#šŸ’»-building-a-pc

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lucid fog
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WTF do i trust

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i'm trying to overclock and undervolt as much as i can bois does not allow for it or idk wtf the options mean

queen violet
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Use bios instead

noble oak
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who can make for me custom build pc for gaming and streaming for 2000$

white sequoia
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Only the ryzen x series are unlocked right?

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If that is right, then your cpu cant be overclocked

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Because it is a 3600, not 3600x

queen violet
raw marsh
queen violet
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Oh right I get you, no X series are just slightly better binned, and run at a higher clock when stock

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All amd CPU’s and motherboards(apart from A series but who uses that) are unlocked

white sequoia
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Ah

frosty mulch
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isnt it that if they have x they kinda factory overclocked

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a bit

queen violet
noble oak
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zbudujcie mi laptopa do 200zl

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pls

frosty mulch
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stop bro

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@hearty ravine switch channel

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bro stop.

hearty ravine
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tyty

frosty mulch
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got you

frosty leaf
frosty mulch
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English please

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i want to understand the joke :(

noble oak
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a

noble oak
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@frosty mulch u cant do pc for 200pln brawls stars fucking kid

raw marsh
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Bruh

noble oak
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i want do to pc for 1100usd somebody (980 euro)

noble oak
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fajny

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who can make for me custom build pc for gaming and streaming for 2000$

noble oak
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XDD

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oki

frosty mulch
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english

static pecan
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Please only type in English in the server. Read #rules

noble oak
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Any thoughts? Will it be alright?

raw marsh
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I'm sure it would

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Depends on the price tho

noble oak
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1600 plus tax

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😶

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Canadian dollars

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Pretty sure it’ll be 1900 including taxes

cosmic current
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Its what I used to build mine.

noble oak
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Well it’s a prebuild so I assume they are compatible

cosmic current
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Ohhh

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Sorry by bad

noble oak
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No worries bro I should have said that

cosmic current
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šŸ‘

noble oak
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My first pc so I’m not quite ready to build my own

cosmic current
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Yeah, totally get that.

tacit tapir
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@noble oak polski jest piękny mordo chcesz spierdolił

crimson scroll
smoky breach
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pin this

raw marsh
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Cringe

frosty mulch
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idk even what it means.

winter sorrel
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;3

frosty mulch
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@mystic cedar lets be here

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some razer products are like

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why

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and some are actually pretty gud

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ehhh still depends

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some are good

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some not

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razer doesn't like consistency for some reason

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but you wanted a pc @mystic cedar

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can i ask for what use?

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i'll try to make one for ya

crimson scroll
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that's what this channel is for lol

wise ginkgo
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and part picking a pc is more fun than building it imo

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so

frosty mulch
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budget was?

wise ginkgo
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think he said 2000 pounds

frosty mulch
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without monitor etc

wise ginkgo
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oh ye what games do you play btw

crimson scroll
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1500-2000 and they need everything

frosty mulch
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it's fun no worries

crimson scroll
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you won't be doing nothing, there's still input to be had

wise ginkgo
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here imma send you smthn rq

frosty mulch
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so budget around 1700 lets say?

wise ginkgo
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for kb

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and what mouse grip do you use

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ah so all

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the mouse i use is useable with all grips but it's pretty expensive

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oh yea

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forgot

frosty mulch
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pfff gpu prices are still high

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im so happy i bought mine cheap

wise ginkgo
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for kb over all i'd recommend a apex 7/apex pro

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that's not because this is a steel series kb i just love them

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they're great

frosty mulch
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ok i made one

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but i think only motherboard could be changed cus it is expensive

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idk the new motherboards

wise ginkgo
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who wants to hear smthn cursed

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this is my mobo

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with a ryzen 5 3600
and radeon rx 5600xt

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sapphire

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my mobo and barely keep up with those parts

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it's dyin out here

frosty mulch
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this is mine

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don't talk abt my ram pls

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iknow iknow

cosmic current
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lol

wise ginkgo
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i feel that

frosty mulch
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oooooffff

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what u think of the build @mystic cedar

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i think motherboard is too expensive

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i only know it is good

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idk other motherboard for the new intels

queen violet
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Mine right now

cosmic current
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nice

queen violet
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Wait a second

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That’s not my build šŸ˜‚

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That’s my one

smoky breach
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you have better ram tho

queen violet
smoky breach
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i got the h100i
and also i bought the case with the least airflow

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i was dumb back then and the people i asked didnt help

frosty mulch
sturdy comet
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big ddumb

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@pulsar fossil

pulsar fossil
sonic idol
limber ledge
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my pc

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wha

limber ledge
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ty

limber ledge
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tyty

gleaming compass
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google translate -_-

limber ledge
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ah damn that sucks PensivePeach

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i managed to get my gpu at a decent price luckily

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took a while of waiting though

gleaming compass
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It's a very sad situation and I mean I grew up in this country and I want to leave this country and I've been living here since I was born 😪

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this is not a country to live in anymore, really but really unfortunately

cosmic current
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What country?

gleaming compass
cosmic current
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Ah

limber ledge
cosmic current
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Yeah bro im sorry...

gleaming compass
gleaming compass
# limber ledge ah jeez that really sucks :/

This is really scary. I am 13 years old and working. I waited a year for the system and bought a processor. One good thing is, I was saving up for a CPU graphics card but I can't buy anything from here as the market is like that. They are replacing the video card of the car.

