runescape

[simple grail]

but he had to flick at the end or he would have died

[rapid pawn]

he was doing a nopillar

that’s way different

[simple grail]

right right

forgot about that

[analog sequoia]

regular mage tank is obviously not gonna let the nibbler kill the pillars

[sly tartan]

btw before bowfa came out, what was the average-man's go-to inferno weapon? ACB?

[simple grail]

twisted bow

[rapid pawn]

acb or tbow

[sly tartan]

I heard bowfa was a huge buff to the average inferno runner

pre-tbow ofc

tbow is #1 even today

[simple grail]

you just didn't do it lol

yeah tbow is still bis

[sly tartan]

really?

[simple grail]

well of course some people did but those weapons sucked because they suck

and they have less than 10 range

[sly tartan]

let me re-phrase lmao

the non-tbow, average runner's ranged weapon

[simple grail]

bowfa is really good because it's a good weapon and 10 range

[sly tartan]

but we got so much inferno buffs

-> prayer regen saving space
-> armadyl potions
-> bofa

[simple grail]

that were developed by Jagex

with that knowledge

[sly tartan]

the inferno today vs. a while ago is two different things

in terms of expected difficulty

[rapid pawn]

i mean jagex famously is bad at projecting the results of things they release

[sly tartan]

I was also on the bow wiki

[rapid pawn]

things being way more op than intended

[sly tartan]

ant the bow tierlist (items that use arrows) is basically

-> tbow
-> bowfa

and then you have scobow for demons and venny bow for AoE

so are the seeker arrows that are coming with the new quest only a tbow/doom buff?

[simple grail]

yeah only arrow buff

idk why tbow needed a buff tbh lmao

[sly tartan]

I guess venny bow aoe too

[simple grail]

yeah it's actually really godd there

because it would apply the bonus for each hit I think

so it's like 3x better for those iirc

[sly tartan]

I mean depends how much you get per hour, but that doesnt matter since mains will buy them

maybe they have a new bow planned for the future

maybe the "red prison = bad game design" comment from the jmod doesnt mean nerfing CG

maybe raids4 will have a fang-tier ranged weapon that uses arrows

thats fang-rarity

if that makes sense

btw I seen another vid on ranged stuff, and apparently even today the blowpipe with dragon darts is better than bowfa on low defense mobs

[simple grail]

yeah it's great

better than tbow

[sly tartan]

like bloodvelds

or nechs

[simple grail]

100% accuracy blowpipe is pretty much always bis

like at Doom car phase

[sly tartan]

wonder if thats the case for amathst or rune

and doesnt need ranged bis (masori)

[simple grail]

you lose 1 max hit with amethyst so probably still ye

void is better than masori

for stuff with high accuracy

[sly tartan]

what is the pipe good at in 2026

for irons

[simple grail]

turael skipping, inferno, tob, doom

[sly tartan]

I know about that

what about slayer and shit

like leveling slayer

[leaden jolt]

You don't use it if you're efficient

[sly tartan]

[simple grail]

I did all my slayer before getting pipe, I would assume it's fine but it would use a shit ton of scales

doesn't seem worth

[leaden jolt]

You spend way too much time making ammo

[sly tartan]

I guess 1 item clues too

[sly tartan]

0 time if you mine while doing other things

like if I'm playing other games, and would normally get 0 hours in rs

[leaden jolt]

You still have to fletch it and get scales from zulrah

[sly tartan]

and I''m able to get some afk activity in

thats basically free

[simple grail]

just skimmed through some later waves but yeah I was fully wrong lmao you just tank everything that's kinda wild

[sly tartan]

I was under the assumption that you'll have all the scales you'll ever need just getting the drop

(unless you're extremely spooned)

[simple grail]

you don't

[sly tartan]

yea thats what I was talking about earlier

with full mage tank bis you just straight up dont care about shit

[simple grail]

if you're gonna use pipe for slayer that's gonna be hundreds of hours using pipe

[sly tartan]

well only the tasks its good on

[simple grail]

yeah so hundreds of hours

[rapid pawn]

yeah it’s insane. confliction gauntlets are cracked

[simple grail]

I'd assume blowpipe would be best at every place you don't barrage at

stuff like tormented demons I think blowpipe is pretty good at

[sly tartan]

really? better than bowfa?

[simple grail]

it's kinda hard to calc there's some time where ur 100% accurate

then it would be better yea

wiki thinks it's better yeah

[leaden jolt]

Most tasks of efficent slayer are bosses like hydra and cerb. Tasks you barrage like abyssal demons, araxytes, dagannoths, nechryael, smoke devils. And optionally some melee stuff like melee nechs. There aren't a ton of places you would use blowpipe a lot.

