I mean it is, its usefulness is just arguable to different people
#development
worthy sparrow
glad ermine
I need to make sure my names don't overlap because I get strange unexpected behaviour otherwise
reef badger
i would think it's expected that if you type the letters in order for the tag in, that the tag shows up yeah
glad ermine
Yes but I'm not searching the bank in this case, I'm using the bank tags layout plugin
reef badger
i couldn't think of any reason why i would have tags with the same name
glad ermine
So then it's a bug in BTL for not doing exact matching in that case
glad ermine
i couldn't think of any reason why i would have tags with the same name
not "the same"
reef badger
do the names matter even in the slightest, when using that plugin?
stuck shale
i couldn't think of any reason why i would have tags with the same name
tob_nfrz
tob_rdps
tob finds both, but thats an easy fix... just call em nfrz,rdps
reef badger
they could all be named JEdkWRwPJWRJPWR
glad ermine
Apparently they do because I just reported a behaviour that's caused by having overlapping names
worthy sparrow
it uses bank tags under the hood
glad ermine
I have yama and yama-magic
stuck shale
they could all be named JEdkWRwPJWRJPWR
and this is how inventory setups does it, uses banktags plugin but with bunked names lol
rancid marten
I think we "fixed" this once and a bunch of people got mad
was awhile ago
atm its the intended behavior
glad ermine
I have yama and yama-magic
But I can't have that without screwing up one, so I need to manually bunk my names
they're now called yama, yamelee and yamemagic
but I dislike having to do that 🤷🏻♂️
worthy sparrow
I think we "fixed" this once and a bunch of people got mad
yes
reef badger
like Adam mentioned if we change it then the people who like this can't use it anymore
glad ermine
From the perspective of a person who makes two dirrerent tags and adds a layout to both, without understanding the underlying technicalities, this looks very much like a bug.
reef badger
when you can change what you have to not have this issue, they could not
glad ermine
I don't need bank tags to change
trail marten
if you want to reimplement part of bank tags in bank tag layouts I would accept that
and just hide things that shouldn't be in there
glad ermine
I would like it if BTL had different behaviour where it either bunked names internally, or changed the filter for shown items to only show exact matches
What about the name bunking thing for the other plugin?
Idk the exact mechanics of BTL but does it just show the items that bank tags would show, but place them differently?
glad ermine
Why would you need to reimplement bank tags to get this working (as expected by me lol)?
rancid marten
i cant find the commit where we fixed this before
glad ermine
It's not really needed
The logic change is probably very simple
Just match fuzzy until the search text matches exactly one tag
Geheur just said that so I trust him haha
trail marten
Just match fuzzy until the search text matches exactly one tag
no, match exact when a tag tab is open
at least, that's what I would want it to do
rancid marten
we could maybe try that again and measure how many people are mad
hollow parrot
can we also measure how many people would be happy
quick path
given how infrequently we hear complaints about how it works now, we already have an idea of that number
trail marten
even fewer people come in to complain that they are satisfied with it
worthy sparrow
how rude of them
quick path
that's not how things work? people don't complain about behavior they don't mind
restive garnet
thatsthejoke.jpg
upper valve
k there is nothing in the queue older than like a week now
rugged pivot
perfect time to drop my 10k diff
upper valve
[[donger]]
reef badger
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heavy bobcat
Rikten go brrrrr
tribal sparrow
The AudioPlayer is a bit too bare-bones for my use-case; no volume changing, detecting audio ended, stopping (although that might be mimicked by playing nothing if only 1 audio can be played at a time with Clip?)
Should I look into making a PR for it?
or am I maybe better off dropping .wav support on my side?
glass sandal
You can use java.sound if you have a good reason to. But if you want to PR the feature to AudioPlayer it would probably be appreciated
upper valve
you're using jaco right
it's just picking that stuff up through jaco you can ignore it
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sinful lava
@tribal sparrow Hi, we've disabled your music-replacer plugin. Please see https://github.com/runelite/plugin-hub/pull/10743 and submit a new PR when the plugin is in a working state.
tribal sparrow
<@631149365834022939> Hi, we've disabled your `music-replacer` plugin. Please se...
Thanks for catching the bug, apparently I practically only tested with my music volume on 😅 Should be fixed in https://github.com/runelite/plugin-hub/pull/10744
tribal sparrow
^Worries me a little bit though
I'm running cs2 scripts to turn music off/on so original track starts playing after an override
https://github.com/alowaniak/music-replacer/blob/15fb90df0b0d2196fadd8886c42789e62f78892b/src/main/java/nl/alowaniak/runelite/musicreplacer/MusicReplacerPlugin.java#L230
Is that behavior at risk of causing a ban? Or only because it was spamming it and will jagex resolve unjust ban?
(I'm also open for other ways to turn music back on, don't know any other way than that script abex pointed me to.
Also don't really understand the script, like why I have to turn it off first before on, and why I couldn't get it to work with a subscript like https://github.com/runelite/cs2-scripts/blob/5d5a7f977ce01ea4ec86c4e8d7c7d8b231f90005/scripts/[proc%2Cscript2475].cs2)
late hare
without looking at the flow of everything, I would make sure that those scripts are not being called every client tick because if they are I could see that being a bit off from the server perspective. of course I have no knowledge of what would or wouldn't trigger something on their end though
tribal sparrow
They shouldn't anymore but there was a bug where they were
late hare
because those two cs2 calls would be sending 1 packet each
swift knot
Question - my plugin seems to be overriding other plugin bar icon's, is this because I'm testing by running a Shadow jar, or is something in my code rucked up?
glass sandal
That just happens when you run the plugin test. I assume shadow jar as well. Should be fine on the hub
swift knot
Sweet, thank you
low hatch
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hollow stratus
I'm trying to add a config value for resetting a value, but a bool checkbox isn't the right UI component for this. But from searching in here, it seems we can't add JButtons to the config panel (correct me if I'm wrong here). What's the best pattern for a config option with idempotent behavior?
sinful lava
I'm trying to add a config value for resetting a value, but a bool checkbox isn'...
A user can right-click the config label and click "Reset" to reset it to its default value if that's what you're trying to do
granite quest
Is there any interest in hiding ground items on boats other than the players? Looking through the message history and the attached discussion it seems that this is achieved currently using Hide boats setting in Entity Hider. While this works I would like to see boats of other players.
https://github.com/runelite/runelite/discussions/19591
solid shadow
can just set this to "drops" right?
trail marten
dear god
granite quest
That is another workaround I saw. Currently items located on WorldView.TOPLEVEL are hidden by default when on a boat. Though i think this behavior may have been a side effect
hollow stratus
A user can right-click the config label and click "Reset" to reset it to its def...
not quite what I'm trying to do, but very similar. So I opened a PR for adding drag and drop functionality to the plugin toolbar where I had it written as a separate internal plugin. Adam said it should not be a plugin and should probably be integrated within the RuneLiteConfig. I've been working on this and here's where I'm at.
in the screenshot, you can see the "bot detector" plugin has been dragged up above Loot Tracker. As a user, I desire to reset the custom order but maintain customizability so I can start fresh and reorder the plugin tabs. Otherwise, I have no quick way to get icons back to how they started and would have to drag all the icons back to default order myself. This is distinctly different from just displaying the default order, which can be toggled with config.enableCustomOrder().
I maintain a "custom order" list separate from the default order, which I can fall back on when needed. I store/retrieve the custom order in configManager. When a user desires to reset their custom order to the same as the default, in my plugin implementation, I had overridden resetConfiguration() to include setting the custom order in configManager to the same as default order.
Current implementation is config.resetSidebar() is a bool and checking the box does reset to default, but this isn't an "on/off" behavior. So the user sees "Reset sidebar ✅" which communicates things in a funky way. They uncheck the box to reset it again, but again, that's a weird way to behave. I was thinking this should be a button that fires the reset behavior when pressed. Or, as a workaround, at least let me set config.resetSidebar() back to false once the event has been handled, but I can't find a way to do that.
I'm thinking if I had to, I could inform the users to always right click and hit "reset" on "Reset sidebar" but that's an unintuitive workaround. And overriding resetConfiguration() is a no go as that would reset all of the configuration values for RuneLiteConfig, not just the customize sidebar part
granite quest
can just set this to "drops" right?
While this filter works I don't think these items should be shown at all by default as they cannot be taken by the player even with telegrab
sinful lava
not quite what I'm trying to do, but very similar. So I opened a PR for adding d...
Ah, yeah we haven't really done anything like this before iirc. Not sure what the preferred way to proceed with this is. Last I've read about it, I don't think it's desirable to add a "button" config.
Was there no discussion about other ways of doing this (e.g. right-clicking the config button or w/e to bring up a menu)?
trail marten
not quite what I'm trying to do, but very similar. So I opened a PR for adding d...
don't try to do this. either native button support gets added or you find somewhere else to add the reset button (e.g. something on the sidebar).
one-off triggers on config options also suck because a profile change could trigger it.
grizzled aspen
i'm personally not sure why this would need a reset button when i could just put them wherever i wanted
trail marten
someone is gonna come in and ask for it. but yes it really is their problem isn't it 😛
hollow stratus
i'm personally not sure why this would need a reset button when i could just put...
