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or just get a gen 3 m.2
that's large enough to hold the games and the os
also those fans aren't cheap, but if you like the aesthetic there's not much other choice i guess
i liked them for the rgb but as time goes on i tend to care less about rgb
you can always add another 2tb hdd if you need it
and i'd really still change out the fans
also you have the option of using the 5600x or nvenc on the 2070 to stream, depending on if the game is more cpu or gpu bound
having said that, there's also the option of ditching amd entirely and going with a 11600k/10700k
save on fans and get a Ryzen 5600x or 5800X.
imo
without looking at local stores, the 5600x and 11600k come out to almost the same price once you add in the motherboard
so really up to you
i lowkey dont wanna leave 8 cores
thanks to the input i changed up the build and for now im gonna go with this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/99vjz7 and ill go to canada computers and just see what fans do the have there
Arctic fans are dirt cheap. I bought one of their value packs. 5 fans 120mm PWM controlled with a max sound output of 22db for 30eur
and they're actually good
Initial video: https://youtu.be/QnBo9bTRsxk
Check prices on Amazon below
Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM: https://geni.us/Dzcd
Arctic P12 PWM: https://geni.us/iFabpEN
Gentle Typhoon PWM: https://geni.us/bBPmqA
Silverstone Air Blaster 120R: https://geni.us/v3Fbzg
BeQuiet Silent Wings 3: https://geni.us/SXE7ATo
Noctua NH-U12A: https://geni.us/JK0Vd
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I saw them I was gonna get them if I didnāt find one that had rgb so I can have a little light in the case
fair fair enough.
I like my aesthetic all black so for me it fit really well
the only rgb mine has is the motherboard and I have it turned off
Hi Guys. I want to buy two new monitors for coding and gaming. The budget is around 600. Do you have any suggestions?
uh, dont get that
you can code on pretty much everything, and for gaming I would say get at least 144hz and then whatever resolution your computer can handle
yeah ik. but there are so many monitors that fit into this š
true, look at panel type, TN is usually cheaper (and faster), IPS has the best colors and viewing angles ( in general) and VA is somewhere in between
overal design of the monitor
thin bezzels are nice too!
ups
does it make a difference between the different types, how well you can use the monitor for a long time without getting headaches etc?
That won't depends on display type, more on eyestrain due to lack of ambient lighting or similar
kk
I can recomend you to buy 1monitor with 60hz refrsh rate for coding and buy another 144hz for gaming, maybe around 450$
yea i had this idea too but it looks cleaner if its the same monitor
Get double 144hz monitor then it would be 600$ I think
actually
since you have a pretty big budget
you could get one of those ultra-ultrawides
lots of coders use them cuz its easy to have stuff next to each other yk, for example git to the left, w3schools because you forgot how to use an if() function and coding to the right
some people just dont like ultrawide monitor, like me, idk why i just dont like it
When I am upgrading from amd to Nvidia do I need to do anything with drivers or can I just plug and play
youll have to download the drivers for your graphics card off course
But do I have to Uninstall the old ones
Or something special
Or just restart and install the new ones
Why not
Wdym
Lol 5800X is considered the best oc chip of the lot, itās Ā£350 in the U.K. right now which is a pretty great price for what you get.
Never touch TN, modern IPS monitors have similar response times, but have better colours, contrast and viewing angles
Their is a case for high refresh rate VA and normal for second monitors tho
I can make many suggestions for changes if your here
Problem with a 5800X is you need a high end cooler. Basically a noctua or a 240mm aio. And if you want to overclock It a 280mm minimum
For most people a 5600x makes much more sense
it does but some people dont like losing cores
Losing cores for gaming makes zero difference
The only benefit of a 5800X is the clock speeds to most people
thats right
I have a TN panel
its really good
ngl i wish they made a 5700x
Theyāll make a 5800 at some point
i like 7s when it comes to pc stuff
But a 5600x still makes more sense
Hmmm, I think itās probably a situation where you donāt know what ur missing out on
and response times are very misleading, alot of monitors are not able to deliver true 1ms response time unless you have some really weird color panel change so it works
no worries you will see a 3700x thats cause i wanted to do a 3070 and 3700 build when 3070 comes back to normal
and why are you choosing the 3700 exactly?
plus if they have a rtx 2000-3000 they can turn on low latency
Honestly first change, get a 240mm rad and a 5600x, second sort out the storage lol get a 1tb fast ssd and a hdd if you really need space
oh forgot to mention i have a thermaltake snow rgb 71 case that's why i got the three fan rad
Just cause it fits doesnāt mean you should lol
A 360mm is beyond overkill
I mean
I kidna get where hes coming from
look at that case
its massive
if you put small hardware in there it looks really empty
Jesus
yup that case
š
lol
Are you planning on Overclocking ram?
yup
Donāt get that ram
Get the 3200mhz CL14 kit
Trust me
B-die
And that psu might not be the best
any other changes that you guys can bestow upon me
The best I know for you would be an RMx 750 watt
For power supply
650 would probably be fine
a 5800x is like 500+ in CAD
Still more than enough
Im just gasing at that case in pure disgust š idk man that thing is so massive I cant imagine how it could possibly look good if ur not custom watercooling inside of it
Right, whatās a 5600x?
