#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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you shouldn't use a 1000w psu

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you should use a 750w

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cheaper in initial cost and the lifetime analysis is better

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see how f'ing annoying I am telling you exactly what to do?

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i'm not being theoretical

noble oak
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Right now you are just wasting your life on Discord.

crimson scroll
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i'm being practical and so is alan when we tell you everyone has personal preference

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and THAT is often more important then "hurr durr my optimality for pressing a key how you SHOULD do it according to ME"

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and what are you doing LMAO

noble oak
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Regardless of personal preferences, there is a reason why we have designers to design games and gaming accessories.

static pecan
crimson scroll
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accessories that cater to personal preferences

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you're a game designer

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you should know there are SETTINGS IN GAMES

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oops

noble oak
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I'm a multidisciplinary specialist.

crimson scroll
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for personal preference

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i don't care

noble oak
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You should.

crimson scroll
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you obviously said part of what you do is game design

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ooh

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i care so much

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"multidisciplinary"

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hey me too

noble oak
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I make my own games.

static pecan
noble oak
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Alone.

crimson scroll
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i can watch youtube while typing in discord

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right

static pecan
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I'm literally cooking dinner and sending out work emails right now as well. Wouldn't exactly call that "wasting my life on Discord"

raw marsh
noble oak
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Like I said, your hotkeys should allow you to strafe and move your camera while you use such hotkeys.
Otherwise, they are secondary (lack ergonomy) actions. The same reason why you don't Shoot with X button on a game controller when playing FPS games

crimson scroll
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zzz

noble oak
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When you throw the argument yo some people can use their numpad for CS hotkeys.
That's like claiming some people prefer to aim with left, up, right and down arrow.

crimson scroll
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for buy binds...which you don't really use when moving...

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you clearly don't know what a buy bind is

noble oak
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You got more or less 101 keys on a keyboard.

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Of all keys, why would you use the numpad??

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you are desperate

crimson scroll
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you're telling people to use TKL if they're gaming

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now you're saying you've got 101 keys

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which is it

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and i'm not desperate

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go look at the autoexecs of pro players

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vast majority has buy binds

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on num keys

noble oak
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You can get a cheap Perixx PERIBOARD-409P Wired PS2 Mini Keyboard

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😆

raw marsh
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😂

static pecan
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Ok but I would never buy one

noble oak
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Gives more space to my Rival 310.
It likes to skate on my mouse pad

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🥳

crimson scroll
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who uses ps2 now?

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you should use usb

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far more features available

noble oak
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The main reason why people opt for PS/2 (besides lower latency) is n-key rollover. This means you can send simultaneous input from any number of keys on your keyboard at once. This is mostly of benefit to gamers, where you often have many keys depressed at the same time, and all must be registered instantaneously.
crimson scroll
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  1. nkey rollover exists on usb devices by emulating multiple keyboards
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  1. i was being sarcastic and making fun of you
noble oak
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🙂

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If you are new to building PCs, a few months ago I wrote a somewhat practical guide on how to build your own.
There is just too much to say to be explained in a short Discord post.
https://skilljutsu.com/esports-build-your-gaming-pc.html

If you feel that something is missing or should be explained, please let me know.

crimson scroll
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you recommended a disk drive

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huge no no

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and for 90 cad

noble oak
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I recommended a SSD.

crimson scroll
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ridiculous price

static pecan
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Also pretty sure this breaks rule 5 lol

crimson scroll
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you also recommended an optical drive

static pecan
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Since it is self promo of his own website

crimson scroll
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it's on your guide...

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or do you not know what you wrote

inland timber
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TFW when your case arrived early at the shop but you didn’t get a heads up till nowRIP

crimson scroll
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tell me what this is

noble oak
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Rule 5 is if you make profit.
This is an educational website that Im paying for. And am not making money off of. So it's non sense if Im breaking rule 5.

crimson scroll
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"community growth" also falls under rule 5

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that's traffic to your site

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also you recommended no ssd...

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terrible guide

static pecan
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Most people don't make a profit off their YouTube or Twitch channels if they link them in this server, but it's still community growth just like linking to your site

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So it breaks Rule 5

noble oak
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Oky. So we'll avoid helping people by redirecting them to tutorials.
Must be very healthy.

crimson scroll
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i don't avoid helping people

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i also don't self promote

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it's not an ultimatum

noble oak
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Well, maybe it's time to modify rule 5 to allow Tutorials.

crimson scroll
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you literally talk about some mice not being a good fit on your website

noble oak
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Which is something many servers have already done

crimson scroll
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and yet you have the gall to come in here and say nobody should use a numpad except people in finance

static pecan
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Bruh

crimson scroll
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faster internet does not reduce latency

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faster != bandwidth

noble oak
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How old are you?

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Were you there 10 years ago?
Faster internet certainly reduces internet latency.

crimson scroll
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old enough to know up/down is not the same as bandwidth

static pecan
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Imagine stating something as stupid as "I will not need to purchase a Solid State Drive for this build," in 2021

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SSDs are cheap af these days

noble oak
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Did you read the whole thing? No. Because I was going to add it later (SSD).

static pecan
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And you LITERALLY argued for PCs having SSDs earlier in this very chat

crimson scroll
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the entire thing is very rambly

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also a 700w psu is overkill for an apu

noble oak
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Unless you add later a GPU.

crimson scroll
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still overkill

noble oak
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Clearly, you didn't read it...

crimson scroll
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i ran a 1080ti and 2600 on a 520w psu

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i read the whole thing

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it's a bad guide

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"The motherboard also defines what you should and shouldn't purchase to build your PC" other way around

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you don't want to plan around the motherboard

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you want to determine what you want to use the pc for, then buy parts accordingly

noble oak
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The whole point of building your own PC is you can add later other parts that you are waiting for

crimson scroll
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do you need lots of sata ports?

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do you need 2 8 pin cpu connectors?

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do you need 3 m.2 keys?