I put it in my message, but long = 😵💫
As a user, I desire to reset the custom order but maintain customizability so I can start fresh and reorder the plugin tabs. Otherwise, I have no quick way to get icons back to how they started and would have to drag all the icons back to default order myself.
grizzled aspen
yes i see that but i still don't see why that is actually a thing
rancid marten
I think I said this before, but just having a context menu on the toolbar to reset would work I think
hollow stratus
I've ran into this personally lol. When dragging evry icon all over the place, it's a huge pain in the ass to get them back in the default order by dragging each. We made a plugin for solving the slide puzzles in game, I definitely don't want to make users do this for the plugin toolbar 😅
hollow stratus
I think I said this before, but just having a context menu on the toolbar to res...
forgive me as I'm still learning swing as I use it, but would that be something we already have a pattern/component in use elsewhere for me to borrow?
grizzled aspen
actual users aren't going to be moving them randomly though. and since the position isn't decided by core and by the plugin author they are already essentially arbitrarily positioned. just my thoughts though
rancid marten
look for use of JMenu
trail marten
what if instead you could just add buttons to the config, is that a really hard thing to do?
rancid marten
no, but i dont think it is a very good ux to reset the sidebar that way
hollow stratus
actual users aren't going to be moving them randomly though. and since the posit...
yeah, I'm trying to be as least intrusive with this. The treeset that stores the plugins maintains a comparitor that uses all the plugins' defined priority to determine order, so I don't want to mess with those
trail marten
no, but i dont think it is a very good ux to reset the sidebar that way
only because people might not know to look in "runelite" plugin.
if this feature ends up being default off so people have to go there then I think it would be fine.
rancid marten
i think making people to go the rl config to enable the sorting is also pretty bad ux
ideally i would not do that either
honestly i think that is really just a terrible idea
trail marten
yeah it's weird to have an "enable otherwise unobtrusive feature"
hollow stratus
i think making people to go the rl config to enable the sorting is also pretty b...
that's why I had initially made it the internal plugin because there are tags that users can search that would make it more obvious what it was instead of a setting buried in another "plugin"
but yeah, it could be just always on, right click toolbar to reset
rancid marten
if it could be always on and also in a way that prevents people from accidentally reordering that would be nice
not sure how hard that is
hollow stratus
configuration of hotkey is what I designed to prevent exactly that 🙂
amber rampart
I would probably make it like the windows taskbar where you can just unlock it with a context menu
hollow stratus
testing it myself, I knew there were times I would accidentally drag it and that was an issue when I wasn't expecting that and didn't realize which had been dragged
rancid marten
I would probably make it like the windows taskbar where you can just unlock it w...
this is what i was thinking, but a hotkey could also work
hollow stratus
I would probably make it like the windows taskbar where you can just unlock it w...
I'm a fan of that idea too. It can use the exact same logic gates that are used for checking if the hotkey is pressed, and would reduce all the hotkey listener crap
amber rampart
it could be tied to alt like everything else we have
hollow stratus
what if instead you could just add buttons to the config, is that a really hard ...
I haven't looked into all the extras that would be needed, but ConfigPanel.java has a big list of else if (cid.getType() == ... ) { item.add(createX(cd, cid), BorderLayout.EAST) }. It'd have to provide some way to provide the action listener, and there would probably be concerns around length of text in the button, but it seems feasible.
hollow stratus
it could be tied to alt like everything else we have
would you say it should use the same runeliteconfig hotkey?
amber rampart
yeah
hollow stratus
I like it. Simplifies things. Working on a JMenu version now
hollow stratus
from an implementation perspective, it seems it should either be drag with hotkey or lock/unlock behavior, but probably not both. The purpose is to prevent accidental movements, so both accomplish that goal. Not sure which is most intuitive for RL's design language. To me, I'm always using hotkeys as part of interacting with runelite, so I'm leaning that way
worthy sparrow
Having only a hotkey would seem like an annoying inconvenience because we don't really have an open and obviously hotkey modifier
hollow stratus
I think you're forgetting the runelite config drag hotkey. Using that would keep the hotkey usage consistent across the application
worthy sparrow
What
hollow stratus
obviously I'm still open to whatever the consensus is, but there's already the hotkey that we can use that would follow the same design language for dragging in the game window
sinful lava
What
the already-existing "Drag hotkey" abex mentioned here #development message
hollow stratus
I got you ron
sinful lava
it would be consistent, and the tooltip for the "Drag hotkey" config is already "Configures the hotkey used to drag UI elements around." which fits this use case
hollow stratus
I have the new DragAndDropTabbedPane UI component using a new JMenu entry. I'm currently chopping it down to just a "reset order" option and dragging will be always enabled but locked behind the drag hotkey
hollow stratus
also see adam's thoughts on the menu implementation #development message
worthy sparrow
I didn't say that
hollow stratus
can you explain? Your messages are pretty short which makes it easy to misinterpret what you were saying
worthy sparrow
I got you ron
You have this but you delete the runelite config you added
hollow stratus
You have this but you delete the runelite config you added
yeah, I'm in the middle of removing the runelite config entries for customizing the sidebar and removing the "enable/disable custom order" logic in favor of an always-on behavior, gated by either hotkey (preferred) or a lock/unlock value in the new right click menu. I'm currenty chopping out the lock/unlock menu entry and am working on switching over to using runeliteConfig.dragHotkey()
worthy sparrow
Yes and my reply is I think it's better to have both a drag hot key and the menu
People will right click the sidebar bar and see reset and then come into support asking why they can't drag tabs
hollow stratus
menu = runelite config section or menu = right click?
heavy bobcat
Right click
hollow stratus
Yes and my reply is I think it's better to have both a drag hot key and the menu
awesome, we're on the same page, that's the plan
sorry the screenshot was misleading 😅 middle of changing things
worthy sparrow
I have the new DragAndDropTabbedPane UI component using a new JMenu entry. I'm c...
It was a reply to this saying you removed the unlock and unlock
hollow stratus
ahh, so you like the idea of needing to use the hot key as well as allowing locking/unlocking? Kind of a double safety measure?
worthy sparrow
No?
paper silo
any maintainers, if i can get my core plugin down to 5-6k lines would that be feasible or would you like to see it smaller than that for the first review? this is regarding the lending tracker PR
upper valve
5-6k is no problemo
paper silo
im going through it now to see what i can cut out without dropping the whole use of the plugin.
upper valve
also lol at you randomly having 11k of unused panel code
paper silo
how soon after would yall be alright with me rolling out updates to try and get it back to somewhat close to how i built it?
yaaaa that was a really horrible fail on my part lol i thought i removed it but a huge overlook lol
i got to excited to submit and never looked back to see if i completely removed it 🤣
upper valve
how soon after would yall be alright with me rolling out updates to try and get ...
idk wym
paper silo
idk wym
well i want to cut it down now to get it pushed for review. but alot of the features i added i feel makes it pretty usefull. im sure theres a good chunk that can be removed perm but theres some that make it extremely user friendly and eventually id like to add them in with rolling updates. im not talking do this pr then a few days later submit another 4k lines maybe a few hundred lines at a time. so its manageable for review to build it back up
upper valve
if your diff prs get a size-xl label then you're sending too much code basically
anything size-l or less would be fine
paper silo
i just dont want to burden yall or take time way from other PRs
hidden echo
if your diff prs get a size-xl label then you're sending too much code basically
Do we know loc that triggers each size label?
paper silo
looking at it i feel i could get it to about 13k max after redoing some structure and removing fluff (not sent all at once)
paper silo
if your diff prs get a size-xl label then you're sending too much code basically
ill keep this in mind, thank you. if it helps too i can send some SS to show the plugin panel. not sure if thats doing to much or if it helps tho lol
upper valve
that does nothing
worthy sparrow
it just gives us an idea of why
upper valve
Do we know loc that triggers each size label?
its visible in the github bots code yeah
but also your pr is sort of in the quantum realm
paper silo
gotcha, ill keep working on it and resubmit when i get it worked out. thank you for the insight
hidden echo
but also your pr is sort of in the quantum realm
haha ye i wasnt asking in reference to mine, was just curious. I'm aware that mine is as you say in the quantum realm hehe
hidden echo
but also your pr is sort of in the quantum realm
I would love to one day return to it and just remove it all the dangerous obstacle stuff except the stuff that the core agility plugin also provides. So keep the route/floor timers, coffin obstacles, and customization of bolts/swords, all which should be a total non-issue - but its just really awkward when the plugin has already been disabled
grizzled aspen
Why is it awkward. If you remove the questionable features it can just be enabled again
trail marten
what determines if a right-click menu opens up on left click?
(nevermind, ignore all that)
had an onmenuoptionclicked event.consume() that I forgot about
hidden echo
Why is it awkward. If you remove the questionable features it can just be enable...
Hmm, maybe awkward is the wrong word, but because while i know which features were problematic, they didnt really give a clear message. So i cant expect code reviewer to accept/reject based on their vague message
as rikten said "'might be a little bit more palatable' is sort of a completely vague non statement so idk what to do with that"
spice stirrup
Qq - where is the version # set in the bottom left?
took a glance at the plugin-hub docs and couldn't find anything on it
upper valve
build.gradle
spice stirrup
Thought so. I had <version>-SNAPSHOT, and currently my plugin shows the short-form commit hash. Will it use <version> if I remove "-SNAPSHOT"?
upper valve
yep
spice stirrup
Awesome, cheers
odd oasis
Is it possible to do custom animations? I want to make new cow pet do this
reef badger
Note: when we automatically uncheck the box when we merge a PR, we still display the note
buh
trail marten
why does bank tag layouts require maintainer review?
(just wondering)
is it the mouselistener?
kind junco
What are the rules and regulations in regards to dynamic tile markers. I am pretty sure that a tile marker that tells you where to stand during a certain boss move is not allowed (afaik)
But are we allowed to have tile markers that are static from the boss's coordinates?
So basically similar to npc tile markers but outside the radius of the npc
low hatch
But are we allowed to have tile markers that are static from the boss's coordina...
Wouldn't that still make it dynamic 🤔
I would imagine the answer is no because it involves bossing and could help the player decide where to stand. Where-as a plugin like Radius Marker simply allows you to view a radius, and doesn't really provide the means to direct the player which exact tile to stand on. Just my two cents though. 🤷♂️
kind junco
I would imagine the answer is no because it involves bossing and could help the ...
