💻-building-a-pc

[pulsar fossil]

The crazy thing is that where I lived before I paid like $10 ish a month for those speeds

Now I'm paying a more "normal" $30 per month for it

[scenic junco]

I pay like 80

[pulsar fossil]

Oof

[scenic junco]

The US has a really high cost for internet and cell service

[pulsar fossil]

That's very true

And cell service generally isn't that great

At least in my experience with ATT and T-Mobile

[scenic junco]

Verizon is pretty fast

As long as you have the 5g plan

[pulsar fossil]

I haven't been to the US for a while now

[scenic junco]

But yea its pretty mid, i know people who pay $40 a month and get 5mbps cell service

[scenic junco]

I live in the middle of nowhere USA so from my pov, youre not missing much

[pulsar fossil]

I usually go there like 3 times per year and I haven't been there once since '19

[scenic junco]

Makes sense ig

[pulsar fossil]

Yeah

[scenic junco]

Covid isnt a big deal where I am thankfully

[pulsar fossil]

That's great

I had it in Dec '20 and it was not a fun time

[scenic junco]

I had it in january 2020, i had a fever of 104°(sorry i cant think of it jn C off the top of my head) for like 2 days

[pulsar fossil]

It sucks

[static pecan]

I pay $60 per month for this lol

[cinder sage]

This is lit

[grim moon]

Need help

Rgb on nzxt and case fans don’t work, but spin as normal

The aio is on but that’s it for the nzxt

[celest vector]

Whats better arctis 7 or arctis pro?

[raw marsh]

preference

[pulsar fossil]

It's awesome :)

[pulsar fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-monkey-look-and-leave-yikes-monkey-look-and-leave-gif-14895670

[static pecan]

Yep

The sliver lining is I'm technically only paying for 100 down, 5 up but it's pretty consistently 120 down and 12 up

[queen violet]

NZXT rgb fans have a proprietary connector

The rgb needs to be plugged into an NZXT fan hub

[pulsar fossil]

Def better than getting less than what you pay for

[static pecan]

True, especially since I'm in an apartment complex. Tbh I was expecting the internet to be a lot worse but all in all it's pretty solid, just wish decent speeds didn't require me to sell my limbs and various other organs to questionable people online 🙃

[pulsar fossil]

Very true

[celest vector]

Uhh

[grim moon]

And if it didn’t come with it?

I’m gonna have to spend extra for a hub just to get my rgb to work

Or get recognized by the software

[white sequoia]

for all you budget bois out there, r9 390x, and fury x are pretty cheap as far as gpus go on ebay

[queen violet]

It came with NZXT rgb fans but no hub?

[obtuse dove]

Like this? 😏 😏 😏

[jaunty mason]

i dream about this

[grim moon]

Yeah nzxt x53 rgb only came with the radiators, the AIO pump, etc but no hub

It doesn’t even mention it in the manual it says it as something extra

[queen violet]

Yep my brother had that, you’ll need the NZXT hub of Amazon

[grim moon]

Apparently it’s extra

Man that sucks

The hub I have behind my mobo should be working fine, if only

[queen violet]

Yep

[queen violet]

Double yep, had the same issue

[neon gust]

someone has a good plan for an rtx 3070 or 3080 ?(not overprice)

[crimson scroll]

Lol

[white sequoia]

No

Make a sacrifice to satan

[rotund void]

Intel i7 11900K or Ryzen 7 5800X

[queen violet]

12th gen or 5800x 3D

[rotund void]

Ya that stuff

[white sequoia]

5800x beats 11900k, 12900k beats 5800x

[queen violet]

11th gen is crap

10th gen is good, but 12th gen absolutely obliterates it for not much more.

Only reason to go team red right now is the 3D CPU’s.

But the gains are not in every game/scenario, whereas with 12th gen everything has improved(unless it’s 8K gaming)

[grim moon]

Wow that sucks balls

[white sequoia]

10th gen i3s are cheap as hecc

[grim moon]

@queen violet i fixed my nzxt problem, i just had to connect the 40mm fan to fan connector to the remaining breakout cable and then the other end back to one of the fans

everything else connected just fine

[scenic junco]

I found my 3060ti by accident at a checkout counter at best buy

[pulsar fossil]

Speaking of internet speeds; ATT is bringing up to 2 and up to 5 gigabit internet to 70 cities in the US for $110 and $180 per month

That's pretty fast

[static pecan]

I wish my town had Google Fiber. I keep being baited by their "Upgrade now!" Emails only to search my address and be continually disappointed lol

AT&T is even worse around here unfortunately. When I was looking at getting internet for my apartment I was originally going to get their package because it was the best deal, but when I went online I found out the only way to actually get the package was to call them up and do everything over the phone. I set up TWO different times for them to call me about it and they never called either time so they didn't get my business

[lament pawn]

Meanwhile me i cant even use 1/3 of my internet speed since its ridiculous

[static pecan]

😭 😭 😭

You should give some of that to me

[queen violet]

Can you share the bandwidth with me pls

[pulsar fossil]

Come over and we'll do a LAN party on my gigabit internet 😅

[lament pawn]

I peaked at 77 MB/s and then steam said no

[vocal topaz]

y'all have godlike internet, I'm happy when I can share my 50 Mbit with 3 other people but I gotta say, more is not possible where I live lololol

[pulsar fossil]

[lament pawn]

[lament pawn]

Tho launcher doesn't restrict me

[pulsar fossil]

Nice

[robust steeple]

wow me it's 1day

[cosmic current]

Don't get mad at me, for some reason these won't send in #moments-clips or #archive-rate-my-clip

[cosmic current]

This one makes me feel happy, the league community isn't as screwed as I thought.

[white sequoia]

Ah yes, building a PC. Def not LoL

[molten sage]

Work in progress

[lime pollen]

a very nice board.

what CPU?

[molten sage]

I9-10800k

[lime pollen]

wait. a 10800K with an LGA1200 socket? something isn't lining up

oh wait derp. I'm thinking of 12th gen with the LGA1700

[molten sage]

10850k

[frank loom]

Is there even 10800k?

[lime pollen]

yeah that's what confused me. I thought the third diget was the core, and they go uneven

[molten sage]

My mistake its a i9-10850k

[lime pollen]

okai

[molten sage]

I also got 32gb ram 2x16gb and a 1TB SSD 980

[lime pollen]

SATA or M.2?

[molten sage]

M.2

[lime pollen]

why 11th and not 12th gen intel?

[molten sage]

Wym

[lime pollen]

there's a 12th gen of intel cores now called Adler Lake

[frank loom]

Its 10th too

[lime pollen]

alder*

mkay, question stands. why not newset gen?

[molten sage]

I mean theirs no point to buy a extra +$100 11th or 12 gen core

Performance will still be good

Its +$200 more for 12th gen

[frank loom]

would be around 350-400 cause motherboard price diff as well

[molten sage]

Well the mb was $250

[frank loom]

$410 for z690

[molten sage]

Its the z590

[frank loom]

Yeah, but for 12th gen it's z690

[lime pollen]

fair nuff. I'll sush.

