pif-hoenn-discussion

[zenith relic]

Maybe? I don't know I never seen that show

[hollow grove]

so i soudnt have necrozma in it ok i chance it

[sturdy breach]

Froslass + Goodra + Meleotta, that's a big W for me.

[silk narwhal]

NOOOOOOOOO

[hollow grove]

lol

[atomic pawn]

remove pachirisu and shaymin, then its perfectly fine

[silk narwhal]

but you can't seriously want pachirisu, the worst pikaclone

[pale flame]

These really are the people we're letting vote on the future of Infinite Fusion

[prime stirrup]

I’m seeing a lack of good Pokémon, why?

[hollow grove]

thats because its not a pika clone its a squirrel

[pale flame]

Bcs Buizel and Floatzel are there 💀

[lusty oxide]

The worst pikaclone is clearly plusle and minum

[silk narwhal]

it's still a pikaclone

[sturdy breach]

The best is Emolga tbh

before SwSh tho

[alpine inlet]

Man I want exploud to be voted on for sole the reason that I want to see someone make a rotom/exploud fusion and it is the back to the future giant amplifier

[silk narwhal]

should i sprite this

[atomic pawn]

yes

[lusty oxide]

Absolutely

[sturdy breach]

Truthfully I think it doesn't look enough like Yveltal in this

[hollow grove]

you kids dont know what good pokemon are you guys grew up with gen 6 7 8 are weak

[night oracle]

how are the 2 kartana fusions youre doing going

[silk narwhal]

it has it's tail and hands, and the red

[atomic pawn]

says the one voted for ducking pachirisu 💀

[lusty oxide]

Looks more like a zekrom fusion instead of a yveltal fusion

[silk narwhal]

literally where do you see any zekrom

[atomic pawn]

it seemed like a zangoose necrozma fusion to me

[digital ferry]

Not quite ready for spritework yet, but they should hopefully be posted in another day or two ^^

[lusty oxide]

The main body shape looks like zekrom

[sturdy breach]

It's drowned out by the ultra necrozma of it all, I would saw the black of the normal Necrozma would be better (my honest opinion)

[silk narwhal]

💀

[oblique quail]

.

[night oracle]

nice

[silk narwhal]

shagaru magala is literally white and yellow

i mean, i could make gore, but still

[sturdy breach]

Maybe Yveltal wouldn't be the best fit for it with that in mind, as it is kind of the opposite of the menacing red and black it sports.
It feels like Yveltal is drowned out in this a bit too much, it is a very cool fusion though and I can see Yveltal in it after I knew it had Yveltal in it.
But that's me nitpicking an amazing design.

[prime stirrup]

Xerneas carries the pick for me

[viscid mica]

not putting the magala at the end was a bad idea i had to do a double take

[silk narwhal]

lmao

[white meadow]

are they releasing next pokemin todau?

[zenith relic]

Not yet

[viscid mica]

next is in approx 5 days

[alpine rune]

Yea now that I think about it, contrary on a grass type is better than dark or psychic.

[prime stirrup]

What did Pyroar do to you

[viscid mica]

are you editing your own or someone else's tier list, if its the latter thats insane bm

[craggy lynx]

Guy must have some sort of personal beef with Pyroar 💀

[prime stirrup]

Also why the Cherubi drop

[alpine rune]

that my own, im too lazy to go to the website again

[viscid mica]

aight good lmao

[alpine rune]

I find out it boost ATK and SPDEF not ATK and SPA

[alpine rune]

It wasnt the same since the lion gang attacked

[viscid mica]

also what does oranguru bring lmao

[prime stirrup]

Tbh I only voted for it for the fusions designs, granted I only voted 1

[regal vault]

Brings What do you mean?

[paper pasture]

I enjoy the implication that pyroar is bruxish

[prime stirrup]

Gothitelle, Komala, Zygarde, Salazzle, Oranguru and Golisopod in top tier is questionable

[alpine rune]

instruct and telepathy

[prime stirrup]

Instruct is a tutor move in this game, telepathy is available for lots of Pokémon too

[alpine rune]

also funny fan

[lusty oxide]

But it’s spelled bru’ish

[paper pasture]

Yknow what I'm glad druddigon at least evoked something in you, that means it's art

[viscid mica]

battle factory is not nearly relevant enough to boost him that high that's pure bias lmao

[sturdy breach]

I really can't get over it's weirdly jagged design and stupid red face 😄

[paper pasture]

He's my stupid Lego dragon

[sturdy breach]

The thing is based off of a plant, and isn't grass or poison type

[thorny ferry]

Bruxish for the win🫡🫡🫡🫡

[lusty oxide]

I love bru’ish

[alpine rune]

I dont think theres instruct in the game and only a few has telepathy... Infact...

[thorny ferry]

Bru'ish my beloved

[paper pasture]

Bru'ish a wa'er psychic type

[civic harness]

Well, personal preferences are an problem, but its your tier list

[alpine rune]

No, I just like playing doubles in the game. And yes, you can set every battle to 2v2 or even 3v3

[thorny ferry]

That's true bro'er

[viscid mica]

i think he means that the tutors in post game can teach it to pokemon, unsure though.

[viscid mica]

i did not know that, welp cant really say anything about that, gl to the orangutan ig

[alpine rune]

no, there's not :v

[mint fable]

Scarabeetle because blue 🧍

[sturdy breach]

I do try to see the potential for fusions, but some of em I dislike so much design or gameplay wise that I just rather not have em 🙂

[regal vault]

Why is silvaly in many slots?

[mint fable]

I've made my statement here

[viscid mica]

spreading unverifiable facts on the internet moment

[sturdy breach]

2 slots for basically the same pokemon design wise (other than a helmet)

[prime stirrup]

About that

#general message

[civic harness]

I understand, you are looking for potential and you are taking into account your preferences

[regal vault]

No

[alpine rune]

Zygarde because of this poster someone sold me

2 unique abilities too

[thorny ferry]

Their body fusions would look worryingly similar

[sturdy breach]

Personally I don't even like Dhelmise all that much (was such a pain in the ass to catch so never bothered), but the fusion potential is INSANE.

[alpine rune]

this I mean @prime stirrup

[regal vault]

Just do a different helmet referencing the fusion pokemon

[prime stirrup]

That’s fair

[civic harness]

Well, you already saw my tier list, if I took into account the pokemons that I like, it would be something different

[viscid mica]

i feel like i should repost this

[prime stirrup]

Also @alpine rune

[thorny ferry]

Silvally and type:null come in the same bundle

[prime stirrup]

Lurantis has Leaf Storm and Contrary

[sturdy breach]

I don't know if it's much different from a spriter's perspective, I think most people would 100% vote for the pokemon they would want to use most.

[regal vault]

What if it was just Silvally?

[thorny ferry]

L bruxish hater

[lusty oxide]

Bru’ish isn’t high enough

[clever atlas]

LYCANROC 😭😭😭😭

[thorny ferry]

I'd consider it, but sadly, it isn't the case

[viscid mica]

i dont even remember where i put lurantis

[night oracle]

😡 😡 😡 😡

[sturdy breach]

If it was just Silvally it would move up 2 tiers on my list tbf

[prime stirrup]

You didn’t care

[alpine rune]

If I were to make some sprites for it, these 3 would be the main culprit lol

[viscid mica]

the fact that i didnt even remember should speak for itself but if it does have contrary id bump it up to gameplay

[lusty oxide]

Begmite my beloved

[night oracle]

yes BEGMITE

[thorny ferry]

The first two would be a pain to make body fusions of without making them identical

[viscid mica]

im sorry man i dont want more slow bulky physical ice types

[night oracle]

😭 👍

[civic harness]

Well, I created my tier list based on potential, by reflection and the examples that some gave, I focused on what would be best for fusions since thats what the game is about

[thorny ferry]

They should've made the vote exclusive to spriters
||jk||

[clever atlas]

I feel the lack of love for Lycanroc
May I remind you to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh||
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[sturdy breach]

I do think that my actual favorites have a bunch of potential in fusions though (Goodra, Snorunt line, Lurantis, Salazzle)

[prime stirrup]

Salazzle has no potential

[trail hull]

I Hope that next mon revealed has 3 slot so people start to freak out their favorite gonna make it

[alpine rune]

true, most people would choose the doggo and the mech, but personally i like smol things and a mech

[ruby skiff]

None of these are IF fusions but they at least showcase the potential of an archeops body

[prime stirrup]

Why use corrosion when you can leech seed, I don’t get it

[viscid mica]

i feel like i should tell you that you should NOT put "has ... forms" in your sales pitch, since people are hypersensitive to wasting slots.

