#💻-building-a-pc

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stoic marten
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What mouse and keyboard do u use

idle bridge
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Rival 150 keyboard and Rival 650 mouse

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Rival 150 is pretty nice, pretty tactile, it's made of plastic but basically no flex in it

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It's for people who like to feel the click and hear the sound, but still a resonable price

stoic marten
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I use the apex 5 as my keyboard then mouse is areox 3 wirless light

idle bridge
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Rival 650 is nice, it's wireless, nice size for my hands, only thing that might get annoying is after prolonged use the rubber pads start slipping off

stoic marten
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And my head set is the apex 7x cause I have a series x not a pc

idle bridge
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What switches does your apex 5 have?

stoic marten
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Let me look

idle bridge
stoic marten
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Lol ya I use that headset a lot not those for gaming

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Maybe

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No nvm wrong ones

stoic marten
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I’ve been looking to switch them out but idk maybe in a month or so

next kayak
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wait you can switch the buls of apex 5

crimson scroll
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if you desolder

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you can swap out the switches of most keyboards

gilded frost
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Razer keyboards keycaps can be switched with hyper x double shot pdb I believe it is

crimson scroll
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keycaps are much easier

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just have to be careful about nonstandard bottom row

next kayak
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no but apex 5 is membrane

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the switch part has no electroincs

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just watch the tear down for apex5 on youtube

crimson scroll
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then you can't

next kayak
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yea

gilded frost
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Only the 60% and TE keyboard's have the compatible bottom row with hyper x keys

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(for razer)

devout wolf
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just weird naming

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hybrid blue =/= memechanical

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actually

next kayak
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it is

devout wolf
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i should watch the teardown just in case

next kayak
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lmao

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watch it

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it's membrane

crimson scroll
next kayak
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i watch it like a million times to figur out how i can fix my sweaky e key

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eeeeeee

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squesky

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so annoying

crimson scroll
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doesn't show the bottom of the switches

next kayak
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it does

crimson scroll
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if it's the same two pin contact as standard cherry, i'm sure you could swap them out

next kayak
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no wait

crimson scroll
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it's not standard

next kayak
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watch the last like 3 min

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don't skip

crimson scroll
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it just pushes one plastic tab down

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so you can't replace them with standard 2 pin switches

next kayak
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waittttttttttttt

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there that's the bottum

crimson scroll
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yes, that's what i'm talking about

next kayak
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oh shit i can't read

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sorry

crimson scroll
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these are standard cherry style switches

next kayak
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yea

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sorry i can't read lmao

crimson scroll
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the box jade on the left has no stabilizing plastic and the gat yellow on the right does

next kayak
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i need sleep

crimson scroll
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but both have two metal contacts

next kayak
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mhm

stoic marten
crimson scroll
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well the message you responded to is about switches

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i use SA purple and white though

stoic marten
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Those look sick

stoic marten
crimson scroll
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well, i bought them from keyclack but i believe they don't sell them anymore

stoic marten
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Oh

crimson scroll
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doesn't look like mechanicalkeyboards has much maxkey stock right now either

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a lot of custom keycap sets are done through GB or have very limited stock since demand is low

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so it can be hard to find older sets

stoic marten
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And those are all keycaps right not keyboards

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And are they good

crimson scroll
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yes they're just keycaps

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imo the quality is fine

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the ones i listed are all SA profile

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you may not be used to that

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cherry or OEM is likely what you're used to

stoic marten
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Ok

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And what keycap puller do u use

crimson scroll
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none

stoic marten
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Ya I use cherry

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And how do you find good key caps cause I can’t find any good ones

crimson scroll
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do your research, find out what kind of material they're using, if the company that's making or distributing them is reputable

stoic marten
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Oh

crimson scroll
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if you want the nice DSA colorways, you generally have to wait for group buys

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the third link is for group buys specifically but it's more reliable than going off of group buys where you send to one person's paypal

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amazon also has some decent sets

stoic marten
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Hey does anyone have any good cherry keycaps if u do pls send me the link

idle herald
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quick question for those familiar with memtest

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is there a problem i need to take care of if memtest86 shows a single error (test 8) for 1/4 passes or should i be fine (e.g. no need to replace ram or anything)? i know it shouldnt show any errors at all but was still wonder, and im running my ram with an xmp profile on but no other overclocks or adjustments

crimson scroll
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what cpu are you using?

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also you can run ram with errors, it means it's unstable, but doesn't tell you necessarily at what point it's unstable

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i've run my ram at unstable clocks but never once crashed in any normal application, only when i run stress tests

idle herald
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I'm running a 5600x, but I've also stress tested a few times without ever crashing

crimson scroll
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it's probably fine

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what's the xmp profile

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and what soc voltage are you running

idle herald
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3600mhz and I'll check that in a few min

crimson scroll
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sounds like it should be well within spec

idle herald
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where do I check soc voltage?

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bios?

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idk if this is it but

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the cpu NB/soc voltage is 1.112 V set on auto

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and the dram volateg is 1.364 V set on auto

crimson scroll
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dram voltage is the voltage provided to the ram

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soc voltage seems fine too

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i wouldn't worry about it

idle herald
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alright thanks

crimson scroll
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if you encounter crashing due to memory, then we can revisit and maybe loosen the tightenings or something

idle herald
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ill update u if anything happens lol, but i hope nothing happens

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kinda worried and kinda not bc this only happened in like 2/12 passes

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anyways thanks

atomic grail
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So uh

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My gpu won’t work

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Without it being slanted

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So uhh the highlighter is now part of my pc

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Not even sure if that’s safe lol

lean quarry
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hey what upgrade do you recommend, i have a ryzen 3 1200 and a gtx 1050 ti and i want to upgrade them both but not for a high price

prime thicket
atomic grail
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🤔

lunar kayak
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yeah just get a lifting sag brick / bracket

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akasa and others make some

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as for the 1200 / 1050 Ti upgrade, i'd say go for the GPU if you want to actually game

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save up as much as you can and grab a 3060

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then you could probably upgrade the 1200 later.

prime thicket
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the exact one I have ^

lunar kayak
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that looks like it could be bit of a problem, i'm not in for Uphere products like their cheap and crappy fans, but the bracket looks more sensible

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i prefer the ones that just go up and down from the bottom of your case

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so you wouldn't end up blocking your other possible PCI-E cards.

stoic marten
raw marsh
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Im assuming he doesent even need that going from a 1200 - best bet is a 5600x which goes for a reasonable price

stoic marten
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The ryzen 5 is only 750

raw marsh
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'only 750'

stoic marten
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Ya when ur looking at cyber powers that’s pretty low

