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[humble sonnet]

(I figured this out by myself)

[dawn holly]

what's the point of this style?

[humble sonnet]

for... brackets.

[dawn holly]

when would one use "brackets"?

[humble sonnet]

emphasis/clarification i guess?

[dawn holly]

hmm

Unfortunately I think it will just look like a broken cartouche to the audience 😔

because broken cartouches are common

[humble sonnet]

It looks more like brackets in this font

[dawn holly]

but readers who are familiar with sitelen pona will still probably see a broken cartouche, I think

[humble sonnet]

i guess yes

[dawn holly]

so many of them will still read that as "mi kepeken Sin"

[humble sonnet]

So they will think it's

[dawn holly]

yes exactly

[humble sonnet]

which is

[humble sonnet]

so they will read it as

mi kepeken Sin?

[dawn holly]

I think that will happen if you try to use brackets as emphasis

in sitelen pona the most common way to do emphasis is by including the word a

[humble sonnet]

What about 〈these brackets〉?

[dawn holly]

for those the most common (although not totally official) is to use the words te and to which turn into symbols in sitelen pona that don't get pronounced when someone reads them

[humble sonnet]

nope
the 〉 looks like 󱤧

[dawn holly]

yes, that was my thought

[humble sonnet]

(Reacting with and not ❌ to prevent deletion)

[dawn holly]

Can I ask why you are trying to think of new ways to write sitelen pona that aren't common? You don't like any of the existing ways?

[humble sonnet]

I found this out two weeks ago

[humble sonnet]

when translating a title of a song

[humble sonnet]

then I translated TikTok

[humble sonnet]

and I needed brackets to say (TikTok)

but didn't want to change the font

[humble sonnet]

and that was my solution

[dawn holly]

The few times I've seen the all caps Latin in sitelen pona the cartouche is kept for it as well

[humble sonnet]

it would look like a name and a surname lol

name: 󱦐󱥜󱦝󱥾󱦜󱦑
surname: TIKTOK

[dawn holly]

But there's no cultural concept of "surname" in Toki Pona

it's just multiple names

[humble sonnet]

two names*

[dawn holly]

So you are talking about a situation where I want to write the Latin spelling to clarify the Tokiponized name

[humble sonnet]

Like this:

-# that jaki lol

[dawn holly]

it's a great

[humble sonnet]

not , it's (insert really messy scribble)

[dawn holly]

ok so you are talking about a situation where the whole text is using sitelen pona but you want to clarify that a specific name (which is tokiponized and in a cartouche) is pronounced in an unintuitive way by writing something in the Latin script

hmmm I think I can imagine a bunch of cartouches still

let me try to create it

[humble sonnet]

󱦐󱥜󱦝󱥾󱦜󱦑󱤇󱤻󱦐TIKTOK󱦑

or this

[humble sonnet]

like this?

[dawn holly]

well in that case it would not be the same statement

you are not saying "this is how you should pronounce it"

you are saying "the toki pona name is because of this English name" or something

[humble sonnet]

ye

[dawn holly]

but yes like that 😁