opinions on compound sitelen pona glyphs? | ma pona pi toki pona | Page 1

solemn moon Nov 10, 2022, 3:09 AM

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there's basic ones like toki-pona tokipona and jan-ike janike and things like that, but there's also things like ma-kasi, sitelen sitelen sitelensitelen , and pretty much any combination of glyphs - whats your opinion on them? should there be rules as to what glyps can be combined? what would those rules be? can grammatical particles be part of a compound glyph? etc!

hollow jungle Nov 10, 2022, 3:10 AM

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It is my opinion that in everyday toki pona writing, outside of certain established glyphs (e.g. toki+pona), they ought to be used mimimally.

hidden tigerBOT Nov 10, 2022, 3:11 AM

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my onion has always been "only use them when they improve a text"
the vast majority of uses don't do that

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like lawa kasi looks cute as hell, is easy to read, and doesn't lend itself to lexicalisation
meanwhile smth like telo nasa is kind of just dense and weird looking, and only exists bc of lexicalisation

pure chasm Nov 10, 2022, 6:49 AM

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Particles can at least be in a compound glyph in cases like nimi "e" imo

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Anyway i like them a lot and am a bit of a compound maximalist

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I like a lot of the excuses to stack them up and i think the glyphs are mostly simple enough to work with that

hidden tigerBOT Nov 10, 2022, 7:13 AM

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i often struggle to read your sp

pure chasm Nov 10, 2022, 7:15 AM

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I haven't SP'd in a while

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I think i'm a bit more traditional when i write on lined paper

hidden tigerBOT Nov 10, 2022, 7:19 AM

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i've mostly seen it in the context of places like #sitelen-pona

worthy valley Nov 10, 2022, 7:48 AM

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hidden tiger my onion has always been "only use them when they improve a text" the vast major...

woah I have like the same onion on this

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nasin kulupu is another fun example where it looks cute

gentle sierra Nov 10, 2022, 10:01 PM

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my opinion is combine as much as you can

hidden tigerBOT Nov 10, 2022, 10:25 PM

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why though

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it ends up looking so ugly, not even talking about readability

haughty cosmos Nov 10, 2022, 10:29 PM

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it's also so much more work^^

gentle sierra Nov 10, 2022, 11:05 PM

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its not

haughty cosmos Nov 10, 2022, 11:17 PM

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then you haven't written sp with felt tips 😛

hidden tigerBOT Nov 10, 2022, 11:18 PM

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^lol

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esp on standard lined paper

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(which to be fair isn't what tp's Good at, it wants lots of space)

haughty cosmos Nov 10, 2022, 11:19 PM

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lines are tiny
so I don't use lined paper for sp

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a

hidden tigerBOT Nov 10, 2022, 11:19 PM

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lol

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i'll repeat my question, why do you say this?

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[Reply to:](#1040100904101216266 message) my opinion is combine as much as you can

gentle sierra Nov 11, 2022, 1:51 AM

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it makes things condensed

bleak zodiac Nov 11, 2022, 2:51 AM

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i like combining glyphs because it makes my friends that much more confused lol, and i rarely write in sp for anyone but me to read

hidden tigerBOT Nov 11, 2022, 2:57 AM

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condensed isn't necessarily a good thing
it usually just means harder to read and write

manœ ↩️

[Reply to:](#1040100904101216266 message) it makes things condensed

hollow jungle Nov 11, 2022, 3:09 AM

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Smaller, but that's a small benefit.

hidden tigerBOT Nov 11, 2022, 3:10 AM

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it's not even a benefit tbh

bleak zodiac Nov 11, 2022, 3:11 AM

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do y’all ever think about how, to an outside observer who only knew a bit about sp, glyphs like pali and kepeken look like combined glyphs?

worthy valley Nov 11, 2022, 3:12 AM

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yeah probably

pure chasm Nov 11, 2022, 6:24 AM

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they should be

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