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Cyber powers run near 1000-3000

raw marsh
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cyberpower? Why would he want to buy a prebuilt

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not a good idea unless you really need a 30 series quickly

stoic marten
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Idk Ik a lot of ppl who do

raw marsh
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Always best to build yourself - cheaper, looks better and ensures you dont get a crappy motherboard and PSU

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Not to mention its a fun experience

stoic marten
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Not when u got to rebuild it

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I helped my friend but I was like ya I’m not doing this so I got a x

raw marsh
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It isn't much of a hassle, just watch a damn YouTube video if you're struggling

stoic marten
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That’s what we did he got it done I’m those not trying to build a pc

lunar kayak
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you also just said ryzen 5 without talking about which specific CPU

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i'd say do more research before talking such stuff

raw marsh
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I mean he can still talk about it

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This isn't a bad place to learn about PCs in the first place

lunar kayak
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yeah true

prime thicket
fossil valley
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Im running off integrated gpu after my last pc (2080) took a bath through a leaky roof

raw marsh
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Sam but if you have plenty of cash to blow you might care about not waiting

fossil valley
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thats fair

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i was thining abt just going for it but

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i dont want to support that

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i might as well bite the bullet and go 3090 at tht point

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tons of those are popping up as msrp rn

raw marsh
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but if you can afford it, its a beast

fossil valley
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its a bit over budget if im honest

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but if its a bit over versus not having one for months?

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might just do it

lunar kayak
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why not just get a 3060 Ti

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10-15 FPS seemingly above your old 2080

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fits the price tag too

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then take the 2080 to an another PC

raw marsh
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So why not

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And he will actually be able to get it

craggy sparrow
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What are you gonna use a 3090 for?

lunar kayak
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exactly, a 3090 seems like a way overkill GPU for most things

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personally i rock 3440x1440 around 100 Hz tops so a 3060 Ti is about what i need

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maybe save for flight sim 2020.

craggy sparrow
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The reason you’re buying a 3090 is for the 24gb of gddr6x memory

lunar kayak
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i mean a 3090 is like THE card for flight sim MS

craggy sparrow
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So if you’re not gonna use that to it’s potential just get a 3080

lunar kayak
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rest you can be assured a 3060 Ti will carry at most res.

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or even a 3070

craggy sparrow
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Because it’s definitely not worth the 1000 or odd more for a 3090

lunar kayak
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agreed

fossil valley
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oop

craggy sparrow
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Welp

lunar kayak
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or maybe a nice AMD GPU

fossil valley
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Gsync monitor OP

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I'm probably gonna wait out the 3080

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3070 at least tbh

craggy sparrow
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Yeah

fossil valley
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3060ti seems like it might struggle with upcoming titles running 120hz+ at 1440p ultrawide

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esp games like cyberpunk

raw marsh
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For Cyberpunk at least

fossil valley
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i mean theres a reason i shelled out for a 2080 on release day

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it worked well on just about any title i tried until it

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you know

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took a shower

lunar kayak
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yeah..

crimson scroll
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3060ti is slightly better or about equal to the 1080ti in most games so yes, it would not be able to consistently hit 1440p UW 120hz unless you turn the settings down

raw marsh
crimson scroll
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i mean, yeah

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and it has dlss

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i'm talking straight up raster comparisons

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otherwise you can't make a comparison at all

raw marsh
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Of course

crimson scroll
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besides, RT would bring its performance down even further from 1440p 120hz

velvet linden
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Can someone from Tokyo built me a japanese branded PC

idle bridge
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bruh, just get some anime girl stickers and some dolls, preferable from one anime, then you got a styled PC

crimson scroll
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japan styled doesn't necessarily mean anime

idle bridge
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🙂

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Just assumed he was a weeb

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😐

devout wolf
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i mean

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are all pcs in the US full of mcdonalds vinyls?

idle bridge
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I don't really associate the USA with anything

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The culture is pretty broad

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But if it had to be something it would be McDonalds, Guns, bald eagles and the white house

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Along with other attractions (Maybe themed after a state)

gilded frost
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I’d say us is most known for guns

idle bridge
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Depends on where you're from

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but yea

idle herald
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yall know why is my 5600x not going above 3.7ghz even when under load? isnt the boost supposed to be 4.6ghz

crimson scroll
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you have some weird power settings going on?

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what's your voltage settings at

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also it depends on what number you're reporting back for frequency

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boost =/= all core boost

static pecan
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Most likely culprit is Windows Power Plan so check that first and set it to high performance if it isn't already

deep scroll
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Hello there, I'm trying to put something together for a friend, he wants a pc that can run cold war, gta v, and r6s at 4k display with a budget of 1500. I'm a bit stuck on how I'm gonna get all that at just 1500, so I need some help

crimson scroll
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does 1500 include the monitor

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a 3070 will run r6s at 4k ultra 144fps, gtav at 4k around 70fps with some lowered settings, not sure about cold war but you can look up some benchmarks. a 3080 will get you 180 in r6s, 95 in gtav. A 6800xt will get you 150fps in r6s, around 90fps in gtav, while a 6800 will get you around 130, 80fps in the two games, respectively

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QfZDMv you'd be looking at something like this, just change out the gpu. You're not really gonna be able to find anything in stock though so it's really just a placeholder, where you'll be lucky to get a 3070 for 550

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a 3060ti should hold above 60fps in all the titles you mentioned as well

novel mirage
# idle bridge The culture is pretty broad

The US is really a bagful of stuff. In the north, say, there’s a bunch of mountaineers, country is rednecks, the south often has a lot of Hispanic people, beaches are pretty much anyone, and then a whole bunch of other stuff in various places.

lunar kayak
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what does that have to do with building a PC

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even

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also that's literally the whole world

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such a pointless text.

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if you can't adapt to where you live, that's your issue.

crimson scroll
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they were going off on a tangent about japan-themed PC cases

lunar kayak
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oh

crimson scroll
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you can click the message that was responded to to see context

lunar kayak
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yeah well i'm tired tbh

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you talked about a 3060 Ti not being able to deliver 120 FPS at 3440x

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which i also found pointless, depends on the game and settings

crimson scroll
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?

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am i wrong?