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"To get access to internet on your PC you need either to install either a Network Card or use a USB 3.0 Wi-fi Adapter. They get better every year. " no, you don't

static pecan
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Also never gives a total for all of the parts combined

crimson scroll
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"You also need to make sure that your keyboard works well for action games, that all keys pressed are properly registered." what if i don't play action games

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"Plus it comes with the old PS/2 Ports that are often very handy to have if your PC struggles to detect USB devices after installing Windows." this is not really a thing anymore

static pecan
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I guess since the title is "E Sports Gaming PC" he assumes everyone reading the guide will play action games

crimson scroll
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title is just "How to build a gaming pc"

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unless you mean in the tab

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in which case it's just "esports"

static pecan
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Yeah I meant the category

crimson scroll
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unless you mean the URL

static pecan
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But still, it's not even specifically an "esports" build, it's just a budget build guide

noble oak
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I'm specialized in First-Person Shooter games.
So, everything there will be related to FPS games too.

crimson scroll
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you didn't say that

noble oak
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Didnt have to

crimson scroll
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if it's a beginner guide, they don't know what they're looking at

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so yes, you do

static pecan
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Ok so don't advertise your guide as a general PC building guide if it's specifically targeted towards a certain use case

crimson scroll
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". I have tried to run the Batman Arkham games, Tomb Raider, Saint's Row The Third and many other games. This is almost as good at my other PC powered by an AMD R9 290x, 4Gb VRAM. Integrated graphics came a long way and I can see how they could become the new standards for years to come at this point. "

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none of the ones you listed are fps games...

static pecan
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Oof

noble oak
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I didn't say it was exclusively about FPS games.
I wrote... mostly related to.

crimson scroll
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now you're backtracking

noble oak
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Since that's what I'm specialized in.

static pecan
noble oak
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You are just playing with words. Enjoy

craggy sparrow
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But that doesn’t seem like most if not even one of them is an fps game

crimson scroll
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you should learn how to play with words if you're gonna write an article on how to build a pc

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more specifically, how to turn those words into sentences that will actually help a beginner

static pecan
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If you're going to make a PC guide that you claim is targeted towards esports and FPS games, then at least test some FPS games for the damn guide lmao

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As it stands, you're guide is basically just "Yeah this is for FPS games. No, I didn't actually test any FPS games on this machine but the story driven action games I tested worked great!"

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How does that make sense?

noble oak
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There is more going on in those games than in most FPS games.
So they are better games to use as examples to test hardware

static pecan
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Then don't say your build guide is for FPS games if you don't actually test FPS games on that machine

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How hard is that to understand?

crimson scroll
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most esports titles care about cpu anyways

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you don't know if those games are using the integrated graphics more

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this is why you test specific titles to recommend a set of hardware for those titles

static pecan
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If you're going to create a build guide that targets certain game genres, and if you;re going to include test results in those guides, then the test results should be from the same game genre you said the build guide was targeted for in the first place

noble oak
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Have you done compatibility testing?

crimson scroll
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that has no relevance

noble oak
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Yes it does.

static pecan
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I'm not the one making build guides and claiming to know everything there is to know about computer hardware

crimson scroll
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every modern gaming gpu and cpu can run games

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the beginner doesn't care about vulkan vs dx12

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besides

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you keep just throwing out random things

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and saying "this matters"

noble oak
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If your PC can run a game that demands more from your PC than most FPS games.
Your PC will then run those FPS games very well.

crimson scroll
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and then not saying why it matters or how your build guide relates to it

static pecan
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A beginner just wants a PC that can play the games they want to play at a decent frame rate and graphics without stuttering

noble oak
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What's a decent frame rate to you?

crimson scroll
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300+

noble oak
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Good luck pulling that off on recent games running on UE4.

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The more it goes, the heavier games are to render

crimson scroll
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...okay?

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no way!!!111

static pecan
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Bro really?

noble oak
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That's why FPS games these days feel less responsive then they were 10 years ago.
Because of the increased input lag.

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Same reason why now ''features to reduce input lag'' is becoming a thing (lol)

crimson scroll
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...

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you're just going off on random tangents

noble oak
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Even if you run a game at 300+ like Valorant.
You won't get the responsiveness of previous FPS games running at 150fps.

crimson scroll
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o...kay?

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and?

static pecan
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Why exactly are you trying to lecture us? lol

noble oak
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Because there is a lot of misinformation out there.
Notably about input lag and esports.
In fact, most game developers since 2007 (Unreal Engine 3) weren't aware of the increase latency that we now see in games as they get heavier to render in terms of graphics. Only last year, it became publicly acknowledged and recognized by the majority of game developers that games running on UE3 and now Unreal Engine 4 have more input lag than FPS games from previous generations.

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If you are either a game developer, esports athlete or a gamer. You should know this information.

crimson scroll
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o...kay

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first. that wasn't what the conversation was about and you're just redirecting because you don't want to admit you're wrong

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second. I don't care

noble oak
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No, my posts are directly related to the others above ''building a custom pc, frame rate and stuttering''.

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By increasing frame rate, you reduce input latency.

crimson scroll
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i already knew that....

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so?

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we weren't arguing against higher framerates

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not like we went around saying "hey you should run your game at 24fps"

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besides, frame rate isn't everything

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you care about 1% and .1% lows

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you keep acting like we know nothing

noble oak
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If you want to reduce stuttering, you need your frame rate to run steady above your max frame rate.
Stuttering that occurs in Valorant is caused by network code and can be fixed by capping frame rate to a lower amount.
But doing this in some other games can cause the opposite effect

static pecan
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If reading your ramblings over the last hour have shown me anything, it's that you have a serious god complex problem. Saucy and I aren't claiming to know everything there is to know about PC hardware and software. We hang out in this channel and share what we've learned from our experiences with computers over the years and pass that on to other people to help them out. From everything I've read so far, it definitely seems like you have to be the smartest one in the room. Always. Whenever you receive criticism you change the subject to something you have lots of knowledge of in an attempt to make the people criticizing you seem small in comparison.

noble oak
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And you are certainly entitled to have your own opinions or impressions.
Thank you.

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Much appreciated.

crimson scroll
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speak for yourself alan i know EVERYTHING

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🙂

static pecan
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Oh well, no one can stop us on our conquest to become the kings of the PCMasterRace

noble oak
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Saucy claimed that most games are CPU bound for the most part.
In my experience, a good CPU will do the job just fine and it's the GPU that needs to be top tier.

crimson scroll
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oh yeah?

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when did i claim that

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because i didn't say that

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and i have proof to back it up

static pecan
crimson scroll
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i said esports titles

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not most games

noble oak
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A game is a game...

static pecan
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Like I said, always has to be right and the smartest one in the room

crimson scroll
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oh, a game is a game

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so that's why some are gpu bound and some are cpu bound?

static pecan
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No is attacking you. We just want you to realize that you aren't the only one that knows a thing or two about PCs

crimson scroll
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you developed for ubisoft montreal and you don't know this?

noble oak
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I never worked for Ubisoft Montreal lol.