[frank loom]

it's good anyway

most of games start to be GPU heavy nowadays

so CPU won't be a bottleneck for quite a while in this case

[lime pollen]

yeah.

[frank loom]

and he can get some better GPU while saving on CPU

[lime pollen]

I was building out a PC for my denmate and went with all 12th gen stuff, but had to dial it back when it got to the GPU because... well good luck getting a 30

I have a 30-series, but it's in a laptop

[frank loom]

Yea, 30 series that is not built in (laptops) or included in already done build is quite impossible to get

[molten sage]

Ether nvidia makes a 40 series this year

Or 30 series

[frank loom]

NVIDIA might have issues too

since the outage of microprocessors

and GDDR

[molten sage]

I mean the i9-11900k is cheaper than the 10850k

But which one is better

Bc both are a few dollars from each other

[frank loom]

11900k is just a little bit better

it's much better in single core tho

but in multicore it's same, in some programs even worse (has less cores tho)

[molten sage]

So should i just stay safe with the 10850k since it has 10 cores instead of 8

[frank loom]

11900k also supports higher ram speed and newer PCIe version

I really dunno, it's up to you

[molten sage]

Well i plan on getting the 3600MHz

[frank loom]

3200 is the max supported for 11900k, and 2933 for 10850k, but most likely your motherboard has XMP so it would be no issue for any of them to run 3600

the question is do you need new PCIe and single core performance or do you need multicore performance

if it's just for gaming then on YouTube there are plenty of FPS results for games on both processors

just check it for the games you play or wanna play

[molten sage]

Thanks for the info its much appreciated

[grim moon]

Worked out all the issues, came out looking nice 🗿

[raw marsh]

nice

[crimson scroll]

#archive-battlestations but nice

[noble oak]

i wish i cloud have one like this :/

[crimson scroll]

Work hard, save up

[molten sage]

What case?

[noble oak]

I'm in Romania. Is PC Gaming Worth It?

20.000 RON in 4.050 EUR 🙂

Yes, is it worth it? And how is it?

[crimson scroll]

Not worth it to me for over 4k euros

[noble oak]

Well why?

[crimson scroll]

Because... I don't think it's worth it for me, personally?

[noble oak]

Uhm..

[crimson scroll]

I think the parts are too expensive

[noble oak]

Is the RTX 3080 TI or 3070 video card worth anything?

[crimson scroll]

It's worth a lot in the current market

[noble oak]

Yes

[noble oak]

Oh

Opinions on some games?

[crimson scroll]

?

[noble oak]

I mean games. On the video card.

😉

[crimson scroll]

Yeah, I still don't know what you mean

Are you asking what games the gpu can play?

Or for recommendations for games?

[noble oak]

For games.

On video card cool.

Is FPS ok for the MMO?

Or Open World.

[crimson scroll]

Depends on res, settings and the actual game but the 3070 and 3080ti are quite powerful

[noble oak]

Yes is it.

Do you know what a processor is? AMD or Intel? 🤔

[raw marsh]

you can't just choose between AMD and Intel

they both have a wide range of processors \

[crimson scroll]

I know what a processor is, yes

[noble oak]

Oh, how is Intel from the RTX 3080 TI and RTX 3070 Video Card?

[raw marsh]

[noble oak]

Is Intel i9 12900K worth anything? 🤔

[raw marsh]

well again yes

[noble oak]

Oh, that's good.

I may buy a PC again soon 🙂

Thank you, good evening.

[molten sage]

If u want to spend $700 on a processor sure!

The motherboard and processor alone will be over $1000

Not including the ram or gpu

[white sequoia]

12900k is the current best

[molten sage]

Yes but for the price its not worth spending $700 on a processor when u dont even have the graphics card

Ur paying for something thats more money but lower the performance

Ur basically buying something thats 300$ worth and putting it into another thing that is twice the price but not the same performance

[grim moon]

Corsair icue 4000x

[celest vector]

Can someone show me the good pc that costs 2500 euro

[robust surge]

good luck with todays video card prices
(ill try to search one for you tho)

[robust surge]

quick question
do you have a preference towards intel or amd in terms if cpu?

just for me to know what you want in your pc

so i can look more easily

[robust surge]

i guess they got banned or something bc i cant @ them or open their profile or reply to them

looks like i can reply but i wont see the "replying to ......" tab

[raw marsh]

they just left

[robust surge]

yesterday i wasnt able to open their profile but now i am lmao

[zinc geyser]

hey I am a bit new to PCs and I wonder if this is good
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/VY4hPX

i didn't choose a gpu yet since they're hard to find it they're not out of stock

[white sequoia]

Power supply is from a brand that i have personally never seen, but if you have experience with that brand, then thats fine. Cooler could be cheaper if you use an Arctic.

[queen violet]

Ye I’ve never seen that psu before, and the Corsair RM2019 and RMx2021 650w psu’s are basically the same price.

[compact estuary]

Nah go for the big boy noctua one, and you’d never need a new cooler ever again

[static pecan]

Bold meme that assumes the 3090ti actually exists 🤔

[frosty lake]

it does just came out mate

[static pecan]

It was supposed to be released in January but rumor is it's getting delayed till late February or March

As of now it doesn't exist to the public

https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-where-are-you&ved=2ahUKEwji3pGhheD1AhWHTTABHSWBAOMQ0PADKAB6BAgDEAE&usg=AOvVaw2yuiecrOjR0rZHX3AHCwhI

[crimson scroll]

more cards we can't get

[static pecan]

I know bro I'm so excited!!

[sullen falcon]

omg help

[white sequoia]

With what

Just "omg help" and then nothing for 5 hours

[raw marsh]

omg help
leaves the server
refuses to elaborate

[hearty lark]

maybe it was fatal

[prime thicket]

How likely is it that I could run 2x 4k 144hz (most likely at 120hz though due to chroma subsampling) pannels for gaming, only one would be used for gaming though, the other would have other stuff on it

(RTX 3080, RYZEN 7 5800X )

[queen violet]

With DLSS probably

[queen violet]

Also depends on the game

[lament pawn]

It was my hard drive keeping me at bay with the writing speeds

[white sequoia]

Yo my windows install borked itself and i needed a clean instal lmao

I wish i could use linux, but i need software that doesnt work

[hearty lark]

Use wine or a vm

[white sequoia]

Also, nvidia drivers

Hmmm

If i can get nvidia to work... then i dont really need windows anymore

[surreal yoke]

its not

[abstract kelp]

i wonder when i can build pc lol

[upbeat lagoon]

is this normal for 5800x in idle with like discord spotify steam and all running in background

i mean temps

[queen violet]

Yep

[upbeat lagoon]

thanks i thought fan only needed to be at lower percentages for this temp

[hearty lark]

It is the fan that guarantees that temperature

[nimble shale]

hey i just bought a rival 600 and it doesnt work
i tried everything
and i have that critical update that doesnt want to download
please help me

[hearty lark]

Fan at lower percentage ... Higher temp

Though a better heat transfer solution or different room temperature makes the numbers different, ofc

[white sequoia]

Wrong channel

[sleek crest]

Is it possible to get the apex 7 ghost with brown switchs insted of blue

[white sequoia]

Should be

Also wrong channel

[tulip path]

Can some one find me a good pc for 1 k

Like parts

[white sequoia]

haha

imagine getting parts for non stupid prices

:(

[granite granite]

hi

[dry dune]

wwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[atomic jay]

agreed

still using Intel Iris 640

[glass prawn]

@white sequoia

[white sequoia]

Hecc u

[sly skiff]

@white sequoia

[white sequoia]

Get blocked

[crimson scroll]

quit pinging people randomly

[sly skiff]

[next gull]

does anyone know a manufacturer for good and especially cheap custom water cooling?