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i mentioned that caveat

lunar kayak
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you are kind of wrong

crimson scroll
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how so

lunar kayak
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just reduce resolution scale and you'll get that 120 FPS

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depends on the game and settings

crimson scroll
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then it's not actually 1440p ultrawide

lunar kayak
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i'm repeating myself

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well you can get 120 FPS with such config

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it's a matter of fact

crimson scroll
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sure

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and i said that

lunar kayak
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sorry then

crimson scroll
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so...you're not really adding anything

lunar kayak
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well what you said didn't rhyme

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ok well whatever

crimson scroll
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dude

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read the last part of what i wrote

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who cares about my sentences rhyming

lunar kayak
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3060 Ti is better than a 1080 Ti tho

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you were right

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i apologize

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sorry this keyboard is just loud and i couldn't focus on the whole comment

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i don't want to cause trouble, that's all

tranquil quarry
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I beg some miracle happens soon and 3070/80s come back into stock

crimson scroll
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nvidia canceled the 3080ti for now to help with that

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but yeah...not hopeful

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scalpers everywhere

tranquil quarry
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This whole cryptocurrency stuff has made it so much worse, you think they'll get it sorted anyways before March?

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Wishful thinking I know 😂

crimson scroll
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no

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i don't expect covid to be in control by then; my uni doesn't expect to be able to get vaccines in for most of us until spring so the rest of the US likely won't be by that point either

tranquil quarry
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I'm in Ireland but they've only just started rolling out the vaccine to health workers

crimson scroll
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that's going to keep demand up and make it harder to ship things

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a lot of consumer products are shipped out on consumer flights, which aren't super common right now

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and PPE is still taking up cargo space as well

tranquil quarry
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Yeah that's true tbf, so upsetting just looking at my pc every day but not being able to play on it

crimson scroll
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the used market isn't great but at least there's stuff available there as well

tranquil quarry
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Yh I've still got a like 16 year old(or older) ATI graphics card in it just to have the pc running and use it for uni work and stuff

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Everytime I open anything with basic animations or graphics the fan accelerates for a few seconds before slowing down again 😆

crimson scroll
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16 years old? you're really overdue

tranquil quarry
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Yh got it from an old pc that was lying around at my uncles, only built the pc a few weeks ago

deep scroll
lunar kayak
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well you can build a beast for $1500 w/o monitor included in the budget

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i'm a fan of the 3060 Ti myself because that monitor likely has VRR so they wouldn't need 150 FPS or some other inane amount

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though 3070 might be better at UHD

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alternatively, an AMD GPU. i haven't checked AMDs much lately but they're not too awful either

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such as a custom RX 6800, so expensive though.. nvidia options look better.

crimson scroll
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both are expensive

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it's really just whatever you can get right now

lunar kayak
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yeah

crimson scroll
vague pine
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i7 9700k vs i9 9900

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which one is better and why?

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using it for streaming fortnite

idle bridge
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well, there are some pretty big differences

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9700k has 8 CPU cores, but NO multithreading, the i9-9900 has 8 cores 16 thread

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i9 has 4 more mb of L3 cache

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Uh

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Can't remember more

median rivet
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The i9 would give you better headroom for streaming

idle bridge
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cause more threads

next kayak
crimson scroll
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9900 isn't overclockable

toxic raftBOT
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Jacob.#9661 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

next kayak
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oops sorry

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is there a list i can see of the bad words

devout wolf
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but still, x264 is nice to use if you have a hcc cpu anyway

static pecan
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Being able to use x264 on my 5900X is great lol

stoic marten
next kayak
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lmao

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neweeg

crimson scroll
static pecan
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Congratulations, brother. You can now be a part of Zen 3 gang!

crimson scroll
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i'm halfway to itx now

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just need the sf750 and nr200

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and then a buyer for my old stuff

static pecan
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Noice

crimson scroll
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weird how the tariffs have hit gpus but not motherboards and cpus yet

astral belfry
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maybe cuz of how coveted they r

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maybe cuz of the high demand

crimson scroll
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all three are high demand

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it could be intel, amd, and all the motherboard manufacturers and retailers lowering prices to keep them at pre-tariff levels

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but that doesn't seem likely to me

static pecan
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My understanding is that GPUs are specifically targeted by the tariffs, but not other components like CPUs and mobos that's why there have only been price hikes announced for GPUs

crimson scroll
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this says motherboards at least are also targeted

static pecan
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Interesting. I guess GPUs and mobos are the components most likely to be manufactured in China vs other stuff or maybe those things just have higher import rates from China compared to other components

crimson scroll
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a lot of those companies are taiwanese but don't produce all their stuff in taiwanese factories

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i looked through list 4a and 4b and couldn't find anything to do with gpus, mobos, or cpus though

lunar kayak
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those EK CSQ style holes look like garbage

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looks like the GPU is taking a shower.

noble oak
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I got a Tuf B450 Plus Gaming Motherboard will a ryzen 5 1600 will it fit

static pecan
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Yes

lunar kayak
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yeah, during the winter or even summer if you have AC, the stock cooler will do

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what question

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i'm just talking in general

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all B450 have to support the 1600 out of box

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if that's the matter of question.

crimson scroll
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well, amazon canceled my order because of "technical" issues

lunar kayak
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snow?

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what did you order?

swift mesa
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best mic under 50$??

lunar kayak
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around 50 bucks, i'd say the blue snowball

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because it's actually got a stereo mode

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so you could hear yourself in stereo and sing whatever you want

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when you're not talking to other people

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it should be half decent for vocals.

swift mesa
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Alright will check reviews

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See how it is

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Thank you

lunar kayak
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you're welcome

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it's $100 btw

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so.. uh, i'd say try saving up a bit maybe

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personally i've been looking at the MXL V67Q stereo, but it's like $300

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at the very least in where i live, needs some other semi-pro grade equipment to roll with, as well..

devout wolf
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meh blue snowball is overrated

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just get a fifine k669 kit for cheaper

lunar kayak
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it kind of is but the fifine is not stereo right..

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more so, the fifine is like the bottom of the bar as far as mics go

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you know, like one of the cheapest condenser USB ball-type mics you can get

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don't take it too negative / personally.. but really, save up for something better

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you would thank yourself for it later.

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depends on the form and the polar pattern

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and whether it has to be USB / XLR

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this is the pickup pattern of my audix VX10

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if you want this kind of mic, you'll most likely want to go XLR

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otherwise you be fine with USB

merry dew
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Heya! Looking for the best 1500€ budget pc. I am in finland.

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(ordering abroad isnt possible, sorry)

lunar kayak
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monitor included or no

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what use case?

