pif-hoenn-discussion

[dense hemlock]

Daily reminder to vote 3 for victini

[odd summit]

Man fairy type is so strangely strong as well, I don't know if its a skill issue on my part, but every god damn time someone would hit me with a dazzling gleam or a play rough my pokemon would just perish

[plucky blaze]

6G was the best gen for strategy tbh. Introduced fairy type, mega-evolutions

[dapper sierra]

I’m gonna make some nummy brownies, have a good day/night y’all❤️

[plucky blaze]

Then they decided nope, no more megas. :( 9G is alright tho

[restive halo]

I think the weaknesses for Fairy typing were meant to finally let poison types have a purpose besides existing for toxic only. But instead it just let Steel types become dominant.

[crimson dew]

this goes hard

[radiant briar]

thanks

[restive halo]

To be fair given power creep, I don't think the world could handle anything worse than Mega Ray or Mega Mom.

[odd summit]

I just realized since I made the sprite for a Noivern X Sylveon fusion (noivern head, sylveon body) I should make a sylveon head, noivern body one as well

[restive halo]

Still, on the plus side, people realized by now that Game Freak are using Mega/Gigantamax designs left in past gens and making them into actual evolutions or stand-alone pokemon lately for Gen 9.

[odd summit]

my first sprite ever so it sucks and I need to fix it and I promise I will later but the concept is there (Also vote noivern)

[plucky blaze]

They could have kept it balanced if they knew what they were doing. But GF has never known what they're doing with their battle mechanics

[tired spruce]

Hey may I ask a potentially stupid question

[restive halo]

Any long-time fan could tell you Game Freak probably doesn't know what they are doing with most things over time.

[plucky blaze]

They know how to make music.

[restive halo]

I dunno, people found out that they legit took a fan remake music-wise someone made for the recent DLC news without permission.

[odd summit]

To be fair Gamefreak doesn't compose the music, don't they usually just ... hire people to do it? Not like actual long term employees?

looks at toby fox slowly

[lavish root]

This is really cool

[tired spruce]

Why were there no Gen 8 or 9 mons in the polls? Is it because the moves/abilities aren't in the code and they aren't being added?

[dapper sierra]

Thanks

[restive halo]

Oh trust me, if Game Freak knew the original version of the song he used for Gen 8 he gave them, they would have never let Toby go near the series. Man did the greatest troll of all time with it.

[plucky blaze]

No that's extremely rare. Toby Fox was very priviledged to have been able to compose a few tracks for mainline Pokémon Games.

[odd summit]

Priveleged is certainly a way to describe it.

[restive halo]

Let's just say the original version of the Gen 8 song he composed, was for a fanfic with....well, it's hard to say it without basically saying the sus thing it was used for/made for originally that also made people nuclear mad.

[plucky blaze]

Almost every single track for Pokémon Main-line games was composed by Ichinose, Masuda or maybe a few other GF employees but it was kept within. And it's been the one thing that's constantly good about Pokémon games imo.

[odd summit]

But then I suppose that's true. I dunno, who did all the composing for Unova? Whoever it was they did an amazing job

[plucky blaze]

Shota Kageyama - Lead
Go Ichinose
Hitomi Sato
Junichi Masuda
Minako Adachi

[restive halo]

I'll just spoiler it so you can understand the pure level of madman Toby Fox is: ||the original version of the song for Gen 8 Toby Fox did was for an MPREG fanfiction that made people erupt in rage over it.||

I can't make this up.

But given the original Earthbound Halloween romhack he did that began his journey to where he is now, this is basically par for the course for the man.

[lusty oxide]

Alr i did it

[odd summit]

the subject matter is extremely uncomfortable but the fact the man had the actual GUTS to do that is actually insane

[plucky blaze]

https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Pokémon_Black_and_White/credits#Music more details here

[lusty oxide]

Oh no did we get serious again?

[restive halo]

Toby Man is a pure madman who has gotten away with so much and by now even is doing a music collab with ZUN, aka Touhou's creator, aka the man that inspired Toby to be a game maker.

[odd summit]

Toby, you are insane, but you are a legend

[tired spruce]

I dipped out when things got serious, dipped back in to ask a question, then realized things are serious again and am tempted to dip once more

[radiant briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926006244177743872/1139413600394563634/Spheal_Propaganda.png

[restive halo]

Toby has worked on Homestuck, and has his skeleton character so popular that they are now immortalized in Smash Bros with their music in there too.

Toby has worked with Game Freak, is doing music with ZUN, and even got to play Smash Bros with Sakurai himself.

[odd summit]

I dunno if anyone is really serious? Just an interesting convo about Toby Fox and how funny the man is

[stone cliff]

Reminder: If Altaria doesn't get in and I finish this boi Imma be somewhat miffed

[odd summit]

Anyways,, its late for me, I must sleep or risk staying up all night on a work night and I cannot afford that. I'll come back again tomorrow like I always do to check in on this insane little channel.

[restive halo]

Also the more I 🤔 about it, the more I start to wonder if Toby Fox had any influence with the design for Houndstone, since the skelly + canine look feels like almost too obvious.

[eternal wigeon]

foam

[eternal wigeon]

We got a skeleton dog and a red skeleton crocodile in the same game

[tired spruce]

I seriously doubt Toby would have anywhere near the position needed to affect Pokemon designs, but stanger things have happened

[digital ferry]

Here, have some Bruxish/Stakataka Propaganda ^^ https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1139414040804868187 https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1139377133295255552

[tired spruce]

Spriters are so talented

[shy marsh]

It's legs are in a tripod formation, mimicking that of a bug

[winged garnet]

Fake-ass bug. Not bug type

[eternal wigeon]

lurantis jumpscare

[mild sedge]

I’m trying to sprite and I realise how damn hard it is

[tired spruce]

Ultra Beasts are all a little wacky. A little kooky. Off their rocker, you could say

[sharp sphinx]

technically shouldn't poipole be out if they removed all starters 😛

[eternal wigeon]

blacephalon is my favorite UB, funny firework clown

[stone cliff]

Agreed

[sharp sphinx]

something something mind blowing fusions

[eternal wigeon]

kablammo

[stone cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/blacephalon-gif-19140126

[shy marsh]

It may not be a real bug type but it has great potential for bug fusion

[winged garnet]

Golisopod.

[tired spruce]

All these artists putting so much work into sprites that might not ever be in the game 🫡

[white meadow]

A golisopod / boldore fusion would be pretty sweet.

[sharp sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1139321907271966810/spheal-will-always-be-the-most-wholesome-ball-v0-9d1b36t57xg81.png

[eternal wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/blacephalon-twirl-pokemon-gif-20060192

[lusty oxide]

Yay sylveon brick

[shy marsh]

That but it's head is a roggenrola

[lusty oxide]

[digital ferry]

Speaking of Golisopod, I’m thinking I might make this fusion next

[winged garnet]

Y e s

[brisk vessel]

Golisotana

[brisk vessel]

Also when do i get my Yveltal and/or Meloetta propaganda 🥹

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-with-it-sannnnnnnes-gif-7199061

[rain gust]

Anyone else want Xurkitree?

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/on-my-way-pokemon-spheal-sphere-seal-gif-15438411

[last pecan]

nice to see the Ice Type Enjoyers are STRONG here

[digital ferry]

When I think of a good concept for them ^^;

[brisk vessel]

[brisk vessel]

I am personally a cryogonal fan myself

[rain gust]

Low-key, I wanna see clawtzer
I feel like he has potential

[digital ferry]

I’m rooting for Snorunt myself, but I’m good w/ multiple ice types

[last pecan]

ngl im happy with Any ice type option

[lunar jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1139408352460427284/jigman.gif

[rain gust]

Fucking SICK

[lunar jolt]

dancin horray yippie

[atomic pawn]

it looks ugly af + looks like an autogen (dont click if you love your eyes)... i will just stick 3 spheals with a glue i guess...

