pif-hoenn-discussion

[final forge]

Audino does have a mega I'll give it that

[gleaming solstice]

Chansey when a pokemon pushes them:

[lusty oxide]

Chansey is a piece of raw chicken

[gleaming solstice]

For some fuckin reason

[craggy lynx]

It should happen at any moment....
At any moment........

[final forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-spider-man-spiderverse-into-the-spiderverse-clicking-gif-8798937323542139102

[gleaming solstice]

Thats a good suggestion too.

[white meadow]

I would change phantump line with Noivern and bergmite with aurorus ony cuz Noivern is cooler and Aurorus is Tyrantrums counterpart
And drampa would be switched with dhelmise

[craggy lynx]

IF mfs waitin for the next community vote pokemon to be announced

[civic harness]

Because people want more Spheal

[final forge]

I gave more pokemon than that 3s, noivern included
Those are just my top 20

[fossil kelp]

Just to get his abilities in the game plus BIG MEATY CLAW

[gleaming solstice]

Noivern is cooler than trevenant? Wildest take I've ever seen.

[atomic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/time-lapse-waiting-gif-24527492

[molten dawn]

i just wish we had more non-genned Dewgong sprites

[final forge]

Forgot clawitzer
Definitely higher than most of my top 20 list

[gleaming solstice]

True mega launcher would go hard

[fossil kelp]

I want spheal in but how do they relate to bug rock types

[lusty oxide]

Non-genned?

[molten dawn]

custom sprites

[white meadow]

Ngl it would end like Mawile fusions that noone uses the actual head

[hollow grove]

please vote for Pachirisu to make this fusion posible

[civic harness]

They need to think in potential

[gleaming solstice]

Because spheal is a bug rock type obviously

[unique flame]

why they are giving us more mons if they were at their limit before

[lusty oxide]

Non-genned is a really weird way to say that

[atomic pawn]

walrein got some potential tho Credits: @radiant briar

[craggy lynx]

The wait feels too real

[molten dawn]

well they are auto-generated

[civic harness]

Only Walrein

[white meadow]

Ngl my Favorite part about Walrein is that we get a Viable Sabertooth cat fusion

[toxic dock]

the waiting gonna give us heart attacks.

[atomic pawn]

potential is potential
also still a better choice than bruxish 💀

[fossil kelp]

I can see the head giving cool blue bandit vibes, it’s a nice color scheme as opposed to mustard yellow mawile

[white meadow]

Talking about potential

[rough hound]

Im gonna say it, dragalge would make deep sea stuff far better than dhelmise

[sullen elbow]

How is that an acomplishment?

[final forge]

Don't get me wrong I'm not arguing against the spheal line, but even sawk and throh are better than bruxish 💀

[atomic pawn]

just wanted to annoy bruxish fans

[pale osprey]

bruxish only potential is being funny

[stable vapor]

Ngl I'm just hyped that Scolipede's in, as it's literally one of my favorite mons

[fossil kelp]

Who is arguing this

[white meadow]

Atleast Bruxish is better than Marshadow and the fireflys

[white meadow]

i mean putting it as a head could just give the body an arm cannon, kinda like genesect with some fusions

[molten dawn]

i just want Dhelmise+Golurk to make Nautilus from League of legends

[white meadow]

All two of them

[glossy jewel]

one a week is how we're going about it (don't quote me on that tho)

[rough hound]

Theres far more dhelmise support than youd think

[atomic pawn]

lmao

[molten dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/seviper-attack-zangoose-pokemon-tag-team-gif-11563019

[atomic pawn]

insert monsoon's (mgrr) theme music here

[lusty oxide]

Yep that’s your pfp

[stable vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7Ni6dtQaA I gotchu

[lusty oxide]

What Pokémon do you want in though?

[fossil kelp]

I’d vote for zangoose but seviper….

[molten dawn]

there's a really high chance i dont hate the pokemon you want!

[sullen elbow]

I think pachirisu

[stable vapor]

Ngl it'd be neat to have those 2 in

[white meadow]

Abomasnow, yes or no?

[hollow grove]

yes

[white meadow]

They are double pack

• this

[atomic pawn]

probably petil- nvm its pachirisu

[stable vapor]

Ok, I'm sold

[civic harness]

Yes, they need to think about potential

[lusty oxide]

Don’t wake him

[hollow grove]

its mostly the colors i like light blue white and yellow go so good together

[atomic pawn]

im gonna throw a snowball at this thing if it wakes up 💀 (super effective btw)

[fossil kelp]

My favorite Pokémon is DEF not getting in

[hollow grove]

what is that

[white meadow]

Wich one

[fossil kelp]

Scrafty and scraggy

[lusty oxide]

Since when is snowball a move

[molten dawn]

i want to see fusions of the pikachu clones

[white meadow]

Good choices tho

[atomic pawn]

since now

[white meadow]

still more chances than masquerain

[lusty oxide]

What’s the base power

[fossil kelp]

Scrafty would just be a bunch of punk Pokémon with saggy pants

[white meadow]

Teenagers from the 80s

[fossil kelp]

And scraggy idek what he could offer so I don’t see much potential there

[atomic pawn]

1 (160 bp when used against grass- types)

[lusty oxide]

That’s…. Not how this works

[atomic pawn]

it is now

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-serena-ash-snowball-throw-pokemon-gif-17957488

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-reality-reality-can-be-whatever-i-want-infinity-gantlet-avengers-end-game-gif-13852128

[rough hound]

Look at these mons, look at them. They were they original toxtricity, the poison type punk rock fighters.

[fossil kelp]

Snivy is in the game?

[white meadow]

No

[white meadow]

The sprite is for another game

[white meadow]

Probably some fusions based on thieves

[atomic pawn]

(even bruxish fusion failed to ruin it btw)

[white meadow]

You really need good examples

[molten dawn]

i see great potential in Spheal/Trapinch and their lines

[lusty oxide]

[civic harness]

Yes.

[fossil kelp]

I can see spheal’s final evo being cool with having Icy froth effects instead of whiskers. Sort of like how coral solar has all those sea bubble effects

[white meadow]

Its a Walruss cub

[atomic pawn]

thats why it should get in

• walrein

[lusty oxide]

It’s spelled seel

[hollow grove]

sorry for pinging some one with that wasnt my itent

[fossil kelp]

I SAID SCRAFTY THOUGH

[molten dawn]

its almost like Spheal is just Sphere+Seal

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-walrus-exercise-sit-up-zoo-gif-21112066

[hollow grove]

i dint mean it to be a reply

[atomic pawn]

it is lol

[white meadow]

Walrain training in hopes to get into IF

[lusty oxide]

(He won’t)

[sharp sphinx]

fixed

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-planet-dinosaur-dinosaurs-surprised-shocked-gif-25734748

[atomic pawn]

(still has a higher chance than bruxish and petilil)

[lusty oxide]

DON’T WAKE HIM

[rough hound]

I have a proposition. Ill let anyone tell me in detail about your mon and try to convince me to vote for it (one at a time or i will cry).

All i ask in return is that you let me do the same

[hollow grove]

dont i want isnt a sentence

[white meadow]

Idk
Bruxish is a Favorite of mods and admins and Petilil exists as an overworld sprite in the game

[atomic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-rolling-snowball-out-of-control-oops-disaster-gif-13819154

[fossil kelp]

Gogoat having various grass coat types based on various Pokémon pushed with it would be neat or give other Pokémon a regal leaf cape

[sharp sphinx]

dude the V means insert in editing

[white meadow]

Someone say Gogoat?

[atomic pawn]

petilil can stay as an overworld sprite

(yes im trying to summon that thing)

[rough hound]

Mayun, i thought thatd work 😭

[lusty oxide]

Fun fact websites exist for you to make your own memes you don’t have to poorly edit someone else’s

[fossil kelp]

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-26440733

[white meadow]

They eat Butt fruits

[sullen elbow]

You got to say it three times in front of a mirror

[atomic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wildfireuv-gif-26419033

[lusty oxide]

They’re eating a-

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-pokemon-soupokailloux-seal-gif-24173644

[civic harness]

Petilil vs Spheal?

[sharp sphinx]

poetical?

[stable vapor]

Poetical?

