gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin | ma pona pi toki pona | Page 8

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:38 PM

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leme ≈ to affect

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:38 PM

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i have an artists soul i get leme'd by everything

true patrol Apr 13, 2024, 1:38 PM

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a a

true patrol Apr 13, 2024, 1:38 PM

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atomic halo i have an artists soul i get leme'd by everything

real

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:38 PM

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leme is like transitive pilin but as a word

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:38 PM

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yeah

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most of the words are coined by me but jan Kali and soweli Noneko work on their own good chunk of words

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so far we don’t even have a fourth contributor
someday though… maybe

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:40 PM

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its important that we were in on it from the start so we have a better grasp on the baseline i think

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:40 PM

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oh yeah that reminds me, numbers

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:41 PM

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atomic halo its important that we were in on it from the start so we have a better grasp on ...

true

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:41 PM

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we started sigka'ing and then it makes it progressively harder for anyone else to sigka'i

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:41 PM

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I need to write down all of my gisi pagkan ideas

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:41 PM

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playground tonite?

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oh right the sheet

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:41 PM

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atomic halo we started sigka'ing and then it makes it progressively harder for anyone else t...

hypothetical jan Sonja knowing that her 120 words will never have new ones being added

true patrol Apr 13, 2024, 1:41 PM

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do yall go in call to discuss these ideas?

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:42 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WSlLJS54HvBgEhFrwJlaTU_VXrooofKF0zD5fPQvYlI/edit

Google Docs

gisi gisi

Phonology

Bilabial,Coronal,Velar,Glottal
Plosive,p,k,‘ (ʔ)
Nasal,m,n,g (ŋ)
Fricative,s
Approximant,l
Front,Back
Closed,i,u
Open,e (æ),a (ɑ)
CV(s/N),(N)asal coda is -n at the end of words, but can be assimilated
assimilation is explicitly spelled out, pankan > pagkan
Bilabial,Coronal,Velar,Glotta...

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nah we just do it in text

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here's all the words we have btw the sheet is the most up to date lipu

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:42 PM

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yeah

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it doesn’t have much grammar support as far as I know but in regards to lexicon it’s the go-to

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:43 PM

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yeah i think the sona.pona page is a better format for grammar

true patrol Apr 13, 2024, 1:43 PM

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awesome ill be taking a look then 🙂

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:44 PM

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kanesu Saki(Sake?Saka?Seki?) tbh

true patrol Apr 13, 2024, 1:44 PM

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question

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:44 PM

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the stupid idea for a subheader in the grammar section came into my mind
“How do I pi?”

true patrol Apr 13, 2024, 1:44 PM

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is the s’ ejective

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anu ala

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:44 PM

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remote junco the stupid idea for a subheader in the grammar section came into my mind “How d...

TRUEE

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:44 PM

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true patrol is the s’ ejective

kind of a toss up

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ideally it’s just x/s?/

strong tartanBOT Apr 13, 2024, 1:45 PM

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remote junco ideally it’s just x/s?/

/sʔ/

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:45 PM

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kind of a paka kanesu

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:45 PM

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but I’ve seen x[h?] be suggested before for assimilation

strong tartanBOT Apr 13, 2024, 1:45 PM

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remote junco but I’ve seen x[h?] be suggested before for assimilation

[hʔ]

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:46 PM

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i do think it's not ideal to add x and f just for assimilation purposes (does anything besides nasals even get assimilated normally)

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that was like a "joke concept that gets explored to its ends just to see what happens"

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i love doing those

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 1:51 PM

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fair

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 1:53 PM

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oh yeah nesku pagkan ka ka nonex Has reportedly made a lipu about it, it told me to remind it to post when it wakes up

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reapings from the gisi revision form probably

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that makes it sound so formal a a

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 5:09 PM

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God yeah hi. It's not a complete evolution of the semantic spaces but like. A small analysis of what we have. It'll take me a bit to post cuz tbh I am like. Experiencing Things rn

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The Horrors honestly

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But yeah just give me a bit cuz idk how shaky things are rn

opal basinBOT Apr 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Set a reminder in 2 hours and 1 minute from now (<t:1713036388:f>)
View reminders with the reminders command

opal basinBOT Apr 13, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Reminder for @chilly urchin

Reminder from YAGPDB

Check if the horrors are gone and then get 2 it bbg

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 7:27 PM

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ah nods

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the horrors are gone

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 7:27 PM

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yippee

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o pali e nali:
gisi jasima
gisi numbers
gisi sona
gisi jo
namunen gisi ka las’e sigka’i Kulisin

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 7:30 PM

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nali?

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 7:30 PM

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humorous corruption of ni

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 7:30 PM

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ah nods

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 7:30 PM

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akin to tenpo penpo

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to do ≈ o pali e nali

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I made it up right here

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 7:31 PM

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o pali e nali/ni = open

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 7:31 PM

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lonnnn

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open popen

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like o pali

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op = open popen = o pali e ni (p)o pali e ni

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chaos

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 7:35 PM

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open popen 😭

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 9:23 PM

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Ok WOW

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I severely underestimated these tweaks and shit

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There is so much to analyze

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 9:42 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T8pIdNcLUdPX4W6I7WHxci4-ncC3jgSqHclf8Bmllh0/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Gisi gisi - rev 1

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This is so fucking muchj and I feel like I may have not covered Everything on account of could have forgor

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 9:46 PM

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owo

lucid bay Apr 13, 2024, 9:47 PM

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🥺 awsome rrrrr

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LLON ! !! !

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mu li lon ala toki ni la mi ken ala toki ni 🤬

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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this is so lipu

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will check later

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ill be happy to restate what i said about musi and paka and stuff but im in the middle of something rn

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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Yeah dw !!!

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:05 PM

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ke is not a priori smh

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it’s literally from the Vietnamese word cờ

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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? did i put it in the a priori section

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ah fuck i did

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Although i think it was in the context of "it's a priorit because it doesn't exist in tp"

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:09 PM

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hm

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namunen being wear and tear ka ka hmm yeah I did define it this way; perhaps it can fully focus on the more pakala meaning of it. perhaps we can make writing be like an intentional namunen

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I noticed the note on menu being confusing

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talk more about that to me

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:13 PM

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Is menu supposed to be a jan equivalent?

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Or jan-like

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Or sapient

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Because there's a difference between the three

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Like if we want to apply it to the concept of a Human Being then that's one thing. (But I don't thikn that was intended). If we talk about humanoid things then the definition isn't just human being. Mae NITW would be menu but not smaug. But then it also includes sapient which kind of throws me off too

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Because then everything is menu and it just falls under category of being animal?? Or maybe the dictionary definition is confusing because it presents them as different concepts

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:19 PM

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sapience is usually contrasted with sentience

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sort of like the quality of having or approaching human cognition or higher

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perhaps I have read too many Brandon Sanderson books where this concept does come up often to toy with the concept of humanity and alike a bit

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he has a lot of sapient beings that aren’t really completely physically human (so not like Tolkien’s elves, dwarves, etc.) but have a lot of human qualities regardless (humanoid-ish build (though one of the examples I am thinking of is very amorphous!), complex language, abstract thinking/reasoning, etc.)

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menu is an anthropocentric word essentially

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:24 PM

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remote junco talk more about that to me

kolisin in a business suir uncrossing her legs

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:24 PM

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but not necessarily Homo sapiens sapiens exclusive

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:25 PM

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yeah i figured menu was the "okay guys no more arguing over whether the ijo headnoun person counts as jan. all menu now"

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:27 PM

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remote junco perhaps I have read too many Brandon Sanderson books where this concept does com...

