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only take, no give
when the emp strikes, I shall still have internet then! /s

I wish I had some more screenshots
I have a bunch starting from when we added the screenshot plugin
... obviously
but that wasnt til Feb 2018
I did a barrows run to test if it worked
bank loot
cuz the item container is empty
orly
ye
i havent done it in a long time
since i did all the barrows infobox stuff like a year ago
so maybe someone put a check on it by now
that's weird, that's the same icon npc dialogue uses
the box is the notes plugin
Oh that was the feed plugin
i see 
which is from 1.2.19
alright after using it a few times i really like the live data --- i doubt it will effect flipping negatively in any way
thanks cook & others
Yeh i think it's great
but I thought that update was the death of flipping
man, cook should ruin flipping forever, more often
if Cook is literally the devil then hail satan
Only took 8 hours to come to that conclusion 
thought about adding 'real time price lookup' to the grand excange plugin in runelite?
long time coming
definitely glad the wiki team is handling the data, if anyone can put it to good use, it's them
it's coming soon @austere prawn
I think they were asking thoughts about it since they've already voiced their displeasure in this channel earlier
@inland shadow its not so bad tbh, been flipping all day still managed to make 30+m seems pretty handy, margins are dying faster than normal tho but adapt and improve i guess
yeah that seems to be how a lot of people have felt over the course of the day lol
do you still have your firewall enabled?
!dev you will have to compile the client yourself for that though
:u
Sup๐ฉ
Have you got the Bright textures option enabled?
Do you guys know of a way to change the color of "Walk Here" on the right click menu?
did the rockcake swapper get removed
nope
that won't do anything
@modern vessel if you're using NMZ Utilities, it was removed from that as its now an option in Menu Entry Swapper I believe
my graph is better https://i.imgur.com/yoJZPrv.png
As Hannah mentioned the rock cake is no longer in the nmz utilities as itโs part of the main menu entry swapper plugin (itโs been in the main client since mid December)
So instead of having it twice, I deleted mine.
and broke everything briefly
different plugin
shh
is that GME lol
yes
You invested?
vnice
I'm in a whatsapp group with my old boss, he lost so much money on it
Last 24 hours have been a rollercoaster for him
did he panic sell
It was a classic pump n dump
not a loss until he sells
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No he's still in
hoooold
Got another friend in that group who is stereotypical paper hands
I use it to beat him at poker
He lost about $7k
lmao
Dang
mine is dbones
People who call people paper hands when they cashed out making money is silly tho
think the actual wsb crew only celebrate those people
i saw a few threads during the original drama about people cashing out 60k and stuff, paying off debts
no hate in those comments
I call people paper hands if they cashed out at $45 after buying in above that because of fear
I had thought that it was going back down to 4 dollars where it belongs
see it doesnt actually belong that low
If they transition to a retro gaming place and evolve, no they donโt
But if they continue to try to compete with Amazon and Best Buy for selling games. Yes.
It was never worth $4
Is the point of the squeeze
Enormous short positions artificially deflate the price of a stock
In July 2019 it was 4 bucks a share
What was the short % in July 2019 tho
I donโt know and donโt care
But they are shorted because their company has no value unless they actively evolve
Obviously enough apes can change the value of it
Lol
dfv didn't buy in and start this whole thing because of apes tho lol
but because they're showing signs of evolving
The company isn't valueless or bankrupt
I never said he did. He had the stocks long time ago believing they would change it around
They employ 14k people
You're right that they would trend downwards without innovation
No one's arguing that
from what i read based on his congress testimony thing, it seems that he thought gamestop would pivot/start doing better
but there wasnt necessarily anything but a gut feeling
But it's oversimplification to claim they're already there
And that shorts of this nature aren't predatory
this second spike is because they just made a commitment to e-commerce transformation
And they fired the cfo that runs companies into the ground
Like I believe they can survive
But if they stayed the same game stop since Xbox one launch
They wouldnโt exist.