[simple grail]

Agreed, but I think he's talking about early slayer

stuff like bloodvelds

tormented demons

demonic gorillas

you could probably get away with using blowpipe at these places if you have a lot of scales

I wouldn't know I got mine at like 160 kc

[sly tartan]

I'm at 460 cg, still at 5/6 armor

[simple grail]

darts aren't really an issue imo

[sly tartan]

I want to go make planks

[simple grail]

amethyst mining is afk, accumulator is big

[sly tartan]

yea early slayer, stuff ima do after con

which is basically demonic gorillas, tds

and non shit tasks I can do with my level

[simple grail]

yeah bp would be better there

[sly tartan]

by a lot or like 1% better for 100x more resources

[leaden jolt]

I mean if you're being efficient then amethyst is really bad. Like if you mine 720 amethyst darts per hour and then you shoot 3k per hour at full uptime and lose 600/hr with accumulator. You spend nearly as much time mining as you do using the blowpipe. Which is pretty bad unless you just use the argment "well it was afk"

[simple grail]

That's a fair point but yeah it's basically just it was afk argument

I really hate mining, so if I can train it afk I will

I did my share of 3t sandstone and I'm all good

the new rubium seems sick though

[leaden jolt]

For 0.1 dps difference compared to infinite ammo

[simple grail]

max hit 26?

doesn't seem right

what gear is that lol

[sly tartan]

lmaoo

should've started with that

when I was asking if its better

[simple grail]

there's no way it's accurate

[sly tartan]

I was thinking of something like

[simple grail]

26 max hit is way too low

[sly tartan]

when cooper told me not to to TDs with atlatl

and showed me atlatl ttk vs. bowfa

[leaden jolt]

Crystal, deadeye, 99 range, range pot.

[sly tartan]

and it was uuge

[simple grail]

lol bro

where's the slayer helmet

[sly tartan]

I mean that would scale the same for both no?

[simple grail]

well yesn't?

you're replacing the crystal helm which buffs the bowfa

no reason to get an inaccurate view of it though

[sly tartan]

the crystal hat is poopie anyway

[simple grail]

and yet you're still at cg :)

[leaden jolt]

Blowpipe pulls away a bit with slayer helm. But I still don't think its worth a 50% time loss

[sly tartan]

yea, because it feels bad leaving at 5/6

[simple grail]

well there we go now we're talking

[sly tartan]

also salad blade cope

[sly tartan]

damn saving 2 seconds to spend 2 years at the amethyst mine + scale farming

[leaden jolt]

But unless you really need the healing or have 100% accuracy bowfa is almost always the right tool for the job

[sly tartan]

I got a d2h for punishing

wiki says its the second best punish weapon behind idr

one of the few things the chaos elemental blessed me with

[simple grail]

I don't think you realize this is the game we're playing

There's almost never "oh wow this is 2x as fast"

it's all incremental shit, except megarares

[sly tartan]

oh no I understand

[simple grail]

even megarares sometimes don't even matter much

at doom it's like 1 more dps compared to scobow

[leaden jolt]

Bowfa is great on inferno meleer too, but the blowpipe spec can get you out of a pickle

[simple grail]

blowpipe spec is great for inferno

[sly tartan]

but comparing [free item] vs. [super expensive to maintain] for potentially 2 seconds ttk is a bit silly

[simple grail]

agreed I mean I used bowfa for my alchemical hydra grind

because the blowpipe was barely better and not worth to use

i used it for spec though

since there's like no good spec for ranged

so it's actually pretty nice to have

[sly tartan]

we're talking about TDs, not the inferno

[simple grail]

oh I mean you just don't use ranged there

simple as that

[sly tartan]

we all know the skinflute is great to have for those peices of content

[simple grail]

until you get scobow

[sly tartan]

I seen sardicko camp bowfa and swap to arclight

and kill them fairly fast

he didnt even swap to melee gear, just wore crystal the entire time

[simple grail]

you can always do worse dps for cheaper

that's why the bowfa is great

it's free

[leaden jolt]

I've only had one TDs task and I did bowfa/arclight and it was fine. I'm sure mage is faster than bowfa but it's pricey. But all my buyables are done so I'll probably do it when I go back

[sly tartan]

I rather spend my rune money on bursting

[simple grail]

yeah I mean the reason I used it is because it's cash

not some other finite resource

cash wasn't very important for me

but I literally did train to 90 rc because of TDs grind so you know take my word for a grain of salt

[sly tartan]

my main chase item there are the poverty claws

even though I heard they beat dclaws in a lot of content that lasts longer than X seconds (idk what the threshehold is)

[leaden jolt]

