#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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it's basically just legos

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also, 1500 including peripherals and monitor?

cerulean drift
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No

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Just the pc

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I found the acer predator orion 300

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Intel core i7
Nvidia GeForce gtx 1660 super

crimson scroll
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For how much

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And which i7

cerulean drift
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1400€

crimson scroll
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Absolutely not worth

cerulean drift
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Why

crimson scroll
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A 10700 non k with a 1660 super for 1400 is way overpriced

cerulean drift
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A ok

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There is the same one but 100€ more

crimson scroll
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I'm going to bed but I'll probably check in the morning, make a parts list

cerulean drift
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With rtx 2060

crimson scroll
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Which country are you in

cerulean drift
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Belgium

wind minnow
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You really could manage to build a computer, it's literally adult legos

cerulean drift
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Idk anything about parts

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That’s why I would go for a prebuilt

echo tide
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i am wondering if i should spend that much money on this upgrade

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can someone help me?

wind minnow
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what is your current gpu

cerulean drift
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Can anyone recommend me a full pc build part list pls?

wind minnow
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Sure thing

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whats ur budget

cerulean drift
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1500

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Usd

echo tide
cerulean drift
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Perfect

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Thank you

wind minnow
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Some items are out of stock though

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I think you should wait

echo tide
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yes but my cpu is soo weak

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and i need a new one

wind minnow
cerulean drift
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Thanks

echo tide
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@wind minnow can u give me also an feedback?

cerulean drift
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Cooler?

wind minnow
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You should really go amd at this price point

wind minnow
cerulean drift
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A ok, thanks a lot

wind minnow
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and since its a ryzen 5 you dont need an aio

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it would be overkill

wind minnow
echo tide
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okay

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ty

wind minnow
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so you have drives and a gpu correct?

echo tide
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yes

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and some collers

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i mean coolers

wind minnow
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alright

echo tide
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like 3 or 4

wind minnow
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you mean fans?

echo tide
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yes

cerulean drift
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For my accessories:
Steelseries apex 3
Glorious model o
Steelseries arctis 1
An rgb mousepad from amazon

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I’m going budget

wind minnow
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wouldn't recommend apex 3 since it is membrane

cerulean drift
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Witch one then

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The 5 is too expensive

wind minnow
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imo you do not need rgb mousepad and a glorious model o and instead downgrade a little to fit in an apex 5

cerulean drift
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What mouse than

wind minnow
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Trust me I have used g213 for 3 years lmao

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such a pain

wind minnow
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great rgb, ergonomics, and a perfect sensor

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for 30 usd

cerulean drift
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New list:
Apex 5
Rival 3
Arctis 1
Small qck

wind minnow
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yeah that looks amazing

cerulean drift
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What qck?

wind minnow
echo tide
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okay

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t y

wind minnow
cerulean drift
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K

wind minnow
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You could get anything

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Just don't mouse on a bare desk lmao

echo tide
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i am just wondering

wind minnow
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I personally use a ryzen 5 2600 rig for 4 years and it is fine as hell

cerulean drift
echo tide
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yes i have a intel core i 5 for 4 and a half year and it is okay but

cerulean drift
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So much steelseries

echo tide
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yeah idk

echo tide
cerulean drift
wind minnow
echo tide
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yeah okay

wind minnow
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And it absolutely chokeslams intel 10th gen

echo tide
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yes

cerulean drift
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It’s sold out everywhere

echo tide
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i think a am going to pick up these things

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thank u bro

wind minnow
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you're welcome

echo tide
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i think i am using a other power supply

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but the rest is very very ncie

wind minnow
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I downgraded the psu to get closer to your budget but it would be better for you in the long term to get a better one

echo tide
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yes

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i do

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this is my new upgrade

cerulean drift
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Fire

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Really nice

craggy sparrow
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What graphics card you got?

cerulean drift
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That’s an upgrade

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To his pc

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Idk what graphics card he has already

craggy sparrow
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Well the upgrade looks really good

cerulean drift
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That’s my budget for a pc

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Lol

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1500

cerulean drift
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Alternate

echo tide
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i am updrading to a rtx 3060ti

echo tide
cerulean drift
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Nicee

echo tide
cerulean drift
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U dutch @echo tide ?

echo tide
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no

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german

cerulean drift
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A ok

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Sry

echo tide
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no problem

cerulean drift
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I want my next pc to be full of rgb

echo tide
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yes rgb is soo nice

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i have already 6 ll120 rgb

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they are awesome

abstract tree
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who else has a full steelseries setup

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i do

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apex 3

echo tide
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i do

abstract tree
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rival 3

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and the headphones

echo tide
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apex pro rival 600 3xl qck and a arctis pro gameDac

abstract tree
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nice

echo tide
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yes u too

abstract tree
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well im in school lmfao

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bai

echo tide
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i am too

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but home schooling

abstract tree
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same#

cerulean drift
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I am in class rn

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Online school

abstract tree
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cool

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i am too

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gtg

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bai

cerulean drift
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Btw, is the aerox 3 wired good?

abstract tree
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well it is quite light

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but it depends what game u use it 4

cerulean drift
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What to get? Aerox 3 or rival600

abstract tree
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idk

cerulean drift
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Witch one is better

abstract tree
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i think the Aerox 3

cerulean drift
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Is this pc worth 1049$?