[crimson scroll]

Those three words don't go together when you're talking about water cooling lol

[next gull]

I meant cheaper than for example corsair or ekwb xD

[crimson scroll]

A custom loop is going to be more expensive than a corsair aio

[next gull]

i know

I wanted to spend a maximum of 400 € for the loop

[white sequoia]

Do u want ur parts to go swimming?

[next gull]

hmm Rather not

[queen violet]

I think €400 is probably do-able

It’s the pump, res and blocks which are expensive I think

[shut trail]

I do not think It'll be enough

[next gull]

how much do you think i would need?

[queen violet]

Ye true, I think $600 is usually the average cost

In euros that’s probably $500-550 I think

[shut trail]

it will be pricey actually

[queen violet]

You’d need a GpU block, cpu block, ram block if your into that. The res, the pump, all the fittings, the coolant, the tubing.

Hard tubing costs more but looks better

[shut trail]

and tahat will cost over 500 euros

[next gull]

can you recommend me parts?

[queen violet]

Yep

[shut trail]

like

what

[queen violet]

I mean EK do good stuff

[shut trail]

love your choices

[queen violet]

Do overclockers.U.K. Sell to the eu?

They sell lots of custom loop stuff

[queen violet]

Lol

[queen violet]

What’s ur pc, because the parts depend on the cpu/GpU and stuff

[shut trail]

yep

[shut trail]

they should be able to complatible with your pc

[next gull]

2080 super from msi and ryzen 7 3700x

[queen violet]

Alright

You’ll need to disassemble that GpU shroud down to the pcb

Not now but be warned if you do it

[shut trail]

whoa its actually enough for a good setup but you want better right

[queen violet]

Ooo

Fak

Found a full custom loop

http ://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-hydro-x-series-icue-xh305i-rgb-360mm-cpu-custom-cooling-kit-wc-02e-cs.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAo4OQBhBBEiwA5KWu_-FtD2wFaU9nsoJ7DN0jcPRSMCVUJh_uX-4uJAEbcNKEvfuf2RHRBRoCpgkQAvD_BwE

[shut trail]

be careful with that or you'll get a new gpu

[queen violet]

Add the s in the link

[queen violet]

It’s not too bad actually

[shut trail]

but it might cause a lot problems eventually

[queen violet]

£520 for a full loop

Not bad

360 mil rad too

And hardline tubing

Damn

[shut trail]

at least you can get a good cooling system maybe

[queen violet]

This is actually sick

Overclockers dell a cheaper one too

£440

[shut trail]

one more choice

[queen violet]

Ahhh crap

This is a cpu loop only

[shut trail]

it will cost a lot more than you knew

[queen violet]

That’s why it was cheap lol

[shut trail]

crap

[next gull]

looks nice

would an ek loop, for example, be significantly cheaper?

[queen violet]

Similar price I think

Bear in mind that’s for only a cpu

A GpU + cpu loop would be more expensive

[next gull]

about 650?

[queen violet]

Hmmm

Lemme try configure something

What’s ur full pc specs.

[next gull]

lian 011 dynamic and asus tuf b550

do you need ram and ssd too?

[queen violet]

Just how many sticks

[next gull]

2

[queen violet]

Also which super model is it?

[next gull]

msi gaming x trio

[queen violet]

Want rgb?

[next gull]

yes

[queen violet]

Alr

Hard tubing or soft tubing?

[next gull]

hardtubing

[queen violet]

What colour for the coolant?

Also do you care if the fittings are black or chrome?

Also black or clear GpU block?

[next gull]

the coolant colorless, the gpu block and the fittings black

[queen violet]

Oke

Distro plate or pump and res?

I.e the big glass/plexi block often at the front or the small cylinder.

Performance is the same pretty much so it’s more of a looks thing

[next gull]

i found a nice distroplate

EK-Classic DP Front PC-O11D D-RGB + SPC PWM Distro Plate

what do you think about this?

[queen violet]

Found it

Oooo

€619

For the whole thing

Bugger

Mind if I dm you it?

[queen violet]

Added

[next gull]

no problem

[hybrid lion]

which is better:
aorus x570 extreme
or
msi x570 godlike

[noble oak]

What's better Sensei 10 or Aerox 3

[white sequoia]

Aerox 3 is newer

[south tinsel]

@queen violet

700 dollar oc

pc

[next relic]

What is your use case for the pc? It would make it easier to put something together.

[next relic]

The link provided is just to the pcpartpicker website. Not your specific build

[next relic]

Looks like your cpu cooler is to tall. (Cooler: 157mm, Cooler clearance on motherboard is 147mm).
Also, I would personally buy mid tower atx motherboard + case when building a pc today since it gives more openness when upgrading in the future.
Also you could go with windows 11 since Intel cpus benefits performance wise from win 11.

[next relic]

Both are really high end motherboards and they both are good in different ways.
The xtreme has TMP connection, ECC memory support (often used in servers), 6 total 3.1 usb 3.1 and 4 usb 2.0 connection.
The godlike has better supported base ram speed (5000 godlike vs 3200 extreme "can overclock), one more PCIe 4.0 slots and it has one PS/2 port.

[crimson scroll]

Gonna call out that there's no way the aorus only supports 3200mhz

So that shouldn't be a concern

And you're not hitting 5000mhz on ryzen anyways, more realistic is 4000 max if you want decent timings and geardown

[queen violet]

Not even 4000 unless you get lucky or want to risk a dead SoC

3800/1900 is a fair estimate

Motherboard is only really important when using an intel system, where a motherboards ram handling matters a whole lot more. Aslong as it has vtt for mem and decent vrm’s it should be fine on AMD.

[next relic]

The standard is 3200MHz but you can overclock to 4400MHz (thats what their website says)

[crimson scroll]

Yeah, that just means jedec default support probably

Absolutely a non concern as is the ecc ram

Consumers don't need it

[queen violet]

It’s probably a protective thing so somebody doesn’t come at them when they use a 10400 and some crappy ram and go why can’t I run 4400mhz

[next relic]

Ye. Thats why I included (often used in servers)

[queen violet]

100%

Although

It’s great for overclockers

So for most people it’s irrelevant

And DDR5 comes with ECC as standard so I guess it’s a good habit to get into with motherboard manufacturers

[white sequoia]

Blender renders wont crash as much on super long renders?

[stuck bluff]

Thinking of getting a new pc case, what's the general verdict on Corsair cases, MSI and NZXT?.