I also meant it as a radius marker basically just like circles around the boss
But you can decide the offset
But yeah I agree probably not allowed, was just an intrusive thought
low hatch
But you can decide the offset
Think you can already expand the radius within Radius Markers, but not too sure.
low hatch
But you can decide the offset
An offset to me just sounds like trying to circumvent not being allowed to mark tiles 🤷♂️
kind junco
Think you can already expand the radius within Radius Markers, but not too sure.
I didnt know that if thats the case then it answers my question 🤷🏻♂️
kind junco
An offset to me just sounds like trying to circumvent not being allowed to mark ...
I'm not planning on making a plugin I was just curious what is "allowed" just an intrusive thought like i said 😄 ty for the info ❤️
wind fjord
Hello!
Im thinking of adding group features to my plugin, got it mostly done.
I registered a SupaBase for db, and hooked the plugins multiplayer stuff to that.
I just wanna make sure this SupaBase solution for example is somethign that get accepted
upper valve
how are you talking to the db from your plugin
wind fjord
rest apis+RPC for read write and websocket for live updates between party members
upper valve
what rpc
wind fjord
join_group
create_group
leave_group
post_unlock
get_group_members
kick_member
set_display_name
what i ahve setup so far
upper valve
basically as long as you're talking to whatever you're talking to over http/websocket (via okhttp) then you're good
wind fjord
so im basically calling it like this: POST /rest/v1/rpc/join_group
upper valve
that doesn't matter
when you said rpc i thought you meant like grpc or something
which would be an issue
the only other callout is that this HAS to be opt-in since your plugin doesn't do any networking to 3rd party servers already. and the config needs a warning set to the style of the standard disclaimer message we use
wind fjord
gotchu ! thank you very much !
srry last question regarding this, where can I find the standard disclaimer message ? 😄
upper valve
This plugin submits your IP address and <brief summary of information transmitted> to a 3rd party server not controlled or verified by the RuneLite Developers. Normally when a person introduces a new plugin that needs it I would set this for them but in this case I can't since it needs to be a warning on the @ConfigItem that controls it
If you're just sharing plugin state or whatever you can just say ip address
that's the main one we care about
wind fjord
awesome! thank you very much !
hollow stratus
Hey all, working on last tweaks for the customize sidebar functionality. I'm still green when it comes to how Java and Runelite's EDT operates and its performance. I'm trying to sanity check response times when r-clicking on the plugin toolbar sometimes not registering. I'm not sure if this is a common pattern and it's not exclusive to my work or if it's due to how I've constructed listeners.
I have debug statements for when the right click event is caught, but sometimes right clicks aren't caught/logged at all. Trying to determine if this is something worth digging into if the cause are my changes or not. If anyone else can point me in the right direction or needs any additional info from me to help diagnose, I'm here to learn/help
grizzled aspen
the mouse needs to have not moved a single pixel for some events for it to register if i remember
hollow stratus
I managed to record it happening. Black circles are left click, green circles are right clicks. Note the multiple right clicks with no JMenu popping up. No log statements appeared either. I assume it's processing something behind the scenes that hasn't completed. Researching causes now
trail marten
you're moving your mouse
and when it works it didn't move
fwiw the screenshot button on the top bar doesn't work like this, idk if that would be useful to look at
you can move your mouse after pressing down right click and it will still work
(although if you could get the right-click menu to open on mouse down instead of on up, that is best imo)
worthy sparrow
plugin buttons can also have a right click menu iirc
rancid marten
the world hopper panel has a menu on each world
low hatch
Thanks
I was looking at a PR made for a plugin which attempts to determine whether or not letters were suppose to be uppercased or not, and I had a question: IIRC we aren't allowed to do something like pasting in a message, but are we allowed to modify a message content such as introducing a special character that would ensure case-sensitivity?
heavy bobcat
My understanding is that you aren't allowed to manipulate what a player types into the chatbox whatsoever
raven terrace
hey guys, my phub plugin does not need a config, yet i have a config file. when i updated the mod just now (it's been a few years since the last) the line @ConfigGroup("example") in the config file is getting flagged during the checks. Can i just nuke the whole HerbSackPriceCheckConfig.java file, or do i need to fill it with correct data?
rancid marten
delete the whole file
rustic canyon
Hey so a bit of a weird situations I have myself in.
I decided to try to fix the zoom bug in Camera Smoothing all I did so far is update it's build.gradle to match the current template setup as well as fix it's CameraSmoothingPluginTest.java
Now with dev build running, the world hop zoom out issue dissapeared.
I have not changed the plugin code outside of removing this int variable.
int bombo; //PAY NO ATTENTION : BOMBO
Which was not referenced anywhere.
I am uncertain if the bug is truly gone or if the clean dev build is somehow affecting it.
Could someone more seasoned than I give me information to verify that the plugin is truly fixed?
glass sandal
Replicating the issue to verify you fixed it is probably a good step
rustic canyon
i guess I can add the int back and see if that changes anything
restive garnet
it's a load-bearing bombo
rustic canyon
Actually adding it back makes the build completely fail.
Only way to get the plugin to build and launch runelite was to update build.gradle and remove the int I mentioned above, which does not reproduce the bug.
rustic canyon
Managed to get it to build and launch with minimal modifications, but I am unable to reproduce the bug, a tad frustrating.
ok this is funny, decided to test it again on live (non-dev) build, and the issue just dissapeared after I simply re-installed the plugin.
Doing more testing though.
I tried that before, but it didn't fix the issue. Interesting.
Ok so this is even more weird. I use an alt account for dev build stuff, due to the whole token thing, the issue does not exist on that account, but does on my main one ive used for a while. Ive already re-installed rl to make sure is not something local.
What could be causing the issue to show up on one account but not the other?
Seems it has to do with some character specific ingame setting. Not RL settings. My speedrun profile does not have the issue, time to dig 😄
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rustic canyon
Ok it has something to do with the in-game settings which turn off camera effects.
frosty fern
Do you not get the dev menu when doing plugin development? Or do I need to pass an argument for it to load with it?
sinful lava
Do you not get the dev menu when doing plugin development? Or do I need to pass ...
You need to use the --developer-mode client arg to get the developer tools sidebar thing
frosty fern
Cheers
paper silo
5-6k is no problemo
should be way more manageable now lol
frank sapphire
in IntelliJ, it seems my dependencies are missing for runelite (was working a few weeks before)
if i run the code it still works though, but i cant check the libraries, anyone knows what might be causing it?
rustic canyon
Seems I've fixed it the zoom snapping in Camera Smoothing.
When the client is in the login state, the plugin is reading the viewport zoom VarClientInt while the CAMERA_ZOOM_BIG/SMALL is still animating towards -1, causing an unstable value.
Simple solution was to gate the zoom smoothing to > 0 on a game tick, after LOGGED_IN.
worthy sparrow
in IntelliJ, it seems my dependencies are missing for runelite (was working a fe...
Restart intellij?
frank sapphire
Restart intellij?
I tried it, and also restarting my pc, but didnt help sadly
worthy sparrow
delete .m2 folder
upper valve
this, this is always the answer
like we actually gotta replace /moremaven with /deletem2
upper valve
yeah
frank sapphire
i have .gradle , don't think i'm using maven
upper valve
there's still m2 if you're using gradle
m2 is mavenLocal
which gradle uses
but also blow up .gradle, close intellij and git clean your repo and all that
just add .m2 to the list of things to nuke off in this case basically
frank sapphire
yeah weird, idk, i just don't have that folder there
frank sapphire
but also blow up .gradle, close intellij and git clean your repo and all that
ok will try
frank sapphire
but also blow up .gradle, close intellij and git clean your repo and all that
that worked, i just nuked everything and it re-downloaded the whole runelite gradle project, thanks
Removing .env
Removing .gradle/
Removing .idea/
Removing build/
rustic canyon
Made the pull request, hopefully the maintainer of camera-smoothing sees it soon.
prisma meadow
has anyone else that doesnt use intellij come along issues trying to simply build runelite with gradle through the terminal?
quick path
building on the command line works for me, what issue are you having?
prisma meadow
either javadoc related errors or issues with testing
quick path
build with java11
quick path
yeah, for some reason javadoc generation fails on higher versions
prisma meadow
i see
quick path
I use JAVA_HOME=/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64 ./gradlew :buildAll, but the path might be different for you
neon haven
https://sdkman.io/ is great if you want something to manage different jdk installs
rancid marten
curl | bash!
prisma meadow
i was just using direnv to have java 17 only in the runelite dir
but ill try 11 and see how it goes
low hatch
pajaDank Has there been in uptick in vibecoded merching sites?
pastel tree
Hi, does anyone know a way to tell if an object is part of the map, as opposed to being spawned by the server? For example, trees are part of the original map. They exist in the map's default state. Fires on the other hand are spawned by players, they are are not part of the original map.
quiet kettle
Hi, does anyone know a way to tell if an object is part of the map, as opposed t...
I think during loadScene, only stuff which "is part of the map" will be included, until a zone invalidation happens
pastel tree
I *think* during `loadScene`, only stuff which "is part of the map" will be incl...
ah right, thanks!
neat wyvern
pajaDank Has there been in uptick in _vibecoded_ merching sites?
It makes sense; data vis is not a hard problem for the simple stuff economy people want to do. Scaling sucks, it's probably over-complex, but if you hire someone to do that nowadays they'll use garbage things like JS, react, and pre-written webservers; AI can do a mediocre job too, so the average web dev isn't special. What do you think?
neat wyvern
it's a load-bearing bombo
You nailed the inside joke this is hilarious 🙂 ❤️
restive garnet
it reminded me of the apocryphal coconut.jpg story from TF2
knotty lintel
@rancid marten do you need anything from me for https://github.com/runelite/rlawt/pull/4 ?
knotty lintel
ok, lmk if you need anything! ☺️
rancid marten
i already had him test it
prime bane
I'm suddenly getting al these kinds of errors, even though I can still run the plugin through Intellij?
sinful lava
I'm suddenly getting al these kinds of errors, even though I can still run the p...