369.99
If you plan on properly Overclocking the 5600x then I could justify a 360mm
reminds me of my friend who got a massive full tower and put an itx board inside of it
lol
look this is a hot take here, and this makes no sense whatsover, but fill every single spot in that case with fans if it has mounts for them
just do it
dont listen to everyone else
trust me
š
i overclock a lot with this build so i know a great share i do a lot and i always learn new skills so i`ve been on adobe a lot
Right, well do please consider getting the 3200 cl14 kit for ram
You won't really get a noticeable benefit over a 280 or even 240 rad
For a 5600x you would
but Melker look at his case, it will look so tiny with a 240
Overclocked itās pretty dang hot
from performence standpoint yeah its not needed
but bigger rads never do any harm
just means you can put the fan speed lower or get it cooler
both is a win
also @queen violet you should help me out tightening my timings sometime
havent gotten to it
also never done it b4
Sure thing
all I did was overclock my ram from 3600 to 4133
What die?
@queen violet got any ram suggestions
Yes
This
Is basically the best affordable kit
Trident Z rgb 3200 cl14
Or you can buy the neo kit 3800 cl14
I've pushed my 5600x as far as it will go and it's still comfortably under 60° under load
With a 240mm rad
What power consumption?
I hit 80oC with a maxed out 5600x and a 280mm rad doing 140 watts at roughly 4.7Ghz all core
PBOād
its $222 for that ram
Well, if you plan on Overclocking itās great
not worth it though
Ye it is
i was gonna get the cl13600 and get 4 sticks
so its hard to justify 222
Try Ballistix 3600 cl16 or the trident z version
Cl18 is a terrible bin
Defo push for the cl16 if you can afford it
Cinebench tuned to 5ghz is about 75w
crucial ballistix 3600 is nice and barely any rgb in this build so im liking it more
Ye itās good for overclocking, so would defo recommend it
im lowkey getting anoyed of rainbow rgb
Fair enough tbh
change ur case while ur at it 
A single 1tb drive and 2tb hdd
Or a single 2tb drive
Bear in mind windows 11 and direct storage, which will have a positive impact on performance and game quality
So an NVME for games will be a lot more useful
So 2tb Nvme wouldnāt be a bad call
any 2tb nvme in mind?
I mean SN850 is good
But expensive
It's what I'm using, very speedy but not necessary
Gen3 ssdās are more than fine for most people
Direct storage will hopefully make good use of gen4
Hopefully
i read about it that's why in my older version of this build i had a gen 4 500gb for windows and adobe
Iām looking forward to getting my SN850 2tb later this month
Dang crucial p2/2tb is only £180
not in cad everything be up
SN550 is the cheapest I can find, about 260 CAD
Obviously you could choose a gen4 1tb drive and hdd
But with games getting even bigger, 1tb isnāt what it used to be
Both CoD games together are like 600gb š
yup
lol
Well if you feel confident 1tb is enough then nothing wrong with getting a 1tb ssd and the 2tb seagate
That way u get access to Gen4
yup
i dont know if i should get a m.2 for windows and aodbe and then a ssd for games or if i should just get a 1 or 2tb m.2
Better to get a single drive that 2 separate ssdās
Because a larger ssd will have a longer lifespan, makes file management easier, and means u have another m.2 spare for a future upgrade
so double down and get a 2tb m.2
Either 2tb nvme
Or
1TB nvme + 2tb HDD
They are the best options
If you feel that 1tb will be ok for all ur main games then the 1tb + 2tb hdd is probably better
If I'm going amd to Nvidia do I need to Uninstall old drivers
best to
Do you do that manually or will it do it for me
Iām pretty sure itās best practise too
DDU
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i did mine manually
Thanks
fireball just sent the one i used
@queen violet so hows this build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Kboss119/saved/vDMGLk
i dont really know what fans i wnat cause that might be the only thing that is rgb
Is the double ram intentional?
