#omori-manga-๐
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our sunny boy
I want an Omori Juice with basil and spaceboy
Brush the casing off now
Our Sunny boy
Does somebody know where I can read chapter 5 without paying? I'm from Europe
college
dms
Okay
because
omocat hates europeans
She does
And the entire rest of the world that no one cares about
she inherited that from her great grandfather Emperor Hirohito

I love how that could literally be the case 
Quick, someone dig through OMOCAT's ancestral history
Could you send me the chapter? Or a link?
check dms i already did
Ahh!
Leave the ONE private aspect about omocat private
Please
Its the one thing she has left
Btw is Omocat wprking on something recently ?
Not really
i can't wait for omocat to be descended from war criminal Tomoyuki Yamashita
Prob some merch drop
We all know she came from OLDMOCAT
conquerer of south east asia
im hoping its omori 2 but she just changed sunny to a girl instead of taking 14 years to make a new and improved sequel
and she made a new shirt for female sunny that got taken down due to controversy
Shed rather kill herself than make omori 2 
Wtf
OMOCAT's gonna pull a JK rowling and retroactively make her characters straight
She would
She absolutely would

"Kel and Aubrey end up together."
"Sunny marries a girl he meets in the city."
"Basil doesn't get anything because he's my punching bag tehe~"
OMORI fandom moment
Except for Humphrey and Twitter
guys has anyone seen the illustration of nui konoito?
Ah yes, girl-boy-girl-boy-girl-boy
Kel teaches Spaceboy how to nuke Sweetheart
If this happens in the manga will it be peak
real
oop it just loaded
now that... was shit....
me living in a world where they never made the omori manga
A world whitout the omori manga would be a world whitout vast forests
i cant kms i need to see the end of the omanga
"I'm going to see the manga die before I do"
yes
The manga is already dead we are just seeing it decompose
I mean, we don't know how well it is doing
Even terrible Mangas can still go on forever
Look at Domestic Girlfriend and that one manga about selling GFE or whatever
its not going to be longer than 20 chapters
As long as it doesn't get cancelled prematurely then we won't know if it failed or not
Although, I will admit it would be extremely funny if that happened just to see how Nui would wrap the whole thing up
Nui makes Sunny and Aubrey kiss as a meteorite hits the earth
+t tdl
โAfter hearing the world is going to end in 10 days, Sunny wants to visit his old friends and ask for forgiveness so he can die fulfilled and forgiven. https://archiveofourown.org/works/46218919
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the
Organization for Transformative Works
I love him!
Mwah mwah
Look at you, little brother! You've grown so much!
Wait why are we dead?
The... the meteor...
basil doing weed is crazy
How dare you have an opinion
it's just not as bad as people make it seem for some reason
finally another manga enjoyer
this channel is manga hate rn
I know right
A lot of people hate the manga and this is why
- it's only readable in the US or Japan unless you're a pirate
- the manga changed absolutely everything, starting from the prologue to the current part of the story where we already see ghost Mari and the friends forgetting basil on 3 days left
- and a new reason was added recently is that the manga is now paywalled
I dont hate it but I don't like it either
i do get the paywall and region lock hate but i don't really mind the change in how stuff is structured
Also because itโs easy to make fun of the manga 
if it was the same as in-game i would just watch a play-through
Personally I do kinda like the remix in events
Some changes are nice
im not saying the manga is perfect and that everyone should love it
but it's not as bad as people make it seem like it is
outside the paywall and region lock
(it's not like, everyone pirates it anyways)
Most of the people
i would say a small portion actually paid for it
a lot of people ask here for the new chapter
Yeah I'm not buying the next chapter
me neither, im not paying it because region lock
Vpn
didn't work
either way, im looking out for the next chapter
ew

You forgot the art
Thats a common reason to
Personally I like the art at some panels
I surpricinly dont hate it because its clearly cuz nui dosnt have the time to actually MAKE IT
I think the art is good at times
It looks good when he has time to draw
Like that curtain scene was nice
(see: chapter 2)
I think monthly releases is a little tolling
He isnt bad at art he just isnt fast enough at it to pull 40 pages a month
I think that manga chapters should have a bigger time window for releases
And as such the art is rushed asf and it crumbles the moment you zoom in
Yeah
The manga chapters should just be shorter
If chapter 2 is anything to go by thats when nui works at his best
i disagree, i only hated chapter 1 because of how short it was
longer chapters felt much better
Chapter 1 is 48 pages lmfao
I hate it because I really think someone ought to bash a certain someone involved with it's head with a frying pan
its so fast paced that it feels like 10
