw bison]

Questioning Salazzles absence from this list

[hard kiln]

Adding Salazzle now

[raw bison]

The Britney Spears Toxic Music Video Lizard thanks you

[old bluff]

Add Lurantis

[zinc cave]

buzzwole is my favourite waifu mon clearly

[hard kiln]

done

[zinc cave]

only female mosquitos can suck blood after all

[hard kiln]

i forgot about that fact, and that just made buzzswole better in my opinion xD

[raw bison]

We need a husbando pokemon group for balance obviously. Buzzwole, Therian Thundurus and the other two, who else

[sterile spoke]

That Smeargle's really nice. 😄

[rough hound]

Whelp, i didnt realize the time and it is now 4:30am. If yall see me back here within the next hour, yell at me to go to bed

[zinc cave]

just wait till this thing pulls up on you

[hard kiln]

Regiswole: You bout to get sucked.

me:...pause.

Regiswole: I'm gonna juice ya!

[thin thicket]

little drifloon

[zinc cave]

Salazwole and Deliswole

[hard kiln]

the idea of seeing a Blacephalon giving out drifloons to wandering children just terrifies me.

[hard kiln]

yes yes yes

[zinc cave]

makes sense since its pennywise

[thin thicket]

if we did have wigglet

[raw bison]

Are toxic toxicroak and scrafty Husbando material mons, or am I stretching? There's so many waifu bait, Im ryna find masc counterparts for equality

[thin thicket]

sock puppet

[hard kiln]

nah, you're in the right zone.

[zinc cave]

https://tenor.com/view/buzzwole-mouscoto-massivoon-ronflex-snorlax-gif-19838216

[raw bison]

Oh, Zeraora is definitely one, add catboy in there

[hard kiln]

i must now go rest for a bit. i shall see you all later. ciao.

[thin thicket]

I got to go now too, yall don't have too much fun

[zinc cave]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/338/491/f08.gif

i realize buzzwole is technically a mosquito centaur

[raw bison]

And Pangoro can work for the same reasons Goodra can be a waifu, so the Husbando Alliance would be the following:
Thundurus/Landorus/Tornadus
Buzzwole
Zeraora
Pangoro
Toxicroak
And Scrafty

[zinc cave]

minus buzzwole remember

[raw bison]

Not nearly as diverse a cast as the waifumons but it's decent

[raw bison]

Buzzwole may be biologically female as a mosquito but I respect their Masc/butch presentation and include them on principle for going so hard

[zinc cave]

sawk and troh also kinda fit

[raw bison]

Oh, and Hariyama

[zinc cave]

and passimian and oranguru are kinda human like

conkeldurr too

[raw bison]

I don't think they've got the chutzpa to count as husbandos

And I'll acknowledge that there are some folks out there who see a muscle clown and get hot and bothered but I don't want to think about that

[zinc cave]

yeah thats valid they are definitely chutzpa deficient

[zinc cave]

yeah some pokemon fans are uh, wild

[raw bison]

There are folks who are into Pennywise, it ain't Pokemons fault its just humans are w e i r d

[zinc cave]

and that one dude who is attracted to cars

[raw bison]

Yeah humans have the dual abilities of a very intense sex drive and rhe ability to empathize with anything and everything and the results are wild and unconscionable

[wintry imp]

Victini!

The V is for Very Boring

[sterile spoke]

Do you want me to make a case against these Pokémon? 😦

[zinc cave]

oh god blacephalon and deoxys would be wild

[trail hull]

Machamp was already cursed we don’t need more

[clever atlas]

Howdy!
A quick reminder to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[sterile spoke]

I'm going to campaign hard for Frogman to not add any potential Rule 2 breakers.

[raw bison]

I'm just saying there's plenty if thirst traps for the players attracted to feminine presentations so we should at least acknowledge their masculine counterparts

[zinc cave]

have people really broken that rule before with some of these? cuz thats wild

[wintry imp]

Ahem.

Of the two jellyfish pokemon on offer (these being the Jellicent line and Nhilego), I believe that Nhilego should be able to get in, due to;

a. It only takes up a single slot compared to the two taken by the Jellicent line (4 if we include both colours)

b. It having much more interesting lore (it's one of the "faces" of the Ultra Beasts, due to it's prominence during S/US/M/UM's plot)

c. Could make for an interesting mix of both aquatic fusions as well as those more directly related to space. Additionally, fusions regarding the horror elements it brings to the table.

[zinc cave]

i support all ultrabeasts 300%

[dim wadi]

okay ill just say it
why is goodra in the middle of all this its just a goopy dragon, itd be a big shame if this whole evolution line was removed because people are weird about it (+goomy and sligoo are cute)

[raw bison]

People be thirsty for all kinds of things, and it's people who break the rules, not the pokemon themselves.

