omori-manga-📖

[deft vapor]

Have u seen the day the earth blew up movie starring daffy and porky⁉️

[quaint yacht]

noo i wanna watch that thoughh

[deft vapor]

It’s on HBO Max

But I saw it in theaters back in March

It was so peak

[quaint yacht]

i.. dont have that

[deft vapor]

I got to finally watch looney tunes in a theater as they were originally intended

[deft vapor]

Uhhhh pirate it‼️

[quaint yacht]

OH IT ALREADY PASSED? IT THOUGHT IT WAS STILL COMING

[deft vapor]

Damn u didn’t know⁉️

Noooooooo

Tbf the marketing sucked because there was almost nothing for it

I’m just chronically online and always up to date with the news for the movie

This pfp is from that movie

[quaint yacht]

i can tell

[deft vapor]

How

[quaint yacht]

well i saw the trailer

[deft vapor]

Ohhh

Oh wow ur aware of the movie’s existence

[quaint yacht]

yes i am

[deft vapor]

No way that’s so cool

I legit don’t know anybody else who knows about it

[quaint yacht]

srs? no one knows the classic looney tunes?

[deft vapor]

I’m talking about the movie

Ofc everybody knows about the classic shorts

[quaint yacht]

ah got ya

i’ve watched the series on netflix as well

[deft vapor]

What series

When have they ever been on Netflix⁉️

[quaint yacht]

well im pretty its js called looney tunes

i think the 2012 one?

[deft vapor]

The looney tunes show?

The one that everybody hated

But now love it

[quaint yacht]

im not sure

[deft vapor]

Idk if that’s ever been on Netflix but the looney tunes back in action movie was there

[quaint yacht]

yes that one

[quaint yacht]

people hate it?

[deft vapor]

Yeah

Cuz it was far removed from the classic shorts

It was more Seinfeld than looney tunes

[quaint yacht]

ooh okay

[marble smelt]

probably because the design hasnt been changed since it was first implemented like 5 billion years ago lmao

[deft vapor]

That’s correct

[marble smelt]

meant to reply to this message instead mb

[hazy ocean]

Im pretty sure it's supposed to be japanese school uniforms

[marble smelt]

it is

[hazy ocean]

But they don't even live in Japan

So Sunny and Basil are just really stupid

[marble smelt]

yeah its really weird especially for basil hes the whitest person ever 😭

[violet river]

In Omori the Japanese Empire won so the US has Japanese style school uniforms

[verbal basalt]

omori live action america

[dim crag]

Guys is the manga canon also who made it

[hazy ocean]

Nui is the artiste

Also the manga is just a retelling of the game's story

[quasi echo]

But worse

[hazy ocean]

So canon or not, its exactly the same story with a few change

[verbal basalt]

wym but worse

[quasi echo]

But worse

[verbal basalt]

arrent all the mangas canon

uz they are canon

uz they wee witten

and that stuff

[hazy ocean]

Wdym ?

[verbal basalt]

cuz they arer witten

cuz yes

[hazy ocean]

Because they are written ?

[verbal basalt]

cuz they are written

uz they are canon uz they arer drawn

[hazy ocean]

Probably i guess

[knotty shoal]

That or it's Omocat being a weeb again

[arctic junco]

What are you talking about? The Omori manga is a retelling, nothing more.
Trying to apply big franchise thinking into an indie game isn't exactly ideal

[ivory sentinel]

Oh it’d be cool if the manga would’ve also covered the stuff that happens after the main story ends seeing how it ends on with Sunny telling his friends the truth

Maybe in the future

[verbal basalt]

well

in a manga its not common letting the ending "unfinished"

[arctic junco]

God, I hope they don't do that

[spiral willow]

You know it can very well end with the last panel and page just being Sunny’s side profile going “I have to tell you something” and The End caption at the corner of the page

[rare granite]

When will the manga release nex chapter
||I know it one month left but i want to ask||

[compact peak]

Ahh... I think the differences in language and culture are really noticeable.
Especially here.

[verbal basalt]

No

[grizzled osprey]

ooooo

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/sunny-omori-sunny-omori-omori-sunny-subway-surfers-gif-7240515363576776796

[cyan storm]

when do chapters release? and is there a good website to read the manga?

[violet aurora]

I know a website called Darklink

@nimble moss Come here someone needs you

Also the manga is currently on hiatus and will be back next month

[nimble moss]

Say wh-Oh.

My time has come again.

Alright, job well done.

[arctic junco]

What country do you live in?

[cyan storm]

canada!

[cyan storm]

ok thx!

[violet aurora]

Is he actually gonna type in darklink.com or smth😭

[nimble moss]

If people searched my username online, they will either find images of the Darklink from Legend of Zelda, or my Gamejolt page I barely use anymore (or maybe people replying to old comments of mine on YouTube that are likely very embarrassing to look back on now.)

[arctic junco]

The Omori manga should be available in the K-Manga app

That's where the manga officially releases in Canada. The release window for the next chapter's already mentioned above

As for the others
It's not hard to NOT default to piracy, come on. 😭

[cyan storm]

i thought it was a piracy website lol

[quasi echo]

What is it

..

?

[cyan storm]

i was just asking for websites to read the omori manga :')

[cyan storm]

thanks!

[cyan storm]

i didnt see the thing mentioned above lol woops

[deft vapor]

:o

[merry zodiac]

There is no easter bunny

There is no tooth fairy

And there's no omori manga

[deft vapor]

Correct

[knotty shoal]

https://x.com/marui_shibuya_a/status/1947492871810298292

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#OMORI

X · Jul 22, 2025, 3:04 AM

Just posting it here so that I can post this.

My super plus ultra reach cannon on there being another spirit who looks similar to Mari but actually isn't

Specifically the one at the bottom right corner

[arctic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/yeojinvevo-squidward-bursting-out-laughing-gif-24225944

[knotty shoal]

Well I mean the devs did say in the past that the game was mainly experimental, which meant most of the stuff/lore in the game was open-ended and subject to change in the future (and also explained the plot holes). And this is a perfect example, as Omocat is apparently now deciding the franchise will have TWO ghosts that look similar, one of them actually being someone else and not Mari. Of course, taking note from what you and other people said against this last time, this won't technically change anything retroactively. But alongside everything that happened in the manga (and future stuff to come), this will remain the real canon for the franchise moving forward, making the game itself and everything related to it prior to the manga completely obsolete and outdated.

In short: Omocat's ditching the game's canon in favor of the manga's.

[arctic junco]

I have two replies

One: I admire the dedication to the bit. I hope you're getting paid well

Two: This man has never heard of adaptations of media in his life, on God

[vapid agate]

So that other spirit isn’t the one in the game
Perfect

[compact peak]

Just by looking at two illustrations, you can create a dramatic story in your mind? Amazing.

[arctic junco]

LMAO

[compact peak]

This is one of the many lessons I learned here.
First, if you have a conclusion in your mind that "this is a bad thing that needs to be criticized," you can create a story that leads you to that conclusion no matter what happens.

[hazy ocean]

You discovered how a lot of critiscism on the internet work lol.

[compact peak]

yey

[arctic junco]

In this case, it's like

Is there a point to it all?

Does the Omori staff truly have all of that in mind? Or is it the ramblings of someone who has too much time in their hands?

[compact peak]

However, I would like to see a ``omori-manga complete denial channel'' created on this server..

Because I'm not

[hazy ocean]

There is just no reason for them to make up a new Mari spirit that isnt even hinted at all in the game.

[arctic junco]

It's not even about "denying" the Omori manga
It's a different beast entirely

[hazy ocean]

It's not Undertale or Fnaf, there isnt a secret hidden story in Omori that the player must piece together.

[compact peak]

new Mari spirit ..._?

[hazy ocean]

The guy think the merch hint at a 2nd spirit that looks like Mari but isnt her.

[compact peak]

Well, here we see 50 negatives spammed before 5 positives. It's certainly not unique to manga.

[arctic junco]

What? We're talking about the ramblings of one user, people complaining about the manga itself have nothing to do with those

[compact peak]

Hmm... sorry, they look the same... at least to me.

[hazy ocean]

@knotty shoal the "big" Mari spririts was drawn by Nui, the manga artist. The Mari in the polaroid was drawn by the same person that did the others polaroids (i dont think we know their name yet ?)

[compact peak]

Sorry, this wasn't a message to you. I meant it to the same person.
I mean, it just always seems to me like the same users say the same nonsense.

[arctic junco]

Ohhhhh, gotcha.

[compact peak]

I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable...

[arctic junco]

And this is from only two pieces for the art exhibition
Y'all already talked about design inconsistencies and stuff over at #snowglobe-mountain-🗻 , which is a doozy to backread fr

[arctic junco]

It's okay, ya didn't make me feel uncomfortable

[hazy ocean]

The design inconsistencies in the base game itself would imply the existence of 4 Heroes, 2 Omori, 2 Aubreys and 2 Kels.

And its not even a design inconsitency, its just 2 differents artstyles.

[compact peak]

Ah, I should really make an effort to check out the various channels on this server...I'm stupid and lazy so I can only talk here...

[arctic junco]

Basil without the tuff of hair on his head
Basil with the tuff of hair
OMG, DIFFERENT CANONS

[compact peak]

Are the polaroids supposed to have been drawn by anyone other than omocat?
Mari in the background is definitely nui's art.

[arctic junco]

Yes. Who, we don't know yet
The polaroids are redraws of old Omori art from uhhhhhhh

2014?

Tangent: I don't like how official stuff portrays Basil to be an uwu cutey boy post-release
It sucks

That's NOT WHO HE IS
Grrrrrrrrrrr...

[hazy ocean]

I mean, that is what he is known for.

[compact peak]

I can understand that opinion.
But I'm not in a position to strongly disagree

[hazy ocean]

The main appeal of Basil is that he is cute. My problem is that I think they lean too much onto that.

But that's just a problem i have with the character in general.

He was like that in the game too, but to a lesser degree.

[compact peak]

This may be an unwelcome change, especially for those who were more attracted to the darker side of Omori.
This may be a misleading way of putting it, but I can understand why some people will be disappointed by the company's aggressive approach to the Japanese market (and the changes that have been made to accommodate it).

