#💻-building-a-pc | SteelSeries | Page 84

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:02 AM

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That's probably the best solution, but if you did order the parts individually you could try and fine like a GT 1030 or some other inexpensive GPU from eBay or other resellers you could at least use the PC if you already had the parts

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My 5900X and everything else was just sitting in boxes in my closet for about a month because I was trying to get a GPU

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 1:03 AM

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rip

jade rapids Dec 31, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I used a GTX 980 at work, eventually brought that computer home and it was just fine for 1080P gaming

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Lucked out and checked Newegg when they happened to have a Red Devil 5700XT in stock so I snagged it

whole depot Dec 31, 2020, 1:04 AM

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So the build is good to go ahead with then? nothing I don't need or should change?

jade rapids Dec 31, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Yeah, think so

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Looks good for a prebuilt lol

whole depot Dec 31, 2020, 1:06 AM

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wdym prebuilt?

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Are you ordering all these parts and assembling the computer yourself?

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Or is someone or a company assembling it and shipping it to you?

whole depot Dec 31, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Nah igy theyll assemble

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Then that's what a prebuilt is

whole depot Dec 31, 2020, 1:08 AM

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cool cheers guys

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:08 AM

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👌

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Tbh assemblying a computer is just expensive, very expensive lego

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Yeah it's not hard, just tedious, and also scary at first because you don't want to break anything lol

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Lmao yep

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Just read the manual

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Tbh with this last build I just did I solved my problems faster by just looking at connectors and stuff because all the manuals I had sucked 😂

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 1:11 AM

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lmao

whole depot Dec 31, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Yeh I've never assembled a PC just upgraded

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Indian guy on youtube has entered the chat

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Dude be quiet! manuals are absolutely the worst things to ever exist. They just give you a black and white picture with a few pieces highlighted and expect you to figure out the rest lmao

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 1:12 AM

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lol

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gtg now

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Damn Germans!

jade rapids Dec 31, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Germans? It's the Ikea guys that came up with that crap

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the Manuals, that is

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Honestly they ought to take some clues from the Lego guys, ngl

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Plz

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I was putting together Collectors Edition sets when I was like 8 because the instructions were actually good just make PC hardware manuals grown up LEGO instructions

jade rapids Dec 31, 2020, 1:16 AM

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yeah really

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 1:34 AM

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you're missing one thing

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lego is completely wholly owned

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pc components come from a bunch of different manufacturers

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sure, stuff is standardized

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but you still get different mounting mechanisms, different locations of sata ports, etc.

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not to say better manuals shouldn't exist, it's just not that easy

vivid glacier Dec 31, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I need a 3080 ASAP

jade rapids Dec 31, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Imma go for a 3090 or somethin like that once I can afford a machine to put one in, but by then the 40 series will probably be out. lol

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 3:33 AM

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why a 3090

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do you need the vram for something?

heavy kindle Dec 31, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Hey guys anybody know how we can check our PSU power?

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Without the box

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 10:13 AM

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look at the psu

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should have a sticker on one side

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:49 AM

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jade rapids Imma go for a 3090 or somethin like that once I can afford a machine to put one ...

You should wait until they laucnh the 3080 TI, it's speculated to have pretty much the same performance, you may have to overclock just a tiny bit, cause the boost clock is a tiny bit lower than the 3090 on the FE

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The 3080 TI is speculated to be priced at around 1000 USD, so you basically get 3090 performance for 50% less

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You might also want to wait until 4080 launches, cause then stock will be normal for the 3080

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kek

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:51 AM

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is there a ryzen 5 5600 coming out apparetnly it is cheaper and has the same kinda specs with the 5600x

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 11:51 AM

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probably

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wafer supply sucks right now so segmenting further isn't great

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:52 AM

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ahhh ok when will the 40 series launch?

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 11:52 AM

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but they'll probably come out with a non x variant

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:52 AM

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yeah they said next month?

