omori-manga-📖

[rain bramble]

"That kid also vanished in a hole like that"
Location:

actually there is a third one
"Next chapter,we 'll be touching the abyss of this world"

it is located at the bottem of the page above,which is also the last page of this chapter

now you may be wondering what does "the abyss of this world"
means

[tulip skiff]

there is 3 different interpretations of that and an area literally called abyss

lets just assume its lost library

[rain bramble]

i mean i already saw someone who read the japanese version think it's black space

[tulip skiff]

imagine

[pine lagoon]

...She has to just be saying that to promote the manga at this point

"Artstyle is improving" bitch the first page has a 6 finger Aubrey and the artstyle is messier than before

[pine lagoon]

If it is, then at this point I think they're done with the Manga and want to move on

As in they're already tired of it... at chapter 7

[tulip skiff]

i mean he only fucks up half the hands now instead of all of them

[pine lagoon]

Not that much of an improvement when the hands are messier in general

[tulip skiff]

he had to make 12 extra pages thats why the art is bad, he only had a month to make them after all

[rain bramble]

it's a 3 months hiatus

[pine lagoon]

Shh... Laupig is in his Joker phase rn

[floral burrow]

does anyone have a link to read the chapter?

[marble smelt]

i’ll dm you

[cold tulip]

can u send it to me

[marble smelt]

yep

[winter mantle]

Jonkler

[winter mantle]

happier = more miss so at least they got that correctly

[hasty jolt]

boi! ts tuff

[calm swallow]

me too please

[quiet pewter]

can someone dm the leaked doc

[rigid token]

Check your dms

[compact peak]

It's a pain to open this channel the day after the latest chapter is updated and translate and read every single comment (lol). It hasn't even been 24 hours yet and there are already so many alphabetical comments.
So, how many complaints about this chapter would it be in bullet points?

[rigid token]

My only bullet point is still: the pacing.

And the way ||Fear of spiders|| was handled because it really, really disappointed me. Sorry, I was really hoping that they would handle it as you suggested but it was underwhelming at best and having someone else solve it really put me down considering the processing of Sunny's issues IS what draws me the most to the games. And here it's... almost pushed to the side?

Those are my two points, honestly

I can try to go up and check other people's comments, though!

• From Japanese tio English, some things weren't translated at all and are missing. Which... makes no sense

• Art not good according to more than one person. It's something I don't comment upon since mine isn't that good either. I think it actually improved a bit.
• Rushed pacing, Sunny is still on Basil's bathroom floor for all we know and in headspace we're basically at the end of day 2?
• Inconsistent size of enemies
• Pacing. no one likes the pacinc.
• NPC kills spider and it's underwhelming at best while originally it was a major plot point.

Overall those are the main complains.

In terms of positives there's a little feedback in that sense. I will say Kel's faces keep being the best. I love my lil guy and I love all the expressions.

(Also, again, no sales for outside specific regions and I hate to have to pirate things, but we already had this talk. I also don't undersand WHY english localization cut some things)

(and the list may sound negative but you specifically asked for complains, sorry)

[compact peak]

Yes, thanks for compiling the complaints list. I understand there are still complaints about the pacing. I have to turn a blind eye to the piracy issue (I hope that people in areas where manga services like Kmanga are available will be compensated as human beings, and that will also be the case if Kmanga is distributed in the future).

As for the opinion that you don't like the art style, well, I'm sure there are people who feel that way. I'm tolerant of it as long as you don't use foul language to insult the author or insult his character. (Is this a translation problem or a slang problem? Anyway, I feel sad every time I see bad writing.)

I agree with you that the spider phobia should have been explored in more detail.
But when it came to the size of the spider and the NPC killing it, I just thought "Oh, so that's how it plays out." Because, as I said before, this is an OMORI manga, not an OMORI game.
In the game, you fought against a giant spider phobia in the real world. In this chapter, you faced the spider in your headspace, but in my opinion, it doesn't matter if it's small because it's a literal physical spider.

[rigid token]

Trust me, the moment I can actually purchase it properly I will.

HUh... there is some mistranslation there, I fear. I said some people do not like the art, which is fair, but I said I personally felt like there was some improverment. It got a bit better. I did not use foul language nor I saw personal attacks on Nui here. There was more complains about Omocat lately than Nui, but I fear like it's a translation error becuase while i'm not often around, I've not seen anything overly aggressive.

Bad writing is... a common one. When you take all elements of a story and put them in a random order, it's bound to upset some people. I wrote a work essay about Omori, over-analyzing it as a perfect example of wonderfully written mental illness representation in gaming media (I work healthcare) and I feel quite disappointed by how the manga cannot replicate that in the slihtest.

slightest

BUT I am at least aware it's a matter of personal tastes.

As someone who writes a lot, once even professionally to some degree, I find myself confused by many narrative choices.

[compact peak]

Sorry, I didn't mean it in response to your comments. I meant it in response to all the comments I've seen here and on other social media sites. Sorry if the translation isn't accurate.
（＞＞I did not use foul language nor I saw personal attacks on Nui here.）

[rigid token]

Also, please, if you feel like we're overly aggressive about something? Feel free to contact me if you want me to rephrase something for you for better translation.
OH! And absolutely valid! I was just worried something came across from me as distasteful when it was not my intention. I think Nui needs to work a lot more on their story pacing. And worry not, I'm just glad people arent' being too nasty in here.

Personally I think you can dislike someone's work without being a nasty person yourself.

[compact peak]

About this? Which part?

[rigid token]

Let me pick it up. it's mostly side comments from what I've seen

As you can see it posted a bit above, we're missing some side comments

which is just... pardon my language, disappointing on the translation side

[compact peak]

I think I need to explain the structure of Japanese manga culture here.
The comments written on the outside of the manga I'm referring to here are called "Inciting Complaints" (is that the correct translation?).
These side comments are mostly added by editors.
Or people in charge of manga magazines. (Since OMORI manga is serialized in Monthly Afternoon, it would be more accurate to say editors of Afternoon.)

[rigid token]

OH- that is new. But I do admit I'm new to the manga scene, I've never been invested into it until I played Omori. It's a bit of a new world for me, as a whole, so it's good to learn.
So I guess we're missing editor comments?

[compact peak]

Please note that this will only be written in the print magazine.
Even if it is a Japanese version, it will be removed when it is published in book form.

[rigid token]

that is fascinating, I had no idea

I guess it makes sense for people who are approaching the manga world only from Omori, like me, to get some things wrong. I guess I was upset over nothing in that sense, apologies.

[compact peak]

There's no need to apologize. I don't have much knowledge about foreign cultures, and living in Japan, I really couldn't understand when I saw the comment "Basil has bedroom eyes."

Examples of "Inciting Complaints"

[rigid token]

Absoltely understandable. I think our cultural differences speak loudly of how different sometimes we perceive things. I am glad we can actually have a discussion here and share our differences.

And I see. So they're like little things the editors add in for the sake of convincing people to purchase the next volume, right? I had no idea.

[compact peak]

Yes. It's no exaggeration to say that it's in almost every manga serialized in a manga magazine.

The sentence at the end of the episode is also used as a brief preview of the next episode.

[rigid token]

That makes sense. And it explains at least why a few comments like that are missing in the english trnaslation

[midnight atlas]

Ive only learnt about the existence of the manga today, what's the release schedule for the chapters?

[rigid token]

One each month, around the 24

Numbers of pages each chapter? Vary time to time

Seven chapters released so far

[midnight atlas]

Cool so chapter 8 is expected March 24th?

[rigid token]

Pretty much, yes, even if we had a jhiatus before so it's not a full guaranteed

[midnight atlas]

Alright nice ty

[humble gazelle]

just realized pluto isnt even in the manga

we arent flexing and we arent feeling our best

[rigid token]

:°)

Pluto isn't there AND the best pet rock barely got a mention

[spare valve]

I just realized that

Sad

[compact peak]

If progress continues at this pace, it is unlikely that Pluto will appear at the last resort.

[humble gazelle]

so like mr jawsum just fights them and then just gives up?

[winter mantle]

manga prolly going down hikikomori route @rigid token

[rigid token]

Mixer route ay best

He alreadynl left the jouse

[winter mantle]

what's that one manga with the main character name rhyming "omori" and another person called mari again @rigid token

[rigid token]

... what

[compact peak]

https://x.com/nui_purple/status/1894343335671976044
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X · Feb 25, 2025, 11:07 AM

[solid rover]

can someone send me chapter 7?

[lavish nebula]

Same
Pretty please !

[marble smelt]

ill dm you

[obtuse iron]

Me too please that would be lovely c:

[signal cedar]

Yeahhhhh agree

[signal cedar]

YEAH WHERE IS PLUTO WTF

[marble smelt]

sent a dm!

[obtuse iron]

Okay

[terse crater]

Me when no Pluto:

[dawn finch]

SWEETHEART IN OMORI MANGAAAAA???