it felt short, for some reason
Yes cuz the pacing is breakneck
i do feel the better improvement with the more chapters coming out
Chapter 2 is literally 20 pages shorter and it feels longer than chapter 1
This chapter was ok I'd say
it was decent
in my very own personal opinion, this chapter is my 2nd favorite so far
I still think they are trying to fit too much on too little but eh
I agree actually
i appreciate the new context we get even if
- it's only half-canon
- some of it sucks
i really do think that nui should have more time for making the chapters
But thats the ONLY real problem with it as a whole
it wouldn't look too much better if they did
it would be less rushed
could probably help avoid the insanely fast pace though
I am giving nui the benefit of the doubt on the forgetting basil being exagerated for the sake of a reveal
And they didnt outright forget him
1 month to make a new chapter feels too short
If thats the case the only issue is spirit mari
well yeah it's a volume closer it makes sense
The thing with throwing her this early is that like
Omori is structured in a VERY specific way
For specific reasons
And just shuffling shit arround fucks up a lot of that
Yeah, spirit mari felt a bit too rushed and sudden
If they go to the docks (they wont) it wont have ANYWHERE as much impact
As the courtain scene is supposed to be the reveal for spirit mari
Ignoring the fucking puddle on the floor for the mere attempt at keeping the same scenery
Thats horrendous
i think it would be a bit more passable if it was around day 2
Cuz it shows that they KNOW where it should be and dont give a fuck
You dont need a big emotional story moment every chapter to keep people hooked
You dont have ENOUGH big emotional story moments to do that either
spirit mari really feels like an endgame thing like we haven't really get a chance to process how everyone has changed because of mari's death yet
sure you do
oh and like we just had stranger last chapter too
stranger vs mari 1v1 who y'all got winning
i am a biased hypocrite
that's a ghost
how do you hit a ghost
Also the spaceboy fight literally happening offscreen then getting oneshot is so funny 
anyways i dont like the manga
i don't mind how stuff is structured in the manga but some events feel a bit forced
I woudnt mind the changes/skips if they were actual filler moments getting changed for the sake of not making people bored
Defo
The hide and seek thing was a good thing to skip in the context of the manga up to chapter 2
Cuz its story pourpose (being an introduction) had been both ruined whiplash wise and done by chapter 1
hide and seek fans are crying rn
(1 people)
they were based for skipping hide and seek
hooligans?
YOU GET IT MSKSKKSKSKSJJDJDJDJ
FUXKTINSNFBRJJDIAJAKJEJRI
im ignoring chapter 3 cuz you woudnt hear the end of it
maybe after junkyard?
We are already out of junkyard
WHY DID SWEETHTEAYRT THROW AWAY THE MIXTAPE
omori about to wake up it's over bro
And as far as its going sunny is gonna wake up at the start of chapter 6
Prologues arc is done
aren't this chapters events inside junkyard
FUCK
And absolutely no one cares 
because rosa sucks ass
delete your account
ok
annoying bitch
look idc how much she ruins the tone or the storyline or whatever she's funny that's all that matters
bro thinks she sweetheart with that laugh
i think a character can be as annoying as they want as long as they are funny sometimes!
when was she funny
in spirit
Thats SWEETHEARTS JOB

Anyways
rosa exists for like 3 minutes
Oh boy i sure hope we get idk
Kel in the fucking docks
Cuz nui already used up the courtain scene
last resort getting skipped ๐
guys what about that fuckass rat that ate the massive cheese tho
ems?
nobody complaining about that...
i mean
What about EVERY JUNKYARD THING EVER
she's a self insert so not surprising she isn't in the manga
otherworld is not otherworld
guys what about that scarecrow tho
Hes side content he was doomed anyways

idek if kim is a self insert because her name is split between 4 characters it could just be a naming easter egg thing
i wanted kel to throw him rocks for like an entire chapter
Ok ok
Aubrey:
fair enough
I mean like
you can't remove Aubrey come on now
and it's still omocat's story
Sunny:
sunny isn't explicitly a self insert though
some of his traits were inspired by other silent protagonists in games
Mariprobably:
everyone is a self insert when you think about it
why even make the manga
at this poitn just make your own xharacters ๐ญ
I think they should cancel it and jail the artist!
see that's where I'm one step ahead
maybe
i mean demo 4 story isn't really that strong it was just easy to write quickly
fuck it just don't adapt any story make the entire manga just cheesy one liners
now i am really good at writing those

rewritten is ABOUT the manga silly
chapter 2 isn't even out yet
they dropped 4 more manga chapters before they could update the mod once kenway is on fraud watch
idk what this means sorry
dude im fuxking stupid ๐ญ
omori already has blackjack though ๐ค
I can fully understand the hate towards the Omori manga and I fw it
But I deadass saw someone saying that itโs not canon???