[wintry imp]

^

[zinc cave]

i do find the people who thirst for goodra kinda weird, like huggable yeh but the same way you hug a dog or a pet

[silver ginkgo]

Agreed. Unlike regis who i really wish i could vote seperatly, i wouldnt have actually be mad if all ubs were voted as a group since they are all awesome.

[wintry imp]

The reason Pokémon like Gardevoir and Lopunny have the reputation they do is directly because of the people who want to thirst. It's the same with Goodra.

Frankly it's the same with a lot of Pokémon. Humans in general are just fucking weird.

[zinc cave]

preach brother

[white meadow]

Y not
Tsareena could come in
Castform
Etc

[sterile spoke]

Yes, and very overtly so. 😦

[wintry imp]

Yikes

[dim wadi]

i just cant see it but fair enough
itd be just sad if these mons are removed from voting because weirdos

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[silver ginkgo]

I thibk its because of the wet goo its covered in.

[wintry imp]

Castform is an absolute no

But not in the way Crabominable is

[zinc cave]

i feel like milktank is probably the biggest criminal of this

[raw bison]

Goodra is cute, vaguely feminine, thicc with at least two cs, and then...yeah, the goo doesn't help. But if people can't control themselves that's their problem, not everyone elses

Insert the Bible verse about gouging out your eyes if they lead you to sin, etc

[clever atlas]

People who see castform and go booba are some of the dumbest, i swear

[silver ginkgo]

Crabominable might have decent fusions. It has a unique colour scheme and yeti and abominable snowman fusions might be cool. I think castform is way worse.

[dim wadi]

:(

[sterile spoke]

Oh, it used to be Gardevoir, but we got rid of a lot of them. 😅

[zinc cave]

like the japanese name for magmar is boober for its head

also that makes a lot of sense as well

[wintry imp]

This does not surprise me lol

But I don't think Pokemon should be locked out because people have no control of themselves.

[trail hull]

The mon shouldn’t be prevented from being added because people are weird about it , we should just regulate the fusions

[silver ginkgo]

Dont tell me miltank+magmar fusion references that...

[zinc cave]

i dont want to find out personally

[raw bison]

Same, maybe up the mod staff if you're worried about a flood of degeneracy being a pain to deal with

[sterile spoke]

We get like 8,000 sprites a month now. Regulating that is untenable unless people flag things with us, even if we tripled the staff. 😦

Why add a problem child when there are 400 non-problem children to choose from? 😂

[zinc cave]

i usually prefer humanoid pokemon designs over all and ignoring the thirst for them i do think that waifu mons are some of the best designs aesthetically
tho i'd prolly say my favourite pokemon are definitely not waifus

[raw bison]

What if instead you had like a flag on whatever automatically works with em that flagged "problematic" mons for manual review

[raw bison]

And cause it's...well, it's kind of like victim blaming? Not the mons fault people break rules

[silver ginkgo]

Regulation... pokemon propaganda might be getting close to actual propaganda

[zinc cave]

whimsicott and toxtricity are my fave so shame they arent galar mons yet

[sterile spoke]

I think victim blaming is an excessive force of language. 😂

[sterile spoke]

Whimsicott's from Unova and already in IF, though... 😛

[trail hull]

But it’s a wholesome propaganda

[zinc cave]

exactly i can relax and be happy that what ever result i get more cool whimsicott fusions

[raw bison]

I mean yeah they're designs not real people but it's still punishing people who've not done anything wrong (wholesome enjoyers) for the actions of other people

Not a one to one by any means but you get what I mean I hope?

[sterile spoke]

Honestly, lots of people who want these Pokémon in already have expressed that they want to make fusions like that (or at least ones that'd push the boat). 😅

Personally, I'd like Salazzle and Goodra to be in, but they're more trouble than they're worth. 😦

Goodra especially. 😢

[trail hull]

I know it’s up to staff to decide , but I hope they stay

[white meadow]

I know

[sterile spoke]

This is assuming they get the votes. 😛

[zinc cave]

its by vote aint it?

i do think that in the end vote theyll prolly be at least 2 waifu mon maybe 3

[trail hull]

Also maybe we could try to do a contest of said problematic mon to see how the community handle them

[sterile spoke]

Yes and no. I assume Frogman will cherry pick from the top candidates rather than going "these are the top 20, so they're in". 😅

[dim wadi]

im quite surprised by this tbh

[sterile spoke]

So am I, sadly. 😢

I didn't even consider Goodra to be a potential Rule 2 red flag until this vote started. 😭

[white meadow]

I hate that Salazzle is so feminim since it could have been cool, like our Male evo pic 2
It is cool to fuse tho pic one

[zinc cave]

ah thats a shame, well i hope still some get in

[raw bison]