[sharp sphinx]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/aa10231a135ce50b44e8fedc36941a15/tumblr_mhjw7zYF2c1s1fp66o1_500.gif

[atomic pawn]

fr

[digital ferry]

Guess I’ll take the opportunity to shill for Kartana again. Behold my attempts at Origami

[mild sedge]

true

[digital ferry]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message And here’s my argument for Stakataka and Bruxish

[vague oar]

Im once again asking you to vote Torkoal so I can finally make my triple tortoise fusion

[lunar jolt]

fire marshadow edit dropping later tmr, its gonna be my best work yet 🔥 🔥

ill be putting real heart and soul into it 🔥

[digital ferry]

Almost forgot, here’s some Espurr propaganda I made a while back as well ^^

[woeful nebula]

I return

I'm gonna have alot of time to spread propaganda now I'm in the hospital lmao

[red falcon]

Seviper and zangoose would be awesome zangoose would make some cool fusions

[woeful nebula]

this damn voting shit got me in da hospital now 💀

so vote shaymin

now

[brisk vessel]

i hate sonic grahhh

[woeful nebula]

what did sonichu ever do to you

[brisk vessel]

everything

[woeful nebula]

L

[brisk vessel]

if shaymin gets in im turning it into a genshin reference

nobody can stop me

[woeful nebula]

what will you even do

[brisk vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/911477863130218597/1081060360997576714/1677810271039297.gif

[woeful nebula]

erm

[brisk vessel]

the colors are right there I know exactly what i would do (it would be a head fusion)

[woeful nebula]

oh god no

[digital ferry]

If Shaymin gets in I might make a sprite for it at some point. Fusions with stuff growing out of them are always fun even if I don’t think Shaymin adds much else when it comes to fusion design potential

[brisk vessel]

i just want my bacon bird and green singer woman

[woeful nebula]

vote shaymin then

ez

[digital ferry]

Would you mind letting me know what you like about them? I’m genuinely asking since I find that hearing why folks love their favorites often makes me like them more

And if anyone else wants to hype up their favorites to me feel free to do so as well ^^

[mild sedge]

Necrozma/Volcarona Fusion Art Idk

[atomic pawn]

nice

[mild sedge]

Yk What I Will Give You The Funny Art Of Spheal In A Mech Suit
Gimme a sec to make it

[sturdy breach]

obligatory Goodra propaganda

[winged garnet]

Once again posting this sick base sprite idea

[marble stone]

I think that swellow is a pretty sick bird that we could add 😁

[winged garnet]

Who the fuck is Swellow again?

[marble stone]

The gen three bird

[winged garnet]

OOOOH the red one?

[noble holly]

just go with braviary, more cooler

[winged garnet]

I think Swellow is pretty damn basic. Prolly why I didn't remember. Braviary is a cooler bird, and if I were to pick a bird, it'd be them. But I also want Bugs.

[marble stone]

I think ludicolo would be a goofy but good edition

[cyan crest]

hehe didnt expect nerd archon to be here.

[marble stone]

It's the Mexican duck thing if nobody remembers

[lost pebble]

Why gastrodon needs to win: it resista fire, electric cant touch it, and i think it also resists ice. Its perfect for zapdos/moltres/articuno

[marble stone]

What the hell is a gastrodon again?

[pure flower]

Slug

[marble stone]

What gen?

I mean goodra is a more memorable Mon whatever the fuck a gastrodon is

[primal arch]

https://tenor.com/view/yveltal-plushie-plush-spin-plush-yveltal-gif-25865330

[lost pebble]

Gen 4 water/ground type, can be brown or blue

[sharp sphinx]

pink or blue

[winged garnet]

I will make a truce with you

Tryantrum and Golisopod could make a sick fusion

[marble stone]

Ooooh that thing

[sweet crag]

Honestly I just want a Tyrantrum / Dragonite fusion lmao happy nice T-Rex for the win

[sharp sphinx]

lemme grab, sources didn't make those https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/ihiz63/lanturn_x_tyrunt_fusion_oc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/ppb3ee/tyrunt_x_smeargle_fusion_oc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/mzc5h0/sandile_x_tyrunt_fusion/

[marble stone]

But gastrodon is quad weak to grass

[winged garnet]

No I meant, I wanna make a truce, cause I want both in the game

[sharp sphinx]

fusions mean that doesn't matter, and 1 quad weakness does not a bad mon make

[winged garnet]

Scizor is quad weak for fire and its still great

[noble holly]

go with swampert instd

[marble stone]

Ok @sharp sphinx what would you fuse gastrodon to make it better

[winged garnet]

Anything, and it's not bad in the first place

[marble stone]

I didn't say it was bad

[mild sedge]

@atomic pawn

[sharp sphinx]

well for one, it's a relatively solid mon, it gives it electric immunity, has storm drain, was ou in bw, but also I didn't say I wnated it, your argument just seemed off

[marble stone]

Also to clarify @lost pebble referred to gastrodon as if it wasn't fused so I judge it if it wasn't fused

[rain gust]

BRO WE NEED CLAWTZER
A CANNON SHRIMP POKEMON IS FUCKING SICK

[brisk vessel]

Wait lemme get my post

[mild sedge]

this would be necrozma/clawitzer

[rain gust]

What Pokemon do y'all think will get in next week?

[winged garnet]

Golisopod hopefully

[marble stone]

Staraptor

[rain gust]

I think necrozma is gonna come next

[brisk vessel]

For personal reasons i have a fond attachment to them cuz they are my partner in Randomized Explorers of Sky

[mild sedge]

i hope necrozma but I’ve seen a number of people against it (not too much tho)

[rain gust]

Those few are blind lmao
But also, one of the sprite managers also really wants him in

[winged garnet]

I don't think I've seen anyone against Golisopod tbh

[brisk vessel]

On the other hand Yveltal was the first legendary i ever successfully caught without a master ball so its sort of nostalgic for me

[mild sedge]

Counterargument- Google Searches Do Pay Off (most of these are google searches)

[dapper sierra]

That’s cause goli just built different

[brisk vessel]

I need actual sprite fusions cuz most of the ones on google arent sprite form 🥹

[winged garnet]

Frfr

[iron peak]

hey yall sorry i havent been online much

[mild sedge]

I could try and help (also hi kuromi)

[iron peak]

heyy

[brisk vessel]

If i had time i could probably fuse the funny singer with necrozma

[sharp sphinx]

I could use a ironically cute or pink yveltal fusion in my propagandaing

[marble stone]

I think a lot of people just enjoy the silly guys like winpod and the cool guys like golisopod @winged garnet

[dapper sierra]

Here me out, goli and clawitzer, basically goli with a slightly different shape and huge claw, with a bluer look

[mild sedge]

that would be sick and I would do it if I didn’t suck ass at spriting

[brisk vessel]

Melo aint pink but i think it could be cute ?

[iron peak]

lol but in my opinion i think golisipod is cool ngl

[winged garnet]

Ye

[sharp sphinx]

well generally it's more convincing if it's witha mon already in game

[mild sedge]

oh yeah is anybody else watching the VGC world championships rn

[brisk vessel]

Maybe like next week once my finals are finished

[sharp sphinx]

ya do have rest of month at least

[marble stone]

Know that I think about it, kingler and clawitzer would go crazy as a fusion

[mild sedge]

Damn gl with finals

[iron peak]

maybe

[marble stone]

Exactly

[iron peak]

thats pretty cool

[mild sedge]

Anyways imma go search for meloetta Sprite fusions

[iron peak]

mkk

[mild sedge]

wait you like iron moth/volcarona stuff too let’s goooooooo

[noble holly]

meloevoir

[iron peak]

melevoir as an anime girl lol

[noble holly]

*I run away

[slate gazelle]

Volcarona is amazing

[mild sedge]

hail the larva who stole the sun

[iron peak]

lol anyways i gtg

[dapper sierra]

Hail hail!

By kuromi

[mild sedge]

wait what does the epic gamer role even mean idrk

[slate gazelle]

And this is just a cool picture

[sharp sphinx]

sableye is already bringin in a lotta gem fusions, I'd also prefer gigalith

[atomic pawn]

[mild sedge]

I’d be down to see Necrozma/sableye

[lost pebble]

Yep, i mainly was talking about it unfused bc atm im doing an unfused mons run and im so scared of what i will do when i get to mt ember

[atomic pawn]

i decided to fix that... thing
i created perfection ig

[slate gazelle]

Anyways vote Diancie for rose quartz and crystallized pokemon that aren’t lil gremlins, vote Melo for music-inspired pokemon, vote Spheal for adorableness and amazing Walrein fusions

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-excited-pokemon-clapping-laugh-gif-11177320

[mild sedge]

Imagine if spheal/necrozma just crushed Necrozma into a ball

[atomic pawn]

look at my pfp

[mild sedge]

Spheal/Necrozma Not Necrozma/Spheal, Theres A Difference

[atomic pawn]

ah the body head difference

[marble stone]

@lost pebble you can just catch a mudkip in the secret forever right next to cerulean and evolve it to a swampert

[mild sedge]

Head Is all the attributes and crap while body is body

[atomic pawn]

i really wanna see kyurem x necrozma fusions ngl

[slate gazelle]

Necrozma/Spheal could be a Spheal with its arms out, colored like Ultra Necrozma, and with the wingy bits at the side

[mild sedge]

theres triple fusions in spritework

[slate gazelle]

Honestly
Diancie/Necrozma could be amazing

[mild sedge]

still tho what does epic gamer role mean 💀

[lost pebble]

And spam rock slide, no? I was thinking of trying out perish song for funsies

[atomic pawn]

metagross... staring right into my soul

[verbal narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139287541376372856/1139287542022275142/Volcarona_Zygarde-3.png.png

[marble stone]

At that point just use metronome lol @lost pebble

[verbal narwhal]

Just a reminder that snek is pretty neat

[mild sedge]

Screw it I’m gonna make Spheal With A Fungus Controlling It Art
(Parasect-Spheal)

[lost pebble]

Amyways, reminder to do staraptor and type null propaganda. Having arceus and the manmade arceus in the same game would be rlly funny

[atomic pawn]

thats gonna be so uncanny but i really wanna see that

[lost pebble]

Consider the arceus type null fusion

[atomic pawn]

literally just arceus base sprite

[lost pebble]

Pic?