Wth
the game itself forgot about that one
โYou asked me about tags, but didn't tell me what to do. Use +help tag
+t ietroll
it was a hamster you subatomic particle
sorry i didn't remember the most forgettable character in the game
it's half-canon
where it's official content technically in the official storyline but we have no confirmation of the new aspects being in the same storyline as the game
if anybody is looking for the latest manga chapter, i just got done setting up a cubari.moe page for all the chapters so far. my DM's are open incase anybody wants it
If we apply Pokemon logic Stranger wins
I like this panel
Me when Nui summons undead Mari two days early:
Hey Sunny Omori, it's me. An angel
If you're an angel, where are your wings?
Basil stole them

So I had to banish him to Black Space!
Omori manga waaaaaaa
i have a slight feeling that the next chapter may still be dream world content
also i kinda hope the manga skips humphrey
life would be better without that whale
this looks like an actual manga like made by a actual manga artist
because it has less detail?
no
it just looks like smth a actual manga artist would make
and bc its eaiser for nui not to fuck it up
it would also be painful to read an entire non-comedy manga that looks like that
isn't broken dreams the...
weird
one
+t omorimangabutbetter.
Peak
Why does bro want this
want what
_ _
what did bro say
"can you behead them"
exuse me
+t pursuitherodie
Does this count 
Peak banner
peak
Why does he look like he has only 2 teeth
why
omori manga omori manga....
DMs
thank you ๐
Ok I came to this manga open-minded, but I have to say that this chapter was ass
||Why did we get spirit Mari already||
yeah its headspace
Like cmon
all headspace chapters are ass
Well yeah ik they're supposed to be one-dimensional, that's the whole point, but surely they could've done something better here?
It once again goes breakneck
Chapter 2 is GOOD!!!!
Nah its not an old issue
The manga is just generally disliked 
But we are not the audience so not a lot we can do abt it 
I'm not giving up on it yet, but I think that I should lower my expectations some more
chapter 3 is better other than the lack of backgrounds and sunny passing out midrun
chapter 3 was forward writing wise but it went back in terms of art and being forced to do headspace context
Look
If chapter (10 at this pace) makes up with a lake scene that makes sense and an actual recognition of the hooligans
Ok.
Never
Also I donโt know how I feel about them doing Ghost Mari into the window this early
If the mistakes for lack of a better word of writing are made up or fixed later its acceptable
But right now
It just
Dosnt make sense
But sense was thrown out the window by throwing spirit mari in the middle of otherworld
Who cares
If feels like they just had random plot points and are just throwing them in random spots for shits and giggles
Also
Captain spaceboy what did they do to you my poor boy
Wait hold on
He has a similar face to Basil
Nvm Spaceboys face is slimmer
eyeliner
The puddle on the floor to excuse it not taking place on the docks:
dw i'll add an eyepatch to stoy's release
Mari said โam dead lolโ and fucked off
Also more then anyone I think Spaceboy needs some protein holy shit
I would think he would be a bit buff since he is a pirate but I guess not
how nui would draw buff people
The "i know i shoudnt have come" is nui being self aware
THIS ISN'T RIGHT! YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME FREE WILL TO MAKE MY OWN CHOICE! FOR THEM!
Free will... Poor pitiful Sunny. Killing Mari, hanging her... Is that what you've done with your free will, Dreamer? Don't you lecture me with your 30 dollar haircut! The truth dies with us!
this is how the manga ends
Cant wait for them to reveal the truth early
Guys I made Mari get the pizza
YOU WHAT?
Two days left
"We aren't the target audience"
then who the fuck is if they do that
there's one day for everyone to dump sunny in the lake and fake a suicide note
New japanese readers who have had a positive reception to the manga so far 
Hey Basil! Wanna go get some pizza? Sunny's there too!