I mean as someone who is not attracted to salazzle I still like the strong femme Fatale energy, being Gaslight/Gatekeep/Girlboss is part of her appeal

[wintry imp]

Free coffee for you Blaquaza

[sterile spoke]

I coded (but didn't design) an alternate evolution for it called Repiratile, where it's a Poison/Dragon pirate. 😄

[white meadow]

Show me pls
Ps: the one in the pic is Komonium a Poison/Ground type

[zinc cave]

im glad at least goodra is less easy to make into a rule 2 problem considering its not overtly feminine or humanoid for that matter

but there are some weird goodra fans out there

[sterile spoke]

I can't, I haven't designed it. 😢

[raw bison]

It's the thighs and the slime that'll make it dangerous, goodra got a booty

[white meadow]

Misread sorry

[zinc cave]

everything has a butt that doesnt make every living thing attractive

[silver ginkgo]

Same but with marowak.

[lime sorrel]

Honestly agreed

[wintry imp]

I think, in the end

Theres always going to be someone who's gonna be disappointed with the eventual results.

[raw bison]

It's not a unicersal or incredibly common type for people to have but it -is- a type

[zinc cave]

i think at the very least the top 3 should get in no matter what other wise whats the point of a vote

[silver ginkgo]

I mean yeah, there is like 30 pokemon i want. Even if every pick is made by me ill be disapointed.

[zinc cave]

or like top 2

[wintry imp]

Mhmm. I really wanted the Rowlet line (I love the owl pokemon) but I understand it's not getting in anytime soon. There's a bunch of Pokemon that I really want, not just for me but for my friends as well.

But the likelyhood of many of them getting in... is thin. So I'll just have to roll with the punches.

[raw bison]

Oh for sure, even picking a personal top twenty was painful, but ibdont want to see some of my all time favorites completely discarded because people can be weird when we already have Gardevoir anyway

[wintry imp]

I completely agree.

[zinc cave]

i do believe that the sussy ones can be a problem but i still will never be a fan of dealing with something that may happen, aint that like the whole message of minority report? (i think thats the movie)

[silver ginkgo]

Im hoping at least 6 pokemon i like gets i so i can make a team out of them. They dont have to be my top 6 picks, just 6 pokemon i like.

[raw bison]

Errybody else got their favorite waifu, lemme have my Stan Salazzle

[wintry imp]

I guess we'll just have to see what happens. Next pokemon get announced in the next couple days anyway, presumably.

[zinc cave]

mhmm cuz every pokemon is someones fave even waifu mons for wholesome reasons, tho i def think mod audtions/scouting is in order too just because it seems like a big workload

[silver ginkgo]

Im wondering if the starters are in the running at all. They were pulled from the voting but they were overwhelmingly popular.

[wintry imp]

They aren't, but they might be added later on because they were so popular

[zinc cave]

like i mod for a decently big vtuber and ooof the chat going that fast is overwhelming most of the time

[trail hull]

They said they’ll come eventually

[zinc cave]

yeh plus 9 slots is ALOT when you only got 20

[raw bison]

I do think setting up a flag for manual review is a nice compromise

[white meadow]

Btw to the fakemon there
||Komonium
The Toxic King Pokemon
Weight: 180 kg
Size: 3,5 Meters
Komonium work in Groups made of Salandit's to neutralize toxic waste. Its Venom can dissolve a whole Truck.||

[zinc cave]

mhmm but thats also like a lot of work too because the waifu mons from what ive seen is also the most sprited for i cant imagine how many of them have already been deleted

[alpine rune]

3.5 meters... weigh 180kg
Bro thats skinny

[zinc cave]

also it would make no sense to be that big, with species like that sexual dimorphism really prevents that from happening

[white meadow]

Pokemon arent heavy normaly

[zinc cave]

same way female angler fishes are like 10 times the size of the male one

[white meadow]

But i can go up

[alpine rune]

yea but thats like wailord levels of absurd tho

[zinc cave]

if a salandit did have a male evo it would almost need to be smaller than a salazzle

[raw bison]

Yeah, it'd be annoying but setting them behind a "must be approved" wall is more fair than just walling them off entirely but still makes it so the unabashed thirst doesn't make it to the game and traumatize any children

[kind forum]

i just checked mine, overweight

[silver ginkgo]

Its not that absurd i think, its probably snake like with a thin and long torso

[raw bison]

To be fair BMI is bullpucky anyway, and reptiles notoriously have less bodyfat

[zinc cave]

the little thing sticking out from the bottom is a male angler fish

[alpine rune]

I cant comment otherwise people will start calling me fatphobic not that im not already

[kind forum]

im going to blame my absurd height and say the calculator is wrong 😛

[alpine rune]

Yea go with that :d

[kind forum]

[white meadow]

Also the 3.5m is length for it since reptile on all 4 most of the time

[zinc cave]

the bmi thing is flawed anyway i was physically muscular and healthy and it said i was underweight

[clever atlas]

Big boned

[steady mountain]

BMI has never worked

[raw bison]

I literally did not exist on the dumb bmi chart as a kid and people told me that was "better than being on the other end" and now I'm learning I was probably chronically ill the whole time

[steady mountain]

Thinks I’m the picture of health. I’m not.