[stoic bear]

YESSSSS

MY WIFEEEE

[tulip skiff]

whiteheart

[stoic bear]

yeah thatsss my only complaint for her

where’d the color go 💔

[tulip skiff]

nui is whitewashing the characters to save on printing costs 🔥

[stoic bear]

atleassst wife made it into the manga here

but tell me

||why the hell did sssshe almosssst fucking die????|| (ahem-) ||getting crussshed or whatever the hell happened||

[tulip skiff]

to make the battle more epic..... probably

how did spaceboy even get there

[stoic bear]

not complaining i love me ssssome angssst

[tulip skiff]

like

a full fucking pillar falls onto her

spaceboy just teleports inside the castle

and sweetheart is unharmed

[stoic bear]

mmmhm

that would mossst likely be collateral damage,
thatsss not jussst a thing you walk away from

[tulip skiff]

gets pushed back by a fucking eggplant plushie but is unharmed by a full ass pillar

[stoic bear]

you’d have atleassst more than 1 broken bone, potentially paralysssisss if sssevere enough, and/or death.
BUT HOW

[tulip skiff]

also nuclear take

the hero that sweetheart is thinking about is the most normal looking person in the entire manga

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342023338939125801/1343946385895981117/20250224_104648.jpg?ex=67bf1f1b&is=67bdcd9b&hm=3fb3204e6ae6a777d7849a6702ab85ac73cf3cc43a71fde196de2de0191f0d7f&

[stoic bear]

mmmmhm

look i’ve gotta run.,. but i’ll be back later

[serene juniper]

once again the manga is feeding my sweetheart headcanons further

[stoic bear]

ME TOO

ok now i have to go

[stoic bear]

but firssst lmao

[tulip skiff]

i love how no one noticed that rosa was just written out

good

[stoic bear]

helpsss me make ideasss for my fanfic im working on

[serene juniper]

when you try to make a toddler look more mature it just cancels out yeah

[stoic bear]

oh, oh boy i’m going to have a field day with thisss for my fic

ok yeah goodbye chat lmao

i’ll be back later

[tulip skiff]

anyways uhhh

i cant wait for them to cut to orange oasis when sunny actually goes to sleep

and just forget that unbread twins are normally blocked by water

[compact peak]

Both will be omitted and will not appear.

[quiet whale]

Bro is NOT the allowance snake 😭

[tulip skiff]

i mean

[quiet whale]

RIP allowance snake

i always appreciated the allowance

[tulip skiff]

if they keep the pace of headspace cuts they are following now they are gonna run out of headspace by the lake

[quiet whale]

Again

[tulip skiff]

and having sunny not cut to headspace when he GOES TO SLEEP would be just wrong

[quiet whale]

I have NO experience in story telling but I am so confident that I can write the manga way better then omocat

and she made the damn game

[tulip skiff]

omocat isnt doing all the writing for this

[quiet whale]

whoever it is

[tulip skiff]

but nui dosnt know what he is writing either so

[quiet whale]

I am so confident I could out-do them

Idk the first thing about writing a story and i only finished omori a few months ago

[loud bison]

Same here please

[marble smelt]

ill dm you

[stoic bear]

hehehe

[rigid token]

Not babyfaced hero FTW. He almost looks like a teen

[winter mantle]

there’s an uncensored version?? i didn’t know that

[lusty oracle]

the uncensored version looks odd

[rigid horizon]

ahhhhh

why manga isnt released on any website?

like ch 7 is released right?

[lusty oracle]

Yea

[snow moss]

2 year delay

[humble gazelle]

oh jesus sunny hasnt even gone to sleep once in the manga and were like halfway already

[keen citrus]

so is omori going to become a full blown hardcover manga? or is it already a thing?

[magic oasis]

volume one is released in japan as a physical manga. i'm not sure if it will ever release in the USA or other regions though

[keen citrus]

darn thats a shame

I love the game so far (im new) and when i heard it was a manga i got super excited cus i love manga as well

[rigid horizon]

why it isnt on any web

[magic oasis]

Yeah, I get that.
I was so excited as well. The manga does skip over a lot of details though, so if you want a full telling of the story, I recommend to play the game

[keen citrus]

I'm currently playing it as we speak lol

[nimble bloom]

what part of the game are you at?

[keen citrus]

I just started but I am at sweethearts castle trying to escape right now i haven't done any bosses

[nimble bloom]

you about to fight a boss in awhile

[keen citrus]

oh nice

[haughty violet]

So

Whom of the bosses have we now seen

Ik Sweetheart one of em

But what of King Crawler & Carnivore

Oh yea and Sir Maximus

Forgot about him

[keen citrus]

so

im not afraid of water

i just got to the last resort

thats it so far

im going to sleep now

its 1 am on a schoolnight

[haughty violet]

I got the day off

[keen citrus]

lucky

[vital turret]

Man... I just read the new chapter and I gotta say this is the first one where i have genuine problems with it.

Sweetheart is the GOAT and I have to say she was done extremely dirty for her introduction.

I could excuse some weird pacing decisions previously but I feel like this chapter highlights the oroboros of suck that was slowly eating at the manga.

[stoic bear]

they didint ssshow me

thisss isss ssstupid >:(

[haughty violet]

...So they just showed Sweetheart

Wtf

[rigid token]

She lost her entire personality, yeah

[snow moss]

Buddy was the best part of this chapter

My goat

[acoustic marten]

This message is peak fiction (except it's real)

"Ouroboros of suck" is my new favourite term 🔥

[signal cedar]

Yeah I feel like she was too nice? Idk

Like she's supposed to be a lot more spoiled rotten and self centred but it feels like they erased that part of her character along with her tanned skin

[tulip skiff]

to be fair she only had like 3 panels worth of dialogue

before the fight

[fleet glacier]

i':ve only read the manga up to chapter 2

how is Sweetheart even portrayed in the newest one tho

[rigid token]

-inhales- that's a hard question to answeer

she has a 0.01% of her personality

and you basically encounter her only at the final wedding

[vital turret]

Ok some more pointed criticisms. Sweethearts more cut down introduction waters down her character dramatically.

Think about the build up to her as a character in the game. Back on otherworld only ever hear of rumors of Spaceboy and Sweetheart's break up nothing ever could tip you off of her narcissistic nature aside from some sutble lines from some of Spaceboys loyal Space Pirates.

Even then nothing about how Spaceboy talks of sweetheart back on Otherworld in the best of light (as someone who is lovesick should.)

Then when you first see her in the game she is trying to find love, but Sweetheart's Quest for hearts does a lot of things.

Not only does it set up her ego driven personality and the baseline of her character but it also does a lot to intimidate the player.

She a vindictive ojou-sama princess a person of royalty with extremely high standards, she persecuted anyone who gives her any sort of slight whatsoever.

Then after clawing your way out of the depths of the castle you then get to see he deeper machinations. She isn't just a Ojou-sama with high standards. She's a twisted narcissist who has deluded herself into believing that marrying herself is and reasonable course of action.

Then compare it to the Manga.

The only mention of Sweetheart before he introduction was Chapter 5 even then it's made super clear from Spaceboy that Sweetheart is a dick. (With even Aubrey commenting on how bad that is.) There is no intrigue or mystique.

She doesn't give our initial baseline either for her personality either. (Note she never puts anyone in a dungeon herself. The gang just fall into a trap conviently.)

Then when you finally do meet her she does come across as narcissistic, but she comes across like self absorbed brat who cares for nothing but herself then a character who should be feared. (I will say the fight somewhat made up for that, but in my opinion it's too little too late.)

She's the defacto headspace antagonist that isn't Sunny's trauma biting him in the ass.

She's lacking her high and mighty personality and teeth that she had in the original and it makes for a poor intro to an antagonist.

[compact peak]

That's an interesting observation. It's true that if there had been a depiction of someone being held captive by Sweetheart when she fell underground, it might have been possible to emphasize more what kind of person Sweetheart is.

[tulip skiff]

also there is way less motivation for them to even enter the castle here, tho you could explain that by them being looking out for basil, which isnt mentioned much in the manga anyways

in the game you get the ticket moles that help state that aubrey wants to go see quest for hearts

in here they just kinda

stumble upon the castle

they enter for no real reason

sure you could say the same about humprey, but there its specifically stated that they are looking for basil

[compact peak]

Just my opinion. Considering the last line of Episode 6 of HERO, I'm forgetting Basil's existence more rapidly than I did in the game.

[tulip skiff]

actually

you are 100% right

they forgot basil instantly

they actually have no reason to just enter

it wasnt that hard to just like

have spaceboy give them the tickets or something

it woudnt be that far off you are just replacing spaceboy giving them the orange oasis train ticket

its not hard to write in

they literally hang out with him writing silly love letters for HALF A CHAPTER already

but that would mean actually acknowledging quest of hearts exists and we dont have time for that

we need to fit the major headspace arc in 1 chapter!

[vital turret]

Honestly i did not like Buddy in this new chapter at all. Mostly because... like why didn't they just make it so Spaceboy meets up with Sweetheart instead. I feel like you could get some tension from Spaceboy confronting his Ex at their worst.

Also the idea of Spaceboy very unwillingly having to throw hands with Sweetheart is an amazing image that would have made up all of this chapters shenanigans in my opinion.