[pure flower]

So... I sorta realized. Groudon+Lurantis is probably going to have nuking potential

[slate gazelle]

I just got a really cool fusion idea for a Steelix/Staraptor
Have it mostly made of stone/metal and then have the mega crystals starting to cover its wings and talons

[lost pebble]

Amazing. Also consider sableye/staraptor too

[atomic pawn]

yveltal sableye? cooler than i expected

[flint haven]

yo

[slate gazelle]

Gonna sleep now
It’s 2 am
My final words for the night:
Vote for Diancie, get your crystallized Ho-Oh, vote for Spheal, see your amazing round borb Fletching, vote for Meloetta, envision the music-based fusions, vote for Staraptor, admire how a basic but cool design can be changed and added upon in so many different and amazing ways, similar to Charizard.

[mortal jungle]

dang someone advertising for dianice and another bird line...

[sharp sphinx]

https://twitter.com/mammuth89/status/1602015994545045504?cxt=HHwWgIDQ9eTDwLssAAAA

Mammuth89 (@mammuth89)

Sandslash/Excadrill fusion (Sandrill)

commissioned by @Salim_Boo

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Twitter · Dec 11, 2022, 7:02 PM

[cyan crest]

uhhh not bad

[sharp sphinx]

excadrill needs more campaigning

[cyan crest]

i have a sandslash in my team...

[sharp sphinx]

would be good for gurren laggan too

[cyan crest]

hm well im a filthry one for wanting the regitrio and cresselia inside the slots. reason is simple. darkrai and regigigas.

[sharp sphinx]

eh registeel seems like it'd add something but others could be done with most rock or ice types

[cyan crest]

otherwise lawful evil suggestion: remove regigigas and darkrai.

more slots that means Owo

[noble holly]

what about celesteela, cooler then regis
it needs more campaign

[sharp sphinx]

spaceship

[lusty oxide]

Absolutely don’t remove darkrai bc that would mean removing this

[cyan crest]

i dont even know what celesteela is. i rather want the problem with regigigas being in the game but not his "requirements" be solved.

darkrai's counterpart is cresselia. so it stings in my eye a bit that only one half is in the game but not the other.

i jsut want those 4 in for the sake of completition and proper events for them, whatever else gets their way in i dont mind, except for starters they take too many slots 8but im glad that problem got adressed)

[brave pollen]

ultra beast. as much as i like the UBs as a concept I think only stakataka and kartana have the best fusion potential

[noble holly]

golurk but cooler

[lusty oxide]

The problem with the ultra beasts is that a lot of then will be hard to sprite

[sharp sphinx]

eh in some games ya needed regigas to get the other 3

[cyan crest]

the thing with ultrabeasts is a bit of a problem. if youw ant them properly added, several thigns need to be considered. first. ultra balls. the measure for catching ultra beasts are ultra balls. so they need to be added too.
that brigns us to the next issue with utlra beasts. for the extrameasure of the implementation of the utlra ball.. going so far, it would be kidna silly to only add one. so you have to add many to make the ultra ball usefull.
and that brings us to issue 3. if like 3 or 4 get added to make the ultra ball usefull then thats 3 or 4 slots taken solely for the concept of ultra beasts.
when those slots could be taken for 4 pokemon that can be catched witha regular pokeball

[sharp sphinx]

I think withv ery limited space it's better to go with what makesthe best fusions not just a completion thing

[cyan crest]

in terms of which ultra beats apart from the problem.. i think of the katana origami pokemon and buzzwole

christ

[brave pollen]

you can do a better spheal/paras

[mild sedge]

I Can, i Forgot the mushroom detail

[cyan crest]

i dont think its bad
it gets the disturbing point allright
but it needs to be properly sprited. might give spheal enjoyers nightmares tho

[atomic pawn]

hurts..

[brave pollen]

buzzwole’s counterpart is pheromosa and i forget who kartana’s counterpart is but i think Ultra Beasts come in pairs. would make sense for that 4-ultra-beasts metric that you gave

[mild sedge]

alr fixed it

[cyan crest]

.... unfortunate. i suggest ghaslighting everyone into makign kartana and buzzwole a duo.

[atomic pawn]

srsly hurts...

[mild sedge]

I did not say sorry somebody is speaking for me

[spare yew]

CAP, ily man but buzzswole is epic

[cyan crest]

but then again. i think sadly ultra beasts dont have a good place in infinite fusion unless they come as 4 into the game with the ultraballs. which is ahuge additional feature

[floral dew]

tyrantrum is something id love for IF 9and some archeop that doesnt have self confidence issues)

[cyan crest]

otherwise.. i would be dissapointed if i could catch an ultra beats with a normal pokeball and its the only ultrabeats in the gae

[brave pollen]

buzzwole is fire, i’m not denying it. as a stand-alone mon it’s phenomenal. but i’m not sure it brings much to the table that machamp doesn’t already

[mild sedge]

I Dunno if you guys mean beast balls or regular ultra balls

[spare yew]

Well its colour pallet is so much better, and the absolute size of it makes you able to come up with so much more, even the mosquito part of his character can make for some interesting fusions

[cyan crest]

the oens u can use to catch ultra beasts, i think i made a mistake calling them utlra ballz

[brave pollen]

he means beast balls. I didn’t want to point it out and say he doesn’t know what they’re called, but I guess the damage is done already

[cyan crest]

i am severely silly

[brave pollen]

I see what you mean. I wasn’t even thinking of it as a head fusion. Buzzwole has my vote

[floral dew]

i used nihilego the most out of all the ultra beast (rip mouth boi btw)

[mild sedge]

what damage is to be done over a mistake as miniscule as that
suddenly remembers grammar issue memes
oh

[brave pollen]

When the silliness is fatal!

[spare yew]

thank you kindly, your vote is greatly appreciated

[cyan crest]

i made an old chart once. but thats like the alpha version of what i made. its very imperfect.

[floral dew]

solrock and lunatone arent in the game?

[mild sedge]

depressing lack of Necrozma but I won’t fight it

[brave pollen]

can i get a furfrou bump in exchange? help an underappreciated mon make its mark on IF!

[cyan crest]

nope, but then again di we even need them when we have darkrai and maybe cresselia...

[floral dew]

oof dam

[sharp sphinx]

you have 0 of the ones I want most

[spare yew]

I also voted lurantis line, kartana, the regis and crescilia (dk if thats correctly spelled)

[cyan crest]

lol, which one sdo u want

[floral dew]

i want pangoro super cool mon

[mild sedge]

Not to be rude but I actually moderately dislike furfrou but only because of Pokemon home trades it’s like the one Mon everybody trades for and that really pisses me off

[sharp sphinx]

tyrantrum yveltal/xerneas, spheal line, excadrill, drapion, noivern, maybe gigalith

[floral dew]

oooo drapion yeee

[sharp sphinx]

oh and sharpedo

[white meadow]

same!

[floral dew]

i have a lot of mons i like that arent in the game sed

[sharp sphinx]

why you bonk yourself in the face, were you confused?

[spare yew]

I believe I did already but I definitely will now if not. The fur coat addition would be massive and I feel like the french fancy dog vibes its giving off could make some cool fusions

[mild sedge]

I mean if anybody has seen Pokémon home trades (and aren’t an avid trader) they can relate with us

[mystic kernel]

what do you think about leavany?

[floral dew]

its a bit eh

[mystic kernel]

i thought its cool but im not sure of my vote...

[mild sedge]

like I got 3 untrimmed furfrou once thinking they’d work when I released the TRIMS.
THE TRIMS.

[white meadow]

i have also seen the gen 7 gts and it's upsetting even there

[spare yew]

I love leavany but theres a lot of bug types that already function the same

[floral dew]

it could make for some intresting fusions but its eh

[sharp sphinx]

lurantis is an alternate similar option

[mystic kernel]

i think ill pick lurantis

[spare yew]

^ the colours are cooler and bolder and contrary is a super good and silly ability

[mystic kernel]

i didnt know it has contrary 😮

[sharp sphinx]

tyrantrum got strong jaw and rock head

[spare yew]

I need to make a list of my top twenty votes and post it( i also voted tyrantrum pretty sure)

[cyan crest]

there ar eso many good ones...

[mild sedge]

what is your opinion on nipple legs (medicham)

[floral dew]

both are good

rock head can only be used well with head smash STAB smh

[sharp sphinx]

yeah but he's a rock type with it so

[cyan crest]

now that u called it like this:

[mild sedge]

I could never unsee it and now you can’t either >:)

[pure flower]

I went around to calculating both sides of the Lurantis/Groudon fusion.