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google translate is translating some things wrong sorry

fickle thicket
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martynai ble

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girdi ble

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atblockink

rose panther
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pc 2500lei?

prime wadi
gleaming compass
static pecan
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English only

gleaming compass
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sorry

craggy sapphire
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hm

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yu

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you need gpu?

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and what country?

tribal terrace
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@gleaming compass aha türk

tribal terrace
odd mulch
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سلام

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@tribal terrace

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@static pecan

smoky breach
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im gonna get banned lol

craggy sapphire
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lel

crimson scroll
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Wrong place and we don't get political

tribal terrace
static pecan
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English only

pulsar fossil
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@sweet spear please stay on topic :)

lapis cape
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Intel Xeon :)

jade rapids
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wrong channel

raw marsh
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What's the right channel for scams lol

jade rapids
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there isn't one

crimson scroll
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last warning, stay on topic

sweet spear
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my pc is very lag

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how to up for my pc

jade rapids
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upgrade to 16GB RAM, that 4GB you have is probably the biggest source of "lag".

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also it's a HP laptop with an i3 I wouldn't expect much from it to begin with.

oblique nova
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Can someone tell me how to get rid of these bubbles at the top of my resovoir?

weary violet
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Holy shit

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Uhh

white sequoia
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Ask jaystwocents i guess

queen violet
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You’ll probably need to bleed it

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You’ll need to tip the case around until that big bubble has moved to somewhere that you can release it safely.

jade rapids
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designing/building systems with fill valves at easily accessible points is a glorious thing that is unfortunately oft overlooked.

noble oak
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is overclocking good?

jade rapids
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depends on a lot of things

noble oak
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can you help me with oveclock my ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1050 ti?

jade rapids
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I don't do overclocking so you'd have to ask someone else here. @queen violet might be able to help you

noble oak
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@queen violet can you help me?

queen violet
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I'd start with your gpu first

noble oak
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How can i overclock it?

queen violet
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use the msi afterburner overclock utility

queen violet
latent heath
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Not a pc but time for stab rattle to cease to exist

warm shoal
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wtf this pc socks

raw marsh
sharp notch
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.

noble oak
wise merlin
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@half fable ban this guy pls

white sequoia
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U arent supposed to ping them tho...

wise merlin
queen violet
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ur meant to dm, but dont delete the message cause ghost pings are even more annoying

latent heath
raw marsh
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not effectively

empty ivy
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should i buy this for my keyboard

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šŸ—æ

tepid frost
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If you want it, nobody else can say

empty ivy
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im a man of culture

broken rover
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hey im looking for some advice/ help on building my first pc not exactly sure where to start

queen violet
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Use pcpartpicker as a way of creating a list

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It will tell you what you need and what is compatible, as well as where to get stuff cheapest

broken rover
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any advice on the video card im looking through and im not sure if i should get 4gb or 6gb

queen violet
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6gb is ideal for 1080p

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4gb can cause some issues depending on the games you play

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The GpU itself matters a lot tho

broken rover
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@queen violet could i dm you for a second?

noble oak
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guys is good i7 9700f rtx 3060 ti 32GB ram?

wooden fjord
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10 yrs too late

raw marsh
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What

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Think again

smoky breach
white sequoia
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10700kf probably goes for a lower price nowadays

crimson scroll
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12700k $300 at mc

white sequoia
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wow

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great deal right there

smoky breach
lapis cape
white sequoia
upbeat lagoon
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good cheap mechanical red keyboards with no num pad recommendations anyone??

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mechanical blues are also fine

white sequoia
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Keychron whateverwithoutnumpad

smoky breach
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Is this weird?
I would say the n word but not the f word if i were to choose

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Wait wrong channel

queen violet
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What on earth?

raw marsh
smoky breach
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Don't worry i have never sworn before

scenic junco
scenic junco
upbeat lagoon
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:(

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mine is some chinese fake stuff

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red dragon seems relatively cheap ngl

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what abt the quality??

jade rapids
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red dragons are good, not the best but very good for the price

jade rapids
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Havit is another good brand for cheap

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And of course Corsair makes decent cheap mechanical keyboards as well

upbeat lagoon
jade rapids
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on the "mechanical feel" one? I could see someone marketing a membrane that way, kinda shady tho

smoky breach
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hows this

grim moon
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Is this a good build? Switching out the ram but everything else seems good for me

white sequoia
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thermal paste doesnt seem neccessary, since it should come pre applied to cooler, unless im wrong about that

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also, you need a gpu

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ryzen x does not have an igpu

smoky breach
crimson scroll
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not relevant

grim moon
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And yeah the thermal paste isn’t needed the ryzen has pre paste

white sequoia
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ah

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you can add the 1070ti in the build, and mark as already purchased

grim moon
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Oh I didn’t know that thanks

thin aurora
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im building a pc and I was wondering if there were any motherboards other than the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming II that would work well with the Phanteks ethno 719 tower case. does anyone know?

proud ermine
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Suggestions for a micro ATX board for the i5 12600k?