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:52 AM

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ryzen 5 5600 is speculated to come out Q1 2021

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:52 AM

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yeah

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:52 AM

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At somewhere around 220 dollars

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:53 AM

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when will the 40 series launch

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tho cause i cant get the 30 series anywhere

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Likely in 2021

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:53 AM

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yeah when in 2021

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KEK

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Can't remember what quarter

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:53 AM

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do they release a new series every year?

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:54 AM

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NO

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:54 AM

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but they kinda just release the 30 series

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:54 AM

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yep

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there usually goes a few years between new series

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:55 AM

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so if the 40 series comes out i hope the 30 series are in stock >.<

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:55 AM

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there ofc are released new cards as time goes on, it usually starts with either normal or TI, then there either become the TI or normal which wasn't released earlier, and then a bit later super

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 11:56 AM

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rough jacinth so if the 40 series comes out i hope the 30 series are in stock >.<

They expect stock to improce in 2021

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 11:56 AM

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dat is good then

gilded frost Dec 31, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Yeah not going to happen in 2021. From a business stand point you want to milk the current “best of the best” until the games acrually demand a better gpu

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The 3080 and 3090 can run games at 1440/4k at 60fps or more depending on settings

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 12:03 PM

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4K is a lot

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:03 PM

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But not the 8k they advertised for the 3090

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:03 PM

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isn't the 1660ti the only other Ti card to come out before the normal

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and that was only a month

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:03 PM

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I think so, lol

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 12:04 PM

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What can the 3060 Ti do then?

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Hmm

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:04 PM

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3060ti is a bit better than the 1080ti

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:04 PM

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so xx60 ti usually comes out before the normal

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:05 PM

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i don't know why they stuck with the Ti naming convention for the 3060ti

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but not super

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Because super is an "Improved" version of the regular

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and TI literally stands for titanium

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 12:05 PM

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KEK

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:05 PM

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...and?

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:06 PM

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"tHat MeANs iTS sTRonG"

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:06 PM

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1080ti came a year after 1080, same with 1070ti

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super also means better

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:06 PM

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yep

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:06 PM

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i'm sure they did market research but they mean the same thing...pretty sure super would sell better

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Yep

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Same with GPU's with gaming or gamer in the name

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Or gaming related brand such as Asus rog

sturdy hawk Dec 31, 2020, 12:07 PM

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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gbt-rtx3080-20gb-3060-12gb

Tom's Hardware

Gigabyte Confirms Avalanche of 20GB Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti, 12 GB RTX 3...

Not for today, but for tomorrow

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might wanna hold on to those pc builds if u lookin for a gpu

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:08 PM

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I, already know that bro

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:08 PM

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nobody who's just gaming should care about 20gb vram right now

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if you're holding onto a card for a long time, you're probably buying more budget anyways

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most people who spring for the flagship card immediately are switching their card up every year or so

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:08 PM

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I want to see how well it does, but won't buy from scalpers

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:09 PM

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so why care about "futureproofing" vram

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especially since you'll be dropping to lower resolutions as the card can't keep up

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:09 PM

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I also always wait for third party reviews

prime thicket Dec 31, 2020, 12:09 PM

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I already have my 3080 so idm about the 3080ti 😂

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:09 PM

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crimson scroll especially since you'll be dropping to lower resolutions as the card can't keep ...

DLSS has entered the chat

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DLSS 2.0 is so much better than 1.0

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:10 PM

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yeah and dlss uses less vram

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because you're at a lower res....

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Yep

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:10 PM

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so even more reason you wouldn't need that much vram

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:11 PM

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The difference between 3090 and 3080 is minimal

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:11 PM

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in gaming, yes

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Only difference is that 3080 is basically a cut down version (For gaming)

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:11 PM

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nvidia should have marketed the 3090 as a creator card

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Yep

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3090 jumps ahead in things such as fluid simulations, and 4k / 8k gaming

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:12 PM

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i mean

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8k gaming is not a thing

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:12 PM

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At lower resolutions it's mostly CPU bound, like 1080p and a bit at 1440p

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:12 PM

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crimson scroll 8k gaming is not a thing

Only doom can do that, so yeah

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:12 PM

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idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:12 PM

