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i'm trying to overclock and undervolt as much as i can bois does not allow for it or idk wtf the options mean
Use bios instead
who can make for me custom build pc for gaming and streaming for 2000$
Only the ryzen x series are unlocked right?
If that is right, then your cpu cant be overclocked
Because it is a 3600, not 3600x
Huh?
Not quite, you're thinking of the K with Intel. They can both be overclocked.
Oh right I get you, no X series are just slightly better binned, and run at a higher clock when stock
All amd CPUās and motherboards(apart from A series but who uses that) are unlocked
Ah
Sorta, just run stock higher and are usually capable of higher overclock.
tyty
got you
nie da sie do 200zl brawl starsie walony
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@frosty mulch u cant do pc for 200pln brawls stars fucking kid
Bruh
i want do to pc for 1100usd somebody (980 euro)
english
Any thoughts? Will it be alright?
You can go to PCbuilder and plug in the part and it will tell you if they are all compatible. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbuilder/
Its what I used to build mine.
Well itās a prebuild so I assume they are compatible
No worries bro I should have said that
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My first pc so Iām not quite ready to build my own
Yeah, totally get that.
@noble oak polski jest piÄkny mordo chcesz spierdoliÅ
like alan said. english only
pin this
Cringe
idk even what it means.
;3
@mystic cedar lets be here
some razer products are like
why
and some are actually pretty gud
ehhh still depends
some are good
some not
razer doesn't like consistency for some reason
but you wanted a pc @mystic cedar
can i ask for what use?
i'll try to make one for ya
that's what this channel is for lol
think he said 2000 pounds
without monitor etc
oh ye what games do you play btw
1500-2000 and they need everything
it's fun no worries
you won't be doing nothing, there's still input to be had
here imma send you smthn rq
so budget around 1700 lets say?
for kb
and what mouse grip do you use
ah so all
the mouse i use is useable with all grips but it's pretty expensive
oh yea
forgot
for kb over all i'd recommend a apex 7/apex pro
that's not because this is a steel series kb i just love them
they're great
ok i made one
but i think only motherboard could be changed cus it is expensive
idk the new motherboards
who wants to hear smthn cursed
this is my mobo
with a ryzen 5 3600
and radeon rx 5600xt
sapphire
my mobo and barely keep up with those parts
it's dyin out here
lol
i feel that
oooooffff
what u think of the build @mystic cedar
i think motherboard is too expensive
i only know it is good
idk other motherboard for the new intels
nice
damn
we have same cpu, mobo andwe both have a 3070
you have better ram tho
What cooler and temps do you get?
i got the h100i
and also i bought the case with the least airflow
i was dumb back then and the people i asked didnt help
same mobo lmao
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bro check md pls
decent
ty
tyty
I'm Turkish and the computer I used to save so much money was ryzen5 1600. I said I'd buy a video card later and bought it and the dollar became 14 TL and I'm using the r7 240 and I'm still saving money here rtx3090 98.000TL so mega bruh moment
google translate -_-
ah damn that sucks 
i managed to get my gpu at a decent price luckily
took a while of waiting though
I've given up on the computer dream now because everything you put in your hands is so expensive, now they tax our breath, now my computer is in the very good class in this country and in the ryzen class 5 1600 r7 240 so this system
It's a very sad situation and I mean I grew up in this country and I want to leave this country and I've been living here since I was born šŖ
this is not a country to live in anymore, really but really unfortunately
What country?
Turkey
Ah
ah jeez that really sucks :/
Yeah bro im sorry...
No problem
This is really scary. I am 13 years old and working. I waited a year for the system and bought a processor. One good thing is, I was saving up for a CPU graphics card but I can't buy anything from here as the market is like that. They are replacing the video card of the car.
google translate is translating some things wrong sorry
pc 2500lei?
Yup its so baddddddd bende türküm aq
ama ƶyle injar etme yup
English only
sorry
@gleaming compass aha türk
I am turkish
lel
You've been here long enough, you should know better than to pull this kind of stuff
Wrong place and we don't get political
.