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Mini ATX would also work i guess

white sequoia
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ok

nova locust
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5800x + RTX 3080

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would not bottle neck right

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I have read saying its a really good combo some saying it is not a good combo

queen violet
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Perfectly good combo

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Just make sure you get a good cooler for the 5800x(it’s hot)

white sequoia
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Seems like a good combo

queen violet
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You could also got for 12th gen intel if you want

white sequoia
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12th gen intel cpus are good value, but motherboards are super expensive

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Even ddr4 mobos

queen violet
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True

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But performance is very good

white sequoia
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Yes, very good

frosty mulch
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imagine putting intels fan cooler to a ryzen 5900x

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Couldn’t be me

azure scaffold
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thermal paste

lucid fog
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Rip my SSD just 4TB write and 5 years of use

crimson scroll
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Looks like it uses the phison s11

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Would have expected this from an s10 maybe

lucid fog
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:/

queen violet
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100% but bad?

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Oh wait

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It’s 120gb

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That’s why

lucid fog
queen violet
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Ouch

lucid fog
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nobody can tell me that SSD dont just randomly fail

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good thing their was only rasbianOS on

queen violet
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And the smaller the ssd is, the more likely and sooner it will break.

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Because each memory cell is re-written/read more times than an equivalent cell for a larger model. Hence why 2tb and 4th SSD’s often have much larger rated endurances than 500-1tb ssd’s

smoky breach
noble oak
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f

lean tusk
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after 2 years of heavy gaming

queen violet
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Makes sense, as far as I’m aware reads aren’t as damaging for an ssd.

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If your not writing a lot then an ssd should last a ping while.

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It also does depend on the nand cells used.

lean tusk
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not sure what Kingston uses in the 250GB SSDs but they sure are strong if thats the case

grim moon
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Here’s my updated build, already got the cpu and gpu šŸ‘

crimson scroll
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crucial ballistix 3600cl16 is $80

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better than the corsair ram you've got

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h510 elite is a furnace

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i'd recommend a more airflow focused case

upbeat lagoon
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gtx 1080 non ti vs rx 6600xt
i thought 1080 would have a clean sweep but game performance tests in yt say 6600xt is the clear winner

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they were using dx 12 for testing maybe thats why

devout wolf
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a 1080Ti is a closer comparison

smoky breach
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M die is the best

devout wolf
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M-die?

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oh 16Gb

upbeat lagoon
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so if were going to buy 2nd hand 1080 or first hand 6600xt 6600xt is the obvious choice??

devout wolf
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at the same price?

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like, yeah, if you can afford the 6600XT then it's a far better choice

crimson scroll
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I thought I said not to do that @smoky breach

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Same goes to you @cold bane no politics, this is your one warning

cold bane
crimson scroll
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It's not a joke to me

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Now drop it

grim moon
crimson scroll
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also would recommend the arctic liquid freezer II 280 over that aio

grim moon
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šŸ‘thanks

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Also what does this mean? ā€œThe ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard.ā€

crimson scroll
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it means exactly what it says

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different cpu generations have different ihs sizes and shapes

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so you might need an adapter to mount the cooler properly

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contact arctic and they'll probably give it to you for free

grim moon
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Ah i see

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Thank you

sturdy comet
crimson scroll
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there's certainly preference in how ram looks

white sequoia
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AMD doesnt have this because they have been using AM4 for years

grim moon
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I see

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arctic will probably have them

grim moon
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So like recently purchased

smoky breach
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ok

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has gigabyte fixed their ddr4 issues?

grim moon
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Quite sure yes

smoky breach
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prob need to flash bios tho

grim moon
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I’ve been looking at asus and Msi as well for motherboards I’m not quite set on one yet

smoky breach
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the a690 pro seems good

grim moon
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Yeah that was one of my top choices

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For asus it was the prime z690

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And for gigabyte it was the z690 DDR4

smoky breach
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oh

ruby forge
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Series x or 500$ prebuilt?

raw marsh
white sequoia
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500 wont get u a good gaming pc

ruby forge
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what about a prebuilt

raw marsh
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that's the same thing

ruby forge
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mmm crap

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I like the accessibility of a pc more than xbox

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could a prebuilt handle games like dead by daylight,fortnite,minecraft

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plus I cant find the series x anywhere

raw marsh
ruby forge
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could I find a prebuilt and send a ss?

raw marsh
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feel free

ruby forge
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Any good brands I can start off with?