[tulip skiff]

having them specifically state that they forgot basil is also stupid from a context perspective

because you are kinda meant to forget about basil inbetween sweetheart and last resort anyways

[rigid token]

I am mostly avoiding coments about this chapter because It's my least favorite one. I was really disappointed.

[tulip skiff]

that one scene in last resort where kel specifically reminds aubrey that they need to look out for basil works because at that point YOU forgot about that

its never actually mentioned during the entierty of day 2

[rigid token]

The pacing has REALLY been all over the place and I really disliked this. But I feel like many of the common feelings here are also mine

[compact peak]

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but it's very difficult to make the long journey through PYREFLY FOREST, SPROUT MALL VILLAGE, and SWEET DUNGEON interesting, so I thought it was the right decision to cut them out. I know some people won't agree with me because the pacing is too fast though.

[tulip skiff]

cutting them out is fine with me

[rigid token]

Perhaps you're right, Dran, but also sweetheart has been murdered, personality wise

[tulip skiff]

but the issue is that there isnt any reason why they would actually go there

[rigid token]

And the spider fear really needed more and better focus

[vital turret]

It's the execution of it that sucks ass not the principle.

[tulip skiff]

they forgot basil and they never got the tickets to the show that would actually make them want to go inside the castle

they just stumble upon it cuz they are walking arround

[rigid token]

and yes. Already forgetting Basil is another big issue in my opinion because you lose the main driginv force

and the perception that things are slowly fading away

[tulip skiff]

pyrefly forest dosnt really serve a purpose if sunnys fear of spiders is gonna be skipped over

and sprout mole village would have looked silly with how small sprout moles are

but that dosnt mean they can just

walk into sweethearts castle because its there

[compact peak]

I honestly agree with you about Buddy.
...Buddy?! Why?! I feel like that very strongly (lol).

[rigid token]

Buddy was a big ??? moment

[vital turret]

Well no, they Hero specifically says to Omori at the end of chapter 6.

"Alright it's time to go on another adventure"

Before cutting away to the castle. Just for shits and giggles.

[tulip skiff]

buddy exists for 2 reasons

1 to not make sunny face his fear of spiders

2 literal get out of jail free card

[rigid token]

It ALSO weakens spaceboy and all. on one part Sweetheart doesn't seem intersted and she seems to be pushed when Buddy comes in and is like 'you MUST give him another chance' basically

[tulip skiff]

i still preefer it over the door just being open from a manga standpoint

that would have been so stupid

but like

really

[rigid token]

It felt pushy, unhealthy and Sweetheart halfway felt more like a half victim there

[compact peak]

Although it was the glue that was needed to turn the story into a manga, it seems that Rococo was the right choice for the job.

[rigid token]

I WANT ROCOCO CONTENT SO BADLY

[tulip skiff]

the thing is that like

[vital turret]

Again why not just make it so Spaceboy does it instead, Spaceboy vs. Sweetheart WAS RIGHT THERE!

[tulip skiff]

the jail was completely avoidable

[rigid token]

Buddy. completely forgettable

[tulip skiff]

they could have just walked into the wedding and nothing would have changed other than them not metting buddy

its not like the inside of the castle gets any screentime

[rigid token]

There was no kel gay moment of him dancing with a male sprout mole ç_ç

[compact peak]

If Space Boy had been there from the beginning, it might be a little difficult to depict when he becomes interested in HERO.

[vital turret]

It's contrived. In the worst way possible.

[tulip skiff]

in the game they are put on the jail because she gets pissed off at hero rejecting her, which also helps expand her character a little and show that yeah, she fucking sucks

[rigid token]

no cake killing scene

[tulip skiff]

but we just skip to the fight here!

again

the spider on the jail would not be needed

if the manga was paced properly

and sunny WAS IN HIS HOUSE

you could just do the actual fear of spiders segment

[compact peak]

It's hard to explain my thoughts...After being consumed by the darkness of RW Basil, OMORI found himself in front of Sweetheart Castle.

[tulip skiff]

it would fit more naturally

[vital turret]

So i guess it's not just me who finds this chapter a bit controversial huh?

Lol

[tulip skiff]

i mean

i still dont think that any chapter is actually good as a whole

chapter 6 has a good scene

[compact peak]

People who encounter Omori for the first time through the manga rather than the game will likely be confused and not really understand what is going on. And I believe that this confusion caused by the depiction was exactly what we were aiming for.

[tulip skiff]

but the rest is eh

[vital turret]

I agree to an extent, but I feel like chapter 7 kinda went off the rails a bit. For me I could overlook a lot of the changes before because frankly I didn't think the pacing was too bad at first, but oddly it feels like the pace has gotten faster and faster. It makes me wonder how many chapters Omocat was greenlit for anyways.

[compact peak]

I definitely need to depict the arachnophobia, but if I go back to the real world now, I'll have to go back to the real world again, even though the previous chapter just switched to OMORI's point of view.

[tulip skiff]

my main issue with chapter 7 is not necesarely that they fit the whole of sweetheart into 1 chapter, we dont know what they are working with time wise

my issue is that most of the issues with the chapter right now could have been avoided by just pacing things differently

and adding 2 LINES OF DIALOGUE on chapter 5

[compact peak]

Omori will probably end in five volumes at most in book form. However, that was expected from the moment the series was decided.

[tulip skiff]

it was genuinely harder to break things as much as they did than adapt it properly

just make spaceboy give them/they randomly find the tickets to sweethearts wedding and half the issues are solved

[compact peak]

At this rate it will probably end in 2 or 3 volumes.

[tulip skiff]

i can see 3 volumes

they will probably take 2 chapters to do the entierty of faraway day 2

[vital turret]

Well yeah as I said the oroboros of suck strikes again. Personally I would've drawn out Sweethearts castle for 2 or maybe even 3 chapters mostly because Sweetheart is kinda a big deal but I still can't know the constraints by which this was made so maybe that wasn't possible.

[tulip skiff]

so volume 2 will probably end by either the lake or finishing humprey

depends on if they do blackspace as a separate cut or not

so 5 chapters for blackspace to the ending feels right with the crazy pacing they are doing

[compact peak]

All rooms in Black Space are skipped. If there is one, it will be just a conversation with the Stranger.

[tulip skiff]

in retrospective it almost feels like they dragged out otherworld to make the volume end where they wanted it

because like

[vital turret]

Don't count your luck just yet maybe they can go even faster.

[tulip skiff]

chapter 5 is so fucking slow

[compact peak]

Probably true.

[tulip skiff]

if you have 15 chapters to work with you cant spend half the chapter on a scene that appears early (and doing the MAIN FIGHT OF THE VOLUME HAPPEN OFFSCREEN) and then the other half on some silly love letter thing

just have more focus on faraway and you can END DAY 1 FOR THE FIRST VOLUME and end spaceboy at the proper time

we are halfway trough volume 2 and we are still on faraway day 1

aka the other 2 days are gonna be extremely rushed out

[compact peak]

#1, White Space and NEIGHBOR'S ROOM
#2, Hide and seek in FOREST PLAYGROUND (and start fighting the boss)
#3, Fight the boss
#4, Go to Basil's house (and start fighting YE OLD SPROUT)
#5, Follow up with YE OLD SPROUT
#6, Something strange happens at Basil's house, Sunny wakes up and faces her fear of heights
#7, Go back to Headspace and go to OTHERWORLD (this story ends with a long ladder)

What about the chapter pacing I suggested a few days ago?

[tulip skiff]

whitout a chapter limit? yeah this is fine

[compact peak]

I don't know if it will be interesting. I understand that the current pace is angering OMORI players, but if the pace is changed, it is unclear whether the manga will be commercially successful, including among OMORI's first impression people.

I've come across opinions on the internet saying "I can draw OMORI manga better than NUI," but ironically the manga they submit are just NUI storytelling that they've painted over with paint.
If there's a better work that can be produced with completely original storytelling, I'd love to see it soon.

[tulip skiff]

#1 everything up to sunny opening the door
#2 basically everything up to finding aubrey on the chuch, mind you the manga dosnt acknowledge the hooligans
#3 church fight and have sunny cut to headspace while searching for the trash can, do chapter 2 (mind you chapter 2 has 24 pages instead of 48)
#4 everything up to the meltdown on basils house
#5 basically just otherworld

with the breakneck pacing they have you can totally do this

yes i am skipping hide and seek with this, which is a fine choise when you consider that manga starts with a flashback that already introduces the characters

this still leaves you whitout the entierty of day 1 done by the first volume

but you can just finish it off on chapter 6

make sunny go to sleep, fear of spiders and start sweetheart

and we end up where we are now!

but the difference is that faraway day 1 is done and sunnys arachnophobia was actually acknowledged well

[compact peak]

Nice. I guess cutting the hooligans would be ok.

[tulip skiff]

the only blurry part about this is the park fight, might be too short

but like

the pacing is stupid already

you can make up for it

[compact peak]

Well, my suggestion is a bit tongue-in-cheek. It's not necessary to faithfully reproduce everything exactly as in the game.

