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simple grail
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5.5 gp per xp for broad arrowheads

sly tartan
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I do want to try out afk souls/bloods after getting all the agi shortcuts

simple grail
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not including making shafts and feathers

sly tartan
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but I'm not leaving cg outside of hespori runs until bowfa and crystal armor, I'm having fun here

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speaking of CG, I tried coopers strat for phase 3 and it went smooth

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ate up to full, and just ran around the squares

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didnt focus on dps, just moving and staying alive

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now this is degen gaming imo

straight up knife log at sandstone behavior

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@simple grail idk if I did the math right, but broad bolts are only like 4m to 99 (from my level)

used calc, said I need ~65k broad bolts

( 6500 / 100 ) * 5500 = 3575000

5500 = shop price of pack

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wait thats just to get level 89 I'm a dummy

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2,795,284 broad bolts to 99 despairge

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thats 153m, who would pay that

ripe timber
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don’t use broad bolts

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broad arrows

sly tartan
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I dont plan on it

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cooper mentioned it

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so I was curious how much it costs

ripe timber
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cooper did not mention broad bolts

simple grail
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it's 5.5 gp per xp for arrows

sly tartan
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wait did I misread

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ah yea arrowheads

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if its the same gp/xp does it matter?

simple grail
simple grail
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it's not

sly tartan
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the restof the art is there

sly tartan
simple grail
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it's for arrows

sly tartan
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that was for arrows not bolts?

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ah got it

simple grail
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so 13m xp * 5.5 = 62m

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and it's less because u get xp from making shafts

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but approxmiately 60m from lvl 1

sly tartan
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I have 4.6m fletching xp

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so I need 8.4m xp to 99

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~46.2m

thats still crazy money for something that can be done for free fairly fast (in marat terms)

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also fletching is a fairly useless 99

balmy ridge
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the main benefit of broads is making it nearly 0 time with fletching during other stuff or just bankstanding otherwise u might as well vale totems with the logs from wc 99

analog star
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My last day of con with teak contracts was 222k/xp hour so osrs portal rates are really low.

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I never had a lot of spare gp. I afked kingdom maples for a lot of fletch levels and finished 99 with redwood totems on release in like 2 days.

balmy trail
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bro my defence is wild

hidden karma
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Monstrous

sly tartan
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with the crafting cape and banking free; I can prolly get more

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speaking of the crafting cape, its like a day and night difference between draken's medallian and the cape

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like drakens you have to walk a fair bit, maybe move the camera

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wait

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its like a under 10 tile difference

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but boom bank is pretty sick

leaden jolt
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We don't need the crafting cape, we have the Sailors' amulet

lucid knot
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deepfin go brrr

leaden jolt
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The charges are so incredibly cheap its practically free

sly tartan
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(its a joke)

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ik the amulet is good, I just already had 99 seaweed banked

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and wanted another 99

lucid knot
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1/10 law rune+1 water rune per tp

sly tartan
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the cape being really good is a benefit

sly tartan
lucid knot
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for a ~8 tile bank tp is so good

leaden jolt
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I find myself wearing it a lot in combo with my const cape since they can be worn at the same time

sly tartan
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where I'd use the quest cape

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but I realized karamja gloves have a really good deposit box

leaden jolt
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Except the teleport animation is slow

sly tartan
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its 1 tick

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I rather look at a new animation thats 1 tick slower

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vs. see the purple orb

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I wish more items got custom animations

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does the new sailing amulet have an animation, I dont have it

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lets see

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wiki doesnt have a gif sadge

leaden jolt
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It takes like 7 ticks from when you use the gem mine teleport until you can actually start moving

sly tartan
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oh didnt know that

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but does sailor's have a custom animation, or is it the generic purple ball

leaden jolt
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Standard purple ball

sly tartan
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first cg of the day before 5pm breakfast was a success

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I'm getting more confident safing to full in p3, and running around and focusing on just eating

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phase 1/2 I can camp low hp and dps during tornados pretty comfy

next swallow
tawny spear
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Yeah mistake, but I think I figured it out

sly tartan
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wow the salad blade's base stats are already better than the whip; so crystal armor makes it a beast

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is there a place where I can see how long in ticks does the grief floor take to go from good -> bad, and then for the bad to swap to a diff pattern

the wiki page only says that it gets faster in each phase

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because I know if the floor has been "activated" for a couple of seconds and I'm far away, I can click the bad floor knowing it will swap by the time I get there

leaden jolt
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Crystal only affects bowfa and crystal bow not saeldor

sly tartan
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o

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guess that would be a bit op

next swallow
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pretty sure salad blade has the exact same stats as tent whip, just doesn't degrade when corrupted

sly tartan
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man hcim get hosed

ontop of being forced to make t2/t3, they have to pay +200 shards for the escape crystal

leaden jolt
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No, if you have an escape crystal in your inventory when you enter CG it uses that one

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I watched recordings a long time ago about floor patterns and this is what I noted.

Phase 1: Warning floor 7 ticks Danger floor 14 ticks
Phase 2: Warning floor 5 ticks Danger floor 10 ticks
Phase 3: Warning floor 3 ticks Danger floor 6 ticks

sly tartan
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I walk 2 tiles per tick, 11 tiles from side to side

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if the floor was hot for a few ticks, I might be able to run to a corner and it will swap patterns as I get there

sly tartan
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those 10 seconds can be the difference between dying to a mistake or a KC

simple grail
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ranged TTK > mage TTK

sly tartan
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ohh dont compare ranged vs. mage

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the comparison is mage vs. mage and range vs. range

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just with my stats vs. 99

simple grail
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oh right yeah mage staff doesn't scale its max hit on level only accuracy

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so levels don't do too much for magic

sly tartan
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my last kingdom was November 5, and I have 9k teaks in the bank

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changed my workers to 10 hardwood (teak)

sly tartan
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is there any main content the escape crystal is useful for

simple grail
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ez scape

sly tartan
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I'm thinking people with horrible ping

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doing risky content

simple grail
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no

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unless you don't have a lvl 30 teleport for some reason

leaden jolt
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I guess if 75k is cheaper than death fees. But no not really

sly tartan
simple grail
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it's gonna grief you 99/100

sly tartan
simple grail
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whenever i watch HCIm youtube videos half the clips are that they accidentally teleport away because they were afk

sly tartan
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I remember so many Ring of Life teleports -> poison deaths

leaden jolt
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2 tasks, 3x rate, no plates

sly tartan
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back 20 years ago