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to search

raw marsh
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most system integrators have their faults, build redux seems like a better option

ruby forge
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build redux?

raw marsh
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look it up

ruby forge
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Oh my jesus god

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1300$

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uh

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well

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800 more dollars over budget

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I mean

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Its possible

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What specs should I get if I want games to run pretty good with good graphics?

raw marsh
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that's very vague

ruby forge
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Idk pcs

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Uh

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Fortnite,apx,Dead by daylight 120+ fps

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and its decent looking

white sequoia
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Well, not 500

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Ur looking at at least 1000

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There is a gpu shortage

ruby forge
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I see

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Can a 1k pc solve my wants?

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And is game storages like game storage smaller on pc?

crimson scroll
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can you clarify what you mean by this

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and you should also specify resolution

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but fortnite and apex are esports titles and fairly easy to get running

ruby forge
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I know nothing about these things lol

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uh

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1080p

crimson scroll
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right now, except for the gpu, sure

ruby forge
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and like if I were to downlaod r6 siege on xbox it would be 60 gigs and on pc like 40 gigs

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like that

crimson scroll
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you could build a pc at $1k that would play those titles

ruby forge
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At 120 or above fps?

crimson scroll
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i would think game size is less optimized on pc usually

ruby forge
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120 fps atleast,1080p basically next gen graphics

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that can handle dead by daylight,warzone,minecraft,cod,fortnite ect

crimson scroll
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you're not gonna get "next gen graphics"

ruby forge
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Uh

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How about with a pc that's 1700$

crimson scroll
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yeah

ruby forge
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Would that deliver next gen graphics?

crimson scroll
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it would play those titles at ultra settings 120fps 1080p, yes

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if that's what you mean by next gen

ruby forge
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basically im looking for

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eye candy competitive pc

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like that

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I cant give specifications as I have 0 knowledge in pcs

crimson scroll
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i think you should start with budget first

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how much money can you reasonably afford to spend on this pc

ruby forge
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after saving up for 3 months and getting 537

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ima go with 1700

crimson scroll
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you can get a pretty top of the line pc for gaming with that

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if you expect to keep that same timeline for earnings, then it's not a good idea to part out now

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prices change in 6+ months

ruby forge
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higher or lower in price changes?

crimson scroll
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if i could tell you that, i'd be a millionaire

ruby forge
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uh

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guess?

raw marsh
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flip a coin

ruby forge
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In your opinion would it go up or down in 5+ months

crimson scroll
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i have no idea

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it doesn't matter since you don't have the money for the pc right now anyways

ruby forge
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uh

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ok

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so is 1700 good?

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could someone send me a build or specs for the future

crimson scroll
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if by good, you mean it'll get you your eyecandy pc, then yes

ruby forge
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what about the fps?

crimson scroll
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yes

ruby forge
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120+?

crimson scroll
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yes

ruby forge
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alr

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specs or what should I get?

crimson scroll
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i mean

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i can send you something that's 1700 now

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but that's no guarantee of what it'll be in the future when you also buy

ruby forge
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Alr

crimson scroll
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which is why i said parting out now doesn't make a ton of sense

ruby forge
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ah it's fine I'll learn from then

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dm me or send here?

crimson scroll
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take the builds with a grain of salt

ruby forge
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uh

crimson scroll
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the parametric filters work but aren't the best

ruby forge
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I have 0 idea of parts

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I have 0 idea of what to do there

crimson scroll
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look up some linus tech tips intro building videos then

ruby forge
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so if my budget is 1700 how should I distribute prices

crimson scroll
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most of your money in the gpu and cpu

ruby forge
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what do those do

crimson scroll
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it will be much better if you watch a video explaining everything

ruby forge
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and should I get like a terabyte of storage?

raw marsh
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at least

ruby forge
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What's the usual storage take for a game?

crimson scroll
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depends on the game

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decent overview of what each part does, although the recommendations are dated

ruby forge
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Thank you guys.

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Still gotta figure out a good headset ffs

ruby forge
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is that good

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@crimson scroll Would those specs fill my needs?

crimson scroll
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eh

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that cpu is two generations old

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also this site doesn't specify a lot of specs

ruby forge
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Ahhh,crap

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What are good brands for parts?

crimson scroll
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every brand has good and bad components

ruby forge
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Right

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And do the heat plates I think it's the CPU come with thermal paste?

crimson scroll
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the cpu cooler will come with thermal paste, yes

ruby forge
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Okay,good

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What's the difference between storage and memory?

crimson scroll
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the data in ram is not saved after your computer powers off

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the data in a hard drive or ssd is

ruby forge
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So ram clears and memory saves?

crimson scroll
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ram is memory

ruby forge
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So the better the ram the more it can handle?