No no no NO NO NO
so far
New readers wont really know how much the manga messes with the events of the game
@snow moss lets just cancel the project tbh
Are people positive about that
i want an omori anime in nui's style but with better proportions
Too bad! They will have the proportions of a Grey Alien
Lifts fingers
Alien noises
Alien growling
Ah, Spaceburn
lukewarm but that's because AA is actually popular
people who haven't played AA enjoy it tho
Exactly
so i suppose OMORI could get an anime
Someone who hasnt played omori wont hate the manga
look man i have the outsider's perspective so all i hear is bitching too
Can we have UFOMORI instead
Cuz they have no point of comparison
i don't think the proportions are that bad
they're skinny goku level
Now imagine if it gets worse 
DBS Skinny Goku (Left) and Z Goku (Right)
oh yeah an anime would have height inconsistencies
fuck
Finally, Kel can be taller than Hero
And Sunny can tower over both brothers
you know
S
U
N
N
N
N
N
N
Y
If it gets more people to play the game 
imagine people in japan preferring the manga
I love how the game dosnt know how to be a game and the manga dosnt know how to be omori
They cant get a break
i don't think the manga pacing is that bad tbh, ssj2 gohan's transformation was 2 pages
which was mostly reaction panels
meanwhile in the anime it was a whole minute and a half of him screaming
its all about the way mangas are paced in comparison to anime
for example, Goku vs Frieza is like, 4 hours and 13 minutes in the anime
but its a 5 minute read in the manga
neither of these are badly paced
the anime just adds filler
nui probably thinks most of headspace is filler
which means more memory lane!
Bro I've just been busy with stuff
Yeah that's fair
Watch them drop it halfway though sweetheartโs castle and it just exists there for the rest of the manga
The truth section Nuh
They will dedicate a entire chapter too Sunny and Basil throwing down
Sunny saying the line โYou have become the very thing you swore tho destroyโ and โitโs over Basil, I have the high groundโ then Basil being like
Then in the hospital Sunny will say โTogether we are omoriโ and we will have 2 pages of everyoneโs reactions and like fucking family guy one panel will just be Sunny saying โOh yeah I killed my sister LOL :)โ
real
when will we get the strongest tweaker of today (basil) vs the strongest tweaker in history (sunny)
whos pov is this?? Idk 
Hero
ngl not even surprised considering how obsessed he is with her in the game
like hes literally more obsessed with her than speed is with ronaldo
LMAO
but...imagine how hero would feel if kel died too considering hes the 2nd person that makes him happy
EW HD DUCK PEOPLE I HATE IT
Might just wait until it is
bro dosnt know 
I realized i had a link i could check right after i sent that
https://old.reddit.com/r/OMORI/comments/1gd8oxk/screw_omocat_man/
The subreddit is actually an Omocat glazer how did I not know
i am supriced you even expected them to care 
r/omori is like
some sort of #humphrey-๐ณ hivemind that is unwilling to talk seriously or be negative about anything at all ever
dude they assumed i was from the western hemisphere and therefore tried to invalidate my argument using that
another one said she owes me nothing
it costs her nothing she isn't already paying to sell the game internationally on the ps store
shes really just
missing out
because shes either too lazy to hire someone to localize the game (that guess what? she tried to do and didnt work for the physical spanish version)
or just too stupid to actually realize
i mean yea but like
wait
talking generally about worldwide
is that why they assumed im an "entitled westerner" (their words, not mine)
it cant be THAT hard to localize your fucking game when you def have the funds to do so
because i speak english well?

this is the worst counter i've ever seen because it assumes about where i live
and then this isn't a counter it's just an insult
it is totally possible that she literally just saw the spanish omori hate wave and decided to not deal with it she IS that stupid 
but yea no
omori is not getting localized or released anywhere
cuz omocat isnt willing to pay someone or spend her own time doing any of it
its legit clicking a button
to enable it in a region
the most accessible version of the game was literally the gamepass/xbox store one
oh right 
and the stupid shipping costs are probably not her fault either
undertale is one where the love of the game passes through the language barrier
the overpricing is her fault but not the shipping costs
But the manga will be published worlwide sooner or later, right?
lmfao no
๐ญ ๐
depends
she wont publish the game god forbid KODANSHA of all people decides to do a worldwide release
its up to omocat
no its possible if it's successful enough
the physical versions of manga are usually published worldwide for kodansha
I mean, the game is published worldwide?
yea, on steam
Exactly
i don't think she got any say in it ngl
being real
Wait, the developer of the game is just 1 girl?
why would omori manga of all things get popular enough for a worldwide release
no the company is just named after herself
cuz of course it is
the actual game team was about 10 people
but you dont hear about them!