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Not sure where that's coming from

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Like I said, my PC is 10 years old.
And in most games my CPU is barely used'

crimson scroll
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gameloft montreal, my bad

noble oak
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It's now starting to struggle because of its old architecture

crimson scroll
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is that why at the high end, the 5600x, 10900k, 10600k, 5950x, etc. all perform the same on cyberpunk, because it's very gpu limited, but they have very different performances when it comes to something like csgo or r6 siege?

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i can assure you csgo is very cpu bound

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my 2600 would struggle to hit 200fps sometimes

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my 5600x hits over 700 sometimes

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and at 1440p, which you should know has more demand on the gpu than 1080p

noble oak
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Usually, in multiplayer games the CPU matters because of networking.
A game like LawBreakers or Unreal Tournament 2014 that require a lot of advanced player movements (PhysX/Havok) and tons of projectiles are quite heavy to handle even by a single powerful server. Several years ago, this stuff was fake and hardcoded. It wasn't this demanding on the hardware.

crimson scroll
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that's just agreeing with what i said...

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doesn't matter why it's more cpu dependent for the gamer

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but a game's a game, right?

static pecan
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Saucy you're obviously wrong about everything. We have the combined IQ of a 5 year old in the face of such sheer intellect

noble oak
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No. I specified exactly when it happens and lesss than 300 players play UT 2014 and LawBreakers is dead.
So what are those CPU intensive games that you are talking about?

crimson scroll
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?

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i just gave examples

static pecan
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He....literally just told you

crimson scroll
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do you want me to pull up player count for csgo

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or league of legends

noble oak
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So you think LoL or CS is has CPU intensive as LawBreakers or UT 2014?
Im not even sure LoL has much physics involved affecting networking lol

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and CS uses mostly hitscan guns. Unless Im not aware that they magically switched to real projectiles

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Like Halo 3 did

crimson scroll
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???

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i don't care if they're AS cpu intensive

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the point is they're more cpu intensive than gpu intensive

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with the current hardware available to us right now, the cpu limits framerate more than the gpu does

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i don't see what's so hard to understand about that

noble oak
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Im running Valorant on my old PC vs running on my new RTX 2060 and the GPU is certainly doing most of the work.
Since 2007, video games have been very demanding on GPU more than CPU.

crimson scroll
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as a player, i don't give one shit about WHY cs and league are more cpu dependent

noble oak
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I get 110fps on most UE4 games with a 11 years old CPU.
That should tell you enough about how GPUs matter today.

crimson scroll
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or about how good intel made cpus and then stagnated...

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you are avoiding my point

noble oak
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Which was?

crimson scroll
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that esports titles are more cpu dependent...pay attention

noble oak
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How are they more?

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Because they have lower graphics?

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is that your logic

crimson scroll
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you are a certified idiot

static pecan
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The how doesn't matter to the average player. The only thing that matters to most people is the simple fact that esports games ARE more CPU dependent than other titles. That's the entire point

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Stop trying to seem smarter than everyone else in the room because it only makes you seem more immature

noble oak
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The big problem with your argument is that esports are created by gaming communities.
Games can be designed to become esports, they only become an esport if they succeed.
There is no reason whatsoever for esports games to be more intensive on CPUs specifically.

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You should refer to multiplayer games and that's it.

crimson scroll
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don't tell me how to refer to esports titles

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i'm clearly talking about the ones that succeed

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so why does it matter how they become esports titles?

noble oak
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Because you claimed that esports titles are more CPU oriented.
Which is hot air

crimson scroll
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the examples i gave are all very popular games

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it's not

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now you're trying to be pedantic

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and failing

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and i never said that esports titles HAD to be more cpu intensive

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i said they were

noble oak
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LawBreakers was fast-paced FPS with high end graphics.
You need to have a solid gaming PC, period, to run it well.
But for a game like Valorant. The graphics are much lighter.
It's not that the CPU matters more. It's just that the game is graphically less demanding.
That doesn't mean you need less of the GPU, because for esports you need high frame rate so you do need the best GPU around to max it out.

crimson scroll
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there is a difference between correlation and confounding factors

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you'd know this if you took a statistics class

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by your own admission, lawbreakers is dead

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so who cares?

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and you don't need the best gpu

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i just told you how i improved framerate massively by upgrading my cpu only

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il'l give another anecdote-went from a 1060 to a 1080 to a 1080ti, saw ZERO improvement in csgo framerates

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besides, most people who care about being super competitive turn down their settings to low

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which you even pointed out in your own website

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which reduces the importance of a strong gpu even more....

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your argument actually sucks

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"It's not that the CPU matters more. It's just that the game is graphically less demanding."

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this is one of the stupidest things i've ever read

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read it again

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and tell me what it means

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what does the GRAPHICS processing unit do?

static pecan
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Like I said, god complex. I know one when I see it because I used to have a friend who acted the exact same way. Always had to be the smartest one in the room no matter what and would say anything, no matter how stupidly contradicting or long winded, just to seem smarter than everyone else

noble oak
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Most video games are built to run at 30-60 frame per seconds.
However, for competitive multiplayer games the standard is much higher.
And only certain multiplayer games will be designed with ''lighter graphics'' in mind.
While other multiplayer games will offer High End graphics.
But only the games with lighter graphics will be able to run at 250+ fps steady.

crimson scroll
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"Most video games are built to run at 30-60 frame per seconds." huh????

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also, the stuff you're saying about lighter graphics is true....so?

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that's just agreeing with my point

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also

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i run plenty of games at way more than 60fps

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in fact i can't remember the last game i played at 60fps

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oh, you said "competitive multiplayer game". clearly not an esports title.

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obviously those aren't more cpu dependent, they're just less gpu dependent

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but esports titles? nah, those don't exist

noble oak
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Lighter graphics does not mean less GPU demanding.
It means that your frame rate will be able to reach higher numbers and, in result, reduce input latency.

