#💻-building-a-pc | SteelSeries | Page 93

distant field Mar 26, 2021, 11:01 AM

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what computer specs do you have?

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 11:02 AM

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5600x 3070, why?

distant field Mar 26, 2021, 11:02 AM

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I am just asking

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Ok

distant field Mar 26, 2021, 11:07 AM

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better is i9 11900k whether i9 10900k

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 1:46 PM

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sir, HOW?! can you even pay for that? you have 1024gb memory, 2 graphics cards and cpus/cpu coolers, 2000W power supply, windows 10 pro 32/64 bit, $550 motherboard, 10 x 7.68TB of storage, AND THIS ENTIRE COMPUTER IS 1736W! Do you even think your wall electricity can handle that?

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what do you MEAN not enough ram? its 16x64

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 1:51 PM

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craggy quail sir, HOW?! can you even pay for that? you have 1024gb memory, 2 graphics cards a...

He's joking, hes not going to buy that lol

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 1:52 PM

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raw marsh He's joking, hes not going to buy that lol

that is really understandable. its over $120,000. the pc im looking at costs 6,000 even though i already have the case for it (also includes oculus 2, xbox controller reciever, asus 32" screen, rgb mousepad, iPad Air4, ARGB Capture device EVGA

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Here is me https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM8R8J Note: some storage i havent added because i have it currently (same with peripherals), Finding a graphics card is a work-in-progress

System Builder

calm totem Mar 26, 2021, 2:25 PM

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OH

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not enough ram

calm totem Mar 26, 2021, 2:26 PM

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craggy quail Here is me https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM8R8J Note: some storage i havent add...

lookin nice

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 2:28 PM

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calm totem not enough ram

i understand why you say that

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i currently have 16gb ram tho so for now, thats a good upgrade

calm totem Mar 26, 2021, 2:29 PM

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haha naw i mean for the meme build

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 2:29 PM

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oh k

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 2:51 PM

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craggy quail Here is me https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM8R8J Note: some storage i havent add...

You're spending $800 on ram?

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Well #archive-battlestations if you want to

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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raw marsh You're spending $800 on ram?

Yeah basically everything is a work in progress

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trying to find retailers that sell thing for a little cheaper

river copper Mar 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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here's my current pc setup: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHQgy4 any reccomendations for upgrades?

System Builder

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 3:45 PM

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craggy quail Yeah basically everything is a work in progress

You really don't need that, it's super overkill

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32 will be more than enough

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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@craggy quail you dont even have a gpu?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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tame tapir <@!725788602365247488> you dont even have a gpu?

That is a work-in progress, I trust MSI, EVGA, And Nvidia

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 3:49 PM

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craggy quail That is a work-in progress, I trust MSI, EVGA, And Nvidia

oh ok

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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yeah so none of them are like VR ready, RGB, DirectX12 at least that are below $1800

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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river copper here's my current pc setup: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHQgy4 any reccomendat...

maybe change the 2x500gb storage to 1x1tb, other than that, i think you are good! only recommendation is you might want a little bit of a better graphics card. try a geforce rtx 2060 super

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 3:55 PM

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craggy quail yeah so none of them are like VR ready, RGB, DirectX12 at least that are below $...

No GPUs under $1800? What?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:55 PM

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raw marsh No GPUs under $1800? What?

all of these msi graphics cards are getting price raises

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Not to $1800

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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i miss the concept of that message

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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first of all why do u even need such a high end pc

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like what are u gonna use it for?

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just curious

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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im trying to find a geforce rtx on msi but im really out of luck

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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tame tapir like what are u gonna use it for?

probably streaming

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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craggy quail probably streaming

128gb ram for streaming!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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i mean

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you do you

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but

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SHEEESH

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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currently i have an alienware x51 (they dont actually sell 'em anymore)

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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idek if my laptop will be able to handle your stream!

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 3:59 PM

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right now im just trying to get a decent upgrade

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i dont even have 250 gb of storage

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 3:59 PM

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lmao im on a mac

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and I use my i5 3rd gen laptop to play valorant on 😆

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:00 PM

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i only have 40gb availible right now

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:00 PM

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oh

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sad

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:01 PM

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its just because my pc is probably 1.5ft tall and 1.7ft wide

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:02 PM

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lmfao ill take it

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ill be happy with an i5 6th gen

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:02 PM

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this computer used to be windows 8.1

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:03 PM

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oh dang

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what specs?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:04 PM

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the one thing i know is i have 250gb samsung 860 evo and i have a geforce gtx 950

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i think i have an 8th gen i7

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:07 PM

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tame tapir and I use my i5 3rd gen laptop to play valorant on 😆

what do u mean

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:07 PM

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craggy quail what do u mean

nothing lmao

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:07 PM

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just how do you play valorant on an i5 3rd gen

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Trusting msi, EVGA, and nvidia? Lmfao

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Valorant is an esports title

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It's designed to run on a lot of hardware and still perform decently

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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so is rocket league

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Yes...

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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craggy quail just how do you play valorant on an i5 3rd gen

with 30fps

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Both of those games can basically run on potato PCs lmao

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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tame tapir with 30fps

what me spitting

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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craggy quail what *me spitting*

?

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Why are you an elitist

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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italics is verbal, so i actually was spitting

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:09 PM

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oh

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yea

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ik 30fps is bad

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but

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i cant get a new laptop

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so it is what it is

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lmao and I use a dell working keyboard

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:10 PM

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i run on 40% cpu when i play minecraft for pc/mac

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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craggy quail i run on 40% cpu when i play minecraft for pc/mac

lmao i get like 80% cpu taken up with 3 chrome tabs

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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tame tapir lmao i get like 80% cpu taken up with 3 chrome tabs

good god

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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yea I need a new laptop

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its my bday today and my parents still saying no

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lol

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ive been saving for like 3 years and still have $150

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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that is weird

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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That's not that weird

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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im not tryna act like I need a pc

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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I feel like you're acting really shocked that somebody has a worse computer

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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like dont get me wrong

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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craggy quail that is weird

No its not, people come from different backgrounds and have different amounts of money

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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And maybe isn't in the financial situation to get a new one

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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crimson scroll And maybe isn't in the financial situation to get a new one

ya

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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im stuck at $430 trying to save so badly cuz it costs $6150 total

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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And trying to flex how good yours is

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Please don't do that

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:13 PM

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craggy quail im stuck at $430 trying to save so badly cuz it costs $6150 total

Why would you say this

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:13 PM

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6150 FOR A PC

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WHAT

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THE

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damn

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Why would you need a $6000 computer anyway? That's entirely useless and stupid lmao

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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you know, sometimes i have a lot of programs open

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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...

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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plan on becoming a developer+streamer

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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As if that warrants a 6 grand PC

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Spending that much on a computer is entirely a waste of money

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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There are use cases where it's not

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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thankfully my brother got a job so im probably going to get a new macbook soon :)

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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But for what they want, yes

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You're wasting money

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And when you say developer

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Are you even compiling on the machine itself?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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crimson scroll And when you say developer

develop roblox games

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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craggy quail develop roblox games

Youre joking

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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You can do that on a potato...