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ima pick 1 month worth of teaks fuck it

leaden jolt
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In Leagues 5 I got a max cape and tried to last stand zebak in ToA. That's when I found out max cape has a toggleable ring of life effect

sly tartan
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I cant justify +40m to get +50k con xp/hr

simple grail
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and super easy to kill, never tried strykewyrms

simple grail
sly tartan
simple grail
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there's a caes for doing regular con because it's a different activity with way higher xp but mahogany vs teak homes is literally the exact same content just slightly more xp for way more money

sly tartan
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how much banked is that lets c

simple grail
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even if you could justify it, could you really justify it to MaratScape

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I doubt it

sly tartan
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I like mahagony homes

simple grail
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btw got my 2nd avarice amulet

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so now if I get smited I don't care

sly tartan
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o shit lets go

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did you get any

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poh crystals

simple grail
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nah

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8m totem and 2 avarice rn

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and tons of common loot

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include ur bones lmao

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also + outfit

sly tartan
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teak only is 96 (159k off 97)

simple grail
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you're gonna wanna buy it

leaden jolt
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And you’ll passively get the outfit which is an xp boost as well

sly tartan
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I already have it

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lmao

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forgot to check it

simple grail
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surely that's 99 then

sly tartan
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lets see

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outfit + mahagony = 99 banked (no bones)

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outfit + teak + bones = 97 banked

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9.4m to make the mahog logs -> planks (6272 * 1500)

13 to make teak logs -> planks (25905 * 500)

13+9.4 = 22.4m for 99 con

I can work with that, ima swap to 10 herb and 5 coal I guess

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actually 10 herb 5 hardwood for a wee bit more just to have planks for sailing (big boat costs a lot)

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guess CG will handle the GP for that

sly tartan
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I think I completed more CG runs today than deaths, progress

sly tartan
simple grail
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Close, the last 10% really are difficult

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I was watching YouTube and they were cutting the redwood in farming guild. Is there any reason to do that over woodcutting guild? Woodcutting guild gives invisible boost so I don't understand why you would cut there (they weren't 1.5 ticking)

sly tartan
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I cant watch because cg

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taking a break rn though

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sadly hunleff + yt is too much stimulation for me

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I zone out and forget a mechanic

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theres a guy on my world with over 1500kc

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no enh

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I hope rng blesses him so he can leave soon

hidden karma
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Just click tree and war for idle notifier

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You cut at farming guild for no other person who can cut yours

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And deposit box is close

sly tartan
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isnt the whole point of the redwoods to click once every 5m and chill

sly tartan
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so heres a question

if on a scale of 1-10 tier 1 armor CG is a 5

where would you guys place 150 toas with whatever settings are considered "comfy" (invos people use to spam the raid)

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in bowfa/crystal/moons gear

simple grail
sly tartan
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didnt expect it to be easier

simple grail
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I think so, especially if you remember what we talked about like after CG you're a way better player

sly tartan
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when I get out of red prison soon ™ I'll rely on you guys to teach me toa

sly tartan
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but I'm talking about mechanics, apm, shit you have to do

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etc

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like blue prison is an objectivly easier piece of content compared to red prison

simple grail
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P3 CG is harder than anything in TOA

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At 150

sly tartan
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no way

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even the last boss

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that slams lightning everywhere

simple grail
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Last boss is easy at 150

sly tartan
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and has the ghost of the aligator throw shit at you

simple grail
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You will never reach last row

sly tartan
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when i started OSRS, I saw a fang

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and knew its a must have

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just becase it looks cool

simple grail
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Here's the thing for TOA at 150, if you fail mechanics you don't instantly die

sly tartan
simple grail
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At CG you kinda do especially tornados

sly tartan
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if I'm at full hp I might survive

simple grail
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Yeah and that's if you only fail for 1 tick

sly tartan
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yea

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and can eat and do the mechanics

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fast

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eat, run, swap prayers

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I was able to recover 1 tick griefs a few times, but most of the time its a plank

simple grail
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In TOA u got the ambrosia which are so op especially at 150

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Maybe it's a hot take but yeah honestly I think that's what I think

sly tartan
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the infinite spec thingie?

simple grail
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Nah full overheal + prayer

sly tartan
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oh yea

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the oh shit button

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also is 150 considered the standard "normal" difficulty

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and then 300 "hard mode"

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(not by the game's definitions, but what players do)

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and then 500 elite player mode

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@simple grail is duo (assuming both players are geared the same and equally skilled) better or worse

simple grail
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I did all my KC at 300+ with boppers on stab and the black keris is way better it's awesome

sly tartan
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I see people use regular keris

simple grail
sly tartan
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until black/yellow

simple grail
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people don't know about boppers stab being really good

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which like fair enough why the hell are they so good on stab

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they have +121 crush and +115 stab lol

sly tartan
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cant bowfa the rest?

simple grail
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no, akkha is mandatory to use melee

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and ba-ba is way better to melee

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if you have full blood moon you sure absolutely use it

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  • wardens core you need to melee
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boppers is insane for warden core cuz of 3 tick

sly tartan
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ah

simple grail
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but tbh boppers are actually bad at akkha because they double hit :/

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akkha "cum" phase

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at least

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they are good before that though

sly tartan
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I swear I've watched toa steams (wow streamers)

and they only brought in regular keris + dds

simple grail
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nvm just calced it bowfa is way better than melee until you have fang

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that's crazy

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at 300 though, at 150 boppers is better

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150 with bone dagger spec hitting 20

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wiki also gave really favourable gear for bowfa with basically max

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quiver, anguish, rigour

sly tartan
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and after they got the gems, they'd bring in both black and yellow keris

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and then fang

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also instead of blood moon, they'd bring blue moon

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since it works as hybrid magic and melee gear

simple grail
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i mean sure but you mage one thing in the entire raid nowadays

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well 2 but monkey room is negligible

sly tartan
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warped sceptre with thralls

simple grail
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you only mage wardens p2

sly tartan
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(or best charged staff, but thats what they had)

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basically iban's blast (slightly better at 99), but in a charged staff

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so you can use thralls

simple grail
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it's probably way better because of salts

sly tartan
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well the goal is to use thralls, and none of those players had slayer for the other charged sceptres