Simple as that
Bet he has some spicy connections to Citadel 
And Iโm not arguing they should be bankrupt
But Iโm saying that they still likely not a 15 dollar stock
Imo
But not 4
Uh idk
in normal terms, the difference between 4 and 10 is enormous
4 is maybe too low but 10 is far too high
When ever this gme hype goes away we will know true value
Yea I'm waiting to see what happens lol
I don't think they'll survive long term but they're not done yet
They were shorted only because of the previous trend set forth was that they were becoming obsolete as Amazon became the Goliath
Also curious to see the outcome of AMC's use of the bubble
Shorting is fine, but when you're shorting 130% of the value of a company to drive it into an early grave at the cost of 14k jobs it gets kinda shady
And you cause months of market insanity apparently
I'm sticking to my renewables and minerals ๐
Fortunately I think once movies become a thing again there will be a giant surge of growth but when people remember that people are annoying, cough too much and take off their shoes during a movie, stocks and movies will go do to normal. Also Warner bros is commiting to movies straight to streaming on their platform similar to Disney is
people are starting to spread the message
flippers aren't people
imagine being being so selfish as to take away from the community just to try and hold on to personal gains
smh my head
mr rogers rolling in his grave smh
smh my head? lmao
yup, smh my head
oh no
guess you'll have to get better then
Lmao
This dude's already checking sites using wiki price api
So as much as he's complaining he's dead set on profiting with it
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And initial response from flippers is somewhat positive as it's apparently faster to find margins now
and when the price data is added to the GE plugin they'll be making their own lives harder having to keep checking sites instead of the plugin
And this is why he's already asked for it to be included in another plugin instead
So he can avoid being tracked while still utilizing the data
mhm
Don't think of flippers as being like l0nkz guys
Most of em are taking this in a much more level-headed way
dw we don't, we know he's a special snowflake
there were around 3-4 people complaining about it
out of what, 120k that are currently using runelite
so...
Yeah me too lol
But muh "it was the best money maker now it's dead"
There's suddenly never going to be 1m+ spreads on elys or whatever
Because obviously it's traded 1000 times an hour
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@soft bobcat one of the best runelite developers is already ahead of you. he is adding all this to his amazing flipping utils plugin
lol
I like how you say that when that same plugin has broken the experience for so many users ever since it was created due to weird side effects
fake news
demonstrably not fake
performance issues, crashes, random core features not working, entirely due to that plugin
I bet l0nkz doesnt even flip things at all and hes just found a new thing to complain to us about :p
you've driven me to this
not surprised that you can't understand the joke, there aren't any margins on it
dont compare the average flipper with l0nkz tho pls
we know
decent flippers will find a way, good data can be used for other strategies
@sacred spindle i am in your community
with @soft bobcat
yeah that doesnt mean I have to agree with you ๐
imagine bragging about being the toxic part of a community lol
you've made your point, you're not happy about it
hannah is literally trying to destroy us
Then you must've really made her pissed lol
always got to be a fight, us vs them
always gotta demonise the enemy
i don't make any decisions here
is there any way to hide members worlds in the world switcher
I think there's an option in the plugin
in the sidebar one yes, not the ingame one
ok thanks
I think it's good that way
stronger side wins
nah, it just breeds hatred
I assure you that you have more authority than me
that's not difficult tho
you can't protect what you love without hatred
you can
pretty easily
hell, you're more likely to do a better job if you're not imagining fake evils and demons to fight
adam just called the code dumpster fire
because it is
because Adam has better things to do
why don't you fix it?
the onus is on Hub plugin creators to fix their own crap
i don't know how any of this works
Adam has the entire core client to worry about
I don't do work for people because they bitch at me
you need to reevaluate what you are doing
i think its sad that you called the top 10 plugin dumpster
popularity doesn't mean it's well done
people blame the entirety of RL for a bad external plugin
see: any big piece of software used by millions that doesn't work properly
nice
if its so bad why do you let the plugin in the hub?
wrong channel, you want #runescape
all the hub requires is the plugin doesn't break Jagex rules, and the code isn't malicious
mb
i receive a lot of hate for gatekeeping runelite, even though it is mine, and so the pluginhub is a way to offset that
so... why would i also then gatekeep that
given how bad some of these hub plugins get, I wouldn't mind seeing some gatekeeping if it can be proven a plugin causes enough issues
has a hub plugin ever been removed due to being garbage
id rather not unless its mass-crashing clients
i dont think so
weve discussed removing flipping utils before
since it generates so much #support traffic
they are making a huge update that adds a website leaderboard
The hell does a flipping tool need a leaderboard for
he listens to the community
yeah, haven't seen any related problems in a while
Ok but you didn't listen to the question
The hell does a flipping tool need a leaderboard for
I'd argue that those server a purpose of tracking xp over time, which vanilla doesn't allow you to do without copious spreadsheets
but they also enable friendly competitions/community hiscores
which emulate the vanilla hiscores using this new data
or providing new angles that vanilla can't provide
Seems like a pointless thing to disable it since whoever is buying from u and selling to u will have it enabled anyway with how popular runelite is
No but you see if he does enough fear mongering then theres a chance the other side doesn't have it on and that he can keep his l33t flips going longer
i just hope gamersriseup impresses adam and hydrox with his new code
Just gonna have to adapt bro
git gud
props for being a good sport
Melon is a whale he is not your average flipper
A lot of noobs will join the market now, just changes methods for merching for bigger profits
I think the main concern would be the API feeding bots
bots could already do this kind of stuff, and a large farm could already share the information
there is a new plugin that detects bots
I dont think it would work with ge bots since they're mostly level 3's. Doesnt that plugin use hiscores and boss kc's?
oh ok
oh yeah, this guy has a hardon for that plugin too
what happens with that data?
does the owner report them or is there some sort of collab with anti cheating?
i think he just sends them to tipoff@jagex
@zealous nova can you explain please
Is there anywhere else he posts this data?