echo tide
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no

abstract tree
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probably niot

cerulean drift
cerulean drift
abstract tree
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but who else thinks that SteelSeries should put a valorant configuration in the engine on apps

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bc i do

cerulean drift
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@echo tide why nor

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Not*

echo tide
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cause of the ram and the other things

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ah okay it is a pre build

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yes it is okay

cerulean drift
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16 gb ram

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512 total storage

craggy sparrow
cerulean drift
craggy sparrow
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I got the model o wireless

cerulean drift
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But somebody here recommended rival 3

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Over model o

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Wich one should i get

echo tide
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apex 5

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or arctis 1

shrewd linden
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guys am i buy hyper x cloud 2 for mobile or steelseries arctics 3 2019 for mobile i thing i buy arctics 3 b

cerulean drift
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Is this pc good?

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Is it worth 1400$?

dense turret
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it says it has a 1660 super but it says rtx???

static pecan
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They use the same product photos for every single configuration of that particular system lol

little quiver
# cerulean drift

yes that looks about right for a PC of that specs. Only thing I would upgrade if you we're going to is the SSD (if I read right it only has 512GB) and the RAM is always a relatively cheap and good choice to upgrade. 1660 Super is a good graphics card but be careful what monitor you use as it probably wont be able to handle something like 144hz

cerulean drift
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Is 75 better for this graphics card?

little quiver
cerulean drift
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A ok, thank you

little quiver
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for that graphics card, it would be better to buy something with 75hz and not waste any money on something with 144hz

cerulean drift
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75 hz

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24 inches

little quiver
# cerulean drift Is this one good?

It looks good, I cant tell for sure without the link but I have something similar but its an Acer Nitro VG0. Seems the same as mine but im guessing the refresh rate is more suitable for your PC

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FreeSync is great for gaming

cerulean drift
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What pc do you have

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Prebuilt?

little quiver
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I have a Legion Laptop, it has almost the same specs as the one you sent earlier

cerulean drift
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A k

wind minnow
craggy sparrow
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Is a 144hz monitor good lmao yes

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There isn’t much of a difference to me anyway between 240 and 144

raw marsh
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They usually look pretty terrible on the inside, plus you don't want a damn 1660 super for that price.

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You could build something good for $1400 if you put the effort in. But maybe thats not something you want to do, i have no idea.

cerulean drift
crimson scroll
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i do

raw marsh
crimson scroll
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such a dumb way to force combos

atomic elm
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@tall cove this is my setup (look at my mice headset and mousepad)

tall cove
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nice

little quiver
little quiver
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btw I'm looking for a compact keyboard, I want a Steelseries one but the Glorious brand looks pretty good for the price. Can anyone compare the two?

sacred crescent
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I have the qck large dune haggar with the mm710, arctis 1 wired and the redragon k552

sacred crescent
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idk

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im just replying to other people

little quiver
sacred crescent
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oh sorry

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😄

little quiver
crimson scroll
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@little quiver the gmmk pro seems very good value

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gasket mount, rotary encoder for $80 is amazing

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slap in a couple of whatever switch you want

little quiver
crimson scroll
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personally i'd go with the pro

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keep in mind you still have to add switches and caps to the pro

noble oak
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sup guys

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what do u guys think is a good pc from 1000 dollars to 2500

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dm if u have any ideas

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thx

crimson scroll
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that's a broad range

wind minnow
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want a pcpartpicker list?

tranquil quarry
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Finally managed to order a 3070 😍

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Got a Gigabyte Eagle OC on the way from Amazon 😋

brittle parrot
idle bridge
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jesus

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That's one hell of a machine

little quiver
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prebuilt or can you put it together yourself?

trail mirage
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Best microphone around $100 (not headset)

trail mirage
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Thanks

tall cove
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There are a bunch of great options that come with boom arms

little quiver
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yeah but if you want to spend under 100 you should get the best mic you can for it

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I didn't do tons of research though so you might know some better ones

idle bridge
crimson scroll
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at2020 is on sale for $100

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you need to have an xlr interface for it though

idle bridge
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If you have 2500 dollars for just the computer I would recommend something like an AMD Ryzen 5900x, an Asus ROG Strix x570-E Gaming, a fast M.2 SSD (WD, samsung or whatever), and than a 850W 80+ gold PSU

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Wait frick the mobo is like 100 buck more expensive in the US wtf

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I am not home home right now I'll make a parts list when I get homr

little quiver
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we dont even know if he wants prebuilt yet

crimson scroll
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?

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"better than us"?

little quiver
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well if its bad he would blame you guys

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I personally wouldnt want to be blamed

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but

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you guys know more than me

crimson scroll
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so never do anything and never take responsibility for anything

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got it

little quiver
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nononono

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its just that it was a pretty broad request so 'we' can't really find him exactly what he wants if we don't know exactly what he wants

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so it seemed like he should ask somebody who knows what he wants the PC to be like

crimson scroll
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i agree with that

crimson scroll
noble oak
crimson scroll
wind minnow
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It's a broad price range

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Could you narrow it down a little?

crimson scroll
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also when are you buying

blazing dew
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yo

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me building a pc

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50k taka budget

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which is 589.56 USD

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help

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🙂

crimson scroll
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i have no idea what prices are like in bangladesh, since it's not listed in pcpp

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you got any local stores you can list?