(also the reverse — humans with less human qualities, whether that be reduced to a whimpering babbling heap like the Hoed, or divine and supernatural like the Elantrians (both of these examples are directly related btw hehe))

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:28 PM

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atomic halo yeah i figured menu was the "okay guys no more arguing over whether the ijo head...

essentially! jan but cooler and more woke

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:28 PM

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ohhh ok nods

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so Smaug can be menu

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:29 PM

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yeah!

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:29 PM

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nods

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:29 PM

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mae would theoretically be more menu perchance, has more human qualities

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menu to pukis/‘askalis scale when

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(well they can overlap lol)

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:30 PM

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no she's a lape ike (her eyes reflect this)

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:30 PM

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im the menu pukis they warned you about

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:30 PM

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menu ka nesku ‘uge si ‘askalis

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:30 PM

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I feel like the animal descriptors are more aobut the qualities exhibited

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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fair

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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whereas menu is more about the sapience exhibited + how anthro

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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menu is also another exhibited quality descriptor tbh

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archetypically it could be humans, but like it’s not limited to that in many ways

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:32 PM

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smaug is menu the way tree bark is pukis

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:32 PM

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a statue of a human being would be more menu than one of a skunk

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:33 PM

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atomic halo smaug is menu the way tree bark is pukis

TRUEEEEEEEEEEE

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 10:33 PM

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maybe just in form though so I’d probably do like [sijelo] menu

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:33 PM

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nods sagely

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:33 PM

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yeah

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:33 PM

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a kiwen menu

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:37 PM

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atomic halo ill be happy to restate what i said about musi and paka and stuff but im in the ...

ok so this la btw

musi: we were discussing how musi means both humor and art, because i was trying to figure out if art could be within the domain of leme // we ended up with yes because humor is specifically a leme pona while art is just like. All leme // this also probably means we don't need a distinct word for musi anymore i love calling art gisi leme
paka: when a ball moves its inertia is the sagke because it's like the internal propelling force, while the kinetic energy it produces while moving + the movement itself is paka. paka isn't strictly wind, it means more like motion; it's just that wind feels a lot like the essence of motion

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:41 PM

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nodz

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:50 PM

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also my latest ruminations on pagkan:

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yeah i love grue. yeah i love fresh and new

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right now we have grass and weeds in there too but that was kind of like

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i wanted to talk about grass and i used pagkan for it and i was like ok yeah
it's green guys.. it's pagkan

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i wouldn't mind migrating grass somewhere else but i def also think it's not out of place

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:52 PM

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paka la
sorry i know nothing still threads and forums should allow pins and searching and go to first post button imo

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:52 PM

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foliage can do whatever it wants maybe it can be tree lili and not pagkan

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:52 PM

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final frost paka la sorry i know nothing still threads and forums should allow pins and sear...

YEAH WHY DON'T THEY HAVE A GO TO FIRST POST BUTTON

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SUCKS ASS

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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atomic halo i wouldn't mind migrating grass somewhere else but i def also think it's not out...

no me neither

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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lichrelly

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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i just think the definition of what it is is kind of nebulous

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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nods

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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but i like it as like

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little green + new things

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pagkan was also like sin right

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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ya!!

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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nods

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menu pagkan -> new person or gumby

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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toki pona la grass li kasi ike e e e LAWNS ARE EVIL

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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the sin analogy is from my vietnamese mind where calling unripe fruit green becomes metaphorically calling other new things sometimes green

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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final frost toki pona la grass li kasi ike e e e LAWNS ARE EVIL

LONN

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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lawns are suck if u monoculture them

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grow little fruits

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IMMEDIATELY

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:55 PM

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atomic halo the sin analogy is from my vietnamese mind where calling unripe fruit green beco...

now that you mention it i think there might be sorta now oldey english phrase that uses green as new too

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:55 PM

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oh for real?

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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it like... is vaguely sitting in the edge of my mind. but msa

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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yeah in spanish there's also a construction like that

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from the dictionary

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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oomf i can't read this yet💔

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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i MIGHT be thinking of greenhorn

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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Said of a group of years in life: Corresponding to infancy and youth
Said of something: that it is in its beginnings and is still missing a lot to be perfected
Said of a person: Not expert and unprepared

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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but that's more cowboy american

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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YEAH!! we do the green thing to say inexperienced especially

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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i am so green at vietnamese

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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i added the budding thing but then i was like "no... too specific.. activating my calque neurons" so i simplified it to just fresh and new

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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are y'all collecting your gisi gisi fermentations anywhere

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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yeap

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elt me get it

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WSlLJS54HvBgEhFrwJlaTU_VXrooofKF0zD5fPQvYlI/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

gisi gisi

Phonology

Bilabial,Coronal,Velar,Glottal
Plosive,p,k,‘ (ʔ)
Nasal,m,n,g (ŋ)
Fricative,s
Approximant,l
Front,Back
Closed,i,u
Open,e (æ),a (ɑ)
CV(s/N),(N)asal coda is -n at the end of words, but can be assimilated
assimilation is explicitly spelled out, pankan > pagkan
Bilabial,Coronal,Velar,Glotta...

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 10:59 PM

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chilly urchin https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T8pIdNcLUdPX4W6I7WHxci4-ncC3jgSqHclf8Bmllh0/...

also u came as we were debating things about where 2 go next so here's That doc for the things

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I need to say something about ka though: it needs 2 be hella updated

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To encompass all its uses

final frost Apr 13, 2024, 11:00 PM

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pona a, saving for when i have the energy to maybe kama sona because i love just fucking around with stuff

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:00 PM

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Cuz rn the definition in the doc is like

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Bad

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a a a wawa

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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petition to make all the particles green like in the sona.pona sheet

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:07 PM

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motion accepted

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 11:35 PM

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atomic halo the sin analogy is from my vietnamese mind where calling unripe fruit green beco...

midori from Japanese is the same way

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:35 PM

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dude dats the guy from mha

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 11:35 PM

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so basically green = new is a pretty cross-cultural thing I’m noticing

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sounds like a good thing to have in gisi gisi tbh

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I like the color words meaning stuff other than colors

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same with numbers meaning more than numbers

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wan and tu are dope ass shit

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:39 PM

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nods nods nods

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 11:39 PM

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remembering my semi-joking nimi sin le which is basically for 3, triangles and anything triangular and comes from the Ainu word for 3

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 11:44 PM

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remote junco so basically green = new is a pretty cross-cultural thing I’m noticing

retroactive diversity win

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:45 PM

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I read it as "radioactive diversity win" and I was like

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Yeah you WOULD say that

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 11:45 PM

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lmaooo

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would radioactivity be sili? thoughts

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:47 PM

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sagke magi

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no

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sagke sili

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 11:47 PM

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hm good point!

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:49 PM

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i guess it depends but i like the decay aspect of it

remote junco Apr 13, 2024, 11:49 PM

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me too!