English only
@sweet spear please stay on topic :)
Intel Xeon :)
wrong channel
What's the right channel for scams lol
there isn't one
last warning, stay on topic
upgrade to 16GB RAM, that 4GB you have is probably the biggest source of "lag".
also it's a HP laptop with an i3 I wouldn't expect much from it to begin with.
Ask jaystwocents i guess
Did you recently fill it?
Youāll probably need to bleed it
Youāll need to tip the case around until that big bubble has moved to somewhere that you can release it safely.
designing/building systems with fill valves at easily accessible points is a glorious thing that is unfortunately oft overlooked.
is overclocking good?
depends on a lot of things
can you help me with oveclock my ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1050 ti?
I don't do overclocking so you'd have to ask someone else here. @queen violet might be able to help you
@queen violet can you help me?
Sure
I'd start with your gpu first
How can i overclock it?
use the msi afterburner overclock utility
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Not a pc but time for stab rattle to cease to exist
wtf this pc socks
Just... make sure you have a syringe
.
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@half fable ban this guy pls
U arent supposed to ping them tho...
uh
ur meant to dm, but dont delete the message cause ghost pings are even more annoying
Would a brush work?
not effectively
If you want it, nobody else can say
im a man of culture
hey im looking for some advice/ help on building my first pc not exactly sure where to start
Use pcpartpicker as a way of creating a list
It will tell you what you need and what is compatible, as well as where to get stuff cheapest
any advice on the video card im looking through and im not sure if i should get 4gb or 6gb
6gb is ideal for 1080p
4gb can cause some issues depending on the games you play
The GpU itself matters a lot tho
@queen violet could i dm you for a second?
guys is good i7 9700f rtx 3060 ti 32GB ram?
10 yrs too late
i think the 11400f is a better cpu lol
Use a newer cpu for that gpu
10700kf probably goes for a lower price nowadays
12700k $300 at mc
Sure
damn
No, 2x Xeon, rtx 3090, 64 gb
Sounds like a wonderfull way to massively increase your power bill
good cheap mechanical red keyboards with no num pad recommendations anyone??
mechanical blues are also fine
Keychron whateverwithoutnumpad
Is this weird?
I would say the n word but not the f word if i were to choose
Wait wrong channel
What on earth?
Yes that is weird, and why would you tell anyone that
Don't worry i have never sworn before
thats uh...dont say either
red dragon k552; good? not particularly. awful? not particularly. Cheap? Very.
the one i have rn is some fake mechanical keyboards
the box said mechanical feel and not mechanical
i got scammed
:(
mine is some chinese fake stuff
red dragon seems relatively cheap ngl
what abt the quality??
red dragons are good, not the best but very good for the price
always check to see switch type. If it doesn't specifically say "cherry MX - compatible" or specify "Red/Blue/Brown" or some other switch color (the colors indicate the type and properties of the switch) then it's not mechanical.
Havit is another good brand for cheap
And of course Corsair makes decent cheap mechanical keyboards as well
the box said brown but not cherry mx
on the "mechanical feel" one? I could see someone marketing a membrane that way, kinda shady tho
hows this
thermal paste doesnt seem neccessary, since it should come pre applied to cooler, unless im wrong about that
also, you need a gpu
ryzen x does not have an igpu
change ram to crucial ballistix 3600mhz cl16
not relevant
Already have gpu thatās why I didnāt include in build, itās a gigabyte 1070 ti
And yeah the thermal paste isnāt needed the ryzen has pre paste
Oh I didnāt know that thanks
im building a pc and I was wondering if there were any motherboards other than the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming II that would work well with the Phanteks ethno 719 tower case. does anyone know?
Suggestions for a micro ATX board for the i5 12600k?
Mini ATX would also work i guess
5800x + RTX 3080
would not bottle neck right
I have read saying its a really good combo some saying it is not a good combo
Perfectly good combo
Just make sure you get a good cooler for the 5800x(itās hot)
Seems like a good combo
You could also got for 12th gen intel if you want
12th gen intel cpus are good value, but motherboards are super expensive
Even ddr4 mobos
Yes, very good
very hot
thermal paste
Rip my SSD just 4TB write and 5 years of use
:/
Ouch
nobody can tell me that SSD dont just randomly fail
good thing their was only rasbianOS on
They do
And the smaller the ssd is, the more likely and sooner it will break.