[zinc cave]

plus you cant forget, muscle is denser than fat, so most significantly built people are overweight according to bmi

[raw bison]

Yeah same had a friend going "oh I'm so jealous" and I'm like "I literally think I'm dying bro wtf"

[alpine rune]

Welp, I guess

[zinc cave]

but no way would it be over double the size of a salazzle

[alpine rune]

[raw bison]

And lizard length would probably include the tail

[zinc cave]

I'd give a male salandit evo 1 meter tops

[silver ginkgo]

Heres my needlesly detailed tierlist with every pokemon individually contemplated.

[zinc cave]

i think a male combee evo tho to represent a worker bee MUCH more compelling

[alpine rune]

Yea I just checked, komodo dragons have less bmi scale. I just assumed it was humanoid

[alpine rune]

but worker bees are females.

[raw bison]

It'd be fun to see a male salandit Evo that was like gay/ace/Trans rep, like it wasn't interested in serving the females and the evolution reflected that somehow

[raw bison]

Bees technicallybhave three sexes, but worker is more similar to female than male. It's just humans trying to fit em into the same binary we're used to

[zinc cave]

oh yeh true, which one are the males again? drones?

[silver ginkgo]

Rest are good but komala? seriously?

[alpine rune]

Imagine using comatose on a strong mon

immune to sleep, and can use sleep moves

Snorlax would be bonkers

[raw bison]

Bee sexes are queens, drone, or worker, and drones are the ones that match our perception of males

[silver ginkgo]

sounds interesting but is there any good moves other than rest

also i fear there will be too many body pillow fusions

[zinc cave]

yee fitting human concepts to non human things are rarely linear

[alpine rune]

theres already body pillow sudowoodo

Also if its nsfw the staff wouldve picked on it already

[zinc cave]

isnt komala's real body the wood?

[silver ginkgo]

İsnt the wood its pillow?

[zinc cave]

i thought i heard that somewhere im prolly wrong lemme look at the dex

[alpine rune]

Sleep talk with comatose without sleeping be like

[old bluff]

The best list

[zinc cave]

yeah nah its not the wood

[silver ginkgo]

thats just sounds like randomly selecting a move with extra steps

[alpine rune]

OOOOO

ITS BETTER THAN I THOUGHT

[zinc cave]

my question is how the parents find a log to give if they're asleep, better yet how do the the parents even well, become parents if they are asleep

[raw bison]

Komala being the log is one of those theories people like to tosd about, but I think the only supporting evidence was that the log changes color on the shiny, not the actual mon

[sterile spoke]

Lucky for you, I did a very quick design sketch. 😛

[alpine rune]

Thats just komo-o

[zinc cave]

huh how?

[sterile spoke]

I don't think you know what Kommo-o looks like. 😂

[zinc cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-10730821

[remote ibex]

Red komo

[silver ginkgo]

Its immune to status conditions, can use rest as much as it wants and can use snore and sleep talk without going to sleep.

[sterile spoke]

It doesn't look anything like Kommo-o. 😂

It's literally a traced Salazzle with edited proportions.

[white meadow]

i don't think it can use rest?

[silver ginkgo]

Its face and proportions kinda does

[sterile spoke]

It's face is Salazzle's face. 😂

It's just a more broad Salazzle. 😛

[zinc cave]

kommo-o's face is shaped like an axe head tho

[silver ginkgo]

Its fusions could

[alpine rune]

People complain that Good as Gold and Purifying salt is overpowered, but look at Comatose. The only reason its not top tier is because its on a shit mon

[sterile spoke]

Exactly. 😂

[remote ibex]

As a person who started investing more time into pokemon since alola that is a kommo-o

[white meadow]

how? isn't the ability the one that prevents it to use rest?

[silver ginkgo]

I dont think so it doesnt learn the move rest.

[silver ginkgo]

okay so its even weaker than i tought. ıts immune to status and can use snore thats about it.

[zinc cave]

pm yep

if it was that strong it would be used more in comp

[spring abyss]

Claydolbros where u at

[zinc cave]

cuz infinite fullrestore kinda op

well not infinite cuz pp but close

[alpine rune]

Yea but with fusions, anything goes. Fuse it with someone who learns Slack off be like:

[frozen lotus]

where can i download the latest version of the game?

[alpine rune]

#downloads also why ask here not general?