[arctic junco]

Unfortunately, bestie
He should be more well known for his other moments ngl

Like his crying
and drowning
and panic attacks

And YES BASIL, PUSH THOSE SHEARS THROUGH YOUR STOMACH

I mean, what

[arctic junco]

How come it's Japanese fan artists that get to tap into that side of Omori more often, it's UNFAIR

[compact peak]

unfair...?

[hazy ocean]

I considers all the bad things happening to Basil also as part of the whole "uwu moe boy" thing.

[arctic junco]

Oh? How so?

[compact peak]

Is it wrong to touch on any aspect of it however you like?
Even outside of Japan.

I can't translate "unfair." It means "not fair," right?
Aren't people free to emphasize what they like no matter what country they are in?

[arctic junco]

What I mean is: Fans in Japan just do whatever they want with their fanworks, and that's cool! Everywhere else? Most of their fanworks are just...

[compact peak]

We are lucky to be able to enjoy it, but it's omocat that made that decision.
It's true that many events are held in Japan, but they're for Japan.
So it's true that people outside of Japan feel BOOOOOOORIIIIIIING.
I can't explain it well, but to satisfy everyone, we would need to hold events in every country. That's impossible.

[arctic junco]

For clarification: I was talking about fanworks created by fans, not for fans. Nothing more

[vapid agate]

I prefer the Japanese side of fanarts cause they have more interesting styles
But I rarely see them going into the darker side

[arctic junco]

Ohhhhhh, fair

[compact peak]

Ratio? That may be true.

I mean…want to see more black and red from the dark side?

[vapid agate]

And also their styles to me are closer to the game compared to other styles I’ve seen

[hazy ocean]

Japanese fanarts of the games seems to be a lot less dark than the westerns one most of the times yes.

Its mostly the characters hanging out and being cute.

[compact peak]

fact

[compact peak]

I want to convey that there is also art that actually "hanging," although the proportion may be small.

[arctic junco]

It could just be the algorithms in my socials, but the dark fanart I see tend to come from artists based in Asia

[hazy ocean]

I saw some dark ones, but it's mostly the western arts that seems to really go into the angst, the toxix part of certains ships and all.

[vapid agate]

Same

Most of the ship art I see from Japanese people is sunflower

[compact peak]

I haven't seen much Western fan art, so it's interesting to hear about the ratio of artistic trends.

[hazy ocean]

Same for the western artists honestly, but with a much larger ratio for the asian part of the fandom.

Sunflower is probably the biggest ship in the fandom after all.

[vapid agate]

It is
But I think the western ones in terms of ship art have more variety

[hazy ocean]

It might just be the algorithm, but yeah, i see more art that isnt just Sunflower, Sunburn and Sunkel in western art.

[compact peak]

Are there any popular fan comics in the West? (Especially ones that deal with the dark side)

[hazy ocean]

I really wonder if shipping wars are as bad over there or if it's really something exclusive to western fandoms.

[hazy ocean]

Long ones ?

[compact peak]

I'm not sure if I can call it long, but are there any that have multiple pages? I'm a little interested.

[compact peak]

I've never seen anyone fighting on the internet. I think that unless something extraordinary happens, everyone generally gets along well.
Rather than being on good terms, it's just that each person expresses what they like and doesn't reject what the other likes.

[hazy ocean]

I think the fancomic of the Pursuit AU is the only one i have read ? Most of the big fanworks in the community are either fanfiction or mod of the games. There are probably some good fancomics out there but I can't really give you any names, sorry.

[compact peak]

This may also be a cultural difference. MODs are not popular in Japan. Also, fan fiction manga created in Japan is basically written in Japanese, so I think it doesn't reach overseas (algorithms may be a factor).
Thank you for letting me know.

[hazy ocean]

Modded games in general are not popular ?

[compact peak]

I think many people in Japan think that games are complete works of art. (Works have the connotation of being art, like paintings or music.)
Also, if the game doesn't give permission, it can be illegal. Things like integrity rights and copyright.
So many people are resistant to even using mods. They can be perceived as cheats or illegally modifying data.
For these reasons, mod culture has not taken root in Japan.

[hazy ocean]

Oh make sense.

mod culture here is so big that many big games encourage the creation and use of mods.

[merry zodiac]

Couldn't it be like different art styles tho

[arctic junco]

You'd be right, because they're both drawn by different people!

[merry zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1069894632969863178.webp?size=48&name=LOL

[frank wharf]

the mind is a very interesting place

[merry zodiac]

Unironically I haven't seen any ship wars so far, but that could be because I'm not really active in the omori community outside of discord, and in discord mods enforce the rule of no ship wars a lot

[frank wharf]

lmao

[merry zodiac]

But omocat doesn't mind modding, no?

[arctic junco]

Omocat has no stated opinion on modding

[frank wharf]

i'd have to assume they either endorse it or don't care

i do think it would be questionable if they begin reacting negatively against it when the community has such a large percentage of modders in it

[merry zodiac]

It would yeah

But omocat has never said anything against it

The only thing they've said is to not use official art on your art or say that it's official (same applies to merch)

[arctic junco]

Which is standard among handling franchises tbf

[merry zodiac]

Handling franchises?

[frank wharf]

bootleggers begone..

[frank wharf]

i assume they mean that they wouldnt want people doing anything weird with the game's assets

copyright and whatnot

[merry zodiac]

omori daydream:

[frank wharf]

too far buddy

[merry zodiac]

Wdym with weird then?

[frank wharf]

im joking with this lmao

[serene juniper]

they sent a cease and desist to the spanish translation team when they started hosting cracks with the translation

[merry zodiac]

Oh lol

[serene juniper]

besides that little communication with the community

[merry zodiac]

Hosting what

[serene juniper]

unless you count the gdq donation

[merry zodiac]

Oh I get what you both meant now

[merry zodiac]

Sending something funny 2 people sent in another server

Don't cry, lil' OMORI fan! Aunt OMOCAT got enough art and merch to feed you your entire life... NUI, REVEAL THE ART COLLAB ONLY IN JAPAN, THE BOY'S HUNGRY

[knotty shoal]

Ok so

Yeah

The truth lore is the only thing keeping me in this fandom

Both game and manga

If this is how Omocat writes her stories then

She really doesn't know what she's doing with the franchise at all

Not the events

Not the lore (except the truth, hopefully), not the manga

Not anything.

[hazy ocean]

You just realized ?

[knotty shoal]

I'm saying this because it show just why there are so many plot holes in the game AND why the spirit mari plush is shorter than the faraway gang when it's supposed to be just as tall

As well as the background of the art exhibit teaser supposed to be just Something instead of being another ghost mari

[hazy ocean]

I dont think the plushie has to do with that. But yes, the reason the game's plot is a swiss cheese is because it was rushed.

[knotty shoal]

And especially the manga

Her plot for the manga is probably more like her own chaotic blackspace right now than an actual proper story

[arctic junco]

A man's rose-colored memories of a series was shattered into pieces
This is what happened to his brain ☝️ 🦩

[tulip skiff]

might as well expand on this

[knotty shoal]

She really does not know what she's doing💀

God she's an idiot

No wonder it took so long

[arctic junco]

One man's inspiring motivational story is everyone else's "Wait, what the fuck???"

[knotty shoal]

Now of course I already knew there were flaws with the game, which I merely ignored because of the devs saying the game was more "experimental" and I expected they would at least fix these mistakes in whatever adaptation they made. I thought these mistakes were made by someone who ACTUALLY knows what they're doing and actually develops games the way actual fucking developers make them. NOT WHATEVER THE FUCK THIS IS.

[arctic junco]

Omocat is not a Peter Gould

[tulip skiff]

if you are pissed off at this just watch the entire drawfest interview

you are gonna have fun

[knotty shoal]

I never expected her to be a Peter Gould. In fact, I expected the game to be extremely isolated and underrated the moment I first found out about it from Game Theory (specifically their Evertale video, and no I don't actually play Evertale)

[knotty shoal]

And yes I'm definitely watching the drawfest interview for that same reason

[naive wharf]

Just woke up so im late to this, what r u talking ab

if you dont like the game why r u here?

although im not a fan of the manga myself you seem to be upset ab the events in the game lore too so its like ? what?

most of what you said arent plotholes either theyre js nitpicks, perhaps the plushie wasnt meant to be short, perhaps its a ghost thing, perhaps the background of the art exhibit can be wtv

I think the game is perfect, you can tell it was made with tons of love. Rushed or not, i dont have any personal gripes with it, so i wonder why you guys do — its an amazing story whether omocat is a skilled writer or used amazing writing methods or not. I personally cant think of any plotholes myself, esp not ones that bothered me while playing

[pure salmon]

omocat llc is filled with art majors with no experience in game development working with one of the most limited game engines in the world. if you expected a masterpiece of game design you're looking in the wrong place lol

the fact that the game released at all is quite frankly a miracle

[hazy ocean]

Tbf they were talking about the story, not the game itself.

[pure salmon]

it's not perfect but the story is close to it imo

i'd have to see the specific story criticisms

[hazy ocean]

It's a miracle they did all of that in rpgmaker since a lot of them necer had any experience in gamedev. The problem is how they used this miracle.

[pure salmon]

unless it's just "the hanging of mari is unrealistic"

which i agree

i think most people agree

archeia and melon carrying the game dev aspect

[hazy ocean]

Hanging Mari is not unrealistic, the problem is just that the story refuse to explain any of Basil's reasoning, and the aftermath of the hanging.

[pure salmon]

tbf it's from sunny's pov

you wouldn't see basil's reasoning or the aftermath if sunny didn't see any of it

sunny doesn't know the aftermath anymore than we do

[hazy ocean]

The thing is, Basil's reasoning is what caused the entirety of the game.

Also, was there a police investigation ? Was Sunny interrogated ? Did they find the truth but only told the parents ?

[pure salmon]

i don't think sunny knows

so we don't either

i don't see why there would be a police investigation though

[marble smelt]

yeah but a plot point thats as important as that cant just be thrown into the story with 0 further explanation

[pure salmon]

it's a small town in the 90s. they're gonna clear it as a suicide lol

i'm not saying it's like. an amazing decision omocat made regarding the story

but i think it makes sense

[hazy ocean]

Maybe it's just because I'm from France, but here, if there is a suicide or an accidental death, the police will still do an investigation to be certain its nothing else.