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and what about the peripherals, etc..

devout wolf
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the fifines have better audio quality than the snowball

crimson scroll
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i mean

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i use a k669

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nobody complains about my audio quality

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it's good for the budget

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considering i got it for like $23

lunar kayak
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lol i doubt that the fifine is better than the snowball

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it's like saying UpHere fans are better than legit proper bearing corsair stuff.

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yeah the snowball is a bit pricey, but it is what it is

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you kind of get what you pay for

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you aren't getting no insert boutique studio / stage mic setup here for 50 bucks.

crimson scroll
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Nobody's saying that...

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Why recommend something so far out of budget

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I don't recommend noctua fans for the $500 pc

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And the fact is, most people don't even need a boutique studio /stage mic setup

median rivet
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I've just found out that there's fans that link together

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I need them.

lunar kayak
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somebody did say fifine is better than snowball

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that's why

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i personally don't feel like it is

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but that kind of discussion has no end

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and yeah there are fans that use same pins to one end linking themselves.

crimson scroll
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Where did they say it was better

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Audio quality wise?

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I have no opinion on that either way

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My point is mostly about recommending stuff that's not in budget

lunar kayak
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are you blind bro..

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he literally said it right above.

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"the fifines have better audio quality than the snowball"

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that's quoting him..

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you are correct about the over-budget suggestions, however i'd say the snowball is worth it if you're into doing karaoke yourself

crimson scroll
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Yeah the "audio quality wise" line that I said was referring to that

lunar kayak
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exactly

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anyways..

sharp gazelle
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Opinions on the Razer Seiren X?

lunar kayak
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crap

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lol

prime thicket
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most razer shit is crap tbh

lunar kayak
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yeah lol

prime thicket
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I had a razer man'o'war and the headband padding snapped off, got a replacement sent out and the mic stopped working, they said they wouldn't do anything because it was "caused by [me]" (not true). Decided to void the warranty and take apart the headset and saw that the mic wire inside the headset had come unsoldered...

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🙄

static pecan
sharp gazelle
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And both can be mounted on its regular stand and a desk mount too right?

static pecan
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I've been using a Yeti for the last 5 years and it's great, never had any issues with it and the audio quality is still good for how most people would use it

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Only thing is that it can be kinda hard to find an arm that will support Yetis A) you need to make sure it comes with a thread adapter to fit on a regular mount and B) need to make sure the arm itself will support the weight of a Yeti because some of the sub-$30 arms will claim to support a yeti by including an adapter but then buckle under the weight when you try to use it

sharp gazelle
static pecan
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It's one from Tonor that was like $35. I'll see if I can find the exact one in a bit

sharp gazelle
static pecan
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@sharp gazelle This is the one I bought. Been using it for about a month now and haven't had any issues. It's sturdy and assembly is pretty easy. Yeti adapter comes pre-installed as well

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Plus it has an included headphone hangar on the clamp which I find useful since I didn't have a good place for my Arctis 5s before

devout wolf
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yes some of them actually outperform LLs

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and if we're talking MLs

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their OEM sells the same fans without the rgb for $10 a pop

craggy sparrow
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I got ll120s because they just look so nice

hushed knoll
#

can i like switch out the fan on my nzxt aio to a ll120 lol

crimson scroll
#

Sure, you could

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Might get worse performance

noble oak
#

any suggestions on a good cpu and gpu for a budget pc $1000, i play valorant and i wanna try warzone or apex

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ik warzone and apex are pretty hefty

crimson scroll
#

10400 for the cpu

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Good luck on the gpu

noble oak
#

lmao rip

crimson scroll
#

You can also look at the 10600k

noble oak
#

k

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thx

crimson scroll
#

5600x is an option but it shares the same issues as gpus right now

noble oak
#

yeah

crimson scroll
#

And any gpu I recommend that fits the budget is going to be overpriced

noble oak
#

rip

#

just out of curiosity how much do u think the pc would cost with your IDEAL cpu and gpu, and then the rest, just an estimate

crimson scroll
#

Ideal for those games?

noble oak
#

yea

crimson scroll
#

I'm not on my computer so I can't check but with current prices, if you wanted 1080p 144hz, I think 1000 is doable

noble oak
#

nice

crimson scroll
#

You'd be looking at around 450 for cpu, mobo, and cooler

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Another 400 for a 5600xt

noble oak
#

ah

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plus peripherals obv

crimson scroll
#

And you'd have to skimp a bit on the rest

noble oak
#

so about 1300

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total

crimson scroll
#

If we're including the monitor, etc, that's another 200-300

noble oak
#

yea

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k thx

crimson scroll
#

150 for a case, ssd, and psu is actually low

#

Probably closer to 170 at best, without getting garbage conponents

tender turtle
#

I got my new i9 but i think i broke it a tiny bit will it still work?

crimson scroll
#

That's not an i9

#

That's a piece of garbage

tender turtle
#

damn😔 ‼️

pastel nymph
#

just put it in rice

median rivet
#

rip i9

crimson scroll
#

nice.

#

wonder if it's significantly cheaper than a gt1030

dense turret
#

they are still making GT cards?

crimson scroll
#

yeah

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good if you just need to display anything

#

like a movie

dense turret
#

atleast its pascal, which is alright

dense turret
lunar kayak
#

@devout wolf corsair fans are better than uphere full stop.

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you get the point

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you're just wasting time going into the details talking about what corsair fan is sold as OEM for cheaper

#

uphere fans look like complete garbage

#

buy actual fans with sound dampening neoprene on sides, period.

prime thicket
#

I love the look of Corsair LLs but they're expensive as hell

mossy forge
#

and corsair knows it

#

the RGB ones should be $15 but they're like $40 a fan

gilded frost
#

They’re expensive and not worth it

#

P12 fans

crimson scroll
#

depends on if you want rgb or not

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i don't like the look of the unifans, kinda blocky and the angled rgb looks weird to me

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but that's some fantastic tech

#

super useful in sff probably

gilded frost
#

The Frost white P12 looks pretty good

idle bridge
#

Tbh people should just buy what they actually need. Got a radiator? Buy fans with static pressure 🙂

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Have a long case? Buy airflow fans

#

Performance then aesthetics. Doesn't matter that your fans have RGB if they don't work

lunar kayak
#

this is the dumbest discussion so far

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i have some P12s and they are goddamn BLACK

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buy black so you can see dust.

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also corsair came up with a truckload of different fans over the years

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you're just talking about the expensive RGB garbage.

crimson scroll
#

everybody is approaching this from their own use case

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nothing wrong with black fans

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some people won't even see them, or have dust filters

lunar kayak
#

dust filters are just mid term solution

#

at the end of the day any passive or active device will get dusty

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so it makes more sense IMO to buy black

#

as far as fans go anyway

crimson scroll
#

what were you even arguing about up there then

lunar kayak
#

buying white P12s.