[sturdy breach]

Unique body type, unique colours, and I'm not going to start this discussion about corrosion with you again no matter how hard you try to goad me

[trail hull]

Forms don’t waste slot it’s the same mon

[alpine rune]

what move tutor is that?

[viscid mica]

no... they do... the lycanroc line is 4 seperate pokemon

[trail hull]

Tapus confirmed ?

[prime stirrup]

I believe the one on knot island

[trail hull]

It’s confirmed ?

[viscid mica]

since they're split evos and not in battle forms like aegislash

[ruby skiff]

6 reasons to vote for archeops:

1. Awesome pokemon based of the single coolest type of animal to ever exist (dinobirds)
2. Awesome potential for body fusions with unique body type that is not existent in any other pokemon. It has wings on its arms AND legs!
3. MASSIVE attack stat and great speed
4. An opportunity to get rid of defeatist to truly create a monster in battle
5. Body fusions will all result in flying type as well which is good coverage when paired with the right type
6. I think body fusions have more potential, however head fusions could still be cool with a of unique combo of traits like a reptilian face, wings, claws, and feathers

[clever atlas]

That's their problem, not mine
But i can update it to clarify

[prime stirrup]

No, psychic terrain is just a tutor move available for all psychic types. It’s been there long before adding new Pokémon was planned.

[trail hull]

It doesn’t affect zygarde it’s different forms are battle form

[trail hull]

Thanks for the clarification

[viscid mica]

🤷‍♂️ im already desensitized to people wasting slots after all 3 starter lines got 70% 3 votes. do whatever.

[trail hull]

Starters were 9 slots

[viscid mica]

and all the starters that were options got voted

[shrewd zealot]

Starter are out

[viscid mica]

thankfully

[trail hull]

I know that’s not the point if the discussion here.

[alpine rune]

maybe personal bias, but i like mons that benefit doubles so yea :v

[prime stirrup]

Shame we don’t get a protean Pokémon that isn’t Keceleon, i.e Greninja

[viscid mica]

ye if its personal opinions then me trying to change your mind is gonna do jack i wish your votes luck

[alpine rune]

I mean people change my mind all the time, like Lurantis and Zygarde. But i guess voting it now is a bit too late

[clever atlas]

How bout this
May I remind you to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (still takes only two slots tho)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[viscid mica]

i mean on the doubles thing, i doubt i could give any paragraph that would result in you putting down your doubles pokemon to a lower tier

[prime stirrup]

Lots of signature moves of unavailable Pokémon are available in this game via move tutors

[viscid mica]

misinformation yayyy

[trail hull]

My hope is that rest(after the 20) gonna be added progressively in the order of the votes

[sturdy breach]

It's quite unlikely that everything will get in due to contraints on the game size wise

[viscid mica]

a single pokemon adds like 840 fusions right

[trail hull]

We thought we would never get new mon and here we are so anything can happen

[clever atlas]

Tf? What misinformation?

[trail hull]

The more mon we add the more min adds a fusion

[viscid mica]

i literally explained that the rockruff line is 4 slots but you put 2, was that unclear or sum

[viscid mica]

yeah here.

[clever atlas]

H-how is that a thing???

[trail hull]

Currently we have 176 400 mon in the pokedex , with the 23 incoming fusion we reach 196 249 fusion

[sturdy breach]

I usually would go by the amount of pokemon mentioned in the line (with sprites) on the form. Which would suggest it is 2.

[viscid mica]

bro they're split evolutions in the regular game, why tf would they be transformations in the fangame

[trail hull]

This number exclude alt

[sharp nebula]

i mean they could just choose one form but that probably wouldnt go down well

[alpine rune]

Actually yknow what

[viscid mica]

well whatever i dont care, do whatever. lying is part of politics anyways its on brand

[shrewd zealot]

I Want you

[viscid mica]

oh yeah they'd get pissed lmao

[sturdy breach]

1 set form for base, let the spriters go wild for fusions. I'm going to admit that I do not know how they will do Lycanroc

[lusty oxide]

Bru’ish should clearly be on the highest tier

[clever atlas]

They're the same Dex number meaning they're the same mon
The different florges colors also aren't separate mons
I refuse to accept whatever shit you're saying until a dev confirms it

[prime stirrup]

Golisapod, Gothitelle, Komala and Salazzle in top tier is still really questionable. (And oranguru but we’ve been over that)

[alpine rune]

mainly because abilities and goliosopod is a stronk bug type

idk i dont wanna fuse my breloom with a wobuffet for legendary catching duty

[trail hull]

It might get controversial but I rather have lycanroc nocturnal and diarnul form be separated mon ( like nidoran) then count as the same as one fusion gonna overshadow the other form.

[prime stirrup]

Gothitelle I can understand, Wobbuffet isn’t the best shadow tag user. Corrosion is not worth top tier though. Komala’s ability I don’t remember so I can’t say much about it. I think it’s weird how Araquanid isn’t in top tier though.

[viscid mica]

i dont think you know how this game treats pokemon. every pokemon in this game when fused with another fuses their bst and gets a new sprite. the three forms of lycanroc would have different speites and different stats, therefore, the game would treat thwm as 3 seperate pokemon, regardless of their canon dex number.

well you can just ignore me. im just screaming into a void lmao.

[clever atlas]

I say there's just one lycanroc and sprites can choose which form they wanna work with

[trail hull]

So we would have twice the same fusion (because if lycanroc day and dawn form)

[lusty oxide]

I taught we would only get the day form

[viscid mica]

they have different stats, but ig that would work.

[clever atlas]

Yes you are honestly

[trail hull]

Maybe lycanroc just be one and the other two would be alt sprite

[viscid mica]

that would piss off some people but thats prob the best way they could do it.

[clever atlas]

The devs can take some liberties there

[lusty oxide]

The day form is also the only one that is shown in the vote unlike oricorio

[thorny ferry]

BRUXISH SWEEP

[prime stirrup]

Corrosions main use is toxic stalling steel types. But we can already use for example leech seed for such occasions. Also, the conditions in which it’s useful in is rarely met in playthroughs. It doesn’t bring anything new to the game.

[alpine rune]

I like araquanid and water bubble, but there's already a lot of strong water abilities in the pool that i dont mind much

and I wanna use comatose on a mon thats not komala because this shit is insane

[viscid mica]

that's actually a good point, i was just assuming it'd be all forms because if it was only 1 form i thought they'd choose dusk instead of day

[prime stirrup]

Yeah it is, but water bubble doubles the damage, which is huge

[white meadow]

Well here's another potentially big issue with that: how are people supposed to get Dusk Lycanroc from Level Up if 1 In-Game Minute is supposed to be 1 Second?

[sturdy breach]

Luckily Salazzle brings a bunch to the table fusion wise (pretty decent head stats), unique body type, and amazing colour palette.

[white meadow]

Because isn't Dusk at a Specific Hour or Specific Time only?

[viscid mica]

a 60 second window gg

[prime stirrup]

That I can get behind though

[trail hull]

Luckily luvdisc bring nothing to the table so it should def get in

[alpine rune]

ok buddy

[viscid mica]

yea 7 to 8 pm

[thorny ferry]

Luvdisc could make valentine's day related fusions

[sturdy breach]

It's a lithe salamander, don't let your mind go into the gutter m8 🙂

[white meadow]

Which would mean that In-Game, you only have A 1 MINUTE WINDOW if an Hour In-Game is a Minute IRL

[prime stirrup]

@alpine rune :)

[viscid mica]

...yes, thats why i edited it to say 60 seconds..