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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...that definitely does not require a $6K PC...

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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please help me 🖐️ 🤣

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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crimson scroll You can do that on a potato...

potatoes are for 3 year olds

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:16 PM

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This guy is trolling or needs a life lesson

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Probably both

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Help you how xeno

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:16 PM

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crimson scroll Help you how xeno

develop roblox games on 6k pc 🤣

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:16 PM

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tame tapir develop roblox games on 6k pc 🤣

add streaming

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:17 PM

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craggy quail add streaming

cool

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Just use nvenc

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Doesn't add any cost

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Lmao I used to stream on a $550 PC and it worked fine

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:18 PM

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well since graphics cards are running down, right now its like 4500

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im trying to get a rtx graphics card so i can show my friend this ray tracing map in minecraft

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the computer i have now is terrible

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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craggy quail the computer i have now is terrible

isnt it an i7 8th gen?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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yeah but 250gb

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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cant you just get an external drive....?

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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i7 8th gen is vague

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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people also dont even sell my case anymore

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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tame tapir cant you just get an external drive....?

Hes trolling now

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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raw marsh Hes trolling now

yea i think so...

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lmfao if ur i7 8th gen is bad work around with my i5 3rd gen 🤣

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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but my computer is 7 years old

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:22 PM

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I have a friend still using a 4770K and he's fine with it

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:22 PM

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craggy quail but my computer is 7 years old

8th gen was 2017.

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Think again

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:22 PM

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raw marsh 8th gen was 2017.

😆

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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If it's really an 8700K then there's literally nothing wrong with the CPU lmao

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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i dont actually know what processor it has

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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...

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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wtf...

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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is there a way to check?

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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imagine talking mad smack about your computer

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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for sure he is a troll

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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and then not knowing what cpu you have

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or even how to check

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Bruh

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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imagine putting down other people's pcs

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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lmfao ignore them they are a troll

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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i swear im about to get banned

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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This dumb shit is exactly why I don't hang out in this channel much anymore

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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yeah

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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static pecan This dumb shit is exactly why I don't hang out in this channel much anymore

lmao i joined the server today

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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also

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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ik not to come here now

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lmfao

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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imagine saying your case isn't sold anymore

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when it's the lancool 205m

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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not true

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alienware x51

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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so you're a liar

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tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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crimson scroll

EXPOSED

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LOL

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LOL

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LOL

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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yo chill on the spam

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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i have the case its not built

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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This is a poor attempt at trolling

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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It do be like that sometimes

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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lmfao why did i join this server

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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i swear im not trolling you

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do you guys need a reference?

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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tame tapir lmfao why did i join this server

The other channels are usually chill

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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tame tapir lmfao why did i join this server

Well its mostly alright

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:27 PM

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here have a picture

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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alright lmao

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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hold on

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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raw marsh Well its mostly alright

i just saw your pfp 🤣

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:28 PM

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ok

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Whats that supposed to show

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:30 PM

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that i dont have a lancool 205m built yet

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:30 PM

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craggy quail

ok and...?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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2nd times the charm?

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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craggy quail that i dont have a lancool 205m built yet

How about you send a pic of the unbuilt 205m

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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raw marsh How about you send a pic of the unbuilt 205m

k

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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why?

raw marsh Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Not that it matters

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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the list they sent wasn't even 6k

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it was 2k without a gpu

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just exaggeration and misinformation everywhere

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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crimson scroll it was 2k without a gpu

with 128gb ram

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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so?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Is that some proof?

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:34 PM

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static pecan This dumb shit is exactly why I don't hang out in this channel much anymore

yeah i feel like fewer and fewer people actually need help and a lot of people just say random stuff or show off

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:35 PM

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im honestly ready to be exiled

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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or just...don't be rude when people have worse computers

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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crimson scroll it was 2k without a gpu

correction: 4.5k

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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i don't care

tame tapir Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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look at this dude tryna flex

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how old are u

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like 9?

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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just give me the boot already

crimson scroll Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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we can't do that and you know that

craggy quail Mar 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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ok then i can

static pecan Mar 26, 2021, 4:55 PM

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crimson scroll yeah i feel like fewer and fewer people actually need help and a lot of people j...

Yup. It was fun when people were actually posting build lists and asking for real advice or talking about hardware but it's kinda devolved into a bunch of 12 year olds thinking they're hilarious for trying to troll and be annoying

white iron Mar 27, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Whats a good budget pc to use for streaming?

thick glade Mar 27, 2021, 7:43 AM

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1800$ pc build fast if possible

little wedge Mar 27, 2021, 7:45 AM

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that's not budget

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I would go for a 1660 super and a ryzen 7 2700x

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if not then get a 2600x instead

thick glade Mar 27, 2021, 7:46 AM

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ty

crimson scroll Mar 27, 2021, 8:42 AM

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Why zen+

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And also, sad times when a 1660s is in a $1800 build

little wedge Mar 27, 2021, 11:59 AM

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I agree it is sad

sharp gazelle Mar 27, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Is switching from 3000mhz ram to 3600mhz ram going to make much of a difference or would it be a waste of money?

raw marsh Mar 27, 2021, 1:08 PM

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sharp gazelle Is switching from 3000mhz ram to 3600mhz ram going to make much of a difference ...

With ryzen it's probably worth it, don't think the price difference is crazy either

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:17 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dZGR9N 👀

System Builder

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if only most of these parts were available...

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:48 PM

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idle bridge if only most of these parts were available...

If you want it would probably be like $100’s more I would recommend getting a 5800x

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Not available where I live 😩

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Dang

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Not the 5600x or 5800x

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Wow that sucks

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The 5800x is such a good processor

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Tho lately they have gotten cheaper and cheaper 👀 So looks like stock is getting better

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:49 PM

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It beats some of the older xeons in performance

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It’s kinda crazy for an 8 core processors

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Tru

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:49 PM

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I have one and I’m not disappointed with it at all

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:50 PM

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rtx 3080 also be costin' 1300+ Euro from large retailers where I live

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When the MSRP is closer to 750 Euro

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Yeah 3080’s I wouldn’t recommend looking for Rn

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:50 PM

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ik

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I have 1070ti paired with it and I average around 400-500 FPS on valorant max settings

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Ngl I honestly think that I would be able to build a PC with random tech waste my dad has lying downstairs

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Gpus are getting higher and higher in price the more Bitcoin goes up...

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:51 PM

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There's a few different random GPU's down there, like a gt 1030

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And random cases and mobos

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👀

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There are some things that are.. ok priced I guess?

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Well tbh ram prices are pretty low rn

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Like, the difference between a 750 watt and an 850 watt PSU is literally 15 dollars

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While I know some places that difference between 850 and 750w is massive compared to 650 and 750

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Oh and I have a weird tech question, my gpu has coil whine when the FPS gets into the 700-800 range in some games and when it hits 1000 my pc shuts off and restarts

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Any idea why?