Lurantis+Groudon=
Typing: Grass+Fire
Abilities: Leaf Guard(Contrary)/Drought

Hp: 80
Atk: 155
Def: 137
Sp.Atk: 103
Sp.Def: 90
Spd: 75

Groundon+Lurantis=
Typing: Ground+Grass
Abilities: Drought/Leaf Guard(Contrary)

Hp: 100
Atk: 130
Def: 113
Sp.Atk: 127
Sp.Def: 90
Spd: 60

[cyan crest]

i think you got the wrong person.

[floral dew]

bruh druddigon

[pure flower]

Groudon+Lurantis seems more generally balanced.

Lurantis+Groudon seems more offensive

[sharp sphinx]

uh that seems wrong, groudon ha 150 base attack, did you use primal stats

[white meadow]

groudon gives fire?

[cyan crest]

but then again, i dont mind when someone mentions such words

[mild sedge]

Primal Groundon Does, Regular Doesnt

[pure flower]

Oh... Shoot. I might have. Guess I gotta recalculate all the stats.

[pure flower]

Primal Groudon isn't obtainable outside of a self fusion, right?

[mystic kernel]

what do you think of hawlucha? i think it would make cool fusions and is colorful

[sharp sphinx]

even then it's visual

[cyan crest]

how is that nsfw, are you nutz

[pure flower]

Alright. Am going back to work on calculating the stats since I used the wrong groudon. Whoops

[lone dome]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-fomantis-napping-gif-27484316

[mild sedge]

reminder that he can and will steal your cookies.

[cyan crest]

football
this little fella even committed cannibalism as u can see.

[mild sedge]

shoot I forgot to take corphish out of the pot (your gonna have to scroll up a WHILE to see what happened)

[white meadow]

let's forget about what happened yesterday ok?

[mild sedge]

ok.

wait do you have a Spheal discord server-

[sharp sphinx]

pokemon gaia fangame has lotta spheal stuff

[white meadow]

wym?

[mild sedge]

Ohhhhhh makes sense

[sharp sphinx]

[mild sedge]

I have the lab back, anybody want me to “fuse” a few Pokémon?

[white meadow]

sableye munching necrozma's prism

[spare yew]

just went back to check votes and I voted way more 3's then 20 lmao

[mild sedge]

i will rip sableye in half just for saying that

and to add insult to injury I’ll fuse him with bruxish

[spare yew]

i voted 3 for 34 pokemon lmao, and that was holding back

[mild sedge]

dude every Pokémon’s gonna get a tie 💀

[white meadow]

force the devs to add everything!

[spare yew]

real, we need at least 40 dudes

[lone dome]

Bruxish + Lurantis

[atomic pawn]

porygon spheal fusion idea

[lone dome]

Baller

[spare yew]

if youre offering to make sprites, buzzswole lurantis would be absolute gas, I ran the stats on them and its nuts

[brave pollen]

dawn wings lunatone or dusk mane solrock?

[mild sedge]

I’m not doing sprites (because I suck ass at it i reccomend asking anybody other than me) but I’m doing regular art (and pure abominations)

[spare yew]

ah ok :)

[mild sedge]

hey Alexa google sun stone and moon stone

[bold lantern]

on my way to make a bergmite sprite (I will disallow any bergmite fan to use it for the funnies)

[mild sedge]

one it’s begmite and two shit now I gotta make a choice

[pure flower]

Lurantis+Groudon=
Typing: Grass+Ground
Abilities: Leaf Guard(Contrary)/Drought

Hp: 80
Atk: 135
Def: 123
Sp.Atk: 86
Sp.Def: 90
Spd: 75

Groundon+Lurantis=
Typing: Ground+Grass
Abilities: Drought/Leaf Guard(Contrary)

Hp: 90
Atk: 120
Def: 107
Sp.Atk: 94
Sp.Def: 90
Spd: 60

Honestly. 135 base Atk Solar Blades still probably hits pretty hard

[bold lantern]

lemme know if you want a sprite made for your propaganda ||I wont make it, just curious ||

[bold lantern]

unless ive missed a meme, its bergmite

[pure flower]

I should probably go check how damage calculations work rq to see how much a 135 base attack solar blade will deal

[lone dome]

There's only a few Fomantis fusions out there

[mystic kernel]

that, is alot. with drought too

[bold lantern]

maybe it is begmite, considering how often I see them begging : )

[mild sedge]

a reminder that he is in stasis and I can let him free at any moment

[white meadow]

Updated version

[white meadow]

Im exited

[mystic kernel]

what do you think about hawlucha

[lone dome]

Good mon

[mild sedge]

A Bundle Of My Other Creatures Incoming

[mystic kernel]

i like hawlucha, good stats but not so much typing. also good fusions

[mild sedge]

anyways imma go check spritework

[pure flower]

Okay. Lurantis+Groudon apparently is capable of hitting 2x against half of the type combinations, while also hitting the other half for neutral.

Here's the moveset I figured would probably be best for it:

Just use growth once or twice for the +2 in atk and sp.atk, or do it twice, and just start sweeping.

Might be good to pair with a sweet scent pokemon if you do a doubles/triples format

[mild sedge]

Made Mimikyu/Stakataka (They (As in multiple) Used Scaffolding And A Table Cloth It Liked)

[pure flower]

Although. Tbh could probably focus the EVs into sp atk or share them between atk and spatk

[obsidian cosmos]

thats quite interesting

[pure flower]

Honestly. Yeah. I think I'm excited for the idea of doing Lurantis+Groudon

[mild sedge]

I could try doing art of it gimme a sec

[pure flower]

It'd probably be like a salamander with a head mixing both Groudon and Lurantis', leaning forward on two massive scythes.

[noble holly]

Go with these awesome pokemon guys,
great status, variety of typing & new abilities, also awesome top tier design
ty!

[pure flower]

Where are people making these charts?

[brisk vessel]

I approve of this chart

[shy marsh]

It's funny how the most talked about Pokemon aren't on this list

[merry hemlock]

before i go on the plane im just gonna shill excadrill.

[pure flower]

What are those anyways

[white meadow]

meh seems like many people talk about the snorunt and the fomantis line

[merry hemlock]

bergmite 💯

[pure flower]

The question about that is if it's a vocal majority or a vocal minority.

[white meadow]

who knows, i see too many people advocating for bruxish while it also being the second lowest voted

[pure flower]

Honestly. All I really hope for is for Lurantis to get added since it's a personal favorite. Though of course everyone has their own personal favorites

[outer hound]

remenbr

[celest bobcat]

Just saw a good reason to vote for Bruxish
New Ability, Dazzling, which negates Priority moves

[noble holly]

Tsareena also has queenly majesty that negates priority move
even more, cooler design

[outer hound]

this the reason to not to vote for bruxish

[white meadow]

just one reason? other than "haha ugly" stuff that you guys seem to like for some reason

[celest bobcat]

Yes just one

[shy marsh]

Boldore

[celest bobcat]

Then again doesn't Tsareena also have a similar ability?

[white meadow]

it's basically the same ability with a different name

[outer hound]

https://tenor.com/view/necrozma-anime-pokemon-gif-22517519

[marsh lily]

There should be a reference to this.

[sterile spoke]

It is the same ability with a different name, which really annoys me. 😢

[glass dust]

updated my list from a while back

[sweet crag]

I would really love to see the numbers and how many voted for what

[white meadow]

it's probably for the best if we can't see them

[mild sedge]

Gn Chat See Yall Tmrw

[sweet crag]

Just want to see em at the end, otherwise that might actually invite botters to ruin it

Do we get all Location forms like the Steal Goodra or dark linoone ?

[celest bobcat]

I gotta say
At least 1 of your mons isn't making it in...

Cause Sableye LOL

[sterile spoke]

Why is that Noibat sprite so big? Same with Phantump. 😮

[mortal jungle]

I'm voting for giga phantump as well

Specifically if he's that big*

[silver ginkgo]

I dont know which one but i think we need 1 pokemon made of ice for the designs,we are severly lacking right now.
Regice, vanilluxe, cryogonal or avalugg.

[fresh salmon]

God, slow mode when the chat isn't even that alive now

[mortal jungle]

I think we could get 2 or 3 ice types tbh (cryogonal, recice, froslass)

[silver ginkgo]

Yeah i think we also need at least 1 pokemon with snow warning. Vanilluxe covers both but i would prefer aurorus + cryogonal or avalugg

[mystic crystal]

The snorunt line is a no-brainer for new icetypes; they're popular, two different final stages and all look visually unique... though i'd also love to see the vanillite line (which is sadly unlikely )

[mortal jungle]

I'll say it, FRICK those ice cream cones

[mystic crystal]

Amaura and Aurorus are also top picks for me though; as well as tyrunt and tyrantrum - some of the strongest designed fossils imo

[silver ginkgo]

Im worried that snorunt line fusions will all be too similar. Bunch of yuki-onnas and glailes face and colour white plastered on top of other pokemon

[silver ginkgo]

Aurorus also brings refrigrate, some fun combos can be made with that.