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they're rarer, and show dust more

crimson scroll
#

people can do that to fit their theme

lunar kayak
#

heck i might even bet they cost more

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theme lel

crimson scroll
#

yes, that's normal

lunar kayak
#

functionality > looks.

crimson scroll
#

i agree, but not for everyone

lunar kayak
#

fair

crimson scroll
#

so don't try to force it on people

lunar kayak
#

yeah well..

crimson scroll
#

or act like your opinion is the best

lunar kayak
#

well the comments don't add much else than "hurr durr corsair bad arctic P12s gud".

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so expect such answers.

crimson scroll
#

so you're stooping to their level

lunar kayak
#

you got me there

#

anyway

#

i've been wanting to buy a mini PC

#

as small as it gets with renoir

#

that stuff is expensive for me

crimson scroll
#

anyways, as for objective testing

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p12 wins

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corsair is near the bottom

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testing done by Optimum Tech

lunar kayak
#

those are the expensive stuff tho

#

i know how good P12s are

crimson scroll
#

and?

#

are you saying corsair's cheap stuff is better?

lunar kayak
#

i've used them on my arctic liquid freezer II 360

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they are amazing as far as noise / thermals go

crimson scroll
#

the graph is in response to your "hurr durr corsair bad" comment

lunar kayak
#

i mean corsair made a boatload of fans over the years

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you can't just say corsair is all bad and arctic is all good

crimson scroll
#

sure

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but i think you like arguing for the sake of arguing

lunar kayak
#

i also had some.. sort of useless products from arctic in past

#

eh

crimson scroll
#

never really seen you pull up a graph or anything to justify

lunar kayak
#

i think my point is clear

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neither corsair nor arctic is just "suck or good".

crimson scroll
#

it's really not when you have to backtrack so much whenever we argue

static pecan
#

So from reading through most of this whole conversation....this entire thing is completely pointless lmao

lunar kayak
#

literally a corsair fan from 2012 out of a H100 could sit down any PC and work just fine

crimson scroll
#

the conversation is misleading

lunar kayak
#

you're arguing that the expensive RGB stuff is bad

#

so just say that.

crimson scroll
#

Donsta is wrong, Johnny is wrong, Noah is wrong, Rafee is wrong

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i'm not arguing expensive rgb is bad

static pecan
#

Fans are fans, and people can buy whichever ones they want for whatever needs they have. That's literally it

lunar kayak
#

you are wrong too then

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kek

crimson scroll
#

where did i say that

lunar kayak
#

yeah

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Alan got it right, finally

crimson scroll
#

thats...literally what i said earlier

#

please point out where i said expensive rgb is bad

lunar kayak
#

yeah i think you might have been trying to say that

#

the other dude commented on that

crimson scroll
#

point out where i was trying to say it

lunar kayak
#

sorry, has been a rough day

#

alan is correct

crimson scroll
static pecan
#

That's pretty much what @crimson scroll was already saying earlier. And like he also said, seems like you just like arguing for the sake of arguing, which is also dumb

crimson scroll
#

yikes dude

lunar kayak
#

well i just don't prefer uphere

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that's my own take

crimson scroll
#

you're saying uphere isn't an "actual fan"

lunar kayak
#

it's a cheap fan in my book

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and it looks lame

#

that's just my point.

static pecan
#

Out of all the extremely dumb and pointless arguments that have gone on in this chat, this has to be one of the dumbest

crimson scroll
#

that goes against what Alan said, which is what you say you agree with

lunar kayak
#

lol yeah

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you're right

stuck bluff
#

Honestly, it's all personal choice and preference and arguing about it is pointless, surely it's better to agree to disagree and walk away?

lunar kayak
#

yeh

stuck bluff
#

Speaking of PC stuff, I've got a liquid cooler on my CPU all in one unit, Is there anything I need to do to clean/maintain it?

crimson scroll
#

unlikely

#

there are few aios out there that allow you to refill the loop without taking it all apart

#

all liquid coolers will eventually have the liquid inside permeate the tubing, it's just a matter of how quickly

#

like a tower cooler you still need to repaste every so often but the internals i'd leave as is

#

if you're comfortable you can disassemble it to refill it. how long have you had it

stuck bluff
#

I think a year and a bit?

crimson scroll
#

it's probably fine then, just repaste if it's been a while

stuck bluff
#

Coolio ta very much :)

crimson scroll
#

np

lunar kayak
#

i'm actually against uphere just for the sake of their fans being $1-5 and RGB and transparent

#

this is just my own opinion

#

they remind me of old school fans that were.. uhm, not quite like the fans of today

#

but really even back then there were some nice fans like nanoxia, they were promoting those to be water proof, even

#

so it's an endless journey tbh.

craggy sparrow
#

Damn

vivid glacier
#

Wait where it go its for my pc haha

idle bridge
lunar kayak
#

RGB is unrelated to performance tho lol

#

i actually prefer no RGB on any of my stuff

#

i got your point

#

you mean, with more expensive parts, you can also opt for RGB

#

for me, computer lights should be there for functionality. such as the function light on the back of my Intel 400gb 750-E PCI-E drive.

pastel nymph
#

hey, anyone know a good way to monitor cpu temps besides on the oled screen?

devout wolf
#

hwinfo64

#

or msi afterburner overlay

pastel nymph
#

aight, thanks

lunar kayak
#

AIDA64

#

HWmonitor should work as well

median rivet
#

When you find a local store that's got 2 3090s in stock and 2 3060tis and you die a bit inside because theres no 3080w

#

Picking up that 3080 for RRP is a dream at the moment

lunar kayak
#

3060 Ti for life

#

flight sim is the only problem kappaberia

median rivet
#

Man I don't know - I've got a 9900k so pairing it with a 3080 would work quite well

lunar kayak
#

9900k..

#

you totally want that 5900X.

#

downside up

median rivet
#

Nah - I'm happy with the 9900k atm lol

lunar kayak
#

lol

median rivet
#

The dude in the shop was like "No 3080s, but this 3090 though"

#

And then was like "What cpu you got"

#

Then he just kinda smiled and said do it

lunar kayak
#

my last intels were 7900X and uhm.. yeah, that's it

#

totally a space heater

#

good stuff tho.

median rivet
#

It's an Aorus Xtreme 3090 that they're selling for £1890

lunar kayak
#

lol at price

#

just grab that 3060 Ti

#

all you'll ever need for the next 2 years or so, bet.