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yep

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:13 PM

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and at 4k it doesn't jump ahead by almost anything

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:13 PM

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True

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:13 PM

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idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:13 PM

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They should just as you said, probably have tried selling it as a creator card

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 12:13 PM

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7 to 12 fps is garbage

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when you are paying a $800+ difference

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 12:14 PM

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yep

mellow ferry Dec 31, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Anyone got a part picker list for around $1000

vague pine Dec 31, 2020, 3:00 PM

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idle bridge Only doom can do that, so yeah

mkbhd made a whole video about using a 3090 and gaming at 8k in forza horizon 4 i think but you can see the video for yourself

vague pine Dec 31, 2020, 3:01 PM

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mellow ferry Anyone got a part picker list for around $1000

3060ti and r5 3600

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and don't get intel because AMD is the future

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 3:02 PM

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yeah im pairing it with a 3060ti but with a r5 5600

vague pine Dec 31, 2020, 3:07 PM

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r5 5600x is 300 dollars i think that would make it outta budget but if you're waiting for the non - x version im not sure that makes it 100 dollars cheaper

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im not sure tho hah

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a

heavy kindle Dec 31, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Dang its so hard to actually look for your psu watts if your computer is under the table and have a hard time getting it

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Will it have much difference if in PSU power if i upgrade my 1050ti to 2060 super?

vague pine Dec 31, 2020, 3:21 PM

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heavy kindle Will it have much difference if in PSU power if i upgrade my 1050ti to 2060 supe...

what is the wattage of your current psu?

heavy kindle Dec 31, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Thats the thing @vague pine ...

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lemme try and check

vague pine Dec 31, 2020, 3:22 PM

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i have a 1050 right now

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not ti but

heavy kindle Dec 31, 2020, 3:23 PM

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rated is 350

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peak is 500

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is that gucci?

vague pine Dec 31, 2020, 3:24 PM

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uhh

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so

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i have a 450 watt psu and i've been told i should be good to even get a 3070 with a 450 watt psu

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but yours is rated 350

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and im not sure what you mean when you say "peak"

heavy kindle Dec 31, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Cause there's like 2 of them there

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Its says rated and peak

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I think it can go up to 500

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not sure tho

quartz dawn Dec 31, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Holup

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450w on a 370

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The card draws 225w alone and the rating isn't true wattage it's a max, so I'd recommend going with at LEAST a 650 on a 3070 for enough cushion for it to be safe. Too small PSU and you'll run into major issues and run the risk of browning out parts and then you're SOL@vague pine

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I'm currently running a 750w GD +

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 4:00 PM

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sFKBy4

System Builder

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anything i can make better/cheaper

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?

craggy sparrow Dec 31, 2020, 4:01 PM

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What’s your max budget?

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 4:05 PM

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like legit 1.21k

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Like that is what I kinda want already so if you help me make it better that would be great but keep the budget

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 6:53 PM

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rough jacinth https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sFKBy4

Why Trdent Z ram? do you just want the RGB or is on a special sale price wherever you're buying from?

The price difference between NVME and SATA drives is minimal these days so I would go with something like a 500GB WD SN550 instead of the 860 EVO for much faster boot times ad system responsiveness.

Do you really need the WiFi adapter for anything or do you not have access to a wired connection wherever your PC is located?

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 6:55 PM

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static pecan Why Trdent Z ram? do you just want the RGB or is on a special sale price whereve...

i wanted the RGB

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.<

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is there anything better for that with RGB?

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 6:57 PM

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For the current price of that G Skill kit that's pretty much the best

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 6:58 PM

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So the one i chose?