[tulip skiff]

there is no real way to fit the entire game into a manga with less than 4 volumes whitout removing anything, omori is too big of a game to do that

but if they are gonna remove things then like

give faraway some more focus

people love the faraway chapters but we have really only gotten 3 dedicated faraway chapters so far

and one of those is chapter 1 which half of it isnt even in faraway

they want to cut things out and make the story faster but want to fit everything at once to make it seem like the whiplash from headspace to faraway still exists

hell no it dosnt

in this manga omori dosnt exist

its literally just sunny

[compact peak]

(Hmm... it might be slang and I don't understand it 100%.)
There is a part in the real world where the hero returns. It's a bit difficult to decide what part to delete from this part.

[tulip skiff]

i dont think they are gonna cut anything from there

they are gonna cut everything leading up to the lake scene tho i can tell you that much

which.... yeahhh the whole part of sunny and kel doing groceries feels dragged out even in the game

it dosnt serve much of a purpose

[rigid token]

Oka listen

may I? I need to say this

I cannot get over whitewashed Sweetheart

She was NOT white and it's driving me insane and I cannot yell about it with anyone

[compact peak]

Ah, no need to shop.

[rigid token]

Now we have Kim, Mikhael and Sweetheart all suddenly white

[tulip skiff]

they are saving on printing costs dw

[rigid token]

Ah yes that's clearly the ONLY reason they'd turn a darker skinned character white

[cinder lodge]

they are saving on printing costs dw

[rigid token]

I'm sorry, it genuinely upsets me

[tulip skiff]

i mean

these mfers use fucking like

points to buy chapters

i can see them whitewashing characters to keep printing costs low

[cinder lodge]

omocat doesnt make enough money

[rigid token]

we both know omocat has been whitewashing he own characters for a whole now

[cinder lodge]

as we all know omori is extremely niche and they cant afford

[tropic hawk]

you're overthinking it

[tulip skiff]

idk i just think the printing costs explanation is funny

and demonizes kodansha which is always good

[rigid token]

I'm sorry this chapter just keeps upsetting me

[tulip skiff]

i just think its poorly written

[serene juniper]

kel

[rigid token]

Kel indeed, kel is love

[cinder lodge]

i have many issues with the omori manga and none of them are to do with the writing

[compact peak]

Sorry, I'm too brain-dead to come up with a satisfactory explanation for this.

[cinder lodge]

because it's obviously been made for a younger audience

[tulip skiff]

yeah no thats just a side effect from reading this thing

dont worry too much about it

[rigid token]

Please never epologize. Omocat turning her character 'whiter' has been an issue for a while now.

[compact peak]

But let me state categorically that there is in no way any discriminatory intent behind it.

[tropic hawk]

they probably just forgot tbh

[rigid token]

I wish I could believe that DRAN

[tulip skiff]

we got racist omocat team before gta6

crazy

[rigid token]

I've just been holding back in talking about it but it's been

bubbling in my chest

[compact peak]

I'm curious about the "whiter" part. Are Japanese people depicted as yellow overseas?

[rigid token]

no

Omori ir set in america though

and kim,mikhael and kel all have darker skin

only Kel managed to keep his color

[cinder lodge]

why arent they all overweight

[rigid token]

that's a depressing stereotype

[snow moss]

valid questio

[cinder lodge]

it holds truth to it

[snow moss]

most of americans die due to heart failure

[cinder lodge]

mhm

[snow moss]

and more then half of americans are obese

[cinder lodge]

!!

[rigid token]

Please do not make a general statement like that

[compact peak]

It may be an arrogant thought, but I have considered the possibility that Sunny and Mari are Japanese-American.

[cinder lodge]

they are

[snow moss]

its in the data

[rigid token]

@compact peak it's a common headcanon actually

[snow moss]

commonly thought so

i can see it

[cinder lodge]

omori is meant to have a fandom and i think thats one of the main problems

[rigid token]

in my fanworks Sunny and Mari are third genreation japanese immigrants

[vital turret]

Yeah no, that's never an excuse for poor writing in my opinion.

Like this manga feels hard to follow and incoherent sometimes.

[snow moss]

how so

[cinder lodge]

yeah its no excuse but it obviously is made for a younger audience

[rigid token]

I really want to love the manga but it keeps really hurting my heart

[compact peak]

But their skin is not yellow, and I don't get angry about that.

[snow moss]

counter arguement: buddy

[cinder lodge]

i dont know how to like explain it but just trust me bro 🙏

[snow moss]

and your skin is?

[cinder lodge]

red white and blue 🇺🇸

[tropic hawk]

jaundice

[snow moss]

how is having a fandom a issue of the omori

[rigid token]

I do admit I have slight confusion over this statement.

[snow moss]

why are you speaking in fancy

[rigid token]

I am tring to speak easy to translate since he's using a program to translate this conversation

basic curtesy

[cinder lodge]

[compact peak]

This might upset some people, but I've never really cared about my skin.

[snow moss]

oh

[snow moss]

who does its 2025 racism is long gone by now atleast i hope

[snow moss]

your source is :"trust me bro" isnt it

[rigid token]

I think it's more culturally charged for us. And good dark skinned representation is a bit... rarer in our media.

[cinder lodge]

yurr

[compact peak]

It will never go away. Humans are human.

[rigid token]

Again, cultural differences

[snow moss]

fair point

[rigid token]

that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak against it, though

[compact peak]

If I have offended you, I should really blame myself. I never wanted to make you uncomfortable.

[vital turret]

I think what he's trying to get at is the fandom is largely dead. Simply put the game has not in the public eye anymore.

It was Omocat's one hit wonder that, was successful by all means but it just never took off as something broadly known on the internet.

[compact peak]

Of course. It would be better if there was no discrimination. Only you and I can make an effort to achieve that, but humans are imperfect.

[snow moss]

most indie games

[vital turret]

True, but it's also clear Omocat is trying to make this sort of thing a long lasting success when it's not it shouldn't be.

Yet the likely hood of her making a new game again is very slim to none unfortunately.

[rigid token]

You did not my apologies if it came out that way. I'm just saying that representation of darker skinned people in media is a matter of relative importance in the conversation. And it is heavily frowned upon to 'turn people white'' It's a whole, long, complicated discussion to have, I fear

'yellow skin' asians is considered a racist representation as well

[tulip skiff]

simpso

[rigid token]

I'm sorry if this was to politically charged but I've been stewing two days about 'white sweetheart' and how much it annoys me

and omocat is american she should know how people feel about this

[compact peak]

In the previous discussion, it was said that only Kel kept his skin color. I don't know the details, but is Kel black? HERO and his parents are lighter skinned than Kel, so I think he's tanned.

[rigid token]

They're heavily hinted to be of Mexican origin

[vital turret]

They are suggested to be Latino decent.

[rigid token]

which is generally a darker skin type than 'white' so to speak, to use simpler terms to translate

the little 'altar' you see in their house is typically mexican

[compact peak]

I see. I've learned something.

[rigid token]

as I always learn something talking with yiou

[vital turret]

Yeah the Ofrenda is kinda the nail in the coffin there.

Bassically they have photos of loved specifically those that are deceased.

[compact peak]

I'm not good at writing sentences... No matter how I write, there is a possibility that it will be misunderstood. About skin color

[rigid token]

Itis okay, I can always try to rephrase

[safe abyss]

nocause mesican kel is my heart and soul

[rigid token]

also for what it's worth: i am very glad we can discuss tings and compare how different our worldviews are

different prospectives are always preciosu to have

[compact peak]

It is true that the manga was not drawn with a strong tone, so that cannot be overturned. I did not think that this would be an element that would sadden so many people.
However, in Japanese culture and sensibilities, skin color is not important. The issue is that no matter what skin color someone is a character. They are human beings. I believe that this does not in any way include discriminatory connotations.
I hope that this sentence has been conveyed well. Anyway, cultures are different. Japanese people place more importance on the color of the mind than on the color of the skin.

[rigid token]

Sadly, many people love Omori for its story. Me included

The manga having a much 'lighter' tone and not matching how the game 'felt' makes many of us feel like this is a 'cash grab' drawn without soul

[vital turret]

Well hold on Omori had a light tone to an extent but the major thing that made it special was the psychological horror that was underneath. Lurking around every corner.

[rigid token]

As for the skin color thing: I absolutely agree that skin color is irrelevant in one person, but we have a long, deep history of offensive portrayals of 'non white' people in media and there's a lot of 'whitewashing' in which to appeal more to the public skin colors are changed. (not to mention, some media like pokemon, had controversies of people making mods to make darker skinned characters 'better' (not my words, theirs))

Generally changing one character's skin color is not seen as 'good' one way or another. Whitewashing is poorly received, making the little mermaid black in the remake was not perceived well... it's culturally very charged

[rigid token]

I agree I LOVE running omori and every time I still feel like i discover something. Sunny's mom statue that follows you around and turns 'sad' when you are behind it wasone of my most recent discoveries and I am always blown away

the manga feels like 'oh yes, let's take omori butmake it happy and barely touch the horror elements'. What drives me INSANE is that the few moments we saw nui using those elements their style was AMAZING

I will step away for 15 minutes, i suddenly feel really sad so I will go buy myself a hot chocolate to make

[vital turret]

Man I really need to get back into doing fanfiction and modding. Damn its been so long.