blazing dew
crimson scroll
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so it's from a single retailer

blazing dew
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I'm thinking an rz 570 which is 17k

blazing dew
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I'm using the startech

crimson scroll
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the fact that they separate into two different sticks of ram is annoying

blazing dew
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total of 32,450

blazing dew
crimson scroll
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no i mean when you add it to the list

blazing dew
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oh

crimson scroll
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it's two separate sticks instead of a kit

blazing dew
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you can choose single kits as well

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thats what I took

crimson scroll
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none of the cases on that list have good airflow

blazing dew
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I'm getting a Dark Flash leo dont worry abt the case @crimson scroll

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also getting and rx 570 as a gpu

crimson scroll
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k

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you don't have to tag me every time btw

blazing dew
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ook

crimson scroll
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how much are you paying for the 570

blazing dew
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17k

crimson scroll
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5500xt is 18.2k and better

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will fit in your budget

blazing dew
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hmm

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lemme see it

crimson scroll
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you're just gaming, right

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i would go with the 10100f over the 3500

blazing dew
crimson scroll
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ram is fine, i would look at the wd blue m.2 sata for 6k

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yes

blazing dew
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🙂

crimson scroll
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well 10100f has HT and 3500 doesn't

blazing dew
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HT...

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what is that : )

crimson scroll
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hyperthreading

blazing dew
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oh

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hmm

blazing dew
crimson scroll
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yes

blazing dew
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hmm

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what does hyperthreading rly do?

crimson scroll
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each physical core acts as two basically

blazing dew
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huh

crimson scroll
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so you can do more stuff at once

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it's not really 2x performance, it varies between what tasks you do

blazing dew
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all ima do is keep google, obs and a game

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ok gtg

brittle parrot
little quiver
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Toshiba doesn't suckkkk, but it's not gonna work for gaming

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thats for sure

idle bridge
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@crimson scroll What you think about this one ?

crimson scroll
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not bad

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i'd wait for the s2721dgf or lg850 to go on sale

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looks like a good stand too

brittle parrot
idle bridge
crimson scroll
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what pc specs

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you linked the monitor

idle bridge
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oh wait n sec

idle bridge
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My dumbass forgot to post the second link xd

crimson scroll
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get a better primary ssd

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and a better secondary

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only a 3070 on a $2500 build?

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lpx and slow memory

idle bridge
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I included the moniter in the price

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Read the 2 lines after the link to the screen

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Initially I had a 970 evo for primary ssd and 3600 mhz memory

crimson scroll
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i'd say skip the mag, get a tuf pro or something for $180 or less

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get the ballistix 3200cl16 at least if you're gonna do 3200cl16

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same price and better

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if he's just gaming, 5600x is perfectly fine

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also that has $540 for the 5800x, so that's another 90 bucks

idle bridge
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All he said is that his budget was round 2500 usd :/

crimson scroll
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i know

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but even if you use the 5800x, it's at the price of the 5900x

idle bridge
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True but you wont really be able to find a 5900x for anywhere close to the MSRP

crimson scroll
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best buy

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i just got my 5600x for msrp

idle bridge
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Damn

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Alrigt just gonna pop on the 5900x then for him

crimson scroll
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my point was more that you could shave 90 bucks off the list price

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otherwise your 600 dollar 3070 isn't realistic either

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best buy also drops them periodically now

idle bridge
crimson scroll
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870 qvo is QLC unfortunately

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can we find a 2tb that's TLC?

idle bridge
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Few notes to the build:
If you aren't gonna use your pc for anything other than gaming / streaming, you might as well downgrade to a 5800x or a 5600x
You can ofc change the case but that might need reconfiguration of the fans.

crimson scroll
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personal preference, i'd prefer the p500a drgb over the p600s but the p600s is fine, can swap out the front

idle bridge
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Ye

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I initially went p500a but took p600s for a little overhead on price of he wanted to change case

crimson scroll
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i like the list otherwise, good to do most tasks pretty competently

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now to find out if they're actually buying

idle bridge
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Yep

noble oak
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school work and gaming

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any suggestions

crimson scroll
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so basically just gaming

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also me and noah already came up with a list

idle herald
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is it okay to have the system fans (not the aio cpu ones) set to not spin when the cpu and gpu temps r low (e.g. ~30 C) or should there always be airflow?

crimson scroll
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better to have them spinning

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starting and stopping is generally worse than keeping it running

tall cove
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This is mind boggling

static pecan
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Ew

crimson scroll
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newegg sucks

static pecan
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At least it isn't sold and shipped by Newegg lol

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That would make it even worse

heavy kindle
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Anyone here familiar with PNY Brand? I found a cheap 3060ti but has a PNY brand on it.

crimson scroll
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yeah

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what about it?

heavy kindle
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is it okay?

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i mean

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is there negative thing about the brand

crimson scroll
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eh

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not really

heavy kindle
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cause honestly this is the fuirstime ive heard of em

crimson scroll
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go by models rather than brands

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they're pretty established though

heavy kindle
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so weird question.

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what are the difference about gpu brands

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is it fans?

static pecan
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Mainly just aesthetics

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Assuming you're talking about brands as in PNY, ASUS, Gigabyte, etc. and not Nvidia vs AMD

heavy kindle
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Yes

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I mean no durability or something like that?

crimson scroll
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disagree

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aesthetics, yes

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but also thermals and noise

heavy kindle
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so...