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Overdraws of watts / spikes

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Might trigger the overcurrent protection and shut itself off to protect itself

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Should I try getting a new gpu?

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:56 PM

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shouldn't be the GPU, just try to get a higher wattage PSU?

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:56 PM

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I have a 750 watt psu

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:56 PM

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And what GPU?

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:56 PM

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I don’t think it’s the psu

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1070ti

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I’ve legit changed everything about my pc except for the gpu it used to do it on my old pc and it still does it on my new one

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Also, a Samsung 870 EVO 2TB is 45 dollars CHEAPER than the 860 EVO 2tb

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Pay less for more

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:57 PM

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True

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Just checked, a 5800x costs about 160 dollars more than the 5600x

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Ah ok

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When I got it around Christmas it was a lot cheaper

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 6:59 PM

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The 5800x itself costs around 560 USD -_-

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Also I got it from micro center and they always have a reduced price

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I picked it up for around 380

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 7:00 PM

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5600x or 5800x?

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 7:00 PM

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5800x

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 7:00 PM

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wow

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 7:00 PM

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Yup I got it with a black Friday bundle with a motherboard

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Where I live just the MSRP is around 535 USD

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 7:01 PM

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That’s crazy

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Prices are inflated by about 30-50 dollars depending on where u look doe ._.

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Wait are you including tax in your prices?

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 7:02 PM

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I live in NY state and the msrp where I live is around 449

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 7:03 PM

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In EU you are mandated by law to include tax in the price

inner whale Mar 27, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Oh lol

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With tax it was 407.40 usd

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Where I got it from

idle bridge Mar 27, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Still very good

edgy briar Mar 27, 2021, 7:55 PM

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does anyone have an opinion on which the best wireless headset is?

crimson scroll Mar 27, 2021, 8:27 PM

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define best

edgy briar Mar 27, 2021, 9:16 PM

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like quality to price

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also comfort

inland timber Mar 27, 2021, 11:04 PM

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Would this be enough for a 6700XT?

static pecan Mar 27, 2021, 11:05 PM

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More than enough

inland timber Mar 27, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Bet

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Electricity bill gonna take a hit but a small price to pay for salvation

raw marsh Mar 27, 2021, 11:06 PM

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inland timber Electricity bill gonna take a hit but a small price to pay for salvation

Well it won't always draw 1000 watts

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It will draw as much as it needs

inland timber Mar 27, 2021, 11:06 PM

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True

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I got it in case my GPU and my ryzen 7 decides to be power hungry when I over clock it in the future

raw marsh Mar 27, 2021, 11:13 PM

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That won't push you to 1000

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But it's not a bad thing to have more than you need

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 9:49 AM

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Honestly PSU is only thing I would over spec. Cause it's the one part where the ain't gonna be any compatibility issues other than the need for correct cables and enough power 👀

frosty dust Mar 28, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Hello gamers

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I have a question

static perch Mar 28, 2021, 10:17 AM

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what is it?

frosty dust Mar 28, 2021, 1:31 PM

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if i have a r5 2600 and a 3060 is a 450w psu enough?

stuck bluff Mar 28, 2021, 1:52 PM

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No

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Not for a 3060

frosty dust Mar 28, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Ah ok

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But on evga website I put my specs in and it calculated a wattage of like 400w

frosty dust Mar 28, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Any ideas on that?

little wedge Mar 28, 2021, 3:08 PM

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well thats just incorrect

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if ur getting 2600 and 3060 i would recommend at least a 550w

crimson scroll Mar 28, 2021, 3:09 PM

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I ran a 2600 and 1080ti on a 520w psu

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It's fine

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Just not optimal

little wedge Mar 28, 2021, 3:09 PM

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ywa

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yea

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its not that much extra for more wattage

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Also future proofing 👀

crimson scroll Mar 28, 2021, 3:29 PM

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I went from a 1060 to a 1080 to a 1080ti on that same psu

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Nice

frosty dust Mar 28, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Ok how bout a 2070 then?

noble oak Mar 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Just wondering whether to upgrade the cpu or gpu first

raw marsh Mar 28, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Well it depends what both of them are

noble oak Mar 28, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Well right now i’ve got a i5 9400F and a 1060

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Well I would probably say to upgrade GPU first, as it does most of the heavy lifting when it comes to games

noble oak Mar 28, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Appreciate the advice if that’s the case

stray cove Mar 28, 2021, 6:23 PM

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inland timber Would this be enough for a 6700XT?

a lot

crimson scroll Mar 28, 2021, 6:35 PM

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noah is correct

ionic meteor Mar 28, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Ryzen 7 3800x or 5 5600, gpu is a 1660 super

crimson scroll Mar 28, 2021, 6:54 PM

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what are you doing with the computer

raw marsh Mar 28, 2021, 6:54 PM

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ionic meteor Ryzen 7 3800x or 5 5600, gpu is a 1660 super

Both are slightly disproportionate to the gpu and I don't know your use case, but I'd say 5600x

ionic meteor Mar 28, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Would be used for general gaming and productivity

noble oak Mar 28, 2021, 8:10 PM

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i got a ryzen 7, with rtx 3070, + 40gb of ram with 3/4 channels

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but still get 150-250 fps on minecraft bedrock realms

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and i hvae a 360 hz monitor

raw marsh Mar 28, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Damn bro that's crazy

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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What resolution do you run at?

tame tapir Mar 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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tf

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I get that much on my i5

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lmao

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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What GPU you got?

tame tapir Mar 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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me?

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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ye

tame tapir Mar 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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2070

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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nice

tame tapir Mar 28, 2021, 8:30 PM

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im just kidding

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lmfao

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i dont play mc

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 8:30 PM

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ok? You do know that this is #💻-building-a-pc So are you here to give advice or upgrade?

noble oak Mar 28, 2021, 8:32 PM

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i built my pc so i type here idk

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default minecraft bedrock settings

idle bridge Mar 28, 2021, 8:32 PM

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I run 30-50 fps on minecraft Java 720p with lowest settings 👀

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My current plan is to build a pc, but a lot of stuff i so expensive rn

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The retailers where I live are selling 30 series GPU's for twice their MSRP

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And often isn't available

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Ryzen 5000 is ok, but still lies good 50 bucks above MSRP

sharp gazelle Mar 28, 2021, 9:07 PM

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What’s a good liquid cooler to get for a Ryzen 7 5800x?

loud sage Mar 28, 2021, 9:08 PM

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3080

raw marsh Mar 28, 2021, 9:11 PM

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sharp gazelle What’s a good liquid cooler to get for a Ryzen 7 5800x?