crucial p2 sucks
yup want to fill the ram slots
Ok, in terms of compatibility and Overclocking I would get a 4x8gb kit instead of 2 kits
Iām pretty sure the seagate 2tb is the best hdd(durability, speed) available, not sure about the WD 5400rpm
Rest looks good
yeah just switched it the ballistix doesn't come in 4x8 on the sight
what would you recommend
like i said, the seagate is fine
The 360mm rad is more for aesthetic purposes
it's just not the best hdd for durability and speed available
For a reasonable price*
Should have said that
Sure you could get an ironwolf pro or something like that, but might aswell get an ssd at that point tbh
i guess
but also remember that the speeds on the hard drive will be maybe 160mb/s vs 140mb/s for 7200 vs 5400, and that's not taking into account platter density
and also 5400 is quieter
True, but at such low speeds, 300 write and 250 read is quite a lot better than around 200/150 I think
so really there's not much of a difference even though higher number better
if you're using the hard drive how you should, for storage, it literally won't matter
there are 10tb hard drives at 5400 that are faster than 1tb drives at 7200, my platter density is referring to different sizes
where are you getting 200/150
it would be for videos and software like streamlabs steelseries gg geforce experience
they're all pretty much the same read/write
Thatās the WD
And I ran it on my seagate I while ago, and got 300 write 250 read
is that your WD
Nope
not much of a comparison then
Sure, but itās a rough estimate of performance
Yes, but the speeds wonāt be much different with version changes
I stand corrected it was 200 read and 200 write for the Seagate
Sure itās reduced pretty heavily, and think about how much lower the WD would be too
Either way, the seagate is faster than the WD, that was my original point
is it though
again, not in a meaningful way
and these tests still can't be compared
So if Iām right in saying the seagate has 8gb of cache/memory whereas the WD has 256mb of base cache
Which should help with reactivity a lot
any rgb fan suggestions
AER rgb 2ās look great, Corsair Rgb fans are good too, the Arctic rgb fans are also good
Depends what you prefer in terms of the looks, the performance will be roughly the same, although Arctic fans tend to be slightly better
@queen violet so basically the be quiet rad is good but i just seen a thermaltake rad thats 5 dollars cheaper should i get that one instead
Thermal take TH360?
yup
Pretty highly rated aio so should be fine
i could get this rad and three fans form them for less than 200
However the be quiet is refillable and non rgb
But realistically any performance difference will be negligible with a 5600x
So itās down to whichever one looks better
Iāll try find the loudness for each
I would go thermaltake if those are accurate
40 decibels is noticeable to say the least
if i go with thermaltake assembly is way easier since its the same company as my case
Not sure thatās how it works, but if you have an integrated fan controller or other thermaltake rgb fans then yes there is a benefit
true it does save me more on buying fans since all i wanted was rgb fans in the build it can be white like how the stock fans are
@queen violet nvm im just gonna get the be quiet and arctic fans
Fair enough, the be quiet looks pretty darn cool ngl
Arctic p12s are nice
is the corsair vengence lpx 3200 cl 16 good?
@queen violet
@crimson scroll it says the power draw is less than 450 for whole build do i rly need to get a whole new psu?
what's your current one
corsair 550
probably fine
looks like i just saved more money
cxm550
Might be ok but a 5600x overclocked and 3070 probably overclocked will pull a lot of power
i have a 2070 rn
Oh ye ur looking for a 3070 arenāt you
if anything i can just buy a better supply 2 weeks everything is just onsale rn thats why
Fair enough
750 watts is nice for a 3070
750 watts is excessive for a 3070
+1
650 is perfectly fine
Unless u plan on Overclocking ur cpu, ram and whatever the hell you can find is overclockable that is xD
Still enough headroom for that
Ram can actually draw like a solid 30-50 watts or more if ocād high, but B die will need itās own cooler
Sure
For an amd system anyway, 650 is more than enough
You could argue that an intel system might benefit from more but thatās high end level
+1 (again)
scam
Indeed
translation so yall dont have to look it up
Same gist as every other CS trade scam with a fake link then
@queen violet built the pc yesterday havenāt got to try it but I will tomorrow
Nice!
I saved so much money and got same for cheaper at a computer store
I have a dell optiplex 550, but i cant find like the performance boosting cards for them. Can i get help
Performance boosting cards? Do you mean graphics card
should i upgrade my i5 4590 to a i7 4790
Upgrade to an better gen or u will be dead
Most likely wonāt make a difference
Save up and try change generations
You're unlikely to get an answer out of him
RYZEN 5 3600 175ā¬
TOMAHAWK MAX B450 60-70ā¬(USED BUT VERY GOOD CONDITION)
2X8GB 3000MHZ CL15 PATRIOT (77ā¬) new
Or to go for I5-10500-140ā¬
Aorus B560 elite- 125ā¬
Ram same
Ryzen imo
I would go for the 3600, set the ram to 3200mhz. And possibly overclock the 3600 or use pbo if you have an ok cooler.