[zinc cave]

honestly end of the day i really just am curious to see what gets in in the end, and i hope it aint cherry picked too much, cuz the illusion of choice is a lil scummy

if a pokemon cant be chosen it shouldnt have been in the options is my mindset

[alpine rune]

that's called democracy my guy

[silver ginkgo]

yeah but who wants to stall in a pve game. there are so many more fun possible combos, technician double iron bash, contrary v-create, prankster spore, steel stab + steelworker, tail glow + simple etc.

[white meadow]

well sleep talk + any move that forces a switch with comatose sounds very trolley

[zinc cave]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[alpine rune]

Look, if I was talking about competitive, I'd be using this fucker:

[spring abyss]

I think it’s just important to temper your expectations if you’re shilling for something that isn’t too popular baaically

Half my picks haven’t a hope but I still voted for them

[white meadow]

ye i gave masquerain a 3 but that's all i can do

[zinc cave]

yeh some of mine dont have as much a chance, like bewear, i love it but i know its not popular enough

https://tenor.com/view/bewear-bewear-kick-bewear-anime-bewear-pokemon-gif-25525538

[alpine rune]

Like every other people here, I just wanna try out things that's fun for me. I don't mind if komala or any of my picks come into the game really, but that's the point of playing the game. Not that I want to play competitively, I just dont find any fun of steamrolling every NPC with Huge Power Thick Club Slaking

[sterile spoke]

I wish Bewear could be included. 😢

[zinc cave]

my brother

[sterile spoke]

I think I voted for all of the bear Pokémon, because I want for Pangoro and Beartic as well. 😛

[silver ginkgo]

Okay I was just checking bulbapedia and appearantly light of ruin is effected by rock head, is there any way we can get eternal flower floette or floette line learning this move?

[alpine rune]

If ultra beast is going in, Bewear must come in too XD

[sterile spoke]

We need Fighting and Ice-types, and they have great designs. 🙂

[spring abyss]

Nobody but me is gonna vote for durant but on the other hand I know I’m gonna see tyrantrum for sure

[zinc cave]

pangoro would be so good with the delinquen designs

plus pandas are cool

[glossy osprey]

Finally, a drapion enjoyer

[zinc cave]

AND SNORLAX PANGORO NEEDS TO BE HOLDING A STICK OF BAMBOO

[white meadow]

maybe with one of the tutors? meh if i wanted a strong fairy move i would have just picked magearna with contrary instead of taking 3 slots

[thin thicket]

Change my mind staying up for an all nighter

[thin thicket]

I want to see what you guys got

[silver ginkgo]

only contrary we have right now is freakin shuckle, its painful

[alpine rune]

? u mean list?

[thin thicket]

Yeah

[zinc cave]

i actually wanna see Ranmaru Rindou

[alpine rune]

ah fair

[zinc cave]

totally not jotaro

https://tenor.com/view/anime-kill-la-kill-fight-club-mako-mako-mankanshoku-gif-12416693

[thin thicket]

Also quick question. How are they going to prevent someone from making mutliple account and just rigging the votes? I just don't want to have my vote mean nothing, just because someone did that, and I think that's kind of petty

[zinc cave]

with 50k+ people they'd have to make thousands of accounts just to have a push

its like adding a couple of grains of sand to a beach

[silver ginkgo]

why did you drop down malamar? So much power, so much design oppurtunities...

[zinc cave]

would malamar and hitmontop just be rightside up?

[alpine rune]

idk either but lets hope not. as far as im aware, there no groups made (Besides the NGS team guy) who rally an entire scandal campaign

[spring abyss]

I think having the option to make scorpion Pokémon is completely untapped potential so he’d be a great addition

[alpine rune]

and the NGS team guy wasnt made to rigg the elections, they are just very passionate

[thin thicket]

That's good I just hope everyone just get a fair chance

[zinc cave]

im personally a VERY big poison pokemon fan

[alpine rune]

I forgot to get that context out

[silver ginkgo]

It would probably be spinning on its squid head like a beyblade

[alpine rune]

I uhh favor lurantis more cuz psychic is a bad secondary thats all.

No offense, I like the funny little bug more. I forgot that funny little bug has contrary

[silver ginkgo]

fair, i got both of them in my top 10.

[zinc cave]

now i match with my own voting name

[thin thicket]

Do you think people are more like to Pokémon with a unique move than to one that doesn't?

[alpine rune]

I do at least

[thin thicket]

Like brutixish has psychic fang

[silver ginkgo]

I am, but most people prioritise design over moves.

[silver ginkgo]

not that one tho

[zinc cave]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-fish-uk-fish-teeth-fish-justin-discord-justin-fish-pokemon-gif-22340848

i hate that its flower bud on top opens

[silver ginkgo]

girafarig, sharpedo and stoutland also get psychic fangs.