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Like games,videos,tabs

crimson scroll
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not really

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the MORE ram you have the more stuff you can have open

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more ram isn't necessarily better

ruby forge
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I meant that,apologies

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I am sorry in advance for me not knowing shite

crimson scroll
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you're fine

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everybody has to start learning somewhere

ruby forge
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I suppose

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What are recommended brands for graphics and CPUs or the important things

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Or like each brand for each item you would reccomend?

crimson scroll
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again that's pretty variable because every company makes good and bad stuff

ruby forge
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This is different...for sure

crimson scroll
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in terms of cpus and gpus though, there's only three real companies that make anything

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intel, amd, and nvidia

ruby forge
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I see

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I'll stick to those

crimson scroll
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so it's not like you have a choice outside of those three really

ruby forge
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Stupid question but does rgb heat up your pc faster?

crimson scroll
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there are some rgb ssds that have overheating issues

ruby forge
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Nice to know.

crimson scroll
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but any decent rgb strip shouldn't be very hot

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in general if you don't try to home wire something it'll be fine

ruby forge
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Intel,AMD nvidia

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Got it

crimson scroll
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intel and amd make cpus

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amd and nvidia make gpus

ruby forge
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Graphics card is a GPU right?

crimson scroll
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yeah

ruby forge
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and question, what are those bottom 3 items in my pc list

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On the photo in build redux

crimson scroll
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power supply, motherboard, pcie wifi add-in card

ruby forge
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What should I splurge on out of the build?

crimson scroll
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cpu and gpu should be the most expensive

ruby forge
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What about motherboard?

crimson scroll
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eh

ruby forge
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That seems most important...right?

crimson scroll
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past a certain point, it doesn't make a big difference unless you have a very specific use case

ruby forge
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What does it affect?

crimson scroll
#

power delivery to the cpu mostly

ruby forge
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So it reduces heat?

crimson scroll
#

you don't need to worry about most of the features

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indirectly reduces heat, yeah

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better vrms will do that

ruby forge
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Vrm?

crimson scroll
#

voltage regulator module

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the thing that controls power delivery

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you know anything about engines?

ruby forge
#

nope

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I know 0 about electronics besides like phones and drones

crimson scroll
#

you know the concept of efficiency

ruby forge
#

So would this be accurate spending?
CPU-370
GPU-660
RAM-90
Storage-140
Fans-100
Case-110
Power supply-85
Motherboard-210
Wifi-35

crimson scroll
#

probably too much on the fans

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but as a rough guide, it's okay

ruby forge
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Fans aren't that much?

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Huh.

crimson scroll
#

you probably should not spend that much on fans

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unless you're including cpu cooling in there

jade rapids
#

depends on if you go for RGB or not

ruby forge
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Rgb yes

ruby forge
crimson scroll
#

well i would just make it a separate item

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it's not really a fan

ruby forge
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CPU cooling is needed right

crimson scroll
#

yes

ruby forge
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so is that with the fans or no?

crimson scroll
#

cpu cooling has fans

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but i wouldn't lump it into the fans category

ruby forge
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Oh alright

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How much should I spend on both?

crimson scroll
#

it's really relative to the cpu you buy

ruby forge
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The brand?

crimson scroll
#

anywhere from 60 to 120 i'd consider reasonable for a cpu that's $300

jade rapids
#

technically a tower cooler or aio water system would be it's own purchase, but both usually include their own fans. Depending on the case (which also can come with fans) you'll have anywhere from 1 to 4 fans that aren't directly related to the CPU. Some have more but that's getting into overkill territory.

ruby forge
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this one guy put his pc in a fishtank

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used mineral oil

crimson scroll
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yeah

ruby forge
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just a random thing to mention haha

jade rapids
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those are a big project and not really suitable for a beginner build

ruby forge
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I was just saying that I never thought stuff like that was possible

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So I should have like 4 fans in total?

crimson scroll
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depends on the case

ruby forge
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ah right

jade rapids
#

and the cooler

ruby forge
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How much are coolers?

crimson scroll
#

uh

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the price varies?

ruby forge
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For what I'm trying to build

crimson scroll
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like i said, there are coolers in the 60-120 range that would be good for a cpu i'd expect you to get at 300

ruby forge
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I should figure a case shouldnt i

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300$ for a cooler?

crimson scroll
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no

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60-120 for the cooler

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300 for the cpu

ruby forge
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Oh right

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The case matters?

crimson scroll
#

yes

ruby forge
#

So I've noticed pc is like a big clunky puzzle

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You need a certain piece for a certain purpose

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Is that about right?

crimson scroll
#

yeah

ruby forge
#

Alright

#

So would this be accurate spending?
CPU-370
GPU-660
RAM-90
Storage-140
Fans-40
Cooling-80
Case-110
Power supply-85
Motherboard-210
Wifi-35

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That better?

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Changed the fans and cooling from each other

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That's more accurate I believe

crimson scroll
#

sure

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i wouldn't focus too much on sticking to those exact prices

ruby forge
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I gotcha

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Higher I'm guessing?haha

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So is anything in there overkill?

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For like price ranges ect

crimson scroll
#

you could spend less on the cpu, motherboard, and ram and put it towards the gpu

ruby forge
#

So a ranking for price would go like this

crimson scroll
#

check if you have a microcenter near you

ruby forge
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Oop

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Microcenter?