All I've got left is sailing, runecraft, and combats/slayer

[simple grail]

both items are chase items

[sly tartan]

also I'd love to give duo yama a go. I remember nuc told me duo yama is pretty straight chill with the synapse staff and blue moon

[simple grail]

holy 5 99s in 20 days

[sly tartan]

very nice

[simple grail]

you should melee yama and then mage in p3 (or learn fly

if you're concerned about using runes at tds you will also be concered at Yama lmao

if you mage camp Yama you're gonna use way more runes there than TDs

[sly tartan]

yea but yama is like

gud content

with oathplate

its investing runes

[simple grail]

TDs as well

TDs is the best slayer mob in the game

[sly tartan]

lmaoo people trolling odablock's hardcore by having him react to a video causing his teleport crystal to pop because of inactivity

costing him 70k every pop

he's on the moons grind on the hardcore; so 70k pops prolly hurt

speaking of teleport crystal

outside of suiciding clues and boning; is there anything else the ferrox respawn point is useful for?

feels pretty pricy for 5m

[leaden jolt]

It's a close respawn to a bank and good for wilderness slayer. I like my edgeville respawn

[sly tartan]

ah wildy slayer, always forget thats a thing

I know about the bank

[simple grail]

I don't understand why it's tping him he's not in combat though

"Additionally, the crystal can be configured to auto-activate upon taking damage (including zeros) after a specified time of inactivity ("

[sly tartan]

idk, it was the moons area

I closed the video

[broken ember]

Ew mage is more chill

Be a noob like me and mage and snooze away

[simple grail]

idk where this myth is spread

p1 and p2 is giga chill for melee

only p3 is actually more difficult with melee

I did mage camp day 1 and then I realized wow this is terrible and used mage for only p3, then I learned fly

[stray rapids]

It also can TP when you don't interact with the client for too long, to protect from disconnects

[simple grail]

Really?

Doesn't say that on the wiki

It has some certain exceptions for stuff like TOA "If you're carrying an active escape crystal, it will now auto-teleport you out of the Tombs of Amascut during phase 3 of the Wardens if you appear AFK when the red skulls explode. " but idk seems like a bug

it doesn't seem correct behaviour to just tp you away if you're afk without being in combat

[stray rapids]

Hmm yeah maybe that's not true

I don't know if there's a specific video but if he's at moons like Marat mentioned then he's probably in combat

[simple grail]

https://youtube.com/shorts/B4mHDs3x3lY

It sounds like the cooking sound in the background, I think it's bugged tbh

does it count the cooking as being in combat? like huh

[opal cove]

did you read the comments

[simple grail]

yeah that's me writing that

[opal cove]

nerd

lol

if funny this was not the first time in same stream

[simple grail]

[proper lotus]

anyone else having trouble turning this on? its from pluginhub. i try to turn it on, but it INSTANTLY turns itself off.

[leaden jolt]

It has some bugs. I think you need to have it on when you start the client. There’s an active takeover request for the plugin to update it

[proper lotus]

wait. how ddo you toggle one on when you start a client? or do you mean before you login or wat

[sly tartan]

that was the vid I seen, but not the short

I watched the whole vod

[sly tartan]

are 60 combats enough to setup the lizardman red-x?

I remembered I have a main I played for 3 weeks when osrs came out

and never again

[analog star]

Pretty good pb for t2 prep. Just had great room rng. Could have been faster if I had some mid lvl mobs spawn near start for shards or I fished a few less fish. That kill was 5 dps but my fastest kill ever was a 6 dps 2:48.

[hidden karma]

It’s multi. Your iron could help

[sly tartan]

if 60s with help is enough to setup a red-x, nice

worst case scenerio I can hit the crab for a week or so, its a main so items arnt an issue

[hidden karma]

Griefers suck

They’ll just come to the world and reset your aggros

[sly tartan]

there are people activly griefing red-x setups?

or is it just people running by

[leaden jolt]

Its a clue steo

[sly tartan]

ah

thats not exactly griefing imo

activly griefing is seeing somebody doing a red-x, and then messing up the setup to troll

running by for a clue is just well the game

[hidden karma]

People are also clue-less.

[brazen fern]

how is that I have 2 accs in one world afking salvage and one was getting packet loss like crazy lol

[sly tartan]

just to confirm: blazing blowpipe makes the blowpipe free from death right? (value 120k)

works the same as all other ornament kits and death?