#

except for flight sim.. maybe

median rivet
#

It's the fact that I was even tempted to in the first place that's got me worried for my sanity

idle bridge
#

Cyberpunk is getting more and more stable tho*

median rivet
#

More stable *TM

idle bridge
#

Not saying it is stable compared to other games, it is more stable compared to the early releases

prime thicket
#

it's not really a pc question but does anyone know a good but affordable tv that is also decent for gaming?

crimson scroll
#

i figure right now you're not going to get great input lag unless it's a tv specifically marketed towards gaming, which is gonna drive the price up

prime thicket
#

hmmm

#

any suggestions anyway?

#

some dude in a different discord suggested a tv and it was some like £1.4k 4k tv

crimson scroll
#

TCL has a 4k 60hz/1440p 120hz display for $750

prime thicket
#

do you have a model name?

crimson scroll
#

55R635

prime thicket
#

thanks :)

crimson scroll
#

there's also a hisense for around $530, 4k 60hz only though

#

i don't really know much about gaming tvs so look at some reviews

idle bridge
#

Could only imagine he would use it for couch gaming with a console

prime thicket
#

Nah gonna connect it to my pc and put it at the end of my bed ;)

idle bridge
#

ah ok, bed gaming then

prime thicket
#

yeap

idle bridge
#

What r ur pc specs?

prime thicket
#

Ryzen 7 5800X,
Gigabyte Gaming OC 3080,
Corsair Dominator 32GB (2x16) 3200Mhz

#

Samsung 980 Pro

idle bridge
#

Nice

prime thicket
#

then some HDD I can't remember which 😂

idle bridge
#

Wow, that SSD tho, only difference it will make is load time xd

prime thicket
#

Yeah, only gonna use it for AAA games that I regularly play otherwise they're going onto bulk storage

idle bridge
#

What CAS latency are your RAM sticks

#

I'll assume it's CL16

prime thicket
#

Idk what that is 😬

idle bridge
#

Basically delay between a request of INFO, and it delivering it to the CPU

#

Do you overclock your ram to 3200, or keep it at stock?

prime thicket
#

CL16 apparently

#

^ Not sure yet, my pc isn't actually operational as of yet

idle bridge
#

Damn

#

What parts do u have rn?

prime thicket
#

All of it

#

Just no post

#

May need a BIOS update

idle bridge
#

RIP

#

Any error code on MOBO?

prime thicket
#

nope

#

my I don't see any LED for it

#

and theres no beeps

idle bridge
#

hmm

#

Does any lights turn on in the computer?

prime thicket
#

The RAM and GPU, the AIO screen turns on then off and same with mobo RGB

#

i have a feeling the mobo may be broken though as my power button only turns the pc on and not off

idle bridge
#

You should try updating the BIOS

prime thicket
#

Yeah I will do

#

Pain though cause I've gotta take it all apart

idle bridge
#

Doesn't it have some sort of Q-flash or Bios flash button?

prime thicket
#

yeah

#

people suggest unplugging everything before doing it though

idle bridge
#

Ah yeah ofc

#

gtg

prime thicket
#

Alright have a good one

idle bridge
#

10q

sharp gazelle
#

Will an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 be able to handle an ASUS GeForce RTX 3070?

crimson scroll
#

sure

stoic marten
tall cove
#

he lives here rent free

crimson scroll
#

don't worry, i'll terrorize this place less often once the semester starts back up

calm forge
#

😌

lunar kayak
#

i'm running my 3600 with a 1080 Ti rn, rocks warzone 1 hour straight easily

#

it's a great mid range CPU, i just left it on PBO and it's boosting to 4.2 and above

bold parrot
#

Should I get the new 3060 once it comes out or should I wait until the 3070 comes back in stock?!?

lunar kayak
#

why not 3060 Ti?

idle bridge
#

3090 < 3080 > 3070 > 3060 ti Cause 3090 is hella overpriced, 3080 because it is so good value, better core and 2 gigs of twice as fast ram compared to 3070, the 3070 and 3060 ti are kinda mid rangers, we only need some low ends, but they may not come for while, because they would be spreading their stock of GPUs even thinner.

lunar kayak
#

i don't see the 3060 Ti as a "mid ranger"

#

more like mid TO high end

#

or even high end depending where you live

idle bridge
#

Doesn't matter if you can't buy one

#

🤷‍♂️

lunar kayak
#

yeah..

#

i don't need one tbf, i got a duke 2080 in my other PC

#

but a more efficient and a tiny bit faster solution would be better

#

and to be even more honest, it would be for flight sim only

idle bridge
#

yep

median rivet
#

I'm able to buy both a 3090 and 60ti (;

#

Local store to me has 2 of each in stock, the 3090 however is the Aorus Xtreme, so is 1.9k rip

idle bridge
#

rip

#

400 dollars more than MSRP

#

(in the us)

median rivet
#

That's RRP here

idle bridge
#

MSRP and RRP means almost the same

#

manufacturer's suggested retail price and Recommended Retail Price

lunar kayak
#

look card then laul

prime thicket
#

Does anyone know of a monitor that is comparable to the Samsung Odyssey G9 but takes up less desk space? I would have pretty much no room if I got the G9 but I still want a 49 inch, maybe with a 1800R curve instead of 1000R?

sharp gazelle
#

Any recommendations for a second monitor to get?

crimson scroll
#

depends on what you need a second monitor for

#

and your budget

lunar kayak
#

that G9 49 is like the ballsiest of almost all monitors

#

i wanted one while they were giving a $50-75 coupon on other sammy products.. or something

#

well so be it, you're blowing a huge ol' full grand on a 49 inch super ultrawide monitor..

prime thicket
#

may look at the samsung crg9 instead

crimson scroll
#

AG493UCX is same resolution, 120hz, 1800r

prime thicket
#

I'm comparing the CRG9 and that AG49 one now

lunar kayak
#

why not just get a 38 incher?

prime thicket
#

CRG9 appears to have a slightly higher max brightness and slightly higher adobe colour coverage

lunar kayak
#

49 is just massive IMHO

prime thicket
#

Meh

#

I just want something bigger than I currently have

lunar kayak
#

CRG9 is worse than the G9, it's basically the G9's older revision

#

what do you currently got?