Because each memory cell is re-written/read more times than an equivalent cell for a larger model. Hence why 2tb and 4th SSDās often have much larger rated endurances than 500-1tb ssdās
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depends on how many reads/writes occur, i have a 250GB SSD and its still 100% good
after 2 years of heavy gaming
Makes sense, as far as Iām aware reads arenāt as damaging for an ssd.
If your not writing a lot then an ssd should last a ping while.
It also does depend on the nand cells used.
not sure what Kingston uses in the 250GB SSDs but they sure are strong if thats the case
crucial ballistix 3600cl16 is $80
better than the corsair ram you've got
h510 elite is a furnace
i'd recommend a more airflow focused case
gtx 1080 non ti vs rx 6600xt
i thought 1080 would have a clean sweep but game performance tests in yt say 6600xt is the clear winner
they were using dx 12 for testing maybe thats why
the 1080 is simply an inferior raw performing GPU
a 1080Ti is a closer comparison
M die is the best
so if were going to buy 2nd hand 1080 or first hand 6600xt 6600xt is the obvious choice??
at the same price?
like, yeah, if you can afford the 6600XT then it's a far better choice
I thought I said not to do that @smoky breach
Same goes to you @cold bane no politics, this is your one warning
Broi this is a joke ... Watch YouTube it's a friendly joke lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2d3gdD hereās the build I got the 0.00 stuff as gifts and Iāll just stick with the ram for preference
also would recommend the arctic liquid freezer II 280 over that aio
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Also what does this mean? āThe ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard.ā
it means exactly what it says
different cpu generations have different ihs sizes and shapes
so you might need an adapter to mount the cooler properly
contact arctic and they'll probably give it to you for free
ram is just quite bad on its own, has nothing to do with preference tho..
for the rest build isnt great either tbh
there's certainly preference in how ram looks
It needs a different mounting bracket to fit the LGA1700 socket because intel is mean
AMD doesnt have this because they have been using AM4 for years
did you order parts already?
The ones that say 0.00 I already have
So like recently purchased
Quite sure yes
prob need to flash bios tho
Iāve been looking at asus and Msi as well for motherboards Iām not quite set on one yet
Yeah that was one of my top choices
For asus it was the prime z690
And for gigabyte it was the z690 DDR4
oh
Series x or 500$ prebuilt?
I'd say PS5 is preferable but otherwise the series X
500 wont get u a good gaming pc
what about a prebuilt
that's the same thing
mmm crap
I like the accessibility of a pc more than xbox
could a prebuilt handle games like dead by daylight,fortnite,minecraft
plus I cant find the series x anywhere
totally dependant on the prebuilt spec
could I find a prebuilt and send a ss?
feel free
most system integrators have their faults, build redux seems like a better option
build redux?
look it up
Oh my jesus god
1300$
uh
well
800 more dollars over budget
I mean
Its possible
What specs should I get if I want games to run pretty good with good graphics?
that's very vague
I see
Can a 1k pc solve my wants?
And is game storages like game storage smaller on pc?
?
can you clarify what you mean by this
and you should also specify resolution
but fortnite and apex are esports titles and fairly easy to get running
right now, except for the gpu, sure
and like if I were to downlaod r6 siege on xbox it would be 60 gigs and on pc like 40 gigs
like that
you could build a pc at $1k that would play those titles
At 120 or above fps?
i would think game size is less optimized on pc usually
120 fps atleast,1080p basically next gen graphics
that can handle dead by daylight,warzone,minecraft,cod,fortnite ect
you're not gonna get "next gen graphics"
yeah
Would that deliver next gen graphics?
it would play those titles at ultra settings 120fps 1080p, yes
if that's what you mean by next gen
basically im looking for
eye candy competitive pc
like that
I cant give specifications as I have 0 knowledge in pcs
i think you should start with budget first
how much money can you reasonably afford to spend on this pc
you can get a pretty top of the line pc for gaming with that
if you expect to keep that same timeline for earnings, then it's not a good idea to part out now
prices change in 6+ months
higher or lower in price changes?