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-tyrunt-pikachu-nom-vore-gif-24229215

[hollow grove]

potecial

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[atomic pawn]

spheal wins

[hollow grove]

i have dislexy

[radiant briar]

Updated Walrein x Empoleon Fusion

[white meadow]

Dont forget to eat your daily Pikachu

[lusty oxide]

Remember spheal is also weak to petilil

[civic harness]

Empoleon/Nosepass?

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-cartoon-eating-cartoon-man-running-gif-24721662

[white meadow]

Same thing around tho

[hollow grove]

thats just a refrenc alt also it can be done with other pokemon

[atomic pawn]

i have snowball tho i can OHKO that thing

[lusty oxide]

Yea but petilil could probably OHKO you too

[rough hound]

Does bro mean potential?

[sharp sphinx]

they did ye

[molten dawn]

it has high stats because of its ability

[radiant briar]

Not necessarily, Walrein's beard and typing are literally perfect for ice King

[stable vapor]

Man, had no idea how much of a warzone this place could be sometimes, not that I'm complaining tho

[radiant briar]

wouldn't be ice type ;)

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/walrein-pokemon-sealeo-rolling-gif-25539626

[atomic pawn]

no petilil doesnt has a move that deals 150+ damage to a specific type

[sharp sphinx]

your pfp makes me think hpow you could amke a glimorra fusion with shelgon (oc only closed ver)

[pale sparrow]

me when nihilego and furfrou

[lusty oxide]

You’re not gonna be higher level if that’s what you’re implying

[sullen elbow]

What is he also makes one up?

[white meadow]

Imagine
And than the Admins do even add it cuz its cool enough

[atomic pawn]

i have snowball

[topaz kernel]

Now it can have those stats and a different ability tho

[molten dawn]

Nihilego ❤️
Furfrou

[pale sparrow]

[white meadow]

Imagine wanting a tentacle parasite

[lusty oxide]

Petilil has leaf storm

[molten dawn]

Space jellyfish.

[tropic nacelle]

petilil

[pale sparrow]

why would you use the beta male 3d model instead of the super gigachad gen 5 sprite to advertise it?

[kindred knot]

petal dance is good enough

[atomic pawn]

i can freeze it with snowball

[sullen elbow]

He is here

[lusty oxide]

He is here

[radiant briar]

Don't spheal and petlil both have a positive matchup tho?

[rough hound]

Oh god who summoned them

[atomic pawn]

i did

[sharp sphinx]

for ally ou know thats the beta female 3d model

[tropic nacelle]

Petilil

[stable vapor]

?

[lusty oxide]

Especially with its decent spa. stat

[topaz kernel]

I did it on mobile because i wasn't at home, I'll make something swagger tmz

[radiant briar]

Archeops is good

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/hyper-beam-naganadel-naganadel-uses-hyper-beam-gif-25738162

[pale sparrow]

yeah but I don't want the counterpart, don't feel like it adds anything

[lusty oxide]

Petilil kill him quickly

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-hornet-mantis-wasp-eat-predator-gif-17201655

[atomic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-frost-snow-fight-snowball-fight-snowballs-snowball-gif-20200713

[sharp sphinx]

enough snowball argument, back to the actual propaganda

[rough hound]

I will admit, him doing bird things is quite adorable. I have a soft spot for birds being birds

[civic harness]

Well, I dont vote for the pokemons that I like, I look more for potential

[kindred knot]

liligant can quiver dance

[tropic nacelle]

Quick attack kill you

[atomic pawn]

"well, akshually, its not a bird" 🤓

[kindred knot]

also I am not voting slow ice type

[dawn pendant]

mareefrou

[atomic pawn]

i have enough hp stat to tank a quick attack

[civic harness]

Oh no, He have a png knife

[tropic nacelle]

dont care

[rough hound]

Oh, ok. Wont vote for it then /j

[lusty oxide]

Spheal has a lower base speed stat than petilil

[tropic nacelle]

petilil

[sharp sphinx]

viaility matters less than art anyways

[radiant briar]

bro it literally is the first bird what

[sharp sphinx]

it's half bird

[atomic pawn]

and 70 base hp (petilil has 45 because skill issue, i also have more BST)

[kindred knot]

i am fairly certain petilil can take an unboosted hit as well

[white meadow]

Lets be real it doesnt matter if we like petilil or Spheal...
Both die to Noivern!
Lets fucking goooo

[tropic nacelle]

Petilil doesnt care

[atomic pawn]

spheal can probably beat its preevo tho

[rough hound]

As a noivern enjoyer i approve this message. Even lil noibat sweeps tho

[undone surge]

Kid named HP Ice Claydol:

[sharp sphinx]

spheal focus

[radiant briar]

Stop the petlil vs spheal, and unite on the fact both destroy ground types
🧊 🤝 ☘️

[molten dawn]

yall are delusional, Spheal sweeps noibat and 2 shots noivern

[atomic pawn]

hmm

[tropic nacelle]

Cant argue with that petilil has no advantage against bat wellplayed

[sharp sphinx]

noivern isg great whether it > wlareinn not is irrelevent

[hollow grove]

but most people don't do that look at the people who want Spheal and Furfrou or even Marshadow all pokemon people want with almost no potential i see no one talking about Sandygast that one has some interesting potential

[atomic pawn]

ay @tropic nacelle you agree with tht?

[lusty oxide]

I’ll kill you if you try to hurt petilil

[white meadow]

Didnt they use Thunderbolt and thunder tho

[radiant briar]

Noivern seeing an Ice beam fire directly into it's bigass ears

[undone surge]

The Hidden Power Ice shaped lump in my stomach:

[tropic nacelle]

Yes ground types weak against petilil

[molten dawn]

only elec move it gets is wild charge

[sharp sphinx]

hidden power seems like a mess to manage with fusions

[white meadow]

• gets out my Scolipede so he has food*

[radiant briar]

Don't you want pacharisu?

[white meadow]

Still kills them

[lusty oxide]

Damn that’s not fair I’m on my own

[sharp sphinx]

specific sprite wouldnt happen as scrapi gone but still shows potential

[atomic pawn]

so we are allies now?

[molten dawn]

imo, wildcharge is in the bottom 10 moves of all time

[rough hound]

The dragicroadon (dragalge, toxicroak, and gastrodon) alliance stands with noivern

[kindred knot]

petilil is faster, spheal dies

[sharp sphinx]

not really theres splash spark, thundershock etc

[tame flax]

Damn the call out

[white meadow]

Fine than he Solar beams the spheal line

[tropic nacelle]

Si plus petilil already has spheal at a 3

[sullen elbow]

Spanish petilil

[sharp sphinx]

focus sash? guess they could both have

[molten dawn]

takes 2 turns, which spheal kills in with prio

[white meadow]

And your a Miscolord Fairy

[sharp sphinx]

does spheal get ice shard?

[hollow grove]

yes but that one has potential in colour there are a lot of other pokemon with the same colours as spheal

[molten dawn]

pr sure

[lusty oxide]

Also you seem to like failing shiny’s

[white meadow]

I would wonder about the Calc

• isnt there a Item to instant shoot it?

[tropic nacelle]

Ahem hello yes its me petilils manager i type all her messages cause she cant reach the keyboard and her stubs cant hit all the keys

[white meadow]

Nah but Sylveon is actually a nice shiny

[tropic nacelle]

Petilil supports this message

[molten dawn]

as it turns out, no it doesnt

[sharp sphinx]

why does she talk about so many atrocities?

[tame flax]

But petilil can just use leaf storm for the ohko, even if spheal had iceshard, based on the damage of ice beam, it wouldn't be enough to ohko, spheal loses completely

[hollow grove]

i like petilil more because of its Hisuian evolution

[sharp sphinx]

wouldn't ya use blizzard?

[atomic pawn]

guys just stfu we are allied now

[white meadow]

Than I use my Fav Mon (that also just got in)
It beats Spheal and Petilil with ease

[lusty oxide]

We friends now

[molten dawn]

check frost breath with specs?

[sharp sphinx]

pretend theres no flower

[tropic nacelle]

she watches alot of war documentories (she naps in between them so she really doesnt know what shes talking about)

[tame flax]

Then the spheal would still lose because it's slower

[rough hound]

Ok but like, toxicroak one shots both petilil AND spheal

[sharp sphinx]

but she say she commited them

[atomic pawn]

shut up or im calling walrein

[tropic nacelle]

I have she hasnt... yet

[hollow grove]

there good but to many slots will be used

[sharp sphinx]

they're*

[lusty oxide]

UMMMM WHAT?