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You are slightly confusing the two

crimson scroll
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no, i'm not

noble oak
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Most video games these days are first developed for gaming consoles.
And in second for PC.
So yeah, they aim for 30-60fps

crimson scroll
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no, they don't

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if you have "lighter graphics", it takes less processing power to render a frame by the gpu...therefore less demanding on the gpu

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what YOU are confusing is the difference between more or less demanding, and full gpu utilization

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just because two games both run at 100% gpu load does not mean they run at the same framerate

noble oak
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Dude, I worked on Thief 4, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Deadliest Warrior Battlegrounds, Batman Arkham Knight.
If I tell you that we. game developers, aim for 30-60fps, it's because it's a cold hard fact.
And I don't care if you don't like it. It just is. And that has not changed in 20 years

crimson scroll
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i don't care what you aim for

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i care what i can run the game at

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and none of the games you listed are esports titles...

noble oak
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You should really read and educate yourself on esports. Because you are really throwing that word randomly

crimson scroll
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oh, am i

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because i'm not

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all the titles that i've claimed are esports titles, are in fact esports titles

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and you should do a little reading and educate yourself about what the average consumer wants

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might help you sell more games

noble oak
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Esport stands for electronic sport.
That started with Quake, Counter-Strike, Star Craft ,etc.
But over the years, notably in recent years the buzzword esports changed in meaning.
And now, esport doesn't just represent skillful games. Why? Because esports league weren't going to make much money with just the skillful games. Not enough players were playing them or liked them.
So, quickly for business reasons... esports slowly started to become more and more inclusive.
And today, any game played in multiplayer can now be referred to, like it or not, as esport.

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So when you say esports titles... it makes no sense whatsoever

crimson scroll
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i think you're just a salty old man who doesn't like that league is an esport

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also, i don't like fortnite, but i don't claim it's not skillful

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besides

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if games aren't skillful

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the esports today at least

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then how come there is such still a huge skill barrier to becoming pro?

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why doesn't everyone just go pro

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oh wait

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also, nobody refers to borderlands 2 as an esport

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it's a multiplayer game

noble oak
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If you compress the skill gap, then you get a huge pool of randomness.

crimson scroll
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....and?

noble oak
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Doesn't mean it's skillful.

crimson scroll
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cry more

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i'm sorry you're not good enough anymore to be pro

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and that back when you played esports, there was no money

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besides

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english is an evolving language

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get over it

noble oak
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Again, I really don't know where you take your info.

crimson scroll
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so what if esports now doesn't mean what esports then meant

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maybe YOU should update your definition

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there are professional leagues for cs, league, fortnite, valorant, rocket league, r6siege, dota, etc.

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all of the games i have mentioned meet the criteria for esports

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you are trying to make a case that esports now could include a myriad of games that i did not mention

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but i didn't mention them, so it doesn't matter in relation to the argument about cpu dependence

noble oak
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Esports, according to the recent use of it by businesses, can now include games like Magic Duels or Chess.
Games that previously wouldn't have been commonly accepted as electronic sports

crimson scroll
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so?

noble oak
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This is directly linked to the use of ''cyber athletes'' and what that meant

crimson scroll
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first.

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my original sentence said "most esports titles care more about cpu anyways"

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second

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nobody cares about cpu or gpu for hearthstone, chess, etc. because they are not framerate dependent to play well

noble oak
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Same reason why there is still an on going debate about if CHESS is a sport or just a 1 vs 1 multiplayer board game.

crimson scroll
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so you shouldn't even bring them up in argument

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third

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nobody brought up cyber athletes but you

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fourth

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i am not a business and my usage of esports is not necessarily tied to how some consortium or association may define it

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fifth

noble oak
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Esports = played by esports athletes.
There is nothing athletic in Chess or LoL.

crimson scroll
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i'm done with this argument. you may want to reflect on how everybody in this chat had something contrary to say to you. Maybe it really is you

noble oak
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So you can see how messed up the esports culture is right now

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And for the record, I worked on League of Legends...

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😬

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🤪

static pecan
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Imagine thinking LoL isn't an esport. I played it competitively in a league for 2 years. It definitely is an esport.

crimson scroll
static pecan
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And good for you, glad you got the opportunity, but that doesn't somehow make you better than everyone else.

noble oak
#

Like I explained earlier, the meaning of esports changes all the time.
I didn't make up its definition. And it's not a static definition.
League of Legends was once laughed at, because it's not because a game is competitive that it makes it a sport.
It's not because you make money by playing a game that it makes it an esport either.
But as esports became more and more inclusive, LoL became accepted as an actual esports title.

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Today, multiplayer games and esports titles are synonymous.

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That was not always the case

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Like I said, same reason why Chess is not accepted as a Sport everywhere.

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It's a game. Doesn't inherently makes it a sport.
A square is a rectangle. But a rectangle isn't a square.

static pecan
#

So basically, LoL is an esport sentry

noble oak
#

Today yes. According to 2021 culture

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Personally, I don't agree with that school of thoughts

static pecan
#

Cool, that's your opinion

noble oak
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Yes.

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Because it means that there is a huge logical flaw in that reasoning

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making League of Legends just a multiplayer strategy game. Not an esport

static pecan
#

But it is an esport

noble oak
#

How?

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The word sport implies that there is a physical exertion.

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Which is why we use terms such as esports athlete

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ATHLETE

tall cove
#

I’ve been trying to follow this... I’ll call it a debate, and this makes no sense

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So

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Being that the nature of this channel is for building PCs and things of that nature, let’s end it

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Point was made after the clock hit zero

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So no

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Done

noble oak
#

@tall cove Roger that. Thx.

#

I'm sure most people will desperately want to buy and build an expensive High End PC between 2K-5K CND
But it's really just a trap.

The average price for a PC, realistically, should be between $1,200.00 CND - $1,800.00 CND.
That's where you'll get the most value for your money.

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If you find cheaper, good for you! 🥳

long grove
#

Are all my cables in the right pins?

crimson scroll
#

what motherboard?

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also your power switch, power led, and reset switches are all loose

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oh b450 tomahawk

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reset switch is in the wrong place

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all of the front header pins are in the wrong place, actually

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you need to plug them into JFP1

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you have the power switch and power led plugged into JFP2 which is above JFP1

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and you have reset switch plugged into JCI1

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everything else looks fine

little wedge
#

ugly*

long grove
#

Ok

idle helm
idle helm
#

@crimson scroll what ryzen 5 should i get instead of this 3?

crimson scroll
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Why ryzen 5

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11400/10400 get almost there for 50% of the price

idle helm
#

Oh?

idle helm
crimson scroll
#

Yeah

crimson scroll
#

No

idle bridge
#

Uhm, why the Corsair vengeance? U sure that's what u want because you can find the same or better performance DDR4 for 80 USD instead of 108

idle helm
idle bridge
#

Also, rn what ur looking for is probably an 11400 or an 10400 from Intel

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Fits better with your price range 🙂

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I can also recommend Crucial Ballistix Cl16 3200 mhz or 3600 mhz ram

swift galleon
#

also you're putting a micro ATX mobo into an ATX case

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you could also get a better CPU for that price, aka 10/11400f

idle helm
swift galleon
#

for just like ten more dollars you could get a way better case.

