#omori-manga-📖
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damn
like who the fuck spending money to read the OMORI MANGA
yeah, my guess is it will stop due to not getting funds
no shot they just stop it
omocat herself can fund it no problem i doubt income is an issue here
oh! nice
and its being made 90% by the mangaka anyways
kodansha is publishing it on their own website
so there really shoudnt be that many costs on it other than just
....paying nui
and if anything omocat would be paying the big money 
so yea sadly this shit wont get canceled
thats fortunate, but unfortunate that they may be having to pay out of their pocket for it
hahaha, wonder why they chose kmanga
wonder why kmanga let nui on there
cuz kodansha fucking sucks thats why
oh ye could be out of excitement and didnt even check the background of it

who is this nui person?
excitement was def one hell of a factor
manga author
ohh
and like legit everyone hates em
oh damn, how come
oh god
never let go of your innocene
yeah i dont wanna know any more of it lol
K: I want money
Also K: but NOT FROM MORE THAN HALF OF THE WORLD, YOUR MONEY ISn'T AS GOOD
Tbf, the region locking is likely due to licensing restrictions, not due to Kmanga not wanting money from the rest of the world
You want someone to blame, blame Japanese publishers
I blame everyone who got involved in the process
wait their making an official mnga
yeah theres already like 4 chapters
oh
something cool i just noticed
Aubrey's glare reminds Sunny of Mari
i wonder if they're using that abusive Mari hc
you wish
this might make the manga a -10/10 dead serious
guys, do you believe that sunny would get jailed or putted in mental hospital after telling the truth?
everyone are talking if sunny would be forgiven, but i wonder if he's gonna have legal problems or smth like that
Aubrey smashed in every cop's head beforehand 
They can't arrest Sunny if they've been put to a rest!
Aubrey did you just make a dad joke
Then the entire town explodes from Aubrey being OOC
How to piss off the OMORI fandom, number 14326495927:
Number 14326495926 is not releasing RW Mari Plushies because "she's dead"
I dont think so, closest would be juvinelle or however its spelt
But even then prob not bc he and basil were 12 when it happened
Surely they’re just doing a separate drop for that one in the future… surely…

its crazy that everyone is in mangastyle except Kel
Hes a whole different color
Look Omori! This wall is made out of wall!

that's
not even remotely the same thing
lmao
Hehe. Fat Omori.
I will push you down the stairs again.
Oh really? Go ahead. Push me down the stairs. Let's see you commit murder this time.

the most likely for a mental hospital is basil
well its not like confessing to their friends about what happened to mari means the police also has to know
SO
the police may already know to some degree
if a death is suspect, you get an autopsy. Meaning either the morgue was paid (sunny's dad? who left after bc of pain?) or someone else was paid on higher levels to hide it
theres no guarantee that they did an autopsy
the family has the right to refuse if theyre like religious or something
unless the police suspects foul play
wouldn't be surprising if the mother knew too since, you know, she never tried to seek therapy and that may be explained not by neclect but by fear that-
death bty blunt trauma and strangulation are WAY different to the eyes
Like, I can tell them apart just by seeing the bodies.
if you are an expert there are things that just... you don't miss. I can't believe professional investigators would just... miss stuff.
BUT perhaps this is too dark of a talk?
The truth relies on police not existing or not caring for it to work
Or being bribed
...lets ignore the manga namedropping police and jury
but yeah.
Basil is self-injuring and aggressive 8(on papers he DID attack sunny), sunny is... a mess
they both need therapy and I can't imagine the hospital dismissing either of them wihtout a proper psych evaluation
EVEN IF THE HOSPITAL IS SO NOT TO NORM
like, has omocat ever SEEN an hospital?
I have been but i have also seen plenty of houses that make you scream
but also
hospitals have a code
Why would omocat know the code for hospital buildings
the 'don't lock any door is kind of a basic
and we have, what? 18 locked doors on basil and sunny's floor alone?
AND they put a stabbing victim + his attacker on the same floor without any precaution
Where the fuck is the elevator
yet the only door that shouldve been locked wasnt
you can literally just walk to the rooftop without anyone noticing
it should have been alarmed at least
and there's no 'nurse area' which you'd expect
AND the balcony has a spot for jumping off
it's incredible
whoever built that hospital needs to go to jail
You are thinking too much about it
I work there, I also worked constructions, so it's like
'oh okay'
but i know it's an hyperfixiation of mine
Haha this was a big discussion back in 2021 too
Interesting to think how badly that investigation must have gone
INCREDIBLY BAD
like, they had the kind of attention level of people looking at zucchini and going 'oh, yes, this is a cucuber'
mind you there was blood and hair with the broken violin there were probably violin shards literally stabbing her
um no she's actually a human 👆 🤓
Just read the announcement about chapter4.