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Yee

rough jacinth Dec 31, 2020, 7:00 PM

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TY

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funny how two sticks cost £80

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OAHAHA

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 7:11 PM

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hyper 212 sucks

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cheap sleeve bearing fan, mounting is a nightmare and it doesn't even perform that well for the price anymore

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get an id cooling se-224-xt, gammaxx 400 v2 or arcitc freezer 33/34

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btw https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/YcTzK8/kingston-hyperx-fury-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-hx432c16fb3ak216

Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Ybyqqs
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/rpsmP6

Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

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b450-f is a meme of a board too

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especially being more expensive than the x470 gaming plus max

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which btw neither will support the cpu until q1 2021

vivid glacier Dec 31, 2020, 7:17 PM

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nice pc

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:35 PM

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hey can someone help me for a bit?

vivid glacier Dec 31, 2020, 8:37 PM

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whats up

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:37 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FkhgCz

System Builder

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can you tell me what to do better there

vivid glacier Dec 31, 2020, 8:41 PM

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its not a bad setup tbh

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:41 PM

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people told be it was overpriced

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but i'm not going to buy it on amazon

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Only thing I might do different is that if you can, you should go for an M.2 NVME drive instead of sata drive

heavy kindle Dec 31, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Can a 350 wat support 2060 super?

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:48 PM

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idle bridge Only thing I might do different is that if you can, you should go for an M.2 NVM...

is that better?

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:48 PM

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NVME drives are much faster, and can usually be found at the same pricepoint

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:49 PM

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okay thank you

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:49 PM

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static pecan Why Trdent Z ram? do you just want the RGB or is on a special sale price whereve...

@swift estuary

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Alan made a good message about it

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The ram is not for you

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just read the part about sata vs NVME

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:50 PM

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ya okay thank you so much

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:50 PM

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np 🙂

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Hmm

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You should just make a windows key yourself

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:51 PM

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yea i was thinking about that

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:52 PM

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swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:52 PM

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whats the better brand for mvme

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:53 PM

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It really depends on your price point and what you need it for

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 8:53 PM

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btw

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the cpu

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it's $350 more than it's supposed to be

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:53 PM

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yea i'm not going to buy it on amazon don't worry

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I would recommend trustable manufacturer, Western Digital, Samsung, Firecuda etc

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:54 PM

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thank you

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 8:54 PM

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either way 3600xt isn't worth it

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same price as 10600k/3700x/10700

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:54 PM

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tell me the better one

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for the same price

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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The XT series of CPUs was basically just AMD trying to milk every last cent out of Zen 2 before they released the new Zen 3 chips. Don't buy them

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If you want to stick with AMD, go with the 3700X like Rafee said

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Yep

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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okay thank you

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:57 PM

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3700x has two cores more

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 8:57 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9kdDmk

System Builder

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here

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switch the gpu to whatever you can find honestly

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the kraken z series is... just yikes

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the upmark from x series is the cost of a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:58 PM

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the CPU cooler looks pretty darn good

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360mm rad

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RGB etc

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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yea

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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not the best value but i chose it just for aesthetic

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looks closest to the nzxt x series

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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yep

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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devout wolf switch the gpu to whatever you can find honestly

whats the best gpu then same price range

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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well the 3080, if you can find one
or any 30 series gpu at this point. Even RDNA2 will work

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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i'm so bad at this i'm trying to help someone haha

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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swift estuary whats the best gpu then same price range

The 20 series are not really worth it

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Turing has terrible value but if you desperately need a gpu immediately - you can go for it i guess

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:01 PM

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devout wolf Turing has terrible value but if you desperately need a gpu immediately - you ca...

I was about to say the CPU has integrated graphics, then I saw the F

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:01 PM

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That's what I did. Snagged an RX 5000 series GPU while it was in stock and I'll upgrade to RX6000 in several months whenever they're widely available after all the hype has died down and stock issues have been sorted

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:01 PM

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idle bridge I was about to say the CPU has integrated graphics, then I saw the F

can go for the non-F tbh

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sometimes it's cheaper on 10th gen weirdly

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:01 PM

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lmao yep

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Maybe cause they produce more non-f variants?