[next swallow]

yeah I use it for doom

[sly tartan]

I'm jelous of ya'll who have the motivation to play leagues

getting 9k points for thralls and home tele felt like a punishment

mostly because I wasnt exactly having fun, and just wanted to grind the cosmetic out

[hidden karma]

It’s sorta fun for the flash in the pan of fun

But anybody that goes beyond mithril and then immediately plays regular mode after is wild lol

[sly tartan]

I feel like its fun for people like ya'll

who already got end game accounts

for me the major issue is everything I do on leagues I have to do on the main game

so it feels like I'm just wasting time progressing my real account on a temporary game mode

I loved gridmaster though

because there was almost no grinding or menial tasks; just straight dopamine; and pretty fast to complete

I'd happily play all future gridmaster-type events

[hidden karma]

My whole point of doing leagues was to power learn melee yama p3 just for the melee build to be absolutely dog shit unless actually at the end of the game

[sly tartan]

I wish leagues had a better like way to pace the player

half my time was spent on the wiki looking for stuff I can do

and dming cooper and fox

for task ideas

[hidden karma]

Previous leagues you got so strong so fast

There was some really strong early magic builds but not melee

[sly tartan]

I was watching a vid by idk who, and he did mention this league is a fair bit slower than leagues5 (but he said it was a good thing)

[sly tartan]

he mentioned how you'd get strong really fast early, and then the scaling would flatten

while this league I was pretty much a normal player until 8 PoE points + warped scepter

[hidden karma]

The previous leagues having a quick way to get 2 or 3 tick styles instantly made you feel stronger

Not having that was sad

[sly tartan]

my opinion might mean nothing, I'm just a somewhat casual gray helm iron

but for me a temp gamemode needs to get the dopamine going, and make me want to log in and do stuff in it and not feel bad that I'm loosing out on CG KC in the real game

[sly tartan]

if I got strong way earlier this league, maybe it would've changed how I felt about it

I only got to "be strong" for like an hour, because right after warped scepter I sent jad; and that got me enough points for 9k (my goal)

[hidden karma]

I just get so burnt out so fast and it’s all temp

[sly tartan]

I really wanted the thralls

the home tele dance is cool too

[hidden karma]

2 leagues ago I did 40 purples to finally get a shadow on a mage build

And I quit the day after

[sly tartan]

I considered going for more points if I started to have fun after the warped scepter (blowpipe, slayer helm, cannon)

but nope

[sly tartan]

gridmaster's ticket system was cool

[hidden karma]

I didn’t play gm

[sly tartan]

was actually a ton of fun

the only downside is the cosmetic I wanted, the log-in poh stuff

looks like a trump cardboard cutout

like some temu shit

from the 99 gp shop

for some reason I had the expectation of the chapel becoming as epic as the classic login screen, but no

https://i.imgur.com/pGFAgzu.png

[sly tartan]

I was watching Sardocko do doom, and he still uses a Darklight instead of an Emberlight for the grubs. Before he got the Emberlight, I thought it was to save charges on the Arclight.

I went on the wiki Doom strat page, and it suggests a Darklight, and no mention of the Emberlight. Doesnt seem to explain the reason why either.

I checked the darklight vs. emberlight wiki; and it seems the darklight is 5 tick vs. 4 tick emberlight

Is there like a specific reason you'd want the darklight for grubs vs. an emberlight?

[next swallow]

death cost

[sly tartan]

oh

ok yea now it all adds up

[next swallow]

attack speed doesnt matter because grubs are always 1t

[sly tartan]

yea they die in 1t/1hit so

I was like ??

[next swallow]

same reason you use either a slayer staff or the skull sceptre, super cheap

and can autocast demonbane spells

[sly tartan]

thanks

stuff like that should be a note on the strat page ngl

but I guess anybody doing doom will prolly know enough about the game

[sly tartan]

both invy setups mention the slayer staff

lmaoo they didnt want another billionare gets 99 smithing in 10 minutes meme; like how odablock trained crafting and smithing to 99 making a ton of crystal bodies

wait I'm stupid, you can dismantle the synapse weapons for no loss; so it would be crazy xp if they didnt nerf it

[next swallow]

you do lose arclight charges when you dismantle it

[sly tartan]

yea but what about the scobow

wait thats fletching xp

and staff is crafting

if tier 1 CG is a 5 on the difficulty scale

what is duo yama in blue moon and a purging staff

higher or lower

[next swallow]

duo yama is pretty chill

[sly tartan]

yea long ago nuc invited me, but he didnt know I dont have the staff

he was the one that told me all I need is the staff and blue moon

[echo nebula]

if u duo with someone who knows how to do it u can literally afk till p3

[sly tartan]

I'd like to contribute and learn

and get decent loot credit

[echo nebula]

you just stand on glyphs before the spec hits you its nothing complicated

[sly tartan]

get that juicy oathplate

[sly tartan]

also click the marked tile when the fire touches the other marked tile

[echo nebula]

yea p3 is just movement

im oce so idk if i could teach you w/ the ping

[sly tartan]

I'm still in CG

and 0kc on TDs

was just asking since it came to mind googling the arclight

[echo nebula]

hopefull you dont have my rng

[sly tartan]

main or iron?