[marble smelt]

especially when its a minor with 0 previous indicators or history of mental health issues

[pure salmon]

if it's from a minor in the united states, unless the police thinks for any reason it's foul play, parents can deny an investigation and autopsy

and again, it's the 90s in a small town. there's probably 2 cops total. they're not going to do an investigation lol

i do think expecting the fandom to research local laws to rationalize all of this is a sign of bad writing though

but it makes sense within the confines of the story overall

[hazy ocean]

If young Basil was foreshadowing having any mental illness, or a REALLY strong attachment to Sunny it would have made more sense. But here, it only seems his illness and attachment happened after the truth happened, not before.

[tulip skiff]

they werent expecting a game and thats what they got for the first 3 years 🙏

no game

[knotty shoal]

Still watching the drawfest interview but I feel like this is important to post about. Not because of Omocat's development process. But because of what the in-game real world inspiration for the entire plot of Headspace was. Which is to say, the exact same saturday morning cartoons that Sunny wished he could spend one more hour on instead of recital practice.

[tulip skiff]

we are not

bringing the woodchipp quote

[marble smelt]

i was referring to mari suddenly committing ''suicide'' and not getting an investigation, but i do agree that basils character is way too underdeveloped

[tulip skiff]

we are not going that route

[pure salmon]

most characters were underdeveloped

they didn't have enough screentime

[tulip skiff]

we are not fucking doing this

[hazy ocean]

I mean, they were, but at least some were way better handled than Basil.

[marble smelt]

yeah but when its a character whos literally the cause of the entire game its like the bare minimum to at least explain why it happened

[pure salmon]

i feel aubrey got way too much development over the others

[hazy ocean]

It would have been cool for Kel to be more developped. But he is still a really good chatacter that accomplish his role.

[naive wharf]

basils reasoning was so sunny wouldnt get caught, simple. its the easiest way because if he did it in any other way itd look like a murder and theyd get caught

sunny was panicking and he retreated almost immediately & thats why we didnt get an aftermath

[marble smelt]

the fact that he covered it up is not the issue, the issue is the way he went about doing so

[naive wharf]

i think he is developed he js hides this development cus hes gotta be happy for the others

[pure salmon]

it's all sunny's pov

[naive wharf]

but there is no other way for him to cover it up, it would make it look like a murder if it wasnt a suicide

[marble smelt]

not really, they couldve just claimed she fell

[hazy ocean]

Yes thats his reasoning. But there is large gap between thinking about faking someone's suicide, and actually talk your friend into doing it.

[marble smelt]

no one is gonna suspect the 12 year old little brother to actually be the murder suspect for that

[naive wharf]

those arent plotholes necessarily bc they dont affect the plot.. it doesnt make a difference in what was shown, this is up to your interpretation entirely. you can interpret that they did tell the parents, and thats why sunnys dad left, and thats why sunnys mom wont come home, or you can interpret as they didnt but his dad was smart enough to find out anyway, which is why he claims “youre not my so “ etc

[naive wharf]

in a position that looks like she was pushed, w a violin underneath her? i think they can differentiate one from the other

[marble smelt]

lying is one thing but hanging her corpse from a tree and staging an entire suicide is a very big jump from that, and when its just never explained why he came to that conclusion it just starts feeling forced and like he was only a plot device

[tulip skiff]

i will add onto this that it wasnt exactly a quick ordeal to convince sunny of going trough with it

[naive wharf]

obv theyre not gonna suspect 12 year old lil sunny to be a murder suspect or go “oh yeah he did this on purpose” but theyre definitely gonna ask if he saw anything, if he pushed her, accidents happen, etc

[marble smelt]

yeah? she couldve just been carrying the violin down the stairs to put it next to the front door bc they were going to leave for the recital soon

[tulip skiff]

going by the truth photo descriptions sunny was quite literally spacing out when basil told him

[hazy ocean]

The reason the whole story of the game happened should not be left to interpretation. Its way too important.

[tulip skiff]

he had his damm good time to think about the situation

[arctic junco]

Ngl, the game could have been slightly more effective with its messaging without The Plot Twist™

[pure salmon]

disagree imo

[tulip skiff]

and hanging mari was the plan he decided upon

[pure salmon]

agree to disagree

[marble smelt]

yes so they couldve just claimed that they didnt see anything and she just fell on her own, they would not immediately suspect 12 year old sunny of murder solely based on the fact that she happened to be nearby a violin

[serene juniper]

I try not to think about the truth

[naive wharf]

basil wasnt thinking thsts why, he lost a friend js now (mari) now hes gotta think quick so he doesnt lose another to the truth (sunny)
basils always been kinda knowledgable when it comes to suicide/sh/allat i dont think the plot dev thing is true

[serene juniper]

can't let myself get truthpilled

[tulip skiff]

i dont think basils previous mental issues for lack of a better word are left up to interpretation

they arent developed upon sure

[naive wharf]

it wouldnt be under her tho?

[tulip skiff]

but like yeah bro was not well

[marble smelt]

''basils always been kinda knowledgable when it comes to suicide/sh/allat'' thats never said or hinted towards in game, thats completely player interpretation which is the entire issue

[tulip skiff]

if truth descriptions are anything to go by

[marble smelt]

we know literally nothing about basils mental health before the accident

[tulip skiff]

hanging mari was a distinct choise he made

[naive wharf]

but its not the whole reason the game happened? the truth and everything is why it happened, and we get a good amt of that. you can interpret what happened to sunnys parents and stuff on your own. personally none of this takes awaybfrom the gameplay for me?I still pieced everything tg and sobbed at the end

[tulip skiff]

not just some out of the moment crazy solution

[arctic junco]

Killing Mari was a distinct choice the Omocat team made

[tulip skiff]

he tried to calm sunny down (thats how it reads at least? its hard to actually know) and then he told him the hanging plan

[naive wharf]

but it is,, he reads a lot of books and in multiple endings he kills himself + he was meant to do it with a GUN in one ending

[hazy ocean]

And I'm pretty sure the only reason so many player think that is because its the only way for the story to make any sense.

[tulip skiff]

ignoring the whole

knowing how to tie a noose ordeal

[arctic junco]

They already have a plot about trying to move on from someone killing themselves
What's this about accidentally killing someone and forgiving them for it??

[tulip skiff]

which really dosnt matter because she was already dead

[marble smelt]

reading books do not have anything to do with suicide
him killing himself was after the accident
so neither of these was even slightly related to his mental state before the accident

[tulip skiff]

the noose could have just snapped and it woudnt have made a difference

[naive wharf]

i dont think so bc if it wasnt kel/aubrey someone else i wouldve been like “wtf how do they know how to do thwt” but its basil

[tulip skiff]

what matters for the plot is her being hanged at all and sunny seeing her

after that its kinda forgotten about

[arctic junco]

OMG, THE INSPIRATION FOR THE MARKETABLE PLUSHIE

[naive wharf]

in the 90s-2000s books r kinda the only way to learn though im pretty sure he wpuld pick up books surrounding that topic

[marble smelt]

thats a very big stretch and again fully just an assumption

[hazy ocean]

Im pretty sure everyone knew what suicide was even in the 90s

[tulip skiff]

in fact if they used the jump rope it very likely would have snapped in the middle of the night

those things are not super durable

[arctic junco]

Kurt Cobain definitely knew what suicide is

[naive wharf]

yes okay so why are we surprised he hung her??

[marble smelt]

simply knowing about suicide does not make you act like that

[tulip skiff]

having suicidal thoughts and covering up a murder as a suicide are completely different things

[arctic junco]

I'm more surprised why they gave a last-minute cast addition such an uber-important role in the story

[hazy ocean]

Because it's still a pretty fucked up thing to do to your older sister figure lol.

[naive wharf]

act like what dude? he wasnt thinking bc he js wanted to protect sunny, so he tried to cover it up in the omly way that wouldnt get sunny caught

[naive wharf]

i didnt even bring up basil having suicidal thoughts i js dont get why everyones so surprised he did thst bc what else could he have done

[arctic junco]

Call 911?

[tulip skiff]

i mean

[naive wharf]

at that point mari had died he was js goijg thru his head to think of ways SUNNY wouldnt be taken awaybfrom him either

[naive wharf]

..they wouldve gotten caught

[hazy ocean]

He was thinking enough to convince a spaced out Sunny of hanging his sister, lift a teenager off the ground, and haning her body to a tree.

[marble smelt]

again i get that he wanted to protect sunny thats not my point, my point is the insane jump between ''pretend it wasnt sunnys fault'' and ''hang her body outside on a tree and stage it as a suicide''

[tulip skiff]

to begin with basil had the leap in logic that they would have instantly blamed sunny for it, which if you just take away the violin you could just make it look like an accident

[naive wharf]

and she was aleeady dead by then all the friends would be soso mad (and as a 12 year old you wouldnt want that)

[tulip skiff]

its not like "oh they were gonna get caught

sunny proably got caught anyways its why his dad left

[marble smelt]

they thought she was just sleeping

[tulip skiff]

for all we know the family could have covered it up

[marble smelt]

that is explicitly stated in the game

[arctic junco]

Like how Skylar covered up for Mr. White? :3

[naive wharf]

he wasnt convincing him, sunny was out of it, he was js following whatever basil told him to do. also they first lifted her to carry her to her bed so she could “sleep” so she was aleeady being carried

[naive wharf]

they thought she was just sleeping then they carried her to her bed and realized that was wrong

[naive wharf]

how could he pretend it wasnt sunnys fault w/o doing that

[marble smelt]

by simply pretending she tripped by herself 😭 the vast majority of staircase related deaths do not have any foul play involved

[arctic junco]

Is The Truth™ even a necessary part of the game? (This question may or may not also apply to Headspace)
They've already got the central plot of trying to move on from someone's suicide. As it is rn, the game's overstuffed

[serene juniper]

it feels like they wanted it to be a murder but wanted to keep the hanging imagery they had

[tulip skiff]

i mean

[serene juniper]

so they went with basil

[naive wharf]

? they saw her down there, thought “is she unconscious or dead” thne they took her up to test the unconscious theory and realized she was dead & brougjt her back down
theyre 12 they didnt completely think “shes sleeping” they also had a shred of doubt

[tulip skiff]

you would have to nuke half the reasoning of why everything happens

[naive wharf]

so he’d still get in trouble

[arctic junco]

First drafts are first drafts for a reason
It's okay to abandon ideas later on if they don't work wtf

[marble smelt]

you just said they couldnt have called 911 because they knew for sure that she was dead 😭 which one is it

[naive wharf]

she fell in a position that made it look like she was pushed, if she tripped she might fall like, at the bottom facing south, she was completely sideways

[tropic hawk]

so uhh the manga sucks guys aha amirite

[naive wharf]

sorry about that i mean they couldnt have called 911 because she may be dead

[serene juniper]

hanging imagery is peak rpgmaker horror bait though

[arctic junco]

That's the Omori staff's cross to bear
Six long years

[tulip skiff]

in that same line of thinking when she was hanged she probably had bleeding and bruises

[marble smelt]

not really and like you said earlier, they were completely out of it and not thinking logically so even if they were then they wouldnt have come to that conclusion

[naive wharf]

yes 100% but we’re also debating the game here (idk why its in this channel it js started out of nowhere)

[tulip skiff]

we know she had bruises

[serene juniper]

they didn't even make sweetheart look good complete failure

[tulip skiff]

neither case would make sense under a bit of investigation

yet the hanging worked

[hazy ocean]

The truth as a concept is a good twist that reinforce the themes of the game. The problem is they really didn’t bother with everything else that would imply.

