omori-manga-📖

[novel umbra]

especially since it’s so early in game and you don’t have any clue what the true nature of headspace is; you just want to go back to where it’s “safe” - which is exactly what headspace is for, to escape the reality of sunnys life

okay sorry i am just very passionate about this lmfao

[tulip skiff]

having omori even show up messes up both the moment and the future omori fight

Riddle me this

What has sunny DONE so far

that isnt directly done or affected by omori

[novel umbra]

good question! the answer is

[compact peak]

Our brains have already experienced the game, so we understand that every point is questionable.

[tulip skiff]

My worry is mostly that once the omori fight comes by and they actually have to show that sunny has in fact grown on his own they will just make up that sunny actually overcame his fears when sunny wasnt even the one doing it

[novel umbra]

EXACTLY

he hasn’t been doing ANYTHING on his own 😭😭

[tough lava]

Im looking back at the manga and... he kind of overcomes the fear? Its just fear of drowning as an entity isnt explicitly shown
It isnt great since the lake scene is BARELY mentioned in previous chapters (thanks lost library 💀) so some readers dont even know about the fear, but its definitely there

[tulip skiff]

Which is a separation that omori itself does in hikkikomori route by having OMORI "beat his fears"

Pretty much just repressing the truth further

[novel umbra]

like u gotta let sunny do what he needs to do. like it’s just so important that he takes steps ON HIS OWN to overcome his fears and face his trauma

[tulip skiff]

I mean its debatable if sunny even has a fear of drowning in this

[compact peak]

I was thinking about it from the perspective of a multiple meta structure...
In her dreams, sunny overcomes her phobia by controlling OMORI (as if playing a game).
Well, OMORI doesn't always behave as planned, though.

[novel umbra]

and in the manga he literally has not done anything it’s just happening to him

[tough lava]

Heres how I see the whole lake scene

• He rushes to the water
• Gets the fear
• Overcomes it and jumps in
• While in water he almost succumbs to omori trying to comfort him but gets saved instead

[tough lava]

It wouldve worked if lost library properly established it

[tulip skiff]

but yeah omori fight is going to be ass 🙏

[novel umbra]

fr

[tulip skiff]

They havent developed sunny enough to actually justify it

[novel umbra]

also the thing i’m most concerned about is like

the music….

dude…..

[compact peak]

Yes, he immediately ran to help Basil, but his phobia made him stop.
But he kept going nonetheless.
We could interpret this as overcoming his phobia.

[tulip skiff]

duet is not going to happen

[novel umbra]

final duet is just gonna be fuckin silent??? what’s going on???

[tulip skiff]

[novel umbra]

EXACTLY

oh my lord

[winter mantle]

just listen to the song while reading bro

[tough lava]

Thats just a problem with adapting something to a manga in general
nothing you can really do about that

[novel umbra]

in the game (true route at least) he is ACTIVELY taking steps to discover the truth

mr outback literally confirms that he is seeking it

omori is in the WAY of that goal sunny does it ON HIS OWNNNNNN

[tulip skiff]

who

-nui probably

[compact peak]

The fact that manga has no music!

[novel umbra]

LMFAO yeah. probably

[tough lava]

give physical copies of the omori manga with a music box that plays songs based on which page you are on

[tulip skiff]

I can understand why sunny would not have as much time to be developed as a character, the manga is limited by its amount of chapters and they dont have enough screentime to fit everything and make it be satisfying

Which is why YOU DONT MAKE A MANGA TO BEGIN WITH

[tough lava]

Well what can you do

[tulip skiff]

NOT MAKE IT

[arctic junco]

But Omocat wants money!
Why else would they have their own store!

[novel umbra]

anything other than making a manga

[arctic junco]

A store that doesn't even sell their own manga!

[tough lava]

at least the author is clearly trying harder in chapter 9

[novel umbra]

clearly they don’t considering how rarely things restock /sar

[tulip skiff]

there has to be a better way to get money than this

[torpid acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796384999658094653/1349819315649515550/1132175680449282118.gif

[novel umbra]

yeah but so is kels neck

[violet river]

soulless cash grabs, my beloved

[tough lava]

lmfao

[compact peak]

Most people here have no interest in "try harder"

[tough lava]

🦒

[violet river]

I think Nui is stepping up in terms of art, but the story is still soulless

[novel umbra]

you know what else is up.

y

[violet river]

my mom?

[novel umbra]

…you k

…..you know what else.

[compact peak]

Making money even though pirated copies are rampant? Strange story

[novel umbra]

what else is up.

[arctic junco]

Basil's gravestone in the neutral ending!

[novel umbra]

kels. kels neck.

i’m really funny guys

[tulip skiff]

Its undeniable that his style has gotten better

It still shines on horror tho

[serene juniper]

if the story falls flat when it's left only to its writing thenbhey maybe the story isn't that good

[tulip skiff]

Its not just the stories fault tbh

They dont have time to tell it either

[tough lava]

Praying blackspace is good 🙏

[tulip skiff]

They cant fuck it up

[tough lava]

Are they going to sell physical copies of the book

[tulip skiff]

Nui is literally only good at horror

There is no way

[tough lava]

Oh they definitely can

Lose all of the story nuance present in blackspace 💯

[violet river]

they could have had as many chapters as they want, Omocat just had to want to do it out of passion and even be willing to lose money while contracting tha mangaka

instead it is a cash grab

[novel umbra]

oh trust when black space comes i WILL be analyzing every single pixel.

[tulip skiff]

I mean omocat is also not as competent as people think she is and this might be a genuine attempt

but either way this thing was a mistake from day 1

[tough lava]

Watch them spend 2 pages on mewo but none on the "im sorry" (something) room

[violet river]

If they fuck blackspace, I think we should request to rename this chat to omori-manga-hate-discussion

[novel umbra]

yes.

unrelated but how does this manga manage to rush the story but also go agonizingly slow at the same time

it’s astonishing

[tough lava]

If it is
Imagine if they dont make the pages of blackspace full black... because ink is expensive

[violet river]

I think all Omocat does is made Nui play the game once and now just ignores messages from Nui. Messages like "you, how the fuck do I do that? The fans hate us, please help me salvage this"

[tulip skiff]

printing sweetheart pages was too expensive sorry...

[arctic junco]

But they made Tanjiro's VA voice Basil in that one trailer!
It's not a mistake!

[tulip skiff]

bro is doing the best he can with the absolute dogshit hes given dont throw him in this 💔

[violet river]

Omocat is too busy in her Rolls-Royce to care

[tough lava]

people realizing that headspace boring af when theres no rpg mechanics 🔥

[compact peak]

It's probably okay to change it now.
The chat here has that intention.

[tulip skiff]

As flawed as headspace is the manga is doing it way worse

[tough lava]

IMPLEMENTING OCS WOOOOOOOO

[violet river]

I legit know how ot justify headspace in a manga form

you just have to use it sparingly to introduce character dynamics

[novel umbra]

i hated how the characters forgot about basil so soon. like i get it’d take way too long to go through all of headspace but like…… the whole thing with that is that they start to slowly forget while in deep well and then completely forget by humphrey because it’s DEEP it’s DEEPER well it’s DEEP IN SUNNYS MIND WHERE EVERYTHING IS BEING REPRESSED. THATS THE POINT. REPRESSION.

it just doesn’t make sense to me 💔

[tulip skiff]

nui will justify the half chapter spent on them making love letters guys trust

[tough lava]

nah instead we will have omori aura farming for the 5th time

[novel umbra]

those were completely necessary /sar

[tough lava]

wait

omori manga is just hype moments and aura 🥀

[tulip skiff]

yes

Took you long enough

[tough lava]

😔

[hazy ocean]

Not enough hype moment sadly

[tough lava]

omori carrying the team by using stab once

[hazy ocean]

They should just change the genre and make it a battle shonen

[tulip skiff]

Aura farming a horror game is insane work

[tough lava]

Major character arc but its actually just a yugioh drama scene

[novel umbra]

oh my god it looks even funnier when you crop it like that holy shit

[tough lava]

Man when you cut out the shoulders the neck feels even longer 😭

[novel umbra]

thank you for this

i just wanna know. i just wanna know one thing

how did nobody notice and fix this god damn neck

like omocat has to proofread it i’m assuming

how did this panel just

completely make it into the final thing

[violet river]

the neck is bad but if that was the only problem with the chapter no one would care

[violet river]

HAHAHAH

good one, she is too busy in her Ferrari

[novel umbra]

i’m only emphasizing the neck because even though there are much bigger problems with the manga at least this one is mildly funny to me

the others just make me mad lmfao

[tulip skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-ashton-hall-gaming-game-gif-1787547143801600574

[violet river]

If Omocat had WhatsApp:
Fans: Omocat, we need plushies
Omocat team: Omocat, we need plushies
Nui: Omocat, HELP
Rolls-Royce: Your order for a Phantom VIII has been confirmed
What's left of her inner artist:

[compact peak]

Is this how it is in every fandom?

[violet river]

No, example

If Toby Fox had WhatsApp:
Fans: DELTARUNE TOMORROW #*&Q%EQR#Q
Deltarune team: Pluey has breached containment
Pluey: I am coming for you
WildFoxWorks: Your order has been accepted
His inner artist:

[compact peak]

Sorry, that wasn't a message for one of your chats.

It was aimed at the atmosphere.
I never think everything should be seen as positive, but some of the comments and complaints about the machine translation issue seem really insulting.

[distant pebble]

Will the manga get a physical English copy

[rigid token]

we love your positivity! sorry I'm about to go to spanish class (yeah, for Kel ahah) I will see you soon!

[violet river]

well, I have not looked at the translation issue so idk

but the hate on how mishandled the story is is certianly justified

[stoic bear]

i liked thisss chapter a lot

but why doesss hero look like that (not a bad thing)

[white yacht]

[signal cedar]

I think we all owe the game's headspace a big apology

[signal cedar]

My biggest criticism with it is they did Kim dirty like Kim would NOT say that

[split wagon]

Kim would absolutely not leave aubrey in that situation unless she had to. Again, an issue i have with the manga is that it sterilized the problems with some characters, and those problematic aspects are part of what make them interesting.

[signal cedar]

Yeah absolutely

In the game she's just a little unsure of how to deal with the situation bc it's getting a bit heated for her but it's clear she doesn't mean to cause harm, she just doesn't really want to be involved because it seems personal for Aubrey

She's giving Aubrey space if anything

She even offers for Aubrey to come along with her and the others

She would NOT say that

[split wagon]

yep, it's not a dealbreaker for me but Nui/Omocat need to remember that these kids are NOT mature.

[signal cedar]

I just don't understand why these changes had to be made honestly

Like some of them make sense

But other changes just feel really strange and poorly thought out

Like when Mari randomly decides to go spirit mode in otherworld and they forgot there's no water in otherworld so they just added a little puddle underneath her

It completely ruins the emotional impact of that scene imo

[delicate mortar]

FRS

[pure salmon]

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Bit late

[heady nova]

I've seen the game already, but yeah, it's hilarious to look at.

[heady nova]

Definitely nuked the immersion

[signal cedar]

Fr

[violet aurora]

Why is Aubrey's bat like

As tall as her

[lime canyon]

i tried to fix hero’s panel if anyone wants 2 see

[winter mantle]

show

[compact peak]

I understand the opinion that Kim's change is not satisfactory.
It's a bit difficult to explain this. I do think Kim would not leave Aubrey alone (if Kel had said "MARI doesn't want that" like in the game, or if Aubrey had been aware that the reason she came to the lake was because she hadn't yet forgotten about her old friends, Aubrey herself would not have chased the hooligans away from the lake).
Is Kim's leaving her alone just a cold attitude? If you interpret it positively, I think Kim understood that Aubrey needed to move forward mentally. As a way to do that, she deliberately acted coldly because she thought that Aubrey needed to create an opportunity to talk to her old friends. This is a kind of kindness. Although it is certainly a drastic measure. (There is a scene where Kim sticks out her tongue, but I can't find a word to properly explain this comic expression. Maybe it will make sense if I say it's to hide her embarrassment?)
It is sad that leaving her alone in the end caused her to have flashbacks of her own sad memories.