[sly tartan]

the horn is a good drop no? also only 139 kc

[next swallow]

it's kinda useless for solo stuff

it'll be good for duoing more yama tho

[sly tartan]

horn is 1/300, with each piece being 1/600 [100% contribution]

is his etc droptable like good supplies?

I know he has the cool shark bait

yama looks like fun content, and a better time investment vs. bandos and nex

if its actually fun, I dont mind doing 1000kc+

[sly tartan]

@simple grail in RS3 when you got a boss task doing slayer, did the master force you to do the boss task; or did the master offer the boss task and you could choose to not do it

I was talking to @analog star about boss tasks, and for some reason in my head I thought boss tasks are offerered, and you can just say no and you get a regular task instead

like the slayer master goes "your task is to kill 50 monkeys, but would you like to kill zulrah instead; yes // no"

if you press no, you'd just do the normal slayer task, if you do yes you'd go do the boss task

[simple grail]

So there are three different tasks
Regular good old Slayer
Special assignment, from slayer Masters, these you can say no to
Reaper tasks, which are only for Bosses and are offered by Death, giving reaper points you use to buy hydrix (basically Zenyte). What you get is what you get (with Elite CA you can choose what you get)

You can skip the reaper task for 30 slayer points

[sly tartan]

okay so I was thinking of rs3 days

because in my head I always had the option of saying no to boss tasks

thanks

[simple grail]

Excellent supplies

Except like sometimes u get 20 emeralds

You get angler fish bait, basically the only boss that drops anglerfish (it makes fishing like 2-3x faster). You can get wrath runes if you don't have the RC level

Demonic tallow for surge pots

[sly tartan]

I know about the baits

really cool concept

[simple grail]

Yeah it's nice

[sly tartan]

its a way of indirectly dropping supplies without tanking the price for mains

like how flax went from 100 gp ea back in the day to 1

[simple grail]

And they're not like shark bait which makes it give like 0 xp

[sly tartan]

when I started playing osrs, I found it hard to beleive flax was 1 gp

[simple grail]

Flax cost 76 GP in rs3 since we don't have Zulrah (and gp is like 10x so it's like 7 GP OSRS)

I actually started a new gim on rs3 with my friend

[zinc dagger]

Huh, had no idea Zulrah was osrs only

[sly tartan]

I think it was the first osrs exclusive boss

[sly tartan]

pre-ge when I was a kid

I came home from school

picked flax for like half an hour to an hour

and sold it right at seers bank

and that funded the days worth of activities

[analog star]

Red prison over

1.5k leftover shards. I'll do at least one kc a day still. I want pet and salad blade someday.

[simple grail]

gzzzz

[analog star]

First CG kill was April 14th. I mostly did T2 prep. I know I got really lucky and feel for all the irons going dry.

[sly tartan]

I'm at 471, need 1 more armor seed

salad blade soon, beleive bois

[broken ember]

Y'all lucky af

[ripe timber]

471 for 5 armor seeds is a bit unlucky isn’t it

[opal cove]

I want to play OSRS but I got a stupid slayer task so I am a bit discurraged

I was tired last time I played. IDK why I was doing so shit vs chaos fanatic

[long zinc]

u can do something other than slayer

[opal cove]

I will open runescape and afk at carb

I should do bossing instead

barrows

[sterile shale]

Urgh, I pivoted my build from water/thorns to Trident/Thorns and feel like I've screwed myself, I heal nothing, don't restore prayer been trying echo ax and basically just have to spam shark karam to survive and let it die to thorns and now I'm looking at how many Pact points I need to fix the problem and regret it...

Can anyone have a look at my pacts and tell me which direction to go to be able to heal up with this build?

I switched so I'd be an unkillable machine gun like Faux build a month ago (only got to start leagues this week) but other than Trident have I basically forced myself to go Tirawan 3rd for Trident upgrade? I know I have resets I just want to make this build start working.

Really wanted to go wildy next just feel like even with 17 points I don't do well enough with thorns, magic damage is fine but I'm locked into Trident, I heal nothing and get no prayer from hits so it's worse in every way. No more spam posts now sorry all just frustrated and I know if I post on Reddit it'll just get down voted and ignored.

[long zinc]

i think u need kandarin echo wep

[opal cove]

what's the best way to get feathers on ironman?