[tulip skiff]

if they got away with the hanging they very well could have gotten away with just leaving her there

[naive wharf]

bleeding i doubt, bruises yeah, i dont think they investigated it its a TINY town in the 90s

[marble smelt]

the game says that the music sheets were stained with blood

[tropic hawk]

if she doesn't return like she did in-game then I will cry

[arctic junco]

Vince Gilligan would have done the truth justice fr

[tulip skiff]

thats symbolic

he would not have taken away the music sheets

[naive wharf]

im pretty sure rhe music sheets werent even there in that scene it was more like a “the blood is on my hands” thing for sunny

[tulip skiff]

same as the toy box key not being actually in the back of the treehouse photo

(I WANT TO BELIEVE)

(CUZ THAT WOULD BE SO STUPID)

[hazy ocean]

I think in truth album it was explained that she only had slight bruises and nothing else ?

[marble smelt]

either way someone who falls head-first onto a shattered violin is bound to look visibly beaten up

[naive wharf]

im pretty sure that was just a game mechanic

[tulip skiff]

the bruises would still leave a mark

[naive wharf]

not head first the violin was behind her and under her back

[tulip skiff]

also being literally dragged up and down a staircase would prob just add to the issue

(we dont know if she was dragged but like, probably)

[hazy ocean]

If someone fall head first, moving them is the worst thing you can do.

[arctic junco]

Uhhhhhhhhhh

[hazy ocean]

"Sunny draging the body killed Mari" Theory when ?

[naive wharf]

they wahted to be as far from the truth as possible, if they just left her there theres still a chance they would be suspected, if they called 911 everyone would know it was them
stage it as a suicide = no one shspects anything immediately, even if they see her bruises and stuff theyre not gonna link it to basil and sunny, upon seeing her body they could assume she fell or something prior but after seeing her dead body theyre not gonna use their brain enough to go “oh yeah basil and sunny did this”

[tulip skiff]

that only applies if you think she like

[naive wharf]

she didnt fall head first tho

[tulip skiff]

fractured her neck or something

[arctic junco]

.

[marble smelt]

staging it as a suicide is objectively more suspicious than just claiming she fell by herself

[naive wharf]

All those theories r everywhere, i personally believe she died the second she fell onto the violin but people think “she died from being dragged” “she died from hanging”

[marble smelt]

she already had a weak knee

[violet river]

that's 100% true

[marble smelt]

she was physically disabled thats not that big of a stretch

[violet river]

the sheet music is totally metaphorical

but Mari did die on the stairs

[hazy ocean]

Mari dying from being hanged is stupid.

[violet river]

that's implied by the photos of the incident

[naive wharf]

but she didnt LOOK like she fell, the body fell in a way that looked like she was pushed. the only person home and present at the time was sunny

[marble smelt]

not just implied but explicitly stated in the game itself

[tulip skiff]

i dont think people would see someone at the bottom of the stairs and instantly think "oh yeah the other person in the house totally just killed her by this unconventional method a day before an important recital"

either way it dosnt really make sense

[naive wharf]

never said i agreed w it, i simply said people have those theories already.

[violet river]

Mari died from a completely unrelated stroke during the fall, Sunny is actually innocent

[knotty shoal]

As much as I agree with you on that detail, I would like to point out that this would imply the Redspace scene was based of the final cartoon episode where the main characters find out their friend was the villain and they had to defeat them or something. And if Omocat really wanted to take a step too far (she's too lazy to even go that far), she would have made the cartoon itself the actual motive for everything Sunny did and make his consciousness at that moment more like: "Mari was just a selfish bitch all along so I have to break the violin and lure her into my 'push her off the cliff' trap and defeat her," which would outright make Sunny pure insane (albeit I'd see the cartoon itself as actually evil because at the end of the day it tricked Sunny into believing that revenge is always the answer which is completely contradictory from the game's entire message of forgiveness).

[marble smelt]

she did look like she fell though? what about her position implies she was pushed 😭 a disabled person who cant walk or balance themselves very well who happened to trip in an unfortunate way is not that uncommon

[tulip skiff]

this is a bit of a strech

the cartoon comment was only involved about the STRUCTURE of headspace itself

[naive wharf]

but they might?? you see her at the bottom, in a position that implies she was pushed, who couldve pushed her other than the only person home?
all murder (or accidents or wtv) that isnt first degree is unconventional
i think the fact its a day before the recital would fuel the fact that it might be sunny bc everyone knew his disdain for practice

[tulip skiff]

and not the general writing as a whole

[tulip skiff]

you see someone hanged with clear bruises that clearly didnt come from self harm

[violet river]

To break you neck you pretty much have to fall vertically directly on your head if you do not have osteoporosis. Mari's fall is 1 in a trillion but the way it is shown it doesn't even look like that

[marble smelt]

no they didnt no one knew he hated practicing bc he bottled it all up and was too scared to tell everyone and disappoint them thats like the whole reason for why it even got that far to begin with

[pure salmon]

this isn't a danganronpa sketch, any officer would have assumed she just fell lol

[naive wharf]

the fact she fell sideways? if she fell on her own she’d likely be facing straight. also her weak knee wasnt that weak, she was still upright at the time + if it was that weak they wouldnt host the recital so soon

[arctic junco]

Speaking of self harm
You know what would be based and epic? If they push with that angle even more in the manga

[violet river]

really, even if everyone knew Sunny did it, no one would care besides his parents (whot btw most likely knew anyway)

what Basil and Sunny did was jsut stupid

[tulip skiff]

they dont have the time or emotional impact to pull that out of their asses

they wont

[violet river]

children irl kill their siblings by accidents more than you think

[naive wharf]

yes he didnt explicitly tell them but he was annoyed when he had to leave mid cartoons n shi

[violet river]

Sunny is getting off with 0 punishment

[marble smelt]

it was weak enough for her to be unable to run, they hosted the recital ''that soon'' because this wasnt a short term thing but had already been that way for years at that point

[tulip skiff]

actually

[naive wharf]

the friends would care ?

[arctic junco]

At least that would give Basil SOMETHING

[naive wharf]

the friends were the main people sunny cared about knowing

[arctic junco]

Instead of uhhhhh
Suddenly offing himself in the main game LMAO

[violet river]

doubt any of them would actually blame Sunny

[pure salmon]

like again, small town. 90s. probably 2 cops total. they weren't gonna suspect a murder

[tulip skiff]

i feel like we forgot that we arent talking about punishment in the term of a reasonable human being but rather basils fucked up mind

[violet river]

everyone would say it was an accident

[naive wharf]

yah cus theyre 12

[tulip skiff]

can we backtrack to that

[naive wharf]

not actively, not in a “sunny i hate you” manner but the fg would never be the swme knowing someone was killed jn it at the hands of someone else

[arctic junco]

Omocat doesn't do him enough justice, what the fuck

He should have been THE Menhera character in the game

[violet river]

yeah, but you were arguing about what would be better to do

[knotty shoal]

Just realized I put in the wrong quote when I said what I said about the cartoons. Here's the actual quote I meant to post:

[tulip skiff]

basil locking the fuck in when he hears a knock on his door and its fucking undyne

[naive wharf]

better to do in the minds of 12 year olds, im using their perspective

[violet river]

As we all know Basil's idiotic idea was totally better for Sunny's psyche

[violet river]

in the mind of one ridiculously borderline 12 year old

[tulip skiff]

i know what you meant but blackspace and headspace are written separately

[arctic junco]

Good job on making Headspace a footnote in the fandom's consciousness, Omocat!

[tulip skiff]

sure it still has the point of finding basil but the tone shifts completely

[naive wharf]

it wasnt good for either of them, im not saying “oh yeah this is a grewt idea lol lets all kill our siblings” im saying “idk why you guys think this doesnt make sense for two 12 year olds to do, because it does”

[violet river]

because msot 12 year olds would do what Sunny did, cry, or just call for help

[tulip skiff]

and of course headspace would be based on he watched cartoons, but that dosnt mean it directly affected sunnys character

[violet river]

Basil is saved by teh fact he probably has BPD

[naive wharf]

sunny would js sit there and sob thats why basil came in inthe first place

[knotty shoal]

Which, as I've already mentioned, I agree with you on.

[naive wharf]

ion see why anyone needs a reason or a disorder for basil to do that like.. maybe hes js basil

[arctic junco]

Bro

It's vital as shit

[violet river]

he is just objectively psychotic then

[naive wharf]

thatvwas a joke😭

[tulip skiff]

i mean

i would believe it

if it wasnt because omocat has stated otherwise

and talking about omocats statement

lemme pull some things she has said about basil before

[arctic junco]

SHE'S A COWARD, RAAAAAAAAAA

[violet river]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-basil-i-am-completely-sane-sane-insane-gif-13152296357816364782

[arctic junco]

MAKE HIM ACTUALLY MENTALLY ILL, YOU COWARD

[hazy ocean]

The weird thing, a 12yo, thinking about disguising an accidant as a suicide, convincing his friends, and spending like 15 minutes actually lifting a teenager and hanging her. The game never hints he might have had mental problems before that.