Does anyone know if this is an average Kmanga thing to paywall chapters after chapter3 across all mangas?
Something similar is on shueisha plus where only the 1st 3 and last 3 chapters are free to read
To be honest Omocat did NOT give a shit about the reality of the events beyond the playing going into shock over “oh no!!! Sunny was the one that killed Mari!! How could he!!!”
And guess what that worked to make her a millionare
+t suitroll
she said herself "feels before reals"
"Mari's dead"
No wonder why
hasn't shown up since Halloween 2021
is there any way to rewrite the hospital as more realistic /genq
you'd have to redo the floor, basically. add an elevator taking away two of the many doors, have sunny mention 'people seem asleep there ' or 'i don't want to bother' or something instead of 'locked' (which is against rules), have a mention of nurses being in one room maybe (there's a gathering where nurses exhvnage info between a shift and another, where if there's no necessity they're all there. would justify why personneel wasn't around)
not sure how to get around the lack of alarm for going on the roof, but there's that
the weirdest bit to work around is basil and sunny being on the same area without any kinf od control because assuming basil was also unconscious the whole time (SOMEHOW, main reason i assume he ether took damage or hurt himself. Sunny has been knocked out at least for one day there, possibly more.)
security would have no reason not to assume basil is a threat for sunny and possibly vice versa. and you don't trust a group of three teens to handle those things on their own
maybe just have a guard outside basil's room and give the impression sunny is actually insisting to be let in and the guard going 'well, the other kids are also there, but just for a minute mh?
and you'd have a vaguely more realisticsetting
i feel like the guard thing would ruin the feel
it wasnt her focus at all to make it realistic
it was just going for emotional impact
which well
like everything omori it does well
she had no excuse for an elevator tho
I'm not saying we need it to be realistic necessarily, just answeing a /genq on how it could be made more realistic
it'd be completely purposeless, it's a fictional story at the end of day
once in the hospital i worked in we had an elevator problem
it made things SO insane
2 extra doors for stairs AND elevators ofc
map as in
we don't even have 'stairs
only what's a roof exit
because the windows show the outside.... meaning there are no inside stairs whatsoever
I guess people are brought in their rooms through the roof by helicopter or something
so THATS why the fence is broken
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
its not broken thats where they leave the patients at
It's not an oyasumi ending... it's sunny tactically taking the intended route down
true
there is a gigantic pool at the bottom so people can just thrown themselves down
Bet kel has to carry both aubrey and hero on his back whenever they have to climb their way up
I mean, nets probably. water would be... as hard as rock at what's probably a body at its terminal velocity and all
also i love how they threw in the outside in the same map as the hospital even tho it would have been 10 times easier from a camera and general work perspective to make it a separate map
tho thats basically nitpicking
no no valid
I will be honest, i'm trying to udnderstand how to mod omori and mapping is my biggest issue. I feel like nothing has sense
mapping as in tiled in general?
to be honest mapping is the one thing im half decent on
and even that is arguable
omori modding sucks
they really could have used a camera lock plugin
like REALLY could have used one
to just have the camera like
... tiled + binding events to the map.
I'm half tempted to just work on assets until january when i have more income and hire someone to hold my hands and make a map with me explaining it to me like i'm a five years old.
not move arround like crazy on interiors
the map itself is handled trough tiled and the events are handled on rpgmaker
yeah huh- I get that but I don't get how to map events correctly when I cannot see the map below
there is an easy fix for that
so yeah, I am slowly descending into madness
I tried the 150% parallax thing and I failed apparently
save the map as an image, upscale it by either 150% or 200% (just try til it works)
it usually works for me at 200%
i think it depends on how big the map is
or i am just stupid idk
+t noyasumi
TRUE
(he would just jump over the railing)
i dont think that has ever stopped anyone
He would trip on it
he IS that stupid
He's short and he didn't walk for 4 years, his muscles are probably jeklly
(athropy starts settling around 2-3 weeks of inactivity. I have no idea how he did those runs)
Lemme end myself in the most stylish way possible
Trips over the railing
NOT LIKE THIS!
anyways uhhhh
just try upscaling to different percents til it just works
its kinda wonky sometimes
specially if your map isnt a square
it really just fucking dies at 150% if your map is 30 x 60 or some shit
at least from my experience
maybe im just doing it fucking wrong 
it's almost 2am right now so i'm not trying now and no, it' was small and hero's room only since i was testing to understand how it worked. suepr super small
I wonder WHAT ending the manga will pick
why
would they pick another ending
why do people think that they will go the dark route
thats not how this works
thats def not how omocat wants it to work

I don't think Omocat wanted Sunburn either
i dont think omocat cares about ships
she made the fucking swingset
you cant tell her anything
people are expecting too much by saying "oh she will actually do a different route! it would be so unique and quirky and suicides"
the manga dosnt have replays
they cant do multiple routes
she will stick by and choose the one canon route whitout most of the side content
Laupig. my expectations for the manga are below sea level.