Right so what it does is it asks for player names which then get sent through the hiscores - used to initially train a grouping algorithm which prelabels the data into specific groups, and then uses that data to train a KNN classifier which can be used right now in game! You can right-click 'detect' players with the latest update and see what groups they belong to ๐ I'll have to change the group IDs to strings, but atm it functions as expected.
ty!
Once i'm done with this mlm thing I'll show you an example at edgeville furnace
Is there any way you could list those accounts somewhere
Or keep track if jagex is taking care of them
Yeah in the future I'll have that as a possibility, but the project is still in development
kk omw to edgeville furnace rn for a good example
Exciting stuff lol, any idea when that kind of thing would be possible?
Not sure atm ๐ just trying to make sure it's perfect before moving onto other steps, I want to add a heatmap + other things as well
Interesting
Does it recognise iron status?
sec there's like no one on this world
i'll have to hop to another one
but yeah as you can see everyone in edgeville furnace with the same account build is being grouped the same
these players aren't known to the system so their stats are being looked up on the hiscores - and then run through the training dataset
How strict is the grouping for the accounts
k = 5, evaluates the nearest 5 accounts to the point which is generally considered strict.
Could it scrape the data exclusively through the highscores instead?
Generally more useful to only scrape active accounts anyway
What if you were to pinpoint it at a specific task or highscore
Could i talk with you in DMs
sorry these worlds are basically dead rn or I'd be dumping group 144s everywhere lol
yeah generally only most useful to scrape active accounts
but you can definitely look it up in the DB for active accounts or specific tasks
the output of group ID/condition is the most useful thing here
Can I subscribe to a weekly newsletter of the weirdest account builds
omg I should have that
oh and to answer your question, it doesn't care if an account is iron or not btw but they'd be grouped with other irons
if they're on the hiscores, they can be grouped
Yeah was just curious if it accounted for it at all
So you could like compare different ultimates or whatever
oo yeah that's 100% possible
Hi guys, can someone help me : it has been a month now that my runelite client won't lauch and says : RuneLite has encountered an unexpected error during startup. And don(t know if there is a like but i changed my hard drive recently. A have tried multiples times reinstaling it ... thanks in advance
good idea if the name is stored and cant be search anymore then = banned
Yeah we can try something like that ๐
when is the next update
when jagex breaks something
already is
I wonder if ge tracker will start using the RL data
Or if they have some sort of contract with osb
probably already working on it
osbuddy has 3555 open clients atm, I dont think any form of contract makes up for that small of a sample size
it just happened to be the only source til now
Just yesterday runelite announced it would be partnering with the OSRS wiki to release accurate trade data from the grand exchange. This is huge news for anyone who is into flipping. This will mark a big change, and will increase the accuracy of the data tremendously.
Today I wanted to talk about how this will affect flipping and give you my op...
Correct lol
Updates are going out as fast as they can be produced tbh - planning on sending out a patch shortly to allow people to turn off the send notification + manually search names.
Since RuneLite is tracking real time prices, would it be possible to have the sidebar Grand Exchange search plugin use those prices instead of the GE ones it currently shows? O_)O
also hey Ferrariic o/
yes
thats being worked on by adam currently
damn I was too slow
I'm legit super hyped for that, thank you!! ๐
heey, I know that you can toggle to hide all npcs but is it possible to somehow just choose a few to hide and have the rest visible?
no
cook ha fatto un errore e ha rovinato il flipping per tutti
I don't think a lot of people here speak Italian so stick to English
wrong server lol
Multilingual trolling
Now that 2007wiki has Runelite api for GE tracking price updates, will ge-tracker adopt this? I've wanted this for 2 years, feel like merching clans just use OSBuddy to manipulate pricing.
up to ge-tracker
nothing stops them from changing to it since the api is publicly available
I hope they make moves and stop being bought out by merching clans - Just my theory of course lol
I think the wiki was also considering some interesting stuff to do with it
how do you cope with answering the same questions all day
Damn sorry if I'm asking the same question lol
wdym l0nkz?
non importa, dimentichiamolo
I still dont speak italian btw
that is cheating
So i just installed runelite and logged in but when i go fullscreen the screen stay very small I already did this: https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/Change-DPI-Scaling-(Windows) but it did not work
you mean ingame is very small?
