#Give Phantom resupply crate

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peak garden
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The Barrett is a special tool for emplacements at longer distances and light vehicles. It's pretty much good where it is. The only issue is carrying all that gear. Usually, since it's cheap, you should get the recon humvee asap to put your stuff into

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There's been a lot of changes about the special equipment that Phantom gets. Darter Drone, Javelin and after annoying the admins enough they finally gave us the .50. Would be a shame to have it taken away after all this effort to get it

sullen idol
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Just ask ogre for a crate, empty it and fill it with what you want. Or have your security not use the LR backpack and use the assault backpack it has more slots.
The standard sniper rifle for the marine corp is the M40 and the DMR is the M14 and since we’re marines that’s not gonna change.

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You should also be running relatively light as well. Like you don’t need more than 5 bandages. Couple pain meds, 3 smokes, vector, thermals if you want, range finder (but those cane be carried by the spotter) shooters have the nv scope.

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Sswt kit

orchid sage
sullen idol
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For a line unit I agree

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Phantom isn’t a line unit and usually sit outside front line

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If you need to bandage more that 5 times you’re set up in a pretty shitty spot

orchid sage
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yeah execpt when they do get shot at it helps to have meds and also when they come across down friendlies are they supposed ot just leave em? cause 5 bandages is like 2 for a freindly 1 to help a phatnom buddy 2 for me

sullen idol
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If you wanna grab 10 for the off chance that you do get shot or run across friendlies at a point that go for it. I’m just saying 5 elastic and 5 quick clot gets out stable enough to get out of combat and to a medic

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I did say 3 pain pills which is more than enough

orchid sage
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alright why 3 painkillers they come in boxes of 10

sullen idol
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3 boxes of painkillers is what I mean

orchid sage
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yeah why, you only need 1 box, you take more than 10 and you OD

sullen idol
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Then take 1 box. And generally I’ve run into people thag forget to bring em

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Or

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You fall back get healed still in pain

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And take em again

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Or you take fall damage cause Arma

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Pop a pill

orchid sage
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but yeah back on point phantom has kinda changed alot and we kinda need to have phantom reflect thoose changes

sullen idol
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Phantom has moved to mostly a sniper platform which is why shooters get the m14 and m40 since they are what the marines use.

The Barrett is handy for when you need to hit targets far away and light vehicles. The reason the ammo is in the phantom crate is because that’s really the only way to control how much ammo you can take with the Barrett.

Ogre can give you a crate to use so you don’t have to bring the phantom crate in the field and this way it allows you and the phantom team to customize what you want to bring instead of giving you stock stuff that you take out anyway

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You still have RF and vector because we still are FO and ISR

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They also picked up a security member that acts as protection and depending how you play it, the default team lead since they can monitor LR and relay Info while spotter and sniper do their thing

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Between the 3 of em should be able to carry enough for the whole AO or at least have a crate for it. Plus they still have their vic when it’s viable to get/use it

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What other changes need to be made?

orchid sage
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firstly phantom is not really a forward observer any more because it can conduct CFF's, only report in the fall of shot, ISR is much less now as no drone and just how arma works means that likely gonna be on some poisiton of the flanks of the frontline and take a bit to get there so by the time were in place the platoon is regularly rocking up or already decisively engaged, due to the fact that only phatnom sniper now has longrange weapons the ability to provide longrange accurate fire is greatly dimishised.

now as to the crate, the whole problem is getting resupplied in the field its all well and good having that nice crate at the start but, carrying a crate all the way to an OP takes time and is slow, and doesnt do anything for when the sniper is out of ammo in the field and needs a resupply and ogre cant do anything so you have to RTB.

sullen idol
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Phantom is a FO and ISR. If you have targets and 10dig you just have to check in with 1-8 and either ask to task savage/shade or pass the mission onto 1-8 for him to call in and observe the shot. If there’s laser guided missiles and you have a designator clear with 1-8 and you can designate the target. It’s just 1 more step from before which in the grand scheme of things is nothing.

Phantom sniper SHOULD be the only one with long range weapons. Giving them to the other roles completely negates the purpose of the other roles. Spotter is supposed to spot and adjust the shooter onto the target and call in fire missions. Security is just that security and honestly should be the FTL of the group taking with 1-6 and command or jumping on 31 to inform squads of shit in their way. Phantom is supposed to work as a team with each member doing what they’re supposed to to make it succeed. Not 3 snipers with different names.

