#tok(g)pon(q)
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tok(g)
language, listening, stone, wearing a hat, knowing the rules, dirtying hands, raised eyebrows, interacting with the book Toki Pona: The Language of Good, debating semantics
mun(@)
a multitude, a group of twenty, talking to someone using the word "vous", platypuses, a parked car, two people who both have multiple pronouns, a non-nickname name, roots
nan(6) -- nimisin [and electric vehicles]
nan(6) can be whatever you want and it is AUTOMATICALLy official vocabulary if it is used by an even number of people
-a(q)n- [affix]
denser than a breadbox (humourously, formal)
But what if one more person uses it
if it's even, it's official
if it's odd oops not official until someone else uses it or i say "it is official"
hats len lawa, whatever len it is
(g) green cloth (or blue as well)
(q) quilt (or a blanket with pattern)
(@) gloves
(6) mittens
i hope that answered your question
mun(@)a(q)n
?
green or blue cloths are very common
you probably have a blanket with pattern around
don't recommend glove or mitten brand in particular
how are the hatnemes written/expressed?
i assume that's what he's asking
like this
just buy some
PHONOTACTICS
[v]cvn
v: vowel
c: consonant
n: nasal, and k also because i say it's a nasal
l: len lawa
there's also the EMPTY HAT (a)
you wear nothing
on your head that is
i'm very scared that k is a nasal
(as opposed to filled hats, which can be full of rabbits, cake, or black tar)
len lawa? what's that. i only know poki
next root
pok(a)
poking, phonotactics, side, boxes EXCEPT breadboxes, phonemic len lawa, the set of talking planets, the set of non-talking non-planets, boxbreads (breads that are in boxes), lawa len phonemic
len lawa can mean hat but also any cloth that is on your head
no it's ma(q)nun(@)
and if you prefer, you can put on the len lawa AFTER you say the first mora (yes, mora!)
so like you could say
ma
[quilt]
nu
n [while gloves]
or also
ma [while quilt]
nun [while gloves]
"k" isn't its own mora but "u" is
-u妛pek(g)
of old creative works and actually was made worse (number comes after for how worse) like George Lucas
"as bad as 1 George Lucas"
yes
is it usually in the micro-George-Lucas, like a micro-Helen?
Or is it usually more in the multiple George Lucas?
"u妛" is pronounced /yuieu˥˩˧/ but this is strictly one vowel, just like /kts/ is one consonant in poliespo
depends how bad you look on other things
number system!
-osi(a), one but also tau
-tu(q), two
-muk(@), many or twenty [tip: turn "n" to "k" to turn root into suffix!]
-sik(6), seven
-si(a), zero
[x][y] means [x+y] rounded to the nearest multiple of 17
si(a)[y] means [-y]
[y]si(a) means [1/y]
[x]si(a)[y] means [x/y]
so "of old creative works and actually was made worse exactly like 1 George Lucas" is -u妛pek(g)osi(a)
wait
there's no (a) len lawa
here
pronounced /yuieu˥˩˧pekosi/ with green cloth and then taking it off
what's that thing in the middle
ohhhhhh
high-low-mid
"it's pronounced /yuieu"slashjay"pekosi/"
lol
i mean
uh
tone
marking
i'm adding ǜ which is the LINGUOLABIAL TRILL WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
it's special because any word with it doesn't need the len lawa on it
and it replaces the vowel-nasal "vn" combination
i propose a nasal fricative, which becomes a nasal trill if you have a stuffy nose (the trill changes the meaning of every word that has the fricative)
yeah you can replace ǜ with 2 (the 2 looks like a nose), the nasal fricative, to add "/lh" to the sentence
and the nasal trill makes it /neg
if you make it the linguolabionasal trill you put both /lh and /neg on it
so -m2(a)- (idk came up with it on the spot) is "to adopt a starving orphan" but if it's the trilled version it's "to burn an orphanage"
linguolabionasal is burning the orphan and adopting the orphanage
if you replace it with the velar trill you show you are serious
finally, the greatest monsutatesu
change it to m2(a) since it's not an affix really
aighty
no, it's blowing air out your nose
ah
btw since you of course don't wear hat, the (a) is only for training purposes. in practice you don't write the (a)
makes sense
what about american Kay(f)bop(t): phonemic guns
oh now time for the writing system tok(g)=tok(g)sik(6), "language of seven stone"
wow the sik(6) joke tripped me up
ǜ is its own word, meaning the most general pronoun
hmmm how to say "3" in tok(g)pon(q)
-muk(@)muk(@)muk(6)si(a)sik(6)sik(6)
20+20+20 -> 40+20 -> 34+20 -> 54 -> 51
7+7 -> 14 -> 17
51/17 = 3
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why did i even say this
uhhhhh
now "u" is a mora
now to translate some sample sentences
the order for sentences is object-subject-verb
if no object, the subject becomes the object
ǜ m2(a) ǜ
i burn orphanage
what is the pon(q) root
pon(q) is not a word. -pon(q) is a modifier
-pon(q)
done to improve on something
switch the n for a k, you get pok(q). this should not be confused with pok(a)
you need the hat
*len lawa
oh right need to make this
secret ||sitelen pona unpa||
2 2̀ and ǜ are both vowels, nasals, and hats
they include all
it can replace something like "on(a)"
lol "both" for three things
btw when i say "hat"i mean "len lawa" because any cloth is a hat if you try
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ǜ
why does this exist in french but not english
you might ask "why FOUR stones there are only two" in which i will reply maximum stones is four
you might also ask "why lang" in which i will reply idk
close enoguh to writing
Wooww, love it
how do i type in this writing system
interesting way to make 4: tu(q)si(a)tu(q)si(a)
tok(g) -> #.##.##..## ..