Did you enable resizable mode ingame?
Its in preferences in game
is it in the display menu?
yes
does this mean wiki price will replace the osbuddy price on the ge panel?
Yes
Cook is helping us
hopefully it will all be ok
Can I ask anyone something โdevelopmentโ related?
?
Couple updates from now actually. I'll let you know when that's out!
Hey :D
I am thankful that you joined the runelite plugin team
you truly make runelite a better place. I can't wait when you defeat all the bots
โค๏ธ
anyone having issues with their anti-drag not working today?
what plugin is it that allows for shift click to change the bank withdraw amount
https://youtu.be/a2Q9ta3eglQ?t=76 like this (1:16)
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Menu entry swapper
any tips for praying against jad?
do it
any mods on?
is there any way to show item prices when you hover over them
Turn on the Item Prices plugin.
Go into the Item Prices settings and make sure hide tooltips on inventory items isn't checked.
thanks
got wyvernmountr
@zealous nova on your github it says "Highlight players that have already been scanned in-game" would it be possible to make all detected bots look like bob?
how did i end up here lmao
you clicked the discord icon on runelite?
I don't think that's an allowed feature.
But still, that wouldn't be a goal sorry
With the new ge price tracker, I thought that runelite wouldn't be having any price tracking due to market manipulation or something like that?
we're not handling that, the Wiki is
and they're confident that they can do it correctly
@zealous nova
Is the pricing api not being updated something from the runelite side, or the wiki side?
The api for the items has no updates as of roughly an hour ago
Ex: https://prices.runescape.wiki/osrs/5m?id=2
The last timestamp is 1615381800
wiki has not sent us any messages, so i'd assume its wiki
iirc their api docs do say it may go down or be slow etc
Makes sense
I'm surprised it took this long to slow down! It's been insanely accurate for the last few days
they might just be doing some updates
or maybe they are affected by the fact that a big data center in france burnt down
Yea I saw about OVH, but I don't think it's related as the data's last update was 1h ago, and that fire was ~11h ago
We'll see whenever they get back online!
That's great! I've been yearning for a more accurate price checker since osbuddy is going down the brink with their player numbers. So does this make it harder for price manipulation since there is a larger pool of people?
Yeah, the reason we never did it is we weren't confident we could prevent price manipulation without requiring an insane amount of effort and time constantly. The wiki people seem to be confident that they can do that, and overall it's their system
I can't say anything more simply because I don't know
eventually though, these prices will come to the RL client, replacing the Jagex prices we currently use in plugins
and happily, we can yeet the single line in the client that has OSB prices, since they're well and truly useless now
How do i invite a friend to a runelite party
!party
ah yes, we are publishing prices via the wiki
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oh god they have fake smooth scrolling ๐คข
why are they choosing to still keep osbuddy pricing as well and display it separately
it needs to die already
why are you asking in here? ask them
they said they are keeping osbuddy data to fill in the void for previous data of such items and there could be a whole secret flipping community still remaining on osb
Yeah I have to update the server handling requests
@zealous nova did I find a bot?
Nah the server works but the player doesn't show up on the hiscores so they can't be evaluated
Their levels are too low to be decided
#support Hi guys, can someone help me : it has been a month now that my runelite client won't lauch and says : RuneLite has encountered an unexpected error during startup. And don(t know if there is a like but i changed my hard drive recently. A have tried multiples times reinstaling it ... thanks in advance
click open logs, upload launcher.log and client.log here
anyone know if you can configure where screenshots are uploaded to for runelite screenshot plugin?
no
alright, thx!
@zealous nova when you click detect player does it still get uploaded to your list?
yes
how do I know what each group means
you'll find out shortly in a couple updates, right now it's basically a dev ID - but you can try to look around and see that similar players have the same ID
I have to output labels to the correct IDs later on, currently fixing the back end with data management/server stuff atm
I cant remember the plugin name that reminds me to drink my potion
whats up
#support Hi guys, can someone help me : it has been a month now that my runelite client won't lauch and says : RuneLite has encountered an unexpected error during startup. And don(t know if there is a like but i changed my hard drive recently. A have tried multiples times reinstaling it ... thanks in advance
Not sure what this error means. also part if it is in french?
are you out of disk space maybe?