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Bitfenix Nova Mesh SE w/ no tempered glass side panel 👍

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it comes in white or black

idle helm
#

Wait, is tempered glass not good?

swift galleon
#

it doesn't increase nor decrease temperatures, the tempered glass version is just more expensive

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let me help you out, hold up

idle helm
#

Brain hurty

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kannaSuicide good bye

swift galleon
#

dont forget peripherals, monitor, and taxes too

idle helm
#

Peripherals is?

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Keyboard?

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And mouse

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And other things alike?

swift galleon
#

and headphones/speaker

idle helm
#

Cool

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I have q decent headset already

swift galleon
#

which headset?

idle helm
#

Cheap kb&m though

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Arctis pro wired

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Will be my personal headset for some time

swift galleon
idle helm
#

Probably

swift galleon
#

such as koss kph30i's (w/ pad swap) or koss bt539i's which are wireless

idle helm
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What's the sound profile on those like?

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And do they have an eq?

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Like via an engine or something

idle helm
swift galleon
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They're not though, that's also why I said pad swap

idle helm
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Also the frequency range isnt as much I would hope

idle helm
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I wanted to find a review so I could see how soft or firm the pads are

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I found one

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I really like my current headset, I've never had any problems with it and they're the best sounding headphones I have ever used

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Also beats are utter garbage

idle helm
#

Sexy af

severe gazelle
idle helm
#

kk

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fuc it

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getting a prebuilt

swift galleon
idle helm
#

Doing it

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I am committing the crime today

noble oak
#

Just a reminder Jesus Loves you btw not hate homie have a good day peeps

raw marsh
idle helm
crimson scroll
#

one of the better ways to get a gpu, yeah

gilded frost
#

Been a while

rough jacinth
neon fox
#

wht is a good pc that isnt that expensive

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below 800

last estuary
#

building it urself is always the cheapest option

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i would go for a 8th / 9th gen i5

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8 gigs of ram

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probably like a gtx 1040 or no video card, cuz ur budget is kinda low

neon fox
#

yh ik its low

idle bridge
idle helm
idle bridge
#

OEMs that make prebuilt all have a set amount of stock that they recive of lets say GPU's, this means that in these trying times you might have a higher chance of getting a GPU from a prebuilt than if you were to built it yourself, just make sure that they don't overcharge too much and that you check what parts they use

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Rn where I live at least, the new Ryzen CPUs are normally priced (Pretty close to it's msrp) whereas graphics cards are heavily inflated to the point where an rtx 3080 costs bewteen 1000 USD to 1200 USD if you can even get one from the retailers that sell only a few select cards 🙂

sinful cypress
#

Supposedly it's better to buy components for a pc later on not right now since they are expensive is that true?

sinful cypress
#

Oh ok good

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I'm expecting to have a good budget by then

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Thanks btw

raw marsh
#

Although there's no saying when things will get better

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Just that it's in a bad place now

sinful cypress
#

That is true

crimson scroll
#

Imagine making fun of poor people

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Bye kid

tall cove
#

no

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you dont

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you sure?

idle bridge
atomic dust
#

this is my build. my cousin did the cable management and someone built the pc. also uhh the cooler choulnt be mounted up the top since theres not enough clearance to the board

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around 2k

crimson scroll
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i would flip the rad orientation

atomic dust
#

orientation?

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to?

crimson scroll
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to the other way

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tubes on the bottom

raw marsh
#

Usually reduces noice and increases lifespan

raw marsh
atomic dust
#

yep

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also i cant flip the Rad

static pecan
#

At the very least you should move the mount up so the tubes are higher the pump

crimson scroll
#

he has room to do it the other way

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the tubes have a lot of give, in all three dimensions

atomic dust
#

i asked my cousin and he said he chould do it

crimson scroll
#

you can do it yourself

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i believe in you

atomic dust
#

the pump or the radiator?

crimson scroll
#

the rad

static pecan
#

the radiator

atomic dust
#

im afraid im gonna break somthing

static pecan
#

All you need is a screw driver. It's not complicated

crimson scroll
#

although if you don't want the tubes to twist you will need to remove the block too

atomic dust
#

also im used to really loud sounds my pc rn i have down below is like a fighter jet

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when i play games

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what the problem is with me

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is that i get sweaty and confused when i uhhh

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am streessted out or scared

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and i allmost broke my glass pannel a second ago

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trying to put it on lol

crimson scroll
#

you're asking why you have a normal physical reaction to being stressed out or scared?

atomic dust
#

well

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intense

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sweating

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for the smallest problem ever

atomic dust
#

i have a prebuilt office pc with like 1 fan and some screwdriver holes in it for ventilation

idle helm
#

I decided to get an I buy power PC

raw marsh
#

Redux offers better value

idle helm
#

Probably not the best use of money but I need a PC soon and I cant wait too long

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I didnt want to do my research littlebrain

raw marsh
#

That's not very wise

idle helm
#

Yeah, I know that littlebrain

raw marsh
#

So why not do it? Doesn't take very long

idle helm
#

True, I did also have to buy from either best buy or Amazon, seeing how my dad is suspect of other websites

raw marsh
#

Or just don't do research and take my advice

idle helm
#

I really did not want to buy from best buy

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I was going to check the prices of the parts and see if it was worth it though

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I'm going to soon

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But my current computer is being slow asf

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2.6 gigs of ddr3 go brrrrr

raw marsh
idle helm
#

It's a really old pc

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It was more of a "f$ck it" purchase to be fair

#

I plan on slowing upgrading it if possible

raw marsh
#

What spec and how much did you spend?

idle helm
#

Ok so I was going to buy the 700 dollar model but the next day they ran out so we bought the 787 dollar one

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I can get the link actually

raw marsh
#

At least read the reviews first...

idle helm
#

The lights are the least of my worries

#

I really appreciate the help though

raw marsh
#

And the price seems excessive, but you do you

crimson scroll
#

it doesn't even say if it's dual channel or not

idle helm
#

FUC

raw marsh
crimson scroll
#

that doesn't mean it will or won't be

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but the fact that it doesn't say makes it seem like it won't be

idle helm
#

I mean it does only come with 8 gigs of ram

crimson scroll
#

could be 2x4

idle helm
#

That is true

raw marsh
#

Single stick in pictures and reviews

idle helm
#

Possibly

crimson scroll
#

doesn't seem like a good buy to me

idle helm
#

Welp I'll learn from this

#

Maybe

#

Probably not

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

crimson scroll
#

you can just cancel the order

static pecan
#

The smart thing to do would be cancel the order

idle helm
crimson scroll
#

k

idle helm
#

I'm 70% sure it comes with a kb&m

raw marsh
#

That doesn't really make up for it

idle helm
#

I know that RemPout

raw marsh
#

Probably going to be little more than e-waste

idle helm
#

Have any of you tried the apex 7?