[silver ginkgo]

Vanilluxe actually has high potential for cool fusions. As the body we can get different types of ice cream and desserts and as the head it being made of ice and snow creates a lot of design oppurtunities. Imagine torterra with a large serving of ice cream on its back.

[mortal jungle]

im imagining 3 slots taken by ice cream and shaking and crying rn (i think if it were 1 or 2 slots id be a lot more interested ;P)

[sterile spoke]

I think Glalie, Froslass and Aurorus is the most likely trio of Ice-types. 😛

[noble holly]

how are them will be too similar?
Snorunt line has totally 3 different unique shapes for each evolution. This will definitely brings various design possibilities. Unlike snover/amaura/vanilite line, with only smaller tree/dino/icecream and bigger tree/dino/icecream. Also snorunt line has various palette not only white, they have yellow, black, red, purple.
Though reconsidering, snow warning and refrigerate abilities are indeed interesting. Also Aurorus design is great too.

[mortal jungle]

im counting glalie and frosslass as 1 (at blaquaza)

[magic kelp]

Where is marshadow

[noble holly]

perhaps we might get mega glalie's refrigerate as hidden abilities in the game (hoping too much)

[sterile spoke]

They're two, though. 😛

It'd be like calling Politoed and Poliwrath the same Pokémon. 😅

[mortal jungle]

i meant 2 or 3 diff ice types on the vote, they are just 1 vote which is why they are pog

[covert geode]

bruxist = tras

[tame flax]

Hot take: heatran is the most boring legendary pokemon imo

[viral thorn]

In what way of the word is that a hot take?

[tame flax]

He's just a lava blob inspired by a chopped up fire baby

Which isn't even an exaggeration

[white meadow]

probably was talking about the "hot take" part

[atomic pawn]

i sometimes forget that heatran is a legendary 💀
it feels like a pseudo legends mid-evo tbh

[atomic pawn]

heatran is a lava blob as aizt said, thats why its a "hot" take lol (i had to do this sorry)

[atomic pawn]

neisan you should stop bruh, mods has ability to sense a spam and time out you right now (happened to me, twice)

[atomic pawn]

how to waste 1 slot for nothing
Step 1: Find bruxish
Step 2: Vote bruxish
Step 3: team up with like 5 other bruxish supporters and somehow make bruxish win
Step 4: Congrats, you wasted a slot

[smoky basalt]

I finished

[sturdy breach]

Obligatory Goodra propaganda.

[smoky basalt]

AND VOTE SPHEAL CAUSE HIS CUTE

[thorny ferry]

Spehal and sealo aren't especially unique imo, if I were to vote for spheal, it would be because of walrein, but I don't think it's worth 3 slots

[smoky basalt]

Yeah that's why darmanitan is good choice

[thorny ferry]

Darmanitan is pretty cool

[sturdy breach]

Snorunt/Froslass/Glalie is probably one of the more efficient lines

[shy marsh]

Boldore

[atomic pawn]

spheal is atleast cute even tho it has no potential 💀

[wet radish]

My opinion on the Spheal line is that Walrein works well as a body or a head and Spheal works well as a body but overall it's not enough for a 3 stage line to be worth it.

[white meadow]

would darmanitan's zen mode work kinda like aegislash not changing sprites or would it just not exist?

[atomic pawn]

would work like aegislash ig

[sterile spoke]

It's outright the most efficient line of any choices we've got, because I think it's the only branched evolution. 😄

[thorny ferry]

Why would we need a mon that is only cute, then? I think we already have many of those

[sturdy breach]

Also the Ice typing on them and the added Ghost on Froslass

[white meadow]

the cosmog line: (im not a voter of it, just to clarify)

[sterile spoke]

That has Cosmoem, making it less efficient. 😢

[atomic pawn]

"memes, the dna of soul"
should be enough ig

[sturdy breach]

Basically the same potential, takes 4 slots with 1 being pretty damn useless at least

[sterile spoke]

And potentially, albeit not part of the line and just a counterpart, Necrozma. 😦

[thorny ferry]

I don't get the cosmoem dislike tbh, I think it could be an upgraded cosmog, giving the mons a golden armour

[sturdy breach]

You get the same colour scheme with Lunala though, and the armor as well (on the wings)

[thorny ferry]

Fair

[sterile spoke]

Yeah, that's pretty much why. 😅

[silk narwhal]

Tbh, i can see only necrozma making jt

[thorny ferry]

Ye now I get it

[sterile spoke]

Necrozma? More like Necrozmugh, bad fusion material. 😂

[sturdy breach]

I don't really see the Cosmog line making it at least.

[sterile spoke]

I don't think Cosmog's line will get in. Necrozma is certainly more likely than that, for better or worse. 😢

[silk narwhal]

Sounds like a you problem ;)

[sturdy breach]

Wish they would just ditch Cosmog and Cosmoem

[mossy jasper]

Don't forget to vote for the goats

[sterile spoke]

Nah, it'd end up in a bunch of monochrome recolours without the cooler aspects of say Darkrai's wisps and bright reds and blues. 😅

At least initially, because people would rush to complete it. 😦

[sturdy breach]

Oh man now I want both Froslass and Lurantis to get in even more

[white meadow]

I kinda like xurkitree

[silk narwhal]

I really don't want to have this argument again

[mossy jasper]

hope you voted for them

[sturdy breach]

I did 🙂 also Lilligant, Salazzle, and of course Goodra

[mortal jungle]

What is this

[atomic pawn]

canon yveltal moltres fight (i know yveltal would beat the f outta moltres)

[mortal jungle]

But yveltal is the one in the pan

[atomic pawn]

yes, it was a joke 💀

[mortal jungle]

I don't get it!!!!

[tight cairn]

vote the sewawa for cool bug fusions

[atomic pawn]

yveltal = bacon
moltres = fire

[wet radish]

Another non 3 stage 3 slot that could be worth it is the regis.

[mortal jungle]

Regis bussin

[tame flax]

lycanroc would be fun

[atomic pawn]

or vote for actually useful bugs like golisopod and scolipede

[tame flax]

not many speedy rock types

even fewer who keep rock type when fused, in fact i dont think any fast rock type currently keeps rock type when fused as body

[mortal jungle]

Buzzwole pherimosa 😳

[atomic pawn]

they/them 💀

[sturdy breach]

Pheramosa is the only UB I gave a 3 I think, followed by Kartana with a 2

[sharp nebula]

i think i gave them all 2 except buzzwole which i hate

[mortal jungle]

Honestly a lot of them are good picks... Buzzwole is epic tho wtf

[sturdy breach]

I gave Stakataka a 0

[sharp nebula]

imo buzzwole is like the 4th ugliest pokemon

[sturdy breach]

Bruxish, Crabominable and who are lower? 😄

[sharp nebula]

1 is crabominable, 2 is mr mime, 3 is granbull

[mortal jungle]

Buzzwole is like probably the most attractive pokemon and is the ideal body type

Every day I wake up and hope that I look like him

[sturdy breach]

Both Pheramosa and Buzzwole are exaggerated 'ideal' bodies

[mortal jungle]

No they are realistic surely 😔

I don't think buzzwole would lead to that creative fusions cus we already have machoke and Machamp tbh but like he's a strong bug type

[compact path]

The prospect of getting a fusion of a anything with Noivern is nuts

[sharp nebula]

exactly why pheromosa is the top pick

[sturdy breach]

Then just take Pheramosa, speedy with high atk, strong bug type

[mortal jungle]

Oh trust me I'm taking both

[sharp nebula]

pheromosa has massive physical and special attack as well as speed

[mortal jungle]

I'm taking em all the way to the BANK

Yeah but she doesn't look that cool so rip rip rip

[sharp nebula]

bad taste

[sturdy breach]

L take, tall cockroach lady is cool 😄

[sterile spoke]

To be fair, Crabominable being ugly is kind of the point. 😛

[civic harness]

Hello there

[digital ferry]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1139414040804868187 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139414040804868187/1139414041513697300/SylveonStakataka.png

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1139377133295255552 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139377133295255552/1139377133697912902/Bruxish.Stakataka.png

Any chance either of these could change your mind?

[sharp nebula]

doesnt make it good

[sterile spoke]

What if the Ice King was a coconut crab? 😛

[sturdy breach]

That would make me want to give it a -1 if possible to be fair

[civic harness]

Is that you only showed him graffitis

[sterile spoke]

...Why?

[sturdy breach]

Also, are blatant political fusions ok?

[sterile spoke]

Human rights aren't politics, but it'd probably be alted. 😅

[sturdy breach]

The message isn't, the movement is tho

[iron quartz]

Blaquaza
Quick question,what are the top 10 popular mons in here?