so m2(a)tu(q) is .# ..# _ #.## ###. #.
wait i just realized i didn't put (a) hat
(a) hat is .
i also realized that it shouldn't be m2(a), just m2
#. ### ##.#.###.#
"m2tu(q)"
@ hat is already .
m2 is an obscure game console
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this is really funny to me but i dont know kay(f)bop(t) where can i learn
ok i found the server but i still dunno how to learn
good luck learning
ty
is this gonna be like ithkuil because i considered learning that once
This time with subtitles!
Lyrics:
shof(b)vic(f)fol(p)sel(p)vig(t)sang(b)ha(p)ha(p)zzz(b)fish(b)vlim(p)kay(f)sna(f)ga(f)ga(f)
fe*(t)buf(b)mob(p)sor(p)vab(t)san(t)ap(t)vlir(t)sang(b)es(p)u(t)vom(b)ngo(p)gag(b)grog(f)kay(f)dan(f)yup(f)a(f)
shof(b)vic(f)fol(p)sel(p)vig(t)sang(b)ha(p)ha(p)zzz(b)fish(b)vlim(p)kay(f)sna(f)ga(f)ga(f)
fe*(t)buf(b)mob(...
no. worse. it's bad on purpose
It has phonemic facepalms
why would you not want this
And you wear 4 hats
i love hats
if you really want to try go ahead
i have no headphones so videos are off until the morning
look at the documentation then
i am too powerful im gonna be fluent in like. 2 seconds because gaming
i shall
mi tawa
i don't even know how to speak kay(f)bop(t) im just making this joke
gaming
nwt is everywhere gosh i'm tired of it but ok
i'll try to manage
also i'm not following or stalking you nwt
kekeee you don't need to go to all of my projects, its fine
@night finch idea: put all the roots and affixes so far in a google doc
hmmm i should make another root
yes
sun(a)
sun, pentagram, shining orb, to turn something into the sun, sunrise, sunset, solstice, solitude, souls, sorrow, socks, to exchange, to get suggestions from west africa
also can turn into the suffix -suk(a) meaning "exchanged for information about shining socks from west africa taxi"
on a scale of 1 to 85 socks
Noice!
-suk(a) might also mean "exchanged for information about mythological sun gods"
yes it could
best worst word order ever
excellent everything is going to plan
idea: son(6)
kokosila, scone, not knowing/getting the jokes of kay(f)bop(t) or tok(g)pon(q), pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, ordering every frappucino at starbucks, cheesy bread
has this been done yet
uh i'll just do github
otki
nan(6) -> -nak(6)
pok(a) -> -pon(a) [very confusing don't confuse with toki pona "pona" or tok(g)pon(q) "pon(q)"]
-u妛pek(g) -> u妛pen(g)
tok(g) -> -ton(g)
-sik(6) -> sin(6)
-pon(a) means "this word is sponsored by boxbread poking len lawas™️"
if you use a number it means "holding (#) boxes"
so som(6) becomes so(6)?
why?
if n swaps with k, then m can only swap with nothing
hmm
ones ending in vowels can't become suffixes
or suffices?
anyway it can turn into infix
si(a) becomes -i(a)s-
wait
wait no
a(q)n is denser than a breadbox
uh
so na(q) is breadbox and density?