It also means you can upgrade to a 5600x later down the line with minimal costs
It might be 20-30fps more in csgo, doubt it will be that high in normal games
isnt based on an opinion.
neither
go 10400 + cheapest b560 board.
Really?
or go 11400/11500 with a b560m steel legend + gelid phantom
Cheap B560 have 90w locked
its a 10th gen...
those dont even need that much.
its only 11th gen that needs that much power lol
also b560m steel legend is cheaper as the aorus elite
and doesnt have any power issues .
kk
I have AsRock B560 pro4 for 95ā¬
Asus Prime B560m-K 100ā¬
Msi b560 pro 100ā¬
In my shop this is cheapest
Its expensive than aorus hahaha 15⬠more
Even a 10400f can utilise 120-150watts
If you want performance I would go 11th gen, like an 11400 or 11500. Or go amd(3600)
Both have benefits and weaknesses
can my GTX 1050 run with an I9 9900k
Yes
Yep
Get some good cooling for that 9900k tho
Maybe oc it too š§
Then what would I have šššš
idkkk
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A company being better isn't an opinion, and your "opinion" is wrong
Lmao, I meant it as Iād prefer Ryzen
and 10400f would be fine on stock. 11th gen not. not to forget that performance increase is roughly 5% with 11400f over 10400f, for a lot of money increasement aswell (about 100$ or more.) . and benefits on 3600? eh, no just none anymore, due to its price is just not even worth to consider no matter what. price to high performance to low
step 1, dont prefer a cpu brand.
hard truth, brand dont give a single fk about you. they just want your money, you should get the best items in terms of price/performance wise. so you get the best item for your money
3600 offers a strong upgrade path, Overclocking(ram + cpu) and gen4 support. But if itās overpriced in opās area then donāt bother
strong upgrade path? as if lga 1200 wouldent. both platforms are dead anyway. overclocking a 3600 is absolutely useless, gain is 1% due to no headroom. ram oc... okay, not gonna be special either, gen4 is useless.
Well if you go b450 you can get a 5600x later down the line, over clock that and it will still be competitive
11400 is just 10% slower as the 5600x.
If you go 10400f your stuck with a b560 that canāt run anything like an 11600k well
doesnt matter
I guess I have the POV of an overclocker
11600k doesnt do much with OC anyway
But either way, upgrades are always something to take into consideration
Ehh it can do actually
actually not
its not big...
margin around 5 to 10 fps at most
to non oc 11600k
Well it depends on the game, but a full cpu and ram overclock can gain u 10-15% depending on what ur doing
also, you could just go non k series (since k series on lock board.. yeah useless..) onto i7/i9 is just as big as a upgrade as just 3600 to 5600x or whatever
But anyway, this guy probably wonāt be doing any ocāing so a 10400f would be fine
Exactlyā¦
same š©
sad times
do you guys think waiting for ddr5 is gonna be worth it
i might build a pc when 12 gen intel comes out but im not sure if i should wait another month or a few for ddr5
DDR5 will be outrageously expensive compared to DDR4 and won't have a decent enough performance uplift when it launches to justify the price increase just like every other time a new gen of RAM is released. Don't wait for DDR5 to build a new system (although it may take that long to get GPUs at decent prices)
eh
ddr5 is fine now
performance wise
12th gen intel is supposed to support both
My dumbass is still gonna buy a gpu even though it's a costs a down payment on a car
My 3080 was cheap tbh
Good for you. That doesn't mean it's 'cheap' for them, or anyone else.
Hopefully B-Die prices will drop when DDR5 ram properly releases for everybody, should be good for anybody stuck on ddr4
Hmmm Iām guessing it would probably negate the benefits of push pull, having such a small gap for air to escape
The amount of positive pressure š
need a good cpu for OC
define "best" for oc
again, if it's just to push the chip, i would not pick that
there's a greater performance uplift between stock and tuned OC on intel than on amd, in general
plus amd OC on zen 3 is mostly just pbo + undervolt
Under what pricepoint?