because its what she (and nui) think is the best way of adapting the game
I'm ust curious to see how the ending will be handled
poorly
totally
Make Kel sing it
as they have been shoving in flashbacks since the actual start
sing WHAT
with WHAT AUDIO
Kel is kel, kel COULD
are we gonna have one of those childreens books buttons that plays audio when you press it
(that would be fucking peak)
now i expect omori and sunny's final moment to be a tekken 3 kind of battle
i have SOME hope for the truth being handled well
they just gotta redraw the pictures in manga style
in the horror setting that nui clearly works best in
you cant fuck that up come on
Eeeee eeeee EEEEEEEEE
I should've pushed Kel down the stairs instead
the fear of heights was handled in three pages
I'm sure other important moments will be given equal importance
but fear of heights is not ✨story content✨ who the fuck cares
lets give the church literally 1/3rd of the entire chapter even tho we are gonna make it as nonsensical as fucking possible
(after wasting time with miss candice of all characters)
🧑🏻🎨 Knock knock
Not this again
i feel like we are not even gonna enter othermart
they are NOT gonna bother
its not like orange oasis will be shown here
so there is no reason to show the bakery
so the buying food part of two days left will be skipped and just cut to the chase
have polly run in when they are on kels house or some shit
they just enter outright
(with sally being skipped over cuz PLEASE)
PLEASE SAVE THE KID
Kel buys food before visiting Sunny
DO NOT ADD HER IN
but the map even shows EXTRA CONTENT
It also shows lost pier
Which is an unused icon for a story area
(nui just traced "map_placeholder.png")
oh?
is that the thing in the bottom left?
i feel stupid but i can't recognize this
it's in front of the third..... huh
highwas 'barricade'. it's 2am, words hard
like, that should be the place where you go and 'seek' humprey, but I am checking the maps again and I can't remember any screaming angry cat
what the aigma
👍
turns out Faraway's local police are just as wacky as their hospital
"My friends... My family... They're all counting on me to defeat you!"
lmaooooo
+t mangapredictions
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the
Organization for Transformative Works
Who
10 days left until Space boyfriend
Space britshman
AUUUUUTUH 
Yoo guys when’s the new chapter?
Look up a bit
Most likely next week if following recent trends
yeah
Does anyone have the homeless spaceboy panel? I wanna color it
LMAO
yeah
@snow moss whens the eta for the google doc? Also I think for the website we could whip up a small google site but y'all would need to do it since a. I'm already doing typesetting, page editing and colouring and b. I have family link and my mom doesn't like Omori
Also i think OMORI: Redux has a nicer ring to it
Aight and wdym by eta
Also "my mom doesn't like omori" is the most real shit I've ever hearef
estimated time of arrival
man
i got murder on my mind
HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
DUMBASS
THE SFX ISN'T THERE
IT'S A NEW TL
NEW TYPESET
Well, did you use the KManga version or a scanlation?
Because tbf, it's possible they would know due to compression, resolution, etc...
So.... then there are differences
And it's possible they'll still know due to resolution, compression, contrast...
Contrast on a coloured release is crazy
Still, they can still find ways to figure it out
I might just not release Omori Chapter 1 on Kmanga
Yeah mb
You work at Nintendo Kmanga? /s
Okay so i finished all of the chapters that are out rn and i have some icks with it
-The pacing is all over the place
-The way Headspace and Faraway are separated is odd, I get that they don’t want to focus on one side for too long but cutting from the morning to things that happen the night before feels weird
-The surprising lack of NPCs in Headspace, I’m pretty sure the only ones we’ve seen are Boss and Space Boyfriend
-HOW DO THE HEADSPACE KIDS SEE SOMETHING
thats all, besides those the manga is cool
I think the amount of NPCs we've skipped over in headspace is the point that hurts most here
plays hand in hand with the pacing issues obviously
i still have a shiver of hope that maybe it ends up feeling more coherent when more chapters are out but I guess we'll have to wait and see 🤞
we said the same after chapter 1
i think we are just fucked
adding something to the whole headspace npcs thing
the enemies in headspace look insignificant as fuck
True lol
they are actual rock sized you cant tell me they are an actual threat to anyone ever
I've been going from optimistic -> neutral -> 'shiver of hope'
actually fucking kick them
i was a bit surprised they made the space bunnies so small. I guess there's just a lot of them?
did you see the chapter 2 sprout mole
it looked a bit like fighting a rodent or something though
no you didnt
hes the size of aubreys fucking toe
they might as well be random fucking bugs
actual ant sprout mole
wait wheres that one picture of the sprout mole from chapter 3 i think
yeas
its chapter 2
where even is it wasnt it just boss attacking them in chapter 2
that thing does not have 42 hp
Vegetable
they dont even fight them (thank god that would have been PATHETIC) but still
haha okay now im imagining all the omori combat gameplay taking place against something that size
yea its so dumb
aubrey fucking steps on the sprout mole
hardest part of that fight would be hitting it
literally wrote themselves out of sir maximus ever appearing
aww thats a shame i love the maximuses
or like
maybe they'll be bigger someohw
Does that mean everyone during the Sweetheart’s Castle segment is going to be tiny?