raw marsh
idle helm
#

What did you think of it?

warm mountain
#

it good

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i have it

idle helm
#

Cool

raw marsh
bold drum
idle helm
sharp gazelle
#

Is a Ryzen 7 5800x compatible with an ASRock B550 pro4 motherboard??

sharp gazelle
#

Okay cool I’ll probs just need to do a BIOS update right?

raw marsh
#

Use PCpartpicker to check your list compatability

sharp gazelle
#

@raw marsh this is what is says

raw marsh
#

Yeah that's fine

sharp gazelle
#

Okay cool thank you

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What are some good decent priced speakers to get?

raw marsh
#

Creative pebble speakers are cheap and good for the price

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But I don't know your budget

inland timber
#

Logitech Z407s would run you 80USD

sharp gazelle
#

@raw marsh @inland timber okay cool thank you so much! And I don’t really have a budget just don’t want to spend a ridiculous amount of I don’t have to haha

idle helm
#

What's a good quality microphone, like 150 usd or less

crimson scroll
#

lots of options

#

do you have an audio interface already?

swift galleon
idle helm
#

K

steady vector
#

what is the best budget build

raw marsh
crimson scroll
#

only as a guideline

#

i find that they make a lot of bad decisions

lean quarry
little wedge
#

it was a dummy card

lilac otter
noble oak
#

Him holding that GPU fills me with jealousy

swift galleon
gilded frost
#

Pc part picker is the worst place to go for budget builds, don’t try in the discord, it’s full of children that don’t know anything, and don’t look at the completed builds, most of them are pretty garbage and over priced

swift galleon
crimson scroll
#

or..here

gilded frost
#

Tech source I wouldn’t recommend either, people go in there to mess around , rarely any mod activity

crimson scroll
#

this guy left as soon as you said that

raw marsh
crimson scroll
idle helm
#

@crimson scroll PC came in two days early

crimson scroll
#

k

idle helm
#

I'm not disappointed

crimson scroll
#

that's good

idle helm
#

I take that back

#

The keyboard?

toxic raftBOT
#
HoboHoovy#1991 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

idle helm
#

Looks nice, feels awful

crimson scroll
#

that's usually how it goes with the included keyboards

idle helm
#

It's mostly the larger keys

#

They are very difficult to press down at the edges

raw marsh
idle helm
#

Yes

idle helm
#

being able to run tf2 at 60 fps is a dream come true

#

so pathetic

low moon
#

Excuse the mess, but I am trying to hook up a third monitor, 2 of them are VGA, and the bottom right one is HDMI, all 3 of my VGA ports work, 2 in my graphics card and 1 in my motherboard, but for some reason, only one at a time wants to work, any advice?

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My graphics card is the Radeon HD 6800

tall cove
#

Unless your cpu has integrated graphics then plugging into your motherboard wouldn’t provide an output to a monitor

crimson scroll
#

^

low moon
tall cove
#

uhhhh I guess show a picture of the Rear IO

low moon
low moon
crimson scroll
#

connect everything to the gpu

low moon
#

I tried but that didn't work

#

This is what happens when I do that

crimson scroll
storm sluice
#

That’s neat

vale hull
#

i will buy apex pro tonight

idle helm
#

Why do you want it though

#

Is it purely for the switches?

warm mountain
#

lmaoo

small nebula
#

Hey, you know, at least 'there's a chance'

#

not a good chance

#

but a chance

graceful summit
#

has there been leaks of a $200-300 gpu by nvidia or amd

raw marsh
graceful summit
#

yeah but i have a 3200g which will bottleneck it

#

im planning to play on 1080p too

#

i would buy the 1660 super but id rather get some newer version of the card as i can wait

raw marsh
#

Nvidia is expected to reveal the 3050 series in the coming months

graceful summit
#

k good

#

do u think itll retail 230?

maiden cliff
#

Wasn't a mobile 3050 already leaked from Asus?

graceful summit
#

im planning to get one around summer

#

hopefully i can find one

raw marsh
maiden cliff
#

if you want it for retail, you'll need a bot because of the scums

graceful summit
#

my friend has been trying to get the 3070 and 3060ti for 2 months loll

maiden cliff
#

I wanted a 3300X, but those are as mythical as the new gpus

#

so I had to accept the 3100

graceful summit
#

i was just getting an office computer + some gaming but now im gaming more lol

#

3200g was a good apu and ran some light games pretty well

maiden cliff
#

I got a 5500XT on sale right before all the shortages

#

I spent $185 around Thanksgiving

graceful summit
#

im planning to spend $500 cad for a monitor + gpu

maiden cliff
#

I have a 32in 165hz monitor that was like $150 on sale

#

it's also curved

upper talon
#

is it ips

maiden cliff
#

no idea

graceful summit
#

check it

#

jsut type the model number in google and itll tell prob

maiden cliff
#

can't Im not home now

#

I dont know much about it

#

All I know is that it's an Acer monitor

dry lichen
#

first pc build 😳

crimson scroll
#

nice

#

i would flip the orientation of your rad

dry lichen
#

yea i was planning on doing that cuz it like right on top of my gpu lol

noble oak
vast vortex
#

My first ever build

raw marsh
#

I guess you like gigabyte

#

Looks good, consider custom cable sleeving if you want to make it look a bit cleaner

night trail
#

The bottom looks kinda empty though cant lie

dapper dagger
#

Its not much but it's mine

night trail
#

get rid of the anime figer and it'll look clean and pog

dapper dagger
#

The plushie adds 5% fps

night trail
#

also i like the colors

#

the plushie just looks bad

undone hatch
#

So does the figure... It helps 5% fps lol

night trail
#

it'd look better on a shelf or something

dapper dagger
#

I'm gonna hardline tube it when my graphics card block shows up

night trail
#

ngl

dapper dagger
#

There ya go

#

Earlier pic

night trail
#

good

#

GPU SAG

dapper dagger
#

I have a lego there now

night trail
#

maybe i am hallicunating

dapper dagger
#

Look in the top pic

night trail
#

but there is a gpu sag

#

i think

#

LOL

dapper dagger
#

There is

night trail
#

dollar tree gpu bracket

undone hatch
night trail
#

respetcs

#

respects

dapper dagger
undone hatch
#

Sorry ekwb

dapper dagger
#

yeah

#

block, pump, raditators, and fans are EK

#

ill drop a parts list for anyone interested

undone hatch
#

Expensive though.....