Also, corsair ram issues via another server
- normally has a terrible bin
- unknown die however it normally some terribly performing die
- priced terribly most kits, rgb kits, will perform better for cheaper
- traps u in icue which is a terrible software full of issue
- will not be able to oc it at all most likely unless u get one of their solid b die kits but those r very rare and still overpriced
- the pcb is poopy
- many kits also fail to reach marketed speeds at xmp or have stability issues at xmp. This occurs a lot with kits that have a higher gb per dimm, high mhz, or low cl
Also, ballistix is very much poggers
the best deal at my local microcenter.. not really a good deal but they're selling 6900xts for like 2k+ and 6700 and 6800xts for like 1k so
Still, you could probably find a rx 570 for that price š
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZKWLZZ
I'd hate to break it to you but.. >
I wouldn't get that case though
Lancool II mesh, p400a digital, p500a, and most of the phanteks eclipse line are really good
why not just get windows for like 20
I agree, except the 5800x is a great overclocker
PBO2, curve optimiser, extended limit. +200 offset
5.05GHZ boost
4.85-4.9GHZ sustained multi core load
Performs better than anything
Corsair B-Die is a myth lol, much more likely you get Rev E, except the Rev E is such low bin youād rather take C-Die from anybody else
Corsair donāt rly do a kit that guarantees you anything decent
So always go Ballistix 3600cl16 B-Die, Rev E
Or Trident Z 3200CL14 if you want B die
windows is free
Well, depends how you get it
just, buy it legal from official store
or just crack it illigal for free, gray keys are just as bad lol
Iād always got for a legal but cheap key
that isnt legal lol
Itās always on discount somewhere
I got windows pro for Ā£40. It was fully legal, just pick up a pc magazine and youāll find a discount for windows somewhere
How do I know it was legal? Well, itās from a reputable magazine so 99% sure
It was like 85% off
still wouldent waste money on it tbh
Just realised, since weāre getting windows 11 upgrades for free
Will I get windows 11 pro upgrade for free?
probably not how it works
Or does everybody get windows 11 home?
since your account is bound to it
the upgrade will be just activated already
since you already bought a key
Ye, but since I have 10 pro will I get upgraded to 11 pro or 11 home?
idk
Hopefully pro, but not sure what the benefits will be
Seeing as windows 11 is meant to be a gamer OS now
let stand ill wait for a crack first lol
Imagine if they make better performance locked to pro
Fair enough
mweh
Ye TPM2.0 is on like any amd motherboard this and last gen I think
they still didnt do anything for file exploder with multiple tabs
The only reason Iām getting w11 is for direct storage basically
The extra security is nice
But thatās about it
gpu prices are going down
cool name
traps you in icue
issues with xmp
These are both not entirely true, Vengeance RGB works in Asus Aura through a plugin and also OpenRGB and SignalRGB
The XMP issues were only something on Zen and Zen+ and issues currently are just defective sticks (LPX kits have a pretty high RMA rate, up to 4% on some kits)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08N3DSGNF not good for the price but it's a v4.31 kit, well binned b-die
Buy Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 4000 (PC4-3200) C16 1.35V AMD Optimized Desktop Memory - Black: Memory - Amazon.com ā FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
4000 16-16-16
Yourāll defo need to de-lid or get a ram cooler with such a small heatsink
it runs that at 1.4v
But ye thatās not bad actually - price
At what temps š¤£
But tbf 4000-16 is pretty great
yeah that's one of the very very few decent kits corsair has
Iād still take trident z 3200cl14 tho
mhm
or something like patriot viper
drops to $100-110 for 4000cl19 kits frequently
Trident looks cool tho š

But itās pretty expensive
oloy blades were also really good
until arshia bought their entire stock or something lol
i think he screened all the kits and sold them for a profit
mhm
that's an extremely high price for 4000 cl16
indeed
that's not the point i was making with it though
just saying corsair does have a consistently good kit
Ig
no
Absolutely terrible deal, actually
Whoever is trying to pawn off that system for that price should be arrested tbh that's downright criminal
3k what? Iām guessing dollars, no thatās a horrific deal, that kinda pc could be sold for less than 1k
Yea 3k dollars. That's what i thought but was just wondering
scam
you can buy that for much cheaper
Im getting this pc for 500ā¬
I5-10400f asus B560-A
2x8gb 3600mhz Patriot Cl16
I have ssd 2x512gb kingston kc600
Gpu waiting price to go down so im not buying it
Cooler Master Mwe White V2 700w
Case Ms Titan Pro 2
And fans Artics P12 5 piece 4pins
Also cooler Be Quet Dark Pro air cooler
Guy who was selling i5-10500 sold it :(
that isnt even worth a third of it
Thatās actually reasonable
If you could get a cheap 3060 with that
Perfecto
I will try 2080 ti to find or 3080
Also i will get i9-11gen later for gaming
I wanna play 4k with 200+ fps
3060 is terrible
'terrible'
2060s with more vram for more money
worth its name of terrible.
1080 ti even being better
for cheaper out of used market
Wut?