if i could tell you that, i'd be a millionaire
flip a coin
In your opinion would it go up or down in 5+ months
i have no idea
it doesn't matter since you don't have the money for the pc right now anyways
if by good, you mean it'll get you your eyecandy pc, then yes
what about the fps?
yes
120+?
yes
i mean
i can send you something that's 1700 now
but that's no guarantee of what it'll be in the future when you also buy
Alr
which is why i said parting out now doesn't make a ton of sense
uh
the parametric filters work but aren't the best
look up some linus tech tips intro building videos then
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so if my budget is 1700 how should I distribute prices
most of your money in the gpu and cpu
what do those do
it will be much better if you watch a video explaining everything
and should I get like a terabyte of storage?
at least
What's the usual storage take for a game?
depends on the game
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decent overview of what each part does, although the recommendations are dated
eh
that cpu is two generations old
also this site doesn't specify a lot of specs
every brand has good and bad components
the cpu cooler will come with thermal paste, yes
the data in ram is not saved after your computer powers off
the data in a hard drive or ssd is
So ram clears and memory saves?
ram is memory
not really
the MORE ram you have the more stuff you can have open
more ram isn't necessarily better
I suppose
What are recommended brands for graphics and CPUs or the important things
Or like each brand for each item you would reccomend?
again that's pretty variable because every company makes good and bad stuff
This is different...for sure
in terms of cpus and gpus though, there's only three real companies that make anything
intel, amd, and nvidia
so it's not like you have a choice outside of those three really
Stupid question but does rgb heat up your pc faster?
there are some rgb ssds that have overheating issues
Nice to know.
but any decent rgb strip shouldn't be very hot
in general if you don't try to home wire something it'll be fine
Graphics card is a GPU right?
yeah
and question, what are those bottom 3 items in my pc list
On the photo in build redux
power supply, motherboard, pcie wifi add-in card
What should I splurge on out of the build?
cpu and gpu should be the most expensive
What about motherboard?
eh
That seems most important...right?
past a certain point, it doesn't make a big difference unless you have a very specific use case
What does it affect?
power delivery to the cpu mostly
So it reduces heat?
you don't need to worry about most of the features
indirectly reduces heat, yeah
better vrms will do that
Vrm?
voltage regulator module
the thing that controls power delivery
you know anything about engines?
you know the concept of efficiency
So would this be accurate spending?
CPU-370
GPU-660
RAM-90
Storage-140
Fans-100
Case-110
Power supply-85
Motherboard-210
Wifi-35
you probably should not spend that much on fans
unless you're including cpu cooling in there
depends on if you go for RGB or not
Rgb yes
Isn't that normal?
CPU cooling is needed right
yes
so is that with the fans or no?
it's really relative to the cpu you buy
The brand?
anywhere from 60 to 120 i'd consider reasonable for a cpu that's $300
technically a tower cooler or aio water system would be it's own purchase, but both usually include their own fans. Depending on the case (which also can come with fans) you'll have anywhere from 1 to 4 fans that aren't directly related to the CPU. Some have more but that's getting into overkill territory.
yeah
just a random thing to mention haha
those are a big project and not really suitable for a beginner build
I was just saying that I never thought stuff like that was possible
So I should have like 4 fans in total?
depends on the case
ah right
and the cooler
How much are coolers?
For what I'm trying to build
like i said, there are coolers in the 60-120 range that would be good for a cpu i'd expect you to get at 300
no
60-120 for the cooler
300 for the cpu
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yes
So I've noticed pc is like a big clunky puzzle
You need a certain piece for a certain purpose
Is that about right?
yeah
Alright
So would this be accurate spending?
CPU-370
GPU-660
RAM-90
Storage-140
Fans-40
Cooling-80
Case-110
Power supply-85
Motherboard-210
Wifi-35
That better?
Changed the fans and cooling from each other
That's more accurate I believe
I gotcha
Higher I'm guessing?haha
So is anything in there overkill?