night trail
#

i was going to say ''how can you afford that but you cant afford a gpu sag bracket

dapper dagger
#

AMD 5950x
Radeon 6900xt Powercolor Red Dragon
Crosshair VIII hero wifi
32gb corsair ram 3200

night trail
#

but there probably isnt space for one

dapper dagger
#

there isnt space

#

the gpu came with one too

night trail
#

3000 series gang trollgangsta

dapper dagger
#

my next upgrades are ram and more storage

night trail
#

even though i dont have one

undone hatch
#

Looking foward to cool your gpu with ekwb

night trail
#

why do you need more ram

dapper dagger
#

I need more ram for encoding

night trail
#

what is an encoding

dapper dagger
#

im gonna put 128 gigs in here

undone hatch
#

Make program bro

dapper dagger
#

making video files smaller

#

I need more ram to add more filtering

night trail
dapper dagger
undone hatch
#

32gb is now minimum.... Atleast when u are streaming and doing editing minimum is 64gb

dapper dagger
#

nah

#

32 will get you by just fine for that

dapper dagger
#

64 and 128 are when you are really going ham

night trail
#

i can stream with 16gb pretty ok

#

issues here and there but not that much of a big deal

dapper dagger
#

its when youre doing really heavy 4k stuff you need more

night trail
#

32 is needed ig if you stream like vr stuff

#

or if you want a generally smooth stream

dapper dagger
#

nah

undone hatch
#

I felt there is drop of fps while playing and obs turn on

dapper dagger
#

thats up to your cpu

night trail
#

cou

#

ok

undone hatch
dapper dagger
undone hatch
#

I need some idea to put 240 and 120 rad on nr200p case.... Is it possible

dapper dagger
#

its seems possible if you get slims but if you want a small form factor case for watercooling I really suggest a Lian Li 011 dynamic mini

#

most of your issue is with how close the card will sit to the bottom of the case even with vertical mounting

undone hatch
#

I am not really up to buying new case.... Is quite matx case

dapper dagger
#

well custom watercooling is already a pretty poor way to spend money to be fair

#

I got this case just for the fact that I can use it for an overbuilt loop

undone hatch
#

This is when vertical, i already change the slim fan on top so that the cables are not pressed to gpu

dapper dagger
#

how much does the heatsink go over the pcb?

undone hatch
#

I have discoverd 92mm radiator but is aluminium

dapper dagger
#

you might be boned either way

undone hatch
#

Trying to figure to put bottom rad and gpu in horizontal, and out 120 rad on top, so that i have space to put pump bit i dont think there is enough space on top,

#

Heatsink to pcb, maybe around 3cm or more... I have msi xtrio model

#

3cm i think

#

If i bring down the psu a little bit it will hit gpu because i have a very long gpu pcb

#

I saw these at it looks very cool

#

Bit it has short pcb gpu

#

Will it be the same using 240mm thick rad, equivalent to 240+120 slim rad?

lean quarry
# undone hatch

are there no issue with vertical mount? because i have heard that there were many issues with gen 4 and that you need to put it in gen 3 otherwise the gpu wont work.

static pecan
#

You might run into some problems if you buy a cheap extender but otherwise it should be fine

raw marsh
#

The riser cable? Use a gen 4 cable with a gen 4 card and you'll probably be alright

static pecan
#

@lean quarry this is a good explainer for riser cables and the problems people may have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwfAF5XjXbM&t=201s

Riser Cables and vertical GPU brackets are getting more and more popular for gaming PCs but at the same time a lot of users are reporting problems with them and we're not talking about GPU airflow. That includes black screens, a failure to POST, BSOD's and performance issues as well. Let's take a closer look at why this is happening, how to fi...

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idle bridge
#

Bruh

#

After 6 years my laptop's GPU died

#

Now I am forced to run on IGPU

#

Even tho it basically runs as fast as before lmao

static pecan
#

6 years? GG. The GPU in my gaming laptop died after 7 months and had to get it RMAdthump

undone hatch
lean quarry
undone hatch
#

I tried with the riser cabble and not, they have the same value of fps.....

lean quarry
#

and what about gen 4?

undone hatch
#

I have not tried gen 4 riser because mine cpu use gen 3, gpu will adjust to gen 3 also even though u have gen 4 gpu

lean quarry
#

ooo

undone hatch
#

Gen 10 intel still use gen 3, only gen 11 intel uses the gen 4

#

And AMD

lean quarry
#

I want to get a rtx 3080 with a amd ryzen 7 5800x and that uses gen 4

undone hatch
#

Buy gen 4 riser if it fails RMA it....

#

Or u set your bios to gen 3 pci then u will have no problem.... Wait i think i saw on video that even though u set it, it will go back to gen 4 again.... I cant remeber the video

undone hatch
#

Do turn on the cc.... Is in diffrent language

lean quarry
#

yea i noticed that

undone hatch
#

The riser cable was pci gen 3

lean quarry
#

I think i am gonna get a gen 4 riser cable if there are any good brands that sell them

undone hatch
#

Will there be any huge diffrent from gen 3 to gen 4 in gpu?

#

I still dont see much video about it

#

I thinki will see big improvment on ddr5.....

lean quarry
#

no but for the cable it is a big difference, in this video it is explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwfAF5XjXbM&t=201s

Riser Cables and vertical GPU brackets are getting more and more popular for gaming PCs but at the same time a lot of users are reporting problems with them and we're not talking about GPU airflow. That includes black screens, a failure to POST, BSOD's and performance issues as well. Let's take a closer look at why this is happening, how to fi...