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If you live near a micro center you might want to go there

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They usually have pretty competetive prices

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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no i don't sadly

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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damn

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Does anyone really live near a microcenter though 😂

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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no

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😩

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Cause I live in EU

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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F

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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idle bridge Cause I live in EU

same

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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F^2

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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F squared

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Yee

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The second power of F

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I have never quite understood Intel CPU marketing

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U for power saving, K for overclockable, F for no integrated graphics

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Meanwhile, over at AMD:

X goes faster

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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X for X-treme
XT for -XTREME

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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XTREMEly overpriced

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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lmao yes

static pecan Dec 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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XTREME prices

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Yep

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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idle bridge Maybe cause they produce more non-f variants?

eh no difference physically between F and non-F

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F is just normal with a disabled iGPU

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it's still there in the die

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Also, consistency between their GPUs, CPU', and CPUs with integrated graphics (Except when they went from 2000 to 4000 series)

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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devout wolf F is just normal with a disabled iGPU

I know

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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but who knows

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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So you're paying more to get less xd

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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prices weren't rational this year at all to begin with

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wh3Zqp

System Builder

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what about now?

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i'm so dumb about this haha

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Prices for everything from RAM to CPUs to GPUs have been a slip'n'slide

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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i'd pick a 10700k over a 3700x tbh

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beats it in gaming

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unless you need the cpu for multicore-heavy workloads

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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They might go for upgradeability

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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same upgrade path

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5th gen is the last on am4

swift estuary Dec 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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it's for gaming

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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11th gen will be the last on lga1200

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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true

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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swift estuary it's for gaming

go with the intel list, the trident z 3600cl18 is basically a 3200cl16 rgb kit at the price of 32gb non-rgb

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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tbh Intel have been pretty ok at staying at one socket these past few years, with their I cores

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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the 970 evo and sx8200 pro are pretty close in performance

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not like you'd need nvme in the first place for just gaming

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until DirectStorage becomes mainstream on PC

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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devout wolf not like you'd need nvme in the first place for just gaming

Eh, NVME is pretty snappy, and usually faster than SATA

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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idle bridge tbh Intel have been pretty ok at staying at one socket these past few years, wit...

it's always been 2 generations per socket

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it's always faster than sata

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but you see no difference in gaming

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except for loading times

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which for nvme vs sata ssd, isn't that much either

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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That's what I was talking about

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Price is roughly the same, and if they want to use it for something else at a point, it'll be pretty good there

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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that's true

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but i was comparing the sx8200 to the 970 evo anyway

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50% more cost for roughly the same speeds

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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oh

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I though you meant SATA vs NVME xd

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the thing about computer parts, after a point the premium cost just sky-rockets

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x570 mobos for AMD is a good example

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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yeah value starts to become less of a thing as you go higher up the tiers

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x570 has its place

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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yep

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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if you need the PCIe lanes and the IO, it's great

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otherwise you can get the same feature set and vrm on b550

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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I mean different x570 mobos compared to each other

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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unless you're comparing the absolute high ends

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:15 PM

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To be real, in most cases (Such as for gaming), You wont need more than one x16 slot

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You might install a capture card or wireless routing, but unless you are getting one of them Gen 4 PCIE multiple NVME drives you won't need it

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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well the 16 lanes for the gpu are already provided by the cpu

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gen4 works on b550 too

vivid glacier Dec 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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do u need 32gb of ram lol

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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No

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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not need

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Not in most cases

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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nice to have

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Yep

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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borderlands 3 can use over 16gb of ram

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same for stkp

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and you just have a ton of headroom and don't have to worry about ram

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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You should also prioritize two lane over one lane

devout wolf Dec 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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if you have too much; then use ramcache

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:18 PM

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To me, as of 2020, no game will need 32 gb of ram

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 9:18 PM

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If bl3 uses over 16gb its a mem leak

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No game really uses over 10gb

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It might allocate more if you have the capacity

idle bridge Dec 31, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Flight Sim 2020 😳

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 9:18 PM

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But it won't use it

vivid glacier Dec 31, 2020, 9:19 PM

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yeh thats what im thinking depends if your doing other things and gaming to use that much ramn at once

gilded frost Dec 31, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I've seen several games run over 10gb

crimson scroll Dec 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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modded maybe

frigid phoenix Jan 1, 2021, 3:02 AM

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I am pretty sure there are plenty of games that will use more if you have 32GB

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and less if you have 16GB

noble oak Jan 1, 2021, 3:03 AM

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ok first id like to state

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that

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im here for building-a-burger not building-a-pc

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someone give me a good burger sauce recipe and burger seasoning 😋

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Not the place

idle herald Jan 1, 2021, 3:18 AM

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opinions?