CTRL+SHIFT+A and type "refresh gradle dependencies" (or go through the elephant icon in the right sidebar)
prime bane
thanks, ctrl + shift + a method didn't work for me, but through the elephant option and SYNC ALL did work
visual nymph
I've been looking into the issue with plugins that draw to the screen (i.e, tile markers, outlines, clickboxes) being lower res when using the stretch mode plugin. Would it be possible to have plugins drawing on the ABOVE_SCENE layer do so to a separate, full resolution buffer, and put that on a quad behind the normal interface?
I tried hacking something together to test, but ran into issues with BufferedImage not supporting the right formats. And before I tried figuring out a shader or something to fix it, I thought I'd ask if this is something that would be more trivial to implement for someone with access to the internal code. Namely whatever image class supports the graphics API in the right pixel format natively that's used with the BufferProvider
glass sandal
Can read from here about the last time it was brought up #development message
visual nymph
Thanks, I missed that. Though, they didn't seem to bring up rendering to a separate buffer for that layer entirely, since that wouldn't require touching any of the internal UI drawing stuff, nor have the drawbacks they mentioned about mucking with the ordering of things
rancid marten
I dont think that is true
Like a really simple example would be you want to draw a overlay over a tile, but underneath the game ui like the inventroy or bank or something
"rendering to a separate buffer" doesnt actually solve that problem
visual nymph
The current interface is a texture drawn on a quad that's positioned perfectly in front of the camera in the GPU plugin, right? With the game geometry behind it?
rancid marten
only if gpu is on
you can interleave overlays in between ui layers though so that doesnt really matter
visual nymph
Sure, but this is a nonissue with GPU off, since then the whole game is drawn at a lower res when you use stretch mode like that
rancid marten
like another simple example would be you want the overlay to be above the inventory but below the right click menu
visual nymph
I don't know if it really matters if those elements are drawn at a higher res, because they're effectively always UI elements, which you'd also want scaled up, right?
Like interface tags. Drawn as is, it's pixel perfect with the normal Runescape interface. A higher res outline would probably actively look strange if anything
rancid marten
I guess if you made a layer only for scene overlays and nothing else that was larger that might work
you would end up instead of like, world draw + ui draw it would be world draw + new-larger-ui-buffer draw + normal ui draw
which is weird
amber rampart
also would like 3x the ui upload time
rancid marten
you might be able to composite them on gpu or something using j2d
amber rampart
the upload is probably faster than using j2d
rancid marten
although I guess even if you did do that, you would then be relying on j2d upscaling which defeats the point
visual nymph
I don't know if the ordering actually matters, if it's on a separate buffer rendered to a separate quad. It'd just be passing a graphics2d backed by something else to the renderer in drawScene(). The compositing would be naturally handled by positioning the quad behind the normal interface one
I don't really have anything to say about the GPU upload, though. Is a full screen resolution texture per frame a nontrivial cost?
amber rampart
at some point you would have to say all overlays before a certain point get the hires buffer and the ones after get a lowres buffer otherwise they would render wrong
rancid marten
yes its one of the most expensive parts of the frame draw really
i always thought about trying to just make the client ui render stuff just upscale everything itself
and then remove the gpu upscaling
presumably the gpu upscaling stuff is a lot better though when upscaling images
amber rampart
we could precalc sprites at least with the gpu algos
rancid marten
yeah
amber rampart
its stuff like the minimap that would be weird
rancid marten
I guess you would have to upscale the minimap image based on the client scale setting
and then from there apply zoom
idk, it seems like it would be possible mostly to do I think.
visual nymph
yes its one of the most expensive parts of the frame draw really
Would uploading it as a compressed texture of some kind work, since it'd be primarily empty alpha, or is it actually the latency that's the problem?
amber rampart
compression would probably be slower
- I'm not sure that would be a good idea for a ui texture
fluid stump
Minimap drawing was crazy expensive added it on gpu and it was fairly cheap tho just should not pr it coz needed apis
anyway for me to put the overlay under the amount number using WidgetItemOverlay?
late hare
the number is part of the sprite, so prob not
upper valve
were any of those maybe causing string inputs in configs to not show up in the config panel
rancid marten
yes
low hatch
It makes sense; data vis is not a hard problem for the simple stuff economy peop...
I don't care that much of the implementation (since I'm not the one using it). I was only pointing out the number of merching sites being put out these days. Reminds me of RL plugins Better x 😂
upper valve
merching plugins are the new bingo it seems
i am noticing most of them seem to have verbage/code for a "premium" mode so i think it's just a grift
desert fulcrum
merching plugins are the new bingo it seems
i have 40 claude agents coding up bestest bingo plugin gl
rose void
im surprised they even try instead of just getting people to download jars
thorn grotto
i am noticing most of them seem to have verbage/code for a "premium" mode so i t...
i guess people be seeing flipping copilot success and want in
fluid stump
Hey I have two questions abotut the PH:
- Can i add a custom build step like so [https://github.com/117HD/RLHD/pull/977/changes/f36da7b479ccc65655ebe80c2e2f922077147f77]
- Can i use kts for gradle now since runelite does ?
low hatch
i am noticing most of them seem to have verbage/code for a "premium" mode so i t...
Yep. Last two plugin hub submissions I saw were merching related and pulling up the site obviously has some premium mode pushed.
low hatch
i guess people be seeing flipping copilot success and want in
Thing is, it doesn't seem like that. So far at least. They seemed like yet another merching/flipping site.
Sorry I think I left the tag on
heady pond
Hey I have two questions abotut the PH:
- Can i add a custom build step like so...
- Would prefer if you didn't (requires more thorough review)
- Yes, that option has been allowed for years - https://github.com/pajlads/runelite-plugin-template/blob/main/build.gradle.kts is what i use
neat wyvern
My immediate response to the flipping premium modes is negative, but confronting my biases, I think it's actually wholesome people who want to give money to keep a developer employed to work on their favorite plugin can. Otherwise, no work would be done.
My problem with myself is I occasionally have this spite,
This kind of license has always seemed to me to be more about spite than anything else: "I didn't make any money from this, so there's no bloody way I'm going to let anyone else do so."
From https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/6wie9/eric_haines_on_academic_use_only_licenses/
sharp knot
Flipping utilities has had a paid version for ages fwiw
kindred condor
Hi, does anyone know what to do here?
Within trouble brewing you can send a monkey up into a tree. I am trying to detect which option within the dialogue the player selected. I managed to do it with onMenuOptionClicked, but how do I detect the same thing when the player uses their keyboard to select an option within that menu? I cant seem to figure it out
rancid marten
it will fire a script event for script 57
kindred condor
tysm will look into that
rancid marten
theres probably some existing plugins somewhere which hooks to it, not sure
fluid stump
1. Would prefer if you didn't (requires more thorough review)
2. Yes, that optio...
Even if it's a one time thing and we don't mind it taking a little longer? We could swap from groovy to java if that helps?
glass sandal
I think action progress does
low hatch
Flipping utilities has had a paid version for ages fwiw
Oh really? TIL
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tribal root
When attempting to build weapon-animation-replacer plugin I get Unable to load class 'org.gradle.jvm.toolchain.JavaToolchainSpec'. error every time, no matter the Idea version. Tried using both 2025.3.1.1 and 2025.3.2
@trail marten I suspect that gradle version might be too old on that plugin, but I am not sure if that's the case. what do you use to build the plugin?
anyway, the reason I've tried setting up dev environment to look around and see if I can make a fix for "special -> special voidwaker (old)" replacement not working with voidwaker (deadman) as a trigger item. do you reckon this is fixable?
trail marten
did you look at voidwalker deadman with id finder?
maybe the ids are different
idk about building it
I hit the run button, that's all I know.
tribal root
yes, voidwaker's ID is 27690 vs voidwaker (deadman)'s ID is 29607
trail marten
are you under "animation swap" or "attack swap"?
tribal root
this is what I have, I think that's animation swap?
oh, I've found the issue. I must've somehow set up the swap for corrupted voidwaker and not voidwaker (deadman) 🤦♀️ I'm sorry for wasting your time. readding the swap worked
bitter marten
hey, i was wondering if anyone knows the best way to detect pet collection ?
misty hornet
Check the way Dink does it
bitter marten
what is dink, sorry im a little new
rancid marten
its a plugin
bitter marten
cheers will have a look
does anyone know if its possible to suppress the clog popup for a specific item instead of just turning it off
tulip wagon
@soft olive jagex is now transmitting a varp for personal points VarPlayerID.TOA_PERSONAL_CONTRIBUTION. it's only set when the raid ends, not throughout the raid. I'm updating the toa plugin to respect it so you'll get the new value (and team values) from the existing PluginMessage, but you could also update raid data tracker to use it as a fallback if the user isn't using my plugin
soft olive
<@92704501592522752> jagex is now transmitting a varp for personal points `VarPl...
I very much appreciate the heads up!
twin rover
hey guys, just wondering - i submitted a plugin yesterday thats still waiting for review, just wonder if pushing a new commit will mess that up or should i wait until its approved/hopefully accepted before updating it?
misty hornet
hey guys, just wondering - i submitted a plugin yesterday thats still waiting fo...