[thin thicket]

Mind blownliterally causes a giant firework display, and does a lot of damage, but I don't know if there be any other interesting moves to be included.

[zinc cave]

isnt blacephalon the only ultrabeast to get a unique move?

[silver ginkgo]

of the top of my head plasma fists, solar blade, steam eruption etc. combine them with iron fist, drought, serene grace and you have an excellent combo.

[thin thicket]

Well that's something I didn't think about...huh...guess another reason why he's cool.

[alpine rune]

I dont speak on behalf on spriters mainly i got the role to just post the ninjask I drew but the reason people picked solgaleo and lunala despite the wasted slots on cosmoem and cosmog is because of well, they want to draw space/galaxy fusions. Same goes with Necrozma, bruxish and stakataka because well theyre colorful and so fun to draw and imagine

[zinc cave]

dude the french name for blacephalon is actually peak naming

[thin thicket]

What about vesiqueen moves?

I know she has like 3 unique moves.

[zinc cave]

Pierroteknik
pierrot pyrotechnics

I usually name Blacephalon gumball but i think ill name mine Pierrot if it gets in the game

[silver ginkgo]

I think bug type fusions get those through the special tutor. at least beedrill does.

[thin thicket]

Really?

[alpine rune]

People tend to see mons like mudsdale, beartic, or even castform as boring even if they have unique abilities

[thin thicket]

There are some weird ones as well... like forest curse.

[silver ginkgo]

beartic has a cool ability but im not gonna vote it before any snow warning pokemon gets in.

[thin thicket]

Or pumpkaboo move I can't remember the name.

[modest quiver]

i think the majority just care for the custom sprite potential.
i personally picked mons depending on their gameplay potential as fusion materials. however i avoided things that would make too broken fusions
i like both approaches it makes for a variety of votes

[alpine rune]

TRUEEE

[zinc cave]

mudsdale is cool but anything you can do with it you can do with rapidash or for beartic ursaring

[alpine rune]

btw out of 3 choices, what snow warning mon do you prefer?

[zinc cave]

bear wise i'd def prefer bewear and pangoro

[silver ginkgo]

ghost type pokemon gets forest curse and trick or treat through the special move tutor...

[silver ginkgo]

aurorus, nice colour scheme, frills, gems and refrigrate. abomasnow is a close second.

[modest quiver]

need at least 1 snow setter

there are 2 ice specialist bosses and i couldnt give them hail

[thin thicket]

What about the flower Pokémon one?

[alpine rune]

Im fine with either 3 at least, I'm hopeful for aurorus because people seem to like it more

[thin thicket]

Do you think they might add light of ruins?

[zinc cave]

weird question but what boss trainers would you wanna see in infinite fusion?

[spring abyss]

Fox-draws at tumblr is the source for this also

[zinc cave]

besides the clear obvious first choice of cynthia if she isnt already in it, i havent explored enough

[alpine rune]

yknow, Modern mode Misty and E4 Lorelei could benefit from hail teams

[hearty tendon]

Steven Stone

[silver ginkgo]

I also want torkoal and pelipper too. I love using weather abilities and tired of constantly using the same 4

[modest quiver]

ive heard cynthia is in but also disappears after a certain point

[old bluff]

nice changes

[zinc cave]

steven would love to give the rock and steel type to as many pokemon as possible

[alpine rune]

Youre only saying "nice" because I moved lurantis on top of my priority 😂

[modest quiver]

so if she had an endgame rematch it would need some thinking

[zinc cave]

Alder would be cool too he's one of my fave champions

[old bluff]

exactly

[hearty tendon]

Steven's whole team would die to earthquake

[alpine rune]

Also Give me the damn lurantis "posters" I'm spreading it now

[zinc cave]

levitate or flying

[old bluff]

i finish the quest in genshin and i will make one

[hearty tendon]

True, we need Zygarde to complete counter steven

[silver ginkgo]

i think he had skarmory and claydoll

[thin thicket]

We need a clown boss trainer

[zinc cave]

geeta, shes a joke

[alpine rune]

It'll be just mrmime/legendary fusions

[thin thicket]

I know

[alpine rune]

😭

[thin thicket]

Terrifying already

[silver ginkgo]

I really want him to hold a candy cane as an actual cane, what fusion would have that? we dont have mr rime so maybe marowak?

[zinc cave]

who sends out kingambit almost first and glimorra last

[zinc cave]

definitely conkeldurr off the top of my head, or farfetch'd

[thin thicket]

He does have a point

[zinc cave]

any pokemon that hold- MAROWAK LINE

[thin thicket]

Scolipede already in tho

[silver ginkgo]

thats why marowak is the best

they are still posting it tho

[livid geyser]

hey i can get you the raw png version of uncle sam!timagius if you want to add that too

[zinc cave]

who would be the fusion to make blacephalon a jester?