Oh ok
We'll see
Btw are u italian?
Then why did you send a photo with italian text before haha
?
oh thats not my screenshot
yea i figured
which also means i am the person that might as well be the MOST fucked when it comes to getting omori merch 
thank god i dont give a fuck
Btw do you know why the new content on console hasn't been ported on Steam?
Me too haha
same reason as why there is version exclusive content in any game
getting people to buy it twise
omocat isnt exactly a stranger to doing that kind of shit
Yeah
she literally "randomly" put omori on 20% discount on steam when it was taken off the xbox store
and didnt even announce it
like
literally THE DAY it went off
it got a 20% discount
From what I've heard Omocat doesn't seem a company that gives a shit about her fanbase
insane fucking move
took you long enough
Chill, I've first learnt about Omori like 3 days ago
Idk anything about it
fair 
I've just finished the game
people tend to think too highly about omocat tbh
Also, why isn't there Steam Cloud support ๐๐
"shoot for the stars" and dev hell history and all that
reddit as per usual is routinely incorrect whilst still being as smugly confident as ever
shes a store owner that barerly fluked out ONE good game
shes a fucking store owner
ofc shes gonna know how to market literally air
Im more pissed about the racism
Assuming I'm a westerner because I speak English pisses me off
Hasn't she made just Omori?
yea
Yeah
That's the one "good" game
Wait is it even a game though
It's barely a visual novel
i dont think omocat has any malitious intent its just that marketting stuff and making people give her money is yknow
LITERALLY HER JOB
Why wouldn't it be
It resembles a lot Pokemon
everytime i revisit this image, the funnier it gets
apparently planning, creating, distributing, and translating a manga is less localization than re-releasing an already made game
Bro couldn't find a couple translators ๐๐
You know Omori console could've been objectively the best release
No because most of the world can't
what a good 95% of the playerbase wants to do
thats a different issue 
actually
its available worldwide in the nintendo switch store right
Most people own a PS4 because they 1. Bought it in 2014 and 2. It's multi-purpose
eh yea the focus of the console version was mostly the switch
just like the main focus of localization was the japanese version that they clearly put more care into OH YEA BABY it all loops back
that shit has fucking balance changes
the japanese version is probably an early console build
as the console battle sprites are actually there
in fact its how we knew an update of sorts was coming at all
the japanese version leaked it
the vertigo thing IS exclusive tho
Wdym
that got either reverted or not acknwowledged in the final build
in the japanese version the damage formula is atk x 3 rather than it being speed based
(speed x 3 iirc?)
aka it cant nuke
Oh so it's attack stat x 3?
yea
But isn't damage slightly randomized?
it being speed x 3 is fucking stupid
yea there is some other stuff going on
Does it mean it's broken or shit?
the actual full formula for a basic attack is
attack x 2 - enemy defence + other item/skill boosts x 1.5 if its on emotion advantage x 1.5 if it crits
with a 20% variance both ways
Oh cool
basically
Yeah I love the game itself but I fucking hate how it is being managed
it getting changed from speed to attack is a HUGE nerf
because speed can be gained way more easily
Yeah
you can have 999 (stat cap) speed pretty easily with any party member except hero
but you need really specific builds and setups to get over even 200 attack
Btw I've never gotten a single charm or weapen during the game, is it normal?
you just didnt check any watermelons
I checked a lot
then you didnt equip them
charms are just
equipable stat boosts
basically
if you didnt know the equip menu existed.
i dont blame you the game dosnt tell you about it iirc
Yeah I didn't know about it ๐ญ๐
It has just been mentioned once when Sunny used a stake knife against Aubrey
guess you are in SE Asia?
i suppose for omocat its just
Japan>>Korea>ML China>rest of Asia
Yeah
and yep i ranked Korea before my region
cuz at least i assume they didnt get somehow "paywalled" when they buy merch in her shop
thou maybe its just simply because we dont use international paying methods much
but hey at least we got official translation of the game
quality is always dropping ;-;
Racist ass motherfucker
omori
Almost read that as Sewaddle
Also sheesh I don't recall r/OMORI being this hostile
Except for when people started making headcanons back in January
This manga isnโt good dude
These are the same people that will kill you over shipping of course they wonโt let you badmouth their lord and savior Omocat
+t ietroll

this sucks
I forgot the chapter came out
Good
I don't get it
oh wait is sea south east asia
nvm
average omori fan:
If it makes you feel better, we nuked his ass from orbit
The shipping wars are bad 
Sunburn and Sunflower shippers are constantly at each otherโs throats
Yea thats how it usually goes
In like
Everywhere
Its not a r/omori issue 
yes it is Because I said so
Wait does it really not exist?