[knotty shoal]

Like "something exists because of Basil's idea that it exists in the first place"?

[arctic junco]

"Look, players! Mental illnesses exist, see? We definitely didn't pull a plot twist out of our asses!"

[naive wharf]

idek how we got to this point i was just questioning a completely diff person on why they thought the writing had plotholes cus imo what they mentioned werent plotholes but plot points that were left to interpretation,, also this is the manga channel so why are we discussing the whole game

[tulip skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254808903921700864/1276948183880306799/Screenshot_5723.png?ex=688265ab&is=6881142b&hm=c864bb11320c07137a595b465d5ab983cb56fb5d7b7bba9c69c68e34a71fd54c&

first of all he was written for shit like the truth

[arctic junco]

My brother in Christ, you started this whole thread by replying to the guy

[naive wharf]

he didnt convince his friends, he js told sunny “lift the body” and a fucked up non-thinking sunny did exactly that.

[violet river]

It is nto completely impossible, irl 12 year olds have done wose shit. But those 12 year olds were orphans running gangs in the woods or the streets of big cities, not a spoiled middle class kid looking at his friend's corpse

[tulip skiff]

(lemme pull the pixiv one real quick)

[arctic junco]

That's how the current convo started

[naive wharf]

thats not what im saying, im saying the actual guy never replied and we’re getting to a completely diff thing here

[violet river]

Basil is not spoiled, just in comparison to the poverty ridden discarded street kids I am referencing

[arctic junco]

What did she say about Basil there...

[tulip skiff]

dude this shit sent in any order

[knotty shoal]

Hold up I think I have another part of the MOLA interview worth putting here lemme find it real quick

[arctic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/patchy-the-pirate-spongebob-spongebob-betrayed-us-betrayed-patchy-gif-27400564

She should have owned up to it

Make him fully mentally ill

[knotty shoal]

Here we go

[violet river]

sounds like she is describing BPD without mentioning it

[arctic junco]

I don't think that's actually on her mind while writing his parts

She wanted The Truth™ in the game SOMEHOW

[violet river]

funny how differently I see teh characters

Hero I do not see as a perfect father figure and a role model at all

Kel just being "everything Sunny needs" is also weird to me

and Basil being someone you can count on?

I am not leaving him without supervision ever

[arctic junco]

I can count on him for killing my sister's legacy!

[knotty shoal]

If there's one character's personality I believe Omocat was at least honest about in these interviews, it's Mari's.

[violet river]

I love how we miss most of Mari

[hazy ocean]

Mari is just the best written character in the game.

[violet river]

because she is so idealised by the living, but Omocat decides to focus on her flaws always

[arctic junco]

She has to be. Otherwise nobody would give a rat's ass about her

[violet river]

https://tenor.com/view/manual-trump-howto-gif-10474459

[naive wharf]

can i ask why thats kinda his character, although id say older brother figure instead

[violet river]

Mari's writing

[knotty shoal]

And probably the only nicely written character

[hazy ocean]

Not as a character. But her impact on the other characters and how she haunt the narrative.

[arctic junco]

So like Max haunting the narrative of Breaking Bad :3

(He's why Gus even became a drug kingpin in the first place)

(And Max is also DEAD)

[hazy ocean]

Yes, but a lot more present.

[violet river]

Because besides headspace, I think his entire arc in faraway is him being humanised and his flaws showing. He can be quite egoistical and self-centred, focusing on his grades and ignoring the friends as a way to move forward. He clearly was not perfect brother to Kel according the event mention by Kel, so making him a perfect father figure is ridiculous. In the modern time, he is shown to be dealing with the past and the mistake with much hardship. He is not the perfect character protrayed in headspace and I think that was the entire point

[arctic junco]

The manga pushed this further by having Hero be a BITCH during the flashback :3

[tulip skiff]

anyways kinda unrelated but its funny enough to bring up

[naive wharf]

i do not want to hear ab the manga dude😭😭 why does it even exist genuinely,, the game was fine as it is i think omori is better as a game

[arctic junco]

I love the manga doing perspectives outside of Sunny's. ❤️

[hazy ocean]

Its mostly a translation problem. He is way less mean to Kel in japanse.

[knotty shoal]

Not to mention this

[tulip skiff]

omocat says in the pixiv interview that headspace is meant to be an idealized version of the relationships with his friends

[spiral willow]

My guy is a bitch

[arctic junco]

He's just as mean in Japanese.

The words just "look" nicer

[tulip skiff]

so aubrey being all over omori in two days left is what sunny thinks is ideal aubrey

[violet river]

YES

[tulip skiff]

sunburn fans getting fed by the day....

[violet river]

headspace Aubrey having a crush on Omori is lietrally Sunny's fantasies about a girl liking him

it is overplayed to a ridiculous level at moments

like to Rococo pictue where she is at his feet

[hazy ocean]

I can't believe Sunny would objectifie his chilhood friend in his mind to just make her his simp. The ship clearly isnt healthy.

[tulip skiff]

i mean sunny makes a lot of characters simps

shoutout to the entire sprout mole race

[violet river]

Sunny's imagination was wild for this one

[hazy ocean]

What a fucking narcissist

[naive wharf]

when did he do that? like the egoistical stuff, id argue he was pretty friendly and helpful to the friends? the reason he focused on his grades was because.. well, hes in uni for med, you cant not-do that. he wasnt home, but when he was id argue he gave his attention to aubrey, sunny, basil? he was the reason aubrey fixed things w the group too. and yeah but then again.. who really is the perfect father/olderbrother figure in the face of grief? i totally understood hero there. i dont think they meant “perfect olderbrother/father figure” in the manner that hes a saint and doesnt grieve or anything, but more so hes perfect in what he does. studying, cooking, etc. i think he is perfect like the hero in headspace, however the hero in headspace is.. 15. the guy is pre-grief hero. Grief fucks you up, but even throughout struggling with the past, he didnt throw any of it on the kids, which is a father thing to do. He cried after sunny left the piano room for example

[violet river]

He was focusing before med school...

[naive wharf]

WAIT WHEN WAS THIS im not reading the manga at all someone explain

[arctic junco]

That whole spiel Kel told Sunny:

[hazy ocean]

Hero has some flaws. But i think most of them were comprehensible.

[violet river]

He spent 2 year studying for med school as a coping mechanism

[tulip skiff]

rococcos paintings

[knotty shoal]

chapter 10

[naive wharf]

is he.. not supposed to focus on school

[tulip skiff]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[arctic junco]

In game, it's based on that whole story Kel told Sunny about Hero

[violet river]

it is specifically aknowledged by him he overdid it

[tulip skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-aura-dragon-ball-db-piccolo-piccolo-aura-farming-gif-15415889693440048608

[naive wharf]

pretty much he needed to distract and get back to studying as a healthy coping mechanism + his parents

[violet river]

Again, I am not blaming Hero

he was acting as a normal person

[arctic junco]

HEALTHY??????

[naive wharf]

ohh

[pure salmon]

studying is a pretty healthy coping mechanism

[naive wharf]

i think distracting yourself with activities/studying is a lot more healthy than starting a gang called the hooligans but thats just me maybe

[pure salmon]

not the healthiest, which would be talking about it

but healthy

[hazy ocean]

He obviously used school as a coping mecanism. But he mostly did that because he felt guilty for what he said to Kel, and still had his parents' expectations on him.

[arctic junco]

.

[violet river]

but that's the point, he was a normal person that Sunny overidealized, he is not the perfect figure

[violet river]

I would say the unhealthy party is him doing to so much he was unavailable for any of the friends (again, as he himself says)

[pure salmon]

agree

[violet river]

like, I am quoting Hero here by saying it was unhealthy the way it happened

[arctic junco]

I thought the whole point of the Kel sharing scene was to telegraph to the audience "Hey, even Hero is neglecting himself!"

[violet river]

I am not trying to smear Hero here, in fact, I like this humanisation of him. His perfect self in headspace is honestly annoying

[arctic junco]

Hence going for med school and studying for it instead of following his passion for cooking

[violet river]

• telling the audence Kel has unresolved trauma he is also ignoring

[naive wharf]

maybe but id say hes still a better father / older brother figure compared to the others. sunny just held him in high regards out of admiration for all his skills, which he does have, tons of charm aswell. hes still a teenager at the end of the day + i dont think sunny thought “oh yeah hes the self embodiment of perfection”

[naive wharf]

that was cause of his parents, and because he didnt have maris encouragement

[knotty shoal]

So like, in the real world Hero is lame, Kel is nosy, Aubrey has no romantic interest in Sunny whatsoever, Basil is constantly worrying about shit, Sunny is a narcissist, and Mari believes "there is never too much of anything," which explains her perfectionism and especially where the expand your mind thing came from in the first place.

[hazy ocean]

It was mostly to say Hero took his girlfriend's death very badly yes. And how his relationship with Kel broke a little because of that.

[violet river]

I do think Sunny though that + I am fighting Omocat's comments that directly state he was "the perfect father figure and role model"

[naive wharf]

In a way, i thought of it as “yup heros grieving too. and kels bottling stuff up”

[violet river]

I am not saying Hero is a bad choice to emulate, I am saying his imperfections are like, his entire arc

[naive wharf]

yeah id say “everyones father/olderbrother figure + good role model” i wouldnt sya.. perfect anything

[violet river]

so Omocat saying he is a "perfect role model" is weird

[tulip skiff]

to be fair kel is arguably more nosy in headspace

[hazy ocean]

I wouldn’t call Hero "lame". He is still an incredibly, smart, handsome and kind guy.

[violet river]

so much more

[arctic junco]

Omocat is a marketing person selling her characters to people
At least that's my read on the pics

[hazy ocean]

Dude saved two kids the second he stepped into town.

[violet river]

like, Kel is not all that nosy in faraway

he is specifically the person getting annoyed at a lot of other nosy people

[tulip skiff]

bro compensating for not saving mari

[naive wharf]

Cant tell if this is a joke/sarcasm or not because this is such a shallow way to see stuff

[tulip skiff]

buddy your name is hero but you are not gonna have a batman ass backstory

fuck off

[knotty shoal]

True. I'm just stating what I believe the anthesis of the "idealized" aspects of their personalities are.