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Like a pc store?

crimson scroll
#

yeah

ruby forge
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nothing sadly

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I'm sorry for the questions

crimson scroll
#

it's fine

ruby forge
#

More like 320 cpu?

crimson scroll
#

sure

ruby forge
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Alright...

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150 motherboard?

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75 ram

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that's my guess

crimson scroll
#

seems reasonable

ruby forge
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I thought I lowballed on the motherboard haha

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My pc nerd friend mentioned something about cores?

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Like 4 cores 8 cores 16 cores

crimson scroll
#

yeah, cpus have cores

ruby forge
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So CPU is the thermal part right

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The heat management

crimson scroll
#

what do you mean

ruby forge
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Like,what is the cpu

crimson scroll
#

did you watch the video i linked a while ago?

ruby forge
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In a car rn so never got the chance

crimson scroll
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i'd watch that

ruby forge
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Alright.

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Is there a website to browse for pc parts?

ruby forge
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I love you

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After this I will buy you a ring lmao

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I thank you extremely

crimson scroll
#

let's not get too wild

ruby forge
#

I'll see what I can come up with and send you what I got?

crimson scroll
#

sure

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but like i said the prices are gonna change

ruby forge
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I gotcha

crimson scroll
#

so a list now can give you a decent idea of what to expect but i wouldn't use it without updating it when you actually do buy

ruby forge
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Right

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So I have to buy,A case,wifi thing,4 fans,cooling,cpu,gpu,motherboard,ram,storage

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that it?

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Power supply,right

crimson scroll
#

not necessarily four fans

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and wifi is dependent on if you have a wired connection available or not

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but yes

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the pcpp site has sections for all of those

ruby forge
#

I do have a wired connection

jade rapids
#

Wifi also comes built into a lot of MoBos these days anyway

ruby forge
#

How many fans would you recommend

crimson scroll
#

depends on the case

ruby forge
#

And what cooling system should I use?the cheap and effective I mean

jade rapids
#

Depends on case and cooler, those are the last thing I'd look at

jade rapids
ruby forge
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oh uh

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the pc part picker has confused me on the cpu already

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clocking,cores ect

jade rapids
#

Watch the videos first to get an understanding before picking parts šŸ˜‰ much easier once you have a basic idea of what does what

ruby forge
#

Oh it explains this stuff?

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Like the built in graphics and stuff

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SMT ecc support

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Socket

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Core family

jade rapids
#

They should cover the basics

ruby forge
#

Microarchitecture

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THE BASICS

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...what

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this is more confusing then my calculus

jade rapids
#

a lot of what you just listed doesn't matter a whole lot and the part picker will make sure it's all compatible anyway\

ruby forge
#

Oh

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What doesn't matter of it?

crimson scroll
#

you don't need to know the specifics of how a cpu works

ruby forge
#

I think this stuff matters

crimson scroll
#

nah

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not really

#

i wouldn't buy based off that

ruby forge
#

I thought these settings were everything

crimson scroll
#

for consumers, you want to look at the ryzen line from amd and the core i line from intel

ruby forge
#

Shouldnt the start be like 8 cores or so?

crimson scroll
#

nah

ruby forge
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1 core could run what I need?

crimson scroll
#

no lol

jade rapids
# ruby forge What doesn't matter of it?

it's easier to just say what matters: Brand, Core Count, Clock Speed. That's pretty much it. Integrated graphics can be nice but not necessary if you have a GPU anyway

ruby forge
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Thank you

crimson scroll
#

but if you pick up a modern medium-high end cpu then it'll have the cores and power necessary for what you want

ruby forge
#

So for a cpu i7 would be good?

jade rapids
#

yep

crimson scroll
#

depends on which one

ruby forge
#

Right..

jade rapids
#

9th gen or newer, ideally 11th-12th gen

crimson scroll
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no point in looking at 9th gen

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it's not going to be cheaper

ruby forge
#

Does the number next to the I mean the gen?

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Like i9?

crimson scroll
#

no

ruby forge
#

this is alot to take in

crimson scroll
#

amd follows a similar naming scheme

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basically bigger number better

ruby forge
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I will persevere and show you a badass pc at the end thougj

crimson scroll
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not always, but generally

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past a certain point, it doesn't matter how big the number is

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you won't notice a difference

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it's like how having a million dollars is way better than a thousand dollars

ruby forge
#

Intel core i9-9900kf?

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Is that a good cpu?

crimson scroll
#

but will you notice the difference between two million and three million? probably not

#

it's fine but it's an older cpu

#

not a good price/performance ratio

ruby forge
#

Oof

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5.5k cpu

#

Nice

jade rapids
ruby forge
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I see

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I9 11900k

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430$

crimson scroll
#

not worth

ruby forge
#

Too expensive or not good

crimson scroll
#

worse performance than the 10900k in some scenarios

ruby forge
#

So what should I be looking for?