For like price ranges ect
you could spend less on the cpu, motherboard, and ram and put it towards the gpu
So a ranking for price would go like this
check if you have a microcenter near you
yeah
it's fine
More like 320 cpu?
sure
seems reasonable
I thought I lowballed on the motherboard haha
My pc nerd friend mentioned something about cores?
Like 4 cores 8 cores 16 cores
yeah, cpus have cores
what do you mean
Like,what is the cpu
did you watch the video i linked a while ago?
In a car rn so never got the chance
i'd watch that
let's not get too wild
I'll see what I can come up with and send you what I got?
I gotcha
so a list now can give you a decent idea of what to expect but i wouldn't use it without updating it when you actually do buy
Right
So I have to buy,A case,wifi thing,4 fans,cooling,cpu,gpu,motherboard,ram,storage
that it?
Power supply,right
not necessarily four fans
and wifi is dependent on if you have a wired connection available or not
but yes
the pcpp site has sections for all of those
I do have a wired connection
Wifi also comes built into a lot of MoBos these days anyway
How many fans would you recommend
depends on the case
And what cooling system should I use?the cheap and effective I mean
Depends on case and cooler, those are the last thing I'd look at
Air towers can be cheaper but AIOs look nicer. both have ups and downs.
Watch the videos first to get an understanding before picking parts š much easier once you have a basic idea of what does what
Oh it explains this stuff?
Like the built in graphics and stuff
SMT ecc support
Socket
Core family
They should cover the basics
a lot of what you just listed doesn't matter a whole lot and the part picker will make sure it's all compatible anyway\
you don't need to know the specifics of how a cpu works
I think this stuff matters
I thought these settings were everything
for consumers, you want to look at the ryzen line from amd and the core i line from intel
Shouldnt the start be like 8 cores or so?
nah
1 core could run what I need?
no lol
it's easier to just say what matters: Brand, Core Count, Clock Speed. That's pretty much it. Integrated graphics can be nice but not necessary if you have a GPU anyway
Thank you
but if you pick up a modern medium-high end cpu then it'll have the cores and power necessary for what you want
So for a cpu i7 would be good?
yep
depends on which one
Right..
9th gen or newer, ideally 11th-12th gen
no
this is alot to take in
I will persevere and show you a badass pc at the end thougj
not always, but generally
past a certain point, it doesn't matter how big the number is
you won't notice a difference
it's like how having a million dollars is way better than a thousand dollars
but will you notice the difference between two million and three million? probably not
it's fine but it's an older cpu
not a good price/performance ratio
try 11900 or 12900 (hint: the first 1-2 numbers is the generation, 9 is the model and everything after is more specific stuff)
not worth
Too expensive or not good
worse performance than the 10900k in some scenarios
depends on the price, but 5600x/5800x with refresh, 12600k, 12700k, 11600k
My budget is ideally 1800
that's roughly what you're looking at with your budget
comments will usually tell you if it's a good price for the component or not
What's the difference between amd and the I brand?
so they are the same?
Intel vs AMD. the argument of the ages. AMD used to be better at having a lot of little cores and Intel was good at less cores but faster. Nowadays it's mostly preference.
they're very different
So AMD is for small builds and Intel is for bigger builds?
no
then...what's the difference
effective marketing on you though
both eventually do the same
yeah
i mean, you're asking the difference between any product in a market made by different manufacturers
but they honestly look and seem the same
I dunno if I'm just stupid or if I generally dont notice a difference
in end results yes in method and function no not really
two people are pizza makers
they both make pizza
are they the same? no
they're very different
but the pizza is pretty similar
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
do you care about the technique?
I get it
or do you care about how it tastes in the end
It eventually comes out the same
as a consumer
nice demonstration
What's a better brand for my soon to be pimped out graphics card
or does it not matter
right now it's whatever you can actually buy at a reasonable price
supply is very low
Why is there such a sudden supply spike?
i'd try to get a 3080 or 3070 from best buy for 700 or 500
nearest best buy is like
because i have the patience to not pay scalper prices
scalper prices being 50% to 100% extra of msrp
yeah
Atleast we meet there on the same page...jesus
So technically Intel would be better for a NVIDIA?