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:49 PM

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:D

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 11:53 PM

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hi chat im back from boot camp and im like not used to my laptop at all now

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 11:53 PM

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chilly urchin Yeah you WOULD say that

WOULD IIIII

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:53 PM

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oh shit hi !!! welcome Back

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 11:53 PM

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mi lon e ma

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:53 PM

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ohhh guvk

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 11:55 PM

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?? did google sheets fuckifn stop locking scroll by cell while i was gone

chilly urchin Apr 13, 2024, 11:56 PM

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boot camp do be sesli ka sili [nesku] think about it

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no

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sesli ka sagke nesku

atomic halo Apr 13, 2024, 11:56 PM

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TBHH

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 5:15 AM

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Anyway next on the todo list is for me to make some Semantic Spaces through the week so that Beginners™️ can understand instead of us sharing the knowledge in our heads

remote junco Apr 15, 2024, 5:16 AM

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wawa

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 5:17 AM

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And find etymologies but that's besides the point

atomic halo Apr 15, 2024, 5:18 AM

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pipi dying in a ditch

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 5:19 AM

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NOOOOOO

wicked hedge Apr 15, 2024, 4:07 PM

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is this language

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like

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speakable yet

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 4:11 PM

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Sorta kinda!! We've written with the concepts we have so far. But it's still a Work in Grogress

wicked hedge Apr 15, 2024, 4:12 PM

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sona

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is it learnable yet

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 4:14 PM

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Ummm yeah

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 4:15 PM

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chilly urchin https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WSlLJS54HvBgEhFrwJlaTU_VXrooofKF0zD5fPQv...

This

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 4:15 PM

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chilly urchin I need to say something about ka though: it needs 2 be hella updated

Important

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Ummm other stuff

wicked hedge Apr 15, 2024, 4:17 PM

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chilly urchin This

wonderful

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i may do that

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 4:20 PM

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wawa!!! If you need any clarification on anything feel free 2 ask

remote junco Apr 15, 2024, 4:26 PM

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I need to work on more gisi aaaaa

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I’ve just kind of been like sludgebrain lately

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 4:29 PM

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SAME

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I'm like ghngnnghn I neeeeeeed to gisiiiiiiii (neurodivrrgency burden)

remote junco Apr 15, 2024, 4:35 PM

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YEAH

final frost Apr 15, 2024, 4:39 PM

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chilly urchin I'm like ghngnnghn I neeeeeeed to gisiiiiiiii (neurodivrrgency burden)

ugh mood

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 4:39 PM

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I've just been mesmerized by the allure of Vietnamese + mi wile lon kiwen lete sama akesi

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But like fucked up inverted akesi

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Fucked up And Twisted

final frost Apr 15, 2024, 4:40 PM

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"i want to learn/do X"
brain says no

wind compass Apr 15, 2024, 5:25 PM

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same omg

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i wanted to learn some of this and also sitelen sitelen (i did not

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 5:30 PM

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Fuuuuck sitelen suwi fail

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I forgor

remote junco Apr 15, 2024, 5:30 PM

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honey if you need help with sitelen suwi i can help out uwu

wind compass Apr 15, 2024, 5:30 PM

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aw
it's mostly that I never started

remote junco Apr 15, 2024, 5:32 PM

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fair

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it’s worth it imo

wind compass Apr 15, 2024, 5:32 PM

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trutru!

remote junco Apr 15, 2024, 5:32 PM

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if you need things to draw it’s good practice

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 5:33 PM

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I need to stylize sitelen suwi as soon as I learn it

wind compass Apr 15, 2024, 5:33 PM

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also true,,

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 5:33 PM

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I am going to ANGLE you

wind compass Apr 15, 2024, 5:33 PM

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chilly urchin I need to stylize sitelen suwi as soon as I learn it

amazing
times new roman sitelen suwi

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plus I don't think I've ever learned a non linear writing system before so that will be interesting and coole

final frost Apr 15, 2024, 6:03 PM

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chilly urchin I need to stylize sitelen suwi as soon as I learn it

consider: sitelen sitelening your sitelen pona

chilly urchin Apr 15, 2024, 6:08 PM

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yeah that's exactly what I am going to do hehehe

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 12:47 AM

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gisi las'e guys

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ive been transfixed on spanish so i haven't looked in here in a bit

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 12:53 AM

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chilly urchin I've just been mesmerized by the allure of Vietnamese + mi wile lon kiwen lete s...

lol ....

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 12:57 AM

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atomic halo ive been transfixed on spanish so i haven't looked in here in a bit

😭

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 12:58 AM

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the language learning siblings

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 12:58 AM

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TRUEE

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 12:59 AM

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you both just like traded your languages

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:01 AM

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exaaactly

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:01 AM

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ah if only I had anything to contribute

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:02 AM

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youre also learning spanish so we can eat shit together

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:02 AM

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verdaddd

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:02 AM

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Yeah like ur literally also learning Spanish

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Smirks..... I'd learn english but.... 💅 u know how it is

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:03 AM

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I know but like !! I was cursed with (essentially) Monolingual English

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although now I know toki pona and am learning Spanish so that’s not really true

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:03 AM

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hehehe

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:04 AM

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but I hope you catch my drift I just don’t have any languages that aren’t already being known to contribute :(

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multilingualism go brrr

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:05 AM

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Hehehe it's ok

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:05 AM

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I should start learning Vietnamese tbh

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I’ve been thinking about it for a while

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:05 AM

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You should....

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It's so

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Looks back at my convo with kai

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:06 AM

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where I live there are a lot of both Vietnamese- and Spanish-speaking immigrants

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well also Brazilians but like I run into Way more Spanish speakers here

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:06 AM

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were actually the spirit of vietnamese and spanish immigrants taking form on your computer

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:06 AM

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EXACTLY

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:06 AM

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true…

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:09 AM

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Tiếng Việt tuyệt vời

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Me in my mind going "sfjrx"

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I visualize it ih my mind s ey

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:10 AM

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I like diacritics

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Vietnamese actually does them in a really good way for the Latin script

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:11 AM

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tuyệt vời thật! tuyệt vời lắm! thật tuyệt vời!

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:11 AM

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I have seen. Much worse and more boring

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thinking about kokanu’s abugida

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:12 AM

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perks my huge ear up

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:14 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1047296782037692486/1229504674676215910/C4B1-C9B9-C9B5-C9B5-C994-x-x-C99B-CA9C-CAAD-v0-varz5f7x8hnb1.png

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have this meme that I found in the tuki tiki server when it was being talked about

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:16 AM

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GOD

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:16 AM

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Why it look like that

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:18 AM

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honestly. so irresponsible!

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:18 AM

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this is like borderline unreadable and boring at the same time

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:19 AM

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Like idk this doesn't tell me anything

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Mayube if I learnt about it more

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But like idk

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When there's a latin script used and it just looks Strange like this it'ws like

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:19 AM

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nasalized thorn

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:20 AM

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shrujs

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:21 AM

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I don’t really know what this says tbh

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but just looking at the system makes me feel kind of uninspired

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:22 AM

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Like I thgink my issue is just likeeeee

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Commit to something ig (channeling my inner biphobic rn)

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:23 AM

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inner biphobic dineicjsnxjjaak

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:23 AM

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Like make it look different enough or something but this is like ipa symbols with some swanky letters

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:25 AM

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tbhh

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she could never be inh anh ong

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:26 AM

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nh

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:26 AM

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coda nh which is pronounced ŋ

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:26 AM

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so brave of her

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:27 AM

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actually i change my answer she is also ɲ idk im being native speaker exposed to the horrors rn

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:28 AM

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Yeah I was like erm

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she is ñ

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:28 AM

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you kind of dipthongize the vowel into an i before every -nh so it ends more comfortably as a palatal than a velar

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LOL im just used to being like "oh English -ing is just like vietnamese -inh like you pronounce them exactly the same!"