[violet river]

I like the manga making Kel save Basil

[naive wharf]

Id say getting mad at rude people over nosy, hes still loud and weird

[arctic junco]

God, the manga better give Basil justice
Or at least, more justice than he's currently got

[violet river]

he is loud and werid (that's why we love him), but I think people overplay how much he is those in faraway

[arctic junco]

#MakeBasilMentallyIllForOnce

[naive wharf]

wowww he thinks hes the handsome charming kind side character huh

[hazy ocean]

Yeah, its one of the changes that make the characters more actives that I really like.

[violet river]

the only person the manga is doing justice to is Kel

utter Kel domination

[naive wharf]

I mean yeah how loud and weird csn a 16 year old get compared to a 12 year old

[knotty shoal]

This is only meant for the idealized aspects shown in Headspace. That doesn't mean they don't have their own positive traits that Headspace also hides

[tulip skiff]

fucking kel up is crazy work so

[violet river]

yeah, but people kinda pretend 16 year old Kel is like 12 year old Kel

[arctic junco]

Fucking Kel up is like fucking up potable water

[naive wharf]

From drowning? That happened?
i personally disagree because i love how in the game you basically drown and then the first thing you see is hero saving your ass, i definitely missed him and this sold him as “still handsome and kind” to me

[hazy ocean]

If by "making Basil justice" you mean "adding 10000 panels of Basil blushing at Sunny" you might get what you want.

[arctic junco]

Extremely hard to do unless done on purpose

[violet river]

Hero still saves Sunny

it is just explained that in the mean time

it was Kel saving Basil

[arctic junco]

I'm doing what Basil did in the neutral ending

[naive wharf]

Yeah but even saying sunny is a narcissist is kinda crazy

[violet river]

because like, it was CRAZY work that Hero saved two people, either he is amazing or Kel was jsut leaving Basil drowning while Hero was saving both their asses

[violet river]

Omori is kinda a narcissist

[tulip skiff]

kel was holding the camera

[naive wharf]

Ahokay

[tropic hawk]

the manga is going in a more angsty direction when compared to the source material, even with characters like kel and hero, though it's the most noticeable with aubrey

[arctic junco]

Leaving Basil to drown, perfect angst moment

[violet river]

I would leave him too

[arctic junco]

I sure hope they keep up with that momentum

[hazy ocean]

I really like manga Kel

[naive wharf]

Omori… not sunny, how is he a narc if he hates himself this muchh

[arctic junco]

[violet river]

Sunny is not a narc, I meant Omori

[arctic junco]

OMORI DOES DRUGS?!

Oh sorry, wrong Narc

[violet river]

that is the idealised version of Sunny in headspace, Omori

[tulip skiff]

manga is kinda hit or miss with the angsty tone

[hazy ocean]

I really like the few changes to both Aubrey and Kel.

[violet river]

He is the same but better and surrounded by worse people that just make him being awesome stand out more

[tulip skiff]

that part of chapter 9 when aubrey figured out who scribbled the photos while screaming her ass off almost made me tear my eyes out

diabolical work

[hazy ocean]

We dont talk about that part

[violet river]

Aubrey is actually a fucking bully in the manga, and I do not like that

[arctic junco]

The manga rearranging events was definitely a creative choice

[tulip skiff]

chapter 9 in general is insane

[hazy ocean]

I fucking love that. Its great.

[naive wharf]

I personally dk how to feel about this. I personally prefer kel bottling up the situation going like “oh my parents forgot about me in that situation, heh” because thats so much more him than randomly remembering what happened like 3ish yearslater even after u guys fixed stuff

[arctic junco]

I mean
It works(?)

[knotty shoal]

Honestly he seems like the opposite of a narcissist, a completely selfless person, and the kind of person Sunny wished he was. I mean, it was Sunny that created headspace right? Omori was created after, because Sunny couldn't enter headspace with the Truth still on his mind.

[violet river]

not to the level in chapter 9

[tulip skiff]

chapter 9 is overkill as fuck

[violet river]

how is Omori selfless?

[hazy ocean]

Aubrey actually doing bad stuff instead of just Basil walking to her and crying make her character so much more compelling for me.

[violet river]

I think Omori has a god complex adn everyone tries revolving around him

[tropic hawk]

it's a lack of subtlety really

the manga REALLY wants to remind you that aubrey is fatherless (lmfao) and kel isn't the favorite of his parents

[naive wharf]

Id say omori was selfless during the story part of headspace, the fights n what not, and then post black space, um. the throne.. yeah

[tulip skiff]

the funny thing of manga aubrey is that they are still probably gonna reedem her in 1 scene by having hero go "oh its just classic kel and aubrey fights"

[arctic junco]

At least Manga!Aubrey is less of a pussy than Game!Aubrey (Omocat wants you to love Game!Aubrey, please ignore all the times she's a meanie)

[violet river]

though, I guess Omori is the god of headspace, so in a way... it is really weird to describe Omori as anything

[tulip skiff]

which is gonna make less sense here

[naive wharf]

this is why i dont like the manga, i personally liked the angst that didnt stem from random dramatic scenes…

[hazy ocean]

I hope she actually say sorry to Basil oncé

[naive wharf]

exactly why the game is better, it was js classic kel and aubrey fights lol

[tropic hawk]

ok real quick nitpick why do people do <thing here>!<character>

this is a relic of undertale AUs idk why it's applied outside of it

[tulip skiff]

the manga does one thing well

it blows shit out of proportion

[hazy ocean]

Manga Aubrey would fix every problem i have with her game counterpart if she apologize.

[violet river]

Aubrey almost drowns Basil
Classic Kel and Aubrey fight, Kel, just say sorry

[arctic junco]

It's not just an Undertale AU fandom thing
Tumblr does this all the time in their fandoms

[tropic hawk]

even worse......

[hazy ocean]

Just so we to specify which version we are talking about.

I also thought it was from UT AU

[tropic hawk]

[violet river]

I am certain if Hero saw what Aubrey did, he would not be so quick to forgiveness, like he sounds is disbelief when it is explained to him, I think he doubted Kel a lot

[tulip skiff]

sunny and aubrey interacting like people that care about eachother gonna be ackward as fuck on the next few chapters

[violet river]

because things can leave their niche if people find use in other contexts

[knotty shoal]

Oh wait actually I just realized you might be right about Omori being narcissist because I remembered the real idealization Omori has: he's willing to do hard work, unlike Sunny who is basically too wimpy to even work on the treehouse because of the hot sun, yet still worked on the treehouse anyway only because he knew he was helping his friends on something that would make them happy.

[tulip skiff]

chapter 9 had her literally roast him for no reason

[hazy ocean]

She was just being a tsundere dont worry

[arctic junco]

You know what would be fun?
If the manga acknowledges and dives with Basil being neglected from the reunion of the Core Four and beyond

Have him depressed as shit, yo

Like, Jesse Pinkman level

[hazy ocean]

It would improve the story a lot.

[violet river]

I mean, the Basil fight in a manga form woudl go crazy

[arctic junco]

Right? Like
DON'T BE COWARDS, OMOCAT AND NUI

[arctic junco]

(It will end in only two pages)

[hazy ocean]

(Sunny will pass out in the middle of it)

[tulip skiff]

we getting her 2 page redemption arc in 2 chapters btw

[violet river]

aura

[tulip skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-aura-dragon-ball-db-piccolo-piccolo-aura-farming-gif-15415889693440048608

[rigid token]

two whole pages? you're being optimistic

[violet river]

the goat is here

[tulip skiff]

im going best case scenario

[deft vapor]

Bruh

[knotty shoal]

I'm def using this as a reaction image for elsewhere btw

[violet river]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-dbz-dragon-ball-piccolo-standing-on-tower-tower-gif-13558229454457057953

aubrey in the manga

[rigid token]

(It's the only thing I got to see before going to work and the only thing I'll manage to say but I believe in nui's abillity to cramp big moments in the less amount of pages possible. Aubrey redemption arc by buddy appearing in the real world?)

[tulip skiff]

you cant say manga aubrey is aura farming when omori exists

[violet river]

look at her hair in every crazy scene

[hazy ocean]

She is also an aura merchant in the game.

[violet river]

DID SHE PAY THE WIND TO DO THAT TO HER HAIR

[hazy ocean]

Her whole character is looking cool for a huge part of RW.

[violet river]

pure aura farming, that's why she threw the photos, she knew it was cool

[deft vapor]

Long ass hair

[tulip skiff]

JUST ATTACK HER YOU FUCKING IDIOT

SHE JUST 1TAPPED YOUR ASS

[tropic hawk]

my goat is washed 💔

[violet river]

we do not see her besides battles, so no aura farming possible

[violet river]

neg diff look on his face

[arctic junco]

Aubrey seeing Sunny get out of the house after four years (It's 2024)

And what happened four years before that was...

[violet river]

long hair is so overrated, irl it aura farms 20% of the time, the rest it does random shit that usually makes it look weird, messy and out of place, or it is in your mouth

[arctic junco]

[violet river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796384999658094653/1289947298486288504/GIF_20240929_203148_375.gif

[deft vapor]

Sunny when he sees the girl he has a crush on

[hazy ocean]

That's just how he flirts

[deft vapor]

and auby forgot about it so I guess nothing really happened from that

[hazy ocean]

Tbf she was attacked them with her bat covered with nails.

It was legitime defense.

[knotty shoal]

Improvision: in the real world Hero is lame, Kel is too laid back to fulfil big life goals, Aubrey has no romantic interest in Sunny, Basil is worried all the time, Sunny is a wimp, and Mari essentially believes there is never too much of anything.

[deft vapor]

But Aubrey never really uses the bat it’s just for intimidation

[marble smelt]

she does in the manga

[arctic junco]

I know bats covered in sharp things aren't new in fiction
But do ya think she got the idea from Negan? :3

Asking for a friend

[hazy ocean]

Im pretty sure she also uses her swing animation in RW.