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ofc any other charged magic weapon is better, but those need high slayer

simple grail
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yeah magic gear specifically is locked behind absurd slayer reqs

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but that's the ironman choice

sly tartan
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ye

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after bowfa slayer should be chill

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I can do TDs

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td = 1k xp

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also demon bane stuff

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1 synapse and you shred the TDs

simple grail
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if u put money on soul runes, you can shred it already with arclight + demonbane spells

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it's so freaking awesome I love it

sly tartan
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I saw people do arclight + bowfa, and then arclight + scorching bow (rune arrows)

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with whatever slow weapon they have to punish, I have a d2h

simple grail
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it's rich mans stuff that's why they don't do it

sly tartan
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I bet

simple grail
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but if u do it after cg it's fine

sly tartan
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even though afk bloods (and later souls) is something I might try after I get the agility

sly tartan
simple grail
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btw we talkeda bout fletching and amethyst is definitely gonna help as well

sly tartan
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oh yea

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honestly I dont see the value in paying what was it 30m

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for a useless 99

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maybe at the very end game when you want to max

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and have 500 billion gold and dont care

exotic knot
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i like making money with my skilling

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even if its less efficient

sly tartan
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I like afking my magics

simple grail
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how u gonna make money with fletching

sly tartan
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and then making longbows (s)

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and alching them

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feels like I'm playing the game

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chopping magics is decent afk, and the fletching part isnt bad at all

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I guess we all need what is it 95 fletching for d arrows

exotic knot
simple grail
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but yeah getting 99 fletching is for max cape not because fletching is a good skill

sly tartan
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if I wasnt tired I would've yoinked it

exotic knot
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camila has good emotes at least

hidden karma
untold cypress
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Remembered I can do macros on my Corsair mouse so ardy knights are a lot more afk now.

next swallow
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what are you macroing, that sounds rule-breaking SusChamp

untold cypress
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Basically just hold click down to keep clicking. Can’t exit the window for anything, but makes concentrating on the video I’m watching easier

sly tartan
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just buy a 20$ foot pedal, and tap it

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you can watch all the movies you want without looking at the game

teal adder
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or use mouse keys and press 5 on numpad - thats my preferred

lucid knot
next swallow
untold cypress
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Meh just regular clicking then

lucid knot
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holding down a key/button to produce repeated actions isnt allowed in any way

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you can use mousekeys like coolledge suggested

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can just brain off tap numpad to produce clicks

teal adder
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its softer on the fingers than mouse click

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plus ti doesnt move the mouse

hybrid bough
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Hey anyone know the rewards for the anniversary list?

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The inverted skill cape makes me wanna get 99 necromancy

leaden jolt
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This discord is really just for OSRS not RS3

simple grail
hidden karma
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red x is still brain off and uses less supplies

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and is not much slower than normal while chugging prayer potions

simple grail
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he's talking about invo 150 though

hidden karma
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he aint got stabby

simple grail
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fair enough at very high but 150s I really wouldn't bother

hidden karma
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i did it 180s to 400s solos xd

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still will red x no matter what

simple grail
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but one thing that's awesome is if you skip boulders you could probably phase him to next phase with bowfa without him aggroing

hidden karma
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its one of the few "fun" thinhs in that raid

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yeah thats nice too

simple grail
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i do like butterfly though especially now that you can bowfa it

hidden karma
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I still do 5tick butterfly with Bowfa

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Idk if I wanna relearn it

simple grail
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never learned 5tick so I went straight to 4tick

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im so small brain though I sometimes mess it up because I can't visualize counterclockwise or clockwise very much

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I would like the tiles to have an arrow spinning in what direction instead of just saying clockwise

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but I couldn't put emojis on the tilemarker

hidden karma
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5 tick doesn’t matter what way you go 🙂

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Just click next

simple grail
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yeah that's the nice thing about it

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but like why can't I put this as the label text on a tile?

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is it using 8 bit for the label text to like save disk space?

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so it doesn't support whatever emojis are like utf-8 or something

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cuz I can't write åäö either so I assume so

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oh boy time to make tile indicators Improved with ChatGPT (the future) that allows for all the wacky characters you'd like!

opal cove
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how is my gear

leaden jolt
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Time to get a fire cape

opal cove
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what stats are recomended?

teal adder
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Depends on your prayer switch and minions micro management confidence. Definitely doable at that level but if youre not used to the jad fight it could go badly at the end of the 30-60 mins

opal cove
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fuck the pipe was cheaper on launch

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rosewood

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I will wait looks like price is crashing

opal cove
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I would use guilded alter

teal adder
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Its more your range level. Like 70-80 would be more comfortable

opal cove
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so I will say 65 min

rare owl
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70 min for good ranged armor

simple grail
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yeah get black dhide

untold cypress
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All of a sudden the bots pickpocket elves are world hopping away whenever they see I’m here

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Last week or two whenever I come to do this it’d be like three of them going into choice paralysis whenever I open the door to the house.

sly tartan
teal adder
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haha okay, i couldnt do it, i like to be as horizontal as much as possible 😄

sly tartan
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darasplasher to 95, and then "secret 95+ discord" until 99

untold cypress
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I did them to 90, then went back to elves for a bit. Got my third hit of teleport crystals at 3000 pickpockets and decided to do something else while those sold

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The splasher at ardy knights while I was doing them seemed to be having a scripted conversation about how he got banned because other splashers were jealous of his tips and reported him.

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I feel like it was scripted anyway. I was there for a couple hours and asked how much he usually took in tips and got no response as he kept on to this one guy about how he got banned and all.

sly tartan
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I foot pedaled so

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knights wwas great

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got 55-99 in ~9-10 days (irl)

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had an over 1m xp/day quota

old shore
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I wouldn’t do the foot pedal today

hidden karma
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Did it for the last month.