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because like it is a good enough approximation to explain to other people learning english i think

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with anh it's definitely a palatal but with inh its just like. either or i don't really notice a difference Externally

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:29 AM

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nods

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:31 AM

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really good time for both the n and h keys specifically on my laptop to die so i can't look it up

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:31 AM

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DKNHBJDBJHGDGFVHJ WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Conspiring

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:32 AM

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(Hà Nội) IPA(key): [tïŋ˧˧]

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oh okay i was half right

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(Hà Nội) IPA(key): [ʔajŋ̟˧˧]
(Huế) IPA(key): [ʔɛɲ˧˧]
oh okay i also have northerner disease

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:33 AM

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Yeah u do

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:33 AM

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what's the plus diacritic again

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:33 AM

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I like have 2 specifically learn Northern Dialect because of u

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/pawesome

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:33 AM

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HAHAHA IM SORRYYY

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:34 AM

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It's ok all I ask in return is u don't learn Spain Spanish

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:35 AM

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every day i open the duolingo voiceline and she says edzha and JOsé to me like a wicked siren

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:35 AM

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I mean

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Ella is kinda edzha

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But

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nnnghmhnhm not really idk

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It's not eja

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It's like a petite twink dz

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But duolingo is weird

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:36 AM

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she's a super soft edzha like an eja that got just a little too close to the palate

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the north actually is where the capital is btw and its considered like the more "formal" accent

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some people here like discriminate against other parts of the country because we think they're Poor and Slimy and Conniving

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:37 AM

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?????????? the ufck

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:37 AM

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because like. 50 or so ethnicities and there's a single majority one you know how it is

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Ig it's the same here kinda but not really

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Some parts are just considered like that but they're scattered

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:38 AM

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it's also like. a lot of the other parts is mountaineos regions we love our mountains

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so afaik the big cities down there are along the shoreline primarily

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they teach you the southern accent i guess because like. it's kind of established that the northern accent is the Formal one that you hear on the news while the southern accent is the accent of the people

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barring any dialectical differences notherners can understand southern accent well enough

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that's not what that's called.

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any dialect differences

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:40 AM

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nods I see

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I should learn the southern acccent at some point too just so I know more than u

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:41 AM

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they have [j] over there it's sooo scary

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:42 AM

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DNJKHLDBJHGD

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:43 AM

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chilly urchin It's like a petite twink dz

bsjdbjdj

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I always pronounce mis elles como mis is griegas porque yo no podía pronunciar sus diferencias

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:46 AM

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jejejeje

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It's ok I do that too

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Sometimes mostly i think

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Idk

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I just know I have a Fun thing going on

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twirls my eyelashes Kolisin can u roll ur rs btw I forgot if u could or not

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:47 AM

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puedo

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:47 AM

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@atomic halo ok call her a ghoul.

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:47 AM

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chenkfkdj

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:49 AM

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I was explaining to him how the trill is present even when the word is short

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And I recorded myself pronouncing "carro" fast

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And he said it was GHOULISH !!!!!!!

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:52 AM

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remote junco I always pronounce mis elles como mis is griegas porque yo no podía pronunciar s...

inb4 dialects YA SÉ pero hablo desde apróximanto(?) lateral palatal

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:53 AM

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nmmmnm hablo desde?

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:53 AM

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probably could drop the desde

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“to talk about …”

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:53 AM

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Ohhh

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"acerca del" :]

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:54 AM

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🧠

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me when I talk around something

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in the vicinity of something

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:54 AM

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Yeah hm I guess it do be kinda dat

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 1:55 AM

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chilly urchin <@200107086758150144> ok call her a ghoul.

ghoul.

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:55 AM

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this is reminding me of afuera and I was like whoa cool

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:56 AM

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Afuera....

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She went outside and felt breezy tbh

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 1:56 AM

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lon…

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oh that reminds me I need to look up the etymology of birria

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ah yes it comes from the Latin word for boar and it means garbage slop

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 1:59 AM

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😭

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 2:00 AM

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also afuera comes from fuera which in that context meant the exact same thing

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yo fuera fuera

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Nods nods

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Although for me it's more common to say afuera

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Except for when it's the funny "scram"

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FUERA!!!

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:01 AM

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fuera like puwa

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 2:01 AM

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fdghgh

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:03 AM

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guys.. no tengo una reserva en el hotel

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:03 AM

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Remember the tenpo weka when she was called puwa Kolisin (stroking my beard)

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:03 AM

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tbh. tbh

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:03 AM

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atomic halo guys.. no tengo una reserva en el hotel

I say this all day all the time tbh thank god duolingo is teaching you this

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:03 AM

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YEAH RIGHT

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what would i even do without yo necesito un boleto por favor

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:04 AM

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Wjhat if i was a teller at the movies

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And this was like ur pickup line

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Where would you be withoiut it

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:04 AM

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okay well i would be like jaja boleto idk

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:04 AM

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DNB MK,DHBJG

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:04 AM

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HEHEHE

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:04 AM

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JAJA BOLETO ',:J

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:05 AM

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nooo dont boletes youre so bonito jaja

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:05 AM

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DKJBHDJBHGVBD

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:06 AM

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is boletes anything btw i realized i was conjugation a noun then decided to keep it

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:06 AM

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Well

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Boleto is ticket
And boleta is also a type of ticket (can also be a bill or a slip)

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So bolete is clearly the mnissing gender neutral

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Also ig if you said "boletees" it would be the present 2nd person singular subjunctive

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Of "boletear" but that's not a verb outside of like south america from what I just looked up

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:08 AM

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el taxi estás aquí

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:09 AM

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WROOOONGGGGGG !!!!!!!

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:09 AM

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FUCKK

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:09 AM

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"está" !!!!!!!

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:09 AM

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it's so over for me

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:09 AM

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Ur banned from mexico

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:09 AM

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no puedo hablar español

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:10 AM

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Ok u can enter again buit be care ful

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:10 AM

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necesito polla goku

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:11 AM

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Out

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No fly list

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 2:12 AM

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LA POLLA GOKU

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:12 AM

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HEHE

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kusi gisi namunen 'uge si magi ka las'e sigka'i btw

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menu Ka'i technology struggle tweets

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:20 AM

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fugggggggggggggggggggggggggg

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 2:21 AM

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chilly urchin Of "boletear" but that's not a verb outside of like south america from what I ju...

I love it when Spanish is like “what if -ear” for making new verbs

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I remember my Spanish teacher and I joking about “Twitear”

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or something to that effect

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:22 AM

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yo manzaneo tú

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that sounds bad. is there object case for pronouns or whatever in spanish

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 2:23 AM

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¿¿¿¿¿debo quéear?????

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:23 AM

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for REAL

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:24 AM

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remote junco I remember my Spanish teacher and I joking about “Twitear”

Tha'0ts an Actual word

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In the dictionary iirc

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ok well they spell it goofy

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but yeah it is

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:24 AM

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oomfs what's up with por vs a

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:24 AM

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atomic halo that sounds bad. is there object case for pronouns or whatever in spanish

🥺 that's the reflexive pronouns jirl

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(Yo) te manzaneo

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:25 AM

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that's fucked up. that's fucked uop

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Spanish has dative cases 💞

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Well they're clitics

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You can actually append them to words

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"Conócete" -> Know yourself

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:27 AM

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ill como that pan when i get to it i guess 🙄

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:27 AM

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Yasssssssssssssssssss 💄

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 2:27 AM

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devoraste

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 2:28 AM

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DEVORASTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 2:38 AM

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chilly urchin ok well they spell it goofy

¿qué lo sea ahora? como “equisear” o… /musi

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:06 AM

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"Qué es ahora" ?* :D

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Equisear is really funny thoug

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:08 AM

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I agree

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:09 AM

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chilly urchin "Qué es ahora" ?* :D

pero quise el subjunctivo…

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I am trying too hard

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also yeah equisear is funny

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:10 AM

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Ohhhhh

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Qué será

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:13 AM

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remote junco I love it when Spanish is like “what if -ear” for making new verbs

my [mexican] 8th grade spanish teacher told me that once my [gringa] 6th grade spanish teacher (no longer at the school by then)'s son was once over at his house and told his mom 'tengo que pee-ar'