[rough hound]

Call him, hes still getting clapped

[kindred knot]

legendary should not be added, ultra beast better

[radiant briar]

beasts*

[tropic nacelle]

Petilil

[atomic pawn]

walrein has a ground type move tho (earthquake)

[civic harness]

Oh, did they become friends?

[sullen elbow]

They are separated on the poll

[lusty oxide]

Don’t deflect me like that

[sharp sphinx]

I do think beast boosts would be kinda lame in context of fusing where it's just a one size fits all thing, undermines the mix and match

[radiant briar]

legendaries*

[sharp sphinx]

add text saying having nubs for hands

[rough hound]

Toxicroak has 20 more speed i dont wanna hear it

[vestal monolith]

Okay. But hear me out. Mightyena.

[tame flax]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[vestal monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/mightyena-gif-25825783

[rough hound]

Sorry man, but rockruff and lycanroc are just overall better dogs

[sharp sphinx]

lycarock line feels like a better investement with 3 bodies

[radiant briar]

I like the boy but he is just worse Houndoom in every way

[atomic pawn]

110 hp 90 defense, gl on atleast 2h-koing walrein

[sharp sphinx]

zygardew also comes with a dog

[civic harness]

Well, the ultra beasts that should be there would be Kartana and Stakataka, but even spriters consider them difficult to make sprites

[craggy lynx]

That's of course assuming that Lycanroc would actually come with the other forms

[earnest mortar]

Vote for Kommo-o please

[sharp sphinx]

I assume it wouldnt but they'd get used in fusions

[rough hound]

Two words, close combat

[hollow grove]

yes that's one reason there so difficult to make

[vestal monolith]

Mightyena is such an underrated mon tho. We should champion the underdogs

[radiant briar]

they might average the stats or something and have the forms shine thru fusions

[tropic nacelle]

too late

[tame flax]

Technically mightyenas closer to a cat than a dog

[rough hound]

???

[atomic pawn]

good idea to lower your defense stat

[sharp sphinx]

whatever hyenas are mightyena is more dog

[lusty oxide]

Sylveon

[radiant briar]

it's true

hyenas are closer to lions than wolves

[vestal monolith]

Plus, think of the emo looks we can give Pokémon with Mightyena's design?

[earnest mortar]

Yes they are

[rough hound]

And? Im still faster than both the prevos

[kindred knot]

ez

[lusty oxide]

Aren’t hyenas closer to rats

[radiant briar]

WHO THE HELL RUNS MAX SPEED WALREIN??????

[atomic pawn]

spd means nothing, regieleki would be strongest mon lol

[tame flax]

Hyenas are in a weird group, but to simplify it, they're dog shaped cats, like how scolipede is a horse shaped centipede

[kindred knot]

I make it 252 HP, it will still be 2hko with drain punch. Doesnt matter

[sullen elbow]

Why are we still arguing about matchups?

[vestal monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1140371132172746782/1140371132361482473/Mightizard-1.png_2.png

[molten dawn]

this is a hypothetical 1v1, walrein would NEVER use HDB

[atomic pawn]

iapapa berry tho

[lusty oxide]

Oh yeah hyenas are cats just looked it up

[rough hound]

Bro, fighting is supereffective against ice, as long as i move first (toxi also gets priority) im one shotting. Give up

[kindred knot]

walrein is also on ZU whereas toxicoak is at UU, it says something

[pure flower]

So. As far as I'm guessing, Froslass and Lurantis both seem to be decently popular?

[tame flax]

Dry skin is also a dope ability

[vestal monolith]

Plus Mightyena has access to both Moxie and Intimidate, which are incredible abilities that can be useful in fusions

[tame flax]

Straight up water immunity, it definitely makes parasect fusions fun

[kindred knot]

how to make walrein good? by not having ice type

[tame flax]

So does gyarados and he's already in, krookodile too

[lusty oxide]

Did you just-

[tame flax]

And he's arguably a better dark type

[vestal monolith]

Yes, but he's got that really cool design on top of it

[pure flower]

Isn't Water Absorb in via Vaporeon?

[molten dawn]

yes

[tame flax]

Not worth 2 slots for something that does the same thing but worse than an existing mon

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/vaporeon-gif-26366504

[vestal monolith]

I will continue to insist that Mightyena would be a very good pick due to multiple reasons

[hollow grove]

yes i did i think i dont know what your implying

[tame flax]

Dry skin is slightly different, as well as a completely different typing

[tropic nacelle]

heres petilils manager teirlist

[vestal monolith]

It is unappreciated in its time

[molten dawn]

i like it because it adds variety to the early game

[tame flax]

And it won't be until it gets a cross gen evo

[pure flower]

Aa I see.

[lusty oxide]

You super reacted your own meme

[rough hound]

We do not need 3 leaf women

[tropic nacelle]

why not

[lusty oxide]

Yes we do

[tame flax]

Lilligant and tsareena bring different tools to the table

[vestal monolith]

Wow. The Bruxish burn

[rough hound]

Yall trippin if you think we need 3 leaf women, 2 of which being 3 stages. Thats 8 slots

[hollow grove]

i didn't start with that also i don't know why that's a problem its just a reply emote

[sullen elbow]

What does lilligant bring?

[white meadow]

i still don't get how do those work

[kindred knot]

Quiver dance, petal dance, own tempo all in one pokemon.

[vestal monolith]

Why do we even want Tsareena? I don't see the appeal

[tropic nacelle]

A pretty palet not to mention but should be pretty early game and the only other options are poison and sunkern and not to be mean but i dont really like either and would prefer a pure grass type and petilil and lilligant has amazing move pool and pretty good base stats

[lusty oxide]

It has a cool animation and you can only use a limited amount per day (only one for free users)

[tame flax]

High special attack, above average speed, and can spam an op move without any downside

[stuck cave]

Big dress

[white meadow]

"we need new pokemon to infinte fusion" 🔥

[tame flax]

Tsareena has high attack and trop kick

[shrewd zealot]

exacely

[tropic nacelle]

Just so everyone knows This is petilils manager teir list and this other one is petilil list

[vestal monolith]

Petilil or Tsareena. Choose one. I will not allow both

[stuck cave]

How did you make this tierlist

[tame flax]

Both

[lusty oxide]

Too bad you’re gonna have to

[molten dawn]

Lurantis. it gets Contrary

[tropic nacelle]

https://tiermaker.com/create/pokemon-infinite-fusion-new-pokemon-16034815

[vestal monolith]

We do not need to fill our slots with nothing but Grass types, my guy

[stuck cave]

Time to whip up propaganda

[tame flax]

Not to mention it would finally give us solar blade

[tropic nacelle]

why not

[vestal monolith]

Lack of variety

[tame flax]

Watch us

[white meadow]

solar blade groudon lurantis

[vestal monolith]

I'll watch you, alright

[tame flax]

Or ninetales, or even torkoal if it gets in

[lusty oxide]

Damn Lurantis with a Groudon head is gonna be weird

[tame flax]

I'd imagine lurantis would be the head

[white meadow]

eh i said groudon because 150 attack

[vague oar]

Im once again asking you to vote a 3 for Torkoal so I can finally make my triple tortoise fusion
Torkoal propaganda

[lusty oxide]

That… would also be weird

[rough hound]

ok so, we clearly know by now who everyones voting a 3, but im curious. what mons are you guys voting 2?

[vestal monolith]

Again. This is why I'm rooting for the obvious underdog here. Mightyena has such untapped potential that almost no one else here can see

[pale osprey]

this is my 2 list:

[lusty oxide]

It’s an undercat not dog /j

[tropic nacelle]

See my problem with that is this simple fact... Pokemon Infinite Fusion is a game where you can fuse two pokemon to make a new unique one... adding any pokemon of any type makes it too wear there are now +1000 Pokemon added to the game. Whos to say 3 GRASS TYPES IS TOO MUCH??? In my opinion its a blessing were getting any knew pokemon and even if it is all grass types thats ok because its +20000 NEW POKEMON!

[hard token]

Tsareena

[tame flax]

Anything besides furry bait that isn't already done by the kroko?

[vestal monolith]

I mean, that's a valid point

[rough hound]

most of these are solid picks that you cant go wrong with, but WHY IS SURSKIT THERE

[white meadow]

no way another masquerain fan

[vestal monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1140371132172746782/1140371132361482473/Mightizard-1.png_2.png

[tame flax]

So just furry bait?