#

Max I should spend on a cpu is like what 450?

crimson scroll
#

depends on the price, but 5600x/5800x with refresh, 12600k, 12700k, 11600k

ruby forge
#

My budget is ideally 1800

crimson scroll
#

that's roughly what you're looking at with your budget

#

comments will usually tell you if it's a good price for the component or not

ruby forge
#

What's the difference between amd and the I brand?

crimson scroll
#

that's like asking the difference between honda and toyota

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a lot

ruby forge
#

so they are the same?

crimson scroll
#

no

#

they do the same thing

jade rapids
#

Intel vs AMD. the argument of the ages. AMD used to be better at having a lot of little cores and Intel was good at less cores but faster. Nowadays it's mostly preference.

crimson scroll
#

they're very different

ruby forge
#

So AMD is for small builds and Intel is for bigger builds?

crimson scroll
#

no

ruby forge
#

then...what's the difference

crimson scroll
#

effective marketing on you though

ruby forge
#

both eventually do the same

crimson scroll
#

yeah

#

i mean, you're asking the difference between any product in a market made by different manufacturers

ruby forge
#

but they honestly look and seem the same

#

I dunno if I'm just stupid or if I generally dont notice a difference

jade rapids
crimson scroll
#

two people are pizza makers

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they both make pizza

#

are they the same? no

#

they're very different

#

but the pizza is pretty similar

#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

ruby forge
#

The technique?

#

And recipe?

crimson scroll
#

do you care about the technique?

ruby forge
#

I get it

crimson scroll
#

or do you care about how it tastes in the end

ruby forge
#

It eventually comes out the same

crimson scroll
#

as a consumer

ruby forge
#

But they do different things in the basics of it

#

I get it now

crimson scroll
#

yeah

#

you don't really need to know how they do it differently

ruby forge
#

nice demonstration

#

What's a better brand for my soon to be pimped out graphics card

#

or does it not matter

crimson scroll
#

right now it's whatever you can actually buy at a reasonable price

#

supply is very low

ruby forge
#

Why is there such a sudden supply spike?

crimson scroll
#

not really sudden

#

but silicon shortage + crypto + pandemic

ruby forge
#

right.

#

What's reasonable to you if you had 1800$?

crimson scroll
#

i'd try to get a 3080 or 3070 from best buy for 700 or 500

ruby forge
#

nearest best buy is like

crimson scroll
#

because i have the patience to not pay scalper prices

ruby forge
#

far

#

Scalper prices being 450+?

#

Or 600+

crimson scroll
#

scalper prices being 50% to 100% extra of msrp

ruby forge
#

Just looked at the prices on google

#

2.5k.

#

That's uh

#

Not normal...right

crimson scroll
#

yeah

ruby forge
#

Atleast we meet there on the same page...jesus

#

So technically Intel would be better for a NVIDIA?

crimson scroll
#

no

#

neither cpu brand goes better with either gpu brand

jade rapids
#

That's just the common pairing

ruby forge
#

oh that doesn't matter?

jade rapids
#

not really

crimson scroll
#

intel has had fantastic marketing for a long time to convince everybody that they're better than amd

#

and for a long time they were

#

right now intel and amd are about equal

#

amd comes out with a generation that beats intel, intel comes out with a generation that beats amd

#

two years ago amd was kicking intel's butt

ruby forge
#

Google has told me since intel having less cores is better because of some clock speed thing

#

no idea

#

is this statement correct or no

jade rapids
ruby forge
#

so it generally doesn't matter what I pick

#

because rn it doesn't seem it matters

#

one has more cores but less clock speed

#

Speaking of

#

What is clock speed?

jade rapids
jade rapids
ruby forge
#

I get it now

#

One has small cores that does the same job as 3 big cores

#

I understand now

crimson scroll
#

ehh

#

kinda

ruby forge
#

whatd I miss

crimson scroll
#

architecture has changed for 12th gen intel

#

don't worry too much about the cores

ruby forge
#

what gen do I need to run new games

crimson scroll
#

just worry about what performance you want by watching reviews

#

then figure out which cpu delivers that

#

there's no "minimum" gen you need to run games

ruby forge
#

going with amd

jade rapids
ruby forge
#

many reddit people like amd

#

so I like it now

crimson scroll
#

lol

ruby forge
#

now what gen to buy

crimson scroll
#

that is a bad mentality imo

ruby forge
#

I was meaning to be sarcastic haha

crimson scroll
#

ok good

ruby forge
#

Apologies if I cant really sound it here

#

But a few people said amd based on some complicated spiderman computer stuff

crimson scroll
#

eh

ruby forge
#

so I'll sum it up here

crimson scroll
#

pure gaming performance right now, intel 12th gen barely edges out amd 4th gen

#

at equivalent tiers of product

ruby forge
#

alder lake chips?

#

that has appeared to sway this cpu war

crimson scroll
#

that's 12th gen, yes

ruby forge
#

Oh.

#

What gen should I go for?

#

Since I cant really spent 700$ on a cpu here

crimson scroll
#

either intel 12th or amd 4th

ruby forge
#

skipped a few series lol

crimson scroll
#

nobody really calls it 4th gen amd though

#

it's zen 3

ruby forge
#

oh

#

makes sense

crimson scroll
#

there are also frequently deals on others

#

which is why i mentioned earlier something like the 11600k might be a good choice

ruby forge
#

11600K or Kf?