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:13 AM

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PEEAR

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:13 AM

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chilly urchin 🥺 that's the reflexive pronouns jirl

no the reflexives are something else

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i think

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like se

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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We don't have reflexive pronouns for myself

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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yes

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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In spanish me te se nos are called reflexive for

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Whatever reason

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They're weird

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But they're not reflexive

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They're just Called that

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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i was always told direct object pronouns

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there's nominative / accusative / dative basically

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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sama

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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yo me mi, tú te ti, etc

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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I have zero idea what I was taught ever

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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wait actually

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me te se and nos are the reflexive forms

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they're both

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reflexive verbs like idk

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sentarse

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se sienta, me siento

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:15 AM

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Yeah but that's still dative

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:15 AM

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te sientas

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:15 AM

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"Conócete a ti mismo" -> Know yourself

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ti mismo is reflexive not -te clitic

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:16 AM

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chilly urchin Yeah but that's still dative

accusative i think

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:16 AM

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chilly urchin ti mismo is reflexive not -te clitic

true

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although conócete kind of is too

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idk

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:16 AM

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It kind of is but like

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:16 AM

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spanish is like. weird

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:16 AM

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Idk it's funky

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Spanish is fucked up

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:16 AM

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wicked hedge my [mexican] 8th grade spanish teacher told me that once my [gringa] 6th grade s...

this is a step up from slapping -o on an English noun and calling it a day I think

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omg no way I’m fucked up too

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:17 AM

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remote junco this is a step up from slapping -o on an English noun and calling it a day I thi...

buso

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🚌

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:17 AM

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send me el checko

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:17 AM

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neither of you have heard my mom's story from when she was made to take spanish as a kid

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:17 AM

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remote junco send me el checko

Ohhhh like the white version cuz everything is a luchador name

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:17 AM

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it is the top level of failed suffixery

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:17 AM

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nods nods

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

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wicked hedge it is the top level of failed suffixery

😭

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What happened

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

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so she's doing a weather report

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and she wants to say the wind is choppy

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

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chilly urchin Ohhhh like the white version cuz everything is a luchador name

sbbsjdj exactamente

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EL NACHO LIBRE

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

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wicked hedge so she's doing a weather report

(because she's way overqualified for the spanish class so therefore is made to do extra things like this)

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anyway

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

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wicked hedge it is the top level of failed suffixery

me when esperanto I think

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

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she looks in the dictionary for chop

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chuleta

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CHULETA IS A FRIGGIN PORK CHOP

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:19 AM

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fhisjjd

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:19 AM

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MY MOHTER

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SAID THE WIND WAS CHULETAMENTE

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:19 AM

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porkchoply

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:19 AM

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exactamente!

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:19 AM

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okay but chuletamente goes hard tbh

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:20 AM

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nooo

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it's the worst calque ever

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:20 AM

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it’s so bad it’s funny

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:20 AM

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wicked hedge SAID THE WIND WAS CHULETAMENTE

KILLING MEEEEEE

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DKJBNHDBJHGDDVHGFDHFCGV

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THAT IS HSO FUCJNGIG FUNNYU

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:20 AM

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literallllly

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:20 AM

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IM LAUG NIKNG SO MCUH

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:21 AM

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oh yeah speaking of weird and fucked up Spanish, los ladronzuelos

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do you two know any other words that take -zuelo as their diminutive

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:21 AM

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remote junco oh yeah speaking of weird and fucked up Spanish, los ladronzuelos

what even is that

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:21 AM

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Anzuelo smirks smirks sm

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:21 AM

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a little thief

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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i have

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never heard that word before

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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No anzuelo is like

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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i'm supposed to speak spanish despair

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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fishing hook

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The hook part specifically

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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this is so nauseating to read i dont even remember what subjunctive is

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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DBKHJGDGVHDHGCF

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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wicked hedge i'm supposed to speak spanish <:despair:827484568998117377>

I’ve only ever heard it in a song tbh

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:22 AM

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Anyway yeah

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Callezuela

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No

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That's a plaze in Spain??

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Callejuela

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Damn

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hmmmm

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:23 AM

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remote junco I’ve only ever heard it in a song tbh

where all I remember is that people call the songwriter a güera iirc

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:23 AM

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chilly urchin No anzuelo is like

Not diminutive btw

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:23 AM

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remote junco where all I remember is that people call the songwriter a güera iirc

That's just a person with light hair

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:23 AM

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I forgot the other word it translates to “a spoiled white girl” basically

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grrrrr racking my brain

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:24 AM

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atomic halo this is so nauseating to read i dont even remember what subjunctive is

it's like

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when something is not real

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:24 AM

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Irrealis mood tbh

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:24 AM

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subjunctive is an irrealis mood

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the one for when it doesn't fit into anything else

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:24 AM

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Yeah but it's still irrealis :J

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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subjunctive is kind of the loose general irrealis mood

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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Anyway it's like "if I were"

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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yes

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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"If I were a rich man" -> "Si yo fuera rico"

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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chilly urchin Anyway it's like "if I were"

it's for any hypothetical situations

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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Nods

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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yes

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but also

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like

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te recomiendo que no vayas a la paz

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:26 AM

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"Seguro te divertirás"

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no

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:26 AM

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that's future no?

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:26 AM

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squinting

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No that's just future

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I was like "ah future subjunctive"

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And then I wasl ike no !!

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:27 AM

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no

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there is not really a future subjunctive

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there is i guess

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but like no one uses it

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i would not understand it if i read it

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:27 AM

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Hold on I'm pulling that one table

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:27 AM

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laugh at the language with no commonly used future subjunctive construction and no conjugation for it

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laughs in Portuguese

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:28 AM

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atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:28 AM

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puerto de waso

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:28 AM

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wicked hedge i would not understand it if i read it

Hah... I would

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:29 AM

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^ can imagine anything

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:29 AM

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TRUEEE

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:30 AM

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tu cabeza es demasiada grande
I don’t buy that demasiado is the word for like “too much”

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:30 AM

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It is doe......

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:30 AM

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muy grande

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this is me being toddlercore and repeating words in different combinations btw

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:31 AM

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i made this jan misali-style video for a school project (took on a little extra challenge), hopefully it doesn't like dox me somehow

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:32 AM

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already with the font of choice

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:32 AM

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tbh

wicked hedge Apr 16, 2024, 3:32 AM

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NO THE VOLUME CHANGER SHOWED UP IN IT?!

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noooooo

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:33 AM

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I read "we will do it when you come" and I was like why is it in Spanglish

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:34 AM

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this is such a fascinating conjugation

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:34 AM

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why are you waiting for me to come that’s kind of gross

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:34 AM

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what do you do when you do first person and they both get conjugated as -o though 🥺

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oh you have to -e -a it?

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:35 AM

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same thing you do in toki pona

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use context

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:35 AM

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nods sagely

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:35 AM

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atomic halo what do you do when you do first person and they both get conjugated as -o thoug...

Wym

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:36 AM

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like both "i eat (real)" and "IF i eat" would be yo como anuseme

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:37 AM

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mmmm no

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"como" vs "coma"

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 AM

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good loord

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 AM

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"No como bichos"
"Ojalá no me coma un bicho"

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 AM

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yo hable español

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 AM

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Oh but "coma" is ambiguous haha

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 AM

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:megamind: no como bichos?