Arctic Liquid Freezer

sharp gazelle Mar 28, 2021, 9:47 PM

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raw marsh Arctic Liquid Freezer

What specific one there are so many lol

raw marsh Mar 28, 2021, 9:48 PM

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sharp gazelle What specific one there are so many lol

Whatever fits in your case

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240mm will be enough anyway

sharp gazelle Mar 28, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Also is a B550 compatible with a 5800x?

crimson scroll Mar 28, 2021, 10:21 PM

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yes

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may need a bios update

sharp gazelle Mar 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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crimson scroll may need a bios update

How do you do that?

crimson scroll Mar 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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download the update

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install it

high patio Mar 29, 2021, 3:27 AM

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Is a B450-F compatible with a amd Ryzen 7 3700x?

static pecan Mar 29, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Yes

gentle grove Mar 29, 2021, 7:40 AM

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Hi there! I have built my first pc some 4 months ago and never had any problem with it. But yesterday i tried running a benchmark (Cinebench R23) and got a very low score of 6969. When I searched for other scores of the same CPU there is like 3000 point discrepancy between the two. Also when I am playing CS:GO on high graphics I am getting fps in the range of 150 - 300. (My guess here is that the GPU might cause this). It's not that it's not working well but I want the performance that I paid for. Any help is welcome :))

Cinebench: https://imgur.com/a/V6PcPaE

CS:GO Fps: https://imgur.com/a/JDTOaPh

CS:GO settings: https://imgur.com/a/IPnyMWc

Pc Specs:

Intel i7 9700KF

MSI Z390 Tomahawk

Arctic MX4 Thermal Paste

Corsair H100X

16 GB Vengeance RGB Pro

6 Corsair LL 120 Fans

Nvdia Geforce RTX 2080 Super ASUS Dual

Imgur

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Help ? 👀

static pecan Mar 29, 2021, 2:13 PM

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What are your temps looking like when running R23 and CSGO? It's possible the cooler isn't making good contact with the CPU or the CPU needs to be repasted

noble oak Mar 29, 2021, 3:54 PM

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so just wondering
whats the recommended wattage for a 2060 super

river copper Mar 29, 2021, 4:14 PM

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noble oak so just wondering whats the recommended wattage for a 2060 super

what other components do you have?

noble oak Mar 29, 2021, 4:14 PM

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i5 9400F and a 550 watt psu at the moment

river copper Mar 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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what rating is your power supply, like bronze, gold, etc

crimson scroll Mar 29, 2021, 4:39 PM

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that's just efficiency

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power output assuming it's a decent power supply will be the same

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it'll just draw more at the wall

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what's your windows power plan set at @gentle grove

noble oak Mar 29, 2021, 5:22 PM

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river copper what rating is your power supply, like bronze, gold, etc

i don't even remember

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its a corsair cx550m lemme research this

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right its bronze rated

crimson scroll Mar 29, 2021, 5:25 PM

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it'll be fine

random mason Mar 30, 2021, 7:24 AM

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In my country they don't have Alex drawers so does anyone know a other good drawer

lean quarry Mar 30, 2021, 8:01 AM

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Hey guys should I change anything in this build:https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/CLRdPV
(I am still waiting till the GPU prices come back down)

System Builder

idle bridge Mar 30, 2021, 6:16 PM

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wtf no?

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A ryzen 7 5800x is completely fine for a 3080

crimson scroll Mar 30, 2021, 6:17 PM

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there's almost no gaming difference between a 5900x and a 5600x

idle bridge Mar 30, 2021, 6:22 PM

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ppl out here saying you need an Ryzen 9 or I9 for a 3080, I understand maybe Ryzen 7 if you want extra cores for stuff like streaming, but you don't actually need it to play games.

idle bridge Mar 30, 2021, 6:24 PM

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lean quarry Hey guys should I change anything in this build:https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list...

Your built seems pretty reasonable, it is of course on the high end of gaming pcs but that's completely fine. Once you set up your AIO just make sure to make it push the hot air out, and not into the case 🙂

shut bear Mar 30, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Hey gang! Got a question. With refund coming in hot and a promotion at work I can finally build a gaming PC. BUT I will have to move across the US in 5 months to start graduate school (2k miles). So my question is what kind of cases would be suitable for that distance/not be destroyed during the moving process. I'd love to build a tower but I'm hesitant of damaging it. Waiting until after the move is not an option because after 2 years I'll be packing up and moving again

crimson scroll Mar 31, 2021, 12:24 AM

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anything will do

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just take out the gpu

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but mini itx is easiest to move because it's small

shut bear Mar 31, 2021, 12:50 AM

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ty ty

crimson scroll Mar 31, 2021, 1:02 AM

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if you don't want to get too crazy, nr200 is about 18.5L and very easy to work with, the entire thing comes apart and back together so mounting is easy

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can fit most full length, triple slot gpus, support for sfx and even atx psus if you have a short gpu, and fits 280mm rads

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still quite a bit smaller than most mid tower atx

lean quarry Mar 31, 2021, 10:55 AM

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@idle bridge I heard online to use the AIO as an intake from the top

idle bridge Mar 31, 2021, 12:13 PM

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You would be pushing hot air into your case then...

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Cause the fans blow cool air through the rad, and then out comes hot air, so you would be pushing the hot air into your case

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then when your GPU or VRM needs to cool themselves, they get the hot air

lean quarry Mar 31, 2021, 1:06 PM

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ok thanks

raw marsh Mar 31, 2021, 1:09 PM

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idle bridge then when your GPU or VRM needs to cool themselves, they get the hot air

It may be slightly worse but it's not dreadful, I wouldn't really worry about using a rad on intake.

idle bridge Mar 31, 2021, 1:14 PM

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true, but if I had to choice I would make it push air out

crimson scroll Mar 31, 2021, 3:06 PM

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really depends on what components you're prioritizing and what the rest of your case setup looks like

static pecan Mar 31, 2021, 3:19 PM

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lean quarry <@!388392259852435457> I heard online to use the AIO as an intake from the top

I have a 360mm AIO mounted in the front acting as intake and my temps are fine. CPU never gets above 66C while gaming on a 5900X and GPU stays about 70C

lean quarry Mar 31, 2021, 5:42 PM

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But if you where to use a AIO as a exhaust wouldn't you use the hot air from in the pc to cool your cpu?

idle bridge Mar 31, 2021, 5:43 PM

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True

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Some GPU's blow some of the hot air out of the case doe

clear maple Mar 31, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Hiii

idle bridge Mar 31, 2021, 11:23 PM

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?

lean quarry Apr 1, 2021, 6:35 AM

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@clear maple do you have any pc related questions? Otherwise this isn't the channel for it.

sharp gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Is the Corsair 220T RGB ATX Mid tower smart case good? And is it future proof?

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Also what about the H100i RGB Platinum liquid cooler?