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It’s fine and will continue to be fine

simple grail
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im gonna train thieving with pyramid plunder until I get another sceptre probably and then maybe vyres for blood shards, but will wait until they release morytania grandmaster quest

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maybe they add a nice way of getting blood shards

burnt bloom
hidden karma
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I don’t think it missed it

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It just actually only impacts you for a brief window

simple grail
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you take dmg if you're standing in his vision when the eye disappears

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Freezing Gaze - Every fifth standard attack, he will open the eye within his body, indicated by the game message Duke Sucellus turns his gaze upon you... If the player is not standing directly behind a pillar 5 ticks (3 seconds) after the attack is initiated, the player will take up to 101 damage. This is almost assured to kill the player, so avoiding it is essential. This attack takes 6 ticks in total.

burnt bloom
simple grail
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that's how it works

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just count the ticks/seconds

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turn on game messages and you can see when the mechanic is over

sly tartan
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as long as left clicking isnt against the rules, a foot pedal is fine

analog star
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[[2025 Christmas event]] is being removed in 7 hours. Last chance to do it.

steel thornBOT
sly tartan
sly tartan
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Why do crystal shards have an alch value, is it based on an item you can make with them? The wiki doesnt mention anything, just the GE value being tied to divines

https://i.imgur.com/60sMoPU.png

fallow pecan
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All items have an alch value even if you can't alch it

sly tartan
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while the plugin says 6k

fallow pecan
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high alch value is always 60% of the 'value' that the wiki has, which you can confirm by looking at other items that you can alch

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there may be some weird exceptions (usually related to protection values when dropped on death) but it's a good general rule

sly tartan
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not HA

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ok mystery solved ty

opal cove
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Was a Brimstone ring worth getting?

stray rapids
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No

opal cove
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my guardian boots are worth more now than when I bought it

simple grail
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because you can imbue it

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and it gives +8 strength instead of +4

stray rapids
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I can't believe the brimstone ring is more expensive than the berserker

simple grail
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lots of nartin9s buying them

opal cove
opal cove
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all 3 have the same drop rate

stray rapids
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Yeah but it kinda sucks

opal cove
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The ring also has a passive effect when worn that improves its effectiveness to rival the seers ring (i) when using Magic. Each time the player attacks using a spell or magical attack (powered staves included), there is a 25% chance that the target's defensive roll will be reduced by 10% for that attack.[1] When this occurs, there will be a game chat message Your attack ignored 10% of your opponent's magic defence. Note the reduction doesn't affect multiple targets when barraging or hitting multiple opponents. The effect is limited to the single intended target you select.

stray rapids
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Wow I've literally never heard of that

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I guess if you're using magic then it's decent, but otherwise just use berserker

opal cove
stray rapids
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And ranged has no good rings except for the one from DT2

opal cove
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archers ring is cool

opal cove
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Ring of shadows

stray rapids
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Yeah ring of shadows is just a better brimstone ring iirc

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But then the ones from the bosses are bis

simple grail
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those rings kinda trash lightbearer is almost always better

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well mage and ranged ones

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aint nobodoy using a seerss or archers ring

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damn lightbearer has gone up quite a lot now after the changes

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it was like 2m before

simple grail
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rings shouldn't really be the top priority, just get a berserker ring and you're chilling with rings

opal cove
simple grail
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range and mage rings kinda suck until late game

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do you have any kind of goals rn to grind?

opal cove
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I also got a Zamorakian spear and a Dragen Scimy

simple grail
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pls make it into a hasta :D

opal cove
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O I mean hasta

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I got the spear and made it the hasta

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eventually it will be a dragon lance

simple grail
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nice

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one of my favourite weapons tbh it's really cool

opal cove
simple grail
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yeah atlatl

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works great with bers

opal cove
royal ibex
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You can buy untrimmed capes with multiple 99s now?

leaden jolt
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It was a bug since some skillcapes didn’t check for sailing as a 99

fallow pecan
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The implication is that 'hotfixing' this would allow players to buy those untrimmed capes again

analog star
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I bought a bunch of banana baskets last night on iron and was going to afk 98-99 hunter. Just my luck they broke it lmao.

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analog star
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There is no monke left after 3 mins. Guess I'm training another skill this week.

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They were all frozen against the wall till I ran up to them haha. I wonder if we all got on the same world and spread out we could keep them active.

leaden jolt
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I kinda want monkey tail but I don't know if I want to do more demonics or do post-max hunter

hidden karma
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my main did all of the xp for hunter from 90 to 99 at demonics and didnt get any of the uniques they could've given

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too many limbs 😢

next swallow
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yall think I should start doing herb runs again

untold cypress
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Kind of glad I used my first basilisk jaw for myself. On a basilisk task atm and looked at the drops again and its gone up like 4 mil since I got mine.

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Most of the way through this 200 kill task and no second one yet.

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next swallow
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do your contracts

hidden karma
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that doesnt really hel pthatm uch

next swallow
hidden karma
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i have 1/10th of that

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its just not a fun chore

opal cove
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I died to obor. I did not expect picking up his bowns would give me a dialog option

sly tartan
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mains can just buy rings on the GE for pennies

sly tartan
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with a full invy of baskets of banans

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not the fastest method, but low effort

analog star
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It's broken now and you cannot peddle it you have to drop the tails and empty baskets. Still low intensity though.

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Doing rooftop agility. I'll have to finish 99 hunter next week.

sly tartan
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intentional nerf or

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a byproduct of something else

sly tartan
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ah

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cg finally clicked for me the other day

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I get more KC than deaths

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still need to get the perfect hunleff CA

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but wrong weapon griefs me

sly tartan
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silly question:

if you "red-x" hunleff; like put a vial under him and click it

will he still stomp you?

leaden jolt
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Pretty sure the answer is yes

sly tartan
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btw what causes hunleff to move

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I tried hugging his tile, he doesnt move

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I know like jad if he recently shot you, he wont stomp you

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so is it walking under him after he attacks?

stray rapids
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Walking under, or if he is against the far wall and you are against the opposite far wall

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Which can really only happen when you first enter

sly tartan
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so if his attack speed is 5 ticks, I have well under 5 ticks to step under and hope he walks backwards (or whatever direction)

stray rapids
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Yeah something like that. I am absolutely terrible at getting him to move by walking under so I just don't

sly tartan
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yea I dont either, but in p3 there are a few times where my man's booty griefs me

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and moving him 1 tile would solve all my problems

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tbh if I'm having this muchf un at CG, I wonder how much fun the rest of OSRS pvm is

sly tartan
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Imagine 131k people in that room

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Lag free together

sly tartan
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the ghosts are a ton of fun

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but in some places I'd rather they be off

untold cypress
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Got a gargoyle task and killed GG for the first time on main...Probably not gonna do that for the next 180 kills though. Got a nice wad of combat achievements though.