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durability then?

crimson scroll
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most gpus of the same chip will perform roughly the same

heavy kindle
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since it has thermal differences

crimson scroll
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but they'll have different amounts of noise and heat on the chip

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sure, durability

static pecan
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True, and in some instances there is noticeable differences in temp and fan noise, but for the most part a GPU of the same designation like the 3060 will preform about the same

crimson scroll
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yep, said that

heavy kindle
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Welp, might as well look for a better brand then i guess

crimson scroll
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pny is...fine

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the uprising is not great thermally but if it's in stock, go for it

static pecan
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Yeah if you can actually get a PNY card that's in stock for not a ridiculous price then go for it

crimson scroll
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basically for gpu coolers you're looking for big heatsinks + smaller, unobtrusive shrouds so hot air can escape

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i'd look up reviews comparing various models, but honestly right now it's whatever you can get in stock for a reasonable price like alan said

heavy kindle
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$600 is the cheapest i can find tbh

crimson scroll
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ehh

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you in the US?

heavy kindle
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Nah

crimson scroll
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where

heavy kindle
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Asia

crimson scroll
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not super familiar with pricing there, sorry

heavy kindle
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so there's like almost $100 difference if im gonna get a different brand

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Like gigabyte or somethiung liek that

crimson scroll
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not really worth it imo

static pecan
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Nah

brittle parrot
idle bridge
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The brands I can recommend are: EVGA, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Zotac and founders edition

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Basically any brand you can trust is what you should go for in these times

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Just be aware that there are a lot of "paper edition" gpus on places like ebay, which are literally just a printed piece of paper with a picture of the GPU on it

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Look for reviews and make sure that the GPU fits in your case

raw marsh
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Now to get the rest of my parts 😄

prime thicket
brittle parrot
brittle parrot
echo tide
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i am wondering if it worth to buy 3200 MHz or higher?

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some are saying with more MHz u get more fps but what are u guys saying?

crimson scroll
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Current founders are fine

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They're a bit warm but not as bad as the old blower designs

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And they're cheaper msrp than the aib cards

crimson scroll
echo tide
crimson scroll
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Depends on what cpu you're using

echo tide
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ryzen 7 5800x

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i am gonna to buy one

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so i am wondering

crimson scroll
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3600 is around the sweet spot

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You can get decent 3200cl16 and oc it to 3600cl16

echo tide
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can u link me one maybe with rgb

crimson scroll
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Why the 5800x though

echo tide
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maybe from corsair or so

crimson scroll
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Corsair ram isn't great

echo tide
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why?

crimson scroll
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Don't always hit their rated speeds

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Not great overclockers compared to other models in general

echo tide
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okay can u also link me an other

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not from corsair

crimson scroll
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Later when I'm at my computer

echo tide
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okay ty bro

crimson scroll
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Why are you going with a 5800x?

echo tide
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nice performance

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cause the new gen from intel is not that good intead of rendering and stuff like that

crimson scroll
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you do rendering work that uses lots of cores?

echo tide
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no

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only gaming

crimson scroll
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generally the 5800x isn't a good price/perf choice compared to the 5600x, the 5900x, or if you have access to microcenter, the 10700k/9700k/10600k

echo tide
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and streaming

crimson scroll
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if you're gaming and streaming, i'd probably recommend a 5600x and use nvenc or the amd equivalent on your gpu for hardware encoding

echo tide
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idk man

devout wolf
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amd hasn't improved h.264 on their gpus sadly

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h.265 is good but can't twitch stream with it

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the 5800x is not worth over the 5600x just for gaming

echo tide
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so u say for streaming and gaming the 5600x is better?

devout wolf
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yes, if you're streaming off an nvidia gpu

crimson scroll
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the 5800x is better performance

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the 5600x is better price/performance

echo tide
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okay but i have an nvidia gpu

echo tide
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ty

crimson scroll
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yes, so use nvenc to stream off your nvidia gpu

echo tide
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that is for what?

crimson scroll
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nvenc is the nvidia hardware encoder

echo tide
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ahhhhhh

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but i cannot stream on twitch with the 5800x

crimson scroll
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you could

echo tide
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but

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?

crimson scroll
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you can stream off anything

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whether it's software or hardware implementation

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some are better than others

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some are more expensive than others

echo tide
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and u say i can better stream on the 5600x?

crimson scroll
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what we're saying is that while you would get better performance out of a 5800x, the price difference doesn't justify the extra performance

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so no, what i just said was that the 5800x has better performance, but the 5600x has better price/performance

echo tide
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hmmm

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but what is more
future proof?

crimson scroll
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think about it this way. You want to make french onion soup. You can buy 5 pounds of onions for 10 dollars, or 4 pounds of onions for 4 dollars

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5 pounds of onions is more, but it's more expensive per pound

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and you probably won't even use all your onions

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5800x is probably more future proof, but most games aren't even using 8 cores. I wouldn't worry so much about futureproofing

echo tide
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but i want to use the new pc for 4 years or so

crimson scroll
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5600x will be fine for that

echo tide
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okay ty u for the assessment

echo tide
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but i think i am going with the intel i 9 10900k

tall cove
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There is a micro center near my ikea so my hope is to pick up a i7 10th gen or an i9 and find some form of a 30 series