[civic harness]

People think more of cute animals than a structure

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-gif-18174494

[jaunty pebble]

ive heard alot of bruxish

[sharp nebula]

meloetta is the most popular of course

[sterile spoke]

Even if I did know, I couldn't tell you. 😛

[sturdy breach]

a few people pro and a lot of people against haha

[iron quartz]

trying to add more but out of ideas

[jaunty pebble]

im for, i think itd be great for head fusions

[sharp nebula]

i love you

[twilit hedge]

What Pokémon do y’all think will be added next

[iron quartz]

You want me to add these to the starter pack?
...

[sterile spoke]

Remember that there's probably like, at most, maybe 200 active people here in this channel. 😮

Anything you see getting posted a lot might be doing awfully in the polls. 😅

Likewise, something getting a lot of hate could actually be dominating. 😂

[civic harness]

Its just humor, you could put the fights that there are for Bruxish

[sturdy breach]

I'm against because all it brings to the table is it's awful colour palette 😄

[iron quartz]

also they kinda take up alot of space.

[sharp nebula]

i definitely see snorunt line being added, not necessarily the next tho

[sterile spoke]

I think its palette would be great for fusions, honestly. 😮

[jaunty pebble]

yeah but its how you can apply the colour which i think would be an awesome challenge

[civic harness]

Make it small if you want

[sterile spoke]

It's the big lips that'd be bad. 😢

[white meadow]

You forgot

[sterile spoke]

Just not an appealing design feature. 😦

[jaunty pebble]

id love snorunt line, they all have potential, and we need more iceies

[brisk vessel]

What about Yveltal 🥹

[iron quartz]

WELL NOW I CANT DECREASE THE SIZE
its too gud.

[digital ferry]

Yeah, I don’t expect any of my propaganda to have an actual impact, but a few folks have said it changed their vote

[sterile spoke]

Though I have to say, Bruxish's name, considering it's bruxism + fish, is actually very good. 🙂

I've warmed up to it a lot since SM. 😄

[digital ferry]

I actually always thought Bruxish was fine, but I tend to like the weird ones

[jaunty pebble]

isnt it called snow now? hail i mean

[iron quartz]

I'am not done yet

[civic harness]

Make it small

[brisk vessel]

Is this going on reddit or smth

[lusty oxide]

You forgot about the react

[iron quartz]

@alpine rune BRO IT TAKES UP THE ENTIRE MSPAINT SCREEN.
@white meadow Also I"AM NOT DONE YET.

[white meadow]

Than you add it

[clever atlas]

HAIL YEAH!

[alpine rune]

LOL

[civic harness]

Same

[sterile spoke]

Some of my favourite are Torkoal, Spinda and Tatsugiri. I do love a wacky standalone every now and then. 🙂

[iron quartz]

This is what happens if its too large

[lusty oxide]

Come to think of it isn’t castform the only gen 3 mon to not be in a switch game?

[civic harness]

Make it small

[alpine rune]

lower quality = funnier

[white meadow]

But the NGS is a big part of the if vote starterpack

[iron quartz]

I have finished the v1 version.

[sterile spoke]

No, everything from Gens I to IV is in BDSP. 😛

[sturdy breach]

Do we talk about BDSP tho?

[sterile spoke]

I think Hoenn had the most polarising mix of standalones, though; Torkoal, Spinda, Tropius, Absol, Seviper and Zangoose, but then also Volbeat, Illumise and Luvdisc. Solrock, Lunatone, Chimecho, Plusle and Minun are all ones Like despite their relative uselessness. 🙂

[lusty oxide]

I don’t like acknowledging BDSP’s existence the game is literally filler

[civic harness]

and Spheals recolors? Wait, they would already be in the warning I made

[brisk vessel]

Its also the most moddable game at least (you could literally use Kirby as a pokemon)

[sterile spoke]

All the Pokémon are now in BDSP. All of them. 😄

[lusty oxide]

Yea Kirby is in BDSP

[digital ferry]

Chimecho got Chingling at least so it’s no longer a standalone. But that doesn’t help it’s odds in the IF poll

[brisk vessel]

Truly
I saw someone mod in an entire ass N fight

[sterile spoke]

True. It's mad that out of all of Hoenn's useless standalones, one of the most useless got a pre-evolution instead of anything that'd actually make it good. 😛

I do miss pre-evolutions, though. 😢

[white meadow]

Y are the fusions so bad
Oh wait its Stakataka
(Dont take me too serious except its about voteing NGS)

[sturdy breach]

Oh right, almost forgot

[inland jewel]

I never considered Stakataka fusions to be graffiti that’s actually lit

[pure flower]

So. Earlier I ended up going ahead to try and figure out the stats of a Lurantis Groudon fusion

[white meadow]

I can give you the stats

[jaunty pebble]

i so want scolipede, ive wanted a centipede fusion body for so long

[pure flower]

Already done

[civic harness]

I imagined too many things and one of them was a graffiti, Mimikyu being a Pikachu graffiti and there his eyes replacing Stakataka eyes

[white meadow]

Kinda sad that it proves that you cant really use it for fusions cuz there is no aspect of it except being a wall

[atomic pawn]

isnt crabominable or whatever its name is a yeti crab?

[pure flower]

I believe so

[brisk vessel]

This lizard is a disaster waiting to happen

[atomic pawn]

am i blind? where is spheal

[pure flower]

Can't be worse than Seaking Blaziken

[civic harness]

Here

[sturdy breach]

I love seeing those types of disasters though. (voted a 3)

[sterile spoke]

Yeah, but it's also a coconut crab. 😂

[brisk vessel]

Fair enough

[atomic pawn]

nah after all the memes, it deserves a better place in starter pack

[regal vault]

WHY????

[pure flower]

Seaking Blaziken has some REALLY big thighs for whatever reason

[winged flax]

spheal has crazy potential it's such a cool shape

[civic harness]

Bad people

[brisk vessel]

Do you see that gif

[inland jewel]

To be fair, Bruxish is one slot while Tsareena is 3

[sturdy breach]

It's a pokemon that canonically creates a huge harem

[atomic pawn]

also, can someone tell me where the f is team dhelmise? they existed for like 1-2 days than poofed outta existence

[civic harness]

Voltorb, Electrode and Jigglypuff?

[sterile spoke]

I'm going to campaign against Tsareena anyway from a moderating perspective. 😛

[regal vault]

People wouldn't be dumb like that, there's rule 2

[sterile spoke]

Tsareena, Salazzle, Pheromosa, Buzzwole, and sadly Goodra. Anything that would get taken in a weird direction too often. 😂

[winged flax]

Spheal is SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT genius

[civic harness]

Yes, but be careful

[inland jewel]

Goodra is in the top 10-20 of pokephilia

[digital ferry]

I have ideas for non-graffiti Stakataka fusions as well, I just wanted to show these ones off first since it’s an angle folks might not have thought of ^^

[pure flower]

Honestly. Salazzle has a pretty cool animation for fire based attacks like flame thrower

[sterile spoke]

Trust me, they don't care. 😛

[regal vault]

WTF WHY

[sturdy breach]

Lucario is #1 if I remember correctly

[civic harness]

Added a tail and seal face?

[sterile spoke]

You know why, sadly. 😦

[brisk vessel]

Have you seen the thing

Its a thick slime lizard with huge hips and a cute face

[pure flower]

But there's no animations so salazzle is mostly meh

[winged flax]

Yeah

[regal vault]

goodra is a slug

[digital ferry]

I do love Salazzle’s jazz hands pose that it does

[brisk vessel]

Doesn’t matter
People are weird

[atomic pawn]

yeah voltorb wouldnt have these arms

[sturdy breach]

and Gardevoir is #2, Lopunny #3 or something. All 3 are already in the game, does make it a little hypocritical doesn't it

[pure flower]

Personally. I prefer the pose where flames erupt from its tail and back

[civic harness]

Seel/Voltorb and Electrode alt

[regal vault]

Cinderace in 4

[inland jewel]

To be fair if it was a necrozma head, Voltorb would have them anyway

[civic harness]

But Jigglypuff?

[atomic pawn]

jigglypuff is annoying tbh

[atomic pawn]

i think making voltorb/electrode a beastball is a better idea tho its design is literally a pokeball

[tame flax]

Tsareena is fun tho

[inland jewel]

That’s the fun part, fusions can have multiple sprites

[brisk vessel]

If its a necrozma fusion you are SUPPOSED to slap its arms onto the body, regardless of the mon

[tame flax]

Don't forget that the base mon needs to be turned into light

[atomic pawn]

beast ball is still a better idea

[brisk vessel]

It will still keep the arms

[civic harness]

Electrode

[pure flower]

Bakugan Electrode

[atomic pawn]

i think theres already a gen1 dragonoid fusion, but we need more bakugan content tbh

[pure flower]

I mean designing it like a toy.

[civic harness]

Is like painting an egg

[hearty vine]

Daily cosmog propaganda

[pure flower]

So the body unfolded still retains spherical parts that if folded back would create a sphere

[pure flower]

Aa I see. I was thinking of it being like an opened bakugan. Clearly able to tell it can fold up but resembles necrozma

[civic harness]

I think you would need demonstrations of the possible fusions, with pokemons that are already in the game obviously

[sturdy breach]

How would it hold merit though? There's way more 'out of line' pokemon that are already in the game.