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-perhaps-i-treated-you-too-harshly-gif-26539272

[white meadow]

Sorry, I didn't notice the Edit until after I posted the Message and saw that the Reply had Changed

[viscid mica]

its fine lol

[trail hull]

Yeah I want this cutie in but seems like no one else does

[viscid mica]

tyrantrum and porygon making the offline dinosaur is unironicalky a really good incentive lmao

[prime stirrup]

Relicanth brings potential for perfect fusions

[trail hull]

In fact it’s dex entry says do

[thorny ferry]

Same happens to me with brux

[alpine rune]

Yes, exactly, i want to make it as toxic as possible by fusing it with something that has leech seed and substitute

[viscid mica]

we dont need more small fish but if there had to be a small fish that was added lucdisc aint the worst option

[outer hound]

wait... if i have a pokemon with mold breaker i can use surf , cut , strenght without actually having the HM? lmao

[trail hull]

The fish should work together

[viscid mica]

you're giving in to the temptation to argue lmao

[prime stirrup]

That’s fair, I personally don’t think it’s top tier but you do you

[white meadow]

So that means that you either need BOOTS to hack in Rare Candies to use during that 1 Minute Window, or you have to somehow get to Level 25+ or so within 1 Minute using Natural EXP alone for Lycanroc Dusk

[sturdy breach]

1 Rare Candy would be enough

[viscid mica]

1 rare candy works yea

[alpine rune]

Make luvdisc a pre evo to alomomola and I will vote for it

[trail hull]

Lol

[viscid mica]

unironically same

[tame flax]

Lycanroc and rockruff only take two slots, other mons that have multiple forms have that taken into account like oricorio, if it were 3 slots just for lycanroc the poll would show it

[sturdy breach]

Waste of a slot though 😂

[mossy reef]

I gave it a 0 because I ONLY saw the Daytime form, and got worried. Same goes for literally any other Pokemon with multiple forms on there that didn't show the other sprites.

[viscid mica]

so they're just using the day form?

[alpine rune]

I have a soft spot and a memory of using luvdisc but its so bland and bad I'm sorry

[tame flax]

If other forms counter they would show them as counting, lyanroc will only be dayform

[viscid mica]

then ill bump up lycanroc on my list.

[tame flax]

From the looks of it

[lusty oxide]

Fair point

[tame flax]

It's not like night form is special, it's main difference attack wise is that it's signature move is counter

[lusty oxide]

I hope they find a way to make alt forms work without taking extra slots but I doubt they could

[mossy reef]

Well, hence my worry. And why I gave it a 0, despite really liking the 'mon in reality. But there's just way too many better Pokemon to vote for in a poll, compared to one that won't even be fully accurate/correctly utilized, potentially.

[viscid mica]

their stats are distributed very differently but i get your point

[tame flax]

Other mons with forms showed that their forms counted, mods have even said if it only shows up with one form on the poll, that's how many slots it gets

Like oricorio taking up 4 slots

It shows oricorios forms in the poll

[alpine rune]

Ok but objectively, which one of the ice types with snow warning is the best? Obama, Ice dino or the mcdonalds double ice cream?

[viscid mica]

ight i bumped up lycanroc and luvdisc from i dont want to i dont care

[mossy reef]

Incidentally, I did give Oricori a 3 since I did see them all in the poll, despite not being a super big fan of them in reality. But I figured that meant they'll be accurately utilized, hence my vote.

[sturdy breach]

Dino imho

[white meadow]

Exactly, so my Alliance is focused on using 5 Slots for 3 Families at Once. That being the TDG (Trevenant Dhelmise Gourgeist) Alliance

[viscid mica]

2 of them have 4x weaknesses, technically it would be vanilish.

[tame flax]

You literally up voted a mon for the reason you downvoted another

[sturdy breach]

Fusion gets rid of that problem luckily

[mossy reef]

Nope, reread my replies.

[lilac vine]

You mean like competitively?

[sharp nebula]

id probably say ice cream

[viscid mica]

i completely blanked on fusion for a sec, in that case prob abomasnow because grass coverage for sandstorm setters and rock types.

[tame flax]

And so a mon that most people like taking less slots than most people think deserves a 0 while a meh gimmick that takes 4 different slots is fine?

[median wing]

we need sharpedo

[white meadow]

I have to say Abomasnow, because you can get rid of the 4x Weakness Dragging it down through Fusion

[trail hull]

You know oriorio fusion would be hella mess , we know that Id of the Pokémon get lost after fusing , plus having different types for each form it might loose it’s firm after fusing so it will probably count as pure flying

[alpine rune]

yesnt. well in terms of pkif at least, since you can just remove the rock typing from aurorus and replace it with something like ground or flying to make it not shit. so basically move pool and secondary abilities

[sharp nebula]

so what ive learned is that all 3 are equally mid

which i already knew👍

[sturdy breach]

Aurorus has Refrigerate, which is pretty decent

[trail hull]

Lol

[viscid mica]

pretty much. hail is the worst weather but itd still be nice to have it ynow

[mossy reef]

Yes, because not only are all the designs unique, but they'll actually be accurately portrayed in-game. Not that I expect either 'mon to win out in the end, due to the cons associated with both. But Oricorio deserves it more than Lycanroc, in this specific situation, at least. 🤷‍♀️

[viscid mica]

vanilish would also genuinly be nice for special ice but i know that aint happening

[sharp nebula]

if there was any way we could get snow instead then it would be way better

[trail hull]

Yes different ice cream flavors

[prime stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/meloetta-gif-22701139

[white meadow]

I know, right? If you include everything in my Alliance, then you get 3 Full Families for 5 Slots instead of 4. Those being the Trevenant Line, Dhelmise, and the Gourgeist Line.

[viscid mica]

vaniluxe unironically has good fusion potential, but its so generally unliked i highly doubt its making the cut.

[final forge]

I haven't slept in 24 hours

[viscid mica]

ngs is 6 slots right?

[lusty oxide]

Vanilluxe also gets snow warning

[trail hull]

Just 3

[final forge]

Venipede line doesn't take up any so just 3

[viscid mica]

oh right scolipede was free

[alpine rune]

6, wym

[trail hull]

Venipede line doesn’t count in the total

[mossy reef]

Swirlix and Slurpuff are literally better-designed dessert 'mons both competitively and aesthetically, though....

[viscid mica]

im only even considering vaniluxe becuz its a special ice.

[white meadow]

Yes

[viscid mica]

plus i genuinly dislike slurpuff so bias wins againts that

[white meadow]

Wait no
3 since scolipede was too good for slots

[white meadow]

But the fact is: Necrozma is just... Weird. It's basically just making an Aegislash Clone since it can't be made Ultra unless it's a Self-Fusion or a Triple Fusion between the 3 Legendaries, it'd just be Armor

[viscid mica]

yea i forgot about that lol

[viscid mica]

ngs allied with begmite?

[white meadow]

Nah we help Mons we like and think deserve a spot

[final forge]

It'd only be armor working under the assumption people would only make its fusions based off of the fusions it had in usum
Which isn't the case with kyurem so why should it be the same with necrozma?

[viscid mica]

help froslass fr

[lilac vine]

Vote trubbish OR ELSE

[viscid mica]

vote froslass or ill shit in your toilet 👍

[white meadow]

Kyurem literally takes in Biological DNA to Change its own Body to adapt to turn itself into a Biological Fusion. Meanwhile, Necrozma just becomes Mind-Controlling Armor for the other Pokemon.

[prime stirrup]

Vote Archeops for Defeatist fusions!

[sturdy breach]

Not the best threat I've heard. Also no need 🙂

[viscid mica]

man that mustve taken a bit

[prime stirrup]

Any complains?

[trim acorn]

I need a better offer for 7 doubloons

[viscid mica]

the only valid objective tier list

[alpine rune]

no i dont

[prime stirrup]

I made it with all the feedback and critique in mind

[white meadow]

I can offer you the TDG (Trevenant Dhelmise Gourgeist) Alliance instead.

[dusk shoal]

Please note: For this, I'm putting the vast majority of Legendaries/UBs in their own category. I think the UBs should ALL be added, but in their own update! And legendaries that "don't look too much like what we have" are all also welcome even if they may be hard to impliment (in theory)

[viscid mica]

i applaud you for your unbiased opinions

[sharp kite]

Vote skitty and I’ll give you a gold star

[trim acorn]

And one potato

[viscid mica]

appropriation is bad lmao

[prime stirrup]

Spinda is truly worthy of the Legendary status

[sharp kite]

Based

[final forge]

That's
Literally just going off of the 1 instance in main games and completely disregarding the possible creativity of spriters
None of the other pokemon in this game fuse purely based off of what they do in main series so why should necrozma?

[dusk shoal]

I don't think Pokemon went into it with that intent, but as an artist I get weirded out by it. Spinda...I get it would never look unique, but I WANT it to somehow, lol

[broken lion]

"uninteresting fusions -> torkoal" 💀

[dusk shoal]

we do gotta LOTTA turtles and it's...there's a LOT of turtles.