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And if I can do that then I’ll get nzxt’s z490 board

crimson scroll
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nice

tall cove
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I might just have to build a whole new pc at that point so it would be a slippery slope

teal geode
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i have a pc i build a few years ago and its running slow lately anybody know a possible cause

crimson scroll
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what are your temps like

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how much bloatware do you have installed

dreamy cargo
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and have you verged it

toxic cedar
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Need help guys, somebody please help. I have a problem that I am still figuring out what is happening. My monitor goes black screen, and my gpu fans revs up. My old gpu is a msi 1660 super ventus. I was able to borrow a 2060 to confirm that my old gpu was the problem. but just a few moments ago, the monitor again goes black and my new gpu fan's rev up. any idea what this is?

brittle parrot
prime thicket
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But RMA what, he said it's not the GPU

crimson scroll
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Yuck, Newegg is now refusing returns on 3000 series gpus and 5000 series cpus

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So scummy

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@toxic cedar we need more information. What do you mean by your monitor going black screen? Does it do that when you're playing a game? When you're trying to start up the computer?

toxic cedar
crimson scroll
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you have any overclocks?

toxic cedar
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nope 😦 dont know to do that stuff

crimson scroll
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What components do you have

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Other than the 1660 and 2060

toxic cedar
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r5 3600, b450 tomahawk, 2tb seagate hdd, 512gb xpg ssd, sxp 8x2 RAM, cm 750 bronze

crimson scroll
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what are your temps like on both gpus

toxic cedar
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max would be 44

crimson scroll
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that's pretty low

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are your drivers up to date

toxic cedar
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i tried with the msi gpu with afterburner, last logged temp before it goes black is 51. this on the other hand i saw it by 41

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yessir

crimson scroll
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can you check your event viewer and see what errors correspond to the crashes

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i'm guessing you may need to go back to an older driver revision

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also make sure you've plugged everything in securely

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loose connectors can cause issues like this

toxic cedar
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yes i checked every connector just to sure. also removed my cable exntensions 😦

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how can i check the event viewer sir?

crimson scroll
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search for event viewer in windows search

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it does sound like a psu or driver issue to me

toxic cedar
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im in. but i dont know what im looking for exactly. im on the exact minute it started but idk what i should be looking for

crimson scroll
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just look for critical errors

toxic cedar
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there is one that says "critical" and source "kernel-power" saying the system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. this error could be cause if the system stopped responding, crashed or lost power unexpectedly

crimson scroll
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that sounds like psu

toxic cedar
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a lot happened on that minute when it went black. and that is only the one saying critical

crimson scroll
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that specific error is usually based on other errors i believe, what else happened then

toxic cedar
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my acrnous active protection service was "terminated" according to the logs

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those were labelled as "error"

crimson scroll
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that's ransomware protection software

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doesn't sound super related

toxic cedar
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how about " a timeout was reached (45000 milliseconds) while waiting for the asComSvc service to connect

toxic cedar
# crimson scroll doesn't sound super related

logged the previous black screen events and they all said this:

there is one that says "critical" and source "kernel-power" saying the system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. this error could be cause if the system stopped responding, crashed or lost power unexpectedly

crimson scroll
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asComSvc is apparently an asus thing that communicates with the bios

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but yeah, might be your psu or drivers

toxic cedar
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trying to fix the drivers is the more possible thing i can do i think. psu, dont know how to borrow one to test it 😦

static pecan
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You could try swapping out the cables going to the GPU, there should be extra in the box. If it's black screening with different cables then if you can, RMA the PSU. If not, well you're probably going just have to buy a new one

merry dew
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uhh, I need a 1000 quid gaming pc, hmu with a system :)

crimson scroll
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seems okay

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looks like the right bottom row

lavish kraken
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Wdym bottom row

crimson scroll
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the spacebar row is often nonstandard on gaming keyboards

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the apex pro uses a standard row but keycaps targeted at gaming keyboards might use a nonstandard bottom row

lavish kraken
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So is it good??

crimson scroll
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the pro tkl uses a 6.25u spacebar with 1.25u keys on the bottom row

lavish kraken
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Ok

crimson scroll
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i have no idea about the quality of those caps i just know it'll fit

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so i can't tell you if it's good

lavish kraken
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No i only need if it fits

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i can find out if they feel good

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Its a thicken pbt keycap

crimson scroll
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be careful of warping

lavish kraken
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What does apex pro usev

crimson scroll
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pbt warps more than abs does

lavish kraken
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Says its heat resistant

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But u cant trust anything really

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maybe

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also wdym by warps

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Nvm

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i see now

crimson scroll
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warp: : a twist or curve that has developed in something originally flat or straight

lavish kraken
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Yeah yeah

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well ducky uses pbt

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And i never got any warping

crimson scroll
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it's not only the material that matters

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lots of factors

lavish kraken
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:(

crimson scroll
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pad printed? doubleshot? thickness?

lavish kraken
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Can it change sound of keyboard :))

crimson scroll
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yes

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different caps will have different sounds

lavish kraken
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It can -_o

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ohk

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Umm

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What keycaps do you reccomend?