[rigid token]

I am sorry for barely talking yesterday. I was not happy with Aubrey and Kim, who I love dearly, and I do admit I preferred to step away and relax instead of being unnecessarily hostile. I can see your point of view, I really do, but maybe it's nuanced differently between the two translations.
Kim sounds almost 'done' with Aubrey and just tossing her to 'handle things by herself' like it's been a burden for the group so far and 'it's time for you to figure it out'.

It's a stark contrast with seeing her in Two Days Left in front of the picture of her an Aubrey and wondering 'why don't you tell me what's wrong?'

[compact peak]

Why are you apologizing?
I was just worried about your health.

[rigid token]

In the game you feel a lot more... affection between the hooligans? They're messy, they're chaotic, they're 'criminals' (stealing candies) but they're close. And Kim seems the kind of devoted friend, Kel style, who'd do anything for her best friend. Here we barely see them interact which.... hurts a bit

[rigid token]

I am grateful for your care. I am fine. Merely tired. I got guests coming over soon so I'm preparing them food to welcome them in, salads and all. My obsession with Omori is making me use edible flowers to decorate a lot more, lately.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1335404779920429179/1365246377797615656/20250425_104100.jpg?ex=680c9c45&is=680b4ac5&hm=4f3023ca41095df604c4b6ba717164fece9195c05957275886e6429631bba314&=&format=webp&width=642&height=856

[compact peak]

Yes. As I said yesterday, it's a kind of "stage setting" production. I can truly understand the anger felt by people who love the game OMORI over this change.

[rigid token]

the purple flower is called 'Borraggine' in Italy. both flowers and leaves are edible. learning which flowers I can use to decorate and eat has been a fun adventure. And another thing I am grateful about that I got into with OMORI. It sure influences me a lot.

But yes. I wait to see how things will turn out

[compact peak]

Those who experience OMORI have an impact on their lives. I played OMORI, and my heart was torn to shreds, and then healed. I can never experience it for the first time again, but I still think about them.

[compact peak]

Because I've experienced the game, I know that Aubrey and the Hooligans are really kind people. That's why I don't like the changes to the manga. I understand.
I want to make a clone of myself... a clone who has forgotten all about OMORI. And I want to have him read the OMORI manga and hear his thoughts.

[rigid token]

I experience it through others when I can. gifting OMORI and watching people try it for the first time is still a magical experience

[winter mantle]

watched my sister play it was wrenching honestly

[rigid token]

That is the main issue, I fear. we know they're kind yet we see them... mostly just as troublesome fellows. With KEL stepping in so the police won't be called on them and everything else just kind of... happening. They feel distant from Aubrey and that hurts because I see them as.... almost family?

We have Charlise who is taking care of her mother and a difficult brother. She's the caretaker who took a shine on Angel. Angel is full of life, always with Charlie and he's... man. Angel lives with ARTIST and they have no room for their parents, meaning she probably is Angel's legal guardian (not just sister) and she's... not the most attentive person (focuses on her art, yells at the dog, angel seems to fear her outbursts)

We have Mikhael who seems to be looking for his true persona, which has me having a ridicolous amount of headcanons about his rivalry with kel. The insane breathing issues seem to indicate he MAY have baker's asthma (the race with Kel, how he's always short of breath, the fact everything is Bread around his place)

We have Kim who.... Kim and Vance are a duo. I love that he's actually super cool and relaxed and if you visit him in Two Days Left he admits he just does what Kim wants because he wants to see her happy

and there's Aubrey. Aubrey is not just the 'boss', she's possibly the one who got them all running together one way or another, after all she's the unofficial leader, and they all worry about her as she seems to care about them

they literally go seek Kel, their 'rival' or 'enemy' when Aubrey stops answering. Who cares about pride, they just want to make sure she's okay.

They're kids with a bit of problems, sure, but there's a deep love and connection that is sadly missing.

apologies for talking too much I am far too invested in OMORI, I fear

[winter mantle]

i ain't reading allat

[rigid token]

You don't have to, lol. It's me just really loving on the hooligans because there's litearlly not a single character I don't adore in that game

........... beside Humprey, I guess

[winter mantle]

oh nah i was joking

[compact peak]

No, no. Everything you said is right.
And we know them well.
That's why I don't like the manga.
But it's difficult to depict each of their pasts in detail in the manga.
(Because there's a possibility that the manga will end in 3 volumes, and there's a possibility that they're under contract for a certain number of episodes.)

In fact, as someone who uses machine translation, I appreciate longer sentences.
What are the reasons, what is the background, what are the emotions, what are the impressions, and what words are used to express them?
I'm happy to be able to slowly look at and think about this process. To that end, you use polite language that is easy to translate, don't you? Thank you very much.
Many opinions don't go through this process, and are just emotional slang, which just shocks and hurts me.

[rigid token]

I still try to look for the positives in the manga where I can see them. With the fact Kel keeps being amazing, I do admit I am always returning back to the manga because I just love both brothers far too much.
I like parts of the manga, I dislike parts of the manga, I think it's important considering both sides and focus on the fact that with people like you I feel some level of kinship because despite the many barriers between us, we're tied together by a strong, deep love for OMORI.
I am glad you appreciate longer sentences. I'm trying to avoid figures of speech (without explaining them) and make sure the grammar is correct when interacting with you. Just know that should translations ever come off as offensive or rude, it will definitely be a mistranslation (and we have it seen when it came to 'silly', which is not an offensive word in english)

As for the manga- Hero is now in. The fan in me just really wants to believe he'll do amazing bits and I pray we get more bonding moments between the two brothers.

The funny part is: Omori hit me so deeply I'm not only learing modding, I also restarted playing the piano, I started baking, I started gardening and have all the omori flowers now in my garden, I started getting into shape (I want to cosplay Kel eventually) and I learnt how to craft pinwheels (and I started learning spanish since I embrace the headcanon Kel and Hero are mexicans)

I never expected a game to change me so much

[violet aurora]

Ngl Omori got me being a flower boy, dying my hair brown (was supposed to be blonde but my family didn't like it so I just chose brown), and all other stuff but most importantly I keep looking out for my friends now, sometimes I ask them if they wanna hang out (even though like 99% of the time it gets rejected), and in general I'm just kinda there, like I'm silent but I'm always there

Tbh my primary problem in the manga really is pacing

[rigid token]

We can be both flowerboys together! Even if given my general age comapred to the most part of the server it'd probably be like

And I am very proud of your attempts to become a more open friend, I know it's not easy!

[violet aurora]

Your age?

Like can't anyone like flowers

[violet aurora]

Idrk if this is a topic to be talked about in the manga channel

Anyways

I haven't seen chapter nine yet so I'm just gonna say

Chapter 7 sucked

[rigid token]

It was mostly a joke, really.

The....... manga has been discused a lot

[violet aurora]

Yeah because

This is the channel to discuss it

[compact peak]

I like your message that we need to evaluate both what we like and what we don't like.
Every time a manga is updated, people seem to want to discuss "what was bad this time?" And if they find something bad, they'll rate the manga 0 out of 10. It may not be true, but a single emotional chat makes me think so.
I may also annoy you with machine translations (or cultural differences). But I want to be kind to kind people like you, so I want to let you know that I'm not intentionally chatting to annoy you.

[rigid token]

I think emotions run wild and strong because we are all in love with the work of OMORI. I think it's important to see the good too, even if sometimes it's hard. In this chapter? It was a bit more difficult but this panel was it

Once more Kel shows he's actually emotionally mature. Something more subtle in the game, that he hides perhaps better, but I can appreciate him trying to be level headed, even if I am aware in One day Left, after what happens to Basil (the lake push), he will not be as calm or forgiving.

I like that the manga makes his protectiveness of those he loves more evident. Even if his relationship with Aubrey is really, really uneasy to read as friendship.

Also please know I'm never annoyed. I find speaking with you incredibly enjoyable and I learnt a lot of new things from you. And when I have doubts about the translation, I know I can trust you since you get to see the TRUE version of the manga (see: our 'pansy' discussion. Where in the Japanese conversation she just didn't have such negative connotation to her words)

I love to see things through your eyes, even if sometimes tones can get intense when feelings are running high (another term for 'intense', I hope to help with translations and maybe if I can help you notice some other things that may be a bit harder to translate at times)

[compact peak]

The game was written in English and then translated into Japanese, while the manga was written in Japanese and then translated into English.
I think this makes it a bit more complicated. There are slang terms and intentional changes, like 'pansy'. Many lines are quotes from the game, but these changes may never be noticed unless we check both languages.
Also, in this episode, the English version has the line "It means everything---" (a quote from Aubrey's theme music). The Japanese version doesn't have that phrase because it's written in Japanese. In this respect, I sometimes envy the English version.
Everything in this world is not all there is to see.

[rigid token]

yes, I think the translations did change few things. As you mentioned, for you all Omori and Sunny are different entities, meanwhile the english speaking fandom doesn't seem to fully consider Omori a proper 'person', so to speak.
It's still good to learn new things and see them through different eyes, though. Also, I think it's natural to be a bit jealous of things that are, in a cerain sense, out of our control. The 'It means everything' line is certainly cool, but for example I'm sitting here being absolutely jealous of people who can go and purchase the volume 2 with the Kel print in it. There's an english saying that is 'The grass is always greener on the other side', which translates into a sense of 'we are by nature often overlooking what we have and focus on what we cannot have.
The great thing of us being here, though, tied by our love for Omori? It's that we can learn from each other and appreciate both what we have and both what we cannot have.

Also, should you ever require assistance with the english language, please know I'll gladly try my best to assist

[compact peak]

I truly believe that the best part of joining this server is hearing what you have to say.
I might not come here after the manga update is over. But I'm glad I got to meet you.

[violet aurora]

Speaking of Sunny

I love how the manga shows so much more expression on him

Like just from the eyes alone, you can tell what the situation is and how he feels about it, what's going through his mind, you can just read it

[rigid token]

The feeling is mutual. I hope we may have a reason to still speak after the manga is open because you truly shown me a lot of wonderful new points of view and I do appreciate your level headed approach to things and kindness.
You are a joy to have around, you truly are.

[rigid token]

I think it's an interesting thing. It's 'different'. Canon game Sunny mentions not enjoying to smile, like it's not natural to him. Assuming he's neurodivergent he always assumed some kind of flat affect disorder (typical of many conditions like autism or schizophrenia. And considering I consider Sunny schizophrenic and even presented a work essay about it for my formative work credits.... I think I prefer the game for this)

In the manga OMOCAT said she and Nui discussed how sunny/omori not having expressions wouldn't work well, I don't remember the exact quote, so I think that's.... the main reason he is so expressive? I'm not entirely cartain.

[violet aurora]

Oh Omori too

The expressions he also gives when the truth finds its way into Headspace, and his hints of fear whenever Stranger, Basil, or Mari finds repression in the world that he's supposed to be protecting for Sunny, it's pretty good

[rigid token]

I'm just saying that as someone working in the healthcare/mental health fields I have far too much to say and I love this game o much

[violet aurora]

Did Omori also get you to go to mental health stuff

[rigid token]

Not really. I've been working in healthcare for a long long time. It got me into learning a LOT more about schizophrenia though and it's one of the main reasons I chose to currently work in a retirement home for psychiatric elderly people when I got other 'easier' jobs lined up.

And I may or may not restart taking proper music lessons + I'm so close to get myself a violin.

[violet aurora]

Ohhhh

[compact peak]

Regarding Sunny's emotions, he shows a much stronger expression of anger than Omori. Even in the first stage

[violet aurora]

Also kind of a far-fetched thought

But I think like, the correlation of Sunny passing out frequently could show how malnourished he has been that he can't keep standing for so long, greatly showing how isolation really messed him up

Though it probably wasn't a thought like that it's probably just what Nui thought would be a way to showcase Headspace more than thrice

[rigid token]

Oh, that is a good take. Certainly better than the 'easy wat to jump to headspace' take I mostly hear around.

Sunny is certainly malnourished. Both in Headspace AND real world we never seen Sunny/omori eat

others move around the table, he just stands... there.

He is bound to be manourished and weak. good thought, lovesick!

@compact peak if I may bother you one second, may I ask you which is your favorite character?