....wait how the fuck are we doing sweethearts castle
i wonder if we're getting sprout mole colony
they are not gonna size up the sprout moles for sweethearts castle alone right
they arent THAT stupid right
average size of a gator guy in the manga
hopefully
its just moles and bunnies
or most likely we wont even get any
i dont think even a real life bunny is that small
mr. jawsum just gonna show up on the side of the road
like
just fucking
grab them and throw them
omori literally just stabbed them ONCE and they fucking died
....but he did the same to boss so who knows
maybe he just has plot armor oneshot damage
S P A CE BU N N I ES I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
also are you telling me space bunnies are the enemies that deserved to be there
wormhole is cool as shit im sorry
thats such a funny line to me
true villain of otherworld is the space bunnies everyone else pack it up
eh idk
if they somehow fuck up the fight on chapter 5 its actually just gonna be over
literally the like
ONE THING they have not done yet
is a proper fight
theyre gonna fuck it up so bad
having actual health bars show up is not exactly a good sign
but who knows
maybe they DO SOMETHING
cant even say 'its only been 1/2/3 chapters' anymore
that has always been copium
people being like "give it the benefit of the doubt" when every single page in chapter 1 was a red flag

i want it to be good dont get me wrong
i wish we got like actual fucking good omori content every once in a while
specially for an adaptation considering how much of the fandom dosnt yknow
like the game
"oooh but im not into rpgs so idk if omori would be for me" welp you have a nice manga adaptation of it you can read!
but no you have
not omori
omori is not really an easy game to adapt because it relies on it being long for most of the emotional impact due to character attachment
which is the one thing that keeps the whole story together and you CANNOT fuck it up cuz otherwise it just burns and dies
yeah
but then you have mangas
which can in fact
not be long!
and you need to adapt a 40 hour game into seemingly interesting monthly chapters
and you realize you fucking cant!
because this game is not meant to be a fucking manga!
so you change the story arround to try to make it more interesting to new readers
but oh no! omoris story is structured in such a way for a reason
and you just FUCK EVERYTHING UP
which is like
fucking hilarious on its own
cuz you cannot tell me that a properly handled direct retelling of omori woudnt be interesting to a reader regardless
you already skipped hide and seek you are halfway there to removing the "the start of the game is a slog" issue
yeah
no download window btw

could you imagine a download window fight where the manga panels change to look like PC windows with like the top bar and everything
THAT WOULD BE SO COOL ACTUALLY WHAT-
...fucking health bars
why is this a thing
why do you need to cover the screen with fucking health bars
spacehobo 😦
literally no introduction for him im still so pissed about that
'new readers' WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA KNOW WHO THIS GUY IS
health bars in a manga is ass I can't sugarcoat it
like
the damage numbers are fine
i dont mind damage numbers
you can show the impact of a hit by having a big fucking number its fine
the damage numbers were a cute touch but this just feels like "tell don't show" to the highest degree
but you dont need a fucking health bar
so sad
spacehobo is just not wanting to bother on doing any town design whatsoever
its an excuse to skip over otherworld town
or the bird guys
the feoefapopsaklfdj;skjadfpoijsapofjspaofijapskdfj;asldkfj;asd.