[next swallow]

buy feather packs from a shop

[opal cove]

that's what I assumed

closest to me is draynor

[next swallow]

you also passively get some from birdhouse runs

[sterile shale]

Kandarin echo wep is Quadrant off echo thermonuclear but it casts normal spells, that's what I was working towards with Water build but it's not a powered staff so doesn't fit the trident build

[sly tartan]

@ripe timber I have a bowfa, so its fine

if anything it kind of gives me a bit of hope that I can get

a salad blade

[sly tartan]

@simple grail I found a crazy dude; he's not a bronzeman

[hidden karma]

i dont get mains who do it for money, its bot behavior

[sly tartan]

idk if he's a bot; he also had the gnome child fit

and I mentioned the monkey

he instantly ran to get the monkey backpack

also added him

I think he's just having fun in red prison, and wants a natural enh

organic gmo free

[simple grail]

Who invited Dexter here lmao "tonights the night"

[proven jay]

1/70 for occult lmao

[simple grail]

kill the small guys for the occult

[proven jay]

i havent had a smoke devil tsk yet, only thermy

[simple grail]

oh i see right

good luck

[proven jay]

lmfao i'm double drop rate on smoke devils too

[undone spear]

300 Zulrah for first unique drop (Onyx). Not worst dry streak, and there are worse things to kill dry.

[hidden karma]

Considering you can buy onyx that’s pretty bad

I think it’s meant to be 1 in 120

[fallow pecan]

Still a collection log slot 😄

[hidden karma]

[undone spear]

Also 850 on tormented without synapse

But 4 claws for some reason

[hidden karma]

I got the 2 claws and 2 synapse in 400 or 600 kc

3* synapse

I have a 4th in my bank

[undone spear]

Oh yeah, I got first abyssal whip on 1200 kc

But to balance things out I got full angler in 20 trawlers or so

[hidden karma]

is your iron ever wet

lol

[undone spear]

Not even iron, I play with bronzeman rules (without pvp). I've had occasional luck, but recently most grinds have felt dry. I want synapse for Kril/eventual Yama, plus blowpipe and toxic trident in general.

[simple grail]

got my first one at 1500 kc

[broken ravine]

hey I'm tryna get ice gloves for blast furnace but I don't have 50 mining yet is there a way that I can get in before that

[simple grail]

No

Boostable level 50 is the requirement

[hidden karma]

50 mining is not hard to get dw

[muted bane]

only half way

[lucid tide]

what kind of image works well here

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/1togihu/i_edited_the_gpu_plugin_to_support_a_custom/

oh wait it hasnt been added yet

[hidden karma]

It’s cringe these people show stuff that isn’t released yet lol

Or may never be

[sly tartan]

Whats better crystal/bowfa lizardmen shamans running around the room, or wearing shayzian with bowfa?

I wanna try to do shamans organically in the future, before going "fuck this, time to red-x"

[leaden jolt]

You need to wear full shayzien if you aren't doing red-x

[sick pelican]

you can run around without but it's really aids and impractical

i recommend bp if u got it

[stray rapids]

Shayzien with BofA is also fine

iirc it's a pretty minimal DPS difference from blowpipe, but I also haven't checked in awhile so don't quote me on that

[sick pelican]

it's a pretty noticeable diff

this is on task with amethyst darts and deadeye

[next swallow]

iirc they have a weakness to light ranged

so bp slaps

[leaden jolt]

Off task, amethyst, deadeye. BP is good but red-x crystal + bowfa is pretty good too

[stray rapids]

Oh true, I guess I checked long before weaknesses were a thing and also before I had amethyst darts 😬

[sick pelican]

id just never consider red x because that feels like cheating (the ironman spirit not the game)

[sly tartan]

ah, I swore I seen people run around w/o it on task

[sick pelican]

helm can count

[leaden jolt]

If you're killing one for the clue scroll maybe. But you probably wouldn't get more than a 3kc trip without the outfit

[sly tartan]

maybe thats what was going on

[sly tartan]

isnt BP only better dps than bowfa if you're acutally shooting every 2 ticks

but if you're running around

and start missing attacks, you're heavily griefing dps

like I remember watching sardocko grind out the inferno

the healers with blowpipe where grief, because it was hard to walk click walk click

but when he just used the blowpipe to tag, and bowfa to kill

he ended up doing wayyy more dps because he wasnt "loosing shots"

ofcourse it boils down to a skill issue and APM; but you get what I mean

[leaden jolt]

Of course, but learning to bp walk is a good skill

[sly tartan]

ye

but a lot of stress on the first zuc

[leaden jolt]

And thats why you practice bp walk before you get to zuk

[sly tartan]

cant argue there

but is it really that big of a diff

5000 apm bp walk vs. tag and carefully bowfa

[leaden jolt]

One click per tick is 5000 apm?