[arctic junco]

If it helps, some comments in Reddit brought up that
Aubrey's attack stat raised by only 3 with her bat equipped

Sunny with his knife equipped? 20

Something about keeping in line who actually uses what or whatever

[naive wharf]

bro howndo people love the manga😭😭

why was this created genuinely

[marble smelt]

because omocat is a weeb

[naive wharf]

omori shouldve stayed as a game why r we milking it

the stories over man fym then that only leaves you shut in!!

how r we gonna redeem her after this honestly

[marble smelt]

because omocat likes money

[naive wharf]

in the game it made sense wtf is going on over here

[naive wharf]

the day i die is the day people leave their finished stories alone

how r we gonna go “oh yeah i just made a hit game that everybody loves and deems as perfect writing… lets ruin it all with the addition of a manga”

[tulip skiff]

because omocats job is to make money not to make videogames

[hazy ocean]

It didnt in the game either.

[naive wharf]

what didnt? i personally think it did. but making aubrey a total bitch to EVERYONE in her line of sight is not it

[hazy ocean]

Her redemption is litteraly Hero going "just say sorry to eachothers, we're still friends"

[naive wharf]

no that was her redemption to kel

[knotty shoal]

Besides her main source of money is her shop

The game was just a side project

[arctic junco]

Clearly there's incentive to make the manga if Omocat's doing it four years removed from the game's release

[hazy ocean]

Even worse, she didn’t say anything to the guy she hurt the most.

[naive wharf]

who? basil?

[hazy ocean]

Him

[hazy ocean]

She is a weeb

[knotty shoal]

Has been from the start

[deft vapor]

And still going strong

[naive wharf]

in the manga she barely hurt sunny, but she apologised to him anyway which cleared it up
kel and aubrey were mutually bickering so hero controlled that fight by asking for a mutual apology, so it worked.
she expressed extreme guilt over what she did to basil (plus basil isnt innocent either, they both did wrong things and aubrey was so guilty she cried) and thats why she stayed over at basils to apologize (depending on your ending, she either gets the chance to or not, in the good ending they seem to mutually clear everything up at the hospital bed) ……so its time to make a manga where she does 10x worse yet doesnt apologize any more

[hazy ocean]

She might apologize too in the manga.

[naive wharf]

but in the game she worked as a traumatized teen angry at the world bc she doesnt know better, when kids grief they think theyre in the eye of the storm with the grief swirling around them. they dk ab anyone elses grief
in the manga she just seems like a total bitch

[hazy ocean]

She might even get to ACTUALLY say "im sorry" to Basil.

[naive wharf]

doubt its gonna be any more than she does in the game, and if so, then why r they changing the story this much?

infact the dialogue w kel about heros grief was completely optional but its the main attraction in the manga

[naive wharf]

she did in the good ending tho

[arctic junco]

Where?

[violet river]

how does tha manga ruin anything?

I think people really need to separate different canons from each other, as well as authorial claims about anything

[hazy ocean]

Because its litteraly the only piece of Kel angst that exists in the game. Its really important to both him and Hero. It was always stupid that the dialogue is optional.

[naive wharf]

hospital scene, although not explicitly shown she talked it out with basil personally (and shes just always expressing guilt post treehouse scene)

[violet river]

it being optional in the game is insane

it is like top 10 faraway moments

both in writing and importance

[hazy ocean]

Yes

[naive wharf]

i guess it was, but i liked it as subtle angst. there are millions of videos online that animate this scene, in thr manga they keep bringing it up 3 years later

[naive wharf]

I guess so but still i have my gripes w how it was portrayed in the manga

[arctic junco]

And those videos are fan-made

[hazy ocean]

Its just way too important to not be mentionned in the manga.

[arctic junco]

It hits different when an official piece of media tackles something rather than a fan-made piece

[naive wharf]

Omori just works as a game, as a manga the protag thing doesnt work, the characters look like theyre being ‘expanded on’ but theyre not, theyre just being changed. the characters r perfect in the game i dont understand how people say theyre “not developed” they are, you just have to see it because its in sunnys perspective

[arctic junco]

Okay, so she didn't say "I'm sorry" to Basil in the game

[naive wharf]

Not shown. But she did

[naive wharf]

thats kind of a good thing? people are expanding on it in their own way but in the manga having that scene flash in your face everytime hero talks is lowkey crazy they already patched thjngs up

[hazy ocean]

They didn’t

They just both act like it wasn’t a big deal.

[arctic junco]

(When, in reality, it is.)

[You see, audience in the back, this ties in with the theme of "Everyone in the friend group has baggage"]

[naive wharf]

?? Kel said after he gsined his senses, hero hugged him and apologized over and over

[violet river]

I think you are missing my point

[naive wharf]

Its been years since the incident, theyve been actively talking and going to school together

[violet river]

I find the manga nit needed and worse on all fronts

But it doesn't ruin the game

Because the game is still there untouched

[naive wharf]

I guess, but i dont see the need to have diff interpretations of the same story??

it makes it seem like the manga is just “unseen scenes” of the game, when in reality, both are different.

[violet river]

I do not see why one should care too much, it is a soulless cash grab, but I do not see it bringing any negatives. It is net neutral

[arctic junco]

Oh boy
What do you think of adaptations of existing media in general?

[naive wharf]

Adaptations from different people make sense, its their own personal story. the fact this manga is also from omocat makes it look like shes changing up the story like 4 years later out of nowhere

Its like fnaf for example, the fnaf books/games/movies tell diff stories in diff universes w diff characters so it makes sense. In omori everythings the swme but everyones more bitchy

[arctic junco]

Okay. What do you think of adaptations helmed by JK Rowling over her Harry Potter movies?

[hazy ocean]

Maybe because she also think the story has flaws and the characters under-explored ?

[arctic junco]

The books and movies are made by Rowling btw

[naive wharf]

I wouldnt csre if it was advertised as a diff adaptation, it just looks like “omori but everyones perspective”

[violet river]

It fundementally changes the story

[naive wharf]

I personally thought the books were better but it didnt matter because the characters were the same

[hazy ocean]

Books Harry is not at all the same than Movies Harry

[naive wharf]

Thats the thing though. It really doesnt.. the only flaws there really are concern the whole hanging mari thing (which i didnt have an issue with, but the fandom did, so okay) otherwise i feel like everything kind of works out, even if people have issues with them (aubrey apologizing felt okay to me, even if people had issues with it. it doesnt change the story, all of them are guilty and all of them apologized)
the characters arent underexplored either, its from sunnys perspective, this is what he sees. i could perfectly place all these characters on alignment charts and i think that shows that these characters are well developed
Then the manga comes in.

The manga changes the perfectly normal stuff

[naive wharf]

What were the differences? Im not a potterhead so as a kid they seemed the same to me.

[hazy ocean]

Harry lost a lot of his "attitude" in the adaptation.

[arctic junco]

I'm glad that the manga explodes perspectives outside of Sunny's. ❤️

It's as if like he's not the only one affected by Mari's death. 💞

[naive wharf]

Fair, but people treat the two as seperate. The manga-game thing is in everyones perspective, so it just looks like “omori but ifs not just sunnys perspective” which doesnt make it sound seperate from the game, which it is

[arctic junco]

Harry is also much less of a you know what in the movies
But that's because he's not written by Rowling ❤️

[arctic junco]

What

[naive wharf]

This was a reason i was originally excited for the manga, but i cant get past aubreys writing in the manga

[arctic junco]

Skill issue

[naive wharf]

[hazy ocean]

Also some books characters just dont exist in the movies

[arctic junco]

Just like how the movies and books are different
Omori the game and Omori the manga are different too doe

Doesn't matter if they follow the same plot beats, the manga's already making decisions the game didn't

[naive wharf]

i mean to say that people treat the movies and books seperately in the HP world but the manga is advertised like “omori, but its not just sunnys perspective!” so it makes it seem like expanded content but its not.. its a completely diff world, where aubreys bitchier

[arctic junco]

Oh my god

[naive wharf]

The creative liberties feel like retcons more than diff decisions but maybe thats js me bruh😭😭

[arctic junco]

Are you just salty that Aubrey's written the way she was in the manga??

[hazy ocean]

The reason she is bitchier because her bully-side just isnt explored at all in the game.

[naive wharf]

im kidding by bringing it up over snd over again, im not that mad about her personally, im mad about everyone, but her differences are a little too prominent.

[naive wharf]

but thats the thing, shes not a bully to anyone but basil. Kim even says this in the game, they bother many people but they dont go out of their way to bully anyone but basil.

[hazy ocean]

...

Still an awful thing to do ?

[naive wharf]

Not saying its not awful

It is awful

However in the manga shes bullying sunny and kel too, so i dont see it as an “exploring more of her bully side” i just see it as… why?

[hazy ocean]

She lash out on Basil because she blames him for ruining their memories. Wouldn’t she also lash out on Sunny for completly abandonning his friends and never leaving his house ?

[arctic junco]

When the damaged child is damaged

Le gasp! How could she get pissed and lash out on her friends!

[marble smelt]

she only started bullying basil after seeing the photo album

[naive wharf]

Not exactly, she was mad at him for it, but it was more snarky comments, which makes sense. Saying stuff like “good, you finally left your house” makes sense because shes mad, but not “im gonna lash out at you and bully you” mad, screaming at him for being a shutin is unlike aubrey, especially when she expresses concern for his health being shutin later. All of them did that too btw and she wasnt as mad at hero in the manga.
Also she says in the game she was mad but tried to reconnect with the others, she didnt bully one. However, when she tried reconnecting with basil, she saw the ruined photo album, and didnt have anything to remember mari by but the photo album, and “he” ruined that. So she bullied him, why is she bullying the others

[marble smelt]

in her eyes, basil took an active action to destroy the only thing they still had from when mari was still alive, while what sunny did was just inaction
(i know basil didnt actually destroy the photo album but thats what it seemed like from her pov)

[naive wharf]

That would be fine if that was originally her character. Its not though, although she was mad and hid herself away from her friends because they werent there for her, she didnt bully anyone for leaving her

She full on bullied basil for the photos, she was just mad at the others and burnt her bridges with them after they left her when she needed them the most

Kel, hero, and sunny didnt “ruin” anything or deliberately hurt her (again shhh ab sunny, she didnt know) they just left her which ended up hurting her

Not a reason to bully them, so she didnt

[arctic junco]

Does that actually make a difference though??