#

And what's the difference

crimson scroll
#

eh

#

f just means no integrated graphics for intel cpus

#

it's nice for troubleshooting

ruby forge
#

Integrated graphics good or bad?

#

That's gonna be good then

crimson scroll
#

nobody spending 1800 on a pc is gonna use integrated graphics to game

ruby forge
#

230 for a cpu?

#

DAYUM that's good

#

really good

crimson scroll
#

there's also some benefits for using the igpu to accelerate some tasks

#

but not for gaming

ruby forge
#

Lemme change my copy list rq

#

To add up at the end

#

mb

#

So would this be accurate spending?
CPU-230
GPU-660
RAM-90
Storage-140
Fans-100
Case-110
Power supply-85
Motherboard-210
Wifi-35

#

next is the gpu

#

NVIDIA here right?

crimson scroll
#

or amd

ruby forge
#

Nvm cpu cooler now

#

No idea here

#

lost

crimson scroll
#

just depends on what cpu you choose

ruby forge
#

masterliquid?

crimson scroll
#

it'll put out a certain amount of heat

ruby forge
#

what is this lego ninjago

#

is my cpu Ryan Reynolds?

crimson scroll
#

so you need a cpu that can dissipate that amount of heat at a reasonable rate

ruby forge
#

or justin bieber

#

please get the joke

#

please.

#

forget the joke

#

so my cpu is good for this right?

crimson scroll
#

what cpu

ruby forge
#

the 11600k

crimson scroll
#

it's a decent performer, yeah

#

depends on the price

ruby forge
#

230

#

for the cpu

crimson scroll
#

everything depends on the price

#

yeah that's fine

ruby forge
#

so this would run what I need right?

#

little under little over?

crimson scroll
#

yeah

ruby forge
#

cpus deliver fps right

#

or no

crimson scroll
#

kinda

ruby forge
#

what's the main thing?

crimson scroll
#

cpu and gpu

#

some games are more cpu dependent

#

some are more gpu dependent

ruby forge
#

I gotcha

#

my friend who has a 1k pc said he runs fortnite at 150 and minecraft at over 1k

#

fps

#

so what's his big difference

crimson scroll
#

depends on his settings and his build

ruby forge
#

Right

#

seems like he overspent on cpu and gpu imo

#

I know jack about pcs but I think from that he did

#

because his pc you can hear from the mic sometimes

#

so...I think his cooling is underwhelming

#

right or wrong?

crimson scroll
#

i can't answer that

#

i don't know what his build is

ruby forge
#

True

#

Anyways

#

Cooling

crimson scroll
#

i'm actually going to bed

ruby forge
#

Is this just a random or is there certain brands

#

oh alt

#

alr

#

I'll watch those vids

#

thank you very much fine man.

#

I hope you have a lucid dream as bill gates

ruby forge
#

Here's what I have so far

crimson scroll
#

just send the link instead of screenshots

ruby forge
#

that's the only 2 I have

#

google and reddit say a 300 dollar motherboard is good for the i5

crimson scroll
#

kind of excessive

ruby forge
#

right

#

So I saved that for here

#

And I believe the cooling is fine

#

Reviews were good

#

Also

#

Should I upgrade to an i7 for 100$?

#

Or is it not worth

crimson scroll
#

no

ruby forge
#

not worth I see

#

alright

#

so my motherboard has to fit my other parts right

crimson scroll
#

yeah

ruby forge
#

should I filter that?

errant vigil
#

I usually build with AMD (the motherboards have Am4 sockets for cpu)

#

Usually everything else should be able to fit nicely if you get a motherboard and parts that came out within the last few years or so

#

Also depending on the cpu and if you’re wanting to overclock you won’t need to buy a cooler (unless you got a lot of money to spend)

ruby forge
#

I'm using Intel

errant vigil
#

Stock cooling will do well for the most part as long as you don’t overclock stuff

ruby forge
#

Here's the motherboard google told me to use

crimson scroll
#

he's planning on spending 1800

#

it would be silly to not get a separate cooler

errant vigil
ruby forge
#

oh

#

thanks

errant vigil
ruby forge
#

Do motherboards have to be compatible with the cpu?

crimson scroll
#

yes

ruby forge
#

Like sockets?

errant vigil
#

(Yes)

ruby forge
#

there is a car that flies

#

and swims

errant vigil
#

Lol I’m just busting your back

ruby forge
#

yeah ik haha

#

Anyways

errant vigil
#

Yep so you need the intel socket

ruby forge
#

My cpu cooling is fine...or is it horrible

errant vigil
#

I prefer Noctua

#

I’ve never used water cooling before

#

I like air cooling cause it’s cheaper but I bet there’s videos on how to install water coolers

ruby forge
#

Water cooling I heard is quieter

#

Because you wouldn't use a desk fan to cool off a fire

#

;)

errant vigil
crimson scroll
#

water cooling has fans