Please be quiet
āMore vramā š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Cpu doesnāt matter at 4K especially. However because of poor smt support intel has an advantage, if you turn off smt in bios and run ur 8-10 cores at higher clocks you can get a 5-15% FPS boost depending on game settings.
You can do the same for amd, however you wonāt get an especially good gain from turning hyper-threading off
DLSS will help a lot with 4K gaming
it is true..... lmao
it just a 2060s with more vram on top of it...
A 2060 super has more vram than a 3060???
thats literally the 3060
Are you sure
A 2060 super has 8gb
Yeah, he's saying it's a 2060 super with more vram
Ohhhh I read it as a 2060 super has more vram š
thats it
3060 is better than 2060 super
basicly same... kekw
it does rtx a little better
Well itās slightly better in games, but dlss and ray tracing will get a decent performance boost
The vram means nothing on either card
no one cares about RTX in terms of using ray tracing itself when it runs for jack shit
Ray Tracing looks great, especially with dlss
2060 super with better tx
Unless your playing an FPS game turn it on
and for a good price
And better performance in general
1080 ti >>
not too much better but yeah
A 1080ti for £250?
are u dumb
no, you are to ignorant to not willing to accept that its true
yea its probs been used for years
And the U.K. is pretty good for pc components right now
dont get me wrong 1080 ti is a great card
do i have to explain that?
What other prices are you gunna use then?
you simply dont use todays market due to this shit hole.
Heās not gunna wait 3/4 of a year to get a 1080ti for a decent price
for the price 3060 is amazing
cheaper than the 2060 super and its better
yea ik but were talking about msrp
thats useless, since then we can use 1080 ti old pricing aswell
like the msrp of the 3060 is cheaper than the 2060 super and its better
Depends where, you lose a lot of features with a 1080ti too
that true
but not to forget
ray tracing for example will still run terrible
since the cards performance is just not good enough
If all people cared about was base FPS, we would all be using team red cards
it wont be that bad
like 2060 story
doesnt have to be true
since its like red team on lower budgets, lets say rx 470/570/480/580
even on the 2060 rtx performance is still relatively decent depending on what settings u have and what game
then you have 1070/ti/1080/ti
The 6000 series is faster than NVidiaās offerings, simple as. But NVidia offers all rtx features, nvenc etcā¦.
and then we have some combining red/green teams
A 3060 can do most games at 60fps 1080p ray traced
yea
You might have to use dlss
But ultra quality dlss will help with 1080p looking good
still wouldent buy a 3060 in any situation
i have a 2070 which is pretty similar to the 3060 and i can get 60 fps on all ultra 1080p on cold war
if you really want that much to play on ray tracing or whateverr, at least get a card that can do it
instead of something that is not worth to buy
like rtx on ultra other settings are at high to ultra
A 3060 can do ray tracing well lol
yea
Wait rly? I did ultra and got 90-140fps with a 3070 ultra
Oh were you not using dlss?
no dlss
Ahhh right
also 3070 is way better than the 2070
True
Lol as to be expected
the thing is is that with 20 series they didnt have than many rt cores
so rtx isnt as good
But the original point was, the guys build suited a 3060
yea
They had more actually
they didnt
But they were so much less efficient
2080super has like 88 rt cores
But a 3070 has like 40 something
Yes still performs better
no they do have more rt cores
Oops I was thinking of tensor cores
yea me too
For dlss
So 3090 would be best?
Well... in terms of raw performance yeah
No it wouldn't
it would
for gaming performance
only by a few frames
im pretty sure anyway
linus did a video on it
only is some games tho
Huh, maybe so then
theres a few results
yea
its something to do with the vram
since theres less on the 3080 ti
i cant remember
3080ti better
Much lower temps
Better for Overclocking
The double layer vram is stupidly hot
On a 3090
3080ti is cheaper
And if you overclock itāll boost higher
yes
He just explained
Im reading it now
ik it was something to do with over clocking
but i didnt know it had much lower temps
Vram is on both sides, but the cooler is usually minimal on the other side, so you end up with vram hitting 90-100oC
LTT did a comparison when they reviewed the double layer water block for it
yea
i watched it ages ago so i forgot most of the info
but yea i can see how that would cause thermal issues
Also 3080ti sounds better š
Yep
3090 isnāt intended for gamers
Even if you play at 8k you wonāt need 24gb of vram
yea
8gb would be ok
Ngl Overclocking in this heat is pain
30oC ambient
Everything is steaming hot
lol
3080ti is kinda pointless
the same way the 3090 is
it costs so much more than the 3080 while performing less than 10% better
but at this point it's not like you have much of a choice with what GPU you end up with
Ye
Im getting this pc for 1000ā¬
-I5 10400f (10th gen)
Rtx 2060
16gb ram 3200mhz
1tb ssd
512gb hdd
man, if only the generation was included somewhere along the naming schemes of the cpus
doesn't seem that bad right now for 1k, it's just weird that it's a 1tb ssd and 512gb hdd
and two last gen parts
ye i dont know them all out of my memory
Wierd storage setups, but itās not terrible for the price
whats the cheapest possible and decent gaming pc?