[compact peak]

I agree with the opinion that the skin color should not be changed. Although the first volume in which Mikael appears has already been published, I will send an email to ask if you can consider adding a tone to the second volume in which Sweetheart appears.

[rigid token]

Do publishers actually listen as much in Japan? It feels like a dream from our point of view

[compact peak]

It may just have been good timing, but after I sent an email asking them to expand KMANGA's distribution area, the distribution area actually did expand.
It wasn't my doing, but I feel it's better than saying nothing at all.

But talking here really makes me think about cultural differences.
From a Japanese perspective, Basil has a Christian thought process and Sunny has a Buddhist thought process, but is Buddhist thinking known overseas?

[rigid token]

I am currently not jome but i would love to hear about this

I was Christian and I did not make any association of that kind qlwith basil

[rigid token]

Back home. I do feel like that was an incredibly happy thing to happen. I do pray that things in Japan allow more feedback than here, where voices are often unheard of.

And cultural differences: I'm ready to listen. I don't think I know much about buddhism, but I'm willing to learn. Personally Basil's action felt more driven by denial than any religious convintion but I'm listening

[grave fable]

y'know what would be crazy
if in a future chapter where the gang gets in a fight like with jawsum or smt they make a reference to the kel nuke and just casually make him 1 shot the boss

[marble smelt]

tbh depending on how involved omocat is in writing the script i could see that

[grave fable]

i mean they already made it canon cuz he uses it in the console version
so it could be a silly lil mention of the tech

[marble smelt]

they already referenced it in the friends fight so doesn’t seem too unrealistic

yeah

[grave fable]

great minds think alike

rea

[grave fable]

bro
techincally

people who played the game already know the next events in the manga early

[tulip skiff]

JAWSUM IS THE ONE BOSS WHERE THIS JOKE DOSNT WORK HE WOULD JUST HIT THE GATOR GUYS!!!!

[grave fable]

just kill the gator guys first then absolutetly violate him with the kel nuke

or just use arby's power hit

OR.
getfriend to use their ultimate attack

release energy thing

[acoustic marten]

Manga will be interesting. I am excited for jawsum / last resort, but scared for humphrey

[tulip skiff]

i am scared for slime girls

[acoustic marten]

this

Scared for the actual bossfight segment The lab thing should be fine (i think)

[spare valve]

I am very scared for slime girls

Seeing what expressions sweetheart made in ch7 when talking to hero

[acoustic marten]

but im excited for jawsum he will be fire right laupig

[tulip skiff]

i love how the hero sweetheart is fantasizing about is actually just a normal looking person

[acoustic marten]

They definitely WONT take his shades away

[tulip skiff]

i mean

how do you make jawsum not cool

its jawsum

[acoustic marten]

[spare valve]

Me and my friend had our hopes up when reading they wouldnt include the hero sweetheart thing

Unfortunately you can imagine our disappointment

[tulip skiff]

this is nui we are talking about

he would add it even if held at gunpoint

[acoustic marten]

to be faiiiir sweetheart might be the only "normal looking person" in headspace, everyone else has at least one unrealistic feature

Though I am probably forgetting someone

idk

[acoustic marten]

also thats only ingame anyways manga could interpet any way

[lusty oracle]

I hope we get to see kel DOWNING a cup of coffee and that’s when we realise.. like it doesn’t tell us we just see it happen

Like I hope it recreates that “OH SHIT LMAO WHAT” feeling you get when fighting the fake gang and you slowly realise they’re doing the kel nuke on you

[haughty violet]

Elaborate

[compact peak]

Basil regarded Sunny as divine, and saw him as salvation itself.
(To put it more emphatically, it seems he even saw Sunny as god.)
Sonny sought salvation within himself. He repeatedly struggled with the world he had created inside himself.
In this respect, I felt that Basil had a Christian thought process, and Sunny had a Buddhist thought process.

[rigid token]

At work but please know I will reply in about two hours. It is fascinating because as healthcare worker I had a whole different, non religious, take. Not that your idea feels wrongx quite the contrary, but I also wanted to share mine

[rigid token]

Adding here: maybe unable to elaborate on what I meant until much later. I finished work but I have to go help the family for now.

[fleet glacier]

hi manga channel

ok goodnight

i only wanted to send something here

[rain bramble]

well for Sunny his Black Space have Christian references too i suppose

[winter mantle]

Is the mangá official?

[nimble bloom]

yes

[winter mantle]

Oh, that's exciting.

[keen citrus]

fr

[sour mortar]

so hows the next chapter?

[rigid token]

It exists

[wet hamlet]

pdf anyone?
I can't find anywhere that has pages formatted like a book
only vertical format

[vocal marsh]

Probably at the end of March

[snow moss]

absooute cinema

added the best charater

buddy

[spare valve]

Horrors

[tender ledge]

Controversial opinion: the manga is ok, i do enjoy it but i don't like the changes and the reorder of events. (SPOILERS)
||In the game, Mari's death was a huge reveal, but in the manga they kinda just told you immediately, even teased in the first couple pages that she is Something. Also its kinda strange to me that Sunny can go in and out of headspace at will, like he went into headspace when hanging out with Kel. I also feel that spending time with the Headspace version of characters then seeing them in the real world made the change a bigger impact then real world then headspace because you see how happy the characters were when sunny remembered them. Thered a bunch of different minor problems i have with the manga, but i am eager to see how they potray black space||

[marble smelt]

thats not controversial wdym 😭

[magic oasis]

i honestly agree.
I mostly kept up with the manga only for the art and see what they'd do with certain things

[acoustic marten]

||I imagine black space will be something to the effect of House of Leaves.||

[terse vessel]

ok so

I finally bought the manga

(can i send pics here cus i don't see anyone sending pics)

[delicate orbit]

yea, u can

dw

[terse vessel]

oh ok

so this thing

thought this to be only available in Japan?

didn't see anyone mention it in English

[winter mantle]

Wait. Can you get it physical in Europe in other languages than Japanese?

Not like, ordering online.

Because I wouldn't think I'd find it here in mangá stores.

[terse vessel]

Don't think so, seems like there's only Japanese ver

Mine come straight from Japan, even got that plastic cover intact

cost me about 10 dollars, shipping included

and 3 months of waiting smh

Bought it mostly for that tokuten (特典) thingy, not sure how to translate that

A photo styled clear card thing drawn by OMOCAT themselves

I got the bagel one

[fast vigil]

This ain't really controversial tbh

[snow moss]

The omori anime is real

[winter mantle]

Well, lucky you know the language.

I will just read online I think.

[signal cedar]

I think right now, it's only in Japanese. But physical copies with English translation has to be imminent, considering that there are so many English-speaking omori fans

[signal cedar]

Apparently it means "benefits" in English. So basically, the photo cards are bonus content included in the manga

[burnt coyote]

Despite everything its still you

[marble smelt]

ill dm you

u should probably delete that message though lol we cant really use that word, discord doesnt like it and its a partnered server

[round wagon]

K

[twilit yarrow]

wahh there's a mangaa

where do I find it?

[marble smelt]

its on k manga but only for a few countries

america, canada, new zealand, australia, japan, singapore, philippines, thailand, vietnam, hong kong, taiwan, india, mexico, and brazil

if you dont live in those countries you need a vpn to access it

its paywalled after the 3rd chapter though

if any of those things are an issue i can dm you

[twilit yarrow]

Ooh okay thank you! I do live in one of those countries, so I'll be able to find it! Thank youu!

[marble smelt]

alr epic!

[hasty spruce]

so angry at kmanga for even existing, such a terrible site

[languid pendant]

Isaac?

[terse vessel]

though I'm pretty sure Esau didn't die from falling off stairs…

[lime canyon]

this is so what the omori manga should look like (not my art btw)..

[grim temple]

İ hope not

Pls no

[plush rapids]

is this actually the manga? I found this read-along thing on YouTube, didnt want to spend 15$ on a book, so i figured i’d try youtube. The thing that has my puzzled is that it’s in color, but images of the manga show it in black and white. https://youtu.be/YaNxAZdzTs0

is this legit?

[plush rapids]

and what the hell did they do to kel and practically everyone else?

[tulip skiff]

yeah

also chapters 1-3 are free to read

[tulip skiff]

nuification aka the one artstyle that absolutely does not work for a game like this

[compact peak]

It's really amazing that there is a Fast comic book like there is a Fast movie.
It's really amazing, I'm really amazed. Sigh

[tulip skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-awful-meme-funny-gif-24724857

[quiet whale]

Y'all ever heard of omori re-written

its such a funny mod thats just a giant middle finger to nui and the entire manga

[plush rapids]

although, i know the artstyle is kinda required, it really makes some of the cast look really young. Like you’d swear hero was like 12 in the manga, despite being 15 in the game

[quiet whale]

also whyd they make hero so zesty

[tulip skiff]

chapter 1 is!!!!!!

[quiet whale]

i noticed your ass on the stream i was watching

[tulip skiff]

kyoshi stream?