[raw marsh]

I'll usually recommend a fractal case depending on the size you need, love their functionality and ease of building in

[stuck bluff]

Just seen fractal torrent and vector. They do look p good!.

Tbh I just wanna transfer my existing stuff into a new case and eventually get a new graphics card lol

[crimson scroll]

some corsair cases are okay

msi is generally bad

nzxt isn't great either

[stuck bluff]

What would you recommend there?.

And what kinda things would you look for in cases?

Build quality and airflow of course are important.

Any other features?

[crimson scroll]

what size are you looking at

and what budget

[stuck bluff]

Probably mid

Around £100-£150

Maybe pushing the boat if it's a good one lol

[crimson scroll]

4000d airflow is good

not sure on the uk price

[stuck bluff]

90 quid, looks good for the price. did spy the carbide omega and crystal cases but I think the carbide looks a bit dodgy for frontal airflow

[crimson scroll]

meshify 2 is decent too

around 120-130 pounds

[stuck bluff]

That also did catch my eye! Cheers mate, appreciate the advice!

Suppose I'm trying to find one similar to my gamemax Polaris and maybe a tad bigger than that for more upgrades lol

[crimson scroll]

torrent is very nice, quite a lot bigger and close to $200 though

[stuck bluff]

I'm sure I'll push the boat out for it! Tho between that and the Corsair crystal idk which looks better lol

[crimson scroll]

as always i'd check if gamersnexus has a review up for cases you're interested in

[alpine marsh]

Wanting to build a PC using Corsairs newest iCue case, currently have a 4000D airflow. I want to have a 12th gen i7 or i9 (if I can afford it). Would like 32GB RAM, liquid cooling, at least a GTX3070 (because that is a huge step up for me), would love some NVME storage in 4th gen for my main drive if I can. I will probably use a 6TB or larger drive for backup storage and such.

[next relic]

I am a but of a Phanteks fan.
I transferred my build to their Phanteks p600a after Christmas. It was a easy case to build in and I really liked their quality and clean look 😊

[queen violet]

Same for me, well sorta. Building in my H710 was easy and really enjoyable, whereas building in the Lian Li 205 Mesh for my brother was a pain in the ass.

[stuck bluff]

Just had a look at the phanteks 600s and it's a good lookin case. I think you've sold me on it lol

[next relic]

Haha! When I saw it at first I felt, I must have that case. Then I bought it and it was the best case ever I built in. A clean design and good airflow at the same time as it keeps the sound levels low.

[white sequoia]

My fav look of a case is the grey o11 evo with the mesh front

Or o11 air mini

Very pretty

[stuck bluff]

All I wanna do is move my kit from one case to the new, idk how hard that'll be tho. 😅.

[stuck bluff]

I'll take a look at those too!., They sound like good bits of kit!

[next relic]

I did that. It is way easier and less stressful than building a completely new pc (I've done both)
Just look at an tutorial on YouTube and then you'll be good to go :)

[stuck bluff]

Might just pay my local pc shop to do it as I don't have time to do it myself 😂😂

[idle helm]

I only need two more upgrades

Storage

And gpu

[lucid wigeon]

have a look at the 5000d

that’s the one I decided on and have recommended it to two friends who also got it

5000d airflow*

[stuck bluff]

That a Corsair or phan?.

[lucid wigeon]

corsair

super solid case

[stuck bluff]

Stop making it hard to choose! I want them all! 😤😂😂

[lucid wigeon]

it all depends on what you need, some cases have usb c ports however your mobo might not have a header for it

tons of good manufacturers, lian li, corsair, phanteks

[stuck bluff]

I don't think my mobo has a header for it, asrock z370 killer, If it doesn't I'll probably chuck a blank on it lol

[lucid wigeon]

looks like it does

1 x Front Panel Type C USB 3.1 Gen1 Header

[stuck bluff]

Oh sweet!

Time to splash the cash on a case at some point

I get paid Friday, just gotta find stock 😂😂

[white sequoia]

Do u care about size?

[crimson scroll]

He wants mid atx

[stuck bluff]

My current one is gamemax Polaris, I think that's a mid size one?. I'll need to check.

I'm fairly sure it's a mid

[white sequoia]

Fractal torrent is a pretty big case

May not be what you want

4000d airflow is probably a good pick

[next gull]

does icue work with all asus mainboards?

[white sequoia]

Asus has aura iirc

So probably not

[idle helm]

Saucy, since I can't ping you I hope you see this.

Thanks for all the help you've gave me

I've learned alot

[crimson scroll]

No prob

[worn schooner]

So im gonna upgrade my pc when I have the money and this is the finished part list. Tell me if I missing anything or suggestions. I do have a hard drive it’s just not listed

[white sequoia]

Crucial ram can be cheaper than the corsair

I had a 750ti, its actually not a bad card

Getting old now tho

[worn schooner]

For real

I get about 100 average frame rate on val

And thanks I’ll check it out

[noble oak]

my one is antect 😂

[latent fulcrum]

Patriot ram can be cheaper too

And ryzen processors as well

I believe

[latent fulcrum]

Or intel is cheaper these days xD

[queen violet]

Depends where and what you look for.

[latent fulcrum]

Thats true

Thats why i check multiple market places before u buy stuff :)

[stuck bluff]

Lol all I want is prices to go down on gpus 😭

[latent fulcrum]

@worn schooner tbh that looks like a new pc build not an upgrade :) the only thing ull use from the old one is the psu i guess and the hd. If u can sell some of the old stuff u may wanna buy ssd or nvme :)

[next relic]

It’s all the crypto currency miners that keeps the price unrealistic high.
I heard of a gpu you couldn’t mine on. Its much cheaper and keeps the performance. But not the hash rate. I believe it’s always out of stock though 😡😡

[raw marsh]

Lots of cards come with LHR these days

but that's a small deterrent and easy to circumvent

[white sequoia]

it doesnt work. They found a way to get around it, and it only worked on Ethereum in the first place

[stuck bluff]

I can't stand crypto and Nfts, but that's another topic instead of pc builds lol. Going back to parts tho, I do fancy the aorus 2070, but the problem is I'm on a 1070ti ATM, not sure if it's worth upgrading and if so, what would be the next step?. Skip 20 and go to 30 series?

[latent fulcrum]

Yup

[worn schooner]

Yeah it’s pretty much a new build except those things and my gpu I’m keeping. And how much do you think I could make off the cpu? Cause that’s the only thing I see being worth like 80. Also I keeping the cpu fan

[white sequoia]

Wait for 40 series since ur not gonna get a 30 series one anyway

[latent fulcrum]

Well u can check how much are 2nd hands going these days

[noble oak]

Upgrading GPU right now is suicidal. 1070ti is perfectly capable to this day. Just wait a little longer and this whole mess will come crashing down.

[stuck bluff]

Thanks for the advice

Much obliged

[next gull]

is it possible to install a distroplate in the front and 2 radiators (one on top and one on the side) in the o11 dynamic? and would 3 fans still fit at the bottom?