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Was certainly different than killing them back in leagues 5

next swallow
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I hear it's chill with nox hally

untold cypress
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Still remember how they accidentally made echo guardians easier by echo dusk no longer being immune to ranged damage, so he died so fast his new mechanics didn't matter.

untold cypress
simple grail
sly tartan
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how chill is zulrah bowfa camp

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I only did 2 zulrah kc with cooper's help (1 for diary, one for poh pool)

the first KC was super undergeared, and was scuffed

second kc in blue moon and twinflame was a bit better, but I basically did no damage during the blue phase

simple grail
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camping? bowfa is probably better but swapping between bowfa and twinflame is the play

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camping bowfa allows for cure me though

next swallow
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bowfa camping comfy

sly tartan
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just shoot the snek

next swallow
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all my kills were with bowfa only

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but I did have antivenoms

sly tartan
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I can make them if I pie boost

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the +4 guaranteed pie

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or maybe I need 1 more herb level, idr; 1 level isnt that long at good ole mixology

simple grail
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if you don't have a need for rushing zulrah, get noxious halberd and then kill snake

coarse sonnet
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Hola

fringe peakBOT
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untold cypress
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Really wish there was a setting for clues to just not go to the damn wilderness. I like doing clues, but I thinking of just throwing them away in the future if they send me there. Douchebag really wanted the black d'hide and rune hasta I wore up there as throwaway gear. Full pvp treatment of freezing me in place and envenoming me and speccing me to death.

sly tartan
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hard clues you dont need anything thats not a dds

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I bring my clue, dds, and spade

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elite+ idk

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the only downside is having to deposit everything

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and re-equip it next step, but with my inventory loadout its not that bad

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if you're a main blowpipe is better iirc

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medium and under dont have wildy steps

untold cypress
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Like I said, it was just throwaway gear. Just A weapon to kill with and the black d'hide in case its a saradomin wizard so I can just pray melee and they usually just splash on me.

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I usually stop between slayer tasks to knock out the scrolls I got from them

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So its pretty much always hard ones

sly tartan
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I've been getting KC with the halberd (halberd/staff or halberd/bow; whatever comes first)

the halberd hits like a truck, not as strong as the staff but way better than the bow

I'm just not used to the movement, and getting dragged into fire and stuff; but all thats a skill issue that will get worked out

the goal is to be able to grab 2 demis, and send it with whatever weapons they give me

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the gap between the staff and the other 2 is pretty nuts, but thats all thanks to the 40 max hit regardless of stats omegaKek

balmy ridge
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sending first 2 demis u get feels so much better than forcing staff bow

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u get 42 maxhit on halberd with 99 str as well

simple grail
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i forced melee mage my ranged level was 75 when i did cg grind lmao

untold cypress
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Is there a difference in xp or points doing a general task vs a boss task that general one would have applied to? Just got a grotesque guardians task. Wonder if I should just do the minimum amount and move on.

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Regular gargoyle task last night was a good bit of money and xp

leaden jolt
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Nope

untold cypress
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Feels weird for them to be a boss task option then. Feel like I'd only mess with them on a regular gargoyle task anyway.

untold cypress
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Gotten like 3 fossil island wyvern tasks today

leaden jolt
untold cypress
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I don't have 500 points, and they aren't quite annoying enough to spend that I feel like.

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Like...I don't like them, but there's worse tasks

proven jay
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anybody here pk? trying to work out how this shits enjoyable where every player i find in my combat bracket just anti-pks and i'm just looking for rev bots

jovial plinth
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this is a fair trade right

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Yes

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I’ve given bonds for less

sly tartan
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idk why peopel call CG red prison, its just a boss you have to kill 1000 times like pretty mcuh everything else in OSRS; something I signed up for when i made an ironman

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I guess for a lot of players if they rush SOTE and dont really do anything, its the first time they have to commit to something long?

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oh wow for GGs

Once you've unlocked the gate to the roof, you no longer need a brittle key and can no longer obtain them.

thats awesome, this whole time I thought they where like obor/briafungus where you always need a key

hidden karma
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Prison

sly tartan
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I've been through sand prison (2 sceptres, took almost 2 weeks fo doing nothing but that)

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did 3 weeks of doing nothing but 1 item flinching chaos ele

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maybe its all the tylenol, but I dont mind doing the same thing over and over

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but I can see how you pretty much "need" the bowfa to do PVM comfy, but you dont "need" an occult alter or dragon pickaxe

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or lots of other grinds I've done

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so some people probably feel like its a chore to be there longer than they need to

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lucky for me I never did any other PVM on osrs, so this is the most fun content I've done so far

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my only complaint is I cant watch yt and do hunleff

sly tartan
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I guess the difference between red prison and "zulrah prison" is you can live w/o the blow pipe

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even though its like close to mandatory in a lot of content, and super nice to have

leaden jolt
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Blowpipe is not close to mandatory in any content really

sly tartan
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no

sly tartan
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I know people do RCB inferno, but we're talking about the average person

hidden karma
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you can just out skill the requirement of a bp

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still the same case

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there is a lot of times to get free heals at inferno

sly tartan
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I mean you can out skill the bowfa and do zuk with diamond bolts, but thats stretching it

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but if ya'll say the blowpipe is nowhere near as a crazy item as I thoght it is

leaden jolt
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Blood barrage gives you a lot more healing in inferno than blowpipe is

sly tartan
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oh thats going to be one of the first weapons I get after bowfa

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duke until teleport

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and muspah for the good ancient staff

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(I like how it looks)

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gonna be a mix of pvm and construction

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whats a list of good content to do after crystal/bowfa for big upgrades

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all I had in mind is like zulrah

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and starting TOA

leaden jolt
sly tartan
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forwarded to my notes channel

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grind shades until bloodbark thats something I'd love to do, I just need the paper and can get the other helm/chest/pants from wildy bosses

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go to Bandos:
BGS top priority
BCP, tassets very nice to have

really?