[pale osprey]

100% cuz of masquerain, i like it a lot

[vestal monolith]

How is this furry bait?

[rough hound]

you can have your opinion, but i dunno about that one chief

[radiant briar]

I will not bear smack from the man who wants PACHARISU in the game

[tame flax]

Throw it to the wolves, they'll create eldritch nightmares

[pale mortar]

The boi!

[pale osprey]

well yea thats the point

[vestal monolith]

Throwing slander for absolutely no reason, wow

[white meadow]

I did vote him already

[tropic nacelle]

The only lack of variety that i can see is simply a lack of creativity when making a fusions. Im not saying the "Pixel artist are lazy and suck" if anything im surprised they even like making sprites because it takes so long. Theres hundreds of 1000s of ideas anyone can give and make but 1 spriter has to make that one sprite and you can do almost anything with any pokemon. again i see where your point is i just dont understand how a typing should lock a pokemon behind getting voted

[tame flax]

All I really need to say is that it offers nothing gameplay wise, calling it fur bait is just a bonus

[vestal monolith]

Ah, so you admit it. Throwing slander for no reason. Nice

[tropic nacelle]

anyways sorry for the rant Petilil will be taking over for a bit while i go play some TF2 or Terratia modded

[hard token]

typing really shouldnt matter i think theres plenty of pokemon for each type considering what game this is 😭

[radiant briar]

ice has jack shit

[tame flax]

I think the game part of the game is more important than fur bait

[lusty oxide]

Petilil is spitting facts

[hard token]

thats why i want the snorunt line in 🫡

[radiant briar]

I literally tried to plan a mono ice run and couldn't get enough early game pokemon to do it without grinding insanely

[radiant briar]

spheal too ;)

[white meadow]

no

[vestal monolith]

Frankly, IF isn't a competitive game, so I don't see why being extremely viable is really that important

[vague oar]

That’s why we need Crabominable

[pale osprey]

i personally dont care about typing majority or "too many legendaries" or any of that stuff, its all about how much I like the pokemon with a side of "potential" and number of slots

[pale mortar]

AGREED

[tame flax]

Also that fusion you posted would suck to use, charizard is special mightyena is physical, it would be a hassle to use, you'd need to inverse it

[hard token]

mono runs are gonna be hard if youre not choosing stuff thats easy to get early on

[molten dawn]

Emolga, Chimecho, Skuntank, Jellicent, Amoonguss, Camerupt, Gastrodon, Swalot, Staraptor, Gourgeist, Crustle, Cherrim, Purugly, Shiinotic, Pyroar, Pallossand, Abomasnow, Crabominable, Komala, Seismitoad, Crawdaunt, Zebstrika, Manectric, Oranguru/Passimian, Barbaracle, Beartic, Hippowdon, Cacturne, Mightyena, Shiftry, Golisopod, Lilligant, Carnivine, Beheeyem, Tropius, Lumineon, Heatmor, Claydol, Whiscash, Solrock/Lunatone, Scrafty

[white meadow]

they should totally introduce multiplayer, it will totally not create a meta of like 9 fusions!

[vague oar]

Crabominable would be hilarious as head, making every Mon a yeti

[white meadow]

and giving it the ugliest bowl cut ever

[tame flax]

Imagine the size of each tier

[vestal monolith]

I will say it again. Why does it matter that much how viable it is? It might not be optimal, but it's cool

[white meadow]

and there is a tier of just shedinja fusions

[sullen elbow]

Lando T would somehow end up as one of those even if he isn't in the game

[tame flax]

But it's not fun, being fun to play is more important than looks, I'd sooner use a custom less sprite that's fun to play before that hot garbage you present as justification for a mediocre dog cat

[vestal monolith]

Wow

[rough hound]

im gonna start a fight, abomasnow is a much cooler ice type than spheal

[pale osprey]

agreed

[lusty oxide]

Don’t you DARE start an argument

[tropic nacelle]

petilil back

[white meadow]

agreed

also snow warning

[lusty oxide]

Agreed

[white meadow]

does any pokemon already in even have snow warning?

[molten dawn]

froslass best ice type

[pale osprey]

also agreed, because all 3 mons are unique and interesting

[rough hound]

yep, no question there

[tame flax]

Besides if it's the aesthetic you want, just vote lycanroc, same aesthetic except good

And actually a dog

[molten dawn]

my problem with Lycanroc is they will probably only add 1 form, or take up 4 slots

[tame flax]

What did it show on the poll?

[molten dawn]

day form

[pale osprey]

its 2 slots as far as im aware, only day form

[vestal monolith]

Okay, fine. You are obviously someone who I cannot appeal to to save my life, so I will choose to ignore you before things that shouldn't be said are said. You can't look past stats and numbers and just see that maybe there are Pokémon that, while not completely viable, might just be something that someone actually wants. Being good doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct choice. My favorite Pokémon is goddamn Kecleon, and it is garbage in practically every way. So thank you for your valuable opinion

[rough hound]

im actually surprised i havent seen anything for zeraora in here tbh. dont get me wrong, im glad (hes cool but lucario already does it better), but im still surprised

[white meadow]

oh wow there is no snow warning, i should change my abomasnow vote

[pale osprey]

im not even trying, but he is 3 for me

[molten dawn]

i barely remember Zeraora exists

[pale osprey]

thats why im not trying, zeraoras release is just the worst ever, people dont know him enough to vote him in

[molten dawn]

anyone remember Zarude?

[thorny ferry]

Give bruxish a three or Mr.Mime/Bruxish will appear in your blanket at 2:42 am

[tame flax]

Kecleon has protean, fuse it to an aerodactyl and go to town

[lusty oxide]

Who does?

[tropic nacelle]

petilil

[thorny ferry]

As one of the 5 people that watched zarude's movie, yes

[white meadow]

oh yeah the lamer shiftry

[tame flax]

And you, this hell spawn will never make it in

[lusty oxide]

I legit only remembered cos you mentioned it

[sullen elbow]

Better grass monkey from gen 8

[tame flax]

Why torture our visual receptors with its taint?

[white meadow]

why not

[molten dawn]

i'd be more afraid of that bruxish/spheal

[lusty oxide]

Please make this real it would be so funny

[thorny ferry]

Bruxish's appearance in Infinite Fusion will be jesus' second coming

[vestal monolith]

Yeah. See, I'm done arguing with you, and this is why. I'm gonna ignore you now because you know better than everyone else what should be added and what shouldn't. BTW, I'm giving Bruxish a 3 to spite you specifically now

[thorny ferry]

Hell yeah

[tame flax]

It's the least popular mon in dead last and there are no more staff votes from here on out

[thorny ferry]

It's third last, actually

[pale osprey]

do we have a popularity ranking?

[white meadow]

who said that venipede was gonna be the only staff vote?

[lusty oxide]

Voting 3 on bruxish is based

[pale osprey]

wait how do you know

[lusty oxide]

I mean bru’ish

[tame flax]

One of the mods

[thorny ferry]

Someone posted the dead last mons

[pale osprey]

in here? dang i wanna see that

[sullen elbow]

Couldnt that have changed since then?

[rough hound]

Im recruiting gastrodon enjoyers, who wants to help out the cool nudibranch pokemon?

[pale osprey]

im a gastrodon enjoyer, its a 3 for me

[thorny ferry]

Thanks to my propaganda, it could have either went to fourth last or second last

There is no way of knowing which one

[tame flax]

You think one of the least popular mons has a chance to rising to top 19 when there about several hundred options?