It’ll get pushed down in review priority with each commit
twin rover
alright ill just wait then, wasnt a major update just a little qol
grizzled aspen
it isn't going to make a difference if you submitted yesterday
twin rover
how long does it usually take for the review? had like 50 ppl in cc bombarding me when its going to up lol
misty hornet
Depends on a bunch of factors, but mostly it’s just whenever someone gets to it
You can check open dates on closed PRs to see how long it took on average for plugins with the new plugin tag to get a rough estimate
twin rover
yeah seemed like a few days at least on avg, not terrible, thanks for letting me know tho ❤️
grizzled aspen
the ci doesn't run automatically for new accounts so i ran it for you and you have a build issue you will need to fix anyways
twin rover
oh didnt notice, worked perfect on my tests, ill double check
only thing i see on it is "MazchnaSkipPluginTest.java uses unchecked or unsafe operations." would that be causing the issue?
glass sandal
https://github.com/runelite/plugin-hub/actions/runs/22530544956/job/65338637333?pr=10796
MazchnaSkipping: invalid plugin file name "MazchnaSkipping"
in file plugins/MazchnaSkipping
plugin file names must be lowercase alphanumeric + dashes. try: "mazchnaskipping"
twin rover
damn my capital letters
alright i swear im blind but ive checked every file and cant find that string of text anywhere 😒
heavy bobcat
It's the file name
upper valve
did you see the slayer task boosting plugin its like super configurable
and probably does what you want
twin rover
definetly looks pretty close to what i wanted, i originally made this plugin for myself, but i assume ppl want it since i had so many ppl in cc asking for it lol, and now that im this far i might as well see it through , but at least that plugin will help me out with my current project
would that error be from - @PluginDescriptor(
name = "Mazchna Skipping",
configName = "mazchnaskip",
enabledByDefault = true,
description = "Mazchna Slayer Boosting",
tags = {"slayer", "boost", "overlay", "task", "mazchna", "canfis"}
twin rover
idk how thats there? i dont have it in intellij or on git? did i somehow do it when submitting?
glass sandal
twin rover
yeah no i see that part, but i cant find the plugins file anywhere on my git/ide file
glass sandal
twin rover
oh ffs i was looking on my plugin git not the plugin hub one
got it so i just named it wrong when submitting i guess, ill do a few small tweaks a resubmit properly
upper valve
just push a new commit to your plugin hub fork that updates the file
dont need a new pr
twin rover
hey guys just resubmitted my commit, missed a plugin name lol, just wondering - when i go to test my plugin it shows no errors, so is there anyway i can test these if they run properly in the future so i dont have to submit it multiple times?
reef badger
your situation is only because you're using a brand new github account
and they dont let those auto run workflows, otherwise you'd just see within a minute if the build was successful or not
twin rover
ohh gotcha, thanks 🙂
snow needle
I registered one of my objects to the event bus like so:
@Inject
void register()
{
eventBus.register(this);
}
but I noticed after shutdown it's still receiving events because I have no way to unregister it. What is best practice for event bus registration? Do I just handle registration in my Plugin's startUp() and shutdown()?
amber rampart
yes
tulip crescent
How can I make, test, and release a plugin. Is there a guide somewhere
topaz pierBOT
How to develop plugin-hub plugins: https://github.com/runelite/plugin-hub/blob/master/README.md
tulip crescent
Ty ty
Are there guidelines on what is and isnt allowed
Thinking of making a plugin that shows you the stepback method for muspah
topaz pierBOT
Jagex's third party client guidelines: https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/third-party-client-guidelines?oldschool=1
Additionally, these features have been rejected or removed from RuneLite: https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/Rejected-or-Rolled-Back-Features
thorn grotto
that would not be allowed i guess
tulip crescent
Ah mb im on my phone rn
reef badger
ah
tulip crescent
Hmm that just says it was removed cause it told you what to pray too
restive garnet
Well, how do you intend to show the stepback method for muspah? 🙂
tulip crescent
Was gonna have tiles around muspah light up
restive garnet
Yea, you can't do that
bitter marten
is there a way to change linked github account i made a new account to have the same names
restive garnet
Was gonna have tiles around muspah light up
bitter marten
can you add colour outlines to the boss i think iv seen this done on muspahs different phases?
restive garnet
If they're to indicate the style or timing of an incoming attack, no
bitter marten
fair
kindred condor
I have lines around an npc, if the player moves past those lines the lines change colour. Would this be considered automatically indicating where to stand or not to stand? And if i have a timer changing colour and not those lines would that still not be okay?
tulip crescent
Alright cool thank you, I want tk build something bit ill have to do a bit of research first
restive garnet
I have lines around an npc, if the player moves past those lines the lines chang...
The line crossing thing seems bad, but having a timer change its' colour between ticks without any connection to events happening around you is probably fine (I think the Visual Metronome can already do this)
There may be some nuance I'm missing there...
bitter marten
im having trouble doing 2 pr for seperate plugins can anyone give us a hand before i spam the log
glass sandal
Use a branch for each plugin and pr each bracnh to plugin-hub
bitter marten
i did make seperate branchs but they seem to include each other in the plugin files im pretty new to github as well so that doesnt help
reef badger
it's probably because you made the first one from master
kindred condor
Then im guessing what i have now wouldnt be allowed? I check the distance between player and npc. If that is above 8 i have the radius marker and pie component change colour. Changing colour on the distance to an npc (also when the npc moves) wouldnt be allowed im guessing. Just double checking before im asking for a review for plugin hub later so i can change it before then :D
reef badger
just commit out the "other one" from each branch
we squash hub PRs so it doesn't matter if there's
"add plugin 1"
"add plugin 2"
"remove plugin 1"
bitter marten
easy cheers
hmm i must be missing something if i delete plugin 1 form branch 2 it also deletes plugin1 from branch 1
bitter marten
yeah sorry just realised it opened to changes
very new my bad hahha
thanks for the help
restive garnet
Then im guessing what i have now wouldnt be allowed? I check the distance betwee...
I don't see anything specifically mentioning attack ranges, though it could be interpreted that indicating a specific distance is good or bad is an indication of where to stand (or not stand)
By that logic, this would be rejected on the hub
By design, the list of things that are blocked by plugins is not exhaustive - players are a creative bunch 😄
bitter marten
at the moment the only way i can play test plugins is by using a legacy account and runing the client through intellij, is this the only way ?
kindred condor
I don't see anything specifically mentioning attack ranges, though it could be i...
👍 ty ill remove it
It wasnt for any attack range, it was purely to show if the player would get a bitternut in trouble brewing or if the npc that spawns when doing grubs is able to despawn
restive garnet
Ah, you might be fine with that - boss rules are a little more stringent, see
wispy panther
Hey guys, trying to ensure im super cautious regarding rules. Im thinking about adding a feature to my plugin, but want to confirm what is meant by the rejected feature: Plugins which "crowdsource" data about other players, such as player locations, gear, names, etc.
Does this mean i cant report the location of OTHER players, but i can report location of the players using the plugin? Then am i allowed to retrieve all of these voluntarily reported locations (plugin installed & config enabled to report location) in the plugin?
Thank you!
glass sandal
It means like reporting the gear of everyone you see in the wilderness isn't allowed. The intent is scouting those kinds of things
wispy panther
Ah that makes sense, thanks for clarifying 🙂
restive garnet
As far as a plugin letting its' users see the location of its' other users subject to config, that's basically the Party plugin 😄
though I suspect the net's a bit wider in your case
wispy panther
though I suspect the net's a bit wider in your case
yes definitely haha, Still in 'planning' phase anyways, thank you!
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bitter marten
does the key get removed the same tick the chest opens?
sonic quest
Quick question (and not sure to ask here or in #support)... If I run the plugin I am developing via Intellij and set the --debug argument; Is it (and how) possible to suppress other debug statements and only show those that are from my package?
rugged pivot
the most recent build.gradle should do that if you run the gradle run instead of running the test class directly
polar lake
does the key get removed the same tick the chest opens?
yes, i think so
bitter marten
would that error be caused from the key being removed and replaced in the same tick so cant detect diff in inv? just curious trying to learn
sonic quest
the most recent build.gradle should do that if you run the gradle run instead of...
that is the one from 3 months ago right?
rugged pivot
if it has this in it
sonic quest
Yea, i have that. This starts runelite in debug mode, but im still seeing a lot of debug logs not related to my plugin
rugged pivot
ah yeah it still shows core debugs but should exclude hub plugins
which are usually way worse
sonic quest
im seeing a lot of spam from OpenGL
Oh... well, i guess adding <logger name="net.runelite" level="WARN"/> to my logback test config removes nearly almost all unrelated logs 😮
rugged pivot
ah yeah that should work
actually not sure why the gradle run task has --debug as the logback-test is trying to set core to info and your plugin to debug and that overwrites it
low hatch
the most recent build.gradle should do that if you run the gradle run instead of...
Oh that's very helpful. Thanks.
bitter marten
whats the rough time line for getting a plugin approved?
rugged pivot
days to weeks to years
wispy panther
whats the rough time line for getting a plugin approved?
I think they’re currently over loaded with updates and new plugins, I just refresh the PRs page like I’m tracking a package delivery 😂
bitter marten
I think they’re currently over loaded with updates and new plugins, I just refre...
haha basically been doing the same
bitter marten
is there a risk of using plugins in dev before they have been approved
rugged pivot
if they're not rulebreaking, no
bitter marten
sweet
glacial mulch
In the runelite PartyService or PartyMember is the displayName ever set (this should be the users discord handle right?), because the discord img is loaded when the user connects their discord
empty nexus
I've been looking at the docs but I haven't really found an answer to this, what is the runelite event bus used for and why should I use it? (Next to the onTick, onEvent and the other triggers ofcourse)
thorn grotto
events come from the event bus
restive garnet
Basically if you want to react to pretty much anything that happens in-game, then you'll be using the event bus
iirc your plugin gets registered on the event bus at startup (but I may be wrong)
rustic canyon
Got a question regarding the Low Detail plugin.