[gray gust]

how do u change the color for the apex 100 if its possible

[stuck bluff]

Unfortunately, apex 100 is stuck on blue lighting

[gray gust]

oh

[white sequoia]

select the kays

wait

this isnt the right channel

[white sequoia]

that is a popular config as far as i know

[next gull]

okay thank you

[opaque juniper]

since the motherboard has an hdmi and everything will i still need to buy a motherboard?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9W7K8r

[stuck bluff]

Not quite sure what you mean.

[opaque juniper]

the motherboard has an hdmi port, do i still need a graphics card?

[stuck bluff]

Yeah definitely

[opaque juniper]

ok

thanka

tha ks*

thanks*

[stuck bluff]

The motherboard is only good for integrated graphics on CPUs which are weak. Graphics cards will definitely be needed for gaming.

[opaque juniper]

ok

[stuck bluff]

[opaque juniper]

ok, is this one any good?

[stuck bluff]

I'm not an expert on pc building but I'd imagine a 3060 would be a better start point.

[opaque juniper]

ok

those are alot more expensive lmao

[worn schooner]

What games do you mostly play?

[noble oak]

i prefer 3060

[fallow onyx]

6600 xt is better than 3060 unless ur mining

And it’s cheaper

[stuck bluff]

I was merely recommending a 3060 over a 3050

But it's all preference

And look at the system specs on the games you wanna play before buying

But again, it's all preference and your needs. Do what you want ig

[fallow onyx]

I built my first pc with no experience I’m still surprised it worked

[stuck bluff]

Good on you mate! That's awesome :)

I've merely installed bits

Not done a whole thing

[fallow onyx]

How far in are you?

I’m only here because I’m impressed by steel series support when my chat mixer broke

[stuck bluff]

Oh I have a full pc, I got built for me. But I've only added to it.

SSD and ram

The support is p good

[fallow onyx]

Indeed I got my arctis 5 headset a year ago for Xbox and just realised the chat mix is broken lol

[noble oak]

And where do you expect to find this?

[fallow onyx]

the 3050 is easy to get

[noble oak]

For how much is the question

[white sequoia]

No gpu is ez to get

[worn schooner]

Yes

For a decent price

[white sequoia]

Read name

[noble oak]

do you think gpu prices will ever go down

[worn schooner]

Sorry

[white sequoia]

No

Not now at least

Now that nvidia knows they can jack up the prices

[sweet scaffold]

Hi

[worn schooner]

Hey bro

[noble oak]

https://youtu.be/PfF_JgNvJfQ

Considering

[static pecan]

It's cool, but not $500 cool

[noble oak]

You know any other case that has good airflow and doesn't look like a grey or black brick?

[stuck bluff]

That's still a lot of cash for a case

[next relic]

I agree.

[white sequoia]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705844454757761056/943941429535846470/unknown.png

RIP

[static pecan]

...how...

[worn schooner]

Wait what how does that happen

Did you step on it while it was supported on the edges??

[tame flax]

jesus christ

[opaque juniper]

250

[noble oak]

where do I get a cheap cpu for a setup under 1700

[frank olive]

everywhere

1700 usd is mid-high level for a pc

[noble oak]

Yeah and that's absolutely ridiculous.

[frank olive]

nothing about 1700 dollars is cheap

[noble oak]

1700 used to get you top of the line PC

Not too long ago.

And it can do the same now had the prices stayed at msrp.

[white sequoia]

12600k should be good for that price

[proud ermine]

hmm

[open robin]

i found a pc with Ryzen 7 5800X, RTX 3070Ti, 32 GB RAM 3200Mhz, 512 GB SSD, 2 TB HDD and 750W PSU for 1,742 usd

[white sequoia]

Prebuilt?

[queen violet]

That’s actually pretty good

That’s £1450

Very respectable

[white sequoia]

Still hurts my soul that that is a good price

[worn schooner]

For real

[abstract kelp]

how much would this cost?

[noble oak]

Avg 6000 PLN, and 1500$ avg

Or £

[abstract kelp]

ok

what is a good gaming monitor for minecraft

must be 244hz or above

[noble oak]

244hz doesn't exist.

Best 240hz monitor is Benq XL2546K

Best 360hz monitor is Acer XV252Q (it's 390hz).

[muted bay]

i have benq xl2411k (144hz)

[lucid wigeon]

who on gods green earth would need a 240hz gaming monitor just for minecraft

[white sequoia]

Yeah

Above 165hz is overkill to me

My friend has 240hz on their laptop

Cant notice the difference

[stuck bluff]

Mines 120 and honestly I don't play competitive so I'm quite comfortable with it.

[abstract kelp]

k ty

[gray plover]

why do you even need that may hz? can you pc reliably keep all games over 390fps??

[abstract kelp]

umm

not all games

i play only minecraft

and i dont have a pc

after 2 years im planning on building pc and gettng monitor

[gray plover]

if i was you get a 144hz

[abstract kelp]

i dont want 144hz

[gray plover]

why not?

[abstract kelp]

i want 390 or 240

;)

[gray plover]

if you really want that go for a 240

[noble oak]

Idk. He asked, I answered.

[gray plover]

your not gonna keep 390 over all games even with a 3090 ti

[abstract kelp]

DUde

i only play minecraft bedwars

[noble oak]

Minecraft Bedrock should be able to run at 390 FPS with a decent CPU.

[gray plover]

bruh haha

why do you need that to play minecraft?

[noble oak]

Java... no chance.

[abstract kelp]

umm

its better

[abstract kelp]

the pv im gonna build is 1500$ and its the exact specs as sponky

pc*

:)

bye i gtg and play bws

[noble oak]

You gonna build it... now?

That's a bit suicidal.

[gray plover]

my pc is like 2 grands work maybe a bit more. i cant keep fps that high on many games. well it was 2k when i built it when the 2070 super just launched

worth

[noble oak]

Yes, getting 360+ FPS is only possible on very specific games.

[gray plover]

i play mostly destiny 2 and maxed out with hdr on and all the good stuff i get 120 fps

[noble oak]

I am actually thinking about getting one of those upcomming 1440p 360hz monitors.

Or well.. 300hz.

There will be an option with local dimming zones. Those will go to 300hz.

But will have to wait and see for more info and pricing.

Right now the ultrawide OLED one is still in top priority for me.

[gray plover]

i have a samsung oddesy g5 32 inch and its a babe

144 hz hdr 1440p its all anyone realistically needs

[noble oak]

I am in this very bad position when it comes to gaming.

360hz monitors are largery irrelevant now.

Ironically because current gaming trends don't favor those.

[gray plover]

in comp games you want as much fps as possible so lots of people go 120 hz or less

[noble oak]

Overwatch was the only relevant Esport game that could make use of 360hz. And that was mainly due to the stupid forced 103 FOV.

[gray plover]

but if you dont play comp games 144 or more is good. there is a point of diminishing returns though

no god no

dont buy a mac haha

[noble oak]

Arena FPS games are the ones that can make use of 360hz. Because those games are actually fast where that would matter.
But the genre as a whole is dead.