[compact peak]

Also, as can be seen from SPACE EX-HUSBAND on the OMORI route, "neutral" emotions do not only represent "normal."

[violet aurora]

Okay I feel so weirded with people calling me lovesick as a name

I'm just lovesick from the dump back on 2/14

[rigid token]

Oh. HUH- apologies, I just went with your name there, how should I address you?

[compact peak]

To be honest, I've never thought about who is the best. I like that all six are together.
But since the game OMORI is played from sunny's point of view, I empathize with him a lot.
Of course, sometimes I wish I had friends like Kel or Basil.

[violet aurora]

Uh, give me a moment

[rigid token]

Kel is a big inspiration and I can see why. Basil is more than a friend I'd like to protect.
And that's good to know. Thank you for answering me! I was just curious because my favorite is evident but I always like to know 'who' people like the most

[compact peak]

In fact, I feel that "neutral" is closer to "apathy" than to "normal."

This is a quote from a study I read somewhere

[rigid token]

I think that applies to OMORI mostly and some other characters, but not the friend group. for them 'normal' seems to apply to 'serene', which may be a nod to how sunny see them

[compact peak]

Yes. Maybe it would be better to think of it as a "neutral" response for people who are depressed.

[past glen]

where can i preorder the 2nd volume ?

[rigid token]

Japanese sellers i think

[molten harness]

h

[novel coral]

dodoodod

[agile sphinx]

okay so im a little late but this panel is so cool even though its not canon at all

yeahhh if u ignore how off the rails it is from the game this is amazing tbh

the art is getting better and i rlly like it

[neon hollow]

i did this fun edit

[hazy ocean]

Headspace would probably be very different if Sunny was a Berserk fan

[neon hollow]

BASIL DID... WHAT!

[violet aurora]

Ngl Sweetheart didn't look good in that chapter

[narrow hull]

real

[knotty shoal]

Dunno if someone already replied to you about it yet, but the quote said that they decided that whatever emotions Omori expressed, be it truth-related or not, they all came straight outta Sunny

And let's be honest, that one quote alone gave me the impression that while they are different entities, Omori is actually an empty vessel instead of self-sentient. One who's actions are entirely controlled by Sunny. Which is kinda mind-opening (at least for me) because we can imagine if ||Omori decides to cut Mewo open in the manga (or even without any hesitation or emotion, kinda like when he stabbed Aubrey), and since Omori is, again, an empty vessel, that means Sunny is the one coldly deciding to cut open Mewo||which pretty much confirms what you wrote in your work essay about Sunny being schizophrenic instead of autistic.

[rigid token]

Slow down immediately- I will not just let slide a TW: mewo possible death talk ||'oh, yes, it's normal for schizophrenics to cut animals open' like that.||

[knotty shoal]

I'm not saying its normal

I'm just stating the facts

[rigid token]

I think that, if confirmed, can be associated to plenty of things. And we don't know HOW sunny would feel in that context. Ingame it's one of the few very horrific places where he can stab himself out of the situation because we can also go the 'it's too much for him and he'd rather do it on himself rather than mewo' route

[knotty shoal]

Stabbing himself is also possible too. I won't deny that.

[rigid token]

I am currently not at home and i won't be for the next 11 hours but I will be honest. Omori being an empty vessel has always been my 'to go' idea for it. With two exceptions in which he's more or less a self-defense mechanism sprinting awake

[past glen]

the omori manga can be consider as canon?

[hazy ocean]

Yes and no

I think the new infos we learn in it can be considered canon to the game

But since some events and their order are differents, the manga is its own canon.

[arctic junco]

The manga is an adaptation of the video game

[compact peak]

Canon? No.
At this point in time when the manga has been released, it clearly depicts a different plot than the game.
I know there are a lot of people who wouldn't like it if it was canon. It shouldn't be called canon.
It would only be canon if omocat officially said "this is canon".

[arctic junco]

It's an adaptation, innit? Omori's not exactly an IP that could have canon/non-canon labels attached to it

It's not that kind of (giant) franchise

[rigid token]

I agree with this. it's more like an 'interpretation' of the canon.

It's an 'adjacent' experience, I'd say?

[compact peak]

I don't know the right term.
Second canon? Or another universe?
This manga was localized to adapt to Japan.
If there are versions published in each country, I would like to read them too. As everyone says, if it's a version that follows the same development and timeline as the game.

[rigid token]

I think 'Second canon' can work. If I was to write fanfictions or stuff I could probably limit myself to either of two 'canons' or take a mix of what I enjoy the best from both.
I know I will read anything about OMORI that ever gets published

[violet aurora]

I can see why the manga has a lot of shifts and changes from the original game. It's moreso like for people who played the game, if the manga follows it, they know what will happen and will just tire reading it. And for people who read the manga first, the slow pacing at the start of the game and shifts between the routes makes the manga struggle to be readable, so it feels fast instead to make an equilibrium of story alternations for the people who played and an engaging pace for newcomers. But still, it struggles because of one thing: Omori is a video game. It's not meant to be a manga. So there's still a lot of flaws to be pointed out because the way of telling the story is so far different from the original way.

[compact peak]

I think your opinion is correct.
There are two types of people.

1. People who play the game and know the truth, then read the manga
2. People who don't play the game and read the manga without knowing the truth
   Just because it appeals to type 2 doesn't mean it will satisfy type 1.

And yes, OMORI is a game. In everyone's country, will novels be made into movies? If novels are made into movies, I think it's unlikely to be a 100% match.
It's hard to put into words, but that's my opinion.

[compact peak]

I'm really curious to know what dreams the other five members of Sunny had in the same timeline as OMORI. I hope OMOCAT makes one.

[rigid token]

+.

Ops, apologies, misclick

But I'd also really love to learn what their dreams are like. I'm currently working on my own Kel's version for my mod because I do find the concept of a world in your mind where you can process your own truth and self absolutely intriguing

I think Basil's headspace would be a rather dark one, though

[compact peak]

Basil literally deified Sunny. Even before the incident. I'd like to know how he came to think like that. His first friend was supposed to be Aubrey.

[hazy ocean]

Yes, adapting a novel into a movie is like adapting a game into a manga. You cant match everything because of how differents the formats are. So there will be a lot of changes in the adaptation so the story can flow better or be more interesting.

[compact peak]

I'm so glad you understand.
Nobody can please everyone in the world.
I know there are a lot of people who don't like the changes themselves.
But I wanted to explain that most things happen for a reason.

[nimble moss]

You know, if there's one thing I actually like about this manga more than the game, it's how Kel is portrayed.

He's not as airheaded while still being mostly how he is, he doesn't tell Sunny to jump into the lake to save Basil while he just argues with Aubrey; Sunny just dives in himself, and him helping out Kim and Vance in Chapter 3 was also pretty cool of him.

I don't know, he's just a bit more appealing to me here, in a way, and even then I already loved him as he was in the game too.

[hazy ocean]

I really like how active Sunny is in the manga. I saw a lot of people hate it.

[nimble moss]

Semi-off note, Omori reminds me of one of my cats in this specific panel lol.

[hazy ocean]

Game Sunny only acts if Kel asks him to like he is his pokemon or smth.

[nimble moss]

"SUNNY, I CHOOSE YOU!'

(Chucks Sunny directly at Mikhael's gut and sends them both into the fountain behind them.)

[hazy ocean]

Also everything about Aubrey is an improvment. I think people who complains about how she is portrayed in the manga have just read too much sunburn fanfic.

[compact peak]

I'm surprised to hear positive comments here lol

[hazy ocean]

The manga is really cool if you see it as side content and not the main way to experience the story.

[nimble moss]

Honestly, I don't really QUITE click with Aubrey in the manga in most cases, but... She has had some neat moments, too.

[compact peak]

yes..

[nimble moss]

Also, we've gotten some Polly panels.

They certainly did not disappoint me.

[violet aurora]

Dude I was surprised when I saw Polly because when I played Omori I has Nemuri installed which gave her a face portrait and she looked forty

Then seeing her looking half of that got me

[nimble moss]

Honestly, I never really saw her as THAT old.

[hazy ocean]

I never really was a big fan of game Aubrey for a few reasons, and the manga gave me exactly what I think her character missed. So im pretty happy with how she was handled

[tulip skiff]

Shes canonically not 40

[nimble moss]

Like, maybe late 20s to early/mid 30s.

[violet aurora]

I know but the face portrait the mod had with those wrinkles

[hazy ocean]

Really didnt expect her to be so small

Or its just Kel being huge

[nimble moss]

Kel is an athlete. I know this manga has had scaling issues frequently, but maybe this one is one of the more understandable ones.

[compact peak]

Is Kel about 180-190cm tall?

[nimble moss]

Unless there was a previous moment in Chapter 6 that had them both appearing together as well.

[winter mantle]

she looks much younger than i expected

[tulip skiff]

22-30

[winter mantle]

i thought she was like 40-60~

give or take

based off of her model

she gives off grandma vibes

[nimble moss]

You know, that one moment where Sweetheart was going to marry herself by kissing her own reflection was very pitiful and amusing to me.

Like, "Wow, she really is that much of a loser lmao."

[violet aurora]

I'm gonna be honest boss fights in the manga are

Kinda bland

[nimble moss]

Yeah, they are, which I expected.

I remember that this became a meme image very quickly lmao.

[compact peak]

I don't think the fight scenes will be anything but.
He can't actually use a knife to make someone bleed and kill someone, and reading sad poems to gain an advantage over a smiling person seems a bit weird.
I'm curious to see how the fights between Joesam, Humphrey, etc. will turn out (since Pluto and the Slime Girls will probably be cut).

[nimble moss]

I hope Humphrey's fight is very nightmare inducing if they get to that lmao.

[hazy ocean]

Nui is good with horror

[compact peak]

If they were to stay faithful to the game, an episode would end with the same boring swallowing attack repeated over and over again
(if that's what everyone wants)

[violet aurora]

Oh I'm saving this one

[violet aurora]

Oh my fucking golly I can only imagine right now how Nui will draw the Slime Girls

[hazy ocean]

We need Manga Slime Girls

🙏

[violet aurora]

I would probably need to be alone in a room with NO lights and door locked

[nimble moss]

...Oh dear. I didn't think or realize this sooner.

If they make it, their appearances could become rather crazy, ngl.

[compact peak]

Can I ask a question?
There are many connections between Headspace and most things in the real world.
So what are Slime Girls?
Can we think of them as Sunny's pure sexual desire?

[violet aurora]

I honestly don't know what they are based on

[nimble moss]

He saw a certain ad once.

And was going through puberty at the time.

[compact peak]

oh

[nimble moss]

(I do not actually know where he would have seen them before lol. It's not confirmed.)

[violet aurora]

Man he must have really wanted to hide it by the fact that they are literally located in the Deeper Well, one of the deepest areas of the game, almost connected to Black Space

[hazy ocean]

Since the Deeper Well is filled of everything Sunny represses, I think its a good interpretation of them.

[nimble moss]

But I wonder why he made them scientists, specifically.

[compact peak]

Ok. Thank you.

[hazy ocean]

Slime Girls is a band in-universe. Maybe it's just their mascots or something ?

[violet aurora]

Nah Slime Girls is

Pedro Silva

[hazy ocean]

Maybe he is just into lab coats

[violet aurora]

Anyways

Back to the manga

One thing I could see have a great potential though

Is Black Space

In-game we really just see distorted places of Sunny's past (like Pink Beach and Nighttime Treehouse)

And of course Basil dying like ten times

[hazy ocean]

Some of Basil's deaths might look really cool in the manga

[violet aurora]

But I feel like the manga has so much potential to make Black Space more terrifying

[hazy ocean]

Really hope they dont cut the friend group killing Basil

[violet aurora]

Long pause of Lost at a Sleepover was the peak jumpscare of the game ngl

[tulip skiff]

Blackspace (1) isnt really meant to be a horror area

[violet aurora]

I mean, like . . . oh.

In my experience Black Space was like the second highest horror in the game

Second to Remina, the part after Basil's Meadow

[tulip skiff]

it has scares yeah, but it alternates

There is horror focused rooms and rooms that are kinda just symbolism

That second group is what the manga has me worried about

[hazy ocean]

Symbolism rooms are gonna get cut I fear

[compact peak]

My guesses for the black space are the watermelon area, spider area, treehouse area, and neighbor area.
Because Basil's death scene can be repeated over and over again.