prime thicket
#

34inch isn't great for split screen

#

I know the CRG9 is worse but I cannot physically fit the G9 on my desk ysad

lunar kayak
#

grab a 38, i say

#

even the 75 Hz ones are quite amazing

prime thicket
#

I'd want something more than 75hz

lunar kayak
#

low input lag, solid response, pretty aggressively nice curve

prime thicket
#

Especially since I just got a new pc

lunar kayak
#

i tried the 34 - 75 Hz from LG

#

34UC98

#

and i'll be honest with you, that was totally an amazing panel

#

i loved it even more than my current PG348Q

#

the curve is pretty aggressive, fits right to the bill. great for rainbow 6 or any other such shooter.

prime thicket
#

Main thing that is bringing me into the CRG9 is its still 120Mhz as well as being an ultrawide

lunar kayak
#

there are 38 inch high HZ LG models too

#

ultragear, be prepared to blow that grand tho.

prime thicket
#

am I just blind

#

I don't see any 38 inch

#

nvm I found 2

lunar kayak
#

yeah, two models, one FS, other g-sync

prime thicket
#

ok ones 144hz

lunar kayak
#

it's capable of 165 overdriven as well.

#

but prolly works worse then

prime thicket
#

tbh one of the bigger appeals of a 49 inch to me is the fact that its pretty much 2x27" monitors

#

and I always have split screen

lunar kayak
#

i was in front of the CRG9 lots of times down the mediamarkt

#

it's just.. too big IMO

#

not sure how one would manage scaling

prime thicket
#

I would test sitting in front of monitors but that's not really possible atm

lunar kayak
#

yeah i was standing upright and it was right looking to my face

#

and i was like.. this thing is huge

prime thicket
#

;)

lunar kayak
#

my mom says 34 inchers are the best

prime thicket
#

Eh

lunar kayak
#

makes sense to me, since i sit close to my monitor

prime thicket
#

I wanan go bigger tan my 34"

lunar kayak
#

each to their own tho, i'd guess

prime thicket
#

my windows are pretty much square rn cause split screen

lunar kayak
#

i'd just go 38 and keep the 34 for an another PC

prime thicket
#

well the issue is

#

my 34" is an all in one pc

#

so

lunar kayak
#

grab that ultragear and stick it to a better, gaming PC 🙂

#

anyways it's gotten pretty late

#

and i sleep early

prime thicket
#

😂 I wish I did

lunar kayak
#

ima call it a day

merry dew
#

Heya. Looking for a 1500€ eur gaming pc build, pretty much no other use case. Aside from remote schooling ;D (I live in finland and ordering abroad is a no-go due to our shitty postal services, it affects other couriers aswell sadly :c)

#

I have all the peripherals ready, I only need the pc.

sharp gazelle
#

Can you get more than 144 fps if you have a 144 hz monitor

crimson scroll
#

yes

tawny blaze
#

my friend sent me this

#

i feel so uncomfortable

idle bridge
#

oh no

tawny blaze
#

the thermal paste looks like food spaghetti

idle bridge
#

Ngl would watch satisfying videos with tech

tawny blaze
#

is this satisfying

idle bridge
#

Like just an infinite row of RGB ram sticks getting clicked in and lighting up

tawny blaze
#

an entire bottle of thermal paste thrown onto your cpu

#

ah

sharp gazelle
#

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (CPU)
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT (GPU)
ASRock B550 Pro 4 (Mobo) which one would you upgrade first? I’m looking to keep high FPS on Cold War while streaming

idle bridge
#

GPU

sharp gazelle
#

What do you recommend?

idle bridge
#

What's your budget?

sharp gazelle
#

I’m open to anything really but would prefer something reasonable

#

Also what would you recommend for a cpu if I was to upgrade that too

idle bridge
#

Probably a 5600x or a 10th gen i7

#

Both have pretty good gaming performance, but considering you have a B550 I would probably go with a 5600x, maybe a 5800x if you have the money

#

5800x is only really if you are expecting to game and stream at the same time, while running some background tasks

sharp gazelle
#

What would suggest for a gpu then?

idle bridge
#

Basically anything you can get of either the new AMD 6000 series or the RTX 30 series

#

It of course depends on your budget

#

Upgrading CPU and or GPU might require you to upgrade your PSU too

#

It all of course depends on your budget

#

I also want to say that the 3070 is pretty good value, but the 3080 has even better value, it has a better core and the memory is twice as fast

#

The price points between AMD and Nvidia have about equal performance, but Nvidia has more features such as DLSS 2.0

#

And the ray tracing is also better on Nvidia gpu's

sharp gazelle
#

I have 800w so I think I’m good with PSU right?

idle bridge
#

You should be good to go on power

sharp gazelle
#

Okay cool thank you I appreciate that

robust hamlet
#

Ayo can someone tell me a 500 good build I have a low budget:(

lunar kayak
#

U.S?

#

gaming is no priority anyway, you could do that then add some fancy card later on.

crimson scroll
vivid glacier
#

only 40 damm

frigid phoenix
lunar kayak
#

3600 to 5600X is no massive upgrade tho, 5800X might make more sense, at least you get 2 more cores

#

otherwise you're just upgrading from a 6 core to a better 6 core for the sake of upgrading.

#

3060 Ti would be a leap ahead of the 5700 XT, but without knowing resolution, i wouldn't just say buy this or buy that

#

mobo is good.

#

you might grab a 3070 but it's expensive and might be overkill. the post needs to include more details.

idle bridge
#

I already explained that earlier, tho with prices inflated rn you should honestly just wait a bit

lunar kayak
#

that and the unavailability blues

#

i'd say if he's already fine, he should be fine with the radeon overlay stuff

#

or just reduce streaming quality 🤷

idle bridge
#

true

#

I am saying if I had the choice between current gen Nvidia and Radeon, I would go Nvidia

#

I am not a shill, the performance is about the same, Nvidia just has more or better features

lunar kayak
#

yeah no IMHO

#

the nvidia ones are more efficient

#

they're also stronger for the money

#

i like the AMD adrenalin driver set, it's way more boutique than nvidia's 20 year old lagging garbage panel.

idle bridge
#

I use adrenalin, much better than Nvidias software

lunar kayak
#

yup

idle bridge
#

But usually AIB partners got their own software

lunar kayak
#

yeah but that stuff is for other things

idle bridge
#

I know

#

Fan speed and RGB usually

#

Sometimes boost clock

lunar kayak
#

like you buy an EVGA for the 10 sensor overkill sensor-based temp readout, out of precision X

idle bridge
#

Lmao 10 sensors?

lunar kayak
#

about that much

#

i had their 1080 Ti ICX or whatever

#

you know, that huge 3 fan thing.