Are there jagex limitation on including a text input to allow users to input their own gameobject ids they'd like to hide?
solid shadow
Having a user input IDs for anything is awful ux
restive garnet
https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/Rejected-or-Rolled-Back-Features includes a provision against ID-based plugins, which presumably includes a retrofit of an existing plugin to include them
rustic canyon
ok so they have to be hardcoded and not allow user input sounds good.
sonic quest
Hey again! I am wondering if there is an identifier to the signed in users which is fixed and does not change if the player changes their character name so that I can store some player related state (which does not get lost on name change)
bitter marten
are you still allowed to have features behind passwords like the coflipper plugin?
bitter marten
nah haha was more wondering about having a plugin made for commission, wondering what the best option for that is
upper valve
Hey again! I am wondering if there is an identifier to the signed in users which...
ConfigManager::getRSProfileConfiguration probably
sonic quest
That is fixed based on the character or on their runelite profile?
sonic quest
Ah I see. so its just a different method using the same interface getting the exact value im looking for. Thats perfect! Thanks 💕
solid shadow
nah haha was more wondering about having a plugin made for commission, wondering...
Keep in mind that someone could just fork it and remove the password stuff
bitter marten
Keep in mind that someone could just fork it and remove the password stuff
yeah didnt really think of that, got any ideas for protecting it, or should i just let them run it from dev mode on their comp?
restive garnet
What are you trying to protect
solid shadow
There isnt a way to protect it, but imo you shouldnt want to anyway
upper valve
yeah what just give them the plugin and have them pay you
bitter marten
i think end goal is free access plugin but they may just want to start a series first
restive garnet
There's been a couple of cases where a content creator has had something bespoke made, I know that much
solid shadow
Yeah they would just be running a shadowjar or running from source
restive garnet
I can't see any plugin ever making it to the hub that does nothing without some password being provided to it
bitter marten
I can't see any plugin ever making it to the hub that does nothing without some ...
yeah totally understand that
topaz pierBOT
Run gradle shadowJar to generate a runnable jar in build/libs/*-all.jar. You can run the jar with java -jar -ea jarName.jar. If you run into problems, update build.gradle to the latest plugin template version.
solid shadow
I think its that
bitter marten
sweet
ember flareBOT
bitter marten
whats the best solution for a client to run the shadow jar without making them get an ide?
bitter marten
allows loading into jagex accounts?
rancid marten
there isnt a good way to distribute custom builds to people who also have a jagex account
you could tell them to do the --insecure-write-credentials thing
topaz pierBOT
Place the files for the feature you want in %userprofile%\.runelite on Windows or ~/.runelite/ on Linux/OSX
The names and type for the files are:
- Custom cursor:
cursor.png - Custom default notification sound:
notification.wav - Custom specific notification sound:
<name>.wavin.runelite/notifications, then select<name>in the notification sound dropdown - Custom login screen:
login.pngImage size 765 x 503 recommended, larger images will be (simply) scaled down automatically.
rancid marten
can someone move this^ to the wiki and then also add the new font stuff and then also update /custom to point to the wiki?
oak rock
after lunch i can look into it
rancid marten
ty
wind fjord
@upper valve apologies for tagging you.
Im guessing you kinda remember my name from the PRs, but im the publisher of Choicer plugin.
Id like to ask to disable/remove it from pluginhub
upper valve
sure, just submit a PR that adds a line disabled=at author's request to the manifest file
wind fjord
(thats the runelite-plugin.properties right ? sorry)
rugged pivot
the hub manifest file
upper valve
no the choicer file in the plugin hub
wind fjord
thank you!
ember flareBOT
rancid marten
nice
flat furnace
Are there any issues with a feature of a plugin being dependent on another plugin being installed?
reef badger
probably not since lots of plugins have shortest path integration?
flat furnace
ty
oak rock
as long as thats communicated well
flat furnace
To the other plugin maintainer, or user?
neon haven
wonder how many are like that, how many would there need to be to consider a "dependsOn" in the runelite-plugin.properties
oak rock
To the other plugin maintainer, or user?
user
snow needle
Is it possible for my plugin to use RuneLite account to authenticate with my server? Is there some way for my server to verify the auth token? Do any plugins do this already?
amber rampart
no
snow needle
Is there any possibility of that ever happening?
rotund pier
Is it possible for my plugin to use RuneLite account to authenticate with my ser...
probably the best form of an identity you can grab would be at a runescape account level (acccountHash), which wouldn't be really secure / might not fit what you want but figured I'd share it anyways just in case : )
amber rampart
its technically possible, but I don't think we would really want to do that
snow needle
probably the best form of an identity you can grab would be at a runescape accou...
In what way is it not secure?
rotund pier
there's no way for your server to verify that the user who claims to be some player is actually that player, could just spoof account hash technically
snow needle
So it's spoofable in the same way any token based auth is spoofable?
snow needle
Ahh. Is it effectively private though? Beyond other plugins exfiltrating it
amber rampart
correct
ember flareBOT
rancid marten
You can just check .contains()
ember flareBOT
twin rover
@reef badger my git finally passed the inital tests, just wanted to say thanks for the help ❤️
novel stirrup
I just wanted to check on the rules around menu entry swapping, in relation to a plugin PR we just received. The proposed feature would change the modify/abort menu entries on GE slots, based on data sent from a server which is doing market analysis. Would this be allowed?
I've been told that there are already plugins which swap menu entries based on the region you are in, so there is some precedent for conditional menu entry swapping.
bitter marten
are we allowed to change the skull cosmetics?
rose void
https://github.com/runelite/runelite/commit/cf73aed83ca12e2f92009690c3360ebd2e1a31ef
When is this change slated to release? I got a report about better npc highlight crashing with latest upstream changes when using the outline highlight. I'm guessing because it changed from npc to actor.
I won't have PC access until next week after today, so if this is releasing soonish I need to know to make sure the plugin isn't broken for an extended period
sinful lava
I just wanted to check on the rules around menu entry swapping, in relation to a...
that feels different than menu-entry-swapping based on region to me, so I'd definitely question that change if it came to the plugin hub review queue
oak rock
https://github.com/runelite/runelite/commit/cf73aed83ca12e2f92009690c3360ebd2e1a...
next RL release, which typically follows the jagex game update on wednesday, but only if the game update does something rl needs to release for
rose void
next RL release, which typically follows the jagex game update on wednesday, but...
What would the fix pattern for this even look like? We would need a function overload that still accepts npc and is marked deprecated
oak rock
cast the actor to npc?
rose void
Otherwise I can't fix until it's already broken
rose void
cast the actor to npc?
My point is I can't push a fix until it's broken
Not how to do it
solid shadow
you can submit an update and we can just mark it as hold for release
rose void
Alright will do
rose void
set version to latest.integration
based on current experience and past conversations I found in this discord this does not work. You need to use "{build number}-SNAPSHOT"
sinful lava
latest.integration does work to test it locally, if you want to test an unreleased build
rose void
that worked, and looks like it targeted the latest snapshot
workaround was to look at all the snapshots latest.snapshot downloaded and manually type the newest one. same result but annoying that it had to download a few 100 snapshots
sinful lava
i think latest.snapshot just isn't a thing, so it goes searching for things that do exist
oak rock
oh, oopsie
rose void
I dont even know what the reported issue actually was I guess because npc already extends actor, so nothing is broken as far as i can tell.
solid shadow
they might be running the latest snapshot and applying the hub from the previous version, which isnt very compatible if theres api changes 
rose void
I cant find the guy who opened the issue to tag him here so hopefully he responds to the issue. is the maker of the potion storage customizer plugin
native harbor
(This was accidentally sent in General Chat - My Apologies! - Reposting here!)
I've been working on this Plugin for RuneLite for several months now. It has a party hub built into it, that connects to the same client-side backend, utilizing all the same feature types as Hub Party Panel/PartyService - My original Plugin idea which has been taking me several months to develop has been very tiring, with working a fulltime job 100+ hrs every two weeks.
I was thinking that the Party panel portion of it might be better suited as an improved update to the existing RuneLite PartyService Plugin, and was wondering if this is an option?
I don't like feeling as if I am stepping on anyones toes, regardless of whether or not it's public access
The Plugin party portion I refer to as "RaidParty" which obviously can be utilized for bossing as well. There are three fundamental reasons why I built RaidParty from the ground up rather than just slipping a PR into StonedTurtle's plugin.
1: Combined Party creation and Party Inspection into a single interface - Currently, users are forced to use two separate plugins taking up two sidebar menu slots. RaidParty absorbs the passphrase generation, joining, and leaving mechanic directly into the inspection panel.
2: RaidParty is also an inspection and communication tool, setting apart from Hub Party Panel which is only an inspection tool. - TheStonedTurtle's plugin is really great, and used a lot when looking at what gear your party is wearing, stats, inventory, etc, but that the entire scope. RaidParty introduces an entire suite of PvM communication tools. Such as:
-- 3D Ping System (Customizable): Safe, Caution, Danger markers hotkey placed for quick communication on tiles in the world natively synced across the party. Can also be enabled/disabled
-- Audio-Cues (Customizable): Can also be enabled/disabled
-- Hotkey Communication (Customizable): Overhead chat messages which bypass the standard chatbox broadcast. An entire mapping of hotkeys, 3d world overlays, and sound injections into StoneTurtle's plugin would bloat it way beyond its initial intended purpose.
3: A significantly flatter focused UI: Focuses entirely on fast-paced raiding/bossing, the codebase strips out a lot of the visual fluff and nested scrollbars. It's a UI that focuses on hotkey setups and instant communication readouts natively alongside the core stats [hp/prayer/spec/etc] rather than just being a passive viewer
worthy sparrow
What are audio cues
native harbor
When the ping hotkey is activated - It utilizes sounds, much like the native Party plugin does, straight from those by Jagex. these can be turned off of course.