"look the friends have less health than spaceboy" NO SHIT WE JUST SAW THEM FIGHTING IT'S NOT A GAME THERE'S NO RANDOM ENCOUNTERS WE CAN SEE THEY FIGHT
😦
and you damm well know that the size of that dumpster is NOT going to be used in any interesting way in the fight
you're gonna have to take that back when kel throws
photo of someone familiar
at spaceboy for the kill
lmao
i would actually vomit
people dont even care about the manga anymore its so funny
its just completely died out
i remember reading it the first time in school i was fucking shaking
i always knew it would suck 🥱
i remember telling a few friends of mine about nui back in december and they said they still wanted to read and enjoy the omori manga regardless
all of them have went back on their word after chapter 1's release lol
lmao
i was expecting a direct retelling
its amazing how omocat always manages to go 6 kilometers below expectations
i don't mind a new direction but i was assuming a bar for bar retelling with some new details yeah
the story being different isn't inherently bad it's just the current format is ass
half of the manga just
yeah
30 hours of gameplay and they have to condense chunks into each chapter
creates plot holes to fix them next chapter
for the sake of having it be different
(hello aubrey throwing the photo album before church)
it isnt even the changes being stupid
they arent even changes
they are just random fucking writing obstacles added for no reason
NOTHING HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED SO FAR
they just know less people
the reader knows less people
they didnt visit some areas
the closest thing to a change was the church scene
you know it's funny
they're not shy to literally adapt battle mechanics to the manga but aubrey church fight was too much i suppose
actually ima just put it in a simpler way
the manga dosnt matter 
i do prefer the fight over what we get in the manga
it felt like a breaking point for Aubrey in my eyes, lashing out in a place where she found comfort and peace for the past few years really shows how she changed for the worse
and of course we get a little bit of that in the manga too but it also comes with that weird sunny panel with the ears thing
it meant 75%
the funniest part about the church scene aint even the church its just it recontextualizing sunny and slightly fucking up the lake scene 
i have not read the manga yet and from the feedback i have seen, i won’t be reading it
good
yea you aint missing much
its a harmless experience it just really dosnt matter
i have been harmed/j
yea i already played the game which i enjoyed there’s no point
maybe they could've done something with the sunny ears thing and alluded to how he uses repression and denial to cope with the death of mari but it's clear they were going more for "sad emotional climax" there
i mean yea if you actually care its the entire torture chamber
they were going for "we need to make sunny REEDEMABLE"
this sounds weird because I haven’t read it 😭
FUCK character interpretation
me personally i need to surround myself with mid to cope with my problems
fuck having to even consider the main character even potentially not being forgiven
have him be a nice person all trough the manga
cuz he CLEARLY helped aubrey in the base game
guess they forgot about the ending 😭
sunny fucking BEATS HER UP in the church
they forgor 
(well yea you can lose the fight but thats still WAY different)
other notable mentions, Sunny pepper sprays Aubrey
i really liked that panel where he tried to rip her ears off (⌒_⌒;)
did they forget about the plot of the game?
only half canon
you can lose all faraway fights with no consequence
yeah
having aubrey become sad after some of the church gossip dialogue would have gone extremely fucking hard
i dont blame nui on having her break down after that
its just the sunny thing
this happens in the game anyways?
i think?
no i mean like
having her become sad in the battle itself
(talking about the game)
you mean like the emotion mechanics?
yea
that would make me laugh ngl
its not like emotions dont exist in real world
tho to be fair
acknowledging emotions in faraway is acknowledging the aubrey happy sprite
some things are better left forgotten
the dont i was the 2nd layer of earth
god looking at those images, the health bar on the characters really takes you out of the experience 😭😭
it hurts to look at help me
utjfejdjjejddjfjjrwj
thats like
not even bad for manga standars
chapter 4 is overall the second best chapter
(the best chapter being chapter 2)
which is basically the only chapter so far that has like
no real major issues
and its a chapter that is 20 pages shorter than the rest
chapter 4 is only not good because we know they're gonna skip otherworld town stuff because of it
and yes i think 3 is worse than 1
What’s in 3 that makes it bad
chapter 1 and 3 are just pure ass though lmao so you're right
I’m curious
simply because i think that the miss candice scene is slightly more baffling
than the ENTIERTY of chapter 1s bullshit
they adapt up to after aubrey church scene and the hooligans get
um
2 panels
also whitewashed maverick
oh
also they ruined my beloved Miss Candice
😭
the miss candice shit is fucking WILD bro
you gotta TRY to write off an area like that
omg wtf did they do 😭
actually
I'm glad she exists? i guess? but nui character design is worse than
Ok
ok wait maybe i shouldn't say that.
The eyes especially
Nui cannot draw eyes right
Especially in closeups they loks super off
man
Colored the homeless spaceboy panel
Also I had no idea if he had literally no health at all or was at full health
fire
YEAH
i think its full health
Awesome! 🤩
this is nice :)
Guys, that scream in the fight, isn’t that how MARI yelled when she fell?
Most likely the argument they had before Mari got the pizza
I. wanted. pepperoni.
Nuh-uh! You need to eat your vegetables so I ordered a vegan pizza!
If you like vegan pizza so much... maybe you can GET ONE YOURSELF!
📶 
👮♂️So you’re telling me this girl ordered a vegan pizza and just hung herself before it even arrived? Damn, delivery time must’ve been too long for her
See if the game was like that maybe sunny wouldnt be so truamatized
anyways i havent read the new chapters is it any good?