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static pecan Jan 1, 2021, 3:20 AM

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That's the fan setup I have in my 500DX. CPU stays at 70-75c under load with the front fans pushing air through my 360mm AIO and GPU stays 65-70c under load

idle herald Jan 1, 2021, 3:21 AM

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so ig guess its pretty good for a config

static pecan Jan 1, 2021, 3:21 AM

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Yeah it'll be fine

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 4:41 AM

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Yeah, you'll have higher cpu temps and lower gpu temps than if you switched the orientation on the rad fans

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Which is normal

frigid phoenix Jan 1, 2021, 7:31 AM

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does anyone actually have top fans on intake?

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Hot air goes up so that would only push it back down

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 7:32 AM

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i have one top fan on intake

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it's for ram since i'm on a 1.5v oc

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that's what my setup looks like

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anyways, hot air rising barely matters

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your fans are much more powerful than natural heat flow

noble oak Jan 1, 2021, 8:05 AM

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(Stella RGB Fan Bundle) this is the regular Sata connector I would plug into my PSU right? I can’t figure it out from the photo. unicorn

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crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 8:05 AM

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correct

noble oak Jan 1, 2021, 8:07 AM

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perfecto. thank you

prime thicket Jan 1, 2021, 2:07 PM

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ugh I love my PSU, none of the cables are labelled and I'm a noob

prime thicket Jan 1, 2021, 3:34 PM

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(some of them are but I'm still a noob and idk what to do with them)

heavy kindle Jan 1, 2021, 5:34 PM

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How important is it on picking a GPU brand?

narrow girder Jan 1, 2021, 5:37 PM

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As in a 3060 msi tuf or zotac

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Or nvidia vs amd

narrow girder Jan 1, 2021, 5:37 PM

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narrow girder As in a 3060 msi tuf or zotac

This dosent matter too much

whole depot Jan 1, 2021, 6:09 PM

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What's the best pcie capture card?

static pecan Jan 1, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Elgato and Avermedia are the only two brands I really know of for internal cards and between the two it honestly just comes down to which feature set you need more or like better because they're both fine

pulsar fossil Jan 1, 2021, 7:05 PM

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There's also Magewell, Yuan and Blackmagic

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They can be a lot more expensive of course but you get what you pay for :)

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Like the Blackmagic Decklink Quad HDMI might seem expensive at $550 but it's literally 4 capture cards in one that are all able to do 4k60 with HDR

heavy kindle Jan 1, 2021, 7:22 PM

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@narrow girder MSI Tuf or zotac stuff like that

static pecan Jan 1, 2021, 7:37 PM

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It's important to the extent that some cards from some brands are objectively worse than others in cooling and clock speeds but as far as the brand goes that's pretty irrelevant as long as the card you're looking at has the features you want at a decent price

devout wolf Jan 1, 2021, 7:59 PM

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heavy kindle How important is it on picking a GPU brand?

brands in pc hardware don't matter in general

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and given the current situation; you can't be picky either

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best to get whatever the hell you can find

noble oak Jan 1, 2021, 8:04 PM

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So is a gpu a must have?

devout wolf Jan 1, 2021, 8:05 PM

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well yes

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can't have display output otherwise

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well, for headless servers you don't

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and an igpu counts as a gpu

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just not a dedicated one

heavy kindle Jan 1, 2021, 8:44 PM

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So some gpu's are minis. Any difference on that?

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Worse cooling

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But obviously fit in smaller cases that large ones might not

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 8:59 PM

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wat is gpu

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Graphical processing unit

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:00 PM

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ok so it is graphci card?

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Yes

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:01 PM

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in my pefrsonal coomputear i have a geaforc 256

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is it good

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:02 PM

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I feel like you're trolling

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:02 PM

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no?