[sly tartan]

I guess its 100 apm!

[hidden karma]

Don’t be hyperbolic to cooper

[simple grail]

BP is much much much better to kill the ranger for one simple reason

it has a special attack

but basically what you wanna do, depending on if the shield starts going left or right, if the set spawns when the shield is on the ranger, you just kill him with blowpipe asap, if it spawns near the mager you bowfa from far away, then switch to blowpipe and kill it

it's really important to kill the ranger quickly because otherwise your shield will break and you will die

Zuk is all about DPS

if you have low dps you will die

you should never lose ticks, you should always be doing something

losing ticks means longer zuk means more time with zuk means more sets will spawn etc

perfecting how to tag healers is a really important skill to learn

so yeah don't "tag carefully"

you can't afford being careful at Zuk

it's literally a race against time and you have to win

or you gotta do all the waves again

[sly tartan]

we're talking about the healers

sardicko lost most of his zucc attempts piping the healers

because he missed shots, and got clapped by the poop they fling

when he swapped to tagging with pipe, and then bowfa to kill them; he got zucc down fairly fast

because there was almost no "lost dps" from running or eating/brewing

I used to do decent on the zucc sim, and for the set I'd just pipe the ranger asap, and pray mage

after he died

[next swallow]

rate my cooking drip, im a bond warrior

[sly tartan]

the cape being trimmed is too unrealistic

outside of that I like it

needs a bracelet though

and you're set

(bond warriors dont do RFD)

they trim all their dragon shit, so you got that on point

idk if you got lucky or the dragon ornament kits are common; but I like the outfit and you even made the ugly ass slayer helm look good

[ripe timber]

that’s not a slayer helm

[fallow pecan]

Serp helm with magma mutagen, how very not bond warrior

[zinc dagger]

Used the bonds to buy zulrah services 😱

[analog star]

High level player look

[sly tartan]

btw I was watching a vid

you had had players shit on invy tags, the plugin that lets you outline items in your invy

that plugin is peak, idk what there is to dislike

[zinc dagger]

Just get good and learn what items are

[simple grail]

well yeah that's fine

the most important part is tagging them quickly

[simple grail]

it looks ugly

[analog sequoia]

yea and it isnt hard to just remember that blowpipe is ranged and sword is melee

or whatever you use for farming and what you use for herblore

[opal cove]

bummer

the only way to get a iron crossbow is make one

[zinc dagger]

Why would you want an iron crossbow?

[opal cove]

level 30 ranged

[zinc dagger]

Just use a bone crossbow then

Metal ones pre-rune just aren't worth

[opal cove]

I thought I could make one but its 39 fletcting and I am 34

O cool is sold

[hidden karma]

its a really good crossbow and fast attack speed

[zinc dagger]

Yeah you're wasting your time trying to use a crossbow that isn't the bone one

ammo's cheap too

[opal cove]

I got a willow longbow 😅

[zinc dagger]

Okay, use the bone crossbow instead

[opal cove]

o wait I would want maple lol

lol I am using a shield when the f2p defender is in my bank for my ironman

[opal cove]

thanks I did not know it was so low level

dam the item hold up for a while

[zinc dagger]

Yeah you just go from bone crossbow to msb/rune crossbow

[opal cove]

I keep forgetting rogue's den has a bank chest

[analog sequoia]

really? i see a lot of people talking about the fact you have a bank close to a fire that isnt myths guild

[opal cove]

6 months ago I was doing crystal chest I think and I was running to Falador

it be cool if the forester's Campfire rest did something other than be a visual effect

[fallow pecan]

sorry we can't have resting, that's an RS3 thing

[opal cove]

we added sailing I think we can have new things

[fallow pecan]

I didn't say it was new, I said it was RS3

pay attention

[hidden karma]

we should add combat hotkeys

[opal cove]

okay so is every skill but sailing

I think we remove all the content also in rs3

[hidden karma]

imagine on f2 you hit them with CRUSH (crush) attack style and with f3 you hit them with CRUSH (pummel)

this could really evolution the combat

[opal cove]

if we added hot keys into rs bossing becomes easier

a lot easier

[hidden karma]

hotkeys specifically for attack styles

so it's basically completely useless

[opal cove]

how about hot keys for inventory?

why can't I press 1 to heal and 2 for anti posion

[hidden karma]

no no that'd be rs3

[opal cove]

is that really how rs3 works now?

[lucid knot]

yep

[hidden karma]

ya you can hotkey inventory stuff

[opal cove]

I last played rs3 on a legacy mode server

it removed the special attacks

[opal cove]

we can make it a shitty version of it

I was thinking resting was going to be like Rapid heal

I just did glass blowing for the first time in OSRS. Iroman is cool

I could of bought the lamp 🙁

Dorgesh-Kaan

[opal cove]

so it made sense to make one in stock is actually 0

[opal cove]

what does this 14 mean?