Final Duet would be the pizza delivery theme from Spider Man 2
and then sunny dances in the hallways of the hospital with stranger
and then basil is like "damn i wanna do a minecraft lets play with him again someday"
like persona 5?
animated series to be exact
But i would be happy to see an Omori movie
fully animated like the boy and the heron type
but with the same style as the game but mostly the feel of it
but yeah i get your point
they dont usually work often and its rare when its good
yeah i tought the same thing
yeah sadly
i mean i wouldnt mind an omori anime
like yeah sunny doesnt talk alot but for reasons
anywho a good game is a good game, and a good game nontheless
yeah
maybe Basil's
because most people dont like him and the manga could change how we see him too
his own somethings and his own headspace
both have the same traumatic struggles and maybe that could work
i like the idea of it tought
yeah but we have to move on
thats what the game wouldve wanted
:<
still we should cherish it
same
but im guessing theyre still friends
best friends :3
yeah especially Hero
because they all deserve
A Happy ending with each other
That is what Mari wouldve wanted
in conclusion, Omori peak frfr
Okay since everyone voted "Yeah, no" I'm not gonna do it
wait are there really that much people who don't like him?
I mean
The only reason why people like him despite his actions is because he looks like a girl is cute
lolz same to me at first
Otherwise he isn't very appealing as a character
He tampered with the crime scene and stabbed his best friend's eye out
i think i started playing this game because my friend's one Basil fan
Also because some people actually see him as their child and get overly aggressive towards any negative opinion
aint thats same to sunny
thou if that's the case i dont think sunny or aubrey will be appealing either
At least for Sunny, most of the fandom seems to agree that he didn't make Mari get the pizza on purpose
It was just an accident
So the fandom gives him a pass
then what about vandalizing the photo album
Traumatic self-defense mechanism
Mari's face reminds him of the pizza
Which is the very thing he tries to run away from
this can't be an excuse for vandalizing other's stuff thou
The photo album belongs to his partner in crime
Basil definitely would not have minded that when he already hid the uglier truth
basil obviously wont,but someone do
That would be post-ending territory
but the whole thing was done before the ending,and it did caused an impact
therefore it still can't be an excuse to ruduce sunny's arguability
and for the pizza incident
whether it is on purpose on not doesnt matter that he actually killed a 15 years old girl
just like that stab in the eye
he
did it in marker
you know how easy it is to wipe off marker
yeah after the 15 year old girl refused to deescalate the situation
in the omori fight, there's audio that goes
"Where do you think you're going?"
from Mari
which basically implies
Sunny was trying to leave
so the situation would deescalate
but Mari refused to let him
do you also not realising how threatening it is for a 12 year old for their older sibling to be that mad and screaming at them
but if you look closely
the album still got traces of markers on it
i suppose someone still had a hard time dealing with them
i mean when SOMEONE lets marker stay on for a few months its pretty hard to wipe it off
its pretty evident sunny was using alcohol markers
if basil cared so much about it
he would've wiped it off using wet wipes
or used whiteboard marker to get it to fade off
let s see the traces are still here
actually i can give you a link for that
https://x.com/ye_yili/status/1845810489466724761?t=cQsteLOXkIk-fT4jWthrsQ&s=19
i mean when SOMEONE lets marker stay on for a few months its pretty hard to wipe it off
Basil let the marker stains stay for what?
at least a month?
maybe a few years even?
its pretty easy to explain
there is a chance that among these kids only aubrey knew how to clean that
Aubrey, the one who's most likely to be broke even pre-incident?
you sure about that?
and maybe thats the reason why bagel hide it until aubrey spotted that
also fits his nature
look, basil let the marker seep into the photographs for god knows how long
he could've wiped it off
he could've used hand sanitizer
but no
he left it in and it caused more damage than had to be caused
also you can't necessarily blame drawing on the photos on Sunny
bro was literally dissoscia
disasso
hallucinating
he was out of it
idk how much control he had
then i cant blame basil for hallucinating sunny as something and stab his eye
and it looks like some guys actually blamed him for that
that's crazy
there's other stuff you can blame him for
like not calling an ambulance
or the photo album
mari got pizza'ed when sunny dragged em on the bed i suppose
hanging the body however is surely blameable
speaking of that
i dont think sunny knows how to move a severely injured person correctly
And now for another popular debate
Was Mari dead when she got the pizza
no shit, but again, he was like out of it
im sure basil was too slightly, but calling the ambulance should've been way more obvious to him
for the debate of pizza that wont change the outcome too much, unless she actually died because of the hanging which is centainly not true
she can die from the fall but still survive if an ambulance arrives
and im sure that mari s pizza'ed before basil arrived
it just means she died in bed
and in this case it's sunny who should be responsible for calling an ambulance
he was legit in shock
you can remain in shock for up to 2 weeks
although
both he and basil could just simply
leave mari there
Basil would be too, but he only saw Mari's corpse, not be the one to kill her
he would have the sense to call an ambulance
that s why hanging her up is not a good way dealing with that situation
Remember, boys! People die when they are killed!