[hazy ocean]

Except maybe for some iconic stuff like big brained Mari

[violet aurora]

Damn so no Black Space 2?

No Herosaurus in the manga

So sad

[tulip skiff]

Blackspace 2 is hikkikomori route content that wasnt going to appear anyways

[compact peak]

There may be a scene where Sunny's father cuts down the tree, but it's unlikely.

[hazy ocean]

When the manga is finished, they'll release an adaptation of the hikkikomori route that is 80% the same thing except 2 chapters at the end.

[violet aurora]

Ngl even though I told that the manga is probably rushed because of the difference in medium, I still think it's also going fast to like

Include Hikikomori Route exclusives

Like you know Sunny passed out like thrice in a single day so that's three Headspace scenarios and managed to compress Otherworld and Sweetheart's Castle in one day

(They literally skipped Pyrefly Forest💔)

Though thinking about it, it'll probably just be the true Route

[torpid acorn]

tbh that forest is unnecessary

the only good content in that place is the hidden forest, that has a letter in it

idk the name

a place where you meet daddy long leg

it wont suit in the manga for sure

Hell im predicting that NUI is going to skip the entire Orange Oasis

[hazy ocean]

It seems obvious that we wont get Orange Oasis since its side content

[rigid token]

I am very late to this conversation but as a BIG Basil fan and as a big supporter of 'their bond was incredibly toxic regardless and they would need a lot of time to heal and work hard to build a proper friendship' (or relationship, for those who ship them) I have Thoughts

I adore Basil. We know very little of his actual family life but he probably had massive abandoment issues that stem from the fact his parents pretty much abandoned him with his grandmother and left. Before the Friend Group it's implied that, like Aubrey, Basil was on his own and Polly was not in the picture yet: he was a bookworm, a gardener, all activities that can be enjoyed in solitude. We can assume he was a rather lonely child

Allow me to find some pictures from the photo album (I literally went on a full rant about how much I adore Basil's writing yesterday so it won't take much)

[hazy ocean]

Since we got so much new stuff about Aubrey I really hope we get some more Basil backstory

[rigid token]

(sorry my internet is Very Slow)

[hazy ocean]

He is by far the character that needs the most new content from the manga.

[rigid token]

FIRST OF ALL, BIRTHDAY PIC

Not very strongly said but: he thought his friends forgot but now he's happy. It feels like no one but them was in the picture and if that's true he proably experiences plenty of lonely ones just with his grandma.

(2/18 MY BIRTHDAY): SUNNY playing a video game on the couch. SUNNY is a little shy, but he's a really good listener. I always end up venting to him when I get upset or stressed. Sometimes I feel like I'm bothering him, but he never seems to mind.

He vents. He's 12, he apparently has a huge need ton vent and Sunny, as a silent person, listens. We actually see their bond being rather one sided for the little we know? Basil is the one often reaching for Sunny or leaning closer in pics, while the other usually seems to let things just happen to him (neurodivergent headcanons will be spared this round)

In a certain sense it feels like Basil considers Sunny his best friend but the contrary may be up for debate (like in Kel's situation). The person we KNOW Sunny wanted attention from the most, after all, is Mari.

(4/9): I caught MARI carrying SUNNY on the way home from school today. He must have fallen asleep on the bus. I thought it was so cute, so I got my camera out as quick as I could to snap this once-in-a-lifetime photo! Sigh... Sometimes I wish I had a sibling.

Another big hint that he may have been lonely until then and, despite having friends, that underlying feeling MAY persist.

(9/6): I'm playing cards with KEL, HERO, and AUBREY. They're so easy to read. They can't hide anything on their faces! MARI baked everyone cookies from scratch. They were chocolate chip and super delicious, like always!

He has the winnder hand And he's good at hiding it. As we do see ingame, he's rather good at putting a smile on his face even when he's uneasy or tense, at least in front of anyone who isn't Sunny. It's small but it may also hint to a 'gotta be happy' that we do not usually see from anyone but Kel, not so blatantly at least. Kel is the master of 'putting up a smile' but I think the only reason we really see the cracks in Basil's mask is because the boy was really near an ending point by the time we actually meet him in Three days left and things only snowball from there

Overall from this and other small hints, what I feel like is that slowly Basil built a rather unhealthy attachment to Sunny who felt 'safe', who felt 'non judgy' and felt like a rock he could lean in when bad feelings became strong. The friend Group was also the main source of Basil's happiness from what we see and, like Aubrey, he probably had a sense of 'family' there.

[nimble moss]

Because his own actual family is barely present in his life...

[rigid token]

In all of this? Sunny was the 'pillar'. And Basil kept reaching for him, to some degree. With his parents away and his grandma slowly fading away due to old age, he probably found himself clinging SO HARD to this group. and then all shattered during the incident.

I'll not write too much on why I think Basil's mind broke, how or what, really, I genuinely just think diagnosing him is REALLY difficult beside mentioning attachment issues, rejection sensitive dysphoria (at least present in three days left forward) and what's probably some case of trauma/stress induced psychosis. I'd rather keep it simple, even if I could go on and on about this as well.
I just think the moment the 'monster' took Mari away, his mind shattered in part with it. And Sunny, the original pillar, was in danger, then gone. He had four years to basically cling to the idea of Sunny one day returning and Sunny one day bringing back all he had lost from that incident-

I think by the time Three Days Left hits, Sunny is more an ideal than an actual person to Basil, but that's mostly an headcanon. The point is: Basil seems to think that once Sunny comes back, Happiness will come back. Sunny moving away shatters this illusion and that's why there's no ending but the truth one where Basil actually lives.

I'm sorry, I'm already writing too much, I just LOVE this game so much. I'm also aware this is personal opinions but I strongly feel about the flower boy

Also this is my personal vision, I'd gladly see other people's points of view. From mine, Sunny and Basil's best bet to actually become friends (or more, if you go that way, I know it's not for me) is to spend time apart, heal, grow and then reapproach. Whatever they have going on at the moment of the game is broken and needs to be fixed. And who knows, it may come out much better than before? Their bond is in pieces but as I got to learn from learning more about Japan after meeting DRAN: some things just get better when fixed

Kintsugi is the 'beauty in the broken'.

Like a vase that has been shattered and taken apart, given time and care, everything can come back stronger and more beautiful

I AM DONE, sorry for this wall of text!

[vivid garden]

That is so true

[arctic junco]

Yas!

I wanna see him DEAD
Not in Headspace, but in the real world! (In a bonus chapter)

[violet aurora]

Damn

This guy hates Basil

[loud bison]

Rahh I hate Basil too totally

[tall summit]

Memes in #humphrey-🐳

[rigid token]

TOTALLY (sarcarm). As you can see I'm a born hater

[compact peak]

Unhealthy attachment! That's probably the best word. I just couldn't express it.
And yes, I can understand that Basil and Aubrey didn't come from a good home situation, so they saw their friends as a pseudo-family.

It may be an exaggeration to say that Basil gradually became dependent on Sunny because he was good at listening, but that's what I think.
At that time, HERO was talking to Mari and Kel was fighting with Aubrey, so I interpret this as him spending more time with Sonny instead of his first friend Aubrey (I should note that this is of course not a statement about ship).

[compact peak]

If spending some time apart is the best option, then the lyrics of "Good Morning" that play during the credits of the good ending of OMORI and the video of them in the car moving might really be a relief.

[rigid token]

Oh no, I agree! I fully agree. given the dynamics Sunny probably felt like the 'safest' option to latch on. And I also don't talk about shipping, since I strongly dislike sunflower but I'm attached to their dynamics. Still: as you said, we had Hero and Mari leaning against each other. Kel was 'safe but also he latched on Sunny a lot and was very loud about Sunny being his Best Friend (so Basil couldn't hope to slide in that role, not Kel's best friend ever!) and he had all this clashing with Aubrey going on, Basil couldn't dream of being Kel's most important person.Aubrey had her fair share of issues as well and she was latching onto Mari the most, plus fighting with Kel at any given occasion.
And then you have Sunny. Who was kind of there, being contended by people for attention but mostly not really... giving it back?

Like no one but Mari (for obvious reasons) was his actual favorite and mostly going in with the flow. He was avaiable, he was silent, he was always there to listen and I am almost certain for Basil that felt a very natural way to claim his 'spot' in the friend group. Sunny made him feel probably special by giving him a listening ear whenever Basil needed it

(I do find it interesting, though, that the most common person to find in the photo album is Kel. But I have a lot to say about them and this isn't the right space)

[rigid token]

It is my personal opinion, honestly. Also good morning is beautiful and fitting. I'm sorry for talking so much but I find the dynamics of everyone to be so interesting and deep. I may not ship anything beside Heromari, Kelsunny and Kelbasil but I am painfully sitting here and adoring every single bit of the interactions between everyone and over analyzing them.

[compact peak]

Kel would be very photogenic. His facial expressions, movements, everything is different every time you take a photo, so I think Basil had a lot of fun photographing him.

[rigid token]

Indeed. I also believe their relationship was deeper than we're seeing, given small context clues. In Headspace Kel is possibly the one of the friend group who seems to miss Basil the most and, beside the flower crown incident, tends to hold onto basil's memories a bit more. Kel also mentions Basil in a way 'taking care' of him. Reminding him to wash hands, etcetera

And while we know they grew distant in the real world? As soon as Kel realizes Basil is struggling, he charges head in first to protect. I feel like the only reason they didn't talk during the four years is: in year 1 Kel was stuck with Hero mostly. After that we KNOW he tried to approach Aubrey again and it ended poorly, so he probably kept his distance despite still caring

We also know Basil got hurt in plenty of ways, so they probably both thought the best option was leaving the others be. Basil waiting for his savior (sunny) to return and bring back everything to normal, Kel just... being Kel and probably believing others needed their space. We know Kel stopped trying to visit sunny as well until he saw the 'for sale' sign in front, after all

So yeah. I think Kel and Basil were close friends as well, even if we don't quite get to see it

[compact peak]

Things really just didn't mesh.
And that's why it feels so painful.
I can't help but imagine what would have happened if Mari hadn't died and everyone had grown up as they were as children, and lived happily ever after.

[rigid token]

I still think Basil would need to at least to grow some independence. That being said I think things would have been much better.

I do wonder IF Mari and Sunny would have had some level of fallout, though, when she finally moved away for College. He was incredibly attached to her, after all

[compact peak]

Yes...I think the most effective way to correct dependence is to increase the amount of dependence.
I'm not sure if this will work, but I mean increasing the number of things to depend on.
Perhaps Basil should make more friends other than these friends.

And oh yeah, I hope sunny doesn't get into a fight on the stairs when mari goes off to college...

[rigid token]

I cerrtainly hope he someday will. I know it is a thing in whenever I work on post truth stuff regarding him. Basil slowly building a system that's not just 'Sunny and Friends'.

Oh, no one wants college related stair fights!

[vital turret]

You know after seeing chapter 9. Yeah this one was pretty good. I can tell this one is much slower than the previous chapter letting us stew on some emotions.

Aubrey once again proving she honestly is becoming a much more well rounded character. Seeing a little bit more about what drives her irrationality.

Although she's a lot different here than her game counterpart in a way that I think is improved here in the manga. In reality its clear she still cares about everyone but she doesn't believe that the others do at all. Hence her willingness to distance herself.

Cool to see the Aubrey's Dad Cameo even if its brief. Gives us a little bit more context behind Aubrey's homelife while still leaving many things in the air.

Probably the biggest question is...

What really motivated Aubrey's Dad to just leave?

Aubrey's dialouge gives much greater context I think. Probably the biggest drop really is the fact Aubrey says

"Don't go"

"Don't leave me"

"I don't want to be alone"

Even greater to note is that her Mother is right there. Almost nonexistent in her flashback moment. This sort of signals to me that Aubrey lived in a household in which she stright up doesn't value her at all.

Likely her Dad was always the competent and caring father while her Mom was an alcoholic and all of the negative things that accompany it.

[spiral willow]

Nooo auby!!!!

My poor aubergine!!!