You can load the crate with sniper ammo.M40 is super strong as well as the M14 for multiple targets. Can also@load it with all the rest of the stuff you want and the security can walk it up the hill while sniper and spotter get into positions

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You can also load the box Into your Vic and park it close so you don’t have to go so far

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And an ogre crate can hold a lot of shit, especially ammo. Just ask for an ogre to empty a crate for you and you’re gtg to fill it with anything you ever wanted

frosty kiln
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^^^

heavy shale
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Anyone that says pull your crate, load it with ammo, take a vehicle and then turns around and says carry light automatically is contradicting themselves.

Phantom SNIPER does not have the access to the only long range weapon. Everyone does in the company, hince the MK27. What you meant to say is the sniper should have access to the only class magnifaction scope to perform the role effectively.

Which, if that's what you really meant, would mean you are contradicting yourself again because a RECON unit and I am I qouting you, "Phantom is a FO and ISR." That would require them to be light footed and quick to react. Having to walk back 2k to a parked vehicle and move to next spot does not seem very tactical, undetected and frankly not ideal. Wether you are carrying the crate or driving a vehicle. That is a form of weight you must be accountable for so, let me ask you again what this post was orginally intended for.

Is it more difficult to have the resupply crate be updated of ammo for phantom weapons for when Ogre drops it off with all the others at supply points or is it more difficult to take a general resupply, empty it, refill it with our shit, and have one of the members drag/drive/carry it around being, in your words "lightweight"?

Not trying to stir shit up here guys, It was a simple suggestion to update the crates ammo..that's all. The weapons are fine that was just a opinion since, well, no one uses the Barret.

sullen idol
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I’m offering suggestions and alternatives when you said you have to run back and rearm after each objective because you run out of ammo. I offered about the crate because you can fit in a shit ton of ammo inside it sniper and otherwise along with a whole bunch of other things it’s not contradicting moving fast and light when you have a fast vehicle that you stuff with a crate full of your extra equipment. Rearm after obj 1 of you need to and then move to OBJ 2.

And I meant what I said about the rifles M40 and M14 are strong and more accurate for further targets out to like 1500m 556 on the server is effective till 800 yard with most engagements occurring under 500.

And yes they can be FO and ISR you can literally park your phantom vic 20 Meters behind you if you wanted. Or 100.

Phantom is not solely a recon element anymore they are also a platoon sniper team tasked with taking out targets and have free fire ability.

On this kind of map yoh can park it on the opposite side of the hill you’re on and no one will be the wiser. AI won’t hear it or engages because you’re still over 500m from them

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Ogre drops off supplies for the line squads. It doesn’t need to drop@off for phantom because phantom has their own Vic and is usually just ammo they require which they can load to bear inside the Vic or spread out in the security and spotter roles for the sniper

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O think you’re thinking phantom is an SF asset when it’s not

heady bolt
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YES

orchid sage
sullen idol
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1-4 is a heavy weapons squad and their whole deal is AT any MG fire that supports the whole platoon and defends against BGs. They also get their own Vic because they bring their box with them. And maneuver to different SBF or QRF battlegroups. Ogre resupplys their AT and MG ammo because they literally burn through it and the AT is crucial. It also usually come with a platoon resupply for the whole platoon to rearm

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The logic works

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Phantom can fill an entire crate full of ammo nv and anything else they need and stay out in the AO for hours. 1-4 blows their AT on armor they are Winchester till they get resupplies

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I know this cause when I phantom I have everything I could possibly need in my crate with me or in my Vic and I never had to ask for ogre resupply

sullen idol
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Phantom is my fav thing to play but in no way shape or form should Ogre have to resupply it. A little bit of extra work at the beginning making a crate or managing the packs on you’re team and you’re good for the restart.

frosty kiln
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You shouldn’t be burning through all your ammo as phantom either, maybe if you have a decent spot and are safe while the platoon is in gaged and you have good eyes on priority targets but even then I’ve gone 2/3rds of a restart and used my words as a weapon with phantom if that makes sense

tulip current
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why would u have ogre resupply you just take the extra 15 mins to fill up ur crate or the recce vic and you’d have enough supply + ammo to last you 2 restarts if you do it right