[silk narwhal]

this is outdated, it's missing like 6 other sprites, but look how many there are anyways

[rough hound]

would you like to join my alliance? you dont need to like any of the other mons if you dont wanna

[white meadow]

nah i totally voted 69420 on bruxish 👍

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[thorny ferry]

Based💪

[pale osprey]

tbh i dont have much hopes for him even if i like him a lot, and im already coping with naganadel propaganda

[silk narwhal]

if noivern gets in (it will) i'll finally be able to make a decent morrigan sprite

[vestal monolith]

Voting 3 for Mightyena would also be based

[lusty oxide]

No

[vestal monolith]

[tame flax]

That sounds like a cringe alliance

[lusty oxide]

Purrlion is better

[vestal monolith]

No one would expect the Mightyena tho

[rough hound]

id be willing to vote naganadel high if you spread a bit of gastrodon propoganda 👀

[lethal roost]

I want Mightyena because i love it but Lycanroc just does it better 😔

[vestal monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/mightyena-mightyenatuesday-gif-25825745

[pale osprey]

this just displays that kirlia is adorable

[manic forum]

Vote 3 for Barbaracle! It’s a known fact that the more hands something has, and the more heads something has, the cooler it’s fusions will be, and this bad mother has 5 hands AND 5 heads

[vestal monolith]

Dapper boi

[rough hound]

dragalge, toxicroak, and gastrodon all happen to disagree with you

[silk narwhal]

barbaracle is one of the most forgettable pokèmon ever

[tame flax]

Not that one

[thorny ferry]

Might do a bruxish/barbaracle, sounds fun to make

[rough hound]

oh, which one lol?

[tame flax]

All you need to complete the trifecta of cringe with mightyena and bruxish would be to add avalugg

[lethal roost]

but you could put hands all over everything and make horrifying demons

[lusty oxide]

Why does mightyena perpetually look like it’s done with all of you

[lethal roost]

hey!!!! avalugg is actually a good choice, we need a mon made of ice

[rough hound]

according to legends, arceus has a form with 1000 hands

[molten dawn]

Bruxish/Dunsparce? 2 pokemon i typically hate
maybe you can make me want to use either lmao

[lethal roost]

my Objectively Correct Opinion requires a mon made of ice to make it through

[vestal monolith]

Because it's an emo boi

[crude garden]

Goomy is the only line I'm really dead set on seeing added, but there's plenty of ones that will be really cool if they make it

[thorny ferry]

I'll try

[halcyon sequoia]

If Solgaleo eventually makes the game, I hope their shiny is made into being black rather than its ugly as hell red

[sharp nebula]

Meloetta has brought you an apple, make sure you eat it and give her a 3 to stay healthy!

[rough hound]

i forget if i already asked you, would you like to join the dragalge, toxicroak, and gastrodon (dragicroadon) alliance?

[lusty oxide]

What was that you said under your breath

[halcyon sequoia]

We need meloetta tbh

[pale osprey]

for me if goomy and meloetta makes it ill be happy, the rest are extras, im not afraid for necrozma which is my other really want. stuff like liligant and gastrodon i just find are cute good pokemon

[lethal roost]

sure but my name is full and i'm in too many servers. i'll join in spirit

[molten dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/crush-claw-zangoose-pokémon-zangoose-zangoose-uses-crush-claw-gif-25917736

[white meadow]

And what should I do with the Apple?

[lusty oxide]

I want to be in IF but I also don’t wanna become this

[molten dawn]

give me my mongoose!

[rough hound]

thats fair enough, want the propoganda posters?

[surreal chasm]

Stop everything ya'll. The next pokemon to join infinite fusion was right under our nose this whole time.

[pale osprey]

brb kicking that thing down

[lethal roost]

sure post them but ill probably only repost the dragalge one

[molten dawn]

its a regional Vanillite, this ones ground type

[white meadow]

Why should I eat a Meloetta

[thin willow]

Reminder of why golisopod should be in.
1: Badass design. Powerful monster look
2: Amazing typing and coverage
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it without its crippling ability
7: Almost won worlds back in gen 8
8: Guzmas Golisopod was an absolute menace in the anime
9: Its a samurai. Wears armor. Wears the bodies of its victims
10: Scolopede and Necrozma are in alliances with us and are great mons to fuse with
11: Badass Anime references

[rough hound]

Every bit helps!

[white meadow]

Hes right

[surreal chasm]

I'd really love to see Croagunk I'm honestly suprised it's not in the game already

[molten dawn]

why is the Mew/Skrelp so cute

[lethal roost]

I keep forgetting that adding Golisopod adds First Impression + Liquidation if Araquanid doesn't get in

[pale osprey]

i like croagunk but i dont like toxicroak

[desert shoal]

Reminder to put some 3s down for Drampa! ♡ Vote for soft fluffy boys!

[rough hound]

feel free to join us, we can cook up some more propaganda

[molten dawn]

Also the Altaria/Dragalge is dope

[rough hound]

I KNOW! HES SO CUTE!

[rough hound]

then vote croagunk, im all for that

[pale osprey]

i cant, cuz of toxicroak

[white meadow]

Lets vote Acheops so we can have it and its copycat in team

[molten dawn]

you dont need to evolve it

[rough hound]

why not? just dont evolve it

[pale osprey]

but it does take a slot

[molten dawn]

so croagunk alone isnt worth 2 slots to you? you dont seem to like it that much then

[surreal chasm]

Then you agree to join the sand gang

[hard token]

where can i find the post with the dead last mons ?

[pale osprey]

yea i like it but not enough for 2 slots for him

[tame flax]

he is a boring ass table mon that suffers from SITS, slow ice type syndrome, he is bad by the very fact that he is ice and slow, and hes such ass not even a regional form could make him relevant

[rough hound]

palosand wasnt top 20, but i would definitely love to see my favorite goofy sand castle

[lethal roost]

i mean if you're only voting on ingame stats that's valid and i respect it but then you should at least vote cryogonal

[surreal chasm]

Yeah but imagine ANY pokemon as a goofy sand castle

[lethal roost]

cryogonal is basically built to be a head mon and isn't abysmally slow

[tame flax]

well that bought my vote

[turbid wigeon]

Pallosand is peak.

[molten dawn]

my top 20 only has 2 pokemon voted for a reason other than their fusion potential

[rough hound]

that is in fact based. wanna join the server i made or just be a supporter in here?

[tame flax]

also voted vanilluxe

[turbid wigeon]

We must get Pallosand in for the peak fusions it would bring.

[mystic crystal]

Cryogonal would be awful for bodies though; and also it's cryogonal - anything unique it can bring could be done by better pokemon

[lethal roost]

for a snow warning mon or for a different reason?

[turbid wigeon]

Like Vaniluxe.

Mainly the ice cream mon for ice cream related fusions. Hot fudge ice cream fusion with Camerupt.

[mystic crystal]

If we're voting for an ugly single stage pokémon; vote Bruxish, not Cryogonal 😉

[lethal roost]

Vanilluxe < Slurpuff for desserts tbh

[turbid wigeon]

I just want Pallosand in game.

[tame flax]

just a fun guy with decent stats

[turbid wigeon]

We got Scolipede which is actually really cool for fusions.

[lethal roost]

fair

[leaden gazelle]

yeah but then you have to use a slurpuff

[tame flax]

okay but what if both fused tho

[stone cliff]

Ice Cream Cake

[lethal roost]

slurpuff's not terrible it gets unburden and belly drum you could work with that

[turbid wigeon]

And I have no idea why Sabelye wasn't in to begin with.

[tame flax]

slurpuff is a monster, and anyone who says otherwise has never looked at its move pool

[turbid wigeon]

The two choices so far are both solid. Does the Scolipede line count as 3 Pokemon here or just one?

[cedar mortar]

Cactus Gang

[leaden gazelle]

it doesnt count towards the 20

[molten dawn]

0, staff choice doesnt use slots

[pale osprey]

scolipede is free, dev choice

[tame flax]

none, it was separate

[lethal roost]

it's also, weirdly enough, one of the very few mons to get Sticky Web, being a cotton candy mon. the stats leave a bit to be desired though but the movepool makes up for it

[turbid wigeon]

So like does each line count all stages or just as one Pokémon?

[tame flax]

fuse it with a strong head

[lethal roost]

each line counts all stages but Scolipede doesnt count bc the staff picked it

[stone cliff]

All stages

[vague oar]

Torkoal propaganda once again

[pale osprey]

each pokemon in a line is one slot. cosmog line is 4 (why its dead)

[molten dawn]

pallossand will count as 2

[turbid wigeon]

So the starters and Scolipede don't count for anything?

[tame flax]

you think its dead

[pale osprey]

starters wont make it in for now

[stone cliff]

Not getting the starters yet

[lethal roost]

Starters are completely out of the running

[pale osprey]

i hope its dead, with all my heart. i refuse to live in a world cosmog line takes 4 slots

[turbid wigeon]

I mean the fact we'll probably get the starters later anyway.