#

5-10 sensors IIRC

idle bridge
#

You should only need a few, like one in the hotspot of the core, one on the outside ish of the core, and a few on the VRM

lunar kayak
#

i believe that card was one of the most on that stuff.

idle bridge
#

Bruh

lunar kayak
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yeah ik

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it was a way overkill GPU

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still is.. the size and the weight alone

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FTW3.

idle bridge
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Like, the 1080 TI is still an ok card, you can still use it for games, but still, why so overkill? It's ridiculous

lunar kayak
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yeah i don't look at such cards anymore

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the best GPU i got is a 2080 duke

idle bridge
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My dad has worked in tech for a long time, and so we have a LOT of pc parts

lunar kayak
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i bought a lot of stuff myself as well

idle bridge
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On one shelf we have like 2-3 different (old) graphics card, the only one I can remember is the 1030

lunar kayak
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i got like 5-10 ryzen boards

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most laying around

idle bridge
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Nice

lunar kayak
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all good stuff too, yep

idle bridge
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He also has a lot of things he don't even know what to use for

lunar kayak
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anyways i gotta head out for a bit

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RL work

idle bridge
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see ya

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Ok I just remember some of the servers he have. He has like four IBM system x3650 M4, pretty sure they're the 7915

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Cheapest I can find is one for about 3,3 usd, jesus christ

toxic cedar
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hey guys need help. is the rx5600xt good? heard there were issues in the past?

lunar kayak
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it's a good card, 5700 XT had more of the share of those issues as it was the first batch

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drivers should be well stable now.

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it's a card i'd actually use down my secondary PCs

toxic cedar
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my 1660 ventus super xs is busted. ive been given the option to either switch to a super aero itx or an 5700xt. does the rx5700xt sounds like better option right?

lunar kayak
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meh, just grab the 5600 XT for cheaper

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you're doing 1080p right?

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if you rock 1440p, then 5700 XT

craggy sparrow
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There’s not much of a difference between the 5600x and xt is there?

toxic cedar
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oh damn i made a typo. they are offering me a 5600xt

lunar kayak
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i'd take it

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it's a great card

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better than the 1660 actually.

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right up there with a 2060 almost

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or equal.

craggy sparrow
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Ohhhhh graphics I’m dumb

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Yeah it’s just below a 2060 I’d say

lunar kayak
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na your warranty is just con-re-fused 🙂

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yup, it's very close to the 2060 in performance

toxic cedar
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id take the 5600xt? sounds great. i just hope its compatible to my gsync and freesync monitors 😦

lunar kayak
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it'll do FS but no g-sync

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as far as i'm aware.

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if you want g-sync, you gotta pay for the nvidia

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correct me if i'm wrong

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things might change but for now, that is still the case.. and looks like will be in the closer future as well

toxic cedar
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well that sucks. but that is really good to know bro so I thank you for that!

lunar kayak
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no probs

sacred crescent
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its my dream to have a 1030 ti

lunar kayak
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same here

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it's the ultimate mom or dad PC card

sacred crescent
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hehehe

dense turret
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im not sure why the GT 1010 exists

lunar kayak
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more like a 6800 GT 😄

cloud ermine
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Hey, y'all, would you recommend a Z270-A?

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Asus prime

lunar kayak
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that's an old board, what for?

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7700K?

cloud ermine
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I7 6700

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Lmao

crimson scroll
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i'd go with a B series board then

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wouldn't be that worthwhile imo to go from a 6700 to a 6700k or 7700k

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your next upgrade should probably be off that chipset and generation entirely

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so you won't need the overclocking capabilities of the Z chipsets

cloud ermine
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Yeah, ideally. But for a middle-ish ground and a budget of $140 I just need a board. If you have recommendations let me know, please.

crimson scroll
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i don't know much about intel boards, sorry

cloud ermine
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No problem.

lunar kayak
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just ditch the idea all together and go with a new zen platform.

wind minnow
cloud ermine
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I'm just getting it, I'll upgrade when I can. I got free parts, I just need a board. So eff it

lunar kayak
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yeah then, fair enough.

crimson scroll
static pecan
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Lmao imagine thinking you can buy a 3080 for $150

crimson scroll
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also that company sells a bunch of supplements and food/household related stuff

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seems like the classic amazon scam

static pecan
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No...no it can't be! Why would some try to...scam me! 😩

real jewel
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scamming? whats that? last I heard no one ever lies

dense turret
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ah yes, 3080 nearly the price of a 3090, above it when you include shipping

crimson scroll
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not really honestly

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new msrp is above 1500 for a 3090 in the us

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but yes, the price is stupid

agile iris
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Idk if this belongs here, but I get a new pc soon

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Z170a, 32gb ripjaws, 2070s and Intel i7-6700K in a fractal design define r5 case

crimson scroll
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cool

craggy sparrow
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Nice

crimson scroll
agile iris
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I would have gotten other things, but I had barely any money and my dad is getting a new pc, so he is giving me his one (apart from the nvme and hdd)

crimson scroll
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free > not free

craggy sparrow
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Yes

jade rapids
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first come first serve would be better, they really just need to add a captcha and a purchase limit so scalper bots can't buy things out

static pecan
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Better than what they were doing at least, which was nothing

crimson scroll
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this isn't better because they still combo stuff iirc

static pecan
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If people wanna waste their money that's their own problem. I literally do not care lol. At least now if you want to buy something and don't care about it being a combo, you at least have a better chance than having to refresh a web page 30 times in 2 seconds and race against 1000 other people at the same time

crimson scroll
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you can overload the number of requests with a bot this way too

static pecan
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Thanks, I was exaggerating. The bottom line is at least Newegg is doing something for people who just want to buy a card. Better than them just making a tweet about a restock where only one or maybe two cards will show up for five seconds before disappearing again

bold parrot
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Whats a decent monitor

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For 60hz?

crimson scroll
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depends on what you're doing with it and what resolution

bold parrot
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And it’s just got console

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For*

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1920 * 1080

crimson scroll
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benQ gw2283 is $100, IPS

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no freesync or gsync and comes with a vga cable though

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apparently it overclocks to 75hz fairly well

bold parrot
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Oh okay thanks

cerulean drift
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Hi everyone, i am new to the server. I am looking far a pc for under 1500$ cause rn I’m playing on an old xbox. I don’t have any experience in building one. I was looking for a prebuilt because I don’t think i can manage to build my own pc. Any suggestions?

crimson scroll
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well, how much time do you have to invest into learning to build a pc