[quiet whale]

yessir

[plush rapids]

also, related to both the manga and game, but sunny must really suck at cookig

[quiet whale]

why 😭

[plush rapids]

steaks are the easiest thing to cook right

[tulip skiff]

i mean

[plush rapids]

salt, pepper, and butter

[quiet whale]

the power was out in his house

he ate a raw steak

[tulip skiff]

he microwaved a steak for 6 seconds if you wanna take it literally

[plush rapids]

gas stove?

[tulip skiff]

i mean yeah

[plush rapids]

couldnt he light his stove?

[tulip skiff]

he could have just used the oven

[plush rapids]

with a match?

[quiet whale]

He clearly didnt though

[tulip skiff]

but do you think that his depressed ass learned how to cook

mari being able to bake cookies at her age dosnt mean that sunny has touched an oven in his life

[plush rapids]

true, but that’s like saying a depressed person couldnt make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich either

[tulip skiff]

....i mean

this is sunny we are talking about

[plush rapids]

like steak is so easy for anyone to make. It’s got the smallest risk of poisoning other than fish

[tulip skiff]

bro starves himself for 3 days on hikkiko route instead of going and buying food

[quiet whale]

bro he hallucinated the steak cooking and then just chowed down into a raw steak

[tulip skiff]

if his fridge is empty hed rather fucking starve

i can believe it from him

[plush rapids]

dont germans eat raw beef or something on bread?

[tulip skiff]

omocat eats raw beef

sunny aint omocat tho

[quiet whale]

sunny isnt german so he isnt built like that

[plush rapids]

like beef is the safest meat to eat raw other than fish like salmon

i could see if sunny ate pork or chicken

then yes he’d rightfully get sick

[tulip skiff]

i mean raw beef is usually prepared for you to like

not fucking die

mind you

that beef could have been in the fridge for all we know

[plush rapids]

also, who on earth has a sign that says “bathroom” hanging on the door? Besides sunny that is

[tulip skiff]

who knows what state that thing was in

its the only thing in the fridge

[plush rapids]

like usually you know what room is the bathroom

it’s the only room with a toilet in it

and a bathtub

[compact peak]

Is this just Japanese manga culture? Regarding the discrepancy in apparent ages: Jotaro Kujo is 17 years old.

[plush rapids]

also, aubrey did her bat all wrong, arent the nails supposed to be very long so they go through both sides of the bat? I wouldnt know personally, i dont use baseball bats

[tulip skiff]

i kinda got over it at this point, also damm

[compact peak]

If you put a nail through the bat it will split.

[plush rapids]

and holy cow to the third power, aubrey looks 6

[compact peak]

The Japanese sensibility is really different...

For example, how old does she look?

[tulip skiff]

3

[compact peak]

OK, I asked the question poorly.
As you all hope, it shouldn't have been drawn by a Japanese artist, if an American drew it, the problem of discrepancies between appearance and age would have been solved. Like American comics.

[plush rapids]

true, even if a european drew it (like a german or an englishman) it would still work probably

[tulip skiff]

i think its more an issue of the like

size of the characters more than anything

[plush rapids]

the faces surely dont help

[tulip skiff]

like

nui has literally shown that he can draw a way more normal looking person with that one chapter 7 panel

[compact peak]

Since manga is written in Japanese, the speech bubbles are vertically long. This is because Japanese is basically read from top to bottom.
If they were later translated into English, which is read from left to right, they would certainly be narrow.

[tulip skiff]

you were right there nui 💔

[compact peak]

Are you talking about HERO?

[tulip skiff]

yes

this isnt just because its a closer shot either

its THIS ONE PANEL

THIS ONE SPECIFIC PANEL that draws people like that

that one panel is still an insane step up from other close up shots

with the exception of like

[compact peak]

Unfortunately, this is an exaggerated expression of a sweetheart falling in love with a charming hero.
This expression is often used.

[tulip skiff]

spaceboy at the end of chapter 4

[compact peak]

Love is blind

[tulip skiff]

https://www.omocat-blog.com/post/39522768561/in-case-what-youre-wondering-what-im-up-to-these

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908994759962554368/1340911357096231024/IMG_5688.gif

im just sayin

[compact peak]

If that means you don't want a serious discussion, then I'm sorry.

[tulip skiff]

no i mean that

omocat has already done this

and it has looked way more natural

this isnt close to omoris artstyle either

and i dont think it being closed to omoris artstyle is necesary

but just the character design here looks a lot cleaner both from afar and closeup

[compact peak]

At the very least, I think making it anime- or manga-like is unavoidable since the main market is the Japanese market.
If the main market was really English-speaking countries, they would hire an English-speaking artist.

[tulip skiff]

and omocat did this literally 10 years ago

if she was actually willing to make this and draw it herself now it would blow it out of the park

[compact peak]

So that means you have the option to see it painted 10 years ago?

[tulip skiff]

im saying that omocat 10 years ago basically did it better

the artist being japanese isnt the issue here

its just nuis artstyle specifically being weird

[compact peak]

But she's Japanese, and her art style is accepted in Japan.
The only sad thing is the fact that it's only in Japan.

[marble smelt]

by the way just so youre aware the person youre talking to is japanese and using a translator so it might be better to avoid idioms

[tulip skiff]

i know

i just go off the rails a little at times

[tulip skiff]

its kinda hard to explain why i think this artstyle works in a way that nuis dosnt

[compact peak]

Sorry

[tulip skiff]

its fine

its mostly my fault

[compact peak]

Is it because it's not okay to portray young people in an attractive way?

[tulip skiff]

i guess a good way to put it is that nuis artstyle is too detailed in comparison to how omori art is usually drawn

omori is kinda meant to have... a more cartoony artstyle i guess is the right way to put it?

and the pages omocat drew show that pretty well

with the big eyes and generally low detail omori has

mewo is literally just a black blob

i think nui is trying to hard to make the characters look "better" with all the detail and texture and all that

let alone that it dosnt acomplish it in itself

it dosnt really fit omori

[compact peak]

Is "deformation" the basis of OMORI's unique way of drawing OMORI?

[tulip skiff]

its a lot more exagerated is what i mean

[tulip skiff]

this just feels a lot more like omoris original artstyle basically

[compact peak]

Does this mean OMORI should have been depicted as OMORIBOY?

https://www.omocat-blog.com/post/57264870461/omoriboy-omoris-story-omoris-sketchbook-omori

[tulip skiff]

no i just think that the amount of detail nui tries to put into the art makes it not fit the original artstyle omori is going for

[compact peak]

It may seem a bit rough, but you can color it by filling in the area using what is known as a "paint tool."

Details? Like the background?

Like hair?

[tulip skiff]

i really dont know how to explain what i mean whitout outright doing a side to side comparison and i dont feel like doing that

[compact peak]

Okay, sorry if I offended you.

[tulip skiff]

its not your fault dont worry about that

[plush rapids]

this reminds me of a game i saw in an ad, cant remember the name though

[compact peak]

Are you talking about the ads for the rip-off game that stole elements from Pokemon and the like?

[stoic bear]

hello

[plush rapids]

wait, is basil calling omori fat? He says in the manga that he’s bulbous like a white tulip, and the mushroom thing in the game also says he is bulbous.

[pine lagoon]

And then turned out to be a shitty idle game rather than a thought-provoking psychorror

[plush rapids]

nono, some weird game, i’ll try to find a picture of it

cant find it anywhere

[compact peak]

https://x.com/Evertale_JP/status/1379809044982943747?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1379809044982943747|twgr^9b3ceb885eea4342080e0aca6b22978211729c4c|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnote.com%2Fkoukoku_miruyo%2Fn%2Fn7a87aa6c8cd1
It's a stupid rip-off game with ad fraud, so it's probably not even worth knowing about.

エバーテイル (@Evertale_JP) on X

モンスター育成RPGのエバーテイルが今なら無料！

世界９９か国で有料RPGランキング１位を獲得した日本のRPG！

X · Apr 7, 2021, 2:51 PM

[spare valve]

I get what your saying yeah

Might be another reason why i dont like the style

[rigid token]

I am only reading part of it but I will be honest:I loved and LOVED Omocat's old work. Omoriboy was very different but unique in his own way, I would love to see both omori AND Omoriboy. Have you seen 'butterfly' from Omocat? the manga style was incredible back then

I feel a LOT more from those drawings than the ones from the manga, sadly

https://x.com/iamaomoboy/status/1883030415289864551

omoboy (@iamaomoboy) on X

BUTTERFLIES - 2012 “LOST” omocat comic

🧵(1/13)

#OMOCAT #OMORI

X · Jan 25, 2025, 5:53 AM

butterflies was AMAZING

(content warning for murder)

[rigid token]

I know of evertale, downloaded it for pure curiosity because I wanted to check how deep the scam went.... it's a BAD game

[quiet whale]

MARI THAT WASNT YOUR LINE

[stoic bear]

i’ve heard about it, but itsss been yearsss sssince i did hear bout evertale

[compact peak]

I didn't know about this manga, is this another omocat account?

[rigid token]

It is lost content. She published it, it was lost in 2012 and it was found

It is beautiful and heartbreaki g and it is content that is no longer being sold.

*heartbreaking

Omocat's old style and content still gives me chills, good ones.