The european version they're talking about
I'm in Europe
it was a localization
Oh, not a big deal then
From what the tweet says, it looked like the game was not getting a physical copy at all
are you trying to get someone to give you the latest chapter? i can help out if needed
No thanks but thanks for the offer!
Helloooo :3, I recently saw that Omori's manga will be released in physical form and I have a small doubt, does anyone know if it will also be released in English or Spanish? because I think the announcement refers to the Japanese version 
i dont think they wouldโve even posted an announcement in english on the english twitter account if it wasnโt gonna be released to that audience
idk though
i believe it's going to be a japan-exclusive release. the only official english post i've seen about it is this one: https://x.com/OMORI_GAME/status/1847722109759606928, but it's just an english translation of what the tweet says.
other than that, there's no mention of a north american release anywhere, so i'd say it's safe to assume it will only be released in japanese
Here he is 
Okay so i read the five chapters
And I like them sooo, what's the matter ? Is Nui a problematic person ?
Especcially basil ๐
But omori has socks in the game
Why the change
the omori manga is so good they even made a game about it
Nah hes always had the thigh highs
I think omori is fine for most part but basil and mari i feel are uh
Its pretty apparent in them
Idk in some art it's below the knees
Game art I meant
It's a little inconsistent I guess
Point still stands though the thigh highs arent sus but the structure is for some characters
Ik but it just adds more evidence he's kinda a creep
Me when i sexualize clothing that was already in the game and is also a normal clothing piece /j (im kidding im just messing with you) agree with your creep part though theres other evidence of that lol
Separate art from the artist
Hopefully omocat will get another artist for official art or fo it herself once the manga is over
Sadly itll prob stay as nui
Honnestly the drawings are so cool, I thought it fit the game but-
Lmao
What's the matter with toes anyway 
Can't say I'm exactly paying attention to characters toes but that's funny
Well why would i draw aubrey with 6 toes or vice versa
Theres a number of panels where fingers or toes are fucked up
Also they whitewashed maverick
No but I understand, if Nui draw Omori to express his/her lolicon part, it isn't good vibe
Oh
Yeah
Honestly i think still reading the manga is fine bc theres people here that can give u links to free vers
It's just- I didn't figurate out sooo
Oh im in europe anyway so forced to get free ver
Fair
:3
Ur fine
wrong
lolicon is for girls
so if that was true
aubrey would be the weird one
but no nui drew little boys weirdly in their past
Why should gender make a difference
They're a nonce either way
idk its just terminology
anyways it does matter because its the thing omocat put on a sunny shirt
Wait huh
tl;dr: Nui and Omocat are both kinda freaky
its called shotacon
and apparently both omocat and nui are under this category
i just read chapter 4 and 5
||what a trainwreck lol||
like why ||they rushed ghost mari that makes me so annoyed||
she got lonely
right, actually
they've done both before they just have a preference for one
found a platform that can purchase the manga volume 1 in my region+that sunny/basil polaroid
and its like
๏ฟฅ60
the game itself is ๏ฟฅ70
i surely dunno if it is worth or not
its like 1 dollar cheaper than the game lol
and the only reason for me to purchase the volume is the polaroid
It will always annoy me to no end how they write Mari
"You can remember :)" bro just tell him
The story would immediately be over
I don't like imagining Mari as trying to get through to Sunny as a ghost for this reason because in terms of suspension of disbelief I can't get past this
And yeah I know she's risking Omori resetting but it's still just frustrating writing in a bad way
I mean, it's possible if Mari did just tell him, Sunny would secluse even further
It's literally why BS exist
It's frustrating to tease it like that so early
You talking about the game or manga?