[atomic pawn]

(theres also an opened/standing version) but we seriously need more bakugan

[pure flower]

Even Seaking of all pokemon...

[sterile spoke]

We don't want more. 😂

[pure flower]

I see. I mean, that's nice. But surely there's more creative ways you can do it rather than just making it completely unrelated to the pokemon

[sterile spoke]

If it were up to me, Miltank would be out. 😅

But I do like the more creative and fun Miltank fusions. 🙂

Like the Sableye that's sitting on cheese. 😄

[atomic pawn]

yeah just imagine a giratina ball (again, we need more, bakugan is life)

[sturdy breach]

You would have to take out Lucario, Gardevoir, and Lopunny as well.
I would say moderate the fusions, not the pokemon themselves

[tame flax]

But you're forgetting the most important part, those mons are fun to play

[pure flower]

Oh so like, the top of the ball is two hinges, swinging open, creating a sideways view of giratina as a toy transforming sphere?

[atomic pawn]

yep

[white meadow]

Oh yeah 440 fusions how Tsareena steps on a Pokemon

[tame flax]

What I don't understand is how people can forget the game doesn't exist without the game part of the game

[atomic pawn]

the guy who sprited this is a legend btw

[pure flower]

Tbf. I been trying to pick a fusion I want to go through the game with. Haven't really figured anything out because I'm generally disinterested in doing a high bst Pokemon at a low level. Or one fully evolved.

Not many good water dragon fusions either

[atomic pawn]

cosmoem fusions would go crazy

[hearty vine]

I cheated because the bird lunala is corvinight

[civic harness]

Nice demonstrations

[hearty vine]

Thanks

[shrewd plover]

Guys

[civic harness]

Guys, I must make another warning, with what theme should I do it?

[atomic pawn]

spheals seems like a better choice than bruxish with only 5 pics 💀

[shrewd plover]

Ultra beasts should get into the game

[civic harness]

Pika-clones?

[white meadow]

i simply just don't vote either 👍

[tame flax]

The best pikaclone is already in the game

[atomic pawn]

also my goofy ahh fusions (honey one is combee)

[civic harness]

The most common problem that there is is that it becomes difficult to make sprites, even the professional spriters say they have problems with these

[tame flax]

It's all downhill from mimikyu

[shrewd plover]

But Ultra beasts are C00L

[regal vault]

Literally :3

[civic harness]

Well, for now the only two with the most fame are Necrozma and Stakataka before there was also Buzzwole but they called it ugly and breaking rule 2

[sharp nebula]

necrozma isnt a ub

[hearty vine]

Kartana head is origami fusions

[sterile spoke]

I wouldn't have to take anyone out. 😛

[sturdy breach]

Kartana is origami and samurai potential

[sterile spoke]

It's a preventative measure. Why add more problem children when we already have enough? 😂

[civic harness]

technically yes or did I make the biggest mistake

[sterile spoke]

Again, I'm saying this as if I get any say on who gets in or not. 😅

[hearty vine]

@sterile spoke what ub you wish to be added or think has the highest chance

[sturdy breach]

With all due respect, I hope you don't.

[civic harness]

Well, according to the spriters, it will be quite complicated due to the perspectives

[sterile spoke]

None, I dislike them. 😂

[hearty vine]

Fair argument

[sharp nebula]

its technically a legendary

[civic harness]

You should think about the spriters, dont exaggerate with the complicated pokemons but dont vote fat balls either

[sturdy breach]

Necrozma IS a UB. So are Lunala and Solgaleo TECHNICALLY

[sharp nebula]

nah they came from ultra space but theyre not classified ubs

[white meadow]

in terms of gameplay, they aren't, but in the lore they are

[hearty vine]

Goblin win is a good example for a good pick

[civic harness]

I think in the anime they classify it as UB

[sharp nebula]

the anime is definitely known for never being wrong

[civic harness]

So the anime fooled me, although I have seen it on some pages they also call it a Ultra Beast

[pure flower]

The question on that is, how correct has later entries of the anime been

So BW, XY, SM, and what not.

[sturdy breach]

I think even in the game's story they are revealed to be ultra beasts, but treated as non-invasive

[sharp nebula]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Necrozma_(Pokémon)#Trivia
basically in the games theyre not, anime they were called ubs before anyone knew what they were.

[civic harness]

So it was just the anime that confused people?

[regal vault]

So cute

[sturdy breach]

So they are Schrödinger's UB, basically

[regal vault]

IMAO

[odd summit]

I love Necrozma what a silly little goober

[regal vault]

BRAZIL

[atomic pawn]

memories broken
the truth goes unspoken, i've even forgotten my name

[civic harness]

Basil ruin the H-U-M-O-R

[atomic pawn]

out of context

[pure flower]

So. As far as I understand, Ultra Beasts as a classification refers to pokemon that originate from Ultra Wormholes. In which case that puts Necrozma, as well as the entire Cosmog line as UBs.

[odd summit]

I ruin everything it’s my special power

[atomic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-jetstream-sam-gif-25214623

[sharp nebula]

my googling was ignored

[sturdy breach]

Nah, they are basically both UBs and not UBs at the same time.

[atomic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/rowlet-sleep-pokemon-tired-gif-16995316

[civic harness]

Look, its a wild shiny Sylveon

[sturdy breach]

But it's not shiny in the gif 😦

[atomic pawn]

i refuse to catch it

[pure flower]

...I need caught up. Why are we even talking about classifications in the first place?

[atomic pawn]

because gulpin

[civic harness]

Is fake?

[odd summit]

The shiny Sylveon is a lie

[regal vault]

Analog horror

[civic harness]

Lego Archives

[regal vault]

How is shiny necrozma?

[atomic pawn]

no one made a propaganda in a long time im so happy
anyways

[atomic pawn]

it was dark blue iirc

[odd summit]

Fossil Pokémon beloved

[regal vault]

Lunala have a third eye

[odd summit]

Idk why so many people liked Solgaleo more than Lunala clearly Lunala is superior

[atomic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-he-agree-nodding-pokemon-legends-arceus-gif-24844405

[regal vault]

Lunala is harder to imagine fusions I think

[civic harness]

Well, is bat but cosmic

[odd summit]

That’s a fair point, Lion is easy to think of things for I suppose

[regal vault]

COMIC IMAO

[atomic pawn]

i hate both of them, give me my galaxy oval already

[civic harness]

I guess the mane is quite attractive

[silver ginkgo]

You misunderstood. Im not saying the fusions of the three will be similar, im saying their fusions with other pokemon will be similar. Like glaile fusion with charizard and glaile fusion with sceptile etc

[odd summit]

Damn you really went back to that message from last night, I’m surprised by the dedication

[civic harness]

And thats why I dont talk to people

[atomic pawn]

lol

[odd summit]

Well for me it was last night but in reality it was merely 3 hours
Strange how that works

[atomic pawn]

3 hours is still too much for replying to a discord message tbh

[regal vault]

Vote for teseerena!!!11!11

[odd summit]

True.

Also I love being gay, I get to resist the sus female Pokémon bullshit and enjoy my life

[atomic pawn]

you vote for tsareena
i vote for bounsweet because its a ball
we are not the same

[sharp nebula]

just switched from 2 to 3👍

[warm glen]

Pokémon becoming berries sounds funny

[atomic pawn]

being gay cant save you from weird side of community

[odd summit]

It can and it will
I’m gay AND have morals
Behold my ultimate power

[atomic pawn]

we found irl version of vergil

[odd summit]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-sa2-sonic-adventure2-the-ultimate-life-form-gif-25101705

[silver ginkgo]

I dont know where you are from but here its 15.00 and the message was sent at 12.00, didnt feel to old of a message

[warm glen]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-knuckles-knuckles-from-sonic2-knuckles-the-echidna-knucles-get-real-gif-25638818

[odd summit]

Either way that’s a long time ngl, and it seems you have a habit of continuing dead conversations or being late /lh

[atomic pawn]

daamn 3 hours what a short time

[odd summit]

Also idk about the sanders sides stuff unless that’s not who Vergil is idk I don’t keep up with theater kid shit /j

This slow mode sucks lmao cmooonnn let me speak continuously so I can look crazy cmooonnn

[atomic pawn]

vergil, theater kid? ok i refuse to say anything
and, its not from an anime or a cartoon (its from Devil May Cry, a perfection made out of 5 different games, most of them having 84-86 metascore)

[odd summit]

If it’s not a cartoon I don’t want it
I rebuke thee in the name of hatsune miku

[silk narwhal]

Remember

[sharp nebula]

i think i gave necrozma 2 so im good right yeah course

[civic harness]

Oh well, time to make the Pika-clone warning

[silk narwhal]

Why not a 3?