[gray plover]

so overpriced and can build a better pc for cheaper

yea it is tbf

[noble oak]

But I still play them.
So in a perfect world, I would buy a 360hz monitor to play Unreal Tournament 3 against bots 😆

Maybe the upcomming Quake game will save us all.

[gray plover]

haha yea maybe

[noble oak]

But after Champions.. ehh who knows.

Quake Champions can actually run at 360 FPS. But F that game, honestly.

[lucid wigeon]

dw, wasn't attacking you 🙂

the issue with above 165 hz monitors is you will have to sacrifice something to get to that hz, unless you want to spend big bucks

[gray plover]

yea exactly

[lucid wigeon]

most 240/360hz monitors aren't ips, usually va panel

then that brings you a boatload of compromises

viewing angles

[noble oak]

Well no, most are IPS.

We are long past the days of TN

[lucid wigeon]

if you want to spend big bucks

[noble oak]

Even the budget options are IPS now.

[lucid wigeon]

360hz ips?

[noble oak]

360hz is IPS only

[lucid wigeon]

mind you, they are probably 24 inch 1080p

[noble oak]

There is only one panel in fact. And all 360hz monitors use that panel.

The reason why Acer has a 390hz monitor, is because they took that same panel and overclocked it to 390hz.

Why could they do that? Well because Nvidia did not pay them.

Every 360hz monitor has the same panel. And a Gsync module that prevents it from going past 360 hz and prevents the use of HDMI 2.1

Why does it have a Gsync module? Because Nvidia is stupid.

[lucid wigeon]

my statement still stands for 240hz, maybe not for 360hz

[noble oak]

That's why the MSRP of 360hz monitors is around 600$

And Acer is 400$

But obviously Acer one is inflated because it's a better product.

And good things aren't allowed in this world.

Are you serious...

Stupid bot

Retails for 300 EUR here.

Gee my 'n silsiliers muis

I don't think that 240hz TN are even being made anymore.

So what you will find on those are the left over stock from 2017 or resellers.

[lucid wigeon]

that's pretty cheap, there must be a downside to it

[noble oak]

The downside is that it's ASUS 😆

[lucid wigeon]

i'm a big fan of 27" 1440p, I have a pair of s2721dgfa monitors

[noble oak]

But there are similar alternatives from other brands.

I think MSI's are even cheaper.

But they are 240hz. Not that it matters.

[lucid wigeon]

crazy shit

you'll end up spoiling yourself if you get used to higher hz than you can afford

[noble oak]

That's true.

Which is why I have been avoiding it 😆

I did play 360hz. Pretty good stuff.

But again, you need a game where that is necessary. You see all these people buying 360hz monitors for CSGO, Valorant, Rocket League etc

But why? The first 2 are slower than my grandma and the 3rd is a racing game.

[scarlet shuttle]

hi does steelseries arctis 1 work with steelseries gg?

[noble oak]

No because it's a 3.5mm headset.

So it doesn't use any software, other than sound EQs.

[scarlet shuttle]

oh thanks

[queen stratus]

rate my build i got a 3080 ti intel i9 12 gen 16 gb of 3600 mhz ddr4 ram 1 tb ssd

[white sequoia]

Nice but smol storage

[static pecan]

5TB or bust 😤

[crimson scroll]

ok

[static pecan]

Hell yeah

[visual minnow]

@paper sapphire

[next relic]

Read the rules, they clearly says that your aren’t allowed to tag mods if it isn’t needed. In this case it seems very unnecessary to ping them.

[queen violet]

Trueeee

2tb SN850, 1tb Gen 4 Rocket, 2tb HDD to never use again 😎

[surreal cave]

Help

[white sequoia]

F

check event veiwer

[atomic jay]

Hello, i would like a budget gaming laptop the can run warzone, any recommendations ?

[noble oak]

None of them can.

Unless you want to resort to heavy measures such as low settings and below 1080p res.

[atomic jay]

i think the ROG g15 advanced edition can run it at 1080p

idk tho

[noble oak]

It can

But it's 2 grands.

[atomic jay]

its cheaper hear

[noble oak]

Not sure if you consider that "budget"

[atomic jay]

here

its fine

[noble oak]

Yes that one can run Warzone.

If it's well priced, get it. And pray ASUS won't scr3w you over.

[atomic jay]

i'll buy it from amazon

it's about same price as my laptop now

i'm using a 2020 13 inch MacBook pro that runs nothing except Roblox and LoL

1.4GHz quad-core 8th‑generation Intel Core i5

[noble oak]

How much?

@atomic jay

[atomic jay]

1.8 grand

i live in hk so its much cheaper here

[noble oak]

What screen does it have?

[atomic jay]

300 hz

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-Strix-G15-Accessories/dp/B097SMJYLN/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2YQJ4K4KDMPY9&keywords=rog+zephyrus+g15&qid=1645592620&sprefix=rog%2Caps%2C356&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExODFaVlZPOEo0SVpQJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzY0MjA1MUw3NklHMUhKWk5XRyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjI1MjQxMzhNMjFSRUhBQVkwWSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

the 16gb ram

[noble oak]

The msrp of that laptop was 1650$

[atomic jay]

yea

[noble oak]

So you are still overpaying. If you need something right now at all costs, go for it.
If you can wait, wait for the new laptops.

[atomic jay]

Its original price in our country

In Hong Kong, there are no taxes or anything like that

so Electronics are cheaper there

[white sequoia]

Lenovo Legion 5

[dark walrus]

Can someone dm me a good pc build

Cause I want to build a pc but Ik nothing about the building process

[frosty mulch]

budget?

@dark walrus

and for what use

[dark walrus]

I’ll be using it for gaming but idk the budget

Maybe around 1000

Maybe 1500

[frosty mulch]

USD i assume?

[dark walrus]

Yea

[frosty mulch]

i'll be working on it!

[dark walrus]

Bro bet

[worn jacinth]

Hi. Been building systems for 27 years. Im from sweden. Give me a budget and your knowledged in building and i can give you info and help how to

[dark walrus]

I’m tired of sucking on controller

[dark walrus]

Ok, my budget would be around $1000 to $1500. And I have no experience in pc building

All I need is like the parts and stuff and I’ll buy it once I get my paychecks

[worn jacinth]

No problem at all. I´ll help you throught the building process. So 10 - 15 is your budget. It gives you a good gaming machine. Do you know if you want Amd or Intel?

[dark walrus]

I don’t know what AMD is but I have intel on my laptop

I’m not very familiar though

[frosty mulch]

oh shit, gpu prices are still fucked up

[dark walrus]

Actually

I heard there pretty pricy

[frosty mulch]

they are

[dark walrus]

Damn

How much are you talking

[frosty mulch]

i made a built

but its jusssttt over budget

[dark walrus]

Oh

Lemme take a look

[worn jacinth]

Allright... Amd i the biggest competitor to inte today. Sorry if i spel words wrong. Hpe you undestand.

[dark walrus]

I might be able to squeeze something in

[frosty mulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qgq7hk

does it show up??