[surreal chasm]

Im confident torkoal will make it

[tame flax]

but nebby tho

[surreal chasm]

Convince me

[lethal roost]

man if only i had that kind of confidence about the 🐐

[pale osprey]

1/5 of the slots for one line? nah

[stone cliff]

We riot until they give us Solgaleo and Lunala without Nebby

[turbid wigeon]

Honestly reduce Cosmog to only count as 3 given that it counting as 4 is 1/5 of our total Pokemon.

Completely absurd rate.

[pale osprey]

i would vote lunala/sol if it was separate yea

[thorny hinge]

sits calmly, begging for Victini

[lethal roost]

the slots exist due to a technical limitation, not because they feel like it. in order to do this they'd have to remove one of the mons remove Lunala

[molten dawn]

honestly this is the only line that would make sense to remove the pre-evolutions

[pale osprey]

lunala has the most interesting shape and color scheme of all of them

[mortal flume]

no :)

[turbid wigeon]

Cosmog and Cosmoem add nothing to the game.

[lethal roost]

chaotic evil: remove lunala

[pale osprey]

lunala is like the only reason why i like that line

[turbid wigeon]

It's adding Magikarp in again a second time

[tame flax]

but its evos do

[thorny hinge]

People wanna fight me over Victini still?

[stone cliff]

The number of slots is arbitrary, no specific limitations

[molten dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-see-you-in-hell-go-to-hell-devil-wave-gif-16901310

[surreal chasm]

Ok but why would I pick another dog

[stone cliff]

But the more they add the more it'll hurt performance

[turbid wigeon]

Same reason why nothing from past gen 7 is a choice.

Kingambit and Dudunsparce not being choices can't be for technical reasons. It makes no sense

[tame flax]

take that up with the devs

[pale osprey]

they have said there is an engine limitation, we dont know that these 20 are the absolute cap but we do know there is a cap and we are close to it

[lethal roost]

yeah that's kind of why we have a slot limit? it's not arbitrary why they're limiting the slots

[mortal flume]

you pick whatever you want I just think poochyena and mightyena are neat :)

[lethal roost]

eh i respect the energy

[stone cliff]

Right, I just meant that they don't need to remove one to add one, just that adding the additional one might affect performance. Soft cap vs hard cap

[quasi cave]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-rockruff-bark-cute-pokemon-gif-16420672

[turbid wigeon]

Rockruff will probably get in

[raw bison]

Every pokemon added requires adding in every fusion with every other pokemon resulting in a factoral increase. We're at 420 base mons right now, which means adding one mon (sableye) means adding 840 fusions along with it that the game has ro at least have sprites for.

[surreal chasm]

Don't get me wrong I love Poochyena but I feel like it wouldn't really bring anything new to the table

[turbid wigeon]

Well we're basically guaranteed Zygarde tbh?

The legends have the best chance of getting in.

[pale osprey]

I made the IF fusion formula, its

[lethal roost]

I think we're guaranteed a legend, I couldn't tell you which set though

[thorny hinge]

Am I weird for really not liking the Toothpaste Dragon

[turbid wigeon]

Honestly it really depends on which one is the favorite.

[lethal roost]

no that's a valid opinion i can respect it, consider the other two forms it brings with it though

[thorny hinge]

Victini.

[turbid wigeon]

A lot of the Mythicals also will drive demand towards themselves.

[tame flax]

im betting cosmog

[turbid wigeon]

Victini is a Mythical, not Legendary

[lethal roost]

im gonna be 100% honest I don't think a good portion of the mythicals have that kind of potential even with the backing behind them

*glances behind me to make sure Marshadow isn't there*

[thorny hinge]

Still like you said. Mythicals drive demand. We already have Jirachi

Why not his sibling?

[pale osprey]

cuz meloetta is better

[lethal roost]

i mean that's the same reason every other mythical gets though?

why not zeraora then? or (god forbid) Volcanion

[pale osprey]

i have zeraora as a 3 as well, but it wont make it cuz of its horrible release date

i bet 1% of the people here have actually used zeraora

[lethal roost]

yeah zeraora is at 2 for me I don't hate it

[turbid wigeon]

Marshadow has the best odds out of all of them probably just for Spectral Theft lol

[pale osprey]

its another reason why i wish he makes it, zeraora is cool and completely forgotten

[turbid wigeon]

That move on a fusion is going to be a beast

[lethal roost]

i mean yeah I could say the same thing about Plasma Fists as a 100 BP 100 acc Physical Electric move on a mon that's far better fusion material than Raichu (volt tackle)

[white meadow]

and then they proceeded to give a shiny zeraora for free

[lethal roost]

or hell let's see if Hoopa's allowed to have Hyperspace Fury or smth

[turbid wigeon]

Still surprised nothing from Gen 8 and 9 are choices though

[white meadow]

like not even a raid or something, just "here take your free shiny mythical"

[turbid wigeon]

Kingambit would be ruling the polls if it was on them.

[white meadow]

kinda wish they gave diancie instead

[pale osprey]

this leads to most people just not using it ever lol, i dropped the games at gen 7 so ill prob skip the gen 8 and 9 votes if they do happen in the future

[thin willow]

Reminder of why golisopod should be in.
1: Badass design. Powerful monster look
2: Amazing typing and coverage
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it without its crippling ability
7: Almost won worlds back in gen 8
8: Guzmas Golisopod was an absolute menace in the anime
9: Its a samurai. Wears armor. Wears the bodies of its victims
10: Scolopede and Necrozma are in alliances with us and are great mons to fuse with
11: Badass Anime references

[lethal roost]

hey make sure to mention "it adds First Impression and Liquidation" those are specific adds that it has that are nice

[thick ivy]

Reasons why new ice and bug types should be the primary make up of the new update:

They're cool and we need more of them

[turbid wigeon]

Can the Sandygast gang join your alliance?

[thorny hinge]

Oh you won't even vote for best birb Corviknight?

[white meadow]

yeah sword and shield was pretty disappointing for me, and im not even bothering with gen 9 because it looks so ass

[thin willow]

Not up to me. Ask rick

[pale osprey]

i mean i would but idk anything about him since i skipped the games

[turbid wigeon]

Which Rick?

[thorny hinge]

If I get a chance to get my Hammer Boi in. I'm taking it

[turbid wigeon]

Tinkaton would also be really cool.

[thorny hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/tinkaton-a-mimir-sleep-pokemon-gif-27158584

[lethal roost]

come to think of it Zygarde's signatures would be sick on other mons 🤔

[lusty oxide]

She is eepy

[lethal roost]

depends on whether or not it actually gets access to Thousand Arrows/Waves and Core Enforcer tho

[white meadow]

yeah a ground fairy would be completely unresisted with thousand arrows

[thorny hinge]

Tinkaton, Steel Fairy...Megaton Hammer on a Mon with actual Attack though...

[lethal roost]

and the good news is Zygarde is a better body mon than it is a head since it has to pass on Ground

[rough hound]

fuse it with a corviknight for torture

[thorny hinge]

Plus an excuse to make Aegislash just a giant ass hammer

[turbid wigeon]

They should re-do the poll and just add on Tinkaton.

[lethal roost]

Tinkaton/Corviknight is just a Tinkaton trying to smack Corviknight with its hammer while clinging to its neck

[white meadow]

meh the problem is the coding, they cannot add post gen 7 stuff

[thorny hinge]

It's like Aegislash/Magikarp where he's eating him

[turbid wigeon]

Why can't they? It doesn't make sense as a technological limitation.

[thorny hinge]

We've got Gen 6 mons

[turbid wigeon]

Like I'm genuinely confused.

[lethal roost]

it's because the game is made for Gen 7 and in order to do Gen 8 they'd have to update every moveset and add every gen 8 move and that seems like more trouble than its worth

i genuinely can't think of another gen 8 mon that I'd even want in this game. eternatus maybe? i don't like most of that dex

[turbid wigeon]

Tinkaton is the only cool one from Gen 9

Besides Gholdengo

[paper pasture]

Uhm, delibird mecha

[lethal roost]

yeah the devs would have to do a ton of work getting everything updated for like one mon.

[white meadow]

they made delibird op!

[lethal roost]

maybe two. it's just not worth tbh

[paper pasture]

And chien pao

[stone cliff]

I genuinely dislike the mechamons

[turbid wigeon]

Iron Bundle better come with Flutter Mane for the lols.