[compact peak]

Unless it's omocat's own account, I can't read it all.
But when I searched, I was able to find only the beginning on omocat's blog.
I was able to get the general idea of ​​the atmosphere. It's dark, with a serious feel. It has a different kind of merit from nui's art style.
I'm not sure if this is the right way to describe it, but OMORIBOY's art style is like Egyptian murals.

[rigid token]

It is not. I am afraid there's no 'official' omocat release of that anymore.
And I get what you mean by egyptian murals- I love omocat's old art style over the more commercial and fluff one of the latest years. It had something special and surreal.

[knotty shoal]

MatPat's Evertale video is the only reason I even knew of Omori's existence in the first place lol

[compact peak]

Ah, I think I finally get it.
I think I wanted to hear that people like this kind of art style.
I know there are people who don't like NUI's art style, but more than that, I think when people heard that OMORI was going to be a manga, they assumed OMOCAT would be in charge of the illustrations.
And that didn't happen. That might be one of the many reasons people are angry.
I take it you were saying here that the OMORI manga should be drawn in the OLD OMOCAT art style, rather than NUI or the current OMOCAT art style (which you described as commercial).
That was the most reasonable opinion I've ever heard. It was easy to understand, especially since you didn't use slang or abusive language. Thank you.

[rain bramble]

well i kinda want to ask a question
what is the most popular omori ship in Japan

(and the idiom "ship" have equal meaning to "CP" in Japanese internet community if i'm not wrong)

[compact peak]

From what I've observed, OMORI×SUNNY is the most popular. (In Japan, the order of the names is important.)
The next most popular ones are Sunflower, HeroMari, and Sunburn, in that order.
This is purely my personal opinion. All kinds of ships are accepted. The setting where the gender of the body is reversed by drinking the mystery potion is also popular.

[compact peak]

Yes. In Japan it is called CP (meaning coupling).

[tulip skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-awful-meme-funny-gif-24724857

[rigid token]

If you don't mind I can show you something when I talk about Omocat's old art style.

I ALSO do suggest you not to use CP as term outside ofJapan since it has a much darker and criminal meaning outside of it

Look at THIS. This is the single best piece of art Omocat ever created, in my opinion. It's whimsical, dreamy, grounded enough to make you go 'oh, yes, this is a scene that makes sense' and at the same time it makes you see enough things that are 'wrong' that you know this is a dream

the colors pop out, they're pastel but also strong, you can see both the 'front', a peaceful place where to stay, and that plenty lurks behind. It stimuates your curiosity, it makes you ask questions, it has you go 'what even IS there?'

And, again, the colors are out of this world

When I compare it with my least omocat piece of all times?

This is so incredibly generic, it lacks the magic that got me into omori in the first place. Even the headspace equivalent is just flat (and this is not counting the weird artistic choices that are in it, I have plenty of comments on the art itself)

I cannot even begin to COMPARE the styles. I 'miss' the old Omocat. The sharpness despite the soft lines, the bold choices that aren't just 'generic cute manga'

I'm sorry if I sound too critic, but I think the old omocat style is something modern omocat and Nui both lack. And man I could rant for hours about every single old piece meanwhile most of the new ones make me go 'aw, cute' and move on

[rigid token]

Also this saddens me as strong SunnyxKel shipper but glad to see Heromari up there. they DO deserve more love

Also unrelated but I was checking old art and- I SO wish we got the Love Bench

Look at those two. Sunny looks so done and Kel is like 'oh no I tried to flirt and this is backfiring in such a spectacular manner'

But yeah. Old style would have been fantastic fort the manga

Mind you I am AWARE all this talk is just me being nostalgic. Omocat AND Nui wil never see anything I write and they'll continue their way, but man old omocat was just beautiful

Sorry for the long winded talk, I just open my 'old omocat' folder and start weeping in nostalgia

I also want to make it clear this kind of commentary is coming out of love for this work. I ADORE Omori and I pray to see it grow and do better and better

[tulip skiff]

alive mari

wrong reply

[tulip skiff]

also yeah i feel like you explained it better than i could about why i think nuis artstyle dosnt fit

its how the legs and arms are drawn

specifically

lemme grab something for comparison

eh i dont have anything i can compare to a proper sprite

nuis artstyle is a bit too sharp

[rigid token]

I'm listening, I'm listening and I'm glad my comments made sense. honestly, even Modern!Omocat doesn't match her old charm anymore

Back to the previous drawing, my favorite, i LOVE how the composition gives you, on the top, the locations of the DEMO from 2014. And then it shows you a place for the kids to play and then so much more. It's a trailer alone in a single picture, it makes you ask 'what else is there?' because it gives you jsut enoguh of a glimpse without spoilering anything. you KNOW there is so much more and I love it so much

Sorry I lose myself when I start talking about old omocat

[rain bramble]

oh well
same as here in China

[rain bramble]

oh and by that
the “CP" meaning and the ” "order of the names" part is same here too
in which the left name represents the top(攻) the right name represents the bottom(受)

[compact peak]

(I didn't know that CP had a criminal meaning. It's called coupling because it means forming a couple.)
Hmm... so it seems to me that manga, a "bande dessinée," itself wasn't suited to being an art form to begin with. Especially in terms of color. Manga is basically drawn in black and white. Not being able to visualize purple, the main color of OMORI's headspace, would make it difficult to sense visually that it's a dream.
Listening to your opinion, I think picture books would have been a better art form for OMORI than manga.

[rain bramble]

i mean yep i dont know it either
i once thought the term was originated in EU/NA but it's actually originated from Japan ACGN community

(and ACGN is actually a chinese internet term,in Japan it's にじげん i suppose)

[compact peak]

From what I can tell, ship (CP) culture was already popular during the Edo period. (AD 1603~)

[rain bramble]

well
you mean the actual ship or is there anything i dont really get or know

[compact peak]

It's about the culture itself.

[rain bramble]

would you care to elaborate
i'm afraid i don't know much about Japanese history

[compact peak]

A married couple was attacked by a robber, who told them to "take off their clothes."
When the wife tried to take her clothes off, the robber said, "It's not you, the man has to take them off." The wife was having a dream about this.
A picture with this content was drawn in the Edo period.
It is predicted that at this point, women were creating (shipping) love stories between men.
The translation may not be accurate. Anyway, what this picture shows is what is called yaoi culture in Japan.

||https://x.com/kuma_neko_/status/947659157917667328||

[dense rose]

Wha

Also you REALLY shouldn't refer to ship culture as CP

[compact peak]

I wrote about that above.
I understand that in Asia it's called CP, but globally it's called shipping because it has criminal connotations.

I understand that. Here we write ship.

What does that mean?

[sterile thorn]

Okay let’s move on

[dense rose]

Im embarassing myself now

We should

[compact peak]

I'm using an automatic translation so sorry if I said something wrong.

[dense rose]

Nah, not your fault

[compact peak]

Well, it's a bit difficult to research foreign memes. I did an image search but couldn't really understand them.

[sterile thorn]

We don’t need to probe into it anymore

[compact peak]

All right, But I'm bothered by the fact that there are things I don't know.

[valid willow]

well here is not the place to discuss it 🩷 it is not appropriate for the server

[rain bramble]

i mean this is more like the origin of yaoi but yeah that term comes from yaoi if im not wrong
anyways i'll end this topic here

[compact peak]

I didn't realize that the word CP was a serious word until everyone mentioned it so many times. I learned something new from this.
I will be conscious of using the word ship in this community, but I apologize if the machine translation mistakenly uses the word CP.

[short warren]

Whos “you”? 😭

[compact peak]

Ah, maybe it's the machine translation again.
Would it be more accurate to say everyone instead of you?
Edit.

[short warren]

Yes

[compact peak]

Sorry if I offended you.

[rigid token]

I will not get too deep into the meaning but I'm certain a single google search can help you with that.

And... I thinnk all media is valuable, I just fear Nui's style and Omocat's modern style don't encapsule the feeling of Omori. I feel like we fell in love with a fairytale (a dark and messy one) and now what made part of that magic true is being stripped away.

But that's a personal opinion

That being said: I hope you're all having a good day

IRight now my main concern is not knowing how much Mari's music seets will cost and if I'll be able to purchase them, as someone who plays piano

[rain bramble]

i mean i was informed by someone about this term has bad meaning yet i still dk what it is yep i will google it later i suppose(

[rigid token]

Do you want tme to address the term to you through Personal Message? It's just highly unappropriate here

[rain bramble]

yep of course

[stiff island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJUxPFezbN8

what do you think :3

[odd robin]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-approved-gif-27640148

[plush rapids]

lol when i saw ||sunny stare at the trash can in chapter 3, i thought he was gonna chuck the whole thing at kim, instead he threw just a single can...||

[winter mantle]

How long does it take for each chapter to be released?

[dry prairie]

heh theres an omori manga??

[winter mantle]

Yes

Official.

[dry prairie]

oooo i didnt know that

and btw love the aqua pfp ☺️

[winter mantle]

Thankssss

I love it too.

Aqua is cool.

[dry prairie]

frrr i read the oshi no ko manga

[winter mantle]

It's fire.

I just wish the ending was a bit less rushed

And I wish Aqua had better character arcs.