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for tkl?

crimson scroll
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it's really subjective

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the caps i like aren't necessarily the caps you like

lavish kraken
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hmm depends

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cuz id really go with any thats cool weird or whatever

crimson scroll
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look up SA Maxkeys

lavish kraken
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Hmm

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They are nice :)

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but yeah i’ll stay with these coral sea keycaps

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isk

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Idk what do u think do you think its good with the black of the keyboard

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cuz its a little ok like it wont bother me

crimson scroll
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again, it's personal preference

lavish kraken
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i guess true ok

crimson scroll
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if you like it, who cares if I like it

lavish kraken
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YEAH

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Well ok

lavish kraken
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are these keycaps like this ok for apex pro

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well idk what type of switch keycaps i ned for apex pro

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cuz they are omnipoint and im not sure

sacred crescent
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holy crap i love those keycaps

static pecan
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@lavish kraken They should work fine

lavish kraken
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@static pecan

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UHH WHAT mouse do you reccomend

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cuz

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my mouse broke

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and i need a new one a good gaming one doesnt cost much doesnt cost too low

crimson scroll
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you should provide an actual budget

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everyone's definition of "too much" is different

lavish kraken
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oh

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ok

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umm

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how about

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70-120?

crimson scroll
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how much do you care about wireless

lavish kraken
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kinda

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wireless and wired

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👍

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but wired

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cuz wired equals better connection

crimson scroll
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not really

lavish kraken
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raelly

crimson scroll
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testing has shown virtually no difference, or a difference in favor of the wireless mouse, when comparing the gpro wireless and wired mice

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stuff like that, the razer viper ultimate, glorious model o wireless, etc. are all fine

lavish kraken
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oh ok then i dont really care wired or wireless

noble oak
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imo wireless is just annoying, cause wired is fine for me

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except with headphones

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it's also more expensive

crimson scroll
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mouse shape is pretty subjective on whether you like it or not

lavish kraken
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im gonna be playing minecraft

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and like fortnite

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and cod

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and i have been looking at glourious

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but not sure if i should get O, o-, or D

noble oak
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your mouse has almost no effect on your gameplay based on game, it's mostly just general gameplay

lavish kraken
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ok

noble oak
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unless you want more mouse buttons for a specific game

lavish kraken
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but what about the type of glourious mode

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model*

crimson scroll
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depends on if you prefer ergo or ambi mice and what size hand you have

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rjn covers sizing

lavish kraken
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my hands are pretty long

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it fits the logitech g903

noble oak
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what i did was just looked at them mice, the price, looks and reviews

lavish kraken
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should i get it from amazon

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Glorious Model O Gaming Mouse, Matte Black (GO-Black)

noble oak
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i dont actually have the mouse yet tho

noble oak
lavish kraken
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amazon

noble oak
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check for better prices in local stores

lavish kraken
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amazon

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its amazon tho

noble oak
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ok

lavish kraken
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thats

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the good

noble oak
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just saying "amazon"

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ok

lavish kraken
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amazon

crimson scroll
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let's not spam

pulsar fossil
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Let's not 👀 :)

lavish kraken
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was i tho???

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cuz i mean

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it was like

me: amazon}

Child: hey

me:amazon

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it wasnt like constant spam technically

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also i dont have to talk like i have a million dollars either :(

raw marsh
lavish kraken
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yes ik im already getting it from amazon

raw marsh
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It's different for everyone, everyone will perform differently

lavish kraken
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so doesnt matter

raw marsh
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It's just opinion, yes.

lavish kraken
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and not what to get

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just where to get

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cuz idk if i should get it in amazon or they might have it somewhere else better

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just asking to see if anyone got any better places

raw marsh
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Amazon have quick shipping and good support. Not many reasons to not go with them.

lavish kraken
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truew

crimson scroll
lavish kraken
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i dont need good grammar

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:D

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always

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it means

crimson scroll
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yikes

lavish kraken
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i dont need to talk fancy :(

raw marsh
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Well you don't 'need' to do anything, doesn't mean you shouldn't

lavish kraken
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its a discord server not your dunkin donuts job applicatio

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ok melker

crimson scroll
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makes it easier to understand when you communicate clearly

lavish kraken
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so

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do you know what

raw marsh
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🤨

lavish kraken
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idk means?

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or

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no not ok

crimson scroll
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associating proper grammar with having a million dollars is a bit asinine to me

lavish kraken
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maybe

crimson scroll
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i'm aware you can shorten things like idk, i don't care about that. You can use abbreviations and stuff and still communicate clearly

lavish kraken
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then

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but im just saying about the spamming

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was i really spamming?

crimson scroll
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yeah, don't do that

lavish kraken
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dont do what?

crimson scroll
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don't act like immediately deleting the message is going to help

raw marsh
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You are also allowed to put your sentance on one line of you want

crimson scroll
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you realize the mods can see everything you delete

lavish kraken
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no sassy

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i know they can see

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and i did mean to do that

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i just

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like clicking my keyboard

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and then i click enter :(

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so it comes out

crimson scroll
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type it out on a notepad to your heart's content then, don't do it here

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now please stop, this isn't even the channel for this

raw marsh
lavish kraken
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ok

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i will stop typing

raw marsh
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Cool

stuck bluff
#

Just to let you guys know before one of the mods does. This is defo the wrong chat and best in #💬-general.

raw marsh
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Right then

marble thistle
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ill just get the rival 3 on march

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because why not

lavish kraken
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sheesh

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wow thats alot!