They abandoned her like her father abandoned her and her mom

[naive wharf]

Uh, yeah.. her apology (hero simply patching kel and aubrey up) and everything in the game works because she just burnt her bridges with them, and the only person she needed to seriously apologize to was basil. In the manga shes bullying everyone for no reason.

[naive wharf]

But thats the reason she was hurt in the first place. She felt like everyone was leaving her, her dad leaving her is why she has abandonment issues in the first place — doesnt accentuate it enough to be a reason to bully them.

Aubreys character is written as a teenager whos mad at her friends for leaving her when she needed it the most, again with the guilt swirling around her, she cant see that her friends are hurting too. Not a ruthless bully.

[hazy ocean]

The thing is, I really never actually saw rage and anger in game Aubrey. She just seemed really annoyed most of the times. Manga Aubrey actually feel broken and full of anger.

If they ACTUALLY give her a redemption this time, i really think she would make the themes of the stories about forgiveness even stronger.

Since she was actually a bad person.

[arctic junco]

I blame Omocat for clipping Game!Aubrey's claws and making her tame

[naive wharf]

But it is there.. for the most part shes annoyed with the friends, yeah, but concerning basil she gets really angry (which is why basil.. nearly drowned) and shw was also insanely angry in the church scene. Manga aubrey is full of anger, but its directed to the wrong things and people. Also, shes kind of protective over her strong feelings,, if she was openly exploding at them, theyd be able to really see how much shes hurting, but shes guarding those feelings. She tries to make it seem like shes not that hurt by saying things like “mari’s dead anyway”

[arctic junco]

She's supposed to be wrath, you stupid feline
MAKE HER ANGRY

[deft vapor]

Why does real world Aubrey get the coolest character design

[naive wharf]

100% bc her hair is practically a seperate character

[naive wharf]

To each their own i guess, i enjoyed the change but i can see why people would dislike it

[vapid agate]

Cause she’s the best

[naive wharf]

This all depends on if they do though. Everything hinges on their decisions from here on out,,
Im already not a fan of the manga so if they dont its omorimangaover.

I already think the themes of forgiveness are strong because she.. almost killed basil, but yknow

[hazy ocean]

Same, its something i really didn’t like with game Aubrey.

[arctic junco]

A moment that was certainly acknowledged just to have Hero make his redebut
And that's about it

It's fans that give the moment the weight it (rightfully) deserves

[hazy ocean]

And she apologize to everyone about that EXCEPT Basil.

[naive wharf]

i dunno, it didnt bother me while playing, i think that the gameplay is perfect actually, these are issues that arise when youre washing dishes 3 months after finishing the game and you randomly think about it again
i think it wouldve done some good if they SPECIFICALLY referred to it later, but it was addressed as kel was clearly mad at her about it and aubrey apologized for everything and expressed guilt at being horrible

[naive wharf]

Basil was in the washroom trying to kill himself man😭😭

[arctic junco]

That's his bedroom.

[naive wharf]

Oh yeah he was in the bedroom first,, i was referring to the bathroom scene later

[arctic junco]

No.

[naive wharf]

Thats why she stayed over, she had the intention of apologizing in person (and tried through the door)
But he was um, busy. You can be sure that she apologized at the hospital later although we didnt explicitly see it before the “i have to tell you guys something”

[hazy ocean]

I know. But they could have shown a single moment of her apologizing later in the game.

[arctic junco]

Basil broke down in the bathroom. He tried killing himself in the bedroom when the fight between him and Sunny happened

[naive wharf]

My memory is hazy but i think my point still stands, right? That he wasnt available.

[hazy ocean]

The thing is. Yes Omocat probably wants us to think she apologized. But there is no proof of that. And its just us filling the gaps in the stories once again.

[arctic junco]

Dawg, she apologized to everyone except the person she actually hurt
The in-universe stuff doesn't matter as much. The Omori staff could have easily added a scene or two where Aubrey actually directly apologizes to Basil

Evidently, the Omori staff couldn't run out of scenes to play considering all the FILLER THEY HAVE

[naive wharf]

I guess this all depends on what you like to see in games,,, im not a fan of ambiguity all the time, but im definitely someone who enjoys some ambiguity in scenes like sunny telling his friends the truth for example because thats at the end of the game. When you have a scene like that at the end, you kinda already know the characters enough to interpret the scene in your head like “yup, they did this”

[arctic junco]

That's different, and you know it

[naive wharf]

Maybe no explicit proof but trying through the door, and having her next to his hospital bed.. what else would she have done

[arctic junco]

Literally anything else

Disassociate
Panic internally
Panic externally
Text her buddies

[naive wharf]

She was calm in the scene. I cant think of anything aubrey wouldve done besides approaching his hospital bed ans apologizing + asking if hes okay

[hazy ocean]

I understand why you think its unimportant that we get a confirmation that Aubrey apologized to Basil. But for me, when the game is about forgiveness, its important that we at least see the character that hurt someone apologize to them.

[arctic junco]

This kinda loops back to "Wow, we're doing Omocat's work for her!"

[hazy ocean]

It doesn’t need to be a huge scene, just Aubrey saying "I'm sorry". Basil doesn’t even have to respond. Just the fact that we SEE Aubrey apologise would make Basil, Aubrey and the narrative feel more complete.

[naive wharf]

So this all depends on preference then, i still saw the whole forgiveness thing despite not having that scene, but for you, if thats something you wanna see explicitly, then i get that too. I dont see why it matters to argue over it if its a preference thing

[arctic junco]

Eh, it's not an argument

It's discussing

[naive wharf]

I guess but its definitely going nowhere😭 i dont mean that in a rude way btw

[arctic junco]

For me, it kinda rubs the wrong way, in like

[naive wharf]

Uh, what about the door scene..?

[arctic junco]

Aubrey is apologizing to the people associated with the person
But not to the person himself

[hazy ocean]

Yeah

[arctic junco]

Like me running over a person and apologizing to the family

But not to the person I ran over

[naive wharf]

Had to look up a playthru for this quick screenshot

[naive wharf]

She also wanted to hear a response,,

Exactly what you described happened — aubrey apologizing, even if basil doesnt respond

Infact she was the one who suggested they stay there for him

[hazy ocean]

I just dont like that they don’t talk face to face. It's pretty nitpicky i know. But it feels weird that there isnt an actual apology of them facing eachothers.

[hazy ocean]

Yeah, that was cool from her agree.

[arctic junco]

If this were the manga, we would be given a shot of Basil hearing Aubrey speak

I believe in Nui 🙏

[hazy ocean]

Exactly

Just him hearing her behind the door.

[naive wharf]

I get that but thats nitpicky, it isnt a writing fault imo,, basil didnt wanna come out, and thats okay. I think basil not coming out yet also makes the scene (sunny basil fight) later more impactful.

[arctic junco]

"But the game revolves around Sunny and it's from his point of-"
I'm so glad the manga exists ❤️

[arctic junco]

What the fuck
Basil shouldn't be afraid to come out

[naive wharf]

Idk i prefer the game because theres something special to me about only seeing stuff from sunnys perspective, but i guess itd be pretty cool to see basil atleast hearing her

Despite not liking the manga

[arctic junco]

We can support him all the way 🏳️‍🌈

[naive wharf]

New omori ending idea?

[arctic junco]

You'd definitely like Steven Universe

[naive wharf]

I do like steven universe lmao😭😭

[hazy ocean]

The manga has A LOT of flaws (mainly because it tries too much to follow the game while cuting the boring parts) but i like the small changes it does that arent just "we should skip this part because its 4-in game hours of the story not progressing".

The manga doesn’t adapt a story made for a game into a story made for a manga. Its just does the bare minimum of cuting the part that are just gameplay and no story.

[arctic junco]

Is it bad that I can imagine the CW adapting Omori competently?

Like, the Faraway angst is right up their alley (They did Riverdale, for reference)

[deft vapor]

The clone wars?

[naive wharf]

This is why i like the game better, i appreciate the gameplay a lil too much.

[naive wharf]

I havent heard of riverdale in so long omg

[arctic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/jughead-hat-riverdale-cole-sprouse-gif-8393244

Okay, nevermind, Riverdale-tier writing ain't it for Omori

[deft vapor]

This is the most I’ve seen this channel be active

[arctic junco]

Do you want this channel to be dormant till next month?

[naive wharf]

i dont want “Have you ever seen basil without that stupid flower in his hair?”

[arctic junco]

"Yeah, I have this bat. I carry this all day, everyday, punk"

And then she beats up Basil for the first half of an episode

[naive wharf]

So hyped for omoridale release

as much as i love basil i cant help but imagine him in riverdale

“In case you havent noticed, im weird, im a weirdo, dont leave, sunny”

[arctic junco]

"Ew"

[pseudo bolt]

[scenic spoke]

everyone, where I can read omori manga ?

[arctic junco]

To start off, what country do you live in?

[scenic spoke]

ehh vietnam ?

[arctic junco]

It should be available in the K-Manga app

[scenic spoke]

I just want know website to read it...

k-manga app can find in google ?

[arctic junco]

Yes

It's in the Google App Store

[scenic spoke]

thank u !

[compact peak]

Usually when there's this much chat in one night I wish there was a summary lol

[hazy ocean]

We were just talking about the story, lore and gameplay in general, what is good and what could be improved. And the good and bad changes the manga made or can still make.

[compact peak]

Thanks for the summary. I hope it was a useful discussion.
I didn't read the whole thing, but I did skim through a bit. A few people I see regularly here were speaking as usual. I don't know them, but lovetrain's opinions resonate with me, so it was interesting.

[gloomy crow]

Q

[deft vapor]

Q

[vapid agate]

In a small moving room

[rapid pike]

someone has the doc for it too

[scenic spoke]

wait really ?

[rapid pike]

@marble smelt whenever theyre online dm them

[marble smelt]

hi

[rapid pike]

there u go~

[scenic spoke]

hi :0

[marble smelt]

ill dm you

[scenic spoke]

sure if u want

[deft vapor]

:0

[arctic junco]

Dawgs, they live in Vietnam

They have access to the manga 😭

[marble smelt]

i just saw i got pinged idk man 😭

[arctic junco]

It's okii

[deft vapor]

Bruh

[scenic spoke]

Is ok I always using on my laptop, my phone sometimes get glitch with some app reading manga