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:38 AM

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"Ojalá no me coma un bicho" can either be "I hope I don't eat a bug" or "I hope a bug doesn't eat me"

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 3:39 AM

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just like in toki pona...

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:45 AM

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Just like in wokey pona....

wind compass Apr 16, 2024, 3:46 AM

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remote junco already with the font of choice

funny enough I used black background + droid serif text for a couple of my school projects

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is nice + jan misalipilled

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:54 AM

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true

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:55 AM

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chilly urchin "Ojalá no me coma un bicho" can either be "I hope I don't eat a bug" or "I hope ...

Ojalá me coma la zorra /musi

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:56 AM

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😟

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:56 AM

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I like the chin dimple apple gives this emoji

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 3:57 AM

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Wait fr

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 3:58 AM

#

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I still find the zorro/zorrillo pair really fun(ny)

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 4:01 AM

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THE DIMPLE

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Zorro Zorrillo

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Made 4 one another

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You have to enjoy how this thread is the gisi gisi (and Sometimes Spanish) thread

atomic halo Apr 16, 2024, 4:13 AM

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and one time trashtalk

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 4:25 AM

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TRUEEEE

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 4:29 AM

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yeah fr

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 4:29 AM

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chilly urchin Made 4 one another

yeah!!!

wind compass Apr 16, 2024, 4:40 AM

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remote junco Ojalá me coma la zorra /musi

omg,,,

wind compass Apr 16, 2024, 4:41 AM

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remote junco I still find the zorro/zorrillo pair really fun(ny)

ikrikr lelele

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 7:26 PM

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[[w:Ol Chiki script]]

opal basinBOT Apr 16, 2024, 7:26 PM

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https://sona.pona.la/wiki/w:Ol_Chiki_script

Ol Chiki script

The Ol Chiki (ᱚᱞ ᱪᱤᱠᱤ) script, also known as Ol Chemetʼ (Santhali: ol 'writing', chemetʼ 'learning'), Ol Ciki, Ol, and sometimes as the Santhali alphabet invented by Pandit Raghunath Murmu in 1925, is the official writing system for Santhali, an Austroasiatic language recognized as an official regional language in India. It is one of the officia...

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 7:26 PM

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‘alapa gisi gisi i think

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 7:31 PM

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Oh wow

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I really like this

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 7:31 PM

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me too!

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 7:31 PM

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Really good

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I really should work more on my gisi logogram script I really liked the keeping of themes across words

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 8:09 PM

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Tbh I just want to make different types of scripts

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I'm on that design neurodivergency

lucid bay Apr 16, 2024, 8:10 PM

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🥺 rea l

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thinking of dat one conlang i heard about on conlang critic with a writing system designed to look pretty first and foremost

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itis this one

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 8:12 PM

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Ihhhhhhhyas

flat wharf Apr 16, 2024, 8:15 PM

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the ceremonial writing system

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its so cool

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 8:19 PM

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I think the reason I'm favoring right now a swirly writing style is because 1) I am angular all the time + Kolisin already working on angular but that's a namako on this point 2) I really am interested in how different palm front writing is

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I of course don't wanna go sitelen telo, but I do like thinking about the naturalistic aspect of it

remote junco Apr 16, 2024, 9:34 PM

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I have like Done Nothing for my namunen gisi

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OH YEAH PALM WEITING IS SO SEXY

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[[w:Palm leaf manuscript]]

opal basinBOT Apr 16, 2024, 9:34 PM

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https://sona.pona.la/wiki/w:Palm_leaf_manuscript

Palm-leaf manuscript

Palm-leaf manuscripts are manuscripts made out of dried palm leaves. Palm leaves were used as writing materials in the Indian subcontinent and in Southeast Asia dating back to the 5th century BCE. Their use began in South Asia and spread to other regions, as texts on dried and smoke-treated palm leaves of the Palmyra or talipot palm.
Their use c...

chilly urchin Apr 16, 2024, 10:05 PM

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Yeah!! :D

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:05 AM

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for LONSIES

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:16 AM

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lucid bay itis this one

oh the alien one?

lucid bay Apr 17, 2024, 12:16 AM

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i dont think this was an alien one ! i thought it was an elven language

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oh it was an alien language

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 AM

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chilly urchin "Ojalá no me coma un bicho" can either be "I hope I don't eat a bug" or "I hope ...

what i would do is 'ojalá que no me coma un bicho' for the second one and 'ojalá que no coma un bicho' for the first one

lucid bay Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 AM

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i am getting mixed up

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fwhebgh

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 AM

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wicked hedge what i would do is 'ojalá que no me coma un bicho' for the second one and 'ojalá...

Mmm "Ojalá que no coma un bicho" sounds weird tawa mi

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 AM

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chilly urchin Mmm "Ojalá que no coma un bicho" sounds weird tawa mi

kind of does

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 AM

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Also "ojalá que no me coma un bicho" is still ambiguous a a a

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:17 AM

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yes

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and so is 'ojala que no coma un bicho' tbh

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:18 AM

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We are going to have to live with Spanish being a little Freaky....

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:18 AM

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idk this is just my instinct

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native speaker instinct but i am the worst native speaker you've ever seen

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:19 AM

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SAMEEEE

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:19 AM

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te bebo

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:20 AM

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me talking to my cup of water:

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:21 AM

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for REAL

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:21 AM

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te quiero

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:21 AM

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tôi uống bạn

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:23 AM

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TBHH

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:23 AM

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chilly urchin SAMEEEE

no you are much better than me

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:23 AM

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like cierto tbh. like verdad

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:23 AM

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you actually probably use your spanish

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:23 AM

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like claro?

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:23 AM

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it has to use its Spanish with my gringa ass

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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i learned my first word with a -rr- yesterday and gave up #amen

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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wicked hedge you actually probably use your spanish

Me living in Mexico and looking around like why is everyone speaking toki pona :(((((((((((((((

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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chilly urchin Me living in Mexico and looking around like why is everyone speaking toki pona :...

see

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you live in mexico

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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😭

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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that means your spanish is probably 200 times better than mine

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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remote junco it has to use its Spanish with my gringa ass

Yas qween 💅

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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chilly urchin Me living in Mexico and looking around like why is everyone speaking toki pona :...

mi wile e tenpo lon tomo lape

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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atomic halo i learned my first word with a -rr- yesterday and gave up #amen

O KAMA KONNNNN O KAMA KONNNNN

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:24 AM

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oh random question

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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FUCKJK

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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do mexicans use 'de veras'

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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Yap

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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aw i thought it was just a cuban thing

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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I was actually explaining this to Ka'i the other day snickers like this -> :3c

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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a veces: sí o no

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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de veras is like the one thing that got passed down from my cuban family that's not a swear word

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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We do have our own unique way of saying "de veras" whych is "neta"

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:26 AM

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wicked hedge de veras is like the one thing that got passed down from my cuban family that's ...

hedjgbhvhgjfd

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:26 AM

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well also the pronunciation sometimes but like

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in terms of vocabulary

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:26 AM

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wicked hedge de veras is like the one thing that got passed down from my cuban family that's ...

families just love passing down swears like heirlooms huh

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:26 AM

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everything but de veras and a whole lot of swears is either bolivian or learned here

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:26 AM

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remote junco families just love passing down swears like heirlooms huh

so my dad grew up with his mother, aunt, and cousin

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mother and aunt were raised in new york, spoke spanish at home

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but they wanted to assimilate their kids

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so they spoke to them only in english

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spanish was reserved mostly for two things:

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when they wanted to speak without my dad and cousin understanding them

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swearing a lot, while not teaching their kids english swear words