[broken ember]

14 kills left on your current slayer task

[opal cove]

runelite plugin?

[broken ember]

Should be

[opal cove]

then it is for sure

14 bears

[analog sequoia]

thats lunar spellbook feature3

[opal cove]

what spell?

[leaden jolt]

[[Dream]]

[steel thorn]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dream

[analog sequoia]

dream

[hidden karma]

9th unsire was 2nd jar

10th unsire was last bludgeon piece

[opal cove]

isn't that just a meme spell?

[analog sequoia]

probably has some obscure use but yea mostly just for the acbspecsoundeffect

[opal cove]

it requires recources though

[analog sequoia]

when using the jar

[opal cove]

did you know you can give Fairy Nuff gems to heal

service is impossible to use after starting Fairytale I

[leaden jolt]

I've seen DK alts sitting at the top of the ladder using the dream spell

[simple grail]

gz

[opal cove]

is moolita just better now

+5 prayer might just be too good

[zinc dagger]

Mooleta until you get the stats for warriors guild and then go for dragon defender i guess

[opal cove]

right now my iron is at 125 attack and and strength

[sly tartan]

my irons ranged weapon progression was

bone cbow -> rune cbow with broad bolts // magic shortbow -> atlatl -> etc.

[zinc dagger]

I'd go bust out another 5 levels at crab and then work on ddef, 60 def req for the ddef

[sly tartan]

are you still playing the unlocking mode

where you roll random items

[opal cove]

yeah

3 more slayer tasks before I get slayer points

[sly tartan]

outside of diaries, I think I did my first slayer task at like 60 slayer

I just did all the quests I could, and I think the first time I had to grind slayer was for MM2

before the MM2 slayer grind, the only slayer tasks I did where turael boosting for the slayer helm (diary) and broad bolts (poverty ammo)

[opal cove]

I am doing tale of Righteous right now

wiki recommends mm2 later

[opal cove]

best gind by far is fairy tale 2 start

[sly tartan]

huh

arnt the fairy ring requirements like super smol

unless you get fucked on the RNG materials in nature spirit

[opal cove]

you unlock fairy rings though

[zinc dagger]

Barely a grind though

[sly tartan]

nature spirit can fuck you, but outside of that yea

[opal cove]

RFD took longer than it should of on my main but that's only because the end fights are easier than I expected

you would think it be a least a bit hard without any prayer

I think only one of the bosses at the end is any BS and that's only if you don't bring a stat resto pot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEX99ekeAmU video does not matter but I learned about items I did not know existed

[[Green spiky vambraces]] has a +2 melee strength for some reason

[[Green spiky vambraces]]

[steel thorn]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Green_spiky_vambraces

[opal cove]

kebbit claws + Green dhide vambraces

there are so many item in runescape. I don't even know 1/2 the items in game

[opal cove]

it fucked me over since I was stupid and my food rotted

[sly tartan]

dead content

irons go straight from like green to black dhide lmao

[opal cove]

its better than the reagular ones so BIS at 40

[sly tartan]

I mean ideally you use the best RFD gloves you have

mith gloves should be free

but yea early ironman is quest scape, and constnat dopamine from level ups and quest complete/task complete

so have fun

[opal cove]

I think I saw combat bracalet being ass for Ironman

funny becasue I got combat bracalets for free on my main and was my BIS until I got the RFD gloves

74 Crafting and 64 magic to make combat bracalet

I should be training main at least afk at crab

this is the main 69 ranged

going to need to grind for ds2

mm2 or ds2 first?

for mm2 I just need the levels I finished the reuired quests

[sly tartan]

the one you have requirements for

eventually you want both

[opal cove]

neither

[sly tartan]

which one are you closest to doing

[sly tartan]

I mean mm2 is just stats

[opal cove]

at keast with mm2 I don't need dream mentor

[sly tartan]

the tree gnome route is 5 minutes

you'll eventually want to do it anyway

its a short-ish quest

unless lunars isnt complete

[opal cove]

I hate the ballon routes

[sly tartan]

I do too

but its a one time thing

[opal cove]

I thought it was not originally

I have not used any routs since lol

is it just me?

[sly tartan]

same lol

[opal cove]

the transportation methods I use by far the most are cannoe, fairy rings and gliders

[sly tartan]

but a few quests need routes

the wiki just tells you what to press

the worst part is taking your gear off

and going to entrana

[opal cove]

there is a plugin

[sly tartan]

is there? nice