kind of
it specifically means
dense breadboxes, dense boxes made out of bread, bread denseboxes, cereal boxes (poki pan!!), and bread-breath breadth
len lawas
can we submit ideas
sure
idea: -kan(a) meaning exactly 25, 37 or 41 of something masculine, future tense, the speaker is speaking from experience or the perfect aspect
idea: tu妛s(yyyyyyy) a secret hat
uh the thing is, "s" isn't a nasal
oh
let's say that tu妛n(a) is the normal one (meaning, among other things, good fish made for eating) but tu妛n(yyyyyyy) is the SECRET TO EVERYBODY made only to distinguish beginners of the language from EXPERIENCED ones. hat is made of yellow yarn. meaning must be figured out through immersion, like viossa
yes
i'm playing uno but reverses swap hands AND every time you play a wild the penalty for +2 and +4 goes up by one
mi nasa
bruh this has nothing to do with tok(g)pon(q)
pok(q)si(a)
mi pakala
ona li seme
sigh
"good zero"
so not good?
yeah
ike a
which one
based on "sona"?
no
ok
scone
ok
pok(q) means good, but also:
mouth sounds, ear sounds, whole grain fibre yogurt, internet, delicious things, very sweet water, life giving you lemons for lemonade
u妛pen(g)
george lucas, sonja lang, everyone but jan misali [informal], the set of nardi and jan usawi, elon musk, saying something in response to an accident
sin(6)
collection, assortment, menagerie, arrangement, handful, harvest, songs about any of these
(who gets the reference)
likujo?
yes
i will now type u妛 as ü
sama
a a a
anyway bye
idea:sim(6)
seven as an ordinal, anything related to the number 7,
SAMA WAN TU SAN PO LUKA SAN SAN LIKUJO(actual meaning)
ok bye
make a post then
for what
(q)nop(g)kot
yeah
a
so
no*
(yyyyyy)su is a secret word that isn't in tok(g)pon(q)
not even (yyyyyy)us
or us(yyyyyy)
idea: pa(@) sokoban, rules, sokoban rules
only specific people who get the reference can proceed
pa(yyyyyy):||baba is you||
if tok(g)pon(q) is the language of breadbox, then pok(q) should mean breadbox
it makes perfect sense like this @robust bluff
tok(g)pon(q) is absolutely an improvement on language
who gets the reference
and also 
||baba is me||
||me is baba||
actually it's a pun
pok(q) means improvement
pok(a) means boxbreads and non-bread boxes
bam language of breadbox
nuk(@)
animal noise, potatoes, exactly 496,102,204,498 kg of oranges
so -nun(@) as the suffix
yes
are there words to express the previous 496102204497 kgs of oranges
puk(@)
“because i say it’s a nasal” based
nuk(7)
yes 7
7 is anything besides @
i think the server hit its emoji limit

thank you all for the pona kulupu
group good
revive
actually im extending this
you know how "tenpo suno seli" doesn't have to be "day of fire" but just "fire-like day" (hot day)?
like you can use adjectives as related words?
in tok(g)pon(q) it's REQUIRED to use them as related words instead of the actual direct meaning
so like
-si(a) means "zero" but not "no"
however, as an adjective it's related to "no" or "not" so it comes to mean that
okay...