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oh there is a third one
speaking to their mother

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but that's not important

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but yea #2 kind of failed

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because instead of not learning swear words my dad now uses spanish swear words all the time

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including in front of his children

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and now i use them

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:29 AM

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God

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Does he say "chinga a tu madre" or is that a Mexican insult

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:29 AM

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that's a mexican insult

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:29 AM

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FUuuuuckkkk

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:29 AM

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a from toki pona

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:29 AM

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Insults in latin america are so varied

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:30 AM

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i've gotten that from mexican friends

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:30 AM

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Like in Argentina where they have "andá a cagar" which is literally "go shit"

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:30 AM

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jokingly

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:30 AM

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So what insults are cuban twirls hair

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:30 AM

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I want to consult my ¡Mierda! book now

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:31 AM

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chilly urchin So what insults are cuban twirls hair

not really sure

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my dad mostly uses coño, carajo, and mierda
and then for extra swear power he'll say coño carajo or p*ta mierda

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:32 AM

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the one swear that is censored

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:32 AM

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Ah nods

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:32 AM

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idk

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i've seen it censored before

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:32 AM

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My dad says coño 2

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:32 AM

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and never the others

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:35 AM

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I like how there are multiple slang words that are linked to essentially English “damn”

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:35 AM

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remote junco I want to consult my ¡Mierda! book now

I was busy perusing this book again

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:36 AM

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hehehe

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:36 AM

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BDJSBJFNSN ah yes, “he (she)” my favorite gender neutral pronoun

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:37 AM

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What !!

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:37 AM

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that’s a new one for me

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 12:37 AM

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remote junco BDJSBJFNSN ah yes, “he (she)” my favorite gender neutral pronoun

what

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:38 AM

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this edition of this book was first published in, well… at least 1990

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before people really grasped that singular they existed

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normally I see “he/she” so this is a new level of failed neutrality

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probably a compromise between generic he and neutrality

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to use an example of what this looks like from the book: “He (she) struck me (figuratively) as a big pain in the ass”

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:41 AM

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You have to love how it's not He/she, but He (bubbled woman)

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:41 AM

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which is true, this choice of pronoun formatting does strikes me figuratively as a big pain in the ass

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:42 AM

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chilly urchin You have to love how it's not He/she, but He (bubbled woman)

the women are special and get their own container to distinguish them from the common men I think

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:42 AM

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Ohhhh ok

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:43 AM

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of course.. of course

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:43 AM

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It's like palanquin

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:44 AM

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verdaddd

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oh do you say la cáscara

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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?

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As an insult??

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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I’ll take that as you do

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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No

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I've never heard of it before

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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oh odd

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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It sounds something that Spaniards would say

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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my book says it’s a Mexican word

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Wait

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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must have fallen out of vogue

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Do you mean like

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Shell

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:46 AM

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it’s translated as “head (of a person)” here

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:46 AM

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Like does it say "shell" in the book

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:46 AM

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no

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:47 AM

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chilly urchin It sounds something that Spaniards would say

the word spaniard flashing into my brain like akira

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:47 AM

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Oh

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Damn then yeah I have never heard of it bfore then

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:48 AM

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I think it’s really funny how the song “dame tu cosita” got really popular in English-speaking circles like 8 years ago despite (I think) them not knowing what it means

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:48 AM

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D DHGJVDGHCFV

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:48 AM

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okay well tu is the second person possessive pronoun, so...

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 12:49 AM

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they were just like “haha funny alien”

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but the alien is actually a creep really

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 12:49 AM

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😭

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 12:51 AM

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dame tu cosita if it was freaky

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:22 AM

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So

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n

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m

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I forgot actually

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:27 AM

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you walk in the kitchen and stand there confused for a bit and walk back out

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:28 AM

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Literallyyyy

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It was like

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Something about gisi gisi

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Ah well I'm sure it was something in the revision notes so

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:37 AM

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let's talk 'alapa.

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i would start writing some little semantic space snippets for my words were my laptop keyboard not broken rn

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:37 AM

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mi la

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'alapa fits well as kon from what I've seen

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but like

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Perhaps even more abstracted ??

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Like unseen primarily

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essence

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:38 AM

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i think of it like the abstract side of kon sectioned off

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:38 AM

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Yeah

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:39 AM

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it arguably has a bit of len in it but probably not in All cases

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because like. i remember we played with ka 'alapa to mean behind?

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 1:39 AM

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atomic halo i think of it like the abstract side of kon sectioned off

me too

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:39 AM

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but 'alapa also means transparent materials, because the materials themselves are unseen, not the thing behind them

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 1:39 AM

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yeah

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:40 AM

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so that kind of interacts weirdly with 'alapa's hypothetical len side

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:40 AM

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Yeah

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Well no

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Not really

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'alapa is the act of hiding but it's not the hider

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It's the hidee

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:41 AM

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then though i don't think "behind" is a good translation

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or i guess hm the ijo would be the 'alapa side of it

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ijo ka 'alapa len - the ijo is the hidden in this case, but what can be inferred about its relationship with the len?

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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Girl we have ijo.... it's nesku....

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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i forgot asf

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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DJBHKDBHDHVGF

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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eheheh

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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mmmm

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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but yeah i dunno playing around with it because we didn't really formalize "yeah ka 'alapa can be this"

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:43 AM

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Good question

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:43 AM

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iirc

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:43 AM

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atomic halo but yeah i dunno playing around with it because we didn't really formalize "yeah...

no yeah this was one of the things we wanted

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:43 AM

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we were just like "ok what about this though." and then did it a few more times

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:43 AM

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ijo ka 'alapa len sounds like "Thing hidden by relationship with the thing" at first, but like

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I do see how it could be the other way around maybe ?? NMmmmm no

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I think ka takes what's to the right and applies it to the left right

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like nesku ka sagke sigka'i is "thing of expansion power" not "thing that expands the power"

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Just say nesku 'i sigka'i ka sagke

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dfor that

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:44 AM

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X ka 'alapa Y where X is the unseen side of Y (we also used ka 'alapa as inside)

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soul ka 'alapa menu

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leme ka 'alapa gisi

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or something?

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:45 AM

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chilly urchin I think ka takes what's to the right and applies it to the left right

this la im still toying with ambidirectional ka a bit

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will be funny to compile like how many of our ka's are right coded and how many are left coded

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:45 AM

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CONSERVATIVE VS LIBERAL KA !!!

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:46 AM

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TRURE

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that's it. kan't

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:47 AM

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IMMANUEL???

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:47 AM

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YOOO

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MIRANDA??

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:52 AM

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GODDD

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Ambidirectional ka is so fucked because

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Sometimes it makes sense because things are two-sided

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But others it's like

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Too ambiguous and Scary

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 1:53 AM

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it's pretty scary isn't it

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 1:53 AM

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evil and fucked up ka

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 1:54 AM

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trans ka

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 2:04 AM

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remote junco I think it’s really funny how the song “dame tu cosita” got really popular in En...

i told my friend what it meant and he was shocked

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i had never heard the song in fact

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he introduced me to it

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like a year ago

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 2:05 AM

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raisins

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thanks phone

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 2:05 AM

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raisins?