[stable vapor]

And all they had to do was give him a gun

[stone cliff]

If only for the explanation of "This is what the Pokemon will eventually become"

[lethal roost]

the only one I can appreciate is (DLC spoiler) ||Iron Crown|| everything else is lame as hell

[white meadow]

they should at least tried with the future paradoxes instead of just "haha robot"

[eternal wigeon]

to be fair the animations are pretty good

[stone cliff]

Or at least been like "yeah some guy made these"

[lethal roost]

they should have also tried with the shinies of the future paradoxes, they're barely visible on some of them and they're all chrome 😭

[turbid wigeon]

Technically they're Turo's pipe dreams realized by the Area Zero crystals, not the actual future forms of those Pokémon.

[thorny hinge]

Iron Hunter's cool

[stone cliff]

Sure, but that's as lame as "Gigantamax doesn't actually make them big, it's just an illusion"

[rough hound]

dont sleep on my boy ||raging bolt|| he is ||LONG||

[lethal roost]

anyway yeah the paradoxes would be super lame for this game since they're just remixes of pokemon we already have but weird / mecha

[thorny ferry]

@molten dawn bruxish/dunsparce has been created

[thorny hinge]

And Iron Valiant is sick...

[lusty oxide]

It’s perfect

[lethal roost]

im talking about the Future Paradoxes not the new DLC mons

[kindred knot]

Mega is best gimmick you can’t convince me otherwise

[rough hound]

oh, fair enough

[turbid wigeon]

Tinkaton and Gholdengo are the only cool ones. Kingambit, Figiraf, and Dudunsparce are just evolutions of Pokemon already ingame and could work well.

[cosmic star]

If croagunk gets through I will die of happiness I wanna see his fusions so much

[stone cliff]

I can understand megas but they felt too digimon for me (designs are sick tho)

[turbid wigeon]

And only Corviknight is cool from Gen 8

[thorny hinge]

Not even Eternatus?

[thorny ferry]

dynamax is a bit better imo

[turbid wigeon]

Can you make Scolipede/Sableye?

[white meadow]

it really is, but people like to twist the knife saying "oh only the op pokemon have it" as if dynamax and tera don't make broken pokemon even more broken

[thorny ferry]

not really my field

[turbid wigeon]

If we get Eternatus we gotta get the doggos.

[lethal roost]

i dont see what this has to do with the paradoxes and also Dudunsparce is kind of just Dunsparce.

it works as The Joke in SV but not in this game where it needs to have a different design or you're screwed

[kindred knot]

Dynamax is lame since most of the time it is just make the mon looks bigger

[rough hound]

allow me to introduce myself, im the leader of the Dragicroadon alliance, which is dragalge, your boy toxicroak, and gastrodon

[vast portal]

Disreguard other Mons, aquire Lilligant.

[thorny ferry]

true, but it makes any pokemon better

[turbid wigeon]

The Sandygast boys want to join in.

[thorny hinge]

Aegislash/ Zacian.

[rough hound]

Dm me to join the server

[stone cliff]

I just wish they'd stick to one gimmick

[turbid wigeon]

We are allying with everyone to get Sandygast in game because it's peak Pokemon.

[cosmic star]

You have exquisite and identical taste to me. Those were three of only ten or so Pokémon I ranked 3 points

[pale osprey]

its not even close, its the only good gimmick, terra is good mechanically but looks like ass

[turbid wigeon]

Heck it, if Sandygast gets in I'll drop a one year Discord Nitro gift here.

[noble hare]

For all that is pure and holy can we get drampa in the game

[digital ferry]

It’s been a while so have some Stakataka/Kartana propaganda

[turbid wigeon]

Swear on my reputation.

[rough hound]

LETS GO! wanna join the alliance? we have a server, or i can just hand off the propoganda i made for each

[white meadow]

does it really matter when people are gonna use it on the broken ones anyway?

[cosmic star]

YES SURE

[thorny ferry]

wdym

[turbid wigeon]

I will now be voting for Stakataka just for that type of design, genius.

[stone cliff]

Isn't mega evolution like, extremely painful for most of them?

[pale osprey]

i think most megas are awesome

[digital ferry]

Also here’s some more Stakataka concept art I came up w/ today

[rough hound]

some, but not most.

[turbid wigeon]

Stakataka should come with Blacephelon because the two are meant for each other.

[noble hare]

Ok this is fuckn cool

[lethal roost]

its weird because it was never mentioned at all in XY and then Sun/Moon said "HEY THAT GIMMICK FROM PREVIOUS GAME ACTUALLY BAD"

[stone cliff]

Let's not forget the best mega

[turbid wigeon]

Also Stakataka head cannon sounds badass.

[rough hound]

im still mad they never gave flygon a mega so he could finally be bug type

[pale osprey]

yea man im just scrolling through, megas are awesome https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mega_Evolution

[thin willow]

Reminder of why golisopod should be in.
1: Badass design. Powerful monster look
2: Amazing typing and coverage
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it without its crippling ability
7: Almost won worlds back in gen 8
8: Guzmas Golisopod was an absolute menace in the anime
9: Its a samurai. Wears armor. Wears the bodies of its victims
10: Scolopede and Necrozma are in alliances with us and are great mons to fuse with
11: Badass Anime references

[stone cliff]

Flygon deserves more love

[lethal roost]

he was supposed to get one in XY and then in ORAS but artist's block took him away from us 😔

[turbid wigeon]

And bringing in First Impression and Liquidation.

[white meadow]

i don't think making it a bug would do it justice, it's better off with ground

[rough hound]

hes my favorite

[thorny ferry]

the one in the bottom gives me an idea for mawile/stakataka

[turbid wigeon]

Can I join this server so the Sandygast boys can join the alliance?

[pale osprey]

flygon is a great fusion mon, make him steel dragon and its the strongest typing in the game (taking into account resistances versus weaknesses, only 2x fighting but a bunch of res)

[stone cliff]

He's probably in my top 5 (Ampharos, Typhlosion and Altaria are top 3)

[final forge]

Gonna be honest with you I don't think we have a server
But the more allies the merrier

[turbid wigeon]

If Sandygast wins I will unironically drop a one hundred dollar Nitro Gift here.

And I'll let the server pick between ten one month gifts and one one year gift.

[fierce gale]

EEL

[noble hare]

If drampa wins I’ll be very happy pls people dragon grandpa

[final forge]

Steel fairy:

[lusty oxide]

Yes that’s what that is

[turbid wigeon]

I'll also drop it if Stakataka wins because I want Stakataka now.

[rough hound]

i do like the eel ngl

[hasty mesa]

Someone needs to design a stakataka that's literally just a stack of pizza boxes pls

[pale osprey]

actually let me check if levitate steel dragon beats steel fairy

[turbid wigeon]

So yeah, vote Stakataka if you want one hundred dollars of free Nitro to be dropped in chat when it wins.

[fierce gale]

Imagine your fave pokemon but with a vortex of a mouth

[digital ferry]

Might try to post some custom Stakataka bases in the next few days so as to hopefully inspire more neat art

[final forge]

My favorite mon doesn't even have a mouth

[lethal roost]

i mean we can do that

[stone cliff]

Holup, Electric's only weakness is ground?

[white meadow]

yes?

[fierce gale]

Yep

[pale osprey]

yea flygon steel dragon beats steel fairy at 12.25 vs 13.25 points

[stone cliff]

Holy shit, I guess I never thought about it

[fierce gale]

And eel has levitate, so it's immune to ground

[final forge]

Dang

[lusty oxide]

Yes that’s why a electric terrastel with levitate is so funny

[empty swallow]

Advertising time!!!! vote for meowtic for simple, cute and cute designs!!!! =>

[final forge]

Electric shedinja with air balloon

[lusty oxide]

That’s why it’s not in S/V

[turbid wigeon]

The hazards in question:

[final forge]

And shiny naganadel makes it look like just a gigantic murder wasp

[white meadow]

zygarde with the funny thousand arrows:

[turbid wigeon]

Sandstorm and Hail would demolish it.