hi guys, ive been trying to get runelite to work on my mac forever. but everytime ive tried to launch the app it says, "fatal error while downloading the bootstrap file". i have no idea what tht means
click open logs and upload launcher.log here
Not really relevant to runelite
buenas
can someone please help me with a runlight issue I'm having
it wont even boot up
I'm getting the "can't find name of icd opengl driver"
i looked everywhere online for info
i deleted and reinstalled, i ran with both my igpu and rtx 2060

That looks like some illegal rwt 
and/or some betting website, either way read the rules in #welcome. not allowed here
turn off the plugin
the Grand Exchange plugin
Turning off the loot tracker plugin doesn't remove any loot, right?
your buy/sell offers are going to someone with the runelite plugin enabled. you can't defeat them
just leave it on
what don't you like about it?
well, it isn't because all data is anonymous ๐คท
Wait till he finds out how much data Google's harvesting from his searches
or the fact that jagex also tracks all your account actions 
unlike google/jagex this data is 100% anonymous
jagex knows when you're fapping
Jagex track a surprising amount of data
of course they do, their core product is 'free'
Enough that they can do background checks on you without your knowledge
I understand your point of view but keep in mind its anonymous so no harm will come from it. But you can turn of the GE plugin and nothing will be tracked
There is no privacy concern. The data is anonymous.
how hard would it be to de-anonymize that data
but if you had all jagex's data you wouldnt need this data set
No you would not
just the wiki and ge one
the only way it would be completely impossible would be if there were to unplug every server right now and use matter annihilation to completely remove every server from existence
its just shades of difficulty
its connected to the internet, there is a way
I can 100% promise you no one is going to use your anonymised GE price data to figure out what Runescape account it came from. Primarily because it's not possible without the full transactional history from Jagex, but also because no one cares.
you do realize this is just a game. are you laundering money into the ge or something?
all it sends is "x amount of item y was bought/sold for z value"
it only submits the price/itemid and time iirc
so no anonymization is required because the data doesnt contain any account specific information
That's a good point, is it wrong to call it anonymised 
i wonder if he uses a RL account 
@shy carbon legit watch #development to keep track of what you've done. It's sorta nuts (but also makes sense) how much of a difference just the shadows make for the game feel. Keep up the hard work ๐ป
@shy carbon does this support linux, mac?
it should work on all machines with opengl support
not entirely sure about how much mac supports
I'm developing it on linux
I think this might run on mac too
it doesn't use any particularly new opengl features I believe
i think it would light my mac on fire
macs should be lit on fire
replace with thonkpad, install arch, call it a day
compute shaders already crash my new 16inch macbook pro
unfortunate
I could give it a spin on my mac
would be funny if it works fine on mac+linux now and not on windows :P
developers here try make it not work on macs
besides the fact that a ton of time went into getting it to work on mac?
but he said it crashes his mac
so no macbook pros can get compute shaders working without crashing?
my macbook pro has no issues
i am going to buy a dell xps
its a amd driver issue apparently
so if you have a m1 or intel integrated gpu you will be fine
tell apple to support opengl again
@shy carbon might be able to fix it @sacred spindle
instead of meteor or whatever dumb shit they embraced instead of vulkan
metal, i think?
some weird dumb proprietary graphics api stack that literally nobody else uses
I think metal is open, but don't know much about it
things would probably be better if nvidia did some open source driver stuff
Hooder can you check if you can fix my drivers please
Will they? probably not
i posted the logs
reading the logs now
can't see any java-related error messages sadly
so probably deep in a driver somewhere
is this with the shadow gpu plugin or just regular runelite with compute shaders?
regular runelite with compute shaders
ah
I'm not sure what could help
no worries
it's the sorta thing that'd be easier to test if I owned the same system
i was told to wait for apple to fix the driver issue but I doubt that will ever happen
does it work without compute shaders though?
yes
I think that's a decent approach
you don't get the full render distance though
that's a shame
yup extended draw distance is so useful
i have extended draw distance on something ridiculous, like 75
might as well use the 2060 i have
show off
Do you think it will work on m1x or m2 apple processors. I don't want to upgrade when it comes out if it wont work ๐ฆ
might be too early to tell at this point
What gpu do you have? is there a way to find out if its only amd gpu that are causing the crash
go to a Apple store, download runelite on their machines and test it for 60 minutes
I'd buy a pc instead
then deal with the consequences
It seems like its only a amd issue gamma dont get crashes
because there's apple fanatics that cry and abuse us because their precious macbook doesnt support standard libraries
Why does apple hate literally anything not developed by Apple
Ive put more work into runelite on macos than you are probably capable of understanding
i bet you pay for the dev license too (non-sarcastic)
lots of people that program as a hobby can't really afford 99/year for a license that doesn't even guarantee your app will remain available
paying for free things ๐
there is probably a map image out there yeah
no, but you can search on the website(assuming you are logged in)
boys boys boys whos down to train on some sand crabs
im 2 away from my ranged. goal of 80
Dont think so
hello everyone
!tooltips
speedy hexagon
it has been a while since i've seen anyone with that problem
couldnt remember the command
ah
gonna be a whole new game for you ๐
tooltip position in the runelite plugin
how can I get started to become a runelite developer
is udemy a good place to start?