That's just the common pairing
oh that doesn't matter?
not really
intel has had fantastic marketing for a long time to convince everybody that they're better than amd
and for a long time they were
right now intel and amd are about equal
amd comes out with a generation that beats intel, intel comes out with a generation that beats amd
two years ago amd was kicking intel's butt
Google has told me since intel having less cores is better because of some clock speed thing
no idea
is this statement correct or no
that used to be the case. not so much anymore
so it generally doesn't matter what I pick
because rn it doesn't seem it matters
one has more cores but less clock speed
Speaking of
What is clock speed?
nope, I would pick based on comparative performance for the price
that's how fast an individual core can process tasks
I get it now
One has small cores that does the same job as 3 big cores
I understand now
whatd I miss
what gen do I need to run new games
just worry about what performance you want by watching reviews
then figure out which cpu delivers that
there's no "minimum" gen you need to run games
going with amd
this. buy based on review and comparison, not raw specs
lol
now what gen to buy
that is a bad mentality imo
I was meaning to be sarcastic haha
ok good
Apologies if I cant really sound it here
But a few people said amd based on some complicated spiderman computer stuff
eh
so I'll sum it up here
pure gaming performance right now, intel 12th gen barely edges out amd 4th gen
at equivalent tiers of product
that's 12th gen, yes
either intel 12th or amd 4th
skipped a few series lol
there are also frequently deals on others
which is why i mentioned earlier something like the 11600k might be a good choice
eh
f just means no integrated graphics for intel cpus
it's nice for troubleshooting
nobody spending 1800 on a pc is gonna use integrated graphics to game
there's also some benefits for using the igpu to accelerate some tasks
but not for gaming
Lemme change my copy list rq
To add up at the end
mb
So would this be accurate spending?
CPU-230
GPU-660
RAM-90
Storage-140
Fans-100
Case-110
Power supply-85
Motherboard-210
Wifi-35
next is the gpu
NVIDIA here right?
or amd
just depends on what cpu you choose
masterliquid?
it'll put out a certain amount of heat
so you need a cpu that can dissipate that amount of heat at a reasonable rate
or justin bieber
please get the joke
please.
forget the joke
so my cpu is good for this right?
what cpu
the 11600k
yeah
kinda
what's the main thing?
I gotcha
my friend who has a 1k pc said he runs fortnite at 150 and minecraft at over 1k
fps
so what's his big difference
depends on his settings and his build
Right
seems like he overspent on cpu and gpu imo
I know jack about pcs but I think from that he did
because his pc you can hear from the mic sometimes
so...I think his cooling is underwhelming
right or wrong?
i'm actually going to bed
Is this just a random or is there certain brands
oh alt
alr
I'll watch those vids
thank you very much fine man.
I hope you have a lucid dream as bill gates
just send the link instead of screenshots
that's the only 2 I have
google and reddit say a 300 dollar motherboard is good for the i5
kind of excessive
right
So I saved that for here
And I believe the cooling is fine
Reviews were good
Also
Should I upgrade to an i7 for 100$?
Or is it not worth
no
yeah
should I filter that?
No other parts have to fit your motherboard
I usually build with AMD (the motherboards have Am4 sockets for cpu)
Usually everything else should be able to fit nicely if you get a motherboard and parts that came out within the last few years or so
Also depending on the cpu and if youāre wanting to overclock you wonāt need to buy a cooler (unless you got a lot of money to spend)
I'm using Intel
Stock cooling will do well for the most part as long as you donāt overclock stuff
Then itās just the same thing except different socket
Thanks for that info
Do motherboards have to be compatible with the cpu?
yes
Like sockets?
Do the tires have to fit on the car?
(Yes)
Lol Iām just busting your back
Yep so you need the intel socket
My cpu cooling is fine...or is it horrible
I prefer Noctua
Iāve never used water cooling before
I like air cooling cause itās cheaper but I bet thereās videos on how to install water coolers
Water cooling I heard is quieter
Because you wouldn't use a desk fan to cool off a fire
;)
Usually there isnāt much of a difference if you get a good fan
water cooling has fans