[dark walrus]

Yes

[dark walrus]

Yes

[frosty mulch]

alr this is what i made of it

a rtx 3050 is the most i could've fit in there

normal prices even a 3060 would fit

[dark walrus]

Ok

[frosty mulch]

kinda high priced mb not gnna lie,

[dark walrus]

Damn that’s just a little over budget

[frosty mulch]

but i do not think it is over priced

[dark walrus]

Yea that’s ok

[frosty mulch]

it was an rtx 3050 or an gtx 1650

[worn jacinth]

Amd is stroong in multitasking. And Intel is strong in cheap cpus for gaming. So whats your use on a computer?

[frosty mulch]

gaming he said

even amd is still good in gaming with avarage of 2 fps less

[worn jacinth]

Thanks missed that part.

[frosty mulch]

no worries

[dark walrus]

Wow

2 fps is close

[worn jacinth]

Yes amd is strong on everey part.

[frosty mulch]

yeaaah but for those e sporters it makes the difference

[frosty mulch]

true

i have an AMD Ryzen 9 5900x myself

i love it.

[dark walrus]

Wow

How’s the graphics card on the build?

[frosty mulch]

its alr

not the best

but for price shit its prtty gud actually

[dark walrus]

Ok

I’m the future could I always replace the old one with a better one?

[frosty mulch]

yeah very easy process

[dark walrus]

Ok ok

[frosty mulch]

but 3050 fulfills the needs tbh

[dark walrus]

And let’s say when I buy the pc parts are there like videos to build it?

[dark walrus]

Ok

[frosty mulch]

enough

[dark walrus]

Ok

[worn jacinth]

but intel launched its 12400F which i cheap and compares with a good gpu with the best cpus today. A minus is non integrated gpru and non overclocked. But perfect for a home gaming user

[frosty mulch]

but don't forget.. if you break the item yourself while building it sacks the guarantee

[frosty mulch]

maybe he wanted to OC so i gave gim the K

12400f is eh

for gaming

its good

but 12600 is slightly better and fits in budget

[worn jacinth]

Tottaly right. If you want and have the knowlage to overclock the 12600K is the cpu to buy

[worn jacinth]

In sweden we have like an idiot incurance. Best way to descibe it 🙂 that allows user to build computers demselfs. Under warranty. Follow instructions and the warranty is legal

[frosty mulch]

thats cool tbh

we don't have that here.. broken is ur cost.

the inscurance will give some money back but not all

[worn jacinth]

Thats bad. As long as you follow the instructions and "precations "Spelling? you have the right on your side

the manufactorer has tho prove you did something wrong to not follow ther warranty

htt:?=ps://www.sweclockers.com/test/33726-intel-core-i5-12400f-som-gjord-for-prismedveten-spelprestanda

Test in swden in swedish what the 12400 can do in real life situations.

[dark walrus]

Ok

You guys have been an awesome help

You guys have blessed me with your knowledge to help me

[worn jacinth]

Want my help? Or found someone else. Juist want to know 🙂

[dark walrus]

No I want your help too

I didn’t find someone

I was just thanking you guys

[frosty mulch]

no worries :D

[white sequoia]

Following instructions should always keep a warranty not void

[worn jacinth]

You are totaly right. But the laws in sweden are in favor for consumors. The costumer is allways right is a saying here. we dont have to prove anything. Hope i spelled that right and you understand. he he.

[white sequoia]

Ah

Wish the US did that

[analog radish]

hey everyone! could i have opinions on this please? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/NomPCPP/saved/#view=pk8JnQ

[next relic]

Looks decent! I personally would go with a CPU from the 5000 series since they're newer.

[frosty mulch]

very nice, but indeed as the person above me said, 5000 series would be nice

[analog radish]

are they a lot more expensive than the CPU i have in that build?

[noble oak]

Get a 5000 Ryzen. You can cheap out on the motherboard now that AM4 is ending it's career and so you probably aren't gonna be upgrading to an AM4 CPU.
And you should get a beefier PSU. That 550W ain't gonna last long.

[analog radish]

how much extra money are we talking here

[noble oak]

I will take a look in a moment.

[analog radish]

because if the build i put together is fine, i'm happy with it being fine, if the 550 lasts a year or whatever thats fine

[noble oak]

@analog radishDo you need WiFi?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cLxPsL

Take a look at this.

[frosty mulch]

it isn't abt year time. you will consume more power than the psu actually can

[frosty mulch]

i would personally don't take a micro atx mb just because of astetics but for the rest it looks great

[noble oak]

You can then go with this.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4gfCyK

Actually that's even better. Almost the same price.

[frosty mulch]

yeah thats good

i can actually share my built, it isn't the best in value but it is alr

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/Mortaja/saved/K3LMVn

[analog radish]

wait yeah, this is cheaper... but better?...

[frosty mulch]

it surely is

[analog radish]

crazy!

[frosty mulch]

a better cpu + a better psu

just the mb we degraded a bit but believe me. u won't use all the things that is on the mb

like this b550 is moooorrreee than enough

[analog radish]

it has this warning at the bottom, is that not an issue?

[noble oak]

Those older Ryzens not going down in price, kinda stupid.

[frosty mulch]

nahhh just an update

[noble oak]

No, you will be fine.

[analog radish]

oh, okay, thank you for the advice!

[noble oak]

👍

[white sequoia]

Basically, its saying if u bought that motherboard with an older manufacturing date (such as used) it may need a software update

[frosty mulch]

wait flare if i upgrade to win11 should i update my mb too?

[noble oak]

No.

[frosty mulch]

alr

[glacial gale]

Some of the BIOS updates are also super easy if the MOBO supports "Bios Flashback". This allows you to download the BIOS update ahead of time onto a USB Drive and update the New MOBO Bios without a CPU present. They allot one of the Rear IO USB for this option (IF THE BOARD SUPPORTS BIOS FLASHBACK). I had the thing happen with my "X570 AORUS PRO WIFI" board paired with my R7-5800x.

[frosty mulch]

i once bricked my mb by just updating via msi dragon center

but it took too long so i shut my pc off

i thought it is like an windows update and that u can shut it off whithout anything happening

but i got it back alive tho

[glacial gale]

RIP

[white sequoia]

Since when could u do that in windows update?

[frosty mulch]

it doesn't really matter if u turn it off or not. there is always a backup

it isn't smart, but not a huge problem

[white sequoia]

Yeah it does, u can mess up the updater

It says do not turn off ur pc for a reason

[frosty mulch]

yeah true

but the point is, don't turn off ur mb update

[glacial gale]

Hm..

[analog radish]

ngl my brain turns off reading this, this is my very first pc build and i know nothing about this kind of stuff lmao

[glacial gale]

It means there is possibly a way to fix the issue with compatibility, if it happens to arise.

[glacial gale]

While being incredibly easy and affordable.

[analog radish]

okay, with this build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4gfCyK

would... there be an issue?

because i'd love for there not be one i even need to fix if possible! haha

[glacial gale]

It's not GUARENTEED to be or NOT to be an issue. It really depends on when the MOBO left the factory and if it had the newer or older BIOS loaded onto it.

[analog radish]

damn

so a dice roll? i just need to hope for the best?

