Speke izi!

[barren sand]

speke izi

what is this

[vagrant cloak]

this is a susu sen reboot

@jan Wano

@barren sand

[barren sand]

ah cool

how would you do that?

[vagrant cloak]

ok so lets start with regular tp

i think "na" should replace "ala".

[barren sand]

ah ok

[vagrant cloak]

invite some more people into that thread...

[barren sand]

yeah

but i dont know who

[vagrant cloak]

lets make it... base 10, as literally every language.
0 - nola
1 - wan
2 - tu
3 - san
4 - po
5 - pen
6 - pen e wan
7 - pen e tu
8 - pen e san
9 - pen e po
10 - ten
11 - ten e wan
20 - tu ten
30 - san ten
40 - po ten
50 - pen ten
60 - (pen e wan) ten
70 - (pen e tu) ten
80 - (pen e san) ten
90 - (pen e po) ten
100 - ale

[inland lion]

Wait this isn't susu sen if you're making a new number system..?

susu sen is just replacing every toki pona word with a new one

[raven crag]

I think @vagrant cloak has a fundamental misunderstanding of what susu sen is

[raven crag]

"as literally every language"
I think you mean "literally every European language"

[storm delta]

i think base 10 is the most common even globally? definitely not every language but it’s not just in europe

(i didn’t fact check this graph, i found it on the internet so i might be totally wrong here)

ok at least wikipedia says decimal is the most common globally

[vagrant cloak]

everyone

i said i'm going to use base 10 because its widespread.

[rare roost]

1. this isn’t what susu sen was
2. “literally every language” and then “[languages that aren’t base 10] are crazy”

nasa mute tawa mi

[static wasp]

Hello, I am a moderator

@vagrant cloak here is what susu sen is:

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/User:.vivivivivi/susu_sen

Please clarify how “Speke izi!” is different or similar to it. If you want to claim that you’re “rebooting” somebody else’s work, then it’s important to be faithful to the original or else to clearly explain how and why you want to change direction. Otherwise don’t claim it and say, for example, that you are making your own language that takes some inspiration from susu sen.

Also please be careful about making generalizations about “every language” when you really mean that something is “very widespread”. Generalizations like this can feel bad to members that have experienced marginalization.

Please also avoid using the word “crazy”, this word has often been used to abuse people in the context of mental health. You can pick a different word like “extreme” or “ridiculous”.

[vagrant cloak]

ok so fine... shut downed.

[raven crag]

this is not what I said
as jan Suko has clarified, you were not being faithful to the original work

[static wasp]

That’s not quite right! You can definitely continue working on this, just please follow the server rules in chats and discussions ☺️ And specifically:

• since it’s totally different from susu sen, please don’t claim that it is susu sen—but you can totally say something like “inspired by susu sen”
• don’t generalize about languages in a comment by saying something like “all languages are like this”
• don’t use mental health terms like “crazy” or “insane” to say something is “intense” or “weird” or “silly”
  That’s all! Best of luck with the conlanging, I hope the new language is a cool one!

[vagrant cloak]

inspired by susu sen

its going to be so intense lmao