[lusty oxide]

You don’t need to warn people cos they aren’t doing it anyway

[sharp nebula]

i dont like it enough for 3 but thats not important

[silk narwhal]

Say that to him :)

[sharp nebula]

2 👍

[atomic pawn]

yep im giving togedemaru a 3, team sphere

[silk narwhal]

Fair lol

[lusty oxide]

Togedemaru stands out a lot more than the other pika clones so that’s fair

[sharp nebula]

i might switch to 3 if someone in the world happened to make necrozma/meloetta... but that would never happen

[sturdy breach]

Nah, Emolga is the only pika clone with any potential tbh

[warm glen]

Does this help perhaps?

[atomic pawn]

i dont think it helps unless necrozma is fused with meloetta lol

[sharp nebula]

cute 😀 2

[sharp nebula]

that one gets a solid 2 from me

[warm glen]

I didn't see the other message till after I sent it. Maybe I'll make a Meloetta/Necrozma fusion sprite after another Marshadow one

[atomic pawn]

i got bored, time to make a spheal fusion with something
hm....

[silk narwhal]

You know, i want to as well

[vast kindle]

By any chance is the Dragapult line also getting added?

[atomic pawn]

nothing from gen 8-9 is in the poll sadly (devs said game engine doesnt support gen 8-9 iirc)

[vast kindle]

Ah, damn D:

[silk narwhal]

No, they literally cannot add gen 8 and 9 pokemon

The engine they're using doesn't support them

[civic harness]

Well, some people come to think twice

[atomic pawn]

but theres still gen8-9 pokemons as fusions (like runerigus, onix + cofagrigus)

[civic harness]

A Necrozma Fumo?

[warm glen]

You could think of it like that sure. Bonus fact, I made Marshadow's body and legs a few pixels taller

[atomic pawn]

maybe i can try marshadow, might even give marshadow a 3 if i like it

but, first

[lusty oxide]

Btw anyone ever had that moment you saw a female hippowdon an thought it was a shiny

[plucky blaze]

I don't even remember if I knew about shineys when I played through 4G

[old bluff]

I had

[lusty oxide]

Btw did you also know there where plans to add more sexual dimorphism in diamond and pearl?

[sharp nebula]

yeah and a lot of them were trash

[versed loom]

Pls vote for the starly evolution line to be added to infinite fusion. Please and thanks

[final wolf]

who didn't

[fresh salmon]

Though it's literally smallest parts of the body, like the only good one in the beta is probably Raichu

[sharp nebula]

there was nothing there, look at this

[fresh salmon]

Seeing a single horned Charizard looks weird and ugly af

[lusty oxide]

Yea it does look weird

[shy marsh]

Boldore

[lusty oxide]

Also charizard improved his posture

[fresh salmon]

I prefer gender differences like Indeedee, Hippowdon, Wobbuffet, Unfezant, Jellicent and Pyroar

[crude garden]

Know who else needs to improve their posture by being in the game? Goodra

[fresh salmon]

Those are at least distinct

[pure flower]

The torchic gender difference is honestly pretty clever. Believe it takes it roots in female chickens being marked with a single dot to denote their gender

[fresh salmon]

And not just smaller horn/whisker/tail/whatever

[lusty oxide]

Isn’t the male the one with the dot?

[fresh salmon]

Yeah, true

[wispy saffron]

I made this thing, vote for the little nightmarcher guy

[pure flower]

Oh you're right. Oops

Although. I don't think combuskon has a gender difference. Female blaziken has smaller horns though.

[white meadow]

that bruxish fusion isn't helping

[warm glen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1087945627540930561/1097673643959533658/shocked-at-the-amount-of-money-mario.gif

[lusty oxide]

I like how you put the bruxish fusion on there it was a joke fusion

[wispy saffron]

I sort of figured so, so I have a bruxish-less alt

[pure flower]

Honestly. Those fusions definitely don't really vibe with me too much

Too diminutive for me.

[warm glen]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-toy-story-sad-depressed-disappointed-gif-26035791

[wispy saffron]

What about those that don’t use the Marshadow body, like the typhlosion, elecktross or scolipede ones

[pure flower]

Of those, only the Typlosion one looks decent to me

[remote ibex]

necrozema fusion is just like dawn wings and dusk something

[lusty oxide]

Maybe if you make a sylveon marshadow fusion i would hear you out

[warm glen]

Another one on the list then

[rapid topaz]

marshadow scolipede looks cool

[warm glen]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-omori-game-wooo-yeahhh-woohooo-gif-19992670

[lusty oxide]

I would be careful though cos it can also prove to me that marshadow is an inferior darkrai

[warm glen]

Guess I gotta try to get most creative with it then

[sharp nebula]

nah marshadow is better because fighting beats dark

[lusty oxide]

But the fairy type…

[sharp nebula]

darkrai isnt fairy

[lusty oxide]

Oh if we’re talking base darkrai then they’re immune

[odd summit]

I quite like Marshadows color palette but I’ll be honest I’ve never had a marshadow before so I can’t say if I would find it useful

[wispy saffron]

Lemme just add a short credits here
Lapras fusion made by: vilmerboss
Piplup fusion by: Dizzy
Typhlsion fusion by: new soup
Bruxish fusion by: TheWaffles
All other fusions by: WahooMario
I forgot about the beta Arceus which technically isn’t a real fusion just an eg for smth that could happen

[sharp nebula]

all you need to know is spectral thief steals the targets stat boosts

[odd summit]

👀👀👀 oOoh

[warm glen]

Plus technician shadow sneak

[sharp nebula]

and it has loads of attack and speed

[lusty oxide]

I like the idea that marshadow is literally stealing you mons soul

[warm glen]

How would you like a Marshadow fusion with Lurantis?

[pure flower]

Absolutely not.

[warm glen]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-oh-green-goblin-no-way-home-gif-24172438

[old bluff]

why not?

[pure flower]

Marshadow's color pallette to me really isn't all that interesting. As a head, doesn't offer anything more than what a gastly or spiritomb could do.

As a body, the general body is again too diminutive for my tastes

[sharp nebula]

youre WRONG its PERFECT

[atomic pawn]

can someone send me zenith marshadow sprite? not a big one preferably (tryna make a spheal marshadow fusion, cant find one anyhwere)

[pure flower]

I said to me. One's tastes in color pallettes and general sprites is purely subjective.

I generally don't enjoy diminutive designs or black/green/yellow

[wispy saffron]

I mean if you’re talking about a lurantis fusion with lurantis’s features on Marshadow I definitely see ur point but I think a lurantis body with the zenith form Marshadow palette could look pretty

[sharp nebula]

youre WRONG!

[old bluff]

small flamy luratnis would be very cute

[warm glen]

I'll still try the fusion, I make em for fun

[pure flower]

I know my own opinions. You can't exactly be wrong about a subjective like-dislike towards something.

[warm glen]

True

[sharp nebula]

no youre WRONG

[pure flower]

And to be clear. That goes both ways. You guys seem to enjoy the color pallette and diminutive fusions. That's fine. But it's not my personal vibe

[atomic pawn]

i have to use this zenith sprite i found on deviantart i guess..

[warm glen]

Marshadow body fusion can get harder because it's short. Humanoid Pokémon still can look good with it though, luckily Lurantis is sorta humanoid.

[pure flower]

Using it as a reference?

[sharp nebula]

youre WRONG its NOT fine

[atomic pawn]

trying to make a spheal marshadow fusion so yeah kinda like a reference

[old bluff]

dont be so agressive, not everyone needs to agree with everyone

[pure flower]

You do realize objecting to what you just objected to is basically saying "It's WRONG to like Marshadow's fusions and color palette"

[sharp nebula]

youre WRONG

[old bluff]

He lost some braincells

[atomic pawn]

bruh add a spheal img there already, it literally became a meme for a short time

[pure flower]

You're getting so jumpy you're accidentally agreeing to stuff that goes against your apparent opinions lol

[sharp nebula]

bro im literally joking relax

[lusty oxide]

I can send the original image if you want that with a transparent background

[iron quartz]

You want a spheal in there?
give me 1 min

[pure flower]

Oh. I honestly can't tell with this community.

[iron quartz]

@atomic pawn

[atomic pawn]

not rly "wanting" more like suggesting but that works lol

[old bluff]

should i keep the smile, because it turned out little wonky

[sharp nebula]

i thought the repetition and capitals made it clear, guess not

[atomic pawn]

what th fu-

[iron quartz]

What in the chaotic hell

[old bluff]

sableye/lurantis

[pure flower]

There was a person here the other day who was that defensive as well as toxic when you mentioned not liking their pokemon they wanted in

[old bluff]

yeah, sarcasm flows weakly in the internet

[atomic pawn]

hm the zenith form i found on deviantart has same size as pokemon showdown regular marshadow sprite, nice

[warm glen]

Toxic sure was bad for persuading Marshadow voting

[lusty oxide]

It’s gotten less toxic over time I’ve noticed