[spring abyss]

I love using marowak, ran through with Marowak + Kyurem on NG+ once such a cool looking ‘mon

[alpine rune]

Im changing abomasnow

[thin thicket]

Mimikyu

[silver ginkgo]

mr mime?

[zinc cave]

YEAH thats def the one either mr mime or mimikyu

mimikyu would be pretty awesome

[iron quartz]

so kasane is a vocaloid

[zinc cave]

mimikyu blacephalon

[silver ginkgo]

I havent see anyone until now suggest the tapus.

[zinc cave]

i think a lot of people consider it too many slots

[alpine rune]

i like the terrains

[alpine rune]

yea this but then they vote for solgaleo

[zinc cave]

yeah that also is a lot of slots

[alpine rune]

yup

[hearty tendon]

Everyone vote for the starters tbh

[livid geyser]

puruglyganda now with more transparent timagius action

[zinc cave]

i didnt vote a single group of starters ngl

[alpine rune]

imo its worse because comog and cosmoem are literally just magikarps, they add literal nothing gameplay wise

[zinc cave]

nah nah you know whats the WORST use of slots?

[hearty tendon]

We should delete every pokemon with a bst lower than 400

[alpine rune]

I wish solgaleo and lunala didnt come with the pre evos

[silver ginkgo]

Its the most extreme case of design>gameplay

[livid geyser]

mitte mitte kochichi

[alpine rune]

yuh

[zinc cave]

4 slots for this one bird

[alpine rune]

true

[thin thicket]

That is kind of over the top...

[alpine rune]

also yes, kasane teto is a utauloid

[zinc cave]

i think oricorio is probably the least wanted pokemon for this

[livid geyser]

who knows, they could easily make it one slot with a random secondary typing and alt bases.

[pale mortar]

Poodle time anyone?

[silver ginkgo]

will meloettes transformation work like aegislashes? only in stats and not in sprite? I guess you could add dancer as an altarnate sprite.

[thin thicket]

What that dog doing?

[pale mortar]

Or grass Dino? Can be reunited with meganium like in the anime

[zinc cave]

not being voted by me personally

[silver ginkgo]

you should add the occasional guy who is posting propaganda for one of the most unpopular pokemon because that is their favorite.

[pale mortar]

Or fire lion!!!!

[iron quartz]

i dont get it

[zinc cave]

im also not to big on pyroar perssonally

[alpine rune]

no

[iron quartz]

@alpine rune whats the joke

[thin thicket]

Too much simba

[zinc cave]

hot take anything pyroar can do for the fusion potential luxray can do better

[alpine rune]

the joke is you expressed (via online at least) your support to meloetta a bit too loud

[livid geyser]

anything pyroar can do is something arcanine already does

[silver ginkgo]

except referencing lysander

[iron quartz]

how tf tho :/
also whats the free slot

[zinc cave]

scolipede line

[thin thicket]

Does that they would have to include a female variant?

[zinc cave]

prolly an alt

[thin thicket]

Of the lion one?

[alpine rune]

Then it became this

[zinc cave]

arcanine + luxray should e a pyroar

[iron quartz]

why was 017 even that meme???

[zinc cave]

cuz hair same

[alpine rune]

because it was funny but people say it brok the TOS

[marsh pelican]

Awh hell yeah

[zinc cave]

cant wait to evolve my celestia ludenberg

[iron quartz]

ITS NOT EVEN funny
i dont get it

[marsh pelican]

Venipede line was one of the mons I wanted the most!

[zinc cave]

humor is subjective

[iron quartz]

whats the punchline tho

[formal venture]

Spare a vote for the goodest of boys/girls : Zigzagoon please 😭

[alpine rune]

little girls calling out lolicons is never not funny to me

no offense

[thin thicket]

Micheal Jackson prodigy

[iron quartz]

thats it?
i expected more

[zinc cave]

https://tenor.com/view/bewear-bewear-kick-bewear-anime-bewear-pokemon-gif-25525538

[alpine rune]

Also I cant find a safe Gothorita meme so:

[iron quartz]

Bewear

[alpine rune]

people in the internet are down horrendous

[zinc cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pheromosa-bewear-punch-oof-gif-27434920

[silver ginkgo]

children saying stuff they shouldnt say is generaly funny. havent you ever tought your little siblings/cousins swear words?

[zinc cave]

nah since i dont swear

[thin thicket]

Mothertrucker dude

[zinc cave]

only reason i dont swear is because i find it funny why people get upset i dont and then it just never became part of my vocab

[thin thicket]

Oh no....

[silver ginkgo]

I only want heatran because i love the magcargo fusions but magcargo is super weak and heatran seems like the best alternative.