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I agree with everything, but thought I'd do TDs until synapse; start sending yama

leaden jolt
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Yea, BGS very good at ToA and other places. Bandos armour not as important due to oathplate

sly tartan
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and if I'm doing slayer, just prayge for DWH

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idk what the math comes out to but

leaden jolt
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You used to go to bandos for everything. Now you just do bandos for BGS and if you get armour its a bonus but dont stay for armour

sly tartan
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getting what is it 4 differnet 1/700 GWD items must be rarer than a 1/5000 (I think) item from a "trash mob"

sly tartan
leaden jolt
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On a boss task yea

sly tartan
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might just do that then, and what is BCP; bandos chest plate?

leaden jolt
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But you can also get shards from minions at 1/1500 which you're doing 3 per kill

sly tartan
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1k general garagedoor is a lot, but still; thought it would be way more

leaden jolt
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If my python I think its this? Idk could be wrong

sly tartan
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but remembered each boss has 3 goons

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still a lot lower than expected

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what about the other bosses? worth grinding

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I know sgs is amazing, but idk how good it is in 2026 outisde of collo

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I also plan on doing jad pets and feeding capes for the pet

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rate wise its a common pet, and prolly bowfa on task is fast

leaden jolt
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BGS probably the most important. ZGS really only for CoX mutadile. SGS has some uses like colo or dks

sly tartan
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well not just godswords, but items

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sarasword is like shit people used to train strength with 5000 years ago + clanker gear

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staff of the dead is pvp stuff I think

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its nice to see that bloodbark is gud though, I did the math a month ago and went "wait this is ahrims/blue moon that doesnt degrade"

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I guess you need to use the arma cbow to upgrade to the zaryte cbow; but thats like later later stuff

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cant really think of anything I'd want from GWD outside of the BGS

leaden jolt
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Hasta

sly tartan
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ohh yea!

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thats a big one!

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I heard zammy is a meme boss now with scobo

leaden jolt
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You need scobo + lb to only freeze. Still best to learn door altar

sly tartan
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lb?

leaden jolt
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lightbearer

sly tartan
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ah

sly tartan
sick pelican
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1 tick off from the start, otherwise same. Need to delay on one of those, but I forget which

sly tartan
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idk how fun GWD is, but I feel like doing it on task little by little is the play

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that way I dont get burnt doing "meh" content

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well osrs gwd, I've done it on EOC with pak yaks and shit

leaden jolt
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Zammy you wait 1 tick after spawn, bandos is right after spawn

untold cypress
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Figured I'd try to get a kill on KQ for the desert hard diary since I got a kalphite task, and damn does she have a high chance of hitting whatever I'm not praying for. Keep getting melted before I make a real dent in the first health bar.

sly tartan
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do the flinch strat

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I did it for my diary

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let me find the video cooper sent

untold cypress
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The one where you line her and the two guardians up and stand under her and just pop out with verac's flail?

sly tartan
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tiles in pinned comment

sly tartan
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her prot prayer isnt full protection

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its partial

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I just hit her with a dmace both phases

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I forgot my thralls, so it took a bit longer

sly tartan
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do people even use holy sandals for anything? its basically worse god dhide?

we got holey moleys instead of avernic moles kekwsit

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sly tartan
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guess I gotta start doing my begginers

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kinda sad its not avernics, since you'd use them in the end game

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but the holey moleys look cute

hidden karma
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wym you get avernics end game

sly tartan
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casual zom meme

hidden karma
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i got mine on my ironman already and i haven't gotten any raids kc really

sly tartan
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isnt doom an end game boss?

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because synapes + void = you get avernic boots

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yesnt

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i had 0 kc of the har stuff

sly tartan
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yea ik the gear barrier is very low

hidden karma
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i did 0 8 wave+ clears

sly tartan
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scobo and void

hidden karma
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and i green logged it

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every drop was wave 5

sly tartan
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which is probably easier than cg

sly tartan
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or did they fix it

hidden karma
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i dont think its broken

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the dry copers

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wanna cope

sly tartan
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like you get more uniques doing 1-7 or 1-8 and reset vs. deep delves

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in a way it kinda makes sense, the low floors are prolly ez, so fast clears

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and you only do 3-4 "hard floors"

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more rolls on slot machine = higher chance of getting item

hidden karma
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once you have enough gear

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wave 8+ repeating for 6 hours is just more about your own personal endurance

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but for gear wise i was a rune arrow scobo guy for wave 1-7 resets

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and i got rewarded for it

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the truth is that it probably would be proper end game if they wanted it to be

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like yama was posed as end game but isnt

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they know how to make hard content they just didn't make delve start out at a 8 they made it a 0

sly tartan
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just finished reading the new blog, everything is a W

hidden karma
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and loot drops while it's still easy

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i think the slayer hood is a massive L

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them catering to every player designed thing is lazy

sly tartan
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the icon slayer helmet is meant to be spiky helmet + recolor

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wheres the anti wall beast in that hood

sly tartan
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well knights back in the day wore clothes ontop of their plate

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just because theirs a piece of cloth on it

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doesnt mean the armor is magically gone

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I bet most people dont even know what wall beasts are nowadays which is kinda funny

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quests skip super low level masters, and idk if anybody except the first 2 can assign wall beasts

sly tartan
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I feel like some people want to be mains with an icon next to their name

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sly tartan
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idk anything about yama's difficulty, but Nuc messaged me one day to duo yama

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but I told him I have no synapse staff

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he said when I get that, we can duo in rags and its fairly simple

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and drops pretty much the best melee gear, skipping the bandos/nex grind

untold cypress
sly tartan
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@hidden karma back to my 1-10 scale, with tier 1 armor CG being a 5

where would you put 1-7 doom relative to well T1 CG, and then t8 (scobo + void + rune arrows)

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I guess I'd grind the zenny necklace too before doing him

hidden karma
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i dont know

sly tartan
hidden karma
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they're very different encounters

sly tartan
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fair enough

hidden karma
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running in a room minding where your feet are at from tiles + nados + switch prayers vs larva + prayer switch + safety pillar thing

sly tartan
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I asked the same question with 150 toas (bowfa/crystal) and got told thats a 4 or less (relative to t1 cg being a 5)

hidden karma
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they're just mechanically differnet

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toa is maybe a 2

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with a bowfa.