[viscid mica]

i understand you sentiment dont get me wrong, but i genuinly dont think that any Perusian thinks Sigilyph is cultural appropriation, and isnt braviary just an eagle with the colors of a flag?

[alpine rune]

why pachirisu... unless the only reason you have is this

[gentle ferry]

Doing Gastrodon dirty lol

[broken lion]

You have "too much like things already in the game" right there, if that's your problem! 😆

[dusk shoal]

heavy warbonnet vibes, and Sigilyph lifts from both navaho and central american cultures.

[prime stirrup]

Pachirisu wouldn’t have won if it hadn’t been regional dex

[dusk shoal]

I may have let that one slip into the wrong spot. Most of the turtles ended up there.

[final forge]

I think the main thing for braviary is it's hair kind of looks like it has a native feather crown? I'm not entirely sure

[viscid mica]

i aint knowledgeable enough about getting offended so imma just agree

[final forge]

Fair enough tbh

[white meadow]

Not exactly

[dusk shoal]

It's more I'm aware of the issue so...I try to do what I can? If native folks want to do those fusions, HELL YA. I'm just not native.

[broken lion]

??
You mean "you aren't from the affected cultures so can't comment"?

[viscid mica]

fair enough ig 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy breach]

Vote happy goo dragon

[prime stirrup]

No

[alpine rune]

Here's a different list i made btw

[viscid mica]

anything that'll keep my ass away from the ban list.

[white meadow]

That's because we've never KNOWN any other Fusions like those have, so we have to interpret them in our own ways. Meanwhile, we HAVE the methods of Interpretation for how Necrozma and Kyurem Fuse with their respective Trios

[prime stirrup]

I have never considered eating an anchor before

[dusk shoal]

OH! I know why Torkoal was in the wrong category, I was trying to show someone I was talking to on stream that Torkoal and the other "big boy is fire" were similar in design and he got left there. He was supposed to be in the "we got a lotta these boys" previously.

[viscid mica]

dhelmise aint an anchor its the moss, so it is edible technically

[alpine rune]

ITs a grass ghost so it implies its the seaweed

[prime stirrup]

Yes, I still have never considered eating an anchor before though

[viscid mica]

same.

[sharp nebula]

youre missing out

[dusk shoal]

I mean, as an anemic, eating an anchor might be good for me

[prime stirrup]

Knowing Dhelmise is the moss won’t change that

[sturdy breach]

Seaweed is delicious though, wonder what the ghostly part will do when ingesting it

[winged garnet]

Vote Golisopod for cool fusions like this made by me

[alpine rune]

anchor is good tho

[viscid mica]

what the fuck is it gonna do give you spectral food poisoning? no, the rusted metal flakes on the seaweed will do that to you

[sturdy breach]

Possession from the inside maybe

[alpine rune]

free air

[viscid mica]

thats just possession though

[white meadow]

So we can't just disregard the Interpretations that we know are True.

[trail hull]

Rot

[viscid mica]

did you just tell me to rot or am i too drunk to understand.

[trail hull]

No you would rot after eating the spectral sea weed

[alpine rune]

pot

[viscid mica]

that too ig

[viscid mica]

does it suddenly have corrosion too?

[trail hull]

Lol

[alpine rune]

my man you drank 20 shots too much

[viscid mica]

i dont do shots i drink from the bottle.

[trail hull]

I love the fact that most of these fusion are with non if mon

[viscid mica]

1 sprite for progoganda of 2 different mons its called peak efficiency

[trail hull]

Lol

[lusty oxide]

Hold on what’s up with all the Pokémon holding lethal weapons?

[viscid mica]

i gave it to them

[lusty oxide]

Can I have a lethal weapon too?

[trail hull]

Me too pls

[lusty oxide]

You’re not a Pokémon

[viscid mica]

will a broken bottle do?

[trail hull]

Yes

[winged garnet]

I have a lethal weapon

[viscid mica]

then have 8

[trail hull]

Hooray

[white meadow]

I still did it before you

[alpine rune]

ok but what if:

[prime stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/meloetta-gif-22701139

[viscid mica]

i feel like regice would work better

[lusty oxide]

Well at least broken bottles aren’t as dangerous to me as knives

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-group-hug-munchlax-rowlet-gif-18513209

[white meadow]

Aren't Xerneas Yveltal and Zygarde all included in One Package though?

[winged garnet]

I disagree

[sweet dune]

funny anteater

[white meadow]

So that would be 3 Slots.

[winged garnet]

But let's have them in harmony

[prime stirrup]

No

[lusty oxide]

Please don’t shoot me

[white meadow]

when did yyou start yours

[prime stirrup]

Zygarde is separate

[winged garnet]

Uh... like... 11 yesterday

[clever atlas]

May I remind you to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (still takes only two slots tho i think)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[sharp nebula]

i decided to do one because why not

[lusty oxide]

Haha no alt forms

[winged garnet]

Look, mine can be an alt of yours, since... yours does look better lol

[sweet dune]

funny

[clever atlas]

Still different options for the spriters

[lusty oxide]

Put bru’ish higher

[frail jolt]

Clawitzer plus Scizor

[alpine rune]

Based list right here.

Why argue about which is superior or which has the most art potential when you can just vote what you want?

[sweet dune]

is there a template

[sharp nebula]

pinned

[prime stirrup]

Limbo

[viscid mica]

doesnt have to be, one of them is golisopod head and scolipede body, the other is the opposite.

[white meadow]

ZeroCipher
OP
— 13.08.2023 17:30
Base by Hero.Drawing (changed the name so I dont ping him)
One more Mon for NGS

#1140306510560383007

[winged garnet]

I... thought they both were Scolipede body?

[white meadow]

Why is Trevenant so Low, and why is Gourgeist Mid?

[white meadow]

yeah but you would need Golisopods colors if its Golisopod head

[sharp nebula]

its only that high because i think it would be funny

[winged garnet]

I ah see

[white meadow]

This list be like: Woman xD

[viscid mica]

one of them is using scolipede colors idk im drunk ignore me pls

[sharp nebula]

because i like gourgeist more

[winged garnet]

I'll try to fix that sometime soon

[lusty oxide]

Highest tier would be funnier

[white meadow]

I mean I kinda do too, but why is Gourgeist Mid for you?

[winged garnet]

But I'm keeping the Scolipede features like the horns and shit

[sharp nebula]

because all it really has is pumkin imo

[clever atlas]

Ultimate fix
May I remind you to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[white meadow]

You realize that similar to how Porygon-Z can be Online/Digital stuff instead of just always being a Buggy Mess, Gourgeist could make Fusions that involve Halloween and Creepy Themes?

[sharp nebula]

yeah

[white meadow]

So that could give Werewolves, Vampires, Zombies, Frankenstein, etc.

[arctic sail]

A whole bunch of dragon puppies!!!!!
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1140730872698503279

[sweet dune]

Heatmor & Ribombee are my only serious picks since they're my top 2 pokemon

that and Drapion because badass scorpion

[winter bay]

TYRANTRUM SUPREMACY. ALL HAIL THE ANCIENT KING

[sweet dune]

very cool list

[prime stirrup]

I agree with half of them, which is pretty good

[sweet dune]

Literally everything except sableye and glalie (who's tied to Froslass)

[sturdy breach]

Sableye is only there cause it's already confirmed (wouldn't be my pick personally)

[sharp nebula]

originally bruxish was the only one in limbo, because i dont like it but it would be funny if it got in, but added the tapus because i really like them and think they have good potential, but theyre all pretty similar and take 4 slots so im just very conflicted

[sweet dune]

I don't like sableye on its own but it has crazy fusion potential

[sturdy breach]

True, and I guess people prefer creepy over cute when it comes to gems

[sharp nebula]

i think it was more because its counterpart is already in the game

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

[thin willow]

Reminder of why golisopod should be in.
1: Badass design. Powerful monster look
2: Amazing typing and coverage
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it without its crippling ability
7: Almost won worlds back in gen 8
8: Guzmas Golisopod was an absolute menace in the anime
9: Its a samurai. Wears armor. Wears the bodies of its victims
10: Scolopede and Necrozma are in alliances with us and are great mons to fuse with
11: Badass Anime references

[radiant briar]

When is the next pick getting revealed?

[sweet dune]

we need to get a funny anteater campaign going

[sullen quarry]

Probably when scolipede contest ends

[shrewd zealot]

No Two pack of one Xerneas and Yveltal and second of Zygarde

[cobalt nebula]

Oh cool so we get more then 20

[cobalt nebula]

Would they even feature all of Zygarde’a forms?

It’d just be 50% right?

[pale mortar]

Tropius, also can bring them and meganium back together

[sturdy breach]

1 form (50%) and the rest for the spriters to work with 🙂

[sweet dune]

the only legendary I want is Magearna because it's cooler klinklang fusion

[white meadow]

If that's not the case, then Zygarde Alone would be 2-3 Slots

[cobalt nebula]

I want the Regi’s, I mean come on. We have Regigigas but not the original regi trio

[shrewd zealot]

Yes but we will can use the 50% for all form

[sturdy breach]

It's the only form shown on the form at least

[sharp nebula]

the golisopod and yveltal ones look kinda goofy tbh

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/registeel-gif-22738555

[sturdy breach]

I want to see a Xerneas counterpart, I really like the Yveltal one

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

[pure flower]

Have you tried melotta head on a pokemon body like say. Arcanine, Aerodactyl, Torterra, etc?

[arctic sail]

Propaganda time :D

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/registeel-slaughter-pokemon-memes-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-18042147074303530149

[prime stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/melloeta-gif-13613786

[brave laurel]

guys vote glalie cuz we have funny sans undertale fusion in inf fusion xdddddddd

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/regice-regirock-registeel-running-run-gif-16398635

[night oracle]

Thats sick btw would you be intrested in doing a Lycanroc/Avalugg

[pale mortar]

Dog but fluff

[arctic sail]

I think for right now I’m only doing fusions with Pokémon already in the game, sorry

[night oracle]

ok. those fusions are sick though already a 3 so cant change it to one

[earnest mortar]

yes, VOTE ROCKRUFF

[sweet dune]

rockruff is fun

[sturdy breach]

Kinda wanna see Mismagius (in spirit of the new server icon 🙂 )

[clever atlas]

HECC YEA!!!!

[earnest mortar]

yes he is

[arctic sail]

Hmmmm… I might just have to do that…

[steep glen]

Ya I'm for this one just for a whole band of them

[sharp nebula]

yes to half of this

[sweet dune]

these 2 are all I care about,the latter because my second favourite pokemon and I saw a sick one on DA

the former has been my favourite since like 2015

[pine glade]

ew

[sweet dune]

my engine boy may not be popular but I love him nonetheless

[white meadow]

Can someone give me 2 non IF mons (only good ones)

[sharp nebula]

i can give you one 👍

[white meadow]

Sorry
They need to be in the Vote

[white meadow]

Than you need one more

[sharp nebula]

then go with ribombee

[sweet dune]

Heatmor Seviper then

[arctic sail]

Well obviously I’m gonna say Lycanroc

[white meadow]

👍

[quasi cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-evolve-rockruff-lycanroc-gif-16420675

[trail hull]

Luvdisc (not stat wise)

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

[lusty oxide]

Leavanny

[sturdy breach]

Froslass/Goodra/Lurantis

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/leavanny-pokemon-bug-grass-hello-gif-18653110

[sweet dune]

Ribombee/Lurantis

[frosty bloom]

I just want either Frosslass or Tyrantrum

[sturdy breach]

Why not both

[gentle ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1139634111598821528/7vhefx.gif

[trail hull]

Lol

[rain gust]

Based lurantis

[frosty bloom]

Now those are based votes

Just for that I’ll vote for Goodra

[sweet dune]

fomantis would be a really good early game fusion

free attack boosts from all the shitty growl mons

[potent venture]

https://tenor.com/view/goomy-sliggoo-goodra-gif-9838661

[frosty bloom]

I kinda want some Ultra Beasts, but just to see where we would get them, because I always got a creepy vibe from them

[sweet dune]

Buzzwole is creepy/cool but would be a nightmare to fuse with anything that isn't machamp

[prime stirrup]

No? If you’re referring to contrary it’s a hidden ability

[frosty bloom]

Yeah like, I’m interested in where they would be found, if we needed to do some side quests or something

[white meadow]

So I looked we have
Ribbonbee/Meloetta
Heatmore/Seviper
Lycanroc/Luvdisc
Leavanndy/Goodra
Froslass/Lurantis
Rimbombee/Lurantis

[frosty bloom]

But yeah they would be a nightmare to fuse

[sweet dune]

all of them except Pheromosa because it's Pheromosa

[potent venture]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-james-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25091008

[sweet dune]

the Gardevoir spriters would have a new option

[potent venture]

you know what else
as contrary

[frosty bloom]

We all know what people are thinking

Also I just think that one of Phero’s sprite with Idk maybe Ditto would be Lusamine

[pure flower]

Wouldn't you have to get a formantis with the HA first? Formantis/Lurantis has Leaf Guard as only normal ability and Contrary as their HA

[odd summit]

Getting a hidden ability isn't usually that horribly difficult, or hasn't really been that hard for me in IF at least- So idk if its too much of a concern that it's Fomantis's hidden ability? Then again I haven't totally completed the game yet so idk-

[pure flower]

As for formantis and lurantis, they'd probably only appear in one of the more jungle-y forests

[sweet dune]

I stopped playing my first run because Koga was a fucking slog

I had no enjoyment with that fight even with good psychic types

hopefully some of those pokemon would be a breath of fresh air

[lusty oxide]

Oh yea the stupid chansey + muk that thing is so annoying

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/kartana-furfrou-pokemon-sun-moon-gif-19000346

[sweet dune]

very fun pokemon but hard to work with because of the gimmick

[atomic pawn]

arceufrou

[pure flower]

Honestly. That's kinda a neat scene. Alolan vulpix, alolan ninetails, and arceus lol

[lusty oxide]

How did he do the thing arceus has around it

[kindred knot]

Buzzwole is insanely good body.

[stuck cave]

Hairgel

[sturdy breach]

My first modern mode nuzlocke got messed up by the damn Honchkrow/Weezing fusion at giovanni

[atomic pawn]

poofed into reality

[stuck cave]

Big muskels

[marble meadow]

katagami has potential to turn Pokémon into origami fusions

[sweet dune]

Buzzwole does have great potential

[marble meadow]

yeah more buff fusion

[sweet dune]

but it also looks like it'd be utter hell to sprite

[white meadow]

Updated with Vote Mons

[sharp nebula]

imo buzzwole is offensive to look at

[kindred knot]

It is just a centaur, but mosquito

[solid nimbus]

A buff mosquito, who will bench your car if you let it

[sharp nebula]

the thing is just hideous

[atomic pawn]

gigachad mosquito 🗿

[sweet dune]

Xurkitree is my favourite UB

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/blacephalon-twirl-pokemon-gif-20060192

[stuck cave]

Celesteela > Every UB

[solid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[sweet dune]

and the perfect reference fusion is already in game

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/glutton-gluttony-grumpig-spoink-pig-gif-27399447

[stuck cave]

This guy's color palette and theme is fun

[solid nimbus]

I am scared of clowns

[marble meadow]

Yeah he’s my fav ub

[stuck cave]

🤡

Shakin in yer boots is ye

[solid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/durant-pokemondurant-durantpokemon-gif-25315615

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/hypnosis-grumpig-spoink-pig-pokemon-gif-27399431

[solid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-gif-20358321

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-grumpig-pig-mr-mime-mime-gif-27399486

[marble meadow]

well about that cant wait to see what got added and if we get More creepy cursed mr mime fusion

[sharp nebula]

this does not make me want grumpig

[solid nimbus]

Ya’ll bringing out the whole circus!

[short garden]

damn

[sharp nebula]

and i also really hate mr mime but hey

[atomic pawn]

but clown grumpig is cute (totally not trying to make grumpig lose some votes)

[sweet dune]

add him to unite

[sharp nebula]

agree to disagree

[solid nimbus]

The horror, the horror!

[marble meadow]

i like nightmare fuel pinsir fusion and Parasect fusion are also scary

[frosty bloom]

I’m not a big fan of grumpig

[marble meadow]

got damn autocorrect

[sweet dune]

I love the silly bastard

I love all of the pig pokemon, even Pignite

[plush bough]

And don't forget her ability, I really like it

[short garden]

i might actually play again

rn i main goodra, but mewtwo has just made me stop playing

tbh i predicted it would be that broken and stopped the day it came out

[sturdy breach]

Was a reaction to someone discounting the ability. but yeah

[crude garden]

https://tenor.com/view/goomy-pokemon-ice-cream-gif-24661454

[short garden]

oh my god i remember that

wasnt the guy named like gloopy or smth

[marble meadow]

Well I forgot I need to do some prep for mewtwo raid keep up the hype

[sweet dune]

don't play right now

[plush bough]

Ah didn't see that, I really like it and used it pretty often like in the alolan battle tower, dunno anymore what it was called 🤔

Only sad thing, she will have mostly bad shinies here in IF, I really like OG shiny Salazzle, even have a self printed and painted version standing on the shelf

[sweet dune]

Mewtwo has made the game borderline unplayable

[sturdy breach]

Corrosion is the ability, and yes Salazzle has one of the best shinies in pokemon tbh

[short garden]

i mean if they add grumpig

Hopefully a defender, i like to use those

if not, then i will resume once they nerf mewtwo into JUST being game-breaking

i know of the mons coming next

[plush bough]

Also I have already many fusions drawn with Salazzle and am hyped to try to make them for IF 😍

[atomic pawn]

why darkrai (or is it yveltal?) one looks like something InGen would create 💀

[crude garden]

Goodra salazzle fusion

[sturdy breach]

Salikkc made one with Clawitzer body 🙂

[sweet dune]

I main Tsareena and she just keeps getting nerfed, hopefully she'd be cool in IF (though again probably the same situation as pheromosa)

[plush bough]

That sounds fun 🤔

[sturdy breach]

Sounds interesting both ways around.

[shrewd zealot]

It's Yveltal and its wath Pokemon

[surreal chasm]

I made some quick Palossand fusion concepts to show how amazing its potential is

[robust geyser]

Can I request a Vaporeon/Lycanroc ? 👀

[plush bough]

The autogen doesn't even look half bad, at least I've seen way worse 🤔

[clever atlas]

Did someone say lycanroc?

May I remind you to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[crude garden]

Yeah it has a lot of potential for a cool standard fusion

[sturdy breach]

The face on the Goozle looks a bit cursed, love the Salazdra one even though it makes it look like a chicken a bit :d

[earnest mortar]

Good boys...

[crude garden]

Chickens are cool though, so even that's a win

[pure flower]

For Salazdra could position it to be more quadruped

You you basically get a thick lizard lol

[sturdy breach]

The body is Goodra so I would expect it to keep Goodra's posture tbh, With Salazzle body it would rest on 2 and run on 4 legs 🙂

[pure flower]

Fair.

[clever atlas]

Skeledirge but not

[pure flower]

Pretty much.

Although. I suppose that the posture is fine. Just wonder how it'd look quadruped

[pure flower]

Actually. No might not work. Too much lower weight

[sturdy breach]

I mean, both could work. I do expect the Goodra body Salazzle head would make a fusion that is more intimidating

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/spoink-happy-spoink-sunday-gif-23056393

[lusty oxide]

I got a cinnamon roll and a milkshake so I’m just vibing here

[clever atlas]

Good for you

[sturdy breach]

enjoy

[wanton spade]

necrozma would be such a perfect pokemon to be in this game

[pure flower]

Honestly. I do have a personal hope that for Samurott, whenever those fusions are made, it stays primarily quadruped

[wanton spade]

i mean he fuses with pokemon

[robust geyser]

Well in fact, since he already fused in official games he should let room to the pokemon who never fused 😔

[white meadow]

I did some research, and just came into a shocking conclusion 😮
There are already tons of great pokemon in the game to fuse with. Therefore any pokemon that gets added, will have amazing fuses 😮

[sturdy breach]

I still want Goodra though 🙂

[winged garnet]

Updated Propaganda Sprite my own take on Golispod/Scolipede

Didnt fuse Necrozma with it tho, but like... this is good enough, right?

[crude garden]

Golisipede

[plush bough]

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/19067497/

This artist made a rather nice quadrped version of Goodra, so I'd say it could work when some feats are more leaned into the other fusion part 🤔 also I just thought about a Goodra/Houndoom fusion 🤔 a Goo(d)-Hellhound xD

[sturdy breach]

Not 100% sure if you wanna link an FA page but it does look nice as a (probably even bigger) quadruped

[plush bough]

Because of Rule2? 🙈

[glossy osprey]

where's my guzzlord propaganda?

[sturdy breach]

Screaming into the abyss probably

[lusty oxide]

AAAAAAAA

[plush bough]

Somehow I don't really see Ultrabeasts in IF 🙈 I'd think they'd need some lore reasons to be there, since they're not really pokemon. Which is already weird since they're officially no pokemon but somehow they're used like pokemon 🙈🙈

[glossy osprey]

ngl that yveltal + whiskash fusion is moving me

[plush bough]

🤔🤔🤔

[clever atlas]

May I remind you to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[plush bough]

Ngl, Lycandoom looks awesome

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

[earnest mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-rockruff-feed-cute-gif-16420674

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/ducklett-pokemon-cute-gif-18010765

[sturdy breach]

I saw a pretty amazing salazzle/houndoom concept somewhere when I googled

Like, biker themed

[plush bough]

Salazdoom, the tail higher and it would be pretty nice already

[clever atlas]

Honestly, this is way over average effort for these propaganda posters

[gentle ferry]

Here’s who I think have good odds to make it in, regardless of my own personal favorites. Could be very far off admittedly since I really didn’t think Stableye would be anywhere near most popular.

[sturdy breach]

I think the 2 pokemon mesh quite well concept wise (also check DMs) @plush bough

[arctic sail]

What can I say, I’m an obsessed perfectionist 💀

[gentle ferry]

(Unordered within tiers btw)

[clever atlas]

Also, that glaceon lycanroc looks awesome

[sharp nebula]

i would say that snorunt is quite likely

[sturdy breach]

I probably love the Leafeon one the most, very nice

[clever atlas]

LYCANROC!!!

[gentle ferry]

Yeah I agree, just not ultra confident that he’s in 100%.

[sturdy breach]

I think Snorunt has better odds than Spheal if this chat is anything to go by (no real pushback even though there's no propaganda)

[royal drum]

Honestly, in my opinion
Heatmor and Durant should be a pair with each other, since they are related to each other, as in as enemies

[clever atlas]

The leafeon is awesome too but im a sucker for that Blue and Black combo

[sturdy breach]

With that, come over to the Snorunt line side, she is beckoning you

[clever atlas]

Or you'll get turned into an ice sculpture

[elder field]

Ok but that golurk mix is fantastic

[sturdy breach]

She just thinks you are beautiful 🙂

[sweet dune]

I really want heatmor in because it's never in fangames

[gentle ferry]

Oh right Snorunt not Snover lol.

I’m not sure if outside this chat there’s the support but we’ll see. Keep in mind I’ve put a LOT into Gastrodon propaganda here and I still have it in the same tier.

[glossy osprey]

heatmor gang

[clever atlas]

Gives a whole new meaning to the term "she's a keeper"

[cinder oasis]

This is only based off of the discord and I can certainly tell

[royal drum]

Not really a heatmor fan, but I hope you guys wish come true one day

[trail hull]

Luvdisc gang

[royal drum]

Hawlucha gang

[trail hull]

Yeah he is cool too

[royal drum]

I also really hope kartana comes. The samurai and origami fusions will be wild

[rancid lily]

IM FINALLY UNMUTED!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1140297687061757972/image0.gif

[grave jolt]

Hey guys, Pachirisu should be in IF.

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-pokemon-here-comes-the-boi-boi-pouic-gif-22554922

[autumn radish]

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-25238734

[lusty oxide]

He can leave now

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/goodra-happy-goodra-pokemon-gif-23750372

[thin willow]

Reminder of why golisopod should be in.
1: Badass design. Powerful monster look
2: Amazing typing and coverage
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it without its crippling ability
7: Almost won worlds back in gen 8
8: Guzmas Golisopod was an absolute menace in the anime
9: Its a samurai. Wears armor. Wears the bodies of its victims
10: Scolopede and Necrozma are in alliances with us and are great mons to fuse with
11: Badass Anime references

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-pokemon-pokémon-gif-23784816

[winter bay]

TYRANTRUM SUPREMACY.

Golisopod honorable mention cause that mon is dope too

[clever atlas]

A quick reminder to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[thin willow]

I would loveeeee to have lycanroc in the game. Its sooooo nice

[cinder oasis]

Vote Tyrantrum

[atomic pawn]

why do i hear snoring man sfx when i look at that roaring gif

[sturdy breach]

Once again sharing

[rancid lily]

Reminder of why goomy should be in.
1: Cute design. And yet powerful monster look
2: Another pseudo legendary
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it with its amazing ability
7: Third place in a big tourney a wild back
8: Ash's goodra was an absolute chad in the anime
9: Its a gloop. Has gloop.
10: Goomy and spheal are in aliances and are great pokemon to fuse with
11: Chad Anime references

[thin willow]

Already a 3 for me.

[grave jolt]

no spheal 😔

[trail hull]

Slow mode is over?

[cinder oasis]

I don’t even know why they haven’t removed sableye yet even though he’s confirmed

[rancid lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1140297687061757972/image0.gif

[cinder oasis]

It’s half as much time comparing to yesterday

[sturdy breach]

Because Sableye counts as 1 of the 20 slots. Hence why my 20 slots includes it

[clever atlas]

Ah yes, Mammuth89 and their absolutely dapper sprites

[trail hull]

You trolled me , and I already knew about 15 slow mode (I’m glad it’s 15s now)

[surreal chasm]

HOLDUP KILNGKLANG/PALOSSAND COULD BE HOWL'S MOVING CASTLE OMG

[thin willow]

Mans took my post edited a few words. And then post. Not sure if i should be impressed or annoyed

[atomic pawn]

ay ur back

[cinder oasis]

I didn’t do that

[rancid lily]

You should be impressed

[viscid mica]

i cant wait till the results are released and the slowmode goes back to 2 minutes

[silk narwhal]

Lmao

[rancid lily]

I feel like yveltal'll be another darkrai thats why I gave it a 3

[dawn pendant]

me when furfrou

[grave jolt]

Wish we could get wooloo 😔

[viscid mica]

discount mareep

[trail hull]

Reminder of why luvdisc should be in.
1: Cute design. And yet simplet
2:Finally a regular mon
3: Amazing fusion potential
4: Overall 10/10
5: Finally an other fish Pokémon
6: Its a gloop. Has gloop.
7: it only takes 1 slot

Wanted to do that too lol

[rancid lily]

I thought luvdisc was in because its gen 2

[white meadow]

You guys wanna see a Danceing spider I found at work once
(Maybe Meloetta/Ariados fusion idea?)

[viscid mica]

being a regular mon is a downside tbh

[surreal chasm]

Is there a link to the tier list?

[sharp nebula]

its gen 3

[dawn pendant]

Furfrou x Corviknight

[rancid lily]

Yeah I know thats what I thought it was until I saw it

[viscid mica]

unless you mean regular as in non legendary

[silk narwhal]

Was it a jumping spider?

[clever atlas]

Imagine not being able to count properly /j

[viscid mica]

bro's vibing would still kill it tho

[silk narwhal]

Not a jumping spider, just a silly little guy

[white meadow]

Just so guy know the spider did that for hours

[trail hull]

When you posted that it was already modified lol

[glossy osprey]

my arachnophobia is tingling

[gentle ferry]

I don't have it atm but just look up "tier list" and you should find it somewhere. It was in the spanish channel or something.

[trail hull]

Also it’s a joke

[clever atlas]

OH yes it was, sry

[viscid mica]

thank god my arachnophobia/entomophobia manifests as an urge to extirminate it instead of an urge to run

[rancid lily]

you work? (Edit: I dont work because Im underage to work)

[sharp nebula]

its pinned

[silk narwhal]

They will kill you

[viscid mica]

ngl i assumed mostly everyone in the voting discussion was an adult since this is just discount politics

[lusty oxide]

No

[clever atlas]

A quick reminder to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

Dead chat

[nocturne current]

Please vote the GOAT Altaria. that is all

[white meadow]

Yes I do im 20 and a Landscape Gardener

[sturdy breach]

Please vote Goodra in return Goobert, it's part of your username after all 🙂

[nocturne current]

i did put a 3 on goodra

[white meadow]

You accidantly wrote altaria behind it

[nocturne current]

just reminding people altaria is the goat

[white meadow]

How are the vote calculated anyway? I put a 3 on a few mons, and ignored the rest. What is worse, giving 1 or ignre?

[sturdy breach]

Truthfully Altaria was already part of my top 19 (Sableye is just there because it is already taking up a slot)

[clever atlas]

Altaria=bird=/=goat

[nocturne current]

you may be more than one thing "he juggles, so he cannot sing" but the juggler may sing and the singer may juggle
being a cloud dragon does not exclude you from having the qualities of a goat

[potent kiln]

Did anyone notice that all the the starters disappeared from the voting form? I'm pretty sure I saw them the first time I looked at the Google doc.

[tame flax]

They were cut

[white meadow]

yes it was announced. they were removed because everyone voted for them

[wispy mesa]

Everyone was voting starters so they despawned

[potent kiln]

XD

[white meadow]

Kiwi decided that they are the senate

[sturdy breach]

I'm glad, was a good call

[tame flax]

It was a combination of them being popular and people bitching about the slots

[potent kiln]

What did they expect? The starters do tend to be the most popular.

[nocturne current]

brother that is a sylveon

[white meadow]

Just give me inceroar. You can trash the other ones 😦

[lusty oxide]

And?

[sand mica]

Is Skuntank going to be in the game?

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

[sturdy breach]

Funny enough it's the only one in gen7 that I would want trashed 🙂

[wispy mesa]

Take it back

[clever atlas]

I would've given it a 0 if it wasnt for the fat XP yield

[muted ruin]

Here my humble opinion

[tame flax]

We don't know

[wispy mesa]

Dunno how they would do wishiwashi

[nocturne current]

we who are unaware of the coolness of audino will not be convinced without seeing audino

[glossy osprey]

w list

[white meadow]

Think of all the heel wrestler references we could make

[tame flax]

But I doubt he's popular enough

[kindred knot]

Wishiwashi ability is very tricky

I doubt it can even work in fusion

[night oracle]

😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

[glossy osprey]

wishiwashi + guzzlord could be like an el gran maja

[tame flax]

Did this channel do weird shit for anyone else like 5 people posted at the exact same second?

[white meadow]

With Inceroar, we could give fire championship belt to Mewtwo. How dope would that be?

[wispy mesa]

Would wishiwashi require two sprites per fusion if their ability is picked?

[nocturne current]

now that is a good way to advertise audino

[atomic pawn]

thats just a blank pink screen

[wispy mesa]

I like these propaganda posters, very cool

[night oracle]

you should do what there telling u

[wispy mesa]

Can you vote multiple times or it’s a one-and-done type of thing

[atomic pawn]

oh beta incineroar

[lusty oxide]

Oh yea you can change your votes later

[wispy mesa]

Ah. I think I’m all set, but we’ll see

[clever atlas]

Only once but you can edit your votes for now

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-blastoise-venusaur-fusion-venustoise-gif-17959960

Vote blastoise

[glossy osprey]

vote guzzlord for AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA fusions

[trail hull]

This episode started the whole fusion trend

[white meadow]

God bless Ghastly and Haunter

[brave laurel]

vote glalie line

[broken lion]

Ignoring is the same as voting a 0

[worthy peak]

i could have sworn kiwis message originally said the next announcement was coming really soon, was it edited again?

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

[strange jetty]

Vote pheromosa for a reason I can explain

https://tenor.com/view/ultra-beast-wormhole-pheromosa-upside-down-anime-gif-13903526

[clever atlas]

Last one was the scolipede one so next is at the end of this week

[brave laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/froslass-pokémon-froslass-snow-snow-storm-gif-26225817

[clever atlas]

A quick reminder to vote for these good bois
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-gif-21028007

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-audino-pokemon-y-and-x-pokemon-x-and-y-anime-gif-24205238

[strange jetty]

Vote Pheromosa for:
Cool fusions
Beast boost
High attack and speed stats
An amazing mix of threatening and graceful
Can help a lot of other pokemon with their attack and speed stats at once, and give other mons beast boost when fused

[white meadow]

fairy types are an abomination 😦 Why they have do wrong my dragons like this

[strange jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/shiny-pokemon-pheromosa-ultra-beast-blink-gif-13903531

[grave jolt]

I only usr like 2 fairy types tbh.
Gardevoir and Sylveon are my favorite pokemon from their respective generations 😌

[lusty oxide]

Thank you

[lethal roost]

the 🐐 has arrived

[sharp nebula]

bad taste

[lethal roost]

well at least furfou's up there, and isn't that the true meaning of christmas?

[clever atlas]

I agree
Lycanroc is the goodest of all the bois

[lilac vine]

wtf

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-pokemon-here-comes-the-boi-boi-pouic-gif-22554922

[lethal roost]

sad to see the other half of my S-tier drop so far tho

[white meadow]

Excadrill apreciator

[clever atlas]

Anyways im going to sleep so goodnight and remember to vote lycanroc
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[craggy lynx]

A increase in Lycanroc love i'm seeing?

[sturdy breach]

Largely agree when it comes to my priority picks, sad to see Lurantis all the way down there though. Also the regis...

[clever atlas]

Always for the best doggo in the vote

[craggy lynx]

To be honest, Lycanroc is the other pokemon that i really like (other than Gogoat)
And it has a better odds of getting in than Gogoat

[lethal roost]

harsh, but true

[grave jolt]

Lycanroc comes with the prevo, so it's worth it for me 😌

[glossy osprey]

what is even more harsh is guzzlord's chances of getting in, my el gran maja dreams

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-rockruff-rowlet-litten-jump-gif-9192356

[lethal roost]

can i interest you in trevenant at least? 🥺

[thorny ferry]

No bruxishes?

[sweet dune]

I 180d on bruxish

[sweet dune]

I used to despise it, now I find it funny

[crystal portal]

I been morbidly watching the art channels for months watching the artists here grind their way to having the whole 'dex done, and finding out a pile of new Pokemon are coming had me scared for y'all.

Then I see some folks getting ahead of it, damn good job.

[thorny ferry]

You are the first person that I see vouching for heatmor

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

[lethal roost]

gotta get on that goat grind 😎

[grave jolt]

I should've made another bottom tier called "superhell" just for bruxish, like I was originally gonna.

[craggy lynx]

That Mr.Mime fusion is just....

Something else man

[lethal roost]

could easily be more cursed don't tempt fate

[thorny ferry]

Which of the two

[craggy lynx]

Bruxish/Miltank fusion could have it's udders form it's lip

[crystal portal]

Zygarde feels like the most "Digimon" Pokemon design, and lends itself to being fused well

[civic harness]

KAKAJA

[sweet dune]

my love for heatmor is because of the kalos pokedex book

[craggy lynx]

The fish
The literal fish that looks like Mr mime

it is just... Something else man

[lusty oxide]

[thorny ferry]

Mr. mime/bruxish is probably in my top 5 fav bruxishes

[proud igloo]

vote for goodra

tbh tho didn't know this chat existed until I finished the survey

[sturdy breach]

Votes are editable tho

[pale flame]

We should ban this user.

[lethal roost]

i will only try to convince you to vote goat :)

you're gonna see a lot of posters like this in here btw welcome to hell

[sturdy breach]

I don't think the Bruxish one is doing you any favours tbh

[craggy lynx]

[pale flame]

Immediately.

[lethal roost]

there are no other sprites and he's just as good a boy as the others

[thorny ferry]

I need them for more cursed bruxish ideas

[pale flame]

The day I get mod is the day these messages come back to haunt you.

[craggy lynx]

Come on man, it's just a ordinary Miltank/Bruxish fusion idea

[lethal roost]

even if he's yassified and unironically uses the 💅 emoji we still stan that goat

[pale flame]

🦐 beware

[lusty oxide]

Please if anyone can provide some

[thorny ferry]

Beware💅

[lusty oxide]

Bewear

[lethal roost]

I shouldn't have brought up the 💅 emoji now the bruxish stans know

[lusty oxide]

I already knew

[thorny ferry]

"Stans" there are like 3 of us iirc

[lethal roost]

...Bruxish would use that emoji though

[thorny ferry]

Especially this one

Got the nails and everything

[lusty oxide]

What about bru’ish and ursaring💅

[lethal roost]

of course bru'ish is bri'ish that's why the teeth are like that

[craggy lynx]

Ahem

Miltank/Shiinotic, Shiinotics fingers should be replaced with Miltank's udders and have milk shoot out of it, think of it as a "Hand pistol" in a somewhat literal way

that's all i have thought right now

WRONG PERSON, MY BAD (ignore the message)

[lethal roost]

Miltank/Slurpuff where it's a strawberry milkshake
This isn't cursed I just want it

[lusty oxide]

Bru’ish and Lopunny

[thin willow]

Reminder of why golisopod should be in.
1: Badass design. Powerful monster look
2: Amazing typing and coverage
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it without its crippling ability
7: Almost won worlds back in gen 8
8: Guzmas Golisopod was an absolute menace in the anime
9: Its a samurai. Wears armor. Wears the bodies of its victims
10: Scolopede and Necrozma are in alliances with us and are great mons to fuse with
11: Badass Anime references

[proud igloo]

Mareanie and toxapex would have some pretty cool fusions i feel like

[proud igloo]

Toxapex and Tentacruel

[shrewd zealot]

Vote Zygarde For mech reference

[civic harness]

I can help

KAJAJAJAJAJ

[lusty oxide]

Bru’ish and Lopunny

[thorny ferry]

I tried once but it didn't come out good at all

[lusty oxide]

What about bru’ish and ursaring

[pale flame]

Man where's my Regi love?

[thorny ferry]

should try again now that I know more about bruxish

[sturdy breach]

Gone with the wind

[pale flame]

😔
Please vote Regis, I just think they're cool and have some neat potential

[lusty oxide]

Yes

[pale flame]

Also new triple fusion

[thorny ferry]

vote regis!!1!!!1!111!1!

[pale flame]

(may be 8x weak to fighting, but that's okay)

[shrewd zealot]

And many cool reference fusion mech

[sturdy breach]

They don't have any potential tho >.< Regigigas takes care of basically all bodies. as head only Regice is interesting atm. (if there's no other mon added that's just straight up an ice body)

And to dedicate 3 slots to that is just a waste

[pale flame]

🤓 erm actually, Registeel has some very neat mech head fusions, regice for the ice body, and Regirock for an alternative for golem sprites

[thorny ferry]

there is quite no other metallic body as registeel, the only similar things are the magneton line and genesect

and regirock could have some sick fusions with rocks n shit

[lethal roost]

vote forces of nature instead

[pale flame]

Who are those again?

[sturdy breach]

Landorus etc

[pale flame]

Ew, hate those guys!

[thorny ferry]

just before I start, I want to clarify: I won't regret it

[grave jolt]

Literally the worst choice in the poll

[lethal roost]

all im saying is that the concept of a "therian form" would make for interesting body choices

[pale flame]

Be very careful.

[thorny ferry]

believe me, I won't

[lethal roost]

buddy the Tapus and the lake spirits are literally in the poll trust me it's not the worst option

[sharp nebula]

tapu slander will not be tolerated

[sturdy breach]

lake spirits and force of nature trio (incarnate) are the worst choices

[lethal roost]

i will slander them as i please

[royal drum]

Bruxfisk is in last place for me

[pale flame]

Yes it will be, they're mid.

[grave jolt]

I've never liked the force of nature trio in any form.

[lethal roost]

yeah that's... why I pointed out their Therian forms are actually interesting as a fusion concept

[lethal roost]

i want weird manbirds

[sturdy breach]

Regis are also mid, people just like the memes

[sharp nebula]

i never thought i could be more disappointed in people than i already am

[lethal roost]

i mean i could drop meloetta 3 tiers on my tierlist if that'd help

[lusty oxide]

I want more bru’ish fusions

[pale flame]

I genuinely like the regis, they have fun personality, and would make good fusions.

[sharp nebula]

do it

[lethal roost]

it was never a serious suggestion to add Forces of Nature btw i just wanted to troll

[pale flame]

Bro is trolling

[grave jolt]

Cryoganal

[lethal roost]

the rest of my tierlist is trolling too. i HATE trevenant and YOU SHOULD NEVER VOTE FOR IT >:(((((((

[pale flame]

Brother has Aromatisse in B tier and Regis in D tier

[lethal roost]

yeah bc i think the fluffy dude's cool you got a problem with em???

[grave jolt]

anyway, Pachirisu is S tier

[sturdy breach]

Valid tho

[lethal roost]

Regis used to be dead bottom believe it or not

[thorny ferry]

fixed