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prices can be very different jeez

marble thistle
lavish kraken
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wow

little quiver
#

So I'm trying to find a good super cheap PC for a friend. They don't do much gaming but they're getting a new PC and looking for something sufficient for light games. Nothing intense. I don't know a ton about cheap parts and whats good quality or value and what's not so I though I should ask here. Defenitely trying to keep it around or $500 CAD

crimson scroll
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considering current gpu prices, your best bet is an APU

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something like a 3400g

burnt plinth
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But now for real. Is he doesn’t game a lot he shouldn’t even get a custom pc. Instead I would choose a prebuild.

pastel nymph
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anyone know if going from a rx580 to a 1080 for $220 is a good deal? im unsure myself if its worth it

idle bridge
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You're looking at sometim like a 30 to 40 percent uplift in performance at 1080 and 1440p

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On average

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Btw GTX 1080 has roughly the performance of an RTX 2060, coming in at about 98% the performance of the 2060

devout wolf
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that better not be userbenchmark percentage PU_SuperSweat

pastel nymph
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still sounds good tho

idle bridge
sacred crescent
little quiver
clear jacinth
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yes! it's only like $150 I believe

cerulean drift
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Is this pc worth 1050?

tall cove
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That’s only the cpu and the storage what gpu is it running

clear jacinth
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it says a 1660 super

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if you look closely in the first pic :p

crimson scroll
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It's not great

clear jacinth
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you'd pay roughly 200-250 for the building fees

tall cove
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True I’m blind

cerulean drift
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It’s 1000€

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Should i get it?

clear jacinth
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I don't think you should

craggy sparrow
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You could just build one because it’s not that difficult if you have a YouTube video in front of you

crimson scroll
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if you could get non scalped prices

raw marsh
raw marsh
faint parcel
faint parcel
next kayak
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yea

cerulean drift
next kayak
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700 dollars

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good value

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oof

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that sucks

tall cove
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Trying the newegg shuffle for a 3070

crimson scroll
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good luck

wary marlin
#

The 1660 super is very good for its price range

crimson scroll
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sure

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the price range it's supposed to be at

wary marlin
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But to pay 1000 euro for the other things is overpriced

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Im not sure

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But you can find better ones

deep scroll
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ASUS B85M-E/CSM LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

devout wolf
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what about it?

crimson scroll
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he was posting for us in VC

devout wolf
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ahh okay

warm axle
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Is building a PC overall cheaper than getting one pre-built for gaming?

crimson scroll
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generally yes

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right now, eh

crimson scroll
lavish kraken
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thank you sassy

echo creek
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Can someone help

steady hemlock
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is there a apex 5 red switch?

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or is it available in blue only?

devout wolf
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blue hybrids only

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apex 7 is the one with the blue/brown/red choice

bold parrot
#

Should I wait until the 3070 comes back in stock or should I get the new 3060 when it comes out this late February

raw marsh
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Being the cheapest one yet, it will also be the most popular

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3070 comes back in stock from time to time, but retailers are selling for up to £700 - if you can stomach that, you might as well.

bold parrot
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Oh I live in the US lmao

raw marsh
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Same thing for the most part

bold parrot
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Damn

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I just don’t know what I should do

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I wanted to get a pc before fncs

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But like there’s no gpu that I actually want

raw marsh
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Sign up for 3070 alerts and hope you get lucky

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Worked for me

raw marsh
bold parrot
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Yeah I know

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I’m tryin to qualify for finals

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And I play on console

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And I won’t even qualify for opens probably

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But I’ll set up 3070 alerts

raw marsh
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I got to champions way back when arena was a new thing

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Quit a long time ago tho

bold parrot
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Oof why?

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Did the game get boring?

raw marsh
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No, the comp stage just got difficult to keep up with

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It looks interesting now tho, but i hear a lot of pros are quitting?

tidal anchor
raw marsh
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Couple things - Arctic liquid coolers offer a better cooling solution (although its preferance), get an M.2 instead of a sata SSD, ans also youll struggle to get a 3070 for anything less that £700 so keep that in mind

inland badger
raw marsh
tidal anchor
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Really?

inland badger
#

yes

tidal anchor
#

Man I dont stay up to date on this for a month and im already so far behind

raw marsh
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Want me to amend it for you (to my own preferance)?

inland badger
#

its alright. plus, amd works way better with a 5600x rather than nvidia

tidal anchor
#

so how about now

raw marsh
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The differance is very minor

inland badger
#

ah, ive heard its just better compatibility

raw marsh
tidal anchor
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The ssd has

inland badger
#

oh i worded that way wrong im sorry. if you go with a ryzen cpu, i would recommend an amd gpu along with it, as they compute a bit better than if you were to cross nvidia and amd. im just a beginner, keep in mind, this is my first pc, thats just what my cousin told me

raw marsh
inland badger
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like i have a 2300x and a 570 rx in mine

raw marsh
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in your situation, that is

raw marsh
tidal anchor
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the website physcially says it

raw marsh
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no, you just need to flash the bios lmao

inland badger
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what they said ^

tidal anchor
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Ah just a update

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I see

crimson scroll
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not even necessarily

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you just MIGHT need to

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also there's no case on that list melker

raw marsh
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He was gonna go for a meshify C

tidal anchor
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so why would the 5600x beat the 3800x?

inland badger
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yea, wasnt it arctic brand or somethign close?