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 3:47 PM

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@sharp gazelle I've got the corsair 220T Airflow case (which also has RGB btw). I can say with confidence that its an extremely high quality case for a very respectable price. It has premium materials that feel durable and overall gives the impression that there clearly was alot of thought put into designing this case. Ive had it for 2 years now and always maintaned a beautiful look, lossless quality and performance. My only complaint is that the 4 included fans (I think corsair SP 120) are a little bit on the loud side, but nothing too noticable. The only difference beween the RGB and the Airflow version is that the Airflow version does exactly what the name implies, while still offereing exactly the same RGB as the RGB version. So I would highly suggest getting the 220T Airflow.

crimson scroll Apr 1, 2021, 3:48 PM

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nothing is futureproof

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the cooler is fine just expensive

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 3:54 PM

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@sharp gazelle @crimson scroll nothing is future proof... yes that's a fact, but what we like to look for is: what product will stay relevant in terms of physical integrity and aesthetical look for the longest amount of time after purchase.

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...and that's something the 220T airflow will do well, except if RGB becomes unpopular all of a sudden

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but physically there are no compromises

sharp gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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@regal gazelle thank you I appreciate all this info! What kind of liquid cooler do you use with it and what would you recommend?

sharp gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:00 PM

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crimson scroll the cooler is fine just expensive

What would you recommend?

crimson scroll Apr 1, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Arctic liquid freezer ii, galahad aio, ek aio

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:06 PM

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sharp gazelle Also what about the H100i RGB Platinum liquid cooler?

I've never owned a liquid cooler, but I've owned an air cooler (Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition) and now I just use the included "AMD wraith prism" stock cpu cooler, which does the job very well and I never get CPU temps over 75°C. If you're uncomfortable with using a stock cooler, then atleast get the Coolermaster 212, because I was really happy with that one and got even lower temps. (The only reason I don't have it anymore is because I sold that PC). liquid coolers is all about marketing and little about performance. They do their job, but they are only a tiny bit better than air coolers (sometimes even worse) for a large price increase. There's alot of proof to back this up and a loot of debate around this topic. watch some linus tech tips or something. But of course liquid coolers look cool :)

crimson scroll Apr 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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212 is overhyped, ventroo v5 is better and slightly cheaper

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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nice pun lol :)

crimson scroll Apr 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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And that's incorrect, large liquid coolers will do better under higher workloads and have longer soak times

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A liquid freezer 280 is about 20 bucks more than a noctua nh-d15 and performs significantly better in intensive workloads for high wattage components

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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tbf we would have to know what @sharp gazelle will use his/her PC for, because as you said ("higher workloads") it all depends...

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for gaming I don't think it makes much of a difference but then yet again, we would have to know whta games @sharp gazelle plays

sharp gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:14 PM

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regal gazelle tbf we would have to know what <@!384173337674252288> will use his/her PC for, b...

It would be mostly for streaming and gaming at the same time, games like cod, apex, valorant, rocket league, Minecraft and a ton more but those are the main ones I play plus doing some editing and then school work and work in general

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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all I'll say is:
If u have the money, a liquid cooler is your go-to.
The last argument I have is, that liquid coolers require more maintanace, but i'll disclaim again: I don't own a liquid cooler, so I'm not to judge, due to lack of experiance on this matter

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COD is infamously CPU intensiv

sharp gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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@regal gazelle okay cool thank you, how do you have your fans pointed with that case?

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And yes it is lol

crimson scroll Apr 1, 2021, 4:19 PM

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i was saying in general

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because you made a general statement

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if you're going to claim that liquid coolers are all about marketing and not about performance, that's just wrong

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air coolers certainly have their use cases, and liquid coolers have theirs

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including performance

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also, the 11600k draws over 230w overclocked and 140w stock

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:21 PM

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sharp gazelle <@543085377284472847> okay cool thank you, how do you have your fans pointed wit...

fans moving air from right to left (POV: looking through glass side panel)

crimson scroll Apr 1, 2021, 4:22 PM

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that's no slouch to cool, and a very large use case for that cpu is just gaming

sharp gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:22 PM

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regal gazelle fans moving air from right to left (POV: looking through glass side panel)

So your front three fans are blowing into the case and your back and top are blowing out?

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:24 PM

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yes the case already has 3 fans icluded (sorry I wrote 4 in my previous description of the case) at the front of the case so you won't need to change them... they are perfect as-is

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there is no top cooler or back cooler. you'll have to buy those seperatly

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what you could do is buy a fan for the back and mount your liquid cooler to the top

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if your liquid cooler doesnt incluse fans, then mounting it to the front would be even better

regal gazelle Apr 1, 2021, 4:30 PM

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crimson scroll also, the 11600k draws over 230w overclocked and 140w stock

how do you know what CPU ItsBlizz has?

crimson scroll Apr 1, 2021, 4:31 PM

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you aren't paying attention

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i gave an example of a use case that isn't necessarily a high workload, and you said for gaming you don't think it makes much of a difference

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so i pointed out a gaming example

safe lichen Apr 2, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Does anyone know the bot that tells you when the nvidia 3060 is in stock?

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 6:52 AM

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there are many

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hotstock, atr discord, nerdspeak twitter, etc.

real canopy Apr 2, 2021, 12:43 PM

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crimson scroll hotstock, atr discord, nerdspeak twitter, etc.

can u inv me to them

graceful summit Apr 2, 2021, 2:29 PM

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what gpu do u think i could get with this psu? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/2PZFf7/be-quiet-system-power-9-400-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-bn245

be quiet! System Power 9 400 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

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its paired with the 3200g

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or do u thnk i need a new psu entirely

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its like 8 months old

craggy sparrow Apr 2, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Depends what you can find, what price it is and what you can afford

graceful summit Apr 2, 2021, 3:16 PM

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i can afford around 300-500

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i want something around 3060 level tbh

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but im not sure if i can power the 3060 when its running a really graphic intensive game

graceful summit Apr 2, 2021, 3:40 PM

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actually i should be fine

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my cpu takes 60 + like 250 (gpu and other appliances) would be fine right?

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 6:38 PM

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me got question

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would a 3060ti and a r5 2600 work on a 450w psu

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 6:44 PM

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sure

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 6:50 PM

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wait fr?

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 6:51 PM

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yeah

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3060ti FE draws around 200-225w OC

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the 2600 around 120w and your board around 50w

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 6:58 PM

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alright thanks

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if so how about a 3070?

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i wouldnt be suprised if not

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:10 PM

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nah

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:11 PM

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yuh thought so

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alright well anyway thanks for da help and peace

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:11 PM

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3070 will draw 225-250+ on OC

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:11 PM

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hmm alright

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:11 PM

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which technically will work it's just very close

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:12 PM

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thats only 25 more than the 3060ti

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:12 PM

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crimson scroll which technically will work it's just very close

yeah

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better to play safe and get a 3060ti right?