It's much like raiding or bossing - Some people play OSRS without any sound at all and focuses solely on visual queues, whereas others in raids or bossing focuses on audio cues to know when to pray, move, etc. These function much in the same manner.
thorn grotto
you might want to call that ping sound
native harbor
Yes, of course, lol. In the plugin they are Ping Sounds, I was just trying to explain it. Thank you.
worthy sparrow
We have a pr open for pings I think
Oh I guess we have that already, sorry I don't have friends
native harbor
Ron, the native pings are cool, but they are strickly menu-entry based and only draw a basic colored square on the floor. Which I am not downplaying at all.
In high-level pvm (and even in low-level for those learning) nobody really has time to right-click through menus. RaidParty binds 3 entirely different semantic pings (Safe/Caution/Danger) directly to keyboard hotkeys so they can be dropped in a single frame(tick) while running, etc. It also explicitly hooks into the audio engine so your team hears the ping type without looking, and supports hooking directly into moving NPC's. It's built for pvm speed, not just marking a tile before a fight starts.
rugged pivot
menus?
native harbor
I was misinformed then. May I show a demonstration?
native harbor
Stand-by...
rancid marten
I dont even know what the reported issue actually was I guess because npc alread...
You shouldn’t need to make any changes
native harbor
Snipping not recording audio - give me a moment, I apologize....
These ping sounds are fully customizable and can be turned off. Along with the 3d model above the pinged tiles.
worthy sparrow
this pr covers that I believe https://github.com/runelite/runelite/pull/15721
native harbor
I want to also state that originally - I was creating an entire ecosystem plugin on my flask backend for a Raid/Boss LFG. In hopes to eliminate discord LFGing completely. The pinging/com system was just an addition to this all-in-one queue plugin. I only recently put this idea on the backburner, and decided to reach out to StonedTurtle about integrating my system into this, where he recommended I reach our to Runelite and see if they would rather do it instead.
Therefore, I am not specifically here to debate or argue for my RaidParty plugin to be approved, but rather to see if it can be utilized as an update to the prexisting one.
stuck shale
this pr covers that I believe https://github.com/runelite/runelite/pull/15721
wow thats cool
worthy sparrow
it needs some tlc
native harbor
The wheel idea.. Yeah, I will admit that crossed my mind originally.. When I first began this queue system a couple months ago, I originally made it a right-click option, then a wheel option, then to a hotkey.
I've seen the pr 15721 and while the ping wheel is really cool for casual, slow planning, it inherently conflicts with fast-paced or high-end pvm.
-- Input speed (mouse/keyboard) pr 15721 requires the user to stop their mouse movement, hold shift, right-click, and drag through a radial menu. You're not doing that in an intense raid, your mouse is your most valuabnle asset. RaidParty completely decouples pings from the mouse menu.
native harbor
It apparently also needs tlc >.>
worthy sparrow
which is just rebasing and replying to feedback
restive garnet
I for one would be concerned that such a plugin could be used to do indicators of the Sotetseg path for party members (which would be bad™), but idk if even the ping functions work there
rugged pivot
we already have ping. If its not an issue there already, why would this make it one?
restive garnet
I guess it's somewhat offset by also having to do the mechanic, plus the slightly delayed nature...
rugged pivot
the mazes are separate, it doesnt work there
restive garnet
the mazes are separate, it doesnt work there
I was not aware of this, consider my concern quashed 😄
native harbor
Ron... It's good that those fuctions were added to that pr (15721), solved the APM issue, but... That actually higlights exactly why RaidParty is it's own plugin. That pr only solves one tiny slice. RP is not just a pinging tool. It's a complete pvm coordination suite. It merges everything into one, lightweight side-panel without bloating the client with multiple plugins to effectively function doing a raid or boss for example. Instead of users having to download and manage 3-4 separate plugins to get their group together, etc.
Psyche,
I've heard that actually and I have discussed it on my community discord, where months ago I originally started developing the queue plugin (as we're a raid/boss (pvm) community. It was considered when building this because jagex's strict ToS regarding the SOTE. To answer your qestion... It CANNOT be abused for SOTE.
1: Hotkeys - The plugin doesn't read world data to autodraw paths. The only way to generate a ping is by a player physically moving their mouse over a specific tile and pressing a hotkey. I don't think this can be possibly done fast enough.
2: The pings decay after 4secs (currently) there is no line drawing or to make it perm.
I was also going to type out what Hannah already stated.
worthy sparrow
What is happening
native harbor
I was finally replying to your statements earlier, but extended to after reading more feedback.
I can send much smaller sentences instead of paragraphs if that helps.
rugged pivot
you can make whatever hub plugin you want
restive garnet
Some people like to get a feel for whether things will get rejected before they start 🙂
native harbor
You're not wrong Psyche.. I'm certainly not one that want's to waste my time. However, I think Ron is being negative instead of understanding my initial reason for even bringing the idea here.
worthy sparrow
oh they are replying to your username, thought this was some high level conversation
restive garnet
Sorry for my choice of name, Ron 😄
native harbor
I wanted to present my idea, that although has functions that are similair to those that have been implimented elsewhere. I was requesting or otherwise asking, if I might be able to present it as a potential update to the preexisting native party plugin, rather than it being a standalone possibility.
rugged pivot
what exactly do you want to add to the native party plugin? Because the overall raid plugin you're describing is not appropriate for the core client
native harbor
I apologize if I don't understand why it's not appropriate for the core client - Assuming it's too comprehensive for the basic client. I was looking to see if the team was interested in mering the inspection profiles, hotkeys, audio, and highspeed pings directly into the party plugin. Since comprehensive raid features are not appropriate for the vanilla client, I will happily pivot this into a dedicated, standalone plugin for the plugin hub..... Thanks for the clarification...
lavish ice
it would be fine for core content but nowadays it is preferred to make a hub plugin instead
the contextual pings looked interesting
rugged pivot
the party stuff might be fine, I'm referring to this stuff as being hub plugin:
I was creating an entire ecosystem plugin on my flask backend for a Raid/Boss LFG. In hopes to eliminate discord LFGing completely.
rugged pivot
though re-reading you did say that was backburner
native harbor
Yes, that's my original development. (still developing...)
These features that I have been discussing was a core feature in my original development.
But I have been spending months with the queue system, and I am tired... it's functioning, but I also have to eliminate abuse, etc, and so many other things that I just got tired.
So, I went to TheStonedTurtle with my core features within my queue system plugin and asked him if he wanted to update his plugin with them. He told me to come to you guys instead.
rugged pivot
I will say it takes a lot longer for stuff to get into the core client (tending towards infinite time 😂) if the thing being changed is not actively broken currently
would need a green name to say if they will ever have any interest in looking at it
native harbor
Yes, the native party service isn't broken. I just figured instead of users having to bloat their client with plugins. Maybe my idea can be integrated instead to "spruce up" /update the non-broken native party with features that will ultimately change raiding and bossing for the better.
lavish ice
the contextual pings i see it being more likely getting into core, the grouping system i don't, sadly
native harbor
Unfortunately, I have not spoken to Adam is over 6 years. So, I am not sure how long it might taken, but if there was absolutely no interest, I would even take a "hell no" and I will just upload it for pending approval as a standalone
lavish ice
doesn't mean you can't make your phub plugin!
native harbor
It's complicated to explain. I can understand that my queue system would probably never be considered, let alone read, haha! I cloned my entire core features, pings, etc, and created a standalone already (locally)
So, while although it still exists in the queue system, it also exists outside of it.
I've never though about creating a plugin or anything until near the beginning of this year. In the mean time, I will upload it to the hub and wait for a green name XD - I really appreciate all ya'lls input. I will still respond to any questions or anything of course. Thank you.
spare phoenix
in the var inspector, is there any way to hide the vars related to time, like DATE_SECONDS_PAST_MINUTE
sinful lava
in the var inspector, is there any way to hide the vars related to time, like `D...
Not specifically like that, but you can blocklist individual vars by their ID. The right sidebar of the var inspector has that functionality
spare phoenix
Not specifically like that, but you can blocklist individual vars by their ID. T...
is there a setting somewhere i need to turn on or something?
i can't see anywhere on this that'd let me block things on the right
sinful lava
oh sorry, I'm thinking about the script inspector
spare phoenix
currently hunting down varbits to do with various completion things. currently just a bit annoying having to sift through all of these basically
sinful lava
Not really as clean of an alternative, but I made the Action Logger https://runelite.net/plugin-hub/show/action-logger plugin on the plugin hub kinda for this purpose, for hunting down varbits related to quests when doing quest helper work.
It writes all varbit changes to a JSON file you can then filter through with jq or some other editor
granite quest
in the var inspector, is there any way to hide the vars related to time, like `D...
You’ll need to add that functionality yourself 😥. I threw something together to filter/block/highlight stuff in the var inspector similar to the script inspector.
sonic quest
Hey! is there an easy way to detect if a player is a bank area?
quick path
no
sonic quest
Ah, that is a slight bummer. Then I'll have to map them out myself
upper valve
https://www.githubstatus.com/ 
again it seems
was having issues w/ push at work just now though it seems it worked eventually
restive garnet
someone vibe coding their prod configs again huh
hollow stratus
fwiw the screenshot button on the top bar doesn't work like this, idk if that wo...
Got it fixed. It was a simple change updating the mouse listener for the plugin panel from mouseClicked() to mousePressed(). This leaves the current configuration alone for mouseClicked() behavior when opening plugin panels requiring a press and release.
Regarding what ron said just below: "plugin buttons can also have a right click menu iirc". It appears so and I haven't seen any plugins that utilize this, yet.
I've made it so right clicking anywhere on the plugin bar brings up the reset popup menu. Just to be safe, it respects any plugin buttons' popup menus if they have one.