!ghwhois rkgman
@stuck sapphire
@stuck sapphire hey dude, are you still working on the fire beats plugin?
Sorry for the unsolicited ping ๐
Feel I hit a wall with being able to find a better streaming source for music (like soundcloud). But haven't really touched it much recently.
Haha no worries. I'm kind of bummed I can't figure out an alternate stream approach. Anonfiles CDN can get bogged down and lag significantly making the whole experience not great depending on the day.
Ah right, that sounds painful ๐ฆ
Got a friend who wanted to know if it was still in dev because he really likes it so thought I'd try my luck ๐
fwiw I like it too!
You're the dev for firebeats?
I'm glad it works decently for the most part and people enjoy it! I'll keep looking into a more reliable way to stream the music
I had this really weird bug when I used the plugin. It played the song, but I was just checking it out. I turned off the plugin, and the song continued. When I turned it back on, it played a 2nd song on top. I uninstalled and reinstalled, enabled and disabled. By the end of it I had 12 tracks playing at once.
It was pretty funny, had to restart runelite to stop it.
Yikes. Can't say I've seen that. Haha feel free to add it to the github so I can try and reproduce and figure out how that might happen. ๐
It was more than likely an issue with another plugin I had enabled. It gave me and my friend a good laugh.
@sacred spindle you mean like this https://i.imgur.com/WvspQ1z.png
Oh tile indicators
the xpdrops plugin does it, but only if your offensive prayer is correctly set
This?
yes
ty bro
has anyone been banned for using this left click to drop plugin?
so why the "use at your own risk" there?
duno, author put it there
alright, thanks
Hey, I noticed that there is this in the list of rules that clients aren't allowed to do Removes dead NPC entities or the minimenu options from them
I was wondering whether it would be allowed to do something menu entry swapper style and just move the minimenu options of dead npcs to the bottom of the list so that they aren't the left click option
Would be useful for barrage slayer tasks
no, but we do have an option to recolor them so you can tell them apart visually
!pulse
Upcoming changes https://runelite.net/pulse
!xpdrops
We are using vanilla XP drops. To configure them: https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/XP-Drop
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Because you can drop what ever you want and Iโm not responsible if you yeet your cash stack and teleport away
is there a quick way to clear chatbox / cc ?
I think Chat Commands has keybinds for deleting the last word or the entire box
hi guys, im trying to download runelite on my mac. i keep getting the error that a fatal error occurred while downloading the bootstrap. does that make sense to anyone?
!logs upload your launcher log
To find the logs, you can do one of the following:
- If your client failed to open, click the
Open logs folderbutton. - Open the screenshot directory by right-clicking
Camerabutton, navigate 1 directory up, then openlogsfolder. - Navigate to
%userprofile%\.runelite\logson Windows or$HOME/.runelite/logson Linux and macOS.
launcher.log
dont know why its not working :/
damn idk either runelite has always given me this problem but now osbuddy is screwed up too so i went back to runelite and both of them are screwed up RIP
@worldly pumice https://github.com/runelite/runelite/wiki/Troubleshooting-problems-with-the-client#javaxnetsslsslhandshakeexception-pkix-path-building-failed
so hydrox based off that do i just need to uninstall and wait for runelite to update? or is there a way for me to fix it?
thanks for the help!
!invite
!invite command not found!
hey is it possible to move the entirety of runelite interface from the rightside to the bottom?
no
you could try turning your screen 90 degrees
i will turn my head
was just hoping i could have it like this
in the black spac
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yo haven't played in nearly a year, any major updates for rl? some graphical changes maybe?
sorry for dumb question, but how i can make the same ui as yours?
in runelite plugins type in stretched and it should pull up something where you can enable integer scaling
and in the in game settings you set it to classic or something
hmm i zoomed all in and my runelite crashed, cant log in anymore wtf is going on ๐
The plugin hub plugin for zoom extending ?