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tbh

sly tartan
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150 toa

hidden karma
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yes

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150 toa is genuinly rune scim material

sly tartan
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LMAO

hidden karma
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but im good at toa and that's where i learned pvm

sly tartan
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out of all the raid vids I watched, toa and tob look fun a.f

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with cox being an rng puzzel fest

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I dont want to solve some sort of colored crab puzzle

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or reset 500 times to get a good seed

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Would people complain if they made CoX like TOA, where you could "pick your invos"

like be able to put the letters you want in, and just send it

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and the harder you make it, the more loot you get

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so you dont have to keep resetting

hidden karma
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toa and tob are nice because they're the same raid every time

hidden karma
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cox has the refresh for a loadout thing

sly tartan
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or atleast add a favorites menu to cox

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you can keep loading

hidden karma
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cox's prayers are maybe the most impactful thing in the game

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obviously tbow

hidden karma
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but prayers are not terribly rare

sly tartan
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idk if its the wow streamers, but there are a fair bit of mains at CG now

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there must be better gp/h strats with the same difficulty level/stat requirements as CG

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and more consistant to buy a bowfa

leaden jolt
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CG requires no gear, requires no supply cost, pet hunters, cloggers, bots

old shore
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bossing is optional in RuneScape

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all you need is full rune to max

sly tartan
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cg recolor on random is trippy

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I'm uninstalling it though, a bit too distracting

sly tartan
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also mains should have no issues with supplies, worst case scenerio boss pays for them

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they dont need the level to make them (except divines)

the GE price isnt crazy high I think

sly tartan
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and how is ballsack mace is a good crush weapon

simple grail
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infamous for having the worst common loot in the game, losing money on supplies if you don't get unique

sly tartan
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right but you dont do that if you want money

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you do something like the money dragon or w/e huge gp/h is

simple grail
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CG

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it has very good common loot and a big ticket item

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CG is more money/h than vorkath on average

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and that's with dragon hunter lance

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if you don't have much money CG is just that much better

untold cypress
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Took a few tries because KQ was right at the door pelting me to death off the bat and I couldn't stack them.

sly tartan
sly tartan
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vorkath even with rcb you can never fail

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and if you're a main and can invest in a dh cb, you're going to clap him

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and mains can just sell the dh cb back

simple grail
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But just apply the logic u apply to yourself. As a main, if you can do CG you become better at the game. Doing vorkath doesn't make you better

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I can understand mains doing it

sly tartan
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I dont disagree, I just feel there might be something better to grind out 100m at and get better

hidden karma
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its just gp/hr

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you can go safe and steady and do vorkath

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or you can get big drops that make the average gp/hr happen and try to get lucky

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like cg or w/e

sly tartan
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vorkath wont make you gud though

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CG tought me a ton of osrs basics other bosses didnt teach me

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and DT2 bosses had their damage turned down so low, I was able to make 500 mistakes and eat

hidden karma
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toa is where i learnt that stuff

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i did 0 cg on main just toa did other pvm stuff

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then made iron

sly tartan
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I waited for a friend to go to toa together for the first time

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but hes on break now

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because 99 rc burnt him

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well he didnt get 99, he was working on 99

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maybe by the time he's motivated to play agin, I'll be done with CG

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he's a main and he can just buy a bowfa

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and we can do real duo stuff together

upper lion
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Wow attacked a pker at the castle and all these logged in at the exact same time and air surged me simultaneously. I probably should have gotten some names..

sly tartan
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flinching the chaos ele

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and seem some funky stuff

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like 100 people logging in and fighting people off

upper lion
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I've definitely played "scooby doo stairs" with some bots and had some clans PK me but this was definitely the wildest thing I've seen yet

sly tartan
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pretty nice of runelite to help teaching you to count to 5 while playing the game

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(jk)

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just found the big ass circles funny

upper lion
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hahh I do a lot of colosseum farming it helps me with the spawn movement and offtick flicking

sly tartan
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leveling ranged in CG almost killed me, the level up dialog box stopped my action

hallow apex
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can someeone help

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why is this showing

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how to empty hand

next swallow
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unequip anything in your hands?

hallow apex
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there is ntg in hand

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oh got it

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it was due to shield

next swallow
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yes you hold a shield with your hand thinkderp

hallow apex
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how dumb of me haha

proven jay
upper lion
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See the funny thing is this dude was a pker. He jumped me and after I shot him back maybe twice BOOM they all logged in

next swallow
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Pkers are pathetic, especially those multi clans

simple grail
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Wdym the pkers fighting pvmers are very good players

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They might even get 200k loot

proven jay
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i'm struggling to learn to pk, just can't get used to the f keys and keep messing up between pray/mage

hallow apex
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hi buddy can someone guide me

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while doing the waterfall quest

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it says like this

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i followed everything even read wiki

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idk what is going wrong

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i placed 3 ruines and pebble after that

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it said water earth air

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oh i needd to drop armor ig

hallow apex
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oh hell i figured

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i only needed 3 ruines i was carrying more

simple grail
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A rare sight seeing not using quest helper

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Very nice

mossy kite
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hey, is there a setting/plug in that allows us to see when a player is an ironman?

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i mean, without needing the player to type anything in chat

hidden karma
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no

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you can check their hiscores

simple grail
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surely jagex implements this soon

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this has been a thing in rs3 for years

mossy kite
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fair, thanks for the info

lethal tangle
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wiki says dhcb and masori is better for cox than bowfa+ crystal, thoughts?

hidden karma
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wiki's gear guides are a tad bit silly but if they're backed by calcs then why ask

upper lion
#

So for yall that PK why does everyone tend to blow people up at spindel but leave people alone at artio? I've gotten like 30+ artio kills in one session and the only people that interrupted me just didn't have enough kills to peek and said "my bad"

Two kills on spindle and I get jumped

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Is it because they know anyone killing artio is carrying freezes?

leaden jolt
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I experienced the same thing. I’ve never had a PKer at artio in my 300+ kills. I would imagine everyone having freezes is a good reason. You’re also really close to ferox as an escape

upper lion
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Actually yknow the answer might be more simple: artio can potentially kill them in the blink of an eye if they join at the wrong time in the wrong place and eat a magic + melee

upper lion
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I'm just gonna buy the damn hilt..

high sparrow
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Perhaps the spider has some bots that are easy to kill, given that you can root someone and make the spider web them

sly tartan
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so I have a mechanics question:

I noticed if I click on hunleff to attack while running:
my character will "snap" to my true tile, and then I will spend a tick or two on that tile to do the attack animation

tl;dr how many ticks do I spend standing there attacking with the CG weapons, and how far many tiles back should the nados be for me to be 100% safe

hidden karma
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Ticks are queues really if you’re 300ms into a tick and click to attack you won’t attack until that tick ends and the next starts

sly tartan
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so assuming I didnt eat recently or attack