@native spruce
let's not remember that Basil being there enabled Sunny to carry her into bed, even if it was his idea
okay? Basil doesn't know that
hell we don't even know WHEN she died
it could've been when they brought her to bed
i just checked the photos on wiki
and it seems like basil cames
after sunny pulled her on the bed.and sunny is the only person who did that
and therefore calling an ambulance for a dead guy
wouldnt that be a little bit of redundant
That's wrong because there's a photo of Mari on the ground
Basil doesn't know she's dead yet
which photo can prove basil s in before mari got pizza'ed
or which scene in the game can prove your claim
at least in the photos i only see basil after Photo of Hope
in the abandoned descriptions its Photo of Support
I know its an imaginary photo, but it still proves my point that Sunny thought/knew Basil was there at least upon Mari hitting the ground
i dont think it proves your point
especially i cant even see a single basil in this photo
unless you point it out
Basil isn't even in the photos he takes himself
He's the photographer
The cameraman represents hin
I'm very close to believing you haven't played the game or watched a playthrough
the why basil s in the photos after Photo of Hope
It's glass
It's
Reflective
in my opinion it's just simply a kind of expression
i never thinked that deep on that part like you
Its not even that deep???
Basil's motif is that he takes photographs
He's barely in any album photos unless it's explicitly stated someone else took the photo
The whole truth sequence is from Basil's pov
You see his hands
that door towards the treehouse is made of glass of course it will be glass
Its quite obvious that the cameraman in the truth sequence is Basil
Yeah that's why you can see Basil
Its not because the cameraman is someone else, its literally just his reflection
you dont mean by basil took those photos do you
I literally stated this already
The photos are imaginary, yes
But they represent Basil's pov
and even if your claims are true
basil is an emotionally fragile kid in the group
and when mari s already's like pizza'ed on the floor
i doubt he will actually have the sense of calling medical support
i think he could actually thought mari's dead on that moment
especially checking a person's pizza'ed or not is frankly
"not hard"
i'd argue pre-incident aubrey is actually more fragile
anyways
yes, he could've thought Mari was dead
but even then
people call ambulances for people who are already dead
it isn't redundant, because the staff on ambulances do actually have medical experience to know if someone's 100% dead
and also have the tools to resusitate someone whose heart has stopped
this happened with my grandpa
yeah, he was already dead
but the fact was, there was at least a chance of resusitating him
its always best to call an ambulance even if you think they're dead
hm actually i thoughtif basil knows mari is dead because of sunny then that means your claim is right
and therefore the reason why they dont call an ambulance could be
he doesnt want anyone to know that
that's with your claim of redundancy
say she fell down the stairs
if you're gonna lie, at least make it a believable on with minimal setup
its def basils pov yes
whitout counting the literal reflection of the door
the bed photo is also pretty clearly not from sunnys pov
yep i just focused too much on"it s just omocat s kind of way to express the truth" and ignored that fact
it only takes a few seconds to notice that most photos are taken from where basil would be standing
ignoring the one of them carrying mari up the stairs
that one is just bullshit however you look at it you dont take a photo like that
along with the multiple ones with his hands showing
they're not meant to be literal photos i think, moreso multiple frames from his point of view
ignoring peak omocat on forgetting about how basil even fucking got there
assuming he wasnt with them on the practice session and they actually just started arguing knowing damm well basil was there
which woudnt be out of the question, nothing disproves it but lmao
i could totally see him just standing in shock and only going to check when he hears the violin
so yep actually i think basil could've simply stop their quarrels but he's just too scaredy
he was asking for a cup of salt
the funny answer is the door was unlocked and he just fucking entered
BUT heres the thing
the second photo seems to be him peeking from the door to the stair room
which i am pretty sure makes like
no sense
cuz if you were to go out to check you would realistically not walk all the way to the fucking front of the room and peek on the door
from that angle he would have had to ran out from the fucking backyard
because thats the only door that lines up
✨omocat logic✨
lets just assume he was peeking from the living room door
the living room
is not close to the piano room
at all
he would be better off looking from the corner of the fucking room
unless you wanted to tell me he went to the fucking kitchen to grab something right before they started arguing
him peeking from the door makes no fucking sense
he was asking for a cup of salt
AND
AND we are ignoring that the descriptions talk from sunnys point of view
so yea this thing is just
fucking confusing
again you arent meant to think about it you are meant to cry
yep it definitly is
i think i havent played the vanilla game like a couple of month
and this part s surely confusing whenever you mentioned this
its confusing enough if you have it fresh on memory
in fact its probably MORE confusing that way cuz you cant just fill holes in your head as you actually remember the entire thing
but yea whoever actually thinks basil TOOK the photos is delusional 
Does he drink it to make more tears
to make mari fans more tears
i said its meant to be from his pov
yep now we knew that
...hold the fuck on
scratches
you are telling me she only got scratches from that
also this basically confirms she fell headfirst
from a staircase
she's goku
thats at the very least a fucking nosebleed come on
sweep the bits of woods
only scratches
photo of silence does say that she "crashed into your violin"
and probably confirmed she s dead when getting pizza'ed
over what
when did she got pizza'ed to death?
over her falling on the violin or not
aint that be obvious
these are the same people that think she died on the hanging 
lolz
muscle spasms then
Realistically, it's prob Sunny's hallucination
Stiff and rigid
Why was she closing and opening her eyes a lot?