[vital turret]

Yeah, frankly I relate to her more than I did before. Mostly because this is a situation I have gone through Minus my Dad actually leaving. Frankly it makes me look at her and makes me think... would I be like her if my dad left me like that. If I had a dad that stopped caring.

If the Omori Manga has any praise from me it's that I think Aubrey has been mostly well done.

[spiral willow]

I would certainly ask what happened, but thats a privacy invasion

[vital turret]

Hell in some ways I think she's a much more nuanced character than her game counterpart.

[vital turret]

I don't mind personally. But it isn't complicated my mother is a person who would rather get drunk or high and party it up like she's single rather than care about the family.

She claims she does but her actions don't ever reflect this. I hold no grudges. She's depressed and I want her to get better but no matter how much I plead she just won't.

My dad has tried bluffing her seeing if anything he tried would get her to change but she won't. Addiction is... a killer a killer of the soul.

[spiral willow]

Breaks my heart just reading this

[vital turret]

It makes me grateful for my father really. He has to endure a lot. He tried to endure a lot just to try and construct a sense of normalcy and shield me from her. Frankly it makes me sad that I'm mostly powerless in helping him with her.

Other than helping with chores and projects of course.

[vital turret]

Heres how I see it. The Manga in all honesty is an Alternate Universe. However it does have supplementary Canon to the overall story of Omori.

Mostly the biggest one being for Aubrey.

At least she's the one that stands out.

[hazy ocean]

Really wish Basil will get the Aubrey treatment toward the final chapters

[nimble moss]

You know, Aubrey's dad from his back side reminds me of Sunny and Mari's dad lol.

Fellow divorced father.

[vital turret]

I could make a Game Theory Thumbnail.

SECRET HALF-SILBLINGS!!!! in green bold text.

[nimble moss]

I have said this before, but I once saw an ironic ship name for both dads that was just called "Left For The Milk" or something like that.

[vital turret]

Sunburn Shippers in shambles.

This does make me want to reframe the arc I want Aubrey to have although its minor changes really.

In my fic that is.

[torpid acorn]

We arent sure that her mother was acoholic before her father left

[torpid acorn]

Tbh the only good pannel in this chapter is Aubrey flash back, everything else Ive seen it ruined the original Aubrey.

She was TOO agressive, insane assumption, no clue and no solid evidence to have a right to blamed Sunny

And if she's really cares abt the gang, why would she thrown out the scribble photos, she values it so much so in the orginal Aubrey she kept it to cleaned it

And to think again, I can understand why Aubrey threw away the album let alone Mari photos just as how everyone left her

[hazy ocean]

She is supposed to be aggressive and full of rage

Its just that the game was scared to make her too hateable so its never shown, just told

She is supposed to be a bully, and completly changed because of how angry she is, but every scene with her is just Basil throwing himself at her and starting to cry alone or Kel provoking her

[torpid acorn]

I mean when Aubrey talked to Sunny, she was way too unreasonably agressive

( even if she has a reason bcz Sunny slice her with a knife )

But in here she should be focused toward Basil

Or at least mad at Kel

[compact peak]

It is true that Aubrey is more aggressive than in the game. (More than necessary)
But... they are still teenagers. If I were in their situation in real life, I might have acted more like in the manga than in the game. I would have been more emotional.
"Do you want me to be the villain?" "If that's what you want, I'll be the villain myself." And I took the emotional action of scattering photos that were very important to me. I don't care how everything turns out. I would have been so hurt that I thought that.
I'm not Aubrey, but I would not have been able to deal with the death of a dear friend, the loss of connection with friends, my father leaving, my mother neglecting me, etc., etc., and the many other difficulties I would have faced in succession.

[humble gazelle]

My main problem with Aubrey accusing Sunny of blacking out the photos is that it just rushes a mini build-up and payoff. In the game, Aubrey says Basil blacked out the photos, and the player just automatically assumes that to be true because Basil acts insane around Sunny. And in the game those same photos are not blacked out because Aubrey fixed them. It's supposed to show that Aubrey is actually a sweetheart underneath her angry exterior. Her revealing the photos to be blacked out in the manga kind of robs her of that character moment later on.
And it also robs the reader of the later payoff when Basil talks about something killing Mari and then something blacking out his photos. You don't expect Sunny to actually be the one to do something like that, so it's a proper impactful twist.
And the manga tries to show Basil covering up for Sunny by saying he's the one who blacked out the photos to Aubrey, but I think it's a bit on the nose and clumsy. The game shows how Sunny betrayed Basil's image better by keeping things subtle and long term, because Basil's deteriorating mental state caused by keeping Sunny's secret makes him look worse to everyone else, without Sunny even present.

i dunno, that's just my thoughts tho

[compact peak]

You're right. The pacing of the game and the manga is clearly different.
For example, it's like a slow-acting poison and a fast-acting poison.
The truth that Sunny is the culprit of the black photo is actually revealed in a roundabout way in the battle on the last night, but in the manga, the reader can predict it in this episode at the lake.
Also, it has the effect of making the reader think about where Basil's obsession to protect Sunny, which can be said to be abnormal in the manga, comes from.
Also, your point is correct. In the game, we were able to see Aubrey's kindness because she had edited the black photo, but this incident made it unclear what would happen when we went to her house.
The order of what I wanted to say is all mixed up, but I agree with your opinion.

[vital turret]

While this is true... from personal experience with my own mother... major alcoholism coding... like holy shit. If this isn't what's trying to be portrayed I would be suprised.

While there is the potential for the father to still be extremely abusive and bad and him leaving cause Aubrey's mom to fall into alcoholism the flashback to me sort of makes me think Aubrey very much valued one parent over the other.

[vital turret]

This makes the massive assumption that she's thinking rationally.

She is not. Not even close. Her past betrayal was so life scarring that she's very much assuming and expecting betrayal around every corner.

The fact that even the simple act of the hooligans giving her some space to talk with her former friends was enough to trigger that traumatic memory paints a person so mentally scarred that she couldn't really see things rationally even if she tried.

She was reminded of the trauma through something so benign and lashed at in the only way she knew how. She's reminded of that same betrayal from the mere fact that her friends weren't there for her when she needed it the most.

She cares she just doesn't believe they care and much of her willingness to care is buried in vindictiveness and spite.

[vital turret]

Yeah this is true. Most of what I see here is an attempt in foreshadowing but Aubrey pretty much calling out on Sunny being unstable... a bit on the nose for what is to come.

[spiral willow]

This manga has a lot of bads, but a few goods

[violet aurora]

The cover pages are pretty good

And Sunny's development

And Aubrey's backstory

[somber forum]

is there a way to read the manga in the uk now

[torpid acorn]

Wellll

Uhhhhh

Try to search on google omori manga

Maybe you find something

[somber forum]

[somber forum]

i did

there was a website but it looked shady

[torpid acorn]

Wdym shady

I cant talk much abt it so.... go figure out by yourself

[marble smelt]

not legally

[somber forum]

well i dont pirate stuff so

[marble smelt]

fair enough

[somber forum]

ehhh hopefully it’ll come soon

[marble smelt]

dm me if you change your mind

[marble smelt]

i kinda doubt it lol

[vocal marsh]

I heard they are trying to spread to more countries

Only other choice is to use a VPN

[marble smelt]

yep, not a single european country so far though

might be a legal thing or something idk

[vocal marsh]

I heard it was because they don’t have any servers in those countries

[marble smelt]

oh that makes a lot of sense actually

theyre missing out on so many sales 😭

[torpid acorn]

damn

[nimble bloom]

I love this game ngl

[torpid acorn]

it hits me like a truck

🚚

[obsidian vessel]

Is it just me or does the artstyle is a bit different in chapter 9?

they dont look so young anymore

like Aubrey actually looks better here

[torpid acorn]

it looks the same to me

just less zesty

[molten harness]

GUH

[sullen olive]

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Funny artwork

[compact peak]

I hesitated to share it here because I knew I would hear comments again about it being commercial and a money grab...

[arctic junco]

Sunny holding hands with Basil

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[arctic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-omori-sad-omori-aubrey-apple-juice-apples-gif-6096321683275938995

[rain bramble]

this will probably resell up to 400 dollars AGAIN

thou that being said kinda surprised they actually did something for maid day

[hazy ocean]

No Sweepheart 😔

[tulip skiff]

alright these are funny

can someone redraw them on another artstyle please 🙏

[arctic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[rain bramble]

i think there are already thousands of artworks that has omori main cast wearing butler/maid outfits in the Asian fandom

[tulip skiff]

thats true

[tulip skiff]

btw i love how the artstyle kinda gets saved by omocats coloring

[hazy ocean]

I like the artstyle but I just wish the RW characters actually looked like teenagers and not just their HS counterparts but taller

[compact peak]

It's true (lol)

[serene juniper]

these are bookstore specific so they're definitely getting marked up like crazy

[rigid token]

thank gods it's TWO of my less favorite ships (sunflowe and kelbrey) so I can just ignore it

[obsidian vessel]

that's what i meant

less zesty

less.. weird

[spiral willow]

Shes not mean-looking enough

[arctic junco]

I don't think that's what they're going for

[spiral willow]

Ik, i was just giving out my impression which is not in any way professional and should not be taken as feedback

[agile sphinx]

ok so in a way this kinda confirms the ships in omori
not including something and sunny but basil and sunny?? sir?? 🤨

[rigid token]

I keep hoping no ship will be confirmed regardless. Relationships in this manga are overall tense and kind of awful all around between almost everyone

And I don't say that because I don't ship sunflower at all. I'd be against any ship happening at the moment. Everyone is just... awful

[agile sphinx]

yea yea, i also think omori ships are cute but imo thats really just rosemary (heromari), since that ones just cute, but other ships make less sense too like sunflower

im sorry but i hate sunflower i dont understand it 💔

[tulip skiff]

thats not how it works

i would say that nui isnt going to go the sunflower route but both basil and aubrey have acted agressive towards him already

so idk what bro wants to do anymore

[hazy ocean]

The manga was just made to confirm SunKel

Big W

[strong delta]

MEEEEE

[rigid token]

As a sunkel shipper i would take a single win hut I am not delusional to that lebel xD

[rigid token]

Can you wait and write me the 17? I already got a copy in the end AND I am waiting for the next paycheck.

[rigid token]

No route stays best route

[strong delta]

wymm

[rigid token]

Huh? I mean I got one rhis paychech. For another person. I am asking you to wait a bit until ny next paycheck and I will gift you omori

[strong delta]

YAYAYAY

AIGHT

add?

[rigid token]

I am at work

Cannotndonit jow poke me in 7 hours for stesm§

[rain bramble]

i mean that's quite the same as the game

[rigid token]

I would argue aubrey is qay more hostile

[rain bramble]

it is like that thou it's not that she's not hostile in game
and it did gain quite a controversy according to what i saw in my community

also i feel like some sunflower fans would love to have Sunny killed by Basil or knife ending so i would argue if that hostility could be a problem

and i also don't think nui will make the manga focus on one ship
by far even so called proshippers got their win in the manga and ye you know what i meant

imagine there could be a chance that the manga is actually for

omosun

jokes on that

[rigid token]

I spent my time around some and it looks like the toxicity is the main selling point for some of them so. yeah.
BUT
I just don't want ship in manga

I'm beging

Not even my own two ships, sunkel and cactiflower, I want it to stay romance free. Those kids aren't in the right mental state to date

[stuck hare]

are there english translations for the manga yet

[compact peak]

Now, I want to ask again about the word "ship." This word comes from the word "relationship," and it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a romantic relationship, right? I wanted to confirm that.

[violet aurora]

Isn't the manga in english?

[stuck hare]

im on mangadex and it only has like 2 chapters translated in english

[royal shore]

One sec

[astral yarrow]

i thought it was only on kmanga

didn't even know it was on mangadex, but that's cool

[marble smelt]

the word ''ship'' does come from ''relationship'', yes

it usually does mean that it's a romantic relationship

[light tusk]

b o a t

[marble smelt]

you can always assume that it is romantic when someone uses the word ''ship'', unless its specifically and explicitly said that it's platonic/friendship

[nimble moss]

HMS Victory and Bismarck should kiss, fr.