Curious on the consensus for the behavior of the menu appearing. Recording of current behavior attached.
upper grove
i hope the reset order click shows a confirmation popup :D
it looks nice so far
worthy sparrow
Got it fixed. It was a simple change updating the mouse listener for the plugin ...
There are hub plug-ins with it
hollow stratus
There are hub plug-ins with it
I figured as such, seems super handy for implementing some quick access features. I'll take a look through plugin hub to see what some implementations look like. if you have any plugins that you know of that implement this, that would be handy
worthy sparrow
spare phoenix
You’ll need to add that functionality yourself 😥. I threw something together to...
ah, that is not something i have any idea how to do. shame :/
hollow stratus
i hope the reset order click shows a confirmation popup :D
it looks nice so far
Just added for you
rose void
there was a question earlier about some authentication stuff in plugins. semi related-ish, setting secret = true on a config item stars it out in the plugin settings, but still stores it plaintext. is there any use for that (or a new property) that makes the config store encrypted at rest?
Im not sure what plugins use that property right now, and what they use it for (maybe ive seen one that asks for an api token to somewhere?), but my thinking is it could prevent someone from accidentally leaking something if they share their config for debug purposes or example
rancid marten
I think its only used for the twitch plugin
its just to avoid sharing oauth tokens on stream really
rose void
fair enough, if that is all it is meant for
thats what i get for opening vscode right after work. i work in identity so brain is still in that mode
granite quest
@tulip wagon is this the appropriate channel to ping you for sailing plugin? I'm interested in contributing to fix some edge cases and add some of the suggestions to achieve parity(as much as possible) with the mobile jagex app.
tulip wagon
<@138318226181324800> is this the appropriate channel to ping you for sailing pl...
yep!
just note i'm pretty much mia until next week
low hatch
this pr covers that I believe https://github.com/runelite/runelite/pull/15721
😔 Stale
The timing of releasing GEX and (current feature of) Data-logger
sonic quest
Hi there, I was wondering what I can expect in terms of timeline for the review of my plugin I submitted last friday. Is there anything I can do to help making the review easier/faster? Not trying to push anything, as you'll are pretty swamped in submissions
sonic quest
Ooh definitely! Thats always step one of a PR ;p
I was thinking of adding documentation to the code with the intentions of what certain things should be doing (not what they are actually doing, thats in the written code itself)... Or anything that may help with readabilty of the code
But i dont know if that is helpfull to the reviews at all. Might be adding more bloat
reef badger
documentation is not relevant we review the code we can't take your word for what it does
otherwise that would defeat the purpose of reviewing
sonic quest
Sure! But I was more like; im new here - maybe what i intented to do, can be doing way easier
Maybe another question than ;p I tried some things starting my plugin using a Jagex account, but all failed attempts. I am currently using my old Rs3 account to sign in using username & password, but that limits my ability to correctly add functionality in the non-f2p areas.
Im starting the plugin using ./gradlew run
sonic quest
Yeah. I did that 🙁
Picked up _JAVA_OPTIONS: -Duser.home="/home/mhollink/snap/runelite/common"
2026-03-04 07:53:18 CET [AWT-EventQueue-0] ERROR n.runelite.launcher.LauncherSettings - unable to save launcher settings!
java.nio.file.AccessDeniedException: /home/mhollink/settings.json
is $HOME or $HOME/settings.json write-protected or not writable for your user?
sonic quest
I guess the file does not exist at all
$ ls -l settings.json
ls: cannot access 'settings.json': No such file or directory
amber rampart
probably snap being stupid or something
sonic quest
Yea, I am guessing the same. I'm going to try an see if i can get the appimage to work
$ ./RuneLite.AppImage --configure
2026-03-04 08:12:52 CET [AWT-EventQueue-0] ERROR n.runelite.launcher.LauncherSettings - unable to save launcher settings!
java.nio.file.FileSystemException: /tmp/.mount_RuneLiihPgNa/settings.json: Read-only file system
Welp...
Is there a way to dictate where the settings.json is read from?
amber rampart
I assume you are launching with bolt?
sonic quest
Never heared of bolt 😮 so if its a default thingy - maybe?
amber rampart
are you running the jagex launcher in wine?
sonic quest
I cant remember how I installed it, Was some time ago when Jagex accounts became a thing. I used something called a flatpack
But seeing some docs, I guess that might be Bolt
amber rampart
bolt screws with stuff so it doesn't really work right, you need to make bolt launch it with --configure
then copy the credentials.properties from wherever bolt makes runelite put it into the real ~/.runelite
sonic quest
Is there any source of information on how i can check if im running it via bolt? and if so, how to pass it the --configure flag?
amber rampart
does it say bolt or jagex launcher when you start bolt or the jagex launcher?
sonic quest
The panel title is Jagex Launcher
Also the launcher title itself is Jagex Launcher (just to not create confusion)
amber rampart
so you need to run the runelite from in wine in the flatpak I guess with --configure
or otherwise drop a settings.json in it's install dir
or otherwise find a way to steal its env vars
sonic quest
Ooh, i guess i found this:
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=Jagex Launcher
Comment=The Jagex Launcher is the new home for Jagex's PC games library. Discover, install, and play games from the RuneScape universe and beyond.
Terminal=false
Categories=Game;
Icon=com.jagex.Launcher
Exec=/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=/app/bin/launch.sh com.jagex.Launcher
X-Flatpak=com.jagex.Launcher
So i guess its run by using flatpack run ...
low hatch
Plugin spamming NPE post-sailing updating while on a boat
Check repo to see last commit is 4 years ago
Can't even open an issue
It's cooked 😔 I cba taking over it either
restive garnet
Sounds like the kind of plugin that should probably get disabled, but as long as it's not actively breaking the game it'll stay where it is 😄
amber rampart
I assume that is for removing the one from the aniversary event
or was unused anims that they are cleaning up
low hatch
Oh is that why we also removed them from the legacy NpcID? 🤔
low hatch
I assume that is for removing the one from the aniversary event
😔 Hopes and dreams shattered, thank you
fluid stump
SKILL GUIDES IN DB TABLES
I CAN REMOVE THE CS2 JANK
i presume my plugin about to break now
amber rampart
These plugins failed to build:
hunter-rumours odablock party-play unmutedjingles fixed-resizable-hybrid cox-scouter-external runelingual virtual-level-ups
@sand wing @stable mural @clever basin @fleet vine @misty meteor @quick path
fluid stump
Screenshot plugin has a error btw since varbit 9452 does not exist now
amber rampart
you are not using the release
ember flareBOT
lyric wasp
Is there a way to look at a TileItem and know reliably whether it's a mapped down item spawn, like Varrock leather body on a table? Wondering how feasible it is to crowdsource item spawns
worthy sparrow
why did they add background sprite you can't see? is it for locked skills?
fluid stump
its how they doing the glow i think 😆
dunno why they went with a glow and not a visible cycle like rs2 seems like a weird choice does not even look good imo
worthy sparrow
it's not visible at all tho
dusk ridge
i was wondering the same thing. why not just toggle a visibility rather than keeping a background sprite behind an always rendered sprite just so they can scale it outward when needed. like at least toggle vis for it too
rancid marten
why did they add background sprite you can't see? is it for locked skills?
are you looking at this interface styles thing?
fluid stump
ye why i said its weird they added just for "glow" defo bettr ways to do it
restive garnet
Jagex gotta Jagex
fluid stump
the rs2 one where it did a pulse was a lot better imo made more sense probs did it not to be like rs2 tho
restive garnet
iirc RS3 flashes the icon rather than applying a glow
fluid stump
ye been like that since early rs2 much better
autumn star
game jam quality
restive garnet
It's not bad, it's just different 🤷
dusk ridge
is it an actual glow? I just assumed they would lerp the scaling of the background sprite so it pulses out from behind
is there a reference anywhere of what its supposed to look like when it happens
fluid stump
It's not bad, it's just different 🤷
i think it looks rlly bad tbh
fluid stump
is it an actual glow? I just assumed they would lerp the scaling of the backgrou...
they just edit the main icon alpha pretty much
so show the under sprite
restive garnet
Yea, it's definitely one way to do it
dusk ridge
thats even worse imo lol
fluid stump
what it looks like visually anyways guess ill check cs2
worthy sparrow
you want to volunteer for the engine work
restive garnet
https://cdn.runescape.com/assets/img/external/oldschool/2026/Newsposts/2026-02-10/flashing.gif is the image they included in their news post
now you can see why interface styles broke 😄
dusk ridge
https://cdn.runescape.com/assets/img/external/oldschool/2026/Newsposts/2026-02-1...
meh. i think an outlined glow would look better
worthy sparrow
don't think cs2 can do that
dusk ridge
why dont they just ask chatGPT to make it in UE5
restive garnet
ok that image is triggering me, the Prayer icon is also using the effect but it's out of sync with the rest
and not as bright
dusk ridge
i bet the pulsing timer starts on the level up tick instead of an in sync clock
upper grove
unplayable
restive garnet
i bet the pulsing timer starts on the level up tick instead of an in sync clock
in what world would you level Attack, Runecrafting, Herblore, Fletching, Mining, Cooking and Sailing in the same tick? 😄
worthy sparrow
you could just time the ticks in cycle
restive garnet
I suppose, but this is funnier
dusk ridge
in what world would you level Attack, Runecrafting, Herblore, Fletching, Mining,...
they prob did that example in a dev env
but say you level attack, then 3t later level hitpoints. now u got two glows offset by 3t. assuming thats what happens
restive garnet
Sadly I don't have a noob account I can test that theory on atm
worthy sparrow
eh, they aren't even solid yellow images
rugged pivot
they also do this if you're not on the skills tab and I hate it a lot https://i.guardian-bs.fun/image/d8290691-2815-457a-aaab-c1cc0eed7d2a.gif
worthy sparrow
interface styles disable glow option????