@queen violet
Ummm what area( US, U.K. etcā¦)
And what budget? @mossy spear
Itās very hard to give you a ācheapā and decent gaming pc
Because what is cheap to you
So budget is usually the easiest, if you donāt have one a general range is ok
eu currently
Any price range?
any parts that would make a decent one?
Which country? If you prefer not so say thatās fine.
i have a place where i can pick up parts but
Just makes it easier to find individual parts or pre-builds
ive only seen amd cpus
Are you looking for a pre-build or build yourself?
Or just whatever is cheaper and better
pre builds from aboard are like 700 shipping so thats a no for me
honestly the guys are building it there. but yeah cheaper better
Oke
Iām basing the pcpartpicker list on France btw
Not sure how accurate it will be to you
Thanks
wait hol up i found a AMD ryzen 5 3600XT for 330 euros
manli nvidia GTX 1650 4gb for 420
a corsair airflow case 257r for 120
Hmmm in France you can get a 3700x for ā¬200
And a 1660 super for ā¬430
But that probably wonāt be accurate for you, cause every country is different
motherboard gigabyte b450 gaming x am4 for 140
a power supply PSU be quiet system power 9 700 w
A 3600xt is pretty pointless especially for that price
The 1650 is very expensive for ā¬420 too
What games you planning on playing?
my total with storage ram and others 1333
Hmmm in Germany my total is ā¬985
In France itās ā¬1080
You know what, Iāll send you the list, then you can change it to your country, if itās too high Iāll edit it
fortnite cod gta and no at max settings i wana atleast get a smooth 60 frames thats all i ndeed
well if it can run fortnite or cod it can run other games like minecraft
msg arent coming ffs
Cod will be harder to run
total is 1160 for me
Ok, Iāll try change things around and see if itās lower
the gpu is like 540
and the ssd
for 120 mby a cheaper gpu?
sorry the gpu is 456
not 540
u here?
Do you mind if the motherboard is micro ATX(wonāt fill the case fully)
Yep
yuh sure
can someone recommend a gpu thats like cheap and in california and can do 4K gaming at a minimum of 60 fps
Anything relatively modern, 2000 series, 3000 series, 5700xt, 6000 series. All will do 4K at reasonable settings
NVidia cards past and including 2000 series have dlss which helps with 4K performance
Any better? @mossy spear If I need to knock ā¬30-40 off I can select a 512gb ssd
ty
is i3 10 gen good?
Itās ok for gaming yep
Might struggle in a game like Warzone
Which likes multi core performance
Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
What are the other specs?
wait leme see
Gigabyte B460M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory
Asus GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card
Cooler Master MasterWatt 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case
Kingston A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Thermaltake UX100 38.82 CFM CPU Cooler
what changes shall i make to lower it a bit to 850
Check if their is cheaper case and motherboard
mby ram?
I guess you can check the ram too
Ram should be about ā¬70-80 for 16gb
2666mhz ram is fine
Since your motherboard will limit you to 2666mhz anyway
Lol anyone selling 2 8gb corsair dominators
Why dominators specifically?
Iād go Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 or Trident Z 3200 CL14 if you want to splash out(Much higher Overclocking headroom)
I want four as a set and I want to fill the rest of my slots
Honestly, I would spend the extra ā¬30 to get 16gb
Especially if you want to play games like Cod
how much ram u have?
16gb
16gb is the ideal amount, itās pretty budget, but is enough for any game
8gb can start to run out very quickly
is 250 w alright?
i can get extra ram from my friends or later on when u have my birthday so ill stick with 8
i *
For a psu? Or your total power draw?