[somber cloud]

real

[rigid token]

Usually romantic unless specified otherwise. For example I love sunny and Basil's relationship but I absolutely hate the ship itself

[knotty shoal]

AND as a result, Kel and Aubrey.

[rigid token]

Honestly i wouldn't consider anything a ship confirmation. Omocat knows keeping things vague will gove her more money

[violet aurora]

Truly honest, I myself have some criticism with the manga's art style, but I can NOT deny, this was drawn nicely.

The time I saw that in the Duet when I played the game I was devastated especially when it cut to Sunny being alone

Seeing it here, expressing the same desperate expression Mari had after saving Sunny, it was so good.

[humble gazelle]

her hair doesnt look like its melting here

[violet aurora]

Okay chat maybe not perfectly

But I like it

[torpid acorn]

this frame was good but put in the wrong time

[torpid acorn]

ofc it is, she swam into the lake thats why

NUI also fixed Aubrey art style a little

she looks a bit nicer

Hero is fine

[compact peak]

Thanks for the reply @marble smelt @rigid token
I understand that a "ship" usually means a romantic relationship.
But... there's something I don't understand. If two person are in the same painting space, does that count as a "ship"?
Unless there's a description, does it count as a romantic relationship, not a friendship or rivalry? Really?

Rather than expressing it as two person, I wanted to express it as one person and one person

[marble smelt]

do you mean in a drawing or artwork? if so, just having 2 characters in a drawing wouldn’t automatically count as a romantic “ship”, no, i was just referring to the meaning of the word “ship” itself

[compact peak]

Thank you.
I was wondering because I saw the reaction to this channel and it seemed like a lot of people only saw two people in a romantic relationship.
Thank you for explaining the meaning of the words. I still have a lot to learn about the concepts that various words have.

[rigid token]

I think in western culture we just... really enjoy shipping. And many seek validation for their own shipping of choice. I cannot deny I did the same, at some point, writing a full essay on how I feel like Kel is hinted to have one sided feelings toward Sunny. And with Sunflower, Kelbrey and heromari being rather popular, fans may tend to feel rather 'validated''
Personally, I don't see a picture of two characters side by side as proof of anything, but there has been a boom of kimono aubrey-kel pictures from what I've been told since volume 2 was announced so...

That's what we call 'shipping culture' here.

As much as I love shipping, I generally prefer not dealing with 'canon' couples, personally

[violet aurora]

To be honest, I don't see shipping just as this "lovey-dovey" thing. I think shipping can also be for friends. Like Suntan, I see it as a friend-ship

iykwim

[compact peak]

You are free to enjoy any kind of shipping, but it seems far-fetched to conclude that two people are in a "romantic" relationship just because they are officially in a relationship (I hope I translated it correctly).
I'm trying to understand the shipping culture. Even so, there are some details that I feel are different from shipping in Japan (which I'll call the coupling culture).

Maybe the machine translation of the word "romantic relationship" itself is wrong.
Whether it involves a physical relationship or not. Whether a spiritual relationship is considered romantic or not...
Hmm, it's really hard to explain.

[rigid token]

I agree with you. two people standing near each other and being friendly isn't 'romantic' confirmation of anything. People enjoy reaching, though. Also, your translation was accurate enough, I get what you mean. I think it's a case of 'people reading into something more than they should'. Unless Omocat confirms out loud two characters are in a relationship, like heromari, there's no real 'ship'. Not romantically speaking, at least.

I think there's stuff lost in translation and I think you're just not aware of how... fierce ship 'wars' can be in western fandoms. Something I don't quite understand because while I dislike sunflower in a strong way, I don't go to sunflowers telling them 'your ship is unhealthy' or other things like this (not an attack, just an example)

[compact peak]

If we're going to mention both "shipping" and "canon"...at least Sunny realized she might be in love with Aubrey when Basil told her about it on a rainy day a long time ago.

[rigid token]

BUT there are people who WILL do that instead of living and letting live here in the western fandom.

[rigid token]

Sunburn (Sunny and Aubrey) are the closest thing we have to a 'canon' with sunny, yes

she changed a lot over the years but we are supposed to believe he had at least a crush.

[hazy ocean]

Western fandoms have a big problem with trying to make fans of a ship they dont like seem like bad people.

[compact peak]

Yes. You are free to have your own preferred shipping, but that is no reason to criticize other people's shipping with aggressive language.

[violet aurora]

Shipping discourse at its finest

[rigid token]

I was not. My apologies if it came off that way, I was just making an example.

[rigid token]

I've been accused of being pro ||incest|| because Sunny and Kel are 'like siblings'. So, yes. Some people will pull any card to make a ship they don't like look 'wrong'

[hazy ocean]

People talk a lot about the powerscaling community being annoying, but the shipping community will unironically treats you like a bad person if you like a ship they dont like

[hazy ocean]

Lmao yeah the "they're sibling-coded" excuse

[rigid token]

From my personal experience with the fandom, most of my problems with sunny and basil as a ship come from both me not liking them together and having terrible experience with the shippers. Like, really negative ones.

[compact peak]

You see, I'm often surprised by the words people use.
If I really don't like a shipping, I'll say something like "I don't like this" or "not for me". I only use the word "hate" when I have stronger feelings.
But... on the internet, I see much stronger words being used to express things.

[hazy ocean]

People are way too emotionally invested in things that doesnt really matter.

[rigid token]

DRAN, shipping culture can be rather toxic at times over here. And people do use stronger words because I think we express strong feelings a lot more freely? And for me it's, for example, easier to say 'I cannot stand sunnnybasil' instead of explaining 'people shipping it managed to hurt me so bad I have an emotional recoil whenever I see them paired together as anything more than friends' because then that would require an elaboration and a lot of other things that I don't quite want to share. And with that i'm not saying all people shipping that are 'evil', I just had especially bad experiences, being a roleplayer.

I think it's also cultural for us not considering 'strong' words with such strenght when we see them on the internet.

[rigid token]

There's also a huge portion of OMORI fans who is neurodivergent (like me) and hyperfixiations can be really annoying to handle at times. And while I mostly write kel with either sunny or basil, I KNOW my hyperfixiation is the psyche of the main remaining five, it literally devours my brain whenever I'm not focusing on others stuff.

[compact peak]

Maybe you're right.
It's quicker and more convenient to use simple words on the internet. And they can seem stronger.
And maybe I'm just more vulnerable.

[rigid token]

I can imagine that if you're hyperfixiating only on the romantic side of things, something I find a bit strange in a game that's not about romantic feelings, it can be easy to get over invested and emotional about it.

[rigid token]

It may be a mix of the machine translating it poorly and us having just a different read of words in terms of 'power'. I will do my best to use a more appropriate and softer language around you, I hope I never put you in a situation of distress but always feel free to tell me if I make you uneasy, I'll try to adapt. After all, what we all have in common is a strong love for OMORI as a whole

[compact peak]

But I do feel cultural differences sometimes.
For example, when we come across great fan art, we sometimes use the expression "Kurushii" (painful).
This means something like "I'm so excited to see such a great picture that my heart hurts."
However, I know that overseas, people say "Delete this picture."
I take this to mean something like "This picture is so great that it might make me blind, so delete it." (Sorry if I'm wrong.)

There are also many cases where people receive comments from overseas telling them to "delete" their Japanese fan art, which hurts their feelings and makes them stop making it.

[rigid token]

Oh. Oh dear, that's.... I've never heard of that being used jokingly or affectionately, honestly. 'delete this' has no positive connotations from what I understand.
'Kurushi' is something I would understand very well, there are some sunkel fanarts that make me feel like that. People saying 'delete this picture' feels just wwrong.

I'm so sorry that happens, I'm not entirely sure why anyone would do this.

I may be proven wrong but I don't think it's part of any positive approach/culture even oversea to tell people to delete things.

[hazy ocean]

I dont know about "delete this thing" but its not rare for people to say mean-sounding things about fanart they like. But most of the time its more about the characters in it and not the art itself.

[rigid token]

I know in occasion I said 'how could you do this to me?' on fanarts or fanfictions- but it was very much in a postive light and with people I knew. A 'you're breaking my heart, please keep doing so' kind of comment. 'delete this thing' is just mean spirited

[compact peak]

As I am not a native speaker, I can only take in words.
It is difficult for me to understand because I don't know what is behind them.
When someone speaks with emotion, I may need to think, "Who? What? When? Where? Why? How?"
However, this can only be done at 1/100000000000000000 times slower than the current that flows through the internet.
So my heart gets hurt before I even try to understand.
Thank you for always taking the time to explain things to me.

[compact peak]

If we understand this as a repeat of Basil's comment to sunny, we can see it as more positive than negative.
Oh well, I need the knowledge anyway.

[rigid token]

You are a wonderful person. I would love for us to understand each other better. You're giving me a lot to think about and teaching me even more. I greatly appreciate you. I am just sorry I can't always explain things properly because I am not the greatest person when it comes to words and sometimes emotions are a bit difficult for me to understand.
I'm really sorry your feelings get hurt, though, I hope that at least understanding things will help ease the pain.

[compact peak]

Well, after 10 months here I've gotten used to getting hurt lol (not that it doesn't hurt)

[rigid token]

It can be. That being said, I'd prefer to offer positive comments than 'fake negatives'. People need positive feedbacks more than ever, with all the negativity around us. you can even make 'criticisms' being positive. A 'the picture is good but the lightning needs to be better' could easily be put better in a 'The picture is great. Have you tried a different shade, though? I think it could improve even more'.

[rigid token]

You are very brave and I am still sorry that this happens.

[compact peak]

What I've learned is that if I come here on the day the OMORI manga is updated, there's a high chance that I'll be more obviously hurt.
That's because, as I said before, simple words can feel stronger and weigh more on me.
I prefer this time of year, since the new month has started, because we can have a more rational discussion.

[rigid token]

(also I think many languages are just... different. English just uses a lot of 'love' and 'hate' more loosely than others. I still feel awkward, after almost 20 years learning it, to say to a friend 'I love you' when they say that to me. In italy you say 'ti voglio bene' to friends and 'ti amo' to the person you love. overall there's a lot of nuance that I feel gets lost using those two words, at least compared to my native language. )

[compact peak]

That may be true.
But the characters in the pictures don't hear what we say.
Our words always reach the artist who drew the character.

[rigid token]

The day the manga gets released feels like a lot of emotions run very wild. And the focus is often on the negatives- which, sadly, can be a lot more evident on a first emotional impact.

[compact peak]

I may tend to prefer talking about what I dislike here rather than what I do like, but there is no other place to hear international opinions on OMORI Manga, so I'm here.
It hurts a lot, but it heals too.
I'm not forcing myself to praise and affirm everything, but sometimes I think it's more fun to talk about what people like than screaming about how they dislike something.

[rigid token]

I think it's important talking about both things. You can't blindly love something without admitting faults it may have and you cannot blindly have something without accepting that it may have redeeming qualities. You can, at least, avoid things you don't like.
Personally, I love talking about Kel, which is something I love 😛
(I usually also say 'you can blindly hate stinkbugs' at times but that's a joke for people I am familiar with that are aware i once bit into one and still remember that moment vividly.

I'd love to talk about things you like with you!

I'm also starting to cook right now, making lasagne, so my replies may be a bit slower.

[somber kraken]

The 21st night of September?

[random cosmos]

chat where do I find the Omori manga-

[marble smelt]

its on k manga but only in a handful of countries

japan, the us, canada, philippines, tihailand, vietnam, hong kong, taiwan, india, mexico, brazil, singapore, new zealand, australia

its also paywalled after the 3rd chapter

if either of those things are an issue feel free to dm me

[lunar eagle]

so theres no physical copies

it would be awesome to have physical copies

[marble smelt]

there are physical copies but theyre only available in japanese as of now

[lunar eagle]

ahhhhh

alright

you think theyre gonna translate to english?

eventually

i also heard ts is ass is that true

bc im a big fan of omori

[marble smelt]

the manga already has an official english translation available online so i'd assume so, im not 100% sure though since their target audience seems to be shifting towards japan

[marble smelt]

depends on who you ask
imo yeah its pretty bad, most people in this server would also agree that its bad but some people like it so

[lunar eagle]

whys it bad?

like

is it made by omocat, i heard she retired?