It literally says it's for muscles used a lot
no he means maybe she died with her eyes open
I'm pretty sure most ppl headcannon it's just Sunny's hallucinations
Then why were her eyes closed?
Or why did Sunny not see both eyes?
No eyes
No eyes
One
hair is covering
eyes don't glow, that photo is backlit and from afar
its upclose
Then how could Sunny have seen it then?
huh
its upclose so the eye is visible
idk what you don't get
for all we know her eye's visible with how little pixels there are
we should talk more about why sunny is smiling
Ok then new question, why did Sunny not notice it when he put Mari on the bed and furiously checking to make sure she's alive?
That was already solved; it's a crazed smile
He was hoping she would wake up
idfk im not omocat
what if omori was poorly planned out
Okay Nui
Wouldn't an eye that is clearly open and not moving kinda make that impossible?
Ig you could make the argument Sunny was crazed, but wouldn't Basil know?
I don't remember seeing anything about her eyes being open until the hanging
Exactly
Which is why ppl believe it's Sunny hallucinating
Not some muscle relaxation or spasm or smth
i think omori is just badly planned out
That's nothing new. We knew that already due to the development hell it went through and the fact the plot changed multiple times
and people give the manga flack
anyways
Ask @tulip skiff
omori could literally have mari and sunny's parents be divorced and her dad claiming sole custody barely anything outside the truth sequence would change
I mean...
Sunny being a shut in for 4 years wouldn't happen then
Unless Sunny really loved his parents, which rhe game doesn't say if he does
he loses his sister and the friend group falls apart
plus going through a divorce process
its very stressing
And how would just the divorse happening not change that?
im saying her dad claims sole custody of her
like
sunny stays with his mom
family gets ripped apart
then mari and her dad move out
essentially within a few months
Sunny's life becomes completely different
But then Sunny's whole grief is gone
And now it just becomes a game about abusive relationships
i mean its still a substantial loss that can explain headspace and stuff
Yes, but Headspace would be completely different
Since it wouldn't be Sunny's fault it happened
Unless their family told him it was for some reason, but again different scenario and different reasons for Sunny to become a shut in
i mean, that's for blackspace and beyond
i mean generally:
Shut in Sunny for years (maybe less?)
Aubrey thinking everyone abandoned her
Hero being sad because Mari can't deal with a long distance relationship
Basil's anxiety coming from being bullied over the album this time
its 4 out of 6
I think you're really underestimating how much Sunny felt guilty after killing Mari, and how much that incident screwed him up
A divorse, where you can still see your loved ones, won't nearly impact someone as greatly as killing that same loved one even if it was an accident
i meant like, somehow mari and him are permanently separated until one is able to be old enough to be independent to visit
Which wouldn't be from a divorce because Mari loved Sunny a lot
I could see her literally going to see him even if it took more than a day on a bus to get there
Hero just loses though 💀
Hero would do the same thing
Or Mari would go to Faraway to visit them both
And I can def see Mari protesting her father taking her custody
And realistically, if Sunny's father is abusive like some of the rumours say, why would he get custody of Mari but not Sunny?
Or hell, why would either parent only get one child?
I'm pretty sure you either take both or no children in the case of a divorce
hm
It wouldn't work. Even if the father was abusive, he wouldnt have the right of custody
like i said
i didn't think it through
also in my country its different
oh in the us you can do that too
well
certain states i presume
@pine lagoon
@native spruce half way done with the Google doc (sorry it's been taking so long school's a bitch)
no you're a bitch 😤
I've just been busy with school mb
i was kidding its fine
take as long as you need
not omori i can tldr you that much
Somewhere in between that
old omori was just not omori 
at least REALLY old omori
it was a different story with somewhat omori characters
the biggest difference iirc is just basils suicide
the story was kind of stable from mid 2018 onwards as far as we are aware
wasent basil meant to have a gun
hunting rifle
because basils grandma is a hunter
(aparently.)
why would you have a probably loaded hunting rifle in your fucking home is a different thing entierly
no one aint robbing you in this small ass middle of nowhere town 😭
probobly animal hunting
oh god you just made me imagine basils grandma with a hunting rifle running into a forest