no we need a tok(g)pon(q) word for mu
also does tok(g)pon(q) have a full name like kay(f)bop(t)
no
sad
to say "mu", you need to speak 1 minute of kay(f)bop(t)
kokosila confirmed
by the way "kokosila" in tok(g)pon(q) is "pok(q)tu(q)pon(a)" meaning "two boxbreads sponsored by boxbread poking len lawas™️"
ǜ pok(q)tu(q)pon(a) ǜ
"you speak about me in an inappropriate lang"
whaat
a
a
bruh
i already made yupekosi joke
u妛pek(g)osi(a)
this is "to behave like george lucas and change your works bla blah blah"
more specifically, to behave like ONE george lucas
u妛pek(g)sik(6)
to behave like SEVEN george lucases
oops, forgot
either ONE george lucas
or 6.2831... george lucases
so(6)eli(a) soweli, exploding your 35x35 minecraft base and running to coordinates (54, 37, 1003.475) in the span of 46.37295 seconds, black bags
what's -eli(a)
eli(a) eli, exploding your 17.5x17.5 minecraft base and running to coordinates (27, 18.5, 501.7375) in the span of 23.186475 seconds, half of a black bag(s)
what's so(6)
well obviously one of the meanings is "to double every number in the meaning of the following phrase"
also make it a perfective aspect marker why not
sure
there's already son(6)
it was going to be "sow, exploding the top 17.5x17.5 blocks of your minecraft base and running to coordinates (27, 18.5, 501.7375) in the span of 23.186475 seconds, the top half of a black bag(s)" but i like yours better
okay
so(6)
multiply each number in the following phrase by the square root of the number preceding it, 2 by default. also 2 if number behind is a perfect square
guys jan Kasape speaks non-toki pona
bruh it's babel and never gonna give you up at the same time
a semeee · @ali o kama o oko ·
@night finch how do you say "i kokosila"
‹mi toki pona ala lon ma pi toki pona›
a kepeken toki tok(g)pon(q) la nasin li seme · mi sona ·
ǜ son(6) ǜ
[general pronoun] kokosila [general pronoun]
oh and the verb becomes the subject and the object becomes the verb
ah
is there a dictionary for tok(g)pon(q) yet
oh yeah i should make something
a
a
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/ExtIPA_chart_(2015).pdf the nasal fricative exists
I use the nasal fricative (voiced and unvoiced) in my conlang 😛
casually slips Italian vocab into the already Eurocentric IPA
mu
So beautiful /sniff/
gloves li lon lawa
i don't believe i've mentioned the phonology yet
a
what rhotic
the labial alveolar(or velar for formal) tap
i'm not a linguistics nerd like you nwt
ipa?
is it the weird r thing
ok
take the japanese r, or the american butter consonant
then round your lips
congratulations, you have just made a /ɾʷ/ sound
or spanish non-trill r
tok(g)pon(q)ers don't believe that whatever rhotics exist
like ù
vowels
ù is annoying
we already know how to pronounce u妛 and ǜ
?
yeah
what about u
u is pronounced /ʉ/
n... o lukin anu o oko?
what's the tone at the end
wait how is ù a vowel then if it's /r thingy/
it isn't
but we say it is anyway, since it covers "vn"
anyway
e, i, o can be pronounced like ipa
but in informal speech, they can be more like /ɐɛ̯/, /ɪɹ/, and /ɑ/
a is /a/
but can be omitted altogether
i forgot n and s
/n/ is affected by the len lawa
if there's no hat, it's /m/
if there's (6) or (q), it's /ɴ/
otherwise, it's /n/ or /ɲ/
remember this
we don't believe in whatever rotics
but we do believe in whatever fricatives
s is the whatever fricative
can be /f/, /ʍ/, /ɧ/, or even /ɻ˳/
labial alveolar
mu
syllabic consonant (?)
mu
mu indeed
since you humans can't make velar taps, you can substitute the velar click /ʞʷ/
oh
The voiced velar tap is a type of consonantal sound, reported to occur in some spoken languages.
There is no dedicated symbol for this sound in the IPA. As it is a very brief g-like sound, it can be specified by adding a 'short' diacritic to the letter for the voiced velar plosive, ⟨ɡ̆⟩.
The velar tap is not known to exist as a phoneme in any l...
if anything velar click is way harder lol
a
/ɡ̆ʷ/ then
ok so gü- in spanish
o oko · nimi tu ni li sama ·
o lokon
ala
lukin li lukin
oko li ilo lukin sijelo
ona li sama tawa mi ·
‹ali› anu ‹ale› · ‹kepeken› anu ‹kepeken e› · seme li suli · mi la o kepeken ‹kepeken e e› · ni li lili tawa mi · o toki pona o toki ala e nasin toki taso ·
if you can have a velar tap then why don't we havr a velar trill yet
because our mouths are too slow
uvular IMplosive + uvular trill + water
how do you implosive
look it up
ok revive
tok(g)pon(q) li kama lon?
???
tenpo pini la mi lukin tawa poki ni, taso mi kama kukin ala
tenpo ni la ni li lon
wa
where can i learn this
ni li pini ala
mi pali tawa ona
ni li nasin pi toki kay(f)bop(t)
ilo o kasi ala
o lukin e toki ali pi poki ni
ni li musi a
ni li toki open
mi toki lawa e seme??! "si(6)" li nimi ala lon toki tok(g)pon(q)
finally did this!
pakala, mi kokosila, "mi pali e ona!"
@night finch would also suggest adding the popes hat (must be the current pope's) or the crown jewels to the list
i'll add that to mean a tone indicator for "either very formal or very informal"
perfect!
formality level of ±100%