Manga
The game is fine enough
There are small things throughout the game that make me prefer interpreting it as if HS and ghost Mari were figments of Sunny's imagination
To play devil's advocate, you can just make the argument Sunny and Basil should've called 911
Boom, no game
Eh that's a different argument
WAIT.. do some people think ghost mari is acctualy maris ghost ๐จ
Yea
i interpret it as her knowing straight saying "you pushed me down the stairs and i died" would just make him wallow in guilt more and she wants him to reach his own healthier conclusion
its left up to interpretation
exuse me
At least I thought so? I haven't been around in a few years
Well, it would've made things easier for everyone similar to spirit Mari saying
BTW, you killed me with stairs lol
it was always a theory but honestly if you read this new chapter it's probably canon
Canon to the manga anyways
Yea that's what I don't like
It basically confirms the version I don't like while highlighting the exact reasons I don't like it all in the same scene lol
I mean, there's some evidence to suggest spirit Mari is actually Mari's ghost (I.E: Hero hearing the piano along with Sunny)
yeah but like the game is very realisitic i dont think they would drop supernatrual there everything in the game can be explained by sunny seeing stuff
AH yeah
Very realistic
in any case it doesn't make sense for her to look as normal as she does since she looks the same as she did when sunny saw her hanged so i always assumed outside influence of some form
what part of it isnt realistic
I always interpreted that as Hero bullshitting him to save face and cry at the piano one more time while he was out of the room
sunny has an entire earthbound inspired indie rpg in his head
He pauses a lot too, something's on his mind
You know the realism in letting a 12 year old become a Hikikomori for 4 years while police analyzed the body of Mari and weren't sus at all of a potential murder
it's implied basil can specifically see sunny's something
And also them not calling 911
game's always been a little weird
if i was tramatized at 12 years old becuase i caused the murder i would be having fake stuff in my head aswell
Yes, but all the time?
Without being sent to a mental asylum?
we dont know if it lasted for the entire 4 years
have we ever seen him talk adout it
It's implied, especially in Hikiko route
nobody has entire story arcs in their dreams I'm sorry the hiding behind fantasy to cope is one thing the sheer level of headspace is another
okay let me correct myself
Well it's not supposed to be like, real
omori has nothing supernatrual so why would it acctualy be maris ghost
I can accept the other things. I just never subscribed to the supernatural stuff
because ghosts are cool as shit
i dont think a game like omori would use ghosts
It's an artistic depiction of depressed mind stuffs, not supposed to be taken literally
I am pretty sure there is some supernatural shit in it
Hell, Hellmari is inspired by traditional Japanese ghosts
Because the argument can also be made, didn't Mari ever try reaching Basil too then?
We don't know
Never will
something is not a supernatraul its a manifastion of sunny and basils trauama in there heads
doesent exactly make her a ghost
I did think the interpretation that it is Mari trying and failing miserably was pretty funny. Like she doesn't even know
wdym
Idk, you could make the argument Sunny was the only one she could reach maybe due to Headspace existing
basil's grandma ๐ ๐ ๐
regardless it's all speculation lmao
she dies at like the end of the game
the game's world was made based on vibes so there will never be an answer
i personnaly hate when MOSTLY realisitic media add supernatrual stuff
Mmh, on what merits exactly? We can only follow Sunny really
it is fiction at the end of the day but I can get the frustration
Maybe Sunny's headspace was so strong it could communicate with the dead idk
Plus, it's juicier angst if Sunny can never truly know for sure if Mari would forgive him
mari shouldn't imo
considering omori espessicly has brought alot of people comfort by being mostly realistic
She probably would but still. He can only tell himself she would
Yea tbh
see I'm on the opposite end there because I never understood how people could relate so much to the stuff that happens
I mean, beta Mari might've not forgiven Sunny considering she was meant to be an abusive pos
idk how either (i relate to it idk why)
Eh that's speculative
"If I fuck up this badly, I'll never recover"
IMO, it's supposed to bring comfort into ppl by saying that you can come back even from the shittiest mistakes
i can get the broader depression stuff but then you get to things like the somethings and the truth in general and i just don't see it
who relates to that part tf
i can ESPECIALLY get everyone save for sunny and basil they're pretty realistic
except maybe hero bro has to get over it ๐คฃ
I mean, I can kinda see where ppl can relate to it as in like "Oh, you think what you did is bad? Well, Sunny managed to "recover" after killing his sister"
Idk
To be honest y'all... I didn't care for headspace that much lol. I was invested in the real world segments
After the open ending I really didn't come out of this game with much other than a writing prompt
I don't think that's a hot take lol
But that's just me