[glacial gale]

Pretty much. It's "easy as" to update it though.

[analog radish]

okay! thats reassuring, whats the indication of if it needs updating? it'll say like 'bios needs updating' or something?

[glacial gale]

It may (depending on manufacturer). When you get the parts in you should bench test the computer parts to make sure they're all working. This is done before putting them all inside the Computer Case, so that IF you get a defective part you don't have to rip it all apart to RMA it. But while you're bench testing them it may POST or Power cycle (again different from manufacturer to manufacturer), it may tell you that it needs an update or that it's not recognizing that the/a CPU is present.

[glacial gale]

I'll link you a video/

[glacial gale]

Check your DM's

[analog radish]

thank you!

so this has all been about updating your bios without a cpu right?...

what if i have a cpu? because i intend to order everything at once

[glacial gale]

Yes, however that is because even with the CPU installed in the socket, the BIOS/MOBO cannot communicate with the CPU. So whether or not the CPU is in the Socket of the MOBO or not you should be able to do the update with the USB.

NORMALLY this would all have to be done with a CPU that is recognized by the BIOS/MOBO and that's what I meant by without a CPU. I apologize for misleading you.

[analog radish]

okay... what are the chances of me needing to do any of this with my build?

[glacial gale]

50/50 (:

[analog radish]

-_-

[glacial gale]

Probably 25% that you have to do this, as Ryzen Zen 3 (5000 series) CPU's are becoming older/more mature, these BIOS revisions are most likely already being sent out. (ei: It's 2022)

[analog radish]

okay... thats better haha

[glacial gale]

You got this.

[analog radish]

i'm sure if anything goes awry i'll be back here!

[glacial gale]

Exactly.

[analog radish]

have time off work early march so i plan to order everything before my time off, and build it during!

it's my first every pc build and as you can tell i'm not very knowledgable haha

[glacial gale]

Make sure you do progress pictures: Before and After.

[glacial gale]

It's a lot of fun building your own.

Plenty of tutorials online to help guide you and give you ideas.

[analog radish]

i just realised, do i need anything for wire management or will the pc case have that built in?

[glacial gale]

4" Zip ties or Velcro strap will be your friend/

[glacial gale]

Most newer cases have some sort of cable management tie-off points.

[analog radish]

the amazon listing for the cooler master case says 'cable management' so i assume i should be good not buying anything extra?

[glacial gale]

They send some generic things with, but ordering 50x ZipTies wouldn't be a bad investment.

[analog radish]

what about thermal paste? i asked a friend and they said the CPU usually comes with some

[glacial gale]

Check the "Arctic Feezer 34" Cooler you have picked out. Sometimes cooler manufacturers send Paste with the cooler.

[analog radish]

seems to! they hide that it does all the way at the bottom for some reason but it does! i think

[glacial gale]

You may want to recheck some of your item's on the PCPartPicker list, there are a few more physical limitations that may occur with that cooler. Most being height requirements for the RAM you have selected and/or mounting hardware that may not work with the MOBO you have selected.

You can see this about half way down the page on with the link you sent. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4gfCyK

[noble oak]

@everyone

[crimson scroll]

don't try to do that

[quasi notch]

I need a better gpu than my 960 but I don’t know a good priced one

[quasi notch]

Get a different psu that’s o r of the parts you don’t want to cheap out on and a better cpu

[quasi notch]

Your to young to be on discord💀

[noble oak]

Are you seriously saying he is cheaping out on Seasonic?

That's like saying that buying a low end Lamborghini is cheaping out on a car.

[jolly plaza]

Hey I was wondering if I could get a little help with my pcpartpicker list. I just want to know if all the parts I’ve chosen are compatible with each other. I’m already aware of the usb compatibility issue flagged by the website which doesn’t really bother me

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Katara1204/saved/#view=hqV74D

[noble oak]

@jolly plaza I see nothing wrong with it.
Other than you are probably better off with a different PSU. No reason to overpay to ASUS especially when it will be hidden behind the shroud anyway.

The monitor will include a DP cable. And Rival 5 > Rival 600.

[quasi notch]

No I’m just saying that I’ve tried that and it’s not as good as it can be

[noble oak]

Hmm alright.

I am using Seasonic Prime 1300 platinum

But it's a different league

[jolly plaza]

Fair enough

Thanks

[glacial gale]

The Seasonic Gold 80+ is a great option for the money. 10 Year warranty. He's gud.

[glacial gale]

Also one of the better consumer CPU's on the market.

[sly ravine]

6C 12T is more than enough bang for buck for gaming and plenty for basic streaming. My 3600 does everything I need and more

[quasi notch]

Personal experience Ig

[glacial gale]

Ok sorry you had bad experiences.

[maiden thicket]

So I'm trying to build my first system and trying to decide on ram, and I've come down to these two options. Can anyone actually tell me the difference?

Ah no links, right.

VENGEANCE RGB PRO SL 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C18 Memory Kit

or

VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C18 Memory Kit

I've found the SL for $15AUD cheaper

And I'm not really seeing much difference between the two since I'm new

[noble oak]

@maiden thicketSL are the same modules but shorter.

They will perform the same.

[queen violet]

If you can, get some crucial ballistix 3600 cl16

[maiden thicket]

Reasons? Actually ends up being cheaper but no RGB

[queen violet]

Faster

And Overclocking potential if you want.

[maiden thicket]

How so faster?

[queen violet]

Clock speed is the same

However

The xmp timings are much tighter

So the overall latency, and individual latency between actions is lower.

Being slower, the Corsair cl18 kit is also binned lower, meaning you’ll likely get weaker ic’s(ram chips) which will give you a lower Overclocking potential

[queen violet]

Did that explain well enough?

[maiden thicket]

Oh I see

Yes that was great thanks 🙂

So how do you tell about the xmp timings?

Is it the CAS latency or the extended timings?

[queen violet]

Xmp values nearly all primary and secondary timings

The primary timings are often quoted on the website and sticks themselves

For the crucial kits it’s something like 16-16-16-16-38

For this kit it is 16-18-18-18-36

The secondaries are never usually quoted, however they tend to follow the primaries, ie, the lower the primaries, the lower the secondaries.

[maiden thicket]

So you want shorter numbers for timings yes? @queen violet

That's why its quicker than the corsair one? Because that one is 18-19-19-39

[queen violet]

Lower yes

[queen violet]

Indeed

[white sequoia]

Crucial is great for getting ram with no rgb

[visual minnow]

hack

[maiden thicket]

Is ASrock a reputable brand for mobos?

[fleet tangle]

can you guys help me to buy pc fo valorant to have like 200fps budget 1400$

[noble oak]

Do you need one right now or can you wait for a month or 2?

[fleet tangle]

can wait

[noble oak]

GPU crisis still ongoing. So you will be overpaying for a GPU regardless for which one you will go. So i suggest waiting it out.

I will make a list for you for all other parts in the meantime.

Do you want RGB and do you have a preferred brand?

@pushinP#1850

Did he seriously leave?

@fleet tangle

Discord trolling again 🤦‍♂️

[fleet tangle]

just

i dont need rgb