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undone hatch
#

I have watch it till end, advice dont buy yet unmature tecnology

idle bridge
#

bro

#

I managed to troubleshoot

#

My GPU drivers had corrupted together with some of my other files ;-; (Including some homework)

#

Just did a re-install and now it's working again

undone hatch
#

your laptop?

noble oak
#

is a geforce gtx 1050ti good?

merry rampart
unreal field
noble oak
#

?

idle bridge
noble oak
undone hatch
#

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#

looks cool

#

but cable managment suck

raw marsh
raw marsh
lean quarry
noble oak
#

NO aa games

merry rampart
crimson scroll
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yeah that pc is kind of unbalanced for gaming

wheat storm
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What pc do you recommend to play Warzone Fortnite minecraft and others?

crimson scroll
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at what resolution and framerate

static pecan
# idle bridge O:

Lucky. Mine ran into the unfortunate problem among the past several generations of Nvidia GPUs where the VGA drivers will just decide not to work anymore and shut down the entire GPU. I was in the middle of a game when it went dead

drifting flint
raw marsh
drifting flint
raw marsh
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Ok, but have you already got the gpu? Because you'll struggle to get it for that price

drifting flint
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im picking the gpu up from my local currys tomorrow i was just checking on the other parts

raw marsh
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Really? You got lucky there

drifting flint
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im just built different

crimson scroll
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eh

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i'd recommend a 10400 over a 3600

drifting flint
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10400f ?

raw marsh
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Yes, that's also a CPU

toxic raftBOT
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NoahHW#0224 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

idle bridge
valid glacier
raw marsh
valid glacier
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650W 80+ Gold? And so what brand do you recommend?

raw marsh
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Corsair worked for me

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Or EVGA, seasonic, doesn't really make a difference

valid glacier
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Ok, can the 5600X run high tier games? First time building a pc so I don't know

raw marsh
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Definitely, better than the 3700x for gaming

valid glacier
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Ok, i'll get that then, for an SSD I was going to get a 970 EVO plus with 500GB on it but I'm not sure if I should get more like 1 TB

raw marsh
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Up to you, but go with b550 in case you want a gen4 SSD in the future

valid glacier
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Is the MSI B550-A PRO a good replacement for the one I was going to get

raw marsh
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It's alright, but I'd recommend the Aorus b550 elite

valid glacier
raw marsh
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No, it just needs a bios flash, it's not an issue

valid glacier
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oh ok

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Is everything on that list good? Going to get everything but my graphics card soon, so just making sure everything good before I go and forget everything

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Couldn't find my SSD on there but I'll be buying it

raw marsh
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Yeah looks alright to me

valid glacier
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Alright thanks man, have a nice day

noble oak
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Hi i have a question

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Is the Z490 mobos compatible with 11th gen intel cpus? Specifically the MSI MPG z490 gaming plus and i5-11400

crimson scroll
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yes

noble oak
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Guys should i buy and rtx 3060?

raw marsh
noble oak
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but you know in my country is 500 dollars more

raw marsh
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In that case maybe don't do it. But we can't answer your question, it's your choice

polar verge
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Anything that you're cooler supports in watts and the socket type is the same, it will work. Find out the series of your motherboard though (100, 200, 300) if it is 300 series it wont work on 200 or 100

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Me realising that was sent 2 days ago

radiant sand
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Does anyone have the h510 elite

crimson scroll
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if you do, i feel bad for you

radiant sand
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I do t get it the temps aren’t that bad

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There pretty normal compared to other cases

timid crest
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What’s the best video card available right now under $400

maiden cliff
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From what I'm seeing on PC Part Picker, it's a 1050 ti

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I know a few weeks ago I saw a 5500XT 8gb for $400, but it has now gone up to $900

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it isnt worth it

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I got my 5500XT 8gb in November for $185

devout wolf
steady vector
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anyone know a decent laptop for warzone

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budget 600

maiden cliff
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what kind of framerate you want?

maiden cliff
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Just about every laptop at that price is going to have integrated graphics

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If anything, you should wait until you can spend $1k possibly. Then you can find something with a dedicated gpu if you're lucky.

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I think the biggest issue is finding a laptop that will atleast run the game and have storage for updates and stuff

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everything Im seeing only has 256GB

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So if you are fine with only having enough storage for Warzone and nothing else, almost any of them should work.

stable kernel
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As I’m waiting on the 30 series stocks

maiden cliff
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but would you pay $400 for it?

radiant sand
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Does anyone know any fan configuration or fans to get for the h510 elite ?

crimson scroll
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Step 1. Get a new case

radiant sand
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Bruh moment

sweet stream
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What cpu should I get if I have a 4090 ti and 5 tb of ram?

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Hello someone plz help

noble oak
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Naa Intel 2 is to bad for the system you need a amd ryzen 16500X

stable kernel
noble oak
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^^^^^^ FACTS

noble oak
lament pawn
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Finally i get to replace my 3600 rooHappy

maiden cliff
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I want one smh

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I only have a 3100 😳

lament pawn
maiden cliff
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I only paid $10 over MSRP tho and got my GPU for $15 under MSRP so it was cool

noble oak
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can someone rate my budget build?

maiden cliff
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why 2 8tb ssds?

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there are better ways to get 16tb of nvme storage

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I understand that it's a joke, but 2 8tb ssds is painful

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at that point, you just buy the 100tb sata ssd

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or even this

noble oak
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isn't $40,000 a bit too cheap?

maiden cliff
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obviously

noble oak
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i want something higher quality

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and if its that cheap i dont think its that good

maiden cliff
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but yours were only $2600 total

noble oak
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oh yeah

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i think ten of those 100tb should do

maiden cliff
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yes

noble oak
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might need more, not sure tho

elder urchin
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i live in turkey and i cant buy anything because of the amount of costs

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does anyone plan to come to turkey

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i will pay them

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please

crimson scroll
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if you pay for my flight there, and back, and my hotel, and the parts, sure

static pecan
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Hell yeah I'd go to Turkey

elder urchin
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how much would it cost

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let me think

raw marsh
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Surely you're not really considering that

elder urchin
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think like this

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your maximum cost is 15.000 TL

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and your gpu is only 8.000 TL

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only 1 night is enough i think

raw marsh
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You do understand he told you to buy the parts yourself

elder urchin
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damn

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thats not cheap

crimson scroll
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i ain't giving you parts for free

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who do you think i am

raw marsh
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That's a lot to pay for a glorified building service

crimson scroll
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yeah if you hire me you're really doing it for the snark

elder urchin
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you wouldn give it for free

crimson scroll
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of course not

elder urchin
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i would pay for that

crimson scroll
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my time is money

elder urchin
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but plane tickets are exoensive

elder urchin
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itwas a friking joke

crimson scroll
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so was my comment

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do you think i was really going to fly to turkey

elder urchin
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do you think i was really goig to pay for your thing

crimson scroll
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no

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i'm not stupid

elder urchin
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then fruck yourself

crimson scroll
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lol

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you seem salty

static pecan
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Bro is really mad you ain't stupid lol

raw marsh
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And he's gone, we really do get some fun people in here

static pecan
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Remember when people just posted their builds and asked for advice? Those were the good ol' days

crimson scroll
static pecan
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Disgusting

crimson scroll
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i don't remember if i've posted this in this server before

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but i expect chia to fail just like every other proof of time and space

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and then drives will hopefully crash in priec

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for now though, they're going back up