Ok, fair enough
You might struggle to play cod tho
Iāve never really seen a 250 watt power supply, and they are usually bombs when really cheap
So Iām guessing you mean the pcpartpicker power draw
only the case
wait what
^
If you use pcpartpicker you could probably find a decent deal from another website in your area
i gtg now thanks for ur help c ya tmr
Np man, cya
yeah i pressed buy on amazon
and nothing showed up
@queen violet i have 16 i forgot they are 8gb each
guys is the Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor a good cpu?
at the right price, it's decent
shall i get a i5 7 or 6 gen?
yeah but i see my friends pc run smothely with it
he has a 750 nvidia something 8 ram 800 storage andan i5 7 gen
cuz i want a cheap but good pc like 800 euros
what about the Asus GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card?
idk what to pick man
ive seen a super nice pree build but shipping is like 700 dollars :(
thats like 5 i3 cpus
Iād probably prefer an I5-10400f in a build for ā¬800
And 16gb of ram, but GpU prices mean a card that should be ā¬200 max is ā¬350
So you lose a lot of budget and freedoms like that now
Well, 16gb is fine lol but if you want to get 32gb or fill slots for Zen3 you could always sell your kit now and get some ballistix
Hey sorry new to pc gaming, was looking at steelseries website and it sent me here not to technically tech savvy just moved from working and living in rural Western Australia cattle station as a farm hand and getting ready to study in the big smoke of syd one of me mates told me to build a pc i am used to building Utes fences and any thing other then computers, just a cowboy not tech savvy someone help
What
Building a pc itself is usually a pretty easy job.
There is a reason itās called adult Lego
Iām guessing your wondering about parts?
Yah nah yah pretty much
Like I ordered a ready to run pc do i have to put the thing together?
Yeah how do i do that
Photo, link etcā¦
Shouldnāt get warned or kicked
Itās the correct channel, I send links for pcpartpicker here all the time
You can send either as long as it's related to the topic :]
Scorptec Cryo GTX 1660 Super Gaming PC, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core, AMD B450 Chipset, GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB, 16GB 3200MHz RAM, 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD, 2TB HDD, Thermaltake S100 Case, 550W PSU, Win 10 Home at Scorptec.com.au, the online Gaming PC, server computer and technology experts. Fast delivery to Australia.
Thatās it
It will come pre assembled (unless otherwise stated)
Thank goodness
Pre-assembled/Pre-build
$1899 dollars seems high tho?
Yeah it does
Oh, AUD?
I forgot the exchange rate for a sec
Australia ye
Right
Bro I donāt know what i was getting my room mate was like you need a pc and he sent me the link
Yeah
For Ā£1000 itās high but in the current climate thatās not too bad
Should get whatever your using it for done pretty well
Idk what keyboard and mouse and monitor i have a benq
Looking for something from steelseries then?
Yeah
Apex 7 TKL is very nice, but if you need cheaper Apex 5 is also good
Do you know the difference between switches? We can explain if you donāt
Idk brother first time gaming on a pc I donāt want low end stuff more mid to high range
What do you think
Is there a point in getting the best with a mid range pc
Might be for you
But it all depends on what switch types you prefer. Blue being loud clicky keys which have a noticeable bump when pressing. Red being quieter and no bump, or Brown being clicky but less of a bump and slightly quieter than blues
If that makes any sense
Most people prefer blues or browns for typing, and reds or browns for gaming
You mean quieter than blue?
None of them will be especially quiet due to the construction of the board itself
Like i have been playing on my side girlās, brothers pc on the down low and there pretty cashed up
Easiest way to check what switches you prefer is to go to a hardware shop and ask if you can test switches
If you canāt do that, then its kinda what your use is
Always a good idea, or buy a switch tester if there isn't a store near you
Brownās are a safe bet, but if you donāt like the clickiness of keyboards youāve tried go redās
Online
Amazon etcā¦
Buy one ?
Or that same company you bought ur pc from if they have it
They won't have any
Ye they are quite cheap, itās better to spend Ā£10-15 on a tester and get the right keyboard than get a Ā£100+ keyboard and not like the switches when you get it
I just want to know what keyboard and mouse to get I donāt want a lower end keyboard more mid to higher keyboard and mouse
It's completely up to 

so it's hard to say
We canāt really tell you what mouse and keyboard to get
Itās purely what suits your hand position
And what feels good to you
Apex 7 with reds and a prime mouse (wired or wireless) would be a safe bet. Return them if you hate them.
Okay sounds like try and error
Pretty much. Difficult to say exactly what you want if you haven't tried anything similar before.
sort of, more like testing/viewing out houses before you buy one
Apex 7 is that ipx
Waterproof? No.
It might be water-resistant to an extent, but if you run it while wet itāll most likely die
So if it gets wet unplug and donāt plug it back in for a good day or 2
Going to get Apex pro and RIVAL 650 WIRELESS i got a mouse pad should i get a new one and cables hurt my head how do i organise them
I can't say if you should get a new mousepad when I know nothing about your old one
Cable managing the apex lineup is hard because they use a thick non detachable cable. The cleanest route is to drill a hole in your desk and route is down, otherwise there's not much you can do.
Apex pro is a safe bet because it can basically imitate most switches