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:12 PM

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good luck getting one

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also you shouldn't plan around your psu imo

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2600 is going to bottleneck both those gpus anyways

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:13 PM

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crimson scroll 2600 is going to bottleneck both those gpus anyways

got told that the bottleneck would be minimal

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:13 PM

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what resolution

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:13 PM

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1080p

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:13 PM

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definitely a bottleneck

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:13 PM

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hmm alright

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:14 PM

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higher resolution = less cpu bottlenecks occurring since your gpu needs to do more work

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:14 PM

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crimson scroll also you shouldn't plan around your psu imo

what should i plan around then lol

crimson scroll Apr 2, 2021, 7:14 PM

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plan around your budget and what performance you want

frosty dust Apr 2, 2021, 7:14 PM

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crimson scroll higher resolution = less cpu bottlenecks occurring since your gpu needs to do mo...

hmm alright thanks

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peace

pastel bronze Apr 4, 2021, 8:24 AM

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hello

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so i wana build a pc with i9 10850k nd like i wana know what gpu suit's it better with either the 3070 or 3080

raw marsh Apr 4, 2021, 8:51 AM

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pastel bronze so i wana build a pc with i9 10850k nd like i wana know what gpu suit's it bette...

Right now start with the GPU, its equally unlikely you'll find either

pastel bronze Apr 4, 2021, 8:54 AM

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raw marsh Right now start with the GPU, its equally unlikely you'll find either

wdym

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start with gpu?

raw marsh Apr 4, 2021, 8:59 AM

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pastel bronze wdym

Well get a 3080 if you can, the CPU is fine for either. But what I'm saying is that you won't have much choice seeing as both of them are very difficult to find

pastel bronze Apr 4, 2021, 8:59 AM

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ahhh ok

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tyvm

frosty dust Apr 4, 2021, 2:35 PM

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is 550w for 3070 alright im assuming not im tryna help my friend build a pc

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the psu is a cx550 by the way

raw marsh Apr 4, 2021, 2:46 PM

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frosty dust is 550w for 3070 alright im assuming not im tryna help my friend build a pc

Maybe, Nvidia recommends a 650w

frosty dust Apr 4, 2021, 2:48 PM

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raw marsh Maybe, Nvidia recommends a 650w

a lot of guys be saying the reason nvidia recommend such high wattages is because most psus on the market are garbage so apprently if your wattage is a fair amount under the recommended you should be okay as long as its a good unit

raw marsh Apr 4, 2021, 2:53 PM

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frosty dust a lot of guys be saying the reason nvidia recommend such high wattages is becaus...

I mean its probably going to be fine, but it's worth having a bit of headroom

frosty dust Apr 4, 2021, 2:59 PM

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yeah for future upgrading

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alright thanks @raw marsh peace CS_pogChamp

crimson scroll Apr 4, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Just go off actual wattage numbers

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Look up hardware unboxed, gn, etc. power tests

frosty dust Apr 4, 2021, 3:29 PM

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oh hi again saucy

crimson scroll Apr 4, 2021, 3:32 PM

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hello

velvet agate Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 PM

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@crimson scroll do u have a youtube

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 PM

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no

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too much effort and competition

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:22 PM

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@crimson scroll

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:22 PM

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don't tag me randomly please

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:22 PM

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Uhh uno dual monitor setup

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I’m not btw

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How do I connect two monitors if I don’t have VGA?

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:23 PM

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?

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depends on what other input/outputs your monitors and motherboard or gpu have

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:23 PM

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My GPU has 1hdmi and 3 dp

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Does that mean I need a DP to HDMI cable?

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:23 PM

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that depends on what your monitor has

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 PM

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My monitor has a dp hole but doesn’t come with wire T.T

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 PM

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the monitor didn't come with any cables at all?

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 PM

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It comes with HDMI

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but my hdmi being used by my other minti0r

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 PM

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then yeah you'll need a new cable

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doesn't need to be a dp to hdmi cable

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Just a DP?

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 PM

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think about it

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Will do right

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 PM

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you have 3 DP and 1 HDMI on your gpu

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you have one of your monitors plugged into the HDMI

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so you have one monitor left with DP and HDMI

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and 3 DP on your gpu

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so obviously you can just use a DP to DP...

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 PM

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No one of my monitor does not have DP

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 PM

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.<

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you just said one of your monitors does have DP

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Yes

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 PM

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it doesn't matter that the other doesn't

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 PM

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One does one doesn’t

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 PM

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you connected it via hdmi

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I KNOW

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Ooop

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:27 PM

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read what i wrote again

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:27 PM

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I swear u connect one hdmi to the monitor that doesn’t have dp and the dp from the gpu to the other monitor that has dp?

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Yes I get what you mean

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 PM

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...yes. That is what I said

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Just a dp will do no need for dp to hdmi

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 PM

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yes

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Thanks bestie

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Bye

crimson scroll Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 PM

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i'm not your bestie

rough jacinth Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Lol

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Everyone’s my bestie

crimson scroll Apr 6, 2021, 1:54 AM

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not appropriate

tall cove Apr 6, 2021, 2:01 AM

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not appropriate at all

winged jacinth Apr 6, 2021, 2:17 PM

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whats the best graphics card i can get for like 400 dollars

ember kettle Apr 6, 2021, 2:24 PM

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gt 730

tall cove Apr 6, 2021, 2:24 PM

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the market is wack rn

winged jacinth Apr 6, 2021, 2:28 PM

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i know

idle bridge Apr 6, 2021, 6:47 PM

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We have a GT 1030 lying in our basement, scalping time? 👀

narrow girder Apr 6, 2021, 11:41 PM

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well i sold my old 1660ti for £25 more than i payed for it then bought a 2060 for £more than that

static pecan Apr 7, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Only 25 over? That makes you a saint on today's market lol

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GG

smoky path Apr 7, 2021, 12:52 AM

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is the arctis pro keyboard worth it?

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Im not really a competitive player but it seems really cool

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I dont even have a mechanical keyboard

raw marsh Apr 7, 2021, 12:53 AM

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smoky path Im not really a competitive player but it seems really cool

Not worth it for me, probably not worth it for you either then

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All it offers is a split second advantage in fast paced games. Most people can live without that.

smoky path Apr 7, 2021, 12:55 AM

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ahh

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I'll probably get a lower tier keyboard then, ty <3

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is the oled smart display worth it? Seems fun and all but just wondering how often someone used it

raw marsh Apr 7, 2021, 1:03 AM

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smoky path is the oled smart display worth it? Seems fun and all but just wondering how oft...

I use it to monitor system info so it's pretty good for that, but it shouldn't be a deciding factor

smoky path Apr 7, 2021, 1:04 AM

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between the 3 and the 5 it kinda is. I dont see much else of a difference other than doubling the price (50-->100)

raw marsh Apr 7, 2021, 1:04 AM

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smoky path between the 3 and the 5 it kinda is. I dont see much else of a difference other ...

Big difference in switches

smoky path Apr 7, 2021, 1:04 AM

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oh its a blue mechanical for the 5

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I see

raw marsh Apr 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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smoky path oh its a blue mechanical for the 5

Although I'd almost rather use a membrane keyboard than blues

smoky path Apr 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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membrane?

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oh just a regular

raw marsh Apr 7, 2021, 1:05 AM

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Thats what the apex 3 is

smoky path Apr 7, 2021, 1:06 AM

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yeah

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Imma just get the 3. Thanks for the help!

raw marsh Apr 7, 2021, 1:06 AM

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No problem

noble oak Apr 7, 2021, 4:01 AM

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how much $ is needed for a everyday high quality gaming pc

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that can run 32' 144hz monitors

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with good graphics

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 4:24 AM

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monitor size doesn't matter

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takes the same amount of processing power to run a 27" and a 24" and a 32"

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as long as pixels and refresh rate are the same

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Have graphics card prices gone up?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:11 AM

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in relation to what period of time?

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but yes

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:11 AM

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A year ago

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:11 AM

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yes lol

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Thought so

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I was watching a $400 build vid

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And the graphics card came up to be 400+

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:12 AM

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you can get a used 960 for something like $80 off hws and then slap it into an optiplex

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right now every gpu is 1.5-2.5x its normal price

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Ok so I have never done this

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And I wanted to know like if what I'm planning on getting would be a good idea

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I think I have all the parts I need saved in tabs

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:14 AM

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i would use pcpartpicker

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Besides a graphics card

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:14 AM

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everything in one place

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Ok

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Thanks

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:15 AM

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you can set custom prices or custom parts and links if you have a deal that is more local

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but pcpp will scrape for prices

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not perfect but a good enough estimation usually

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:16 AM

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9k

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Ok

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Yo

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What's smt?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:16 AM

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surface mount technology

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:16 AM

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Ooo ok

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:17 AM

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pain in the butt to solder

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:17 AM

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So find something with that I assume

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:17 AM

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uh

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what do you mean

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:17 AM

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I do not want to solder

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:17 AM

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well you're not going to need to solder anything

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i was more referring to smds vs through holes for projects

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:18 AM

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Oh...

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:18 AM

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but for building a pc you don't need to solder anything

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and literally every modern component will use an smt

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it's like having a transistor

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you don't go searching for components with them, they just...have them

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:18 AM

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Ok

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Thank you

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:19 AM

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np

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Is a CPU cooler nessicary

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Hold up

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:20 AM

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yes

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Dumbby

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:20 AM

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i think what you may be asking is is a third party cooler necessary

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:21 AM

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Looks like it

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:21 AM

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if you don't have a cpu cooler it'll just throttle and shut down

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:21 AM

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Mmm

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:22 AM

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stock coolers like those on the 5600x, 11400, etc. will be fine, but third party ones may have advantages such as noise, thermals, aesthetics, or compatability

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:23 AM

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I am being told that there is already potential issues

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:23 AM

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eh

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probably a bios thing you don't have to worry about

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Yes

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Ok

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Ok

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So I got to optical drive

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Wait

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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probably don't need it

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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Nvm

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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i haven't touched a disk in years

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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That's DVD and CDs right?

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Ok

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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potentially blu ray if you're into that

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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Eh

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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if you can't instantly think of why you'd need a optical drive, you probably won't use it

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and you can always just get an external for $20 if you do

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:29 AM

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Yo why are OS so expensive

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:30 AM

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you don't have to buy one

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but if you wanted to know the actual reason, there's a lot of R&D

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:30 AM

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Hm?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:30 AM

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has to do with initial costs and fixed overhead in addition to direct maintenance costs of an os

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:31 AM

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Oh ok

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So how would I get the OS though

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:31 AM

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download it from your provider of choice

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if you want windows just download it from microsoft

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you can use it without a license

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Really?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:32 AM

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i'm doing that right now

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Wait, how would I download it

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:32 AM

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because i'm lazy and didn't transfer my old license

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:32 AM

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With a flashdrive?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:32 AM

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oh wait you can't see the watermark in screenshots i'm an idiot

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yeah just download it to a usb drive from a laptop or something

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:33 AM

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Ok so I have a PC that have windows 7 right?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:33 AM

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i don't know, you tell me

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:33 AM

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I do!

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:33 AM

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cool

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:34 AM

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So I could download on that, then put it into the new PC?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:34 AM

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yeah

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:34 AM

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Oki

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Wait

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Wheres the ssd ?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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what do you mean

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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I dont see an option for the ssd

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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Storage

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:36 AM

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Oh ok

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I forgot that, it too, is storage

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Hmmm

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I think that's everything

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:40 AM

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link it

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:41 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cj9FnL

Oh yeah still no graphics card

System Builder

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:41 AM

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i'd get cheaper ram and a larger SSD

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Let me know how horrid this is

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:41 AM

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you might wanna change to french pcpp

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Use English

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No

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:42 AM

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i'm just saying that since it'll pull from french retailers

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Use idiot

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:42 AM

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and you put a french OS

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:42 AM

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OOP

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I did not read

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:42 AM

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also

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what's your budget and what are you using the pc for

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I dont really have a set budget

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I'll make the money eventually

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:43 AM

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well

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i'm not a financial advisor, but you should set a budget first

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and also, parts change quickly

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I know

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:43 AM

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new technology comes out all the time

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so come back when you're ready to actually buy

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:44 AM

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Mkay

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I appreciate the assistance

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:44 AM

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np

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:44 AM

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But honestly

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I was willing to pay $700

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But damn

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Looks like I might have to pay that

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Also, should I get two sticks of ram?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:46 AM

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yes

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dual channel has significant performance gains

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:47 AM

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Ok

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Cool

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Does the mother board I chose support that?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:48 AM

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yes

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:48 AM

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In The vid I watched, the guy only uses one slot

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Ok I thought I saw two

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i wonder if my current pc can handle widows 10

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anyway

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goodnight

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:52 AM

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🌊

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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Wait

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Before I go

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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wake you up?

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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N9

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No

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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great song though

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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I was wondering what graphics card I should get

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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depends on what you want to do with the pc

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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I plan on gaming

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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with $700 you're maybe getting a used 1660s

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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I definitely will play tf2 and paladins, but those are light games

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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could get away with a 1650 then

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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But I wanna play bigger games too like fallout 4

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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right now it's whatever gpu you can get, there isn't much choice

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 7:56 AM

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I'm mostly planning right now

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So I have a better understanding of what to expect

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I'll probably work to make $1000

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Then go from there

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Oh yeah. Maybe cold war

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Depends honestly

sacred crescent Apr 7, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Rate My Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KBpWTJ

System Builder

cedar bluff Apr 7, 2021, 4:05 PM

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@sacred crescent you payed 700 for that case?

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crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 4:21 PM

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And a 970 Evo plus 2tb for 110

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Prices seem a bit off

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Wait, are the prices I'd be paying sound reasonable?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 5:06 PM

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yeah it's fine

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i don't see prices for the ssd though

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Yeah it's like $40

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I can actually get a 248 for less

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Same brand too

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 6:57 PM

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meh

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adata kinda scummy

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most ssd makers are, hard to avoid

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but they're especially egregious

raw marsh Apr 7, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Yeah that's not the right price

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 10:13 PM

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crimson scroll adata kinda scummy

Any suggestions?

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 10:14 PM

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sn550, mushkin pilot e, a2000

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Oki

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 10:16 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

SSDs

Master List

Brand,Model,Interface,Form Factor,Capacities,Controller,Configuration,DRAM,HMB,NAND Brand,NAND Type,2D/3D NAND,Layers,R/W (Up to, in MB/s),Categories,Notes (*),Product Page,Product Page 2,Amazon Affiliate Link,Amazon Price (Coming Soon)
ADATA,Falcon,x4 PCIe 3.0/NVMe,M.2,256GB-2TB,Rea...

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good way to compare specs

idle helm Apr 7, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Thanks

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Question

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What's your isp

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Interet

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Net

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Internet

crimson scroll Apr 7, 2021, 10:32 PM

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volo

idle helm Apr 8, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Wtf is that

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Goodnight

sacred crescent Apr 8, 2021, 11:31 AM

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woops i meant $70

sacred crescent Apr 8, 2021, 11:31 AM

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cedar bluff <@!791369060797513809> you payed 700 for that case?

meant $70

wanton bobcat Apr 8, 2021, 12:10 PM

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What specs do I go with I’m looking at nzxt rn

crimson scroll Apr 8, 2021, 4:25 PM

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depends on what you want to do with the computer and your budget

inland timber Apr 8, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Has anyone ever used WD Green SSDs?

crimson scroll Apr 8, 2021, 9:20 PM

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i would skip them

inland timber Apr 8, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Planning to RMA them when I get them shipped to me and get the blues instead

crimson scroll Apr 8, 2021, 9:21 PM

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they're notoriously failure prone

inland timber Apr 8, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Good to know cause I have been reading some specs from different sources and I immediately figured that the inconsistent writes was an omen at best

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If anything I might go for blues or get Samsung SSDs

crimson scroll Apr 8, 2021, 9:23 PM

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samsung ssds have the brand tax on them

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

SSDs

Master List

Brand,Model,Interface,Form Factor,Capacities,Controller,Configuration,DRAM,HMB,NAND Brand,NAND Type,2D/3D NAND,Layers,R/W (Up to, in MB/s),Categories,Notes (*),Product Page,Product Page 2,Amazon Affiliate Link,Amazon Price (Coming Soon)
ADATA,Falcon,x4 PCIe 3.0/NVMe,M.2,256GB-2TB,Rea...

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newmaxx is a very good resource

inland timber Apr 8, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Well that answers my concern over the greens, did pick up a SN750 for a boot drive with 500GB

crimson scroll Apr 8, 2021, 9:33 PM

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i have the same and honestly i regret it because i'm out of space again

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but the drive itself is fine

noble oak Apr 8, 2021, 11:42 PM

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The computer industry is moving to SSDs.
In a few years, all new GPUs will take advantage of SSDs to reduce latency and push graphics.

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We have already seen this happening in the next generation of gaming consoles such as PS5.

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The upcoming Unreal Engine 5 was designed with that in mind.

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To that end, Unreal Engine 5 is being "optimized for next-generation storage." The PlayStation 5 storage tech is "god-tier," says Sweeney, while PCs have some catching up to do. That said, "on a high-end PC with an SSD," and especially with an NVMe SSD, we should get "awesome performance" from Unreal Engine 5 games. (With a good GPU and CPU too, of course.)

Source: https://www.pcgamer.com/fast-ssd-storage-is-key-to-the-unreal-engine-5-demos-super-detailed-scenes/

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With games and apps getting larger, you better get a 1-2TB SSD.
To both install Windows and have some room for other apps.

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Some games now are 90Gb-110Gb to download.

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Gears of War 5 or Vermintide 2

crimson scroll Apr 8, 2021, 11:54 PM

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depends on the budget

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at the original of $700, probably not

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at $1000 it makes more sense to do that

inland timber Apr 8, 2021, 11:56 PM

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Atm I’m just planning to get two 1TB SSDs and 2 4TB HDDs

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Since that’s the slots available on my case

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I was looking into using adapters for the 3.5 inch docks for SSDs but I’m trying to stay on budget now

noble oak Apr 9, 2021, 12:00 AM

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A SSD to install Windows does make a HUGE difference.

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It's blazing fast to boot up your PC.
Navigation is much faster and responsive.
And if you install updates or else while your PC runs on a SSD, Windows won't randomly freeze as it can do on a old school Hard Drive.

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One of my 3 computers runs Windows 10 on a HDD and every minute the Disk usage jumps from 0% to 30-45% and goes back quickly to 0%.

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Really annoying.

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On a SSD, you barely notice the disk usage. It's so fast.

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Also, if you are running Windows 10, go to your Privacy Settings and turn off everything.
Your disk usage will be slightly reduced.

inland timber Apr 9, 2021, 12:03 AM

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Can confirm since I did buy a prebuilt from cyber power where they messed up by making the boot disk the HDD rather then the SSD

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Once I made the SSD the boot drive it made things a lot better

noble oak Apr 9, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Definitely.

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My main PC is 10 years old with a 5 years old GPU.
Still is amazing. It boots up on a SSD in a few seconds

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But I was wise back then to buy a i7 970 3.2Ghz (6 cores). It still works decent today

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But my ram is bottlenecking my PC because of the old Motherboard

inland timber Apr 9, 2021, 12:08 AM

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I checked on PC parts picker to make sure I had all the stuff I need to make my build work so everything I have should be working fine

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Just need to wait for the SSDs

noble oak Apr 9, 2021, 12:11 AM

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If you are unfamiliar with hardware parts, usually you just have to start with the Motherboard.

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And then you know what Case you need, Ram Memory, CPU, GPU, etc

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For convenience, I slightly recommend that you all get Silent Cases and silent keyboards.

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(quiet Cases & keyboards)

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Many of us may live in apartments or close to other family members

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A loud computer or keyboard can be quite annoying

inland timber Apr 9, 2021, 12:15 AM

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I spaced myself away from people in the house so noise is not an issue

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But I might invest in a board with silent switches in the future

noble oak Apr 9, 2021, 12:17 AM

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I recently bought a ''Logitech Wireless Illuminated Keyboard K800''
It's quite quiet.

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The keys also glow nicely in the dark.

raw marsh Apr 9, 2021, 12:17 AM

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noble oak For convenience, I slightly recommend that you all get Silent Cases and silent k...

I mean, you can set a fan curve

noble oak Apr 9, 2021, 12:18 AM

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However, for gaming it's better to use a shorter keyboard that doesn't have a Numpad

raw marsh Apr 9, 2021, 12:19 AM

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noble oak However, for gaming it's better to use a shorter keyboard that doesn't have a Nu...

Why would it be better? More desk space maybe, but that's about it

noble oak Apr 9, 2021, 12:20 AM

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