crimson scroll
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i'd rather go for a meshify s2 or something else but sure

inland badger
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if im not mistaken, doesnt the 5600x have more cores than the 3800x?

crimson scroll
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no, it doesn't

inland badger
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oh, srry

tidal anchor
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no its the other way around

crimson scroll
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it depends on what you're doing with the cpu

raw marsh
crimson scroll
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just gaming? 5600x will win

tidal anchor
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The 5600x has 6 the 3800x has 8

crimson scroll
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certain production tasks? 3700x is probably better

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meshify C doesn't come with many stock fans, i'd rather get a p400a or something that does melker

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it's only good when you add two+

raw marsh
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He didnt say a budget, so i thought it would be fine

crimson scroll
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right but then it becomes as expensive or more as as case that already has fans

raw marsh
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Perhaps

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Im not saying the meshify c is the BEST option, but its still an option

tidal anchor
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Well im not going for water cooled

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Its air cooled

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thats why the case has some decent air flow

idle bridge
#

You can't really watercool without air getting in and out of the case? Otherwise the hot air would just get trapped and hold on the heat, reducing performance

crimson scroll
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^

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it just takes a longer soak time for you to notice

idle bridge
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Yep

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You should just always get a case with great airflow

crimson scroll
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well

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there are lower power components for which it doesn't matter

idle bridge
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Yep, because they don't generate nearly as much heat

crimson scroll
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it depends on if aesthetics are more important to you or not

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wouldn't really recommend it but

idle bridge
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It's the same idea with laptops

craggy sparrow
idle bridge
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I didn't say it had to be amazing, just so it doesn't strangle your fans

craggy sparrow
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Yeah

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But like having a h510 is fine

idle bridge
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Eh

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Also, when using and AIO, you always want it to pump air out, otherwise the hot air gets pushed into the case

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Bad airflow can also be constricting fans, a lot of dust, if you turned your tower cooler wrong, etc

inland badger
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wasnt the h510 deemed with poor air flow for beginner builds?

tidal anchor
#

Oh nzxt cases suck

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the airflow for those are horrible

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also this is the case I want

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seems like it has good air flow ngl

inland badger
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thats actually such a beautiful case

craggy sparrow
inland badger
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the case seems like it has decent if not good airflow

tidal anchor
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I have a hard time believing that bc all of my friends who have nzxt cases say they have horrible airflow

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seriously my cousin drilled holes in his bc it was so bad

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im not kidding

craggy sparrow
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Yeah some of them do, but not all of them

tidal anchor
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well he got the h510 which is the smallest

inland badger
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isnt the h710 a good example of that cal?

tidal anchor
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Maybe a bigger one like the h710 would be better

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Idk I wanted the black and red version of the h710 but ive heard that one also has bad airflow

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hold on

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found a good describtion of the h710

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Conclusion. The H710 is pretty much the same case as the H700, and we liked the H700 well enough (note the omission of the -i). It's not the best-cooled chassis in the world, but it has SOME ventilation and it comes with four fans, and those four fans go a long way towards making up for the flat steel front panel.Oct 9, 2019

hollow palm
#

can someone help me build from the beginning

tidal anchor
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@hollow palm You in the nzxt server?

hollow palm
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nope

tidal anchor
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trust me they will help you there more than we can here

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just go to hardware in there

hollow palm
#

can u dm the invite

tidal anchor
#

Nah fam I got banned from it months ago

hollow palm
#

lool

toxic raftBOT
#
Mid Life Crisis Agent P#0714 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

tidal anchor
#

whoops

celest schooner
#

@tidal anchor I have the meshify c and I loved it

inland badger
#

@hollow palm ill search around for the server if you still need that inv

crimson scroll
#

the nzxt server will help more than here? debatable

celest schooner
#

@tidal anchor you can't fit the 30 seriers + a front aio cooler tho. Nor will a 280 rad fit up top.

inland badger
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that is even if they can find the 30 series, let alone 2 lol

celest schooner
#

@inland badger why 2?

inland badger
#

their pcpartpicker list had 2

idle bridge
celest schooner
#

@inland badger oh I didn't see that

crimson scroll
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your psu should actually probably be drawing air in

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not exhausting

celest schooner
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@inland badger but I got one no problem at microcenter. 3080

crimson scroll
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it'll exhaust out the back of the case

idle bridge
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There is a little arrow on the one with good airflow

celest schooner
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@crimson scroll that is correct

inland badger
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oh you lucky dog, you live close to a microcenter

crimson scroll
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maybe in sff scenarios you'll use it as exhaust

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yeah and the arrow points the wrong way noah

idle bridge
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Oh lmao

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Sorry I'm tired rn D:

crimson scroll
#

also gpus for the most part draw air from the bottom and exhaust out the sides

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so there's a third dimension

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it tends to go into the cpu tower cooler if you have one installed

idle bridge
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Would make 3d model but I don't know how and I can't be bothered to do it now

crimson scroll
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also you don't always want the top mount fan closes to the front

idle bridge
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It's not to scale

crimson scroll
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it can draw cold air away for tower coolers

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for aios, whatever

idle bridge
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It says AIO at the top...

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It's veryyy tiny doe

crimson scroll
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yeah i know

idle bridge
#

Aircooling does have roughly the same performance (If you set it up correctly)

crimson scroll
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for lower power parts

idle bridge
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true