nobody gives a fuck about headspace
im the exact opposite i did the hikiomori route on my first run blind
am i joke to you
we're both jokes it's okay
lmao
but yeah most people that play the game do not like headspace
i have 1 realworld space on 1 day left
the rest are hikiomori saves
i love the gameplay loop of headspace
i do like it for what it is, it's cheesy in all the right ways with some symbolism thrown into the later acts but i also recognize it's not used as well as it could be as a narrative device
also i like rpg gameplay in my rpg game (that's meant to be a psychological horror but whatever that's only in the last 2 hours)
thats the thing
faraway has no rpg
when i get an rpg game
i want an actual rpg game
faraway has rpg but it's intentionally stupid lol
"use pepper spray to one shot everyone" funniest mechanic ever
kid named Headspace:
peak mechanic
Kid named Hikikomori
thats why i like headspace more
holy shit he got bit by the reading comprehension devil
WE ARE ALL DOOMED
please help the bite wound is burning like a fire
hot take: the manga is amazing and super well written, the art style is beautiful and it's all paced really good
WRONG there is a whole party of them 
mari being a ghost is just cheap
there is no other way of it
because if shes a ghost and can just fucking spawn in sunnys dreams
she aint actually gone
spirit mari ingame is done right because its not clear if its sunny halucinating her or not
but like
girl actually went "it just gets lonely"
5 chapters in
you might as well have her stay arround the entire fucking manga it dosnt matter anymore
the courtain scene is late into the game for a REASON
yeah I'm gonna have to stop you at "the art style is beautiful"
the art style is beautiful if they have TIME TO FUCKING DRAW IT
other than yaoi proportions its FINE
no the fuck it isn't
it being a bad artstyle and it being poorly drawn are 2 different issues
(well not beautiful im exagerating there)
but it isnt a BAD artstyle on itself
THE YAOI PROPORTIONS AND SHITTY LINEWORK IS PART OF THE STYLE.
The good stuff like the horror and scene work is just good art the style itself is horrible
this is the one opinion I'll die on
eh anyways
the spirit mari reveal is the equivalent of kel and sunny realizing that the photos of mari are gone and then aubrey appearing and saying "oh no but i have them here im just not giving it to you FOOLS!!"
you have no time to actually let it sink in that mari is fucking GONE
its why there is a whole 10 hour or more gap between the reveal that mari is dead and the first aparition of spirit mari
shes left for the end for a reason
having it early is stupid
spirit mari in volume 1 is wild
which they could totally do btw
i could see them just having all the photos
bait used to be believeable
the game has all the snail pacing that you want but you CANNOT SAY that its poorly structured
so dont fucking ruin it 
hey im thinking about it now
what if they skipped the entirety of deep well
and that's why headspace is going like that
i can see them skipping humprey
slime girls are women i dont think nui is interested in acknowledging them
let alone omocat based on who they are an OC of
Do i wanna know
omocat dosnt like humprey in the first place
and all the forgetting thing is mostly done by humprey
which absolutely fucking LOVES to shove it in every 2 seconds
there is like 4 cutscenes in deeper well and humprey alone about them forgetting basil its WILD
the thing is that like
if they skip humprey they run out of headspace segments to cut off to
that would make absolutely no sense
Its the manga
but hey blackspace letters are replaced by the fucking TRUTH PHOTO OF MARI FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS FOR SOME REASON
so they can write that off
Also gotta love how Spirit Mari doesn't screw up headspace in any way
Even though I could see Omori resetting after that
Yeah, but Headspace was already fucked at that point
Here, Headspace is still "normal"
he didnt reset on stranger either
it's nui's world omori is just living in it
this is nuis headspace that was clear already
the love letter segment in chapter 5 didn't give it away?
anyways
they could write off humprey entierly
which would be fucking crazy to see
i dont think anybody would complain but idk
i hope they do
also
a tiny nitpick
that photo is from sunnys pov

truth photos are inconsistent iirc
TRUE why is it like that
in terms of pov
no they arent
there is ONE that is unclear
the rest are basil
oh neat
they could've done mari pov if they really needed that shot
it's said mari takes basil's camera sometimes
Why would she be holding it in that moment lol
they are gonna screw up the truth anyways
but if they cant even keep the pov of the photo to basil (the literal camera guy)
we are off to a bad start
literally just redraw the fucking photos
it aint that hard
it's not like they haven't done that already
alsoimightaswellpointout
the stranger scene and the spirit mari scene are about 30 pages apart
bro is getting fucking bombarded with truth reminders like holy shit
he cant catch a break
Sunny if he didnt repress:
mind that someone reading the entire volume once it came out would take like
about 10 minutes max to go from stranger to spirit mari
fucking sensory overload reading
pursuit reference probably
That's a relief
(Apologies for necro, am at work)