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seme a

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 2:05 AM

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I mean to say dbjsnfjjdj

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autocorrect likes to have fun

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 2:06 AM

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oh that's wonderful

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 2:06 AM

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stuff like Kenton’s and Kaleigh’s have popped up before

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okay I need to actually work on gisi gisi and not just Spanish all over this thread

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 2:08 AM

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gisi gisi i should learn

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what osv

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 2:08 AM

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my favorite part was when she said it's Spanishing time

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 2:09 AM

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wicked hedge what osv

no that's- no fuck

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my b

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Ur so right

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I was reading that as ovs

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 2:09 AM

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oh

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ovs is scary

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 2:12 AM

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In a bit I'll make like

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A little checklist with all the things in the revision thing

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So that we can cross those out

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 2:29 AM

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sov

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 2:29 AM

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vos

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 2:30 AM

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vosotros

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 2:31 AM

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Ah fuck he turned Spanish we have to make him walk the plank

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 2:31 AM

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NO QUIERO

wicked hedge Apr 17, 2024, 2:53 AM

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chilly urchin Ah fuck he turned Spanish we have to make him walk the plank

based /j

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 6:19 AM

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I do have to say that I am very glad with the project gisi gisi has become. Everyone here is so creative + talented and I am very happy :D

atomic halo Apr 17, 2024, 8:44 AM

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we are so swagful

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soy muy bonito

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 8:46 AM

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ERES PRECIOSOOOOOOOOOOOO ✨ 💅

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 7:06 PM

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We should just teach gisi gisi like viossa

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 7:06 PM

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real

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 7:06 PM

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chilly urchin I do have to say that I am very glad with the project gisi gisi has become. Ever...

mood!!!

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 7:07 PM

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And then when we have our gisi nation (we have to) we can put 20 people in an island and they have to talk to the kusigisi to get supplies

final frost Apr 17, 2024, 7:13 PM

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fr fr

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 7:19 PM

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Gisi nation is like

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So antithetical to the sort of 'alapa philosophy of gisi gisi

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It's so funny

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 7:28 PM

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chilly urchin And then when we have our gisi nation (we have to) we can put 20 people in an is...

despair

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sesli gisi

chilly urchin Apr 17, 2024, 7:32 PM

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Battle ka get sesli gisi

remote junco Apr 17, 2024, 7:33 PM

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chisjfjdjjncj

wicked hedge Apr 18, 2024, 12:21 AM

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i know what this is for a a a

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 12:23 AM

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true, just linking it for others

wicked hedge Apr 18, 2024, 12:24 AM

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no you linked to this very same thread

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 12:25 AM

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yeah

wicked hedge Apr 18, 2024, 12:25 AM

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because you wanted the thread id right

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so you could link it in tokiponidos

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 12:25 AM

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yeah

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I forgot jaki existed

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consider it recursion

wicked hedge Apr 18, 2024, 12:26 AM

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see most people who see this would not know why you did it

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 12:26 AM

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true

wicked hedge Apr 18, 2024, 12:26 AM

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it is musi tawa mi that i know

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 12:26 AM

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it will exploded

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ona li ijo len mi sina

wicked hedge Apr 18, 2024, 12:27 AM

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lon

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 12:32 AM

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sina nasa

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 1:09 AM

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¡gisi las‘e, ka gisi menu gisi!

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currently fermenting my jasima/utala gisi idea

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 1:09 AM

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sili'ing

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 1:10 AM

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also how do you feel about some kind of pini/moli/tawa (prep.) merger that plays off of las‘e being open/tan

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tawa (prep.) in the sense of “to achieve a goal that is X”

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since ka paka is more like allative

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 1:11 AM

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Yeah I thought that was the #plan

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I like a moli pini merger

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hiding 13 under my bed

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 1:11 AM

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oki toki

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 1:13 AM

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I keep forgetting what my awesome idea was fuck

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Ok I'll just look at the sheet again

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 5:17 AM

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‘upune (from Spanish oponer) — to oppose, to mirror, opposite, to complement, to fight (needs some compounding I think), roughly jasima + utala

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 5:20 AM

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I am going 2 be the first one to say this but do we feel like we're adding 2 many words from Spanish dlmakjnkjbhk

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But I see....

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wym compoingind

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compounding

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 5:21 AM

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chilly urchin I am going 2 be the first one to say this but do we feel like we're adding 2 man...

I had the same thought

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clearly we need more words from English and then we’ll have mini!

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 5:21 AM

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chilly urchin compounding

well like fighting is sort of trying to resolve the issue between ‘upune and you

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 5:22 AM

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can u put this in a sentence compounding

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 5:22 AM

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idk I guess my point is that I feel like ‘upune is not Completely just utala, yknow?

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utala is a component of coping/resolving with ‘upune essentially

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 5:24 AM

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ahhh nods nods

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 5:32 AM

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like for the kind of ‘upune you might not want

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like that stupid bird you fucking hate

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the ‘upune you would want would be like complementary

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like me using blue with orange

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or yin and yang

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or a reflection in a mirror even!

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ka ‘upune would ideally be like “against X”

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 6:07 AM

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the grip "lo utala sina" has on u istg

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 6:09 AM

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dhjsjdjd yeah

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I mean what can I say, without it we would not have ka in the first place

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and that’s arguably one of the most interesting things about gisi gisi to me right now

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 6:11 AM

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mesmerized

atomic halo Apr 18, 2024, 7:22 AM

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i had utala brainworms because of the opposition/challenge meanings primarily

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like mi utala e my exam

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or pilin mi li utala e lawa mi

atomic halo Apr 18, 2024, 9:02 AM

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sesli 'upune ka nesku [sinpin] ka ka pagkan si sagke kanesu

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||grass is greener on the other side of the fence ?||

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'a'e si 'upune ka 'ispi pagkan > ||they had very different childhoods||

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thinking about 'upune 'ispi relationship....

chilly urchin Apr 18, 2024, 9:06 AM

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hrmmm

atomic halo Apr 18, 2024, 9:06 AM

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as for the more tame examples, hn, kusi 'i lus si 'upune > the machine is reflective

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or the machine is built for reflecting light (mirror

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menu 'upune - enemy, complement, narrative foil

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gisi 'upune - echo, response

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 3:00 PM

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i should say like, ‘upune could also refer to like “the better half of me” or something

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like it’s not inherently a negative thing, but a lot of relationships with ‘upune, especially in the metaphorical sense, basically end up being that way

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 3:02 PM

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remote junco ka ‘upune would ideally be like “against X”

this could be like “I did it to oppose you” or like “I placed the two things facing opposite directions”

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like I placed a thing against another thing

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if that makes sense

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probably englishing too hard

atomic halo Apr 18, 2024, 3:04 PM

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nods sagely

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 3:05 PM

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remote junco like it’s not inherently a negative thing, but a lot of relationships with ‘upun...

for example like some kind of cosmic dynamic that need to be in balance e.g. yin-yang, they would be ‘upune with each other but they would kind of need each other to exist

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and when they’re unbalanced then an utala of sorts results to return to balance

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if anything metaphorical balancing could be like a union of ‘upune, of sorts

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literal balancing I guess too

atomic halo Apr 18, 2024, 3:09 PM

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'i menu si 'ispi ka 'upune kulupu - to highlight someone against the crowd? too englishy or no

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like highlighting this person, as opposed to the rest

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 3:10 PM

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focus against a group, hm

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I think you would just use ‘ispi in that case

atomic halo Apr 18, 2024, 3:12 PM

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nods sagely

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what about between two equal things

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'uge 'i keles kales si 'ispi ka 'upune keles mukaski - i don't know how to phrase this actually uhh. i pick the orange potatoes instead of the purple ones

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i remember during 'ispis conception i had an idea floating around of like "can this describe an exception to a rule

remote junco Apr 18, 2024, 3:13 PM

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as opposed to the purple roots hm interesting

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‘upune ka ka … could be used for “but …”

atomic halo Apr 18, 2024, 3:14 PM

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TRUEEE

#gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin