#💻-building-a-pc

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raw marsh
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Congrats

lament pawn
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And I had to compare both generation's boxes

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Now my 3090 will have no problems with my CPU anymore

lament pawn
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I will probably do the cross with my thermal paste

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Doing a pea sized paste didn't really cut it with my current one

raw marsh
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The pea was probably too small then

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I don't think there's much of a difference between application methods

lament pawn
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Cause i casually reached 70°C while playing

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And idle is around 40-55

raw marsh
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That doesn't sound bad, although it's difficult to judge because I have no idea what cooler you're using

lament pawn
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3600 not the X one

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And i'm using a Hyper 212 Black

raw marsh
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70° sounds fine then

idle bridge
lament pawn
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Do I find it normal that the 5800x hits 80°C?

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When in a game

raw marsh
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80 is fine under sustained load

lament pawn
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It kept rising to 87-88

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I'm just saying

raw marsh
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What, do you think you've done something wrong? Undervolt if you're worried about the temps

lament pawn
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Well I thought I didn't apply enough paste

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Cause the thing was nearly empty

raw marsh
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You can always buy more and reapply

lament pawn
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I did not even an hour ago

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It will arrive tomorrow so I can reapply some

static pecan
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@lament pawnFrom what I understand the 5800X can get up to low-mid 80s under full sustained load so like Mel said just apply more thermal paste and if you're really worried about temps that much then get a beefier cooler

crimson scroll
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the 5800x does usually run hot

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89 is on the iffy side for me, i'd get a better cooler and make sure your paste job is good. could probably undervolt too like melker said, stock voltages are almost always set high

lament pawn
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What cooler would be good for it actually

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Cause I already ordered a new paste

raw marsh
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Arctic liquid cooler 240/280 is good if you want an AIO

lament pawn
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I rather stick to air cooling

raw marsh
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NH-D15 then

crimson scroll
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which cooler do you have now?

lament pawn
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Hyper 212 black

crimson scroll
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ok i wasn't sure if you were using that on your 3600 or not

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that's kind of a wimpy cooler for the 5800x

lament pawn
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I was

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So I guess I need to go NH-D15 then

crimson scroll
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eh

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i mean, there's lots of large tower coolers you can go for

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zalman cnps20x, nh-d15, assassin 3, dark rock pro 4

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even the fuma 2

lament pawn
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I don't have much space for an AIO rn

crimson scroll
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top mount?

lament pawn
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Nah there's the tempered glass that goes on top

crimson scroll
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what case

lament pawn
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It's a thermal take

crimson scroll
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what model i mean

lament pawn
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I think it's the 27

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Argb

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No wait

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Wrong one

crimson scroll
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doesn't look the same

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has a shroud and the gull wing isn't as much window

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view 37 argb maybe

lament pawn
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Yea that one

crimson scroll
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looks like you can put rads on the side next to the motherboard

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could also remove the front fans and add a rad

lament pawn
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What would be better actually to replace my current cooler or replace the fans directly

crimson scroll
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well, replacing your current cooler no matter what if you don't like the temps

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but you can do both

lament pawn
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I rather spend minimal to get efficient temps

crimson scroll
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just replace the cooler then

lament pawn
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With this one

crimson scroll
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check how much the 360 liquid freezer II is then

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109 euros is a lot for the nh-d15, even if it's chromax

lament pawn
crimson scroll
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i'd just get that

lament pawn
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And remove the frontal fans

crimson scroll
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yeah

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the cooler comes with fans anyways

lament pawn
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Seems legit

crimson scroll
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literally chart topping

raw marsh
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Yeah im using it, it's good

crimson scroll
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you can technically do better thermally, but noise normalized it's one of the top three

lament pawn
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Aight i'll get that if its really desperate

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If this thermal paste doesn't cut it i'll go with that AIO

crimson scroll
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eh

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just go with arctic mx2 or mx4 imo

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should be cheaper

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cheaper for an enormous tube

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this is the one i use and it's fine, unless you do hardcore overclocking most of the pastes from reputable sellers are fine

lean quarry
crimson scroll
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8 is a lot, it's lasted me through like 10+ repastings and i have half left

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but it's also not that much more expensive than the 4g so...

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might as well get it

timid wind
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What about this
Corsair A500 High Performance Dual Fan CPU Cooler, CT-9010003-WW

crimson scroll
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eh.

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not unless it's like $30 and then it's still more effort than it's worth imo

rough jacinth
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Massive

lament pawn
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I'm gonna order that Arctic Cooler and i thought of taking an exhaust fan

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I dunno which one to go for

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I guess this will do

raw marsh
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The p120 is for static pressure, not airflow

lament pawn
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Still better than the current fans i got in my case

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I cant get them to full speed

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Cause they arent connected to the motherboard cause no connectors for it

raw marsh
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Why does that mean you have you buy a static pressure fan

lament pawn
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Cause my exhaust fan is really close to the wall

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That may sound dumb actually

crimson scroll
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P12 is fine for airflow

lament pawn
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I just realised since its a 360m radiator

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I gotta get rid of my drive cage

crimson scroll
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you mean 360mm?

lament pawn
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Yea

pastel mist
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360 meter rad

crimson scroll
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Spaceship rad

pastel mist
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cooling off an entire building lmao

lament pawn
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Look my RGB fans are useless in my case

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Gotta replace em with something KEKW

night trail
lean quarry
crimson scroll
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static pressure = situations where you have obstructions

lean quarry
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Thanks

noble oak
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steel series make only good keyboards and mouses

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componets sucks

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back in the day steel series tried to make componets

lean quarry
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?

rough jacinth
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What

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Ok

merry spire
noble oak
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T

dense venture
steady vector
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so im building a buget pc and i dont know what gpu to get it has to be lp any wanna help

crimson scroll
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you should define your budget first

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and what you want to do with the system

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right now, it's really hard to get a gpu anyways

steady vector
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buget 200

crimson scroll
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for the entire pc?

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get an old optiplex

steady vector
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no

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i have the sff 3020

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i just need a gou

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gpu

crimson scroll
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well, i don't know what gpus will fit in there but at first glance you're looking at a gpu that doesn't need a 6 pin pcie power

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so something like a 1050ti

steady vector
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will it work on a 255 watt psu

crimson scroll
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depends on the other components

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but considering the pcie express standard is 75w through the slot, yes

steady vector
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i have a i5 4590 and 2x4 ddr3 ram

crimson scroll
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most other components you'd pair on a 255w psu won't draw very much

steady vector
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so it will work

crimson scroll
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it should, yes

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only 84w tdp on that i5

steady vector
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ok

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does ram need power

crimson scroll
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yes

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every component needs power

steady vector
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would a 2x8 ddr3 ram kit work with the 1050ti

crimson scroll
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i mean, yeah

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there's not really a direct relation between the two

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the question you'd be asking is if ddr3 would work with your motherboard chipset and cpu

steady vector
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do u know the motherboard on the dell otiplex 3020 sff

crimson scroll
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no

steady vector
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ok

crimson scroll
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but the i5 4590 supports ddr3

steady vector
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i know that but

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i don't know what ram to get

crimson scroll
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you already have ram, no?

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just get 2x8 if you want more

steady vector
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i do but it's only 8 gigs

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it 2x4

crimson scroll
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i know

steady vector
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i think the motherboard slot uses PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM SODIMM

crimson scroll
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laptop ram basically

steady vector
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ok

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if i get a new psu what will i need if i want to still use the oem board

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will the rx 550 be good

crimson scroll
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i mean

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if you can get one at a reasonable price

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and it fits

steady vector
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i found one for 187

crimson scroll
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eh

steady vector
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would the 1650 work will my pc

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lp model

crimson scroll
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the 550 shouldn't be more than $100

steady vector
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would the 1650 lp work with my psu

crimson scroll
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and yes, a 1650 would work if it's a model without an external power connector

steady vector
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it would work with a 255 watt psu

crimson scroll
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yes

steady vector
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where should i get it

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from

crimson scroll
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wherever you can find it at a reasonable price i guess

steady vector
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what is the msrp

crimson scroll
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150

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but good luck with that

steady vector
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what gpu do u have

crimson scroll
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5700xt

steady vector
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wait would the 1650 lp fit

crimson scroll
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it should, yes

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depends on the height of the specific model you buy i guess

steady vector
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its the sff

crimson scroll
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yeah, so measure your case, then look at the dimensions of the specific model of 1650 you're looking at

steady vector
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would the MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GT LP 4GB GDDR5 HDMI/DL-DVI-D PCI-Express Video Card work

crimson scroll
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looks like it should, yes

steady vector
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it but dam

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the price

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any good place to get it from

crimson scroll
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not really lol

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like i said, gpus right now are very hard to get

steady vector
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i know just from all the 3090's and covid

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wait will the gpu fit in the pcie slot

crimson scroll
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yes

steady vector
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ok

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dam the gpu used to be 250

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would getting a used card from amazon be a good idea

crimson scroll
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eh

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i mean, easy return policy, but lots of scams

steady vector
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so not a good idea

crimson scroll
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it's just annoying to deal with, it's fairly safe

idle bridge
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Ethereum shot up to 4,2k and is now at 3,6k, GPU prices ;-;

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they too high

raw marsh
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I don't think there's a direct correlation to gpu prices and eth...

idle bridge
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The more profitable Ethereum is, the more miners want to buy cards such as the RTX 3080 and 3090

raw marsh
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They always wanted to buy cards

idle bridge
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This causes Nvidia to produce more of the more profitable cards (They have a higher profit margin) and prioritize other cards less

raw marsh
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No

idle bridge
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  • already high demand for GPUs
idle bridge
# raw marsh No

So you're saying that Nvidia are not producing more of the cards that make then earn more money?

raw marsh
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They're producing all the cards they can, they have a quota for each I assume

idle bridge
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They have the cards that they've made deals with retailers with, but other that they're gonna be more incentivised to make the higher profit cards when they can

raw marsh
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They don't need more of an incentive when every card gets sold out instantly

idle bridge
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They have when they earn more money pr card for a 3090 than a 3060 ti

steady vector
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does anyone know if Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 D6 WINDFORCE OC 4G (rev. 2.0) Graphics Card, 172mm Compact Size, 4GB 128-Bit GDDR6, GV-N1656WF2OC-4GD REV2.0 Video Card fit a sff case

crimson scroll
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it should, yes

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but you should really specify that it's the sff 3020

steady vector
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so its a single slot

steady vector
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does anyone know how to messure a pcie slot in a sff dell opiplex 3020

crimson scroll
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all pcie slots are the same

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it's a standard

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what you want to measure is the available space in the case

steady vector
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yeah

crimson scroll
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so get a ruler

steady vector
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ok

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would the iphone measuring app work

raw marsh
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Not very well, no

crimson scroll
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sure

raw marsh
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I mean roughly maybe

steady vector
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would it be close

crimson scroll
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or just get a ruler app on your phone

steady vector
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ok

steady vector
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hello anyone here

raw marsh
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Yeah

lament pawn
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I got the fan inside rooHappy

steady vector
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is new egg safe

raw marsh
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yes

steady vector
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would the gtx 1650 lp work on a 255 watt psu

crimson scroll
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Like I told you already, likely yes, but it depends on the other components, and since you only have an i5-4590, yes

steady vector
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it would work with 2x4 ddr3 ram right

crimson scroll
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Yes

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Please read previous conversations carefully so we don't have to repeat ourselves three times

steady vector
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and when i add 2x8 ddr3 1600

static pecan
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Yes it'll be fine

steady vector
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can someone help me find a lp gtx 1650

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single slot

crimson scroll
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You found two models on your own already

steady vector
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yeah

crimson scroll
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And you know about Newegg and amazon

steady vector
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would a used like new gpu be good

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will pci express 3.0 work on my motherboard

crimson scroll
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Depends and yes

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Like I said, Amazon isn't very high risk for used stuff

steady vector
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do reading reviews matter

crimson scroll
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Some are fake

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Use a review checking website

steady vector
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ok

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wait what is a good one

timid wind
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Is steel series rival 5 has braided cable ?

crimson scroll
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mesh cable

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the product page tells you

lament pawn
languid hatch
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anyone know where a 3080 white water block is

lament pawn
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It takes form but still its a mess

timid wind
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What a clean cable management 👌

craggy sparrow
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Yeah

timid wind
crimson scroll
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it's not a white aio cooler

timid wind
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sry bro 😅
Wrongly understood

crimson scroll
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lol you're good

timid wind
crimson scroll
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means don't worry about it

timid wind
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Hm
New to "these short words long meanings "
😁

lament pawn
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Well i no longer have to worry about thermals now

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Might look not great but still I tried my best

tall cove
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Sheesh

noble lynx
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Does anyone know if this is a good gaming laptop?? Wouldn’t pay much more for it..

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Price now: 1599€

raw marsh
lament pawn
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Some people said that i should switch the pipes placement

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From top to bottom

raw marsh
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Yeah that's a better idea, reduces noise and increases longevity

lament pawn
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I'll do that tomorrow

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I'm way too tired for it

crimson scroll
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cpu block isn't above the top of the rad though, it's fine

lament pawn
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I used the second offset

lament pawn
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So my cpu hovers between 63-67°C

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Gpu is apparently stuck at 59°C

pastel mist
crimson scroll
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mine idles that high because the fans don't spin up until it's under load

pastel mist
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on purpose?

crimson scroll
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cpu is kind of hot but since it's a 5800x it's...fine

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yeah on purpose cas

pastel mist
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ah okay, i didnt know if you put a fan curve or not, but yeah,

lament pawn
drifting flint
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hello my ryzen 5 3600 is hitting 90c with the stock cooler i think i need a upgrade
i want a air cooler what looks decent and really good performance
my price range is £30-80

crimson scroll
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fuma 2

abstract swan
lament pawn
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Good luck trying to get the whole set cause its more than 2K

brittle parrot
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Not sure

steady vector
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what is the wattage for the i5 4590

pastel mist
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you trying to calculate a builds wattage?

raw marsh
crimson scroll
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your 255w psu is enough

steady vector
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for lp gtx 1650 how do i take off the bracket to put the lp one on

bleak summit
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is a intel i7 10700k with rtx 2060 good?

crimson scroll
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sure

crimson scroll
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smh

tall cove
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sadge

static pecan
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It do be like that sometimes

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Imagine not reading the rules when you join a Discord server 😳

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Couldn't be me

dense venture
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what- happened?

crimson scroll
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don't worry about it

dense venture
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ok ._.

pure herald
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Can someone suggest me some parts for the cheapest PC that had at least 8 GB RAM?

pure herald
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Around 400 350

timid wind
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400 usd ?

pure herald
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Yes

timid wind
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Hm good budget for mid range pc 😭

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Is that only for cpu or for full setup ?

pure herald
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Can you tell me the difference?

timid wind
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Full setup means cpu and peripheral

pure herald
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Peripheral as in mouse and keyboard?

timid wind
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S

pure herald
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Then no

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I already have them

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Just the CPU I guess

timid wind
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Ok I'll get
However amd or intel build ?

pure herald
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I'm not smart when it comes to computers

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I don't know

timid wind
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Ok I'll search and tell
Pls wait

pure herald
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K

whole mulch
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My PC got built by a friend and I so can’t wait to get it in my hands

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Any recommendations for cable management on desk?

raw marsh
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Nice looking build, just get some cable ties for the back and it'll be fine

whole mulch
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Well I also have a Xbox and PlayStation by my desk to so lmfao

raw marsh
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Ok?

whole mulch
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I don’t like the cable ties much don’t think it looks good tbh

raw marsh
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Why does it matter how they look if it's for the back

noble oak
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um which brand should i go with on my pc to get built should i go with ironside?

crimson scroll
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i recommend building your own

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ironside has 8gb of memory on their $1800 ryzen build

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ridiculous

noble oak
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ok

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how much is the latest geforce graphics card

crimson scroll
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depends on which one

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also they're pretty much all being scalped right now

noble oak
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any good sites i can get the stuff on

crimson scroll
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not really

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if you get lucky, best buy or the evga queue

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but you're super late to the evga queue at this point

noble oak
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ok ill try best buy

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thank you

crimson scroll
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yep, gl

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there's some guides out there on how to get their drops

noble oak
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best buys all out of 3080

crimson scroll
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yes

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they do drops

noble oak
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would a ryzen 5 be a good cpu

crimson scroll
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depends on which r5 and at what price

noble oak
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its a 4th gen

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for 300

crimson scroll
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you mean the r5 5600x then?

noble oak
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yes

crimson scroll
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300 is msrp

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it's fine, but the 11600k is usually cheaper and pretty comparable

noble oak
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any powerbank recommendations

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they dont have a ryzen 11600k but they have a Intel - Core i5-11600K 11th Generation - 6 Core - 12 Thread - 3.9 to 4.9 GHz - LGA1200 - Unlocked Desktop Processor

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does that work

crimson scroll
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yeah, the 11600k is intel

noble oak
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ok

noble oak
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any recomended cases

noble oak
crimson scroll
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i would recommend airflow focused cases

noble oak
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ok cool

crimson scroll
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drifting flint
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what would be a nice cpu cooler for a ryzen 5 3600

raw marsh
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Looks like you've already got a good idea of it

crimson scroll
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those are all nice

drifting flint
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i like the dark rock 4 but would that be a good or do i go more expensive

crimson scroll
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i have the fuma 2 on my 5600x in a mini itx system and it's nice and quiet

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doesn't go above 80c unless i run folding@home

raw marsh
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Huh? Why would you need to go 'more expensive'?

drifting flint
drifting flint
raw marsh
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That's not a good reason

drifting flint
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i know

raw marsh
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Nor is it at all necessary

crimson scroll
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in general, there should be a reason to go more expensive

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whether it's aesthetics or performance or ease of use features

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with the coolers you listed, you're already hitting the top end of the air coolers

drifting flint
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i want my pc cool and not catch fire when i keep it on idle for a week

crimson scroll
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again, the ones you listed are all good

drifting flint
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what would look nicest in a white theme build?

raw marsh
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A white cooler...

crimson scroll
drifting flint
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i build it white theme but i dont want something what kills the whole thing

raw marsh
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Shadow rock 3 white, if you need a suggestion

drifting flint
crimson scroll
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incorrect

raw marsh
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If you say so

crimson scroll
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you will pay a premium for white in most cases, but the se 224-xt, gammax 400 white, freezer 34 esports duo, and galahad aios are all good in their respective tiers

noble oak
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saucy do i go with the p360 or the p400 case

crimson scroll
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p360a is cheaper usually

noble oak
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ok

drifting flint
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i tried to get the artic 34 freezer duo but not in stock

crimson scroll
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keep in mind a lot of cases may not include fans

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and the p360a has more stock than the p300a

noble oak
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couldnt find it on best buy found it on ebay

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wat about gpu

noble oak
crimson scroll
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i can't answer that for you because i don't know what you want to do with the system

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or your budget

noble oak
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idc just tell me a good gpu

crimson scroll
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i hate these kinds of questions, lol

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the 3080 is a "good" gpu

noble oak
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ok

crimson scroll
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so is the 1650

noble oak
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or somin

crimson scroll
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why?

noble oak
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the faster the better

raw marsh
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No

crimson scroll
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that's not how that works

noble oak
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oh

crimson scroll
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unless you happen to be computing extremely large datasets that eat all your ram

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for the most part, ram does not make your system faster

noble oak
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well the 3080 and the 1650 are sold out

crimson scroll
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yes, everything is

raw marsh
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Yeah, along with every other gpu

craggy sparrow
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I mean you could get something on back order

noble oak
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i forgot howto backorder

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and when i search gpu on best buy it comes up with graphics cards

raw marsh
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That's hardly surprising

noble oak
raw marsh
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When you search up graphics cards, you find graphics card. Who would've thought, right?

crimson scroll
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shocked pikachu face

noble oak
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shut up im new to this ok

crimson scroll
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it wasn't meant to make fun of you

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we're just very snarky

noble oak
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i found a 1030 would that work

crimson scroll
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it's pretty "meh"

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it's probably like $150 or something too

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right now is just a very bad time to try to get gpus

noble oak
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ok

heady sparrow
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is the Lenovo Legion any good for a good starter gaming laptop?

crimson scroll
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which one

heady sparrow
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Lenovo - Legion 5 15" Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 8GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - 512GB SSD - Phantom Black

crimson scroll
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for what price

heady sparrow
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1.6k

raw marsh
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That's not a good price

crimson scroll
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8gb, ouch

raw marsh
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Although I don't know what currency that is lol

heady sparrow
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usd

raw marsh
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So not good then

crimson scroll
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yeah, bad price

heady sparrow
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oh

crimson scroll
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for what it's worth, it's not easy at all to get any decent pc for a reasonable price right now

hoary path
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Hi, whats a good motherboard for ryzen 3900x? (not too expensive)

crimson scroll
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i'd look at b550 motherboards

hoary path
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Ok

hoary path
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is the Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard good?

crimson scroll
#

seems fine

#

at what price

hoary path
#

238 dollars

crimson scroll
#

yuck

raw marsh
#

Aorus b550 elite is more reasonable

crimson scroll
#

b550 aorus master would be my pick if you want decently high end

#

msi b550-a pro for slightly lower

hoary path
#

ok

steady vector
#

what is the msrp for the gtx 1650 lp

crimson scroll
noble oak
#

hey any one know what moniter i should get

raw marsh
#

Nope, we have no idea

crimson scroll
#

Everybody who asks for help needs to put specifics

raw marsh
#

But you could give us some pointers like your budget and requirements to help us help you

crimson scroll
#

We don't know what you want

#

What we can do is take your input on what you want and suggest stuff

noble oak
#

i want dual moniters

crimson scroll
#

Okay

noble oak
#

prob 4k

crimson scroll
#

Better

#

Specifics are good

#

What card are you driving them with?

raw marsh
#

You were looking at a 1030 a while back, u sure u want 4k?

noble oak
#

lettme see rn im using a all in one

noble oak
crimson scroll
#

High refresh rate?

#

What's your budget

noble oak
#

yes ofcourse

raw marsh
#

Are you planning on gaming with them?

noble oak
#

yes

crimson scroll
#

These are gonna be real expensive

raw marsh
#

High refresh 4k gets very expensive, if youre looking at 27 inches, 1440p is fine in terms of pixel density

noble oak
#

ok ill go with that

crimson scroll
#

so...what's your budget

noble oak
#

dont have

#

one\

crimson scroll
#

sigh

raw marsh
#

Well under $600? Under $1000?

crimson scroll
#

dell s2721dgf

noble oak
#

ill have my budget under 1000

raw marsh
#

For 1 monitor or both

noble oak
#

both

crimson scroll
#

two of those will run you below $900, maybe below $750 if you get a good sale

#

IPS, 27" 1440p 144hz

#

considered probably the best panel on the market at this res/refresh rate

raw marsh
#

You probably wont be gaming on both, so you only need 1 at that spec right? You can get a cheaper one for the other if you want.

noble oak
raw marsh
noble oak
#

ye

#

ok

raw marsh
#

Also you won't be able to tell between 1080p and 1440p in a picture anyway lol

noble oak
#

im just trying to go all out for this

crimson scroll
#

i disagree

raw marsh
#

No point in being careless with money

noble oak
#

fine fine

crimson scroll
#

1440p and 1080p, definitely a big difference

raw marsh
#

Of course, but in an image taken from a phone?

crimson scroll
#

yeah but the real thing that matters is the experience while using them

#

even though we're memeing about doing it just to show off

noble oak
#

ok what should the second moniter be

raw marsh
#

Could be the same, as saucy suggests

crimson scroll
#

are you just going to use it for things like spotify, discord, youtube?

noble oak
#

yes

#

of course

crimson scroll
#

i'm hesitant to say go 60hz on that, or even 75hz

noble oak
#

who dosent

crimson scroll
#

because some people (like myself) are really sensitive to that after going to 144hz

#

so i can't really say how you'll react to that

noble oak
#

ill go with 60 on the second

#

which one

crimson scroll
#

eh.

noble oak
#

wdym "eh:

crimson scroll
#

i would get an ips 1080p 60hz monitor for your secondary

#

ips so that the viewing angle will be better

noble oak
#

ok igochu

craggy sparrow
#

How much should 27” 144hz 1440p be?

crimson scroll
#

depends

#

but anywhere from 250-450 usually

craggy sparrow
#

I got mine for £150

crimson scroll
#

nice

craggy sparrow
#

I don’t think I’ll get a deal like that again

noble oak
#

ok i found an ips full HD 1920x1080 that good

#

its for 130$

raw marsh
#

Could be

crimson scroll
#

hard to get a stand that does full swivel/tilt/rotation at the lower end

raw marsh
#

Vesa compatibility so that's less of an issue

crimson scroll
#

Then you're spending more

noble oak
#

this my main

crimson scroll
#

And you might as well just get a better monitor

raw marsh
#

He still has room in his $1000 budget

crimson scroll
#

True

#

I mean, if we're looking to max it out, just get two of the s2721dgf

crimson scroll
#

the secondary

noble oak
#

then whats the main

raw marsh
#

"s2721dgf"

crimson scroll
raw marsh
#

haha that's for sure

timid wind
#

Is 24 inch monitor enough for gaming and video editing ?

raw marsh
#

How are we supposed to judge that

#

There are a lot of different 24 inch monitors, but the size itself is probably ok. For video editing you'd like a larger monitor, but something of that size would still be adequate

timid wind
#

Thanks 👍

pastel mist
timid wind
#

Sure

noble lynx
#

Hello guys, I want to ask, if the apex pro tkl is a good keyboard for 200€..

raw marsh
#

Might be if you need all the features which come with it

#

Personally I think it's too much for the quality of the stabs and all the rattle that comes with a prebuilt, but that can be said for every prebuilt keyboard

noble lynx
#

Yeah sry but thanks for answering

steady vector
#

if was going to get a better cpu for my dell optiplex 3020 sff with a 255 wat psu would it work with a gtx 1650 lp

crimson scroll
#

yes, in general there's no issues with any cpu and gpu

#

what you'd really be worried about is the motherboard, which is likely proprietary

steady vector
#

i would want to know what cpu to get if it’s not proprietary

crimson scroll
#

well, it's probably not worth, considering the motherboard is almost guaranteed to be locked

#

but a i7 4790 would work on the same chipset as the i5 4590

cerulean drift
#

!leaderboard

frosty sparrow
#

hello

timid wind
#

Guys benq BenQ Zowie XL2411P

Is good or bad for gaming?

raw marsh
#

It's a decent budget monitor, why would it be bad for gaming

timid wind
#

Coz its max hz is 144
But rtx 2070 give more than 144 fps
Will it suffer ?

raw marsh
#

No

timid wind
#

Hm
I thought it would

#

😅

dense venture
crimson scroll
#

i run my stuff at 400fps on a 144hz monitor, it's fine

#

freesync on, vsync off, no frame limit

dense venture
#

Yeah, you can do that, thing is overtime your GPU is just gonna kill itself trying to hard 😂

#

Its expected to give what it wants, and it gives its all.

crimson scroll
#

nah

#

my gpu doesn't go above 60c

dense venture
#

Watercooled?

crimson scroll
#

nope

#

accelero 3

#

my 5700xt runs hotter for sure, gets to 75ish

dense venture
#

1080 ti?

#

ah

crimson scroll
#

yeah, 1080ti

dense venture
#

I have a 1070, everything has been upgraded in there besides the 1070 😭

crimson scroll
#

still a great card

dense venture
#

Yeah, its a Gaming G1

#

I wish to get a 2070S? But that seems to be one of the most wanted cards rn honestly. They can't get to 3000 series, so 2070S it is :P

crimson scroll
#

dunno about that, a 24" 720p monitor will probably be very annoying to properly video edit on

steady vector
#

if i was to get the gtx 1050 ti 4gb lp would it good for playing warzone

raw marsh
#

Not great

steady vector
#

so the 1650 lp 4gb would be better

raw marsh
#

A bit better

steady vector
#

how much in fps

raw marsh
#

Maybe 10%, I'm not sure

steady vector
#

it would get 75 fps right thats all i need

raw marsh
#

At 1080p medium settings you'd get around 70fps

#

But that's an estimate

steady vector
#

my monitor is 1600x900

raw marsh
#

Ok

steady vector
#

i can lock my fps to anything in warzone right

raw marsh
#

No idea

#

Look it up

steady vector
#

oh you can

night trail
#

one fan

#

1660 super OC, 144hz moniter

#

with no frame limit

#

this card

night trail
#

it can for sure go past 144 fps lol

#

without any problems

vital onyx
#

not a pc but a laptop

#

specs price is $1,349 CAD

#

i was wondering if that was better then this

#

specs price is $1,499 CAD

night trail
#

Better to just get a buildredux pre-built

#

Good price, good air cooling

#

Only thing you'd need to do is get a good mobo

#

since i heard they had bad ones

#

Unless you already have a pc

worldly bison
#

Yeah right now you're pretty much better off with a pre build or a laptop but as far as laptop goes keep in mind that type of power is going to be throttled back some compared to desktops because they only allow a certain amount of cooling to fit in those

vital onyx
#

yeah

#

the battery life on the first was was i think

#

3h

#

but i never take my laptop off the charging

night trail
#

Yeah just get a buildredux pc build

worldly bison
#

If you're going to do that remove the battery you'll damage the battery doing that way unless it's not removable

night trail
#

man i cant believe that for the first time ever getting a pre-built is better than a custom

crimson scroll
#

not the first time ever

#

there are use cases where you don't want to build your own

night trail
#

in price

#

i meant in price.

worldly bison
#

I'm so glad I built the majority of mine before the stock market crash of 2020-2021

night trail
#

buildredux is real good, it's just MSRP gpu with a whole pc

vital onyx
#

wont the laptop just die

night trail
#

so what you thinking johnn?

#

i dont think so since the charger is powering it right?

vital onyx
#

i wanted a laptop because its more portable

#

so i can use it for school

#

and bring it there

worldly bison
#

Not necessarily if the laptop doesn't have a battery it just bypasses it if you have it plugged in but the minute it gets unplugged it's just going to die

night trail
#

that'll look horrid at school lol

vital onyx
#

which the pc?

#

or the laptop

night trail
#

just get a buildredux pc, they'll probably get ya a chrombeook

#

laptop

vital onyx
#

bruh what

#

its clean

night trail
#

dont bring a pc at school

#

rgb keyboard?

#

kind of odd

vital onyx
#

no im not bringing a pc

#

a laptop

#

and i would change colours to white

night trail
#

alright dude

#

up to you

vital onyx
#

cus im not carrying around an rbg LMAO

night trail
#

if i were you i'd just stick to a chrome book and get a buildredux pc

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

worldly bison
#

Bro I remember bringing my whole simulator set up to school PC racing wheel pedals shifter knob and a monitor

night trail
#

makes me cringe just thinking of that

vital onyx
worldly bison
#

It was kind of the last day of school for that year so I decided to go all out I'm thinking this year I'm going to bring my whole VR set up

vital onyx
#

well

#

16gb ram 512gb ssd (or 1tb) rtx 3060 core i7 10th gen or a ryzen 7

worldly bison
#

As a last hara

night trail
#

i7 laptop cpu

#

for the windows 10 home just get a cheaper key or some shit

#

This is how mcuh it costs now

vital onyx
#

but then i need to get a monitor, keyboard and mouse

night trail
#

do you not have a keyboard or mouse lol

vital onyx
#

which is an extra prob $300

#

well i do but

night trail
#

just get a cheap kb and mouse

#

and slowly upgrade

vital onyx
#

wb a monitor

night trail
#

get a 60hz monitor shouldent be that much

#

or a cheap 144hz monitor to take advantage of the 3060

thorn orbit
#

pc

vital onyx
#

idk cause thats already more then my laptop

#

how come you say not to get a laptop

#

over a pc

night trail
#

pc lasts longer and is more easier to upgrade

#

unlike laptop

vital onyx
#

the only thing i cant do is upgrade graphics card

#

but it has a 3060

#

so i should b good for awhile

night trail
#

still pc's are more sustainable

#

idk man

vital onyx
#

also how does it last longer

night trail
#

just searched it up

worldly bison
#

@vital onyx um laptops you can't pull a cpu on they soldered in I work on my own as far as fixing them

night trail
#

laptops are far more susceptible to drops, spills, overheating, and food.

vital onyx
#

but i cant bring a pc to a friends house or school

worldly bison
#

Yea you can

vital onyx
#

without bringing a monitor and keyboard and mouse

night trail
#

your friend probably has

#

a monitor

#

and a keyboard and a mosue

worldly bison
#

A tv works just fine

vital onyx
#

wb school tho

night trail
#

with school they'll most likely hand you a chromebook

vital onyx
#

then u use the chromebook as a monitor?

worldly bison
#

No

night trail
#

what

vital onyx
#

what

#

ok what im saying is that i would rather have everything on one computer

worldly bison
#

@vital onyx Asus makes a portable monitor

vital onyx
#

then use a restricted chromebook

#

how big is the pc too

#

can it fit in a bag?

night trail
#

medium tower

vital onyx
#

does that site give dimensions

night trail
#

yes if it's big enough

#

also

worldly bison
#

I fit mine a suite case and it's mid tower

night trail
#

if you want to do schoolwork

#

just preferably do it at home

vital onyx
#

bruh

#

we do electronic work all the time at school

night trail
#

i mean if you have to do it at school yeah ig whatever but you can just continue it at home

#

oh

vital onyx
#

like they give us chromebooks

night trail
#

well how heavy is your work

vital onyx
#

but their dookie

worldly bison
#

Do you already have a laptop

vital onyx
#

ye

night trail
#

then

vital onyx
#

but its so garbage

night trail
#

use that

worldly bison
#

Then use that at school and a pc for homr

night trail
#

if it's better than the chromebook your fine man

vital onyx
#

cause what i was thinking is that when im traveling i can play games on my laptop

#

cause my parents arent gonna let me pack my pc if i got it

night trail
#

how often do you travel lol

#

if it's often

#

then

#

i respect your decision ig

#

but you can survive without laptop

vital onyx
#

few times

night trail
#

i usto travel shit tons with my mother

#

no laptop

#

not even phone 😦

#

but ay it's fine

vital onyx
#

LOL

#

rip

#

the reason im leaning more towards a laptop is cause im thinking more longterm

#

like univeristy

night trail
#

it wont last till unviersity

#

probably

#

Im going to sleep now im tired asf

#

It's 3 am

#

gl with your life man

#

enjoy it while you can

vital onyx
#

ill think the pc

#

im tryna get as many views as i can

#

to make the big decision

night trail
#

enjoy your next 24 hours

crimson scroll
night trail
#

''Just searched it up.''

#

yes

crimson scroll
#

that's a bad idea

noble oak
#

just got my new rtx 3080

stray peak
#

do you guys think dual ssds using raid is good?

crimson scroll
#

do you have a reason for using raid

#

because i would say 99% of consumers have absolutely zero reason to do that

stray peak
#

i mean not really ig

#

is it better to buy a 2tb ssd than 2 1tb ssds

crimson scroll
#

i mean

#

really depends on use case, how many slots you have

stray peak
#

i dont have anything yet

#

just planing what parts to buy

crimson scroll
#

you're not really going to notice much of a difference then, a single ssd is generally more convenient for most people

stray peak
#

alr then

stray peak
#

@crimson scroll oh now i remember why i asked. its because buying two 1tb ssds was cheaper than a 2tb ssd. or at least the one im looking at

crimson scroll
#

300 is a terrible price for that drive

stray peak
#

yeah ik

brazen ether
#

Hey guys i wanna ask a question should i upgrade from a 60hz monitor to a 144hz monitor or from intel i5 -7400 to ryzen 5 3600

south vigil
#

monitor because if you want to change processor you also have to change motherboard

brazen ether
#

I needto change motherboard if i want to change proccesor?

south vigil
#

yes

brazen ether
#

Oh

south vigil
#

👍

brazen ether
#

K thx

serene geyser
#

U dont necessarily need to change ur motherboard if the processor is compatible but monitor does sound like a better upgrade from 60hz to 144

south vigil
#

processor is not compatible, intel wants to switch from amd as processor

#

but if you buy an intel processor it's fine

brazen ether
#

Hewo i wanna ask 1 more question lel

#

Which one is better in ur opinion asus vg249q or philips 242E1GSJ for the 144 monitor
My budget is $200 if theres somethin better than those 2 tell me

crimson scroll
south vigil
#

with freesync

#

sorry if amazon is different from yours and that i'm italian

#

but the asus monitor for me is a nice choice

brazen ether
brazen ether
north crow
#

I heard that more thermal paste = colder CPU. First time building PC btw

short ice
#

um.... yeah.... not that much

north crow
compact ore
#

First? Whats as I5?

raw marsh
#

It's the CPU, it might specify in the product description

compact ore
#

Oh the intel thing?

raw marsh
#

Yeah

compact ore
#

I dont have the money yet. Im trying to save up.

#

What Im getting is:

drifting flint
#

so aim for a i3 10100f and 1650 super or rx580

compact ore
#

Zowie XL2411K Moniter

QCK Heavy medium mousepad

Aerox 3

Arctis 5 Black

Camo Backpack

CAP

PC:

compact ore
compact ore
#

When did I say I'm Richie Rich?

drifting flint
#

what keyboard you getting?

compact ore
#

Yesterday my friend gave me a Apex 100 keyboard so Im not in real need for one.

drifting flint
#

not bad at all

compact ore
#

Trust me if the Apex 100 isnt the best at least its better than my old one.

#

Like literally.

#

Currently my moniter is Logitech.

#

Mouse is Logitech.

#

Old keyboard was logitech.

#

A lot was really cheap logitech.

#

Even my headphones!

drifting flint
#

look at the hp omen and pavillion pc line there good

compact ore
#

Those are more than 1k dollars.

#

Way past my budget.

#

Just know Im only 14.

#

Ima take a break talking about this Im playing subnautica.

drifting flint
#

cyberpower

#

i only got my first pc when i was 15

compact ore
#

The only thing worth keeping my Old PC even when I get the new one is that It was my first PC I built with my dad.

#

This things like 4 years old

drifting flint
#

you should upgrade you old pc

compact ore
#

Nah.

drifting flint
#

what specs does it have

compact ore
#

It has a older Case that wouldnt be able to fit much.

compact ore
drifting flint
#

im loosig brain cells talking to you im going no offence

compact ore
#

No big deal Im the idiot guy who Doesnt know a lot on computers.

raw marsh
#

Don't say that, you're just new to the hobby then

compact ore
#

Ever since My dad had to move to another state for military purposes I've forgotton what Ive learned.

drifting flint
#

do you know what he put in the pc

compact ore
drifting flint
#

do you have the pc on you now?

compact ore
#

I think I remember my dad telling me I could open a thing that tells me the stuff.

compact ore
drifting flint
compact ore
#

I cant even connect to one of my wifi!

#

Ok.

raw marsh
#

You don't have to install cam for that, just open task manager

drifting flint
#

if i has a good ish cpu and ram you can just get a gpu and a new psu

#

psu if your old psu aint good anymore

stray peak
#

if he built it 4 years ago the cpu is probably old and might bottleneck the new gpu

compact ore
#

I dont even know if it Uses RAM

#

I dont think it does.

#

One sec.

stray peak
#

every pc has ram

drifting flint
#

everyone have ram

#

you might have 16gb or 8gb ram

compact ore
#

Here is what I connect to wifi with

#

Yet my computer is still slow.

#

And when Im on a lot this thing burns up.

#

I keep my fan on to cool it a bit

stray peak
#

the wifi card gets hot?

compact ore
#

Yep.

stray peak
#

hm

crimson scroll
#

cam is awful please don't recommend it

stray peak
#

why is it awful

crimson scroll
#

also yeah, usb wifi devices get hot

compact ore
#

Here is my old one

drifting flint
crimson scroll
#

data collection mostly

drifting flint
#

it tells me my temps and tells me my specs if i have a stupid moment

crimson scroll
#

you sign away so much for just hardware monitoring

#

and it doesn't even show that much compared to hwinfo64

stray peak
#

are the temp innacurate?

crimson scroll
#

it's bloated too

nimble harness
#

tbf most mobos past 450s have wifi

crimson scroll
#

chipset has nothing to do with wifi or not

nimble harness
#

thats not what im getting at

drifting flint
#

its using 300mb of my ram its not bad lol

nimble harness
#

most motherboard running on 450 or higher also have wifi capability thrown in, atleast in regards to MSI

compact ore
#

Ill just let you guys argue until I get results from something.

drifting flint
stray peak
#

oh

drifting flint
#

i use it all the time for my bench marking

stray peak
#

i use it to check temps, but this laptop has horrible cooling

#

70c cpu with a browser, discord, and spotify open

nimble harness
#

I use the smell of burning plastic to benchmark personallyh

drifting flint
#

my gaming laptop was horrible for cooling but i returned it

drifting flint
stray peak
#

i want to build a pc soon

stray peak
compact ore
#

@drifting flint

nimble harness
#

will be dissapointed if you dont go amd

drifting flint
#

dam not even a hot cpu tho

crimson scroll
#

Why?

#

Intel is generally cheaper

stray peak
#

yeah its a dell laptop from 2018... they dont have good cooling

nimble harness
drifting flint
nimble harness
#

especially for midrange

raw marsh
#

No, not for the midrange

nimble harness
stray peak
#

no, intel is cheaper

crimson scroll
#

A 11400f is like 170 and nearly matches a 5600x

#

Which is 300

stray peak
#

^

compact ore
#

Akum did you see the Specs?

stray peak
#

a 5800x as more than a 10850k

#

to be fair though it is better

drifting flint
nimble harness
#

they specialise in different things, I run a ryzen 5 2600 because im broke and it runs games much better than its intel equiv

raw marsh
compact ore
drifting flint
#

1060 3gb not bad for a 5 year old build

compact ore
#

I guess so whats good about it?

nimble harness
#

1060s are a pretty solid gpu

compact ore
drifting flint
crimson scroll
#

For zen +, the equivalent Intel was better at gaming, and amd was better at multithread applications, in general

compact ore
#

I cant remember what it is but my dad comes from North carolina sometime so we can put a new component in.

#

Ill ask him.

#

on discord.

#

Wait

nimble harness
#

this is top end

compact ore
#

I think he comes today!

#

But we dont put in the componet today!

#

I think its just dinner today.

crimson scroll
#

and the 9900k would still win out in some applications

#

besides, those speeds are just base

#

not boost or OC

nimble harness
#

thats fair AMDs overclocking is uhh

drifting flint
stray peak
#

those are older cpus tho

nimble harness
#

questionable

raw marsh
#

Huh?

crimson scroll
#

lots of misinformation here

drifting flint
crimson scroll
#

i don't

#

and i never claimed to

drifting flint
#

you act like it tho

raw marsh
#

No he doesn't

nimble harness
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I wouldnt say he does

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i'm confident on the facts i do know