[marble smelt]

she hasnt retired

she isnt the main artist for the manga but shes still directly involved and helps with it from time to time

a seperate artist from japan is the main artist for it, the original script for the manga is also in japanese which omocat doesnt speak fluently so thatd be difficult for her to do lmao

[lunar eagle]

so why is it bad?

is the plot the same from the base game?

[violet aurora]

A lot of shifts happen in the manga

Like the order ain't chronological

[marble smelt]

its an adaptation, most of the important plot points are the same but it feels really rushed

[violet aurora]

Also the artstyle of the early chapters are uhhhh

[marble smelt]

the art is also a bit weird sometimes

ive heard people say that it looks ai assisted, like as if it was generated with ai and then traced over or something

[violet aurora]

I swear I saw Kim on chapter three and thought "why does she look like a substitute teacher with a smth smth can't say it"

[lunar eagle]

i willingly sat down and 100% this game i was really looking forward to the manga, im still probably gonna read it but its a shame other fans are saying its not as good as it can be

[marble smelt]

the artist for the manga is also a bit questionable, they have some weird previous art experience

[marble smelt]

yeahh thats fair, its really disappointing bc it had so much potential 😭

[lunar eagle]

alright thanks for the info

https://tenor.com/view/omori-basil-gif-1875621420514628886

[violet aurora]

You could still try it out for yourself but you gotta brace for the story changes

Also battles are . . . bland.

[lunar eagle]

thats sad

[violet aurora]

Yeah and also it's a manga so it's literally black and white apart from the bare pages that exist with colour

But hey if you could learn to just appreciate what we have with the manga then maybe you could hold with it

I had a lotta complains when I read the first two chapters but by chapter three I kinda just took it slowly

[lunar eagle]

ill most likely end up reading it. about a month ago i would look forward to coming home after work to play this game and it really holds a place in my heart it kinda just feels right to read the manga

[fading ingot]

Is buying the manga still worth it

[marble smelt]

read it before buying it

[fading ingot]

Okay okay

[marble smelt]

at least a few chapters

so you know if youd enjoy it or not

[fading ingot]

I feel like it's getting a lot of hate

[lunar eagle]

from what ive heard before these guys i think the hates deserved

but i cant really say

[marble smelt]

it really depends on where you look, the japanese side of the fandom generally has a more positive opinion towards it

[lunar eagle]

yet

[fading ingot]

Ohhh

I guess it depends then

[fading ingot]

Aw that's sad

I had high hopes from how the trailer looked

[frozen cedar]

Hi

How can I get the manga

Or where to read it

[marble smelt]

its on k manga in a handful of countries

japan, the us, canada, philippines, tihailand, vietnam, hong kong, taiwan, india, mexico, brazil, singapore, new zealand, australia
if you dont live in any of those, its unavailable

its paywalled after the third chapter though

if either of those things are an issue feel free to dm me

[fading ingot]

I found sum on eBay

[marble smelt]

wouldnt buy those if i were you unless you speak fluent japanese

there arent any physical copies that are translated to english

[fading ingot]

I could actually hehe

But I'm buying to collect anyway

[marble smelt]

ah thats fair

[frozen cedar]

Egypt react sad

[stark widget]

Us fr

[marble smelt]

yeahh not a single country in europe or africa has access 😭 theyre missing out on a LOT of sales

[frozen cedar]

Is the manga the same story of the game or

[stark widget]

I can't even find an omori figurine here

[frozen cedar]

||they will continue after sunny tell them the truth||

[marble smelt]

more or less, yeah
theres a lot of small stuff (like the pacing and sequence of events), but the general plotline is the same

[frozen cedar]

Read the second msg

[marble smelt]

they won’t

||not revealing the aftermath of the truth means that omocat gets more money because people will keep thinking and talking about the game for longer||

plus it’d kinda go against the whole point of the game

||it’s supposed to be about sunny learning how to forgive himself, regardless of what other people think about it||

||their friends’ reaction is irrelevant||

[arctic junco]

• It's more interesting to have people reach their own conclusions post-game rather than giving a definitive answer

[frozen cedar]

||how can manga handle diff ending||

||is it the revealing truth ending ??||

[arctic junco]

||They'll probably go in-line with the Sunny route + the good ending w/ the extra cutscene at the end||

[rain bramble]

say that since we already get nui drawing maid outfit kel and hero
maybe we can get to predict that one day omocat might draw sunny and basil in maid outfits

[winter mantle]

when was kel in a maid outfir what.

[rain bramble]

manga volume 2 special

[winter mantle]

why thank you

[compact peak]

In my opinion, the final scene will be the same as in the game.
A blank white background with one line: ||"There's something I want to tell everyone."||

[rigid token]

Best possible ending, honestly

Also can someone remind me: the part where you move toward sweetheart is... before or after you open the door for kel?

my brain is derping out big time

[marble smelt]

after

[rigid token]

Oh okay because I'm at this part

[marble smelt]

opening the door to kel happens right after beating space ex boyfriend

[rigid token]

and I told Friend I will give them a hikikomori route bit and

YEAH I don't.... huh....

I was SURE I had a save file stashed somewhere

but apparently not

[marble smelt]

you could download and import one?

[compact peak]

I believe his friends will forgive him, but the game leaves room for imagination by not depicting their reactions (we've all thought about what it would be like if the three friends didn't forgive him).
Maybe the manga will add a scene where they forgive, which I think would be great, but I prefer it not to be depicted.

[rigid token]

Oh wait I DO! heh

And no, I use my own save files, but that could be a last resource thing

[rigid token]

I THINK that a simple 'we forgive you' would be too plain. There's a lot of hurt still lingering, a lot of pain, and there would be a lot of betrayal as well. I believe they WILL forgive him but not in the immediate.
Personally, when I make stuff about it, I do set it two years later at LEAST so people had time to 'settle' and heal a bit

OH, FOUND IT!

HEHE. HIKIKOMORI ROUTE TIME TODAY.

[marble smelt]

honestly, i doubt that they would show the aftermath of the scene
the fact that it's left ambiguous in the game means that people keep thinking and talking to others about the game because they theorise more about what might have happened and discuss how they think Aubrey, Hero and Kel would've reacted, so in the long-term it's better for OMOCAT to keep it open-ended

[compact peak]

I just saw something on Fandom today about how opening this door or not changing every character's life lol

[arctic junco]

Sometimes, it's not just about wondering how others would react to what happened de-facto
People would also write/come up with their own reasonings for why the three would/wouldn't forgive the two

[compact peak]

If they weren't allowed to do this, Sunny and Basil would become even more codependent. It would be devastating.

[arctic junco]

By leaving that stuff open-ended, people can basically do whatever they want with the (potentially fractured) friend group

[compact peak]

However, they forgave Aubrey with a group hug and declared that they would support each other as friends.
Ironically, this could also be seen as a situation where forgiveness is inevitable.

[rigid token]

Kel went knocking and he didn't expect to blow everyone's life like that. The fact he never gave up on his friendship changed everything

[rigid token]

Yes and no.
Sunny and Basil are probably being kept apart for the time being. Sunny is moving, Basil will probably need some time to heal himself, so I think... huh...

they both have a chance to grow in their own person

Personally I hate them romantically involved or too close, but I think that their friendship has great potential to become something fantastic as long as they are kept at a proper distance for a while.

Especially basil. he's the one that's dependent on Sunny, not the contrary

I could literally write an essay about it.Sunny is the recipient of much one sided interest from others, especially kel and basil

[compact peak]

But if he isn't forgiven... Basil doesn't know who to turn to.

[rigid token]

He's Friend. Happy. (or was) but he was never invested.

[rigid token]

OH NO I MEAN- pardon me. I just think they'll be forgiven. Just with time.

Not a sudden big hug post confession like everything is suddenly okay

I think Aubrey or Kel may reach first. Hero may take lnger

longer

[compact peak]

We can only hope that time will heal the problem.
We can only hope...

[rigid token]

Yeah. My mod and fanfictions are all about that. but they're set all much later

not right after the hospital

[compact peak]

We sometimes imagine what we would do if we were in their shoes.
I might not be able to forgive. That's why I worry, think, and feel so much pain.

[rigid token]

I have been working on a setting of 'they may or may not'. The ideal ending comes with forgiveness, but especially Hero comes with such deep pain it's hard to imagine him just moving on

He blamed himself for Mari's death. He spent one year torturing himself and also making Kel suffer

And all that was... for nothing. For a covered up accident

He would still have been hurt, he would still have been angry, but the weight between 'I didn't see my beloved's pain until she took her life' is so much deeper than 'she fell and I lost her'

Overall, I strongly believe Hero is the one who will need longer. May or may not forgive them.

Kel and Aubrey-

Kel is Kel. He loves them, he'll eventually come around. It'll not be a sudden 'we should all be friends again' kind of moment

but he may be the first one to reach. Even if he's suffering, even if the feelings are still not 'good', he would see that Basil and Sunny suffered for their own actions, that they didn't want to cause pain, and he'd probably do his best to approach them even before fully processing his own feelings.

Aubrey. Aubrey is someone who gets angry, yes, but she almost did an 'accident' with Basil too. She pushed him into the lake. She would have to see and understand that it's not that much different, I think she'd come not too shortly after Kel, at least

Personal opinons here

Heck, I think Basil himself may need time to process his own feelings about the whole situation

He:
-- Lived in his own delusion
-- Smiles at Sunny as soon as he wakes up. AFTER STABBING HIM. Because Sunny is still there, I guess? That before even processing what happened or whatever else.
-- At the point of the truth, he still believes Something is real, unlike Sunny
-- his FACE

This unused 'friends's reaction to the truth' shows us that once Basil's reality falls apart, he may not take things that lightly

Imagine the guilt and the pain and the horror about what he did

The truth can't sprinkle glitters over wounds and magically heal them

[compact peak]

Anyway, when I empathize with everyone, I feel really sad.
Even though their friends at the hospital didn't forgive them, I can't help but hope for a good outcome.
When I think about the feelings of Polly, Sunny's mother, and others other than those five, my sadness only grows stronger.

[rigid token]

Oh, absolutely. I agree with you in this.
I think pain was part of so many people's lives by that point and I hope they'll all slowly grow past it.
I also strongly believe Sunny's mom knew, like his dad, so I have very strong feelings toward her. On one hand, she feels neglectful, on the other hand I think she was falling apart herself given.... everything

[arctic junco]

Nah, the ideal ending is having Basil lose everything and everyone!

[rigid token]

(I will be honest, I'd PAY to see the very moment Basil realizes the truth himself)

[rigid token]

He is my precious child and I will fight you over this 😛

[arctic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/basil-omori-omori-basil-basil-dancing-depression-gif-13954466053984707105

[compact peak]

I do hope Basil will be saved, because he has suffered since saving Sunny (in the worst way).

[arctic junco]

(I'd pay to see everyone ganging up Basil and Sunny fr)

[rigid token]

I feel the same. I just don't think his salvation can come through sunny.

It's something that has to start in Basil himself

I find it very important that one of the things Kel told him is 'we are still friends' because I don't think Basil believed that doe one second past the incident

[compact peak]

This is just my personal opinion, but I want basil to become friends with CHARLENE.
I think she is a kind person, and she came to the plant store.

[rigid token]

She also gives Sunny a flower hairpin. That may or not may be similar to the one Basil lost, a silent 'we are sorry that happened, I noticed he lost it, please give him this'

I think Basil and Charlene have potential. I think he's also rather similar to angel, even if his personality seems the opposite (Parents not in the picture, a single caregiver in the family, seeking refuge and family comfort between friends) so I think Charlene would have those....

huh

'caretaker' feelings like she does with angel?

[compact peak]

In elementary school, we were all friends, but how about you? Do you stop talking to each other when you're in a different community?

[rigid token]

As an autistic person with no sense of 'passing time' and no 'relationship decay' it's.... I wouldn't probably realize I'm drifring away.

Then again I didn't keep contact with anyone of my childhood 'friends' since i was relentlessly bullied

and in my case I actively avoid those people

(which is why for me basil and aubrey together is such a sore spot as well, for example)

[compact peak]

I see…

It's difficult! I know that relationships can heal or hurt people, but anyway, there are different types depending on the person...