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I'll only spend 1 tick on a tile when I click attack

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the shot will come out the start of next tick

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so I need atleast 2 tiles between me and nados then

sick pelican
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Pretty much unless ur dragged (hence woox walking)

simple grail
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if you press to attack, but want to cancel it, you can by just clicking to move

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if you're character already is in attack animation when you click, then you will move the next tick

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there's no pdelay on attacking, as there is in for example climbing ladders and so on

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you can move whilst attacking if you're not in range, and clicking to attack moves you into range (for exaple using halberd from 3 tiles away)

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so yeah as zom writes

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but some people have this weird misunderstanding of that attacking "holds" you in place

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my friend sometimes complains that when he is attacking yama with demonbane spells his character is stuck, idk why he thinks that

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ty

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it's safe to attack the boss if ALL nados are at least 2 ticks away from you, that is 2 tiles

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it could be easier to look at it from the opposite way

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it's NOT safe to attack if ANY nados are right next to you

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sketch of doom

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even number of spaces

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I'm at 67kc, and theres still a ton of time left in the day

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but I'm on break rn, made glizzies and catching up on shows

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surely jagex will make buckets of sand useful someday post-99 crafting

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a year of daily san dfrom the elite diary

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is like a hour of mining sand

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nah it's like 3-4 hours of efficient mining

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iirc you get like 8k buckets / h if efficient right?

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I dont remember

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I cleansed myself of all sand related memories

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after 99 crafting

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so you get like 5 hours worth of sand assuming 3-ticking

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I wore

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i remember i used to go claim daily but then I did calcs and like wow this is not worth

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the elite mining gloves

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so I could mine 2 rocks with no downtime

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imma keep on never tick manip

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what am I misunderstanding here? I can still drag items in my tag tab

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there should be somewhere to input a time

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but I want it to do what it says here

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I don't want to be able to drag in tag tabs

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wait thats tag tab not inventory

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am I just reading it wrong?

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idk

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I feel like it's supposed to disable dragging in bank tag tabs

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no idea, never used that setting

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I like dragging around my bank

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to make stuff nice

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zig zag presets are for the unhinged

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yessir

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zig zag is the way to go

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the "it's faster" remark is not true

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I have inventory no drag on a smol timer so I dont accidently drag something, but can still drag the thing if I intentionally want to move it

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you have to click the same amount of times ++ it makes looking at what a loadout is in the bank at a glance require thinking

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looking at a zigzag loadout is looking at a bunch of nothing

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zigzag being faster is cope for people who have never once ever played a video game that wasn't osrs

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cause they've never moved their mouse before lol

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honestly even if it was twice as fast

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I rather looka t something nice

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I still have to organize my "real bank"

I organized the top 20%, but after that I started to fumble not being able to deciede what goes where

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anytime I play minecraft or terraria or any game that requires inventory management the first thing I do is slap on a storage mod that just makes you be able to put every single item into one big thing

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and never have to think about it

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that's a good video game right there

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like just look at these beauties

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aren't they just perfect

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I'm not a big fan of mods that impact gameplay in 1p games

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1p?

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single player

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non mmo

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its like people who mod 6 party members in ballsack gate 3

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playing the game wrong

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yeah like dark souls ruins the experience if you mod but I've played probably more minecraft than runescape so some variety is nice

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i had this minecraft mod that you can ask the computer in the mod to make your X item

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and it would pull from blue prints to build all the way from step a to z

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even if it was soemthing with like 140 steps lol

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applied energistics 2?

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you would store items in the computer's ram lol

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i have no clue what it was

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my friend put it on some server he hosted

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we had redwoods trees the size of like mount everest

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yeah that mod is really popular in "tech" modpacks

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and i set them on fire

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like factorio but in minecraft

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and the server never turned on again

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classic minecraft modding

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xd

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(we were done playing anyways)

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sailing released like a month ago they still haven't fixed this

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smh

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damn almost 2 months actually

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im still 1 sailing

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im a pure

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I did the quests and stopped

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hoping tears of guthix gets me to the level for the nexy sailing quest

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i should do quests before i go back to bwana

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the quests are a good read

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I dont dislike sailing, its just the current content doesnt do anything to progress my character

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so its on hold while I do other stuff, like cg

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got my first 99 slayer proc

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totally worth it

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gz

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I almost got perfect hunleff

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but took 1 bad floor

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how do you get the 7.5m CA?

send no armor or tier 2 weapons?

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t2 weapons would be a slow ass kill though

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watch what they do on youtube for it

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its good rng + good stats

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7.5m is pretty easy

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well of course it is but you can get consistent 7.5m

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you need to become better at prep

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i mean its not rng but it is

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and not lose ticks during hunleff

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I ran the dps calc after, and it turns out its 50% less dps

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some giga gamers get consistente 6.5m

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t2 vs t3

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my pb is 10:13, but tbh I dont rush gathering phase knowing I have all the time in the world with tier1 armor

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yeah for the speed tasks you need to get like 3-4 minute prep

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btw I wanted to share, if its against the server rules delete it

the yt algorithm randomly suggested this streamer, and I tune in every other day for 5 minutes

my man is on attempt 11 for his fire cape, he right clicks everything, its kind of fun to see the type of players out there

he's also a main, and people gave him a anguish, rigour, basically bis gear he can equip

https://youtu.be/52sdJckNExo

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he's on jad attempt 11 or 12

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I dont like talking down on people's skill in a game, but ngl it made me feel bad about how long it took me to get 1 kc

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here's from my GM task

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2:51 prep lmao

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849 sadge

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I'm starting to get levels in CG btw

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got a ranged level, about to get a mage level, got a hp level

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i always did CG with a butterfly net lmfao to catch crystal implings

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I did 5:1 here btw

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I got a 6:28 with 2 t3 weapons as well

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looks like venge helps, but makes sense

if a demi hits you a 40, you venge them a 30 = 1/3 of their hp "for free"

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i didnt use veng for the speed task but yeah it does help

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the dude on yt is doing the scuffed strat where you hit 5 times with good weapon

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and 6th hit with a shitty t1 weapon

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so you dont need 2x t3

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yeah you don't need to do that, especially not for M task

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for GM it can help

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but yeah it's majority is to get really good at prep

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I was watching the gm task

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and that was 5:1 punchng

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and no armor is RNG right

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the no armor task? yeah

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but it's easy