That's all.

Other than that, fire.

[dry prairie]

fr straight heat i loved it

[pallid ridge]

Damn that's fire

[oak zenith]

SINCE WHEN WAS THIS A THING?

I was browsing the store I usually get my manga at and got jumpscared by omori 😭😭

[marble smelt]

like

almost a year

july 2024 iirc

[winter mantle]

It is one of the most hilarious things I have read.

[pallid ridge]

Why do bagel look in the manga?

[winter mantle]

What.

[ancient stratus]

nui made the antithesis to stardust crusaders

these so called 16 yr olds look like fucking toddlers

[ancient stratus]

mari is so pretty

i still prefer the new omocat over nui

because nui's style works only in the context of shit like

merchandise

while omocat's is more versatile

i could see omocat's style in animation and comics but nui's is just so uncanny

[reef drum]

Hi guys

[stiff island]

hello

[torn onyx]

the new OMOCAT is still good

[rigid token]

I don't like the new omocat, sorry. I think she's still good, but it's generic, old omocat was a magicla trip.

I''m not saying she'0s bad at drawing but I miss the old sttyle

[snow moss]

hello omori manga chat

[snow moss]

why

[winter mantle]

Eren pfp.

Goated.

[winter mantle]

Just found it really funny.

[snow moss]

type shi

[snow moss]

yeah

[snow moss]

fair lmao

[fallow phoenix]

Deadchat?

[tulip robin]

i guess

[marble smelt]

this channel is for a manga that hasnt been updated in 2 weeks what would there be to talk about 😭

[compact peak]

People gather on the day the manga is updated to say whatever they want.

[rigid token]

I am always open to talk about omori related stuff

Sadly no manga stuff today.

I am however THRILLED to say 'the boi has arrived'

I am shemeless in my love for the dude

(ple

It's not the big colors I love but it's still one of my favorite recent art pieces

Now I have to plan to get Basil and Omori

I find the colors to be REALLY good in this?

I alwas want moe omori to look at

[ancient stratus]

kel is one of the cutest characters ever created

[lusty oracle]

WAHT IS THIS ANSD WHERE DO YOU GET THEM THATS SO ADORABLE

[compact peak]

The store is far away so I haven't been able to get the latest Kel & Basil yet. But I was able to get the last one.

[rigid token]

I had to order my own from a japanese person. Sadly they are not sold outside of japan so that was my only way to get one.

I want omori's one so badly

I could make one Long long commentary about kel's art specifically.

It is not just headspace. It's headspace AND real world combined

Hs kel. But instead of milk, we have orange joe that real kel loves, instead of hector we have the pet rock

It's like a strange, melding two worlds, piece

I'm sorry, I'm just incredibly passionate about art and THAT specific Kel piece is one of the few 'modern' pieces that speaks to me so deeply

[late mountain]

SO CUTE

[rigid token]

He is the cutest and the colors are so good for once

Purple and yellow really shine near each other and his smile- that's a smile to die for.

[plucky isle]

guys

when manga is going to be update

[marble smelt]

24th of each month

[plucky isle]

hmmmm

still have 12 day to wait

and also why does the story kinda different

[marble smelt]

its written in japanese and then translated back into english so some stuff is lost in translation

also a lot of the stuff that happens in game wouldnt fit very well in a non interactive format so they got rid of some of it

and the main person who makes the manga isnt omocat

omocat helps with it but she doesnt speak fluent japanese so she most likely doesnt write the script

[plucky isle]

wait i thought omocat was japanese

after all she was making some hikikomori webtoon

[marble smelt]

shes chinese-american

raised in the us

shes just a weeb but not actually japanese

she speaks some japanese but not to the level of fluency afaik

[plucky isle]

i kinda not expect that

but its alright i guess

[delicate orbit]

why is ts so tuff

[tulip skiff]

bro posing like he really strong to the girl that tanked a whole ass pillar falling into her completely unharmed 2 pages later

[grim temple]

💀

[plucky isle]

and they still censored the kissing scene

[delicate orbit]

its just a kiss bro💀

[grim temple]

They about to break up 5 minutes later after kissing like this

[wise badge]

why the fuck did they name him Buddy

also a reminder that just a few panels ago sweetheart was crushed under debris

her plot armor is stronger than omori's

[somber kraken]

Any idea when's the next chapter?

[marble smelt]

around the 24th of each month

[winter mantle]

buddy does exist in the game but he doesn’t have much of a role other than searching for pluto

[tulip skiff]

i just realized

plutos introduction is gonna be the pluto expanded fight isnt it

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-cat-meow-meowmeow-confused-gif-8057852975940592422

[wise badge]

aren't they just called Space Pirate or something like that

[winter mantle]

well yeah, but each of them has individual names like Space Pirate Dude, Space Pirate Buddy, Space Pirate Bro and so on

[pine lagoon]

That's if they even include him at this point

[tulip skiff]

there is no way

they HAVE TO

its like

the most recognizable headspace fight

either they will do it or omocat will force him to

[rustic solstice]

are there any more free chapters?

I read them all

[marble smelt]

7 total rn

new ones come out around the 24th of each month

[knotty shoal]

At least they gave an uncensored version of that kiss

On Nui's twitter specifically

[humble gazelle]

i thought the whole point of that fight is that its a character u fought before

like u know who he is way before that moment in the game

[tulip skiff]

Yeah thats part of why its recognizable!

[humble gazelle]

so does nui think they can just fast track that

poor pluto

nui would probably take away all his muscles anyway if they drew him

[lusty oracle]

I hope nui does the most detailed muscles on pluto and keeps his flex line in

And kel and Pluto training

[compact peak]

I still think Pluto will be omitted entirely.

[cinder totem]

[distant umbra]

[plucky isle]

why did they decided to publish the censored one though?

[knotty shoal]

[knotty shoal]

That or they just save him for the Jawsum Arc

[compact peak]

I think it's a recreation of a scene from the game.

[rigid token]

Poor, poor Pluto. One of the coolest side characters in game, it may not even be mentioned

We still love him!

[analog veldt]

Funny how they censor this in a horror game

[spiral willow]

I laughed my fckin ass off when I reached that panel

Its as classic as it was back then with the game

[wise badge]

OF COURSE it is

[acoustic marten]

Jawsum arc 🔥❗️❗️❗️❗️

[broken totem]

[broken totem]

Jawsum Arc will be fire

[harsh rover]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-jawsum-omori-gif-22376097

[plucky isle]

i guess that's fair

[plucky isle]

CAPITALISM 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[jovial yarrow]

Hey, visual developer and storytelling artist here. I respect a lot of your criticism and you’re voicing a valid subjective opinion, but I will comment on the objective stuff and some of my opinion if you don’t mind :)

I think you’re comparing two artworks that serve completely different purposes in different contexts, which isn’t really fair from a storytelling standpoint. Omocat still makes artwork packed with the ethereal, whimsical feeling that you point out in the examples provided regarding the old art style, while having the improved proportions, color harmony, brush work and shape language of their new style.

I personally just think that the issue here is with the example artwork choice, not the art style itself. Artists create a variety of artworks that all convey different emotions, and I’m sure that if omocat created the same type of artworks all the time it would be deemed repetitive and boring.

Sometimes the choice of bold color is made to reflect very specific emotions, and that is not always applicable in art, especially promotional artworks. Also in my opinion I disagree with what you said about the generic lines and whatnot, I find omocat’s use of texturing and thick-to-thin patterns fairly unique and fitting for omori and its story.

[winter mantle]

thats so oop 😭

[winter mantle]

I guess so. That's what Mari is for. (Don't make a sexist joke please) But well... we know what happened there.
So he never needed to learn how to cook.

[winter mantle]

Raw? Didn't he grab it out of the refrigerator not freezer?

[winter mantle]

If he ate pork or chicken he'd be more than sick. 😭

[winter mantle]

I see where you're coming from.
OMOCAT's old art style reminds me of Luke Pearson's style.

It's like a psuedo cartoonish serious realistic art style. It can't really be explained.

[rigid token]

From the picture it DID look cooked

you see grill marks so either he's hallucinating them OR the steak was cooked and just refrigetrated

[ancient robin]

hallo

Waiting on chapter 8 be like

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-26861291

also someone made a website now that just has all the chapters for free

so finding it outside k manga territory shouldn’t be too hard now lol

curious what thoughts ppl had on chapter 7

i was reading the old messages here too and I’m so sad the graphic novel she made about omori has become lost media😢😢😢

Afaik a low quality image that showed a collection of panels is pretty much the only evidence there is

I rly want to know what happened in the original

[still marlin]

Where can I buy read just witness the manga in general

[winter mantle]

pretty sure it's on webtoon (correct me if i'm wrong)

[compact peak]

...

[winter mantle]

?

did i get it wrong?

[marble smelt]

it’s on k manga if you’re in the us, japan, canada, australia, new zealand, singapore, philippines, thailand, vietnam, hong Kong, taiwan, india, mexico, or brazil

if you aren’t then you can’t legally read it unless you use a vpn (but it’s paywalled after the 3rd chapter and chances are they don’t accept your country’s credit card)