Or the default zooming in
#support also
what plugin is this?
the Fishing plugin?
ok thank you
how do i make the infoboxes a column? the drag option doesnt work for me
alt drag the edge to resize, shift right click to flip
how do i get this circle on fly fishing so i know when i should click
thats not fly fishing, thats minnows
and the minnows overlay is part of the Fishing plugin, Show Minnow Movement overlay
sweet, if the plugin is on & you've run past them their names will be sent to the server ๐
it says server error
can you check if they are bots for me?
also I noticed once you turn on the plugin you need to go in settings and turn it on again
why is that @zealous nova
That's strange, it should keep your vals - you should be able to send names automatically
I can check the status of those players one sec
send names automatically > is off by default
you should put it on by default otherwise what is it doing?
is anyone able to answer a question i have reguarding runelite?
Is it a support question
well last night i recorded 40 barrows kills and when i came on today it had gone to 39 kills missing an item. i tried resetting and the same. so i logged in and out to see if that would fix the issue and it deleted my entire loot tab
is there anyway to recover that?
no i do not think so
ooof. there goes the challenge thanks anyway guys!
248, 268, 101 were the group outputs, most concerned with #268 atm but those sets need more data as their groupings are <10 players ea
you can still see the loot on the website, try restarting your client and it might load back in now, or get another kc @olive kayak
for that other thing it sounds like it failed to submit the data to the server
ahh so i can get my kc back but i may not get the 40th chest item to show?
will you get them banned?
He has the bot detector plugin
Once our model is at a higher accuracy value I'll send names over to jagex :)
Rn with 12k entries we're at a good 85%
So we're just data collecting atm
rip my cannonball alt if I ever start it back up again
Nah your alt would likely be fine, we're implementing more checks than just hiscore data
Also estimated amout of time online, etc
Will swag fashionscape be factored in? I have a gilded apron and blacksmith mask ๐
Location data, & some more
how many names do you need to collect? please fix the default thing on your plguin and you should get more names
most people will have told it on
but not turned on automatic send
50k would get us to 95%
so it does nothing
100k to 99 probably, and we can do that shortly to change the default :)
Atm we have 20k in queue iirc
The model is only trained on 12k though
should i go to every world and collect 100k names for you
@quick folio thank for help was able to recover loot tab just not the 40th item. just sucks cause friend and i are doing a challenge loot from 100 barrows chests and the item i lost from tracker was ahrims top xD
Dw you can just keep the plugin on and just play the game :) it's all good
We'll get that 100k quickly at this rate
did you enable loot screenshots? you might have a screenshot of the ahrims tob in that case
should be enough proof for your friend that you actually got one :P
hmm is that a runelite feature or a plugin?
@zealous nova when I click detect will it upload and make it 1 names uploaded^
@quick folio ahhh i do have that enabled do i find that in my pc or runelite itself?
yes
right click the camera icon in runelite
open folder
open the one with your name, open Chest loot, and your barrows kills should be there
plugin should auto-report anyone with a (number) (word) (number) name 
or no its actually in Boss Kills 
We can do that soon too ๐ it'll autosend the player's name though if you encounter them in game
I got these in my Boss Kills screenshot folder @olive kayak
it collects everyones names but you need to turn it on in the settings otherwise it sits and do nothing
so hunt down your ahrims top kill(probably your last one or something) and save it somewhere and just get 99kc in your tracker and add the screenshot
@inland shadow it's not even sporting at this point lol
@zealous nova can you detect people who use AHK
lol
@quick folio broooo in the last screen shot of my 40th kc my loot tracker is open
/and it shows the 40x kc and ahrims top
proof enough imo :D
undeniable. thanks so much!
No sorry that's not possible ๐ฆ
lol
@zealous nova long term it's gonna be a lot quicker for you to just say yes all the time
@true verge dont underestimate his plugin
@zealous nova How exactly are you determining if a player is a bot by stats connected to their username alone? I'm looking at your code and it seems like it would have problems with accuracy with so little data.
now you done it lad
@sacred spindle advanced computer science and AI
lmao
I'm skeptical
It's never gonna do anything if you don't let them work on it and play 20 questions all day ๐
@sacred spindle you think the code is simple but you just dont understand it
Is this the same guy who's always coming in here on new accounts
I could see the use in it finding bot farms, accounts created with specific stats en masse, but other cases, no
I'm getting a feeling
Who knows maybe
Do you have background in computer science and AI?
This server attracts a lot of... eccentric people though so could just be a new one
I dont think you understand the complexity
I have a background in computer science
I just saw this bot detector thing being mentioned and it piqued my interest
It's a troll
Retain thine energies.
Thatโs certainly a polite way of putting it
Hmm, are you guys talking about me?
How would you improve it?
Nah, youโre good
I have no way I would know of to improve it, there is little data available for players to detect bots with
Sort of, but not truly
In your professional opinion do you think his plugin wont deliver the results he wants? can it have false postiives?