[arctic junco]

Now I'm already imagining Basil drifting away with the others before college
I bet he'll crash out (And this is assuming the incident DOESN'T happen)

With the incident, he'll probably be much worse

[compact peak]

I hope he immerses himself in plant research in college.
(But that won't help his interpersonal relationships... hmmm.)

[arctic junco]

Hmmmm
I like Basil more as a photography kinda guy

Doe I like him best at his core
Without his plants and pictures, Basil is uhhhhhh

Broken

[compact peak]

Ah, if the incident hadn't happened... he would still be taking pictures.
He would have taken pictures of Kel, who had grown taller, and Aubrey and Mari, with their hair dyed pink and purple, and written messages in the photo albums like he did back then.

[rigid token]

I think Basil had pre-existing issues. He would have been better for sure but he'd still have a problem in clinging to Sunny, probably

[rigid token]

(I'm not saying they're bad, it's just- personal experience speaks to me. And as someone who has been hit and pushed and humiliated I wouldn't be able to reconcile romantic feelings and memories of that. Also I am not entirely sure if the machine is translating correcntly but I want to reassure you I am not using a strong language)

[marble smelt]

yeah he definitely did
a 12 year old who's first instinct is to ||stage a suicide instead of calling for help after seeing his best friend push his sister down the stairs|| isn't mentally okay

[rigid token]

In my mod I made Basil interested in pottery, for example. Because he can 1) make his own vases 2) He can focus on creating

[rigid token]

I know. I don't blame or hate him, though,I just strongly believe he needed help even before the incident. his unhealthy attachment to Sunny probaly came from the fact Sunny was very good at listening

and Basil felt.. 'safe'?

[arctic junco]

Did Omocat know the implications when they wrote him years ago...

[rigid token]

I think so. She wrote a LOT of messed up (and beautiful) stuff before

butterflies Beloved

[marble smelt]

yep i fully agree, he was just a 12 year old with mental issues (which wasn't his fault because he was a child) who was put in some very, very unfortunate circumstances

[rigid token]

Love is my favorite of the bunch

[arctic junco]

Darn, are they findable through their socials? Or is it one of those "Find 'em like hidden treasure!" types of posts?

[rigid token]

I am not too keen on pretty Boy. it's nice but very 'stereotypical gay'

[rigid token]

I had the file, I know someone here has access to it. it's VERy good, intense even fi short

let mefind it

[arctic junco]

I dunno, I like Pretty Boy
He's pretty
And he's a boy

[marble smelt]

i personally believe basil has bpd (borderline personality disorder) and that's what made him so attached to sunny (symptoms usually start showing up around 12-14), and he fits a lot of the symptoms
i also have bpd though so i might be biased

[arctic junco]

Feel free to DM if ya find it!

[compact peak]

I learned that many people think that it can't be explained away as "he was still a child."
The friend who pushed my sister down the stairs carried her to bed once, hoping to convince herself that she was just sleeping. At this point, sunny herself was in a very precarious mental state.

[arctic junco]

It's funny how almost none in the friend group can fit the average joe of having little to no issues lol

[rigid token]

Like I see Kel as having some of my own disorders (marked adhd, for example) and uses caffeine as self medication without realizing (orange joe)(it has a LOT of caffeine)

We are all a bit biased. BPD may work for Basil but I think post incident he also had a post traumatic psychosis running in. I just know the way he ended up grabbing sunny as 'everything' was very unhealthy even back then

[compact peak]

Depending on how you look at it, Mari's pathological perfectionism could have been a problem.

[marble smelt]

i can definitely see kel having adhd, that would explain a lot about his character

[rigid token]

First: we all seem to agree her perfectionism is part of the many issues at hand. She did push sunny a lot and from the little Audio we have? It seems she was really angry with sunny.

Second: no one says 'just a child' about basil. Not here at least. We just think both Basil and Sunny were in a very delicate state of mind, but Basil's mental state started deteriorating much earlier than the actual incident

[rigid token]

Sunny and schizophrenia was my work essay in november, in two years I plan to make Kel and adhd. Symptoms and everthing lines up so incredibly well

[arctic junco]

Tfw if everyone were born a decade or two later, they would have gotten help much earlier

[marble smelt]

that actually sounds really interesting, would you be comfortable with sharing that? no worries if not im just curious to read it lol (assuming its in english)

[rigid token]

(Also, Basil definitely struggles with rejection sensitive dysphoria)

[compact peak]

Considering his impulsive nature, he may have had a tendency towards BPD. I learned something new.

[arctic junco]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-he-just-like-he-just-like-me-fr-meme-gif-573734217303447410

[rigid token]

It's in Italian. But I keep telling myself I WILL translate it in english. Sunny is, voluntarily or not, one of the best schizophrenia examples in recent media. Not demonized, just part of the life itself

I literally have a Hallucination list

For all thre days

I just still have to finish putting it down

he has a LOT of those and a lot of other symptoms

And while most of them ARe stress related, which is common for post traumatic psychosis, many of them just kind of 'happen' like they're part of his everyday life

If you look at Basil, he sees things when he panics. When he stresses up. When he's afraid.
Sunny sees Capt spaceboy chilling on top of hobbez on Three days left just because yes (and it's gone right after entering in hobbeez the first time with kel)

[marble smelt]

the fridge and microwave werent hallucinations were they? hero used those to cook on 1 day left

[rigid token]

He did not. He was on the stove. And with the fridge empty, he either got the food from home OR went to buy it before sunny woke up

[marble smelt]

ah fair

[compact peak]

Very interesting. I can't say for sure since it hasn't been officially mentioned, but it's cool to see things from these behavioral trends.

[rigid token]

He's doing eggs and bacon, you don't need anything more than a lil flame to cook them

[rigid token]

I'm a healthcare worker with an obsession over mental health so I do admit this is an hyperfixiation of mine

[arctic junco]

I don't think Omocat even can officially mention that stuff

Media handling that stuff is still dicey, even to this day

[rigid token]

Yeah. that's when things start being picked apart.
The only thing I know is that the DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) people I know, told me they don't feel like Omori is an alter, for example

[compact peak]

I know lol (ships are the same thing)
Even if the illness hasn't been officially diagnosed, considering the possibility of an illness based on the tendency helps us understand the character's characteristics better.
It's interesting to revisit the work from this perspective.

[rigid token]

(ships are dangerous and scary at times 😛 This is a joke)
I think the best part is the freedom of interpretation. I see bits of me in Kel, for example, so of course I lean toward that interpretation. Other people may read him in a different light. I think there would be bitterness if omocat just said 'oh, character X is that' because that would cut out the ability of some people to see bits of themselves in them.
I love analyzing their minds.
Sadly, I feel like Aubrey is one I pay little attention to (compared to the rest of the cast) but I think she is, despite her anger management issues and abandonment related trauma) actually rather stable?

[arctic junco]

Aubrey and Basil are more similar than some people think imo

The Basil and Aubrey fandoms at war on each other going for my throat:

https://tenor.com/view/tangled-flynn-rider-i-dont-sing-swords-gif-7186585

[rigid token]

They are but they're also very different. They choose very different ways to handle their abandonment related issues/trauma tho

[arctic junco]

I have to agree. Anything substantial being officially confirmed might chip away at the longevity the characters have

Like, reveal more about their interests or favorite food or whatever, that's A-OK
But the more deep stuff? Omocat might risk pigeon-holding them into specific spots, ig? Dunno how to explain it

[rigid token]

It's the same with ships. I think anything too confirming may cause only big fandom rifts

Let people speculate and have fun

[quiet whale]

why was chapter nine like actually good

did they put down nui and replace her

[violet river]

Their abusive relationship vs our healthy companionship

Their baseless ship vs our canonical relation

Their barbarian shippers vs our respectable enjoyers

Their disrespectable takes vs our logical conclusions

[rigid token]

Pardon?

[violet river]

Joke about shipping fandom rifts

[hazy ocean]

Ships I like = healthy, good media literacy, peak writing. Ships I dislike = abusives, out of character, you're litteraly an awful person if you like them.

[violet river]

It is a reference to this

[violet river]

Real and true

[rigid token]

LOL

[tulip skiff]

this is true!

[zealous widget]

40K leakage in #omori-manga-📖 !!!

Exterminatus channel AT ONCE

[spiral willow]

Dont forget the incel ships

[arctic junco]

The involuntary celibate ships?

[hazy ocean]

Nobody wanna date Sunny because he is ugly and stinks

[lilac summit]

Why is sunny like 4 foot and 75 pounds soaking wet in the manga.

[hazy ocean]

The real question is why Kel so thin

Sunny being so skinny seems accurate to me

[arctic junco]

If Sunny has Omoriboy in his head

[hallow plover]

when does the new chapter come out

[marble smelt]

around the 24th of each month

[lilac summit]

Truth nuke right here

[stoic bear]

wair rhisss isssint lossst library-

WHOOOPSSSS

IGNORE WHAT I SSSAID

I THOUGHT THISSS WASSS THE LIBRARY!

[compact peak]

I eat everything

[rigid token]

THIS. I would pay real good money for proper muscular Kel

[stuck hare]

[spiral willow]

Meanwhile, Kel for the past 4 years: 🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️

[violet aurora]

Sunny having three ships at once:

[hazy ocean]

"Three ships"

He is shipped with litteraly every single character in the game

Sunflower, Suntan and Sunburn are just the most popular

[violet aurora]

That mf is a fucking magnet holy shit

[tawdry grove]

But only one of these are good. (Joke)

[quartz swan]

I don't like the manga 💔💔 sorry guys

[violet aurora]

It's okay bro everyone's got opinions

[quartz swan]

hugs you

[violet river]

What one means by that

[quartz swan]

OH DEAR LORD

[hazy ocean]

Canon accurate Kel

[nimble cobalt]

Kel is so real for that

[rigid token]

NOT LIKE THAT ç_ç

[rain bramble]

ahem just realized i have to point out one more thing
seems like last time the nui specials were limited to 2 per person

don't know if there will be limitations this time
maybe it'll be more loose this time
as last time there's only one kind of nui special

but who knows
maybe it could be as strict as
2 kinds per person

we'll see till then anyways

maybe it can also be 2 per bookshop aka 2 per each kind

[fallow perch]

heh... nice pfp.. 😼

[nimble cobalt]

You too buddy

[violet river]

What is the appropriate amount of Kel muscle then? Pick

[hazy ocean]

He might a but too old in the first one

But the next two are the perfect amount of muscles

[violet aurora]

How did we go from Omori manga to Kel bulking

[hazy ocean]

He doesn't go to the gym. His body is just athletic.

[hazy ocean]

Did you see manga kel ?

[violet aurora]

I know, I know, I know, but not literally like this random thing lmao

I mean man they really buffed him in the manga

[hazy ocean]

This guy needs to eat and work out

[violet aurora]

Who? Me?

[hazy ocean]

Mainly Kel

But you too if you want

[violet aurora]

Tbh Sunny is the one that needs to

He keeps passing out

[hazy ocean]

Sunny needs to work out, eat and stay outside for a bit.

I dont think there is any vitamin D in his body

[violet aurora]

I don't even think he has protein

Idk maybe 2g

He's gonna eat something and it's raw steak

[hazy ocean]

Also, he only eat like, once a day .

[rigid token]

I'd go with the second one. SO good design wise

[rigid token]

"I don't think there si any vitaming in his body' - fixed it for you

he also doesn't QUITE eat. he goes eating out with friends in the sunny route but he never actually.... reaches for the food?

[tulip skiff]

he kinda just stares at it yeah

If he ate anything in the manga he vomited it so

[hazy ocean]

I think they just didnt bother making sprites for it in the game

[rigid token]

They make sprites moving for everyone else in the game

[hazy ocean]

Do we see him eat anything in the manga ?

[rigid token]

kel is especially blatant but duh

[tulip skiff]

.

[rigid token]

and no, not int the manga.

[hazy ocean]

Oh ok

[rigid token]

he didn't even get to basil's dinner table, he just threw up in the bathroom like a boss, fainted and then basil ditched him there

truly a W moment of the manga

(I'm still not over it)