tantacrul style video critique of sitelen pona pona

[rich patio]

is this too much, i can change the idea

[broken meteor]

lol

this is such a good idea

if u give up on it I'll do it instead (not trying to take over I just kinda want to do this lol)

[rich patio]

pona a

[rich patio]

what's the new all quit sibelius button enabled by a switch of sitelen pona pona

[rich patio]

have idea of pointing out that "pona" and "ike" look more like lupa and nena

and saying they work better for something like a chart like this

i'm also considering that the script would be entirely in toki pona but not sure

[brittle harness]

o ni

ni li musi mute

sina ken pana e sitelen anpa kepeken toki inli

[rich patio]

a, toki lawa li sama

mi kin li toki lawa: "mi wile toki pona e sitelen tawa, kin mi wile pana e sitelen anpa pi toki Inli"

[brittle harness]

nasin pona

a a ken la sina pali e toki pona la jan ante o pana e toki inli

ni li ken musi mute a

[rich patio]

n

sitelen tawa tu anu seme?

[brittle harness]

ni li ken sitelen wan

jan ante li pali e sitelen toki anpa tawa sitelen

[rich patio]

a

sitelen tawa pi toki pona li tan ala tan nimi anpa pi toki Inli

[brittle harness]

tan ala

toki inli li tan toki pona

[rich patio]

a

[swift meadow]

“o pini e ilo Sipeliju” anu “ale sin”

[rocky stratus]

sitelen ikej

[rocky stratus]

the glyph with negative space

weka and moli are impossible to write with a pen*

why is every glyph a different size

[broken meteor]

every glyph is a different size in sitelen pona usually, linja pona and the like are outliers that got really popular and have a lot of influence

if you look in pu they vary a lot in size

[rocky stratus]

ok

[rich patio]

i could see how making suli and lili different would be a good idea, but at least make it so it actually represents suli and lili

i just see a triangle, how is that "suli"

[rocky stratus]

"bounce" and "shogi piece"

[rich patio]

huh

what is that about

[rich patio]

can understand this is impossible to write

[rocky stratus]

weka and moli are real hard to pen (ike)

[rich patio]

ok

you know how pona and ike look like lupa and nena

lupa and nena had to be changed

but like

almost no hills or bumps look like nena does

they usually are smallest at the top

not at the bottom

same with lupa, not many holes are like that

noka barely looks like a foot

[rocky stratus]

yeah

[rich patio]

and it has two contradictory goals: to make things more similar and to make things more differentiatable

a and kin have nothing to do with the meanings

a in sitelen pona pu is latincentric (or cyrilliccentric) sure

but it is understandable at least to those

kin has an asterisk used to mean also

alasa no longer looks like bow and arrow

[rocky stratus]

D with line in it

[rich patio]

yes

[rocky stratus]

this is comic sans but with no use for anyone

tawa and kama are still the same glyph but mirrored and not mirrored

[rich patio]

?

for some reason "a" can be turned into a glyph with no meaning besides "it's o-like" (which we ALREADY HAD) but "ken" wasn't

they're both latin/cyrillic centric

but only one was changed

[rich patio]

isn't that like similar to pu

[rocky stratus]

yeah

i was comparing it to comic sans

[rich patio]

a

for ken, at least i TRIED to make a glyph related to its meaning

ken comes from anu

but they didn't even try

(not like they tried with any of the others though)

[rich patio]

will also mention how monsi just lookes like E

you could at least move the line OUTside

or just turn the dot into a vertical line

[rich patio]

LINJA a pona la suli pi nimi "suli" en suli pi nimi "lili" li ante lili. taso sitelen pona pona la, ona li SAMA a. tan seme? jan jackhumbert o, TAN SEME AA

nasin sitelen sina li tan seme??

Inspiration (especially for new/apocryphal words) was taken from the excellent linja pona.
a, ni a li tan

[pearl ferry]

I have a few other things you might put in a critique video.

Using interpuncts (as end-of-sentence markers) as well as poka/sinpin/monsi is dangerous.

‹suli› and ‹lili› in compound glyphs look identical.

‹wile› is a monsi

[rich patio]

what? this is criticizing sitelen pona pona

not plain sitelen pona

tan lipu pu

sitelen pona pona made all the changes you said in a bad way (except for wile)

[pearl ferry]

Oh. I misread.

Okay.

Never mind.

[delicate creek]

nimi jackhumbert li ken ni: jan Jaki Unpato

[river pendant]

oh this idea is fun

i'd like to see the final video once it's done

i just realized that lete is small in spp for seemingly no reason

[rich patio]

a a a

(i think it would be more accurately be tokiponized as jan Saki Anpa of course but uh)

[rich patio]

uh

[rocky stratus]

uj

[rich patio]

ok uh

[rocky stratus]

uh

[river pendant]

hm