Maybe his model has a Hans integration
Hans the Betrayer
Giving out player data on the DL
I said it seems like it would work well to identify bot farms, but not on lone bot accounts
whats the difference?
bot farms often shoot for certain stats
bot farms will use the same procedure for every bot, so their stats will end up very similar
so the program will be able to group them
a neural network could identity botfarms easily - through stats alone
but this can detect lone outliers, which jagex could look at if the stats are weird
I think bot farms are a bigger issue than indivdual bots who boost their stats to play the game
how so
if an account has a combination of stats that basically no other account has, it would show up in the analysis
could be someone has a weird snowflake build
could be a bot
but it could flag it for investigation
now in theory jagex should be doing all this on their backend anyway but it's jagex so
who knows
if it proves to be working nicely jagex could maybe fork the project and feed it the raw data from the database once the model is sufficiently stable 
doesn't mean they have enough data scientists
Doesn't that argument apply to both sides
not sure what you mean
i dont think jagex is using machine learning
Well this plugin is built by a lone med student, not a well financed data team
Not to disparage his efforts
Just applying the same logic
is anything on the osrs team well financed tho
Good point lol
and this bot detector does not give results good enough for anything but "hey, maybe you should take a look at this kind of accounts?"
runelite is built by volunteers, not a well financed development team 
doesnt mean it cant be better than the alternatives
but it does some grunt work that jagex might appreciate
you will regret underestimating him
they have tipoff for a reason
I am sort of wondering why does the plugin need to pull names from in-game? Why not just rip the highscores
rate limiting
thats a bottleneck thing
Because he's not well financed ๐
active players
and yes that
I think it was 600 days or something to crawl the entire hiscores
yeah
but with a bot farm you only need a couple and jagex can find the rest easily
you dont need all of the bots to catch them all basically
if it proves to be useful is something only time can tell
look how much an impact sir pugger is making
Right, so I assume you would want people to be pulling names from certain areas?
presumably
@true verge why you leaving me hanging in #development 
Cos this is titillating
once he collects his 100k names he says it will be really accuate @sacred spindle
Accurate at what exactly though, the premise is a bit vague. I can see the use, and what I foresee is only a certain use-case. ie. bot farms
you need much more than just stats
hopefully it will do more than that but even if it detects bot farms only that is really helpful
i just hope it can detect AHK and gold farmers one day
How's it gonna detect AHK
"detect"
AI
lol
nice meme
You sound like my CEO
The only thing it will be detecting is patterns in highscore stats
^
for now at least
a human cant tell if you are using ahk or a bot based on just hiscores
does jagex know a differecen between human clicks and ahk
No
yes, they get much more data
well, i should say, they can detect if they put some effort in to it
They can detect scripted behaviours but not "AHK or not"
AHK isn't even illegal on its own
I use it to set my foot pedal to left click for alching
๐ We got you! This whole server has been an elaborate sting operation
On the ground now!
have you been banned before?
No? It's not bannable lol
lol
it's literally two lines of code that does a 1-to-1 rebind
using a mouse isnt a bannable offense 
#IfWinActive RuneLite
F24::LButton
using a touchpad might be
its the same as putting a second mouse on the floor and clicking it with your foot
i got banned for autoclicking 6 years ago whats the difference

where's hydrox
the difference is that autoclicking is botting
This dude def a troll
yeah
!mousekeys
Hydrox we got another one for you
IT'S THIS GUY AGAIN
oh you know about hydrox? 
hey he aint the only mod around here ๐ค
Unmoon has many tricks
on occasion
im not a troll
Are you sure?
yes
I'm convinced
i am here to support @zealous nova
Can we use AI to prove it
thats it
It's this fucking dude 100%

lmao
did you know AI can actually be used to identify people based on their typing patterns 
maybe he's undercover to find out if the plugin will detect his botting ๐ค
ty for the support xows ๐ but we can't detect ahk unfortunately ๐ฆ
writing an AI right now
Ferrariic needs to make a discord bot to auto-ban mac guy when he joins
My AI classified you as a troll with 90% accuracy 
You think this is a democracy!?
I am not a troll I am here to support the movement
Man that dude was stronk
the movement? Where all the hungriest brothers with something to prove went?
i support the movement to close down this discord server and move back to irc
On youtube I saw someone use AHK for agility. I think @inland shadow should get banned like I did
its not fair
someone hit the cya button pls

@zealous nova can it detect mules?

That's some interesting timing
thats actually a different person unmoon xD
But are we sure
isnt that the guy i muted last night
Yes
the horror
god please have mercy
when will my plugin be made
someone said its being done
how long do I need to wait?
till someone feels like making it, PR it, and then till someone reviews it and thinks its a good addition
whats the point of the github account if it doesnt get made