[molten dawn]

terrifying. i'd at least think about using it

[final forge]

True but the fact 2 weather conditions and 1 move are the only things that can kill it is still crazy

[stone cliff]

Very War of the Worlds lmao

[thorny ferry]

I'll take that considering they were your least favourite

[lethal roost]

Cool fact: This generation, Smogon got rid of the National Dex Anything Goes tier because of Tera Shedinja. Not necessarily because of Tera Electric Air Balloon, but it turns out Shedinja is really annoying when you can't tell what type it's going to be

Also because of Assist Revival Blessing

in other words they actually need rules because Tera Shedinja isn't fun to play against

[lusty oxide]

Yea but the NPC’s don’t use that kind of stuff that often which will allow you to plow trough the game with little to no resistance since no one can hit you

[pale osprey]

shedinja breaking the game since conception lmao

[fierce gale]

Lol

[stable vapor]

I see nothing has changed from earlier

Actually it looks like less of a warzone than it was earlier

[toxic dock]

calling in a UAV

[fierce gale]

Would you like that to change?

[stone cliff]

Death machine spinning up

[tropic nacelle]

Petilils manager is being held captive by el gatito

[stable vapor]

Aaaaaand the chaos comes in as if on cue

[left plover]

Is sinjoh falls accessible in IF?

[stone cliff]

Do we have a specific date when the voting is over, or is it still just "a few weeks or so"?

[lusty oxide]

Damn petilil lore is weird

[fierce gale]

Once month is over I think

[tropic nacelle]

The captivator is not petilil the captivator is name Luna

[left plover]

What's petlil's HA?

[fierce gale]

Lovely name

[lusty oxide]

Who is luna

[night oracle]

hows both the sprites going also ADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[tropic nacelle]

The gato

[lusty oxide]

The cat?

[tropic nacelle]

My what

[lethal roost]

Leaf Guard

[left plover]

Hidden ability

[tropic nacelle]

Yes

[lethal roost]

It's better with Chlorophyll tbh

[lusty oxide]

So your manager is being held captive by a cat?

[tropic nacelle]

Yes

[left plover]

solar power shell bell bellosum with solar beam and morning sun in full sunlight

[lusty oxide]

Again petilil lore is weird

[tropic nacelle]

petilil

[shrewd zealot]

No

[lusty oxide]

Sylveon

[left plover]

Even if people vote for zygarde they won't implement it because of the form changes

[tropic nacelle]

petilil

[lethal roost]

...no? there are plenty of mons with forms that are in the game
this is like "they'd never add Giratina because it changes forms"

[shrewd zealot]

They will implement snake style but we will can use other style

[lethal roost]

the most I'd say is that Power Construct might be a little weird but that's manageable

[wintry vigil]

I hope outta all of em Gastrodon gets added

[snow escarp]

As far as new legendary trios go, I hope we get either XYZ or Swords of Justice trio.

[thorny ferry]

@digital ferrymy mawile/stakataka ended up becoming a gengar

[thin willow]

Reminder of why golisopod should be in.
1: Badass design. Powerful monster look
2: Amazing typing and coverage
3: Extremly versatile
4: Amazing fusion potential
5: Overall 10/10
6: A chance to use it without its crippling ability
7: Almost won worlds back in gen 8
8: Guzmas Golisopod was an absolute menace in the anime
9: Its a samurai. Wears armor. Wears the bodies of its victims
10: Scolopede and Necrozma are in alliances with us and are great mons to fuse with
11: Badass Anime references

[lusty oxide]

I love leaf vanny

[fierce gale]

Second and last EEL

Also I did not make this, another person here did but can't find them

[mild latch]

That's they raygard I made 😀

[white meadow]

Yveltal/Rayquaza:

[final forge]

Not part of NGS but zygarde is literally my favorite pokemon so you have my 3

[shrewd zealot]

Why have You NGS in your pseudo🤣

[final forge]

Because someone else did too and I decided why not

[shrewd zealot]

You can add XYZ now if you want

[cloud crow]

Question, and sorry if it has been answered before.

For the voted pokemon, if one of the ones you vote for has evolutions, does the whole line count as 1 of the 20? Or does each in the line count as one?

[lusty oxide]

Each mon in a line is counted

[cloud crow]

Oh that sucks, oh well

That will fill up fast haha

[shrewd zealot]

yes but starter are out

[light dune]

Sucks tbh cuz I want more ninja fusions

[ruby breach]

This pretty much kills voting for starters

[stone cliff]

How dare you play to my base desires with that Marshadow/Altaria Changes vote

[lusty oxide]

Good thing you can’t even do that then

[stone cliff]

Starters are already out

[ruby breach]

What do you mean?

[lusty oxide]

Check pinned messages

[ruby breach]

Damn rest in peace Serperior

[tiny condor]

oh yeah perfect timing baby

well back to stardew valley ig

[ruby breach]

Another positive for eelektross: 2D sprite not the horrendous 3D sprites it had in the games after black and white haha

[fierce gale]

Oh here they are

[stone cliff]

I just realized that it's Eelektross and not Elektross

[fierce gale]

The legend who made the EEL poster

[shrewd zealot]

me too😂

[stone cliff]

I feel like I should have seen that sooner lmao

I think they should just add the rest of gen 3 just saying, no bias or anything

[grand hull]

Wasn’t there supposed to be another announcement today?

[shrewd zealot]

There is a bias if they do that 😑

[stone cliff]

Most of my votes were gen 3 lol

[shrewd zealot]

How do you know that

[stone cliff]

I think the only Legendaries I voted 3 were the regis

[short garden]

HUH ??? AN EELEKTROSS FAN? UNHEARD OF

ngl i kinda want them in game but don’t wanna admit it bc they are so hated

[stone cliff]

What do you mean?

[lusty oxide]

Hated?

[short garden]

Not a lot of people like em
Especially middle evo

[fierce gale]

No no they are not hated, lots agree they are underrated

[grand hull]

Just a question but why audino cause I personally think we have enough pink Pokémon that look similar to audino

[lusty oxide]

Youn mean eelektrik?

[paper pasture]

All I ever hear is chansey, and they are pretty different design wise imo

Plus it's a little nurse with bell ears

[shrewd zealot]

No thing but how do you know the most of vote are for 3 gen

[grand hull]

I mean Sylveon chansey(kinda) wigglytuff

[stone cliff]

Most of my votes are, don't know about overall lol

[shrewd zealot]

😅

[paper pasture]

I do think it's a bit weird to group mons by color, like how many blue or green or black mons are already in the game, but I guess the big hp round mon is a trope

I personally just prefer audino to them but I get it's not for everyone

[paper pasture]

Ni ni

[grand hull]

am i slow or wasnt there supposed to be another pokemon reveal today cause the sablye post said "next week" and that was on the 7th

[sharp sphinx]

we got the venipede one earlier than expected

[woeful nebula]

venipede line?

[grand hull]

yeah but that wasnt like based off of votes so i thought we would get another today but i guess not

[woeful nebula]

it's a staff pick so It doesn't count to the slots

[grand hull]

which is another reason why i thought anothe mon would get revealed

[woeful nebula]

shaymin should be revealed...

[grand hull]

but eh ig not

[grand hull]

diancie should

[woeful nebula]

I think shaymin is cooler

[earnest mortar]

Rockruff is better...

[woeful nebula]

rockruff vs rain

[grand hull]

we already have so many dog pokemon though

[woeful nebula]

so that is why we need grass hedgehogs

:3

[grand hull]

I dont want sonic in the game though

[woeful nebula]

he's already there I think

[grand hull]

NOOOOO

[earnest mortar]

but look at this sprite by @arctic sail tho... it looks great

[woeful nebula]

no thanks

[grand hull]

yeah but i would never use rockruff lycanrock maybe but i feel theyre both so similar

[shrewd zealot]

Good night

[frozen oyster]

Or sound lizards (exploud), drampas, or the dessert poke slurpuff.

[grand hull]

DRAMPA!!

[frozen oyster]

Drampa looks so fun for designs

[tropic nacelle]

PETILIL

[grand hull]

AND HES SILLY

[toxic dock]

WHERE

[grand hull]

id rather have petlil than shaymin so

[tropic nacelle]

petilil

[frozen oyster]

I've said it Before, but I'm surprised there isn't more following for Slurpuff.

[shrewd zealot]

You are not from NGS?

[frozen oyster]

Dessert theme for any wide range that could be, its fairy typing, has a decent movepool and Unburden shenanigans.

And belly drum.

[grand hull]

I just don’t see a need for it so many pink round Pokémon and other mons based off of food (I think)

[shrewd zealot]

Finally return of NGS