[white meadow]

Its inapired of the biggest Monitor Lizards
He is the Toxic KING
He is meant to carry heavy stuff to the nest and be the main fighter for protection

[thin thicket]

Pink phirana

[white meadow]

Cool
Maybe too literal tho

[plucky blaze]

Heatran is super cool looking, has amazing stats and movepool, and would make great fusions

[silver ginkgo]

bro dhelmise, clawtzer, meloetta and melmetal in boring?

[zinc cave]

mhmm it just doesnt make sense biologically, its a cool idea but it fits better as its own thing

[silver ginkgo]

im only worried that it looks too much like a piece of poo

[regal vault]

Why claydol is in boring

[thin thicket]

Heatran is cool, he's got buffed up fire spin

[white meadow]

Btw its from a Regional Salandit

[plucky blaze]

How are Meloetta and Melmetal not some of the most uninspired pokemons in the entire series?

[thin thicket]

It looks like it's having a seizure- ow my eyes

[spring abyss]

Oh that broke ashell but you get the idea

[white meadow]

ok what are the geines doing up there

[zinc cave]

i found this looking for ultra beast clips from the anime

[marsh lily]

Woman beater.

[plucky blaze]

Idk it kinda is useless

[white meadow]

wasn't that bewear a female too

[plucky blaze]

I'm a strat player

[marsh lily]

Woman brawl.

[sharp nebula]

bro is looking for a fight

[regal vault]

No

[zinc cave]

claydol would have a lot of unique fusions but im not a fan of it aesthetically

[plucky blaze]

I'm just not a degen, srry :s

[plucky blaze]

Ok you got a point

[thin thicket]

[

[zinc cave]

most un inspired pokemon is hard to say

[hearty tendon]

Unova monkeys

[zinc cave]

besides a lot of kanto but they get a pass because its the first game

[spring abyss]

Oh hell yes

[thin thicket]

oh my

[white meadow]

some of the gen 1 pokemon

[silver ginkgo]

If you are a strat player what is malamar, xurkitree and the weather mon in general doing down there?

[thin thicket]

actually that kind of looks like the unown unown fusion

[white meadow]

"hey what should we call this golem pokemon?" "yes"

[zinc cave]

plus grimer is sludge with eyes

[spring abyss]

I love my biblically accurate angel pkmn

[marsh lily]

oh dear

[zinc cave]

and caterpie is a 1 to 1 with an actual caterpillar

[white meadow]

Also our admins wouldnt have allowed it to get in if it was its own thing

[silver ginkgo]

you guys aint gonna believe it when i tell you about ekans and seel

[spring abyss]

Did you know if you read that pokemon’s name backwards it actually spells lees

[hearty tendon]

Wait till you hear about pidgey

[zinc cave]

yeah kanto is def the most un inspired gen, ill still give it the pass just cuz it was the first and cant expect perfection on your first try

[silver ginkgo]

Bro

[thin thicket]

did you know that is spell grimer evolution backward...imma stop there....

[zinc cave]

actually you know whats the most recent un inspired mon is? Pawmi line

[marsh lily]

The Pawmi line sucks.

[hearty tendon]

It's the same pokemon 3 times

[marsh lily]

2, I think. Pawmi and Pawmot.

[zinc cave]

bro stood up and got a hair do

[hearty tendon]

Isn't it a 3 stage line?

[marsh lily]

Oh. Three.

[thin thicket]

kind of look ugly

[marsh lily]

That sucks even more.

[hearty tendon]

Delete the middle one and it's a fine line

[zinc cave]

and even tho it evolves through walking it still skipped leg day

[spring abyss]

lmao when I played SV I intentionally didn’t spoil myself and when pawmi fully evolved I was like floored by how nothing it was

[hearty tendon]

Second and third stage look like forms

[silver ginkgo]

ıt was so generic bro couldt tell the second and third evo apart...

[marsh lily]

Wait. Pawmot. Is this thing meant to be a marmot?

[spring abyss]

Really should’ve been a 1->3 line and cut 2

[zinc cave]

cool move tho, revives a fallen party member

[marsh lily]

Exactly.

[white meadow]

i would rather just use the dung beetle

[hearty tendon]

Should have been 1->2 and 3 should have been a mega

[white meadow]

if only megas returned

[compact saffron]

I would like Victini to be in it so vote for him

[hearty tendon]

Like that's ever going to happen, we are going to get gen 6 remakes without megas

[toxic dock]

month is half over and we have no clue who the rest of the mons are that made it in

[plucky blaze]

Xurk is fun to play but ugly

[zinc cave]

i would want it to be just 1 pokemon tbh i only like the first stage not that 3rd looking like deviantart furry oc's chibi version

[white meadow]

i get that some pokemon were made stronger than they needed to be, but it was so fun seeing weak pokemon like sableye and mawile become actually viable

[thin thicket]

he not ugly unlike brutixish