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ill send a pictu

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📎 images.png

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wait that notit

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ok nvom thta it

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is it good

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im can run minecraft

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on

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30 frame per second

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:03 PM

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you pulled that from google

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📎 unknown.png

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first two are identical

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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||alright keep this between me and you||

grim field Jan 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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gaming i see

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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also if you had a geforce 256, you'd know if it was good or not

grim field Jan 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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geforce 256 is really good for cyberpunk 2077 too

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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yea

grim field Jan 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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I'll give you one if u have an rtx 2080 to trade

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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k bet

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@crimson scroll what build you got

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:06 PM

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r5 2600, 1080ti, 2x8 3400cl16

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:06 PM

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ooo nice

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i got a

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:06 PM

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please don't

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:07 PM

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please dont what

crimson scroll Jan 1, 2021, 9:07 PM

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spam random letters and numbers, you know full well what you're doing

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:08 PM

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also remember sli?

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i dont

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also i didnt spam bruh

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wyssss

rough jacinth Jan 1, 2021, 9:09 PM

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idiot

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LOL

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:09 PM

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who

rough jacinth Jan 1, 2021, 9:10 PM

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u

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kek

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:10 PM

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idk a "u"

rough jacinth Jan 1, 2021, 9:10 PM

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ok im out

wintry flame Jan 1, 2021, 9:10 PM

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k

devout wolf Jan 1, 2021, 9:21 PM

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wintry flame im can run minecraft

you do realize the 256 can't even run opengl 4.4 required for minecraft?

craggy sparrow Jan 1, 2021, 10:02 PM

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did someone do an @ everyone?

devout wolf Jan 1, 2021, 10:04 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pulsar fossil Jan 1, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Someone tried

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But they can't

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I don't even think I can

static pecan Jan 1, 2021, 11:09 PM

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I think it's disabled server wide for anyone without the staff role

pulsar fossil Jan 1, 2021, 11:35 PM

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ye

noble oak Jan 2, 2021, 2:04 AM

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im so confused with Stella rn

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(This is the hub that comes with the Stella fans) it ofc comes with a sata cable, but to me it doesn’t look like I can plug in the sata side to this port on the hub, but then the other side of the sata cable that’s included looks like it would fit, so now I’m figuring out where I’m gonna plug in the sata side to provide power RIP

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static pecan Jan 2, 2021, 2:07 AM

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You plug the sata connector into the sata cable on your PSU

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AKA: The cable you have to plug drives into to supply them power

undone hatch Jan 2, 2021, 4:42 AM

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hai guys just sold My rtx 3070 and replace it with RTX 3080

gilded frost Jan 2, 2021, 5:14 AM

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Did you think about how that’s going to fit in your case?

idle bridge Jan 2, 2021, 10:32 AM

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undone hatch hai guys just sold My rtx 3070 and replace it with RTX 3080

So you scalped a card to afford a 3080?

gritty elk Jan 2, 2021, 11:02 AM

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undone hatch hai guys just sold My rtx 3070 and replace it with RTX 3080

Did you scalp the RTX 3070 so you can sell it to buy an RTX 3080 to keep?

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Why do you assume they scalped

rough jacinth Jan 2, 2021, 2:01 PM

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kek

undone hatch Jan 2, 2021, 2:38 PM

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idle bridge So you scalped a card to afford a 3080?

No....PLenty of 3070 & 3080 in my country....

gritty elk Jan 2, 2021, 3:46 PM

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crimson scroll Why do you assume they scalped

Because why would they buy the cheaper one then sell it to buy theore expensive one?

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 3:47 PM

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because...the more expensive one is more powerful???????

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i sold my 1080 to buy a 1080ti...

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are people not allowed to upgrade anymore

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 4:56 PM

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gritty elk Because why would they buy the cheaper one then sell it to buy theore expensive ...

People can always sell one gpu to cover part of the cost of the other

gritty elk Jan 2, 2021, 4:57 PM

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bold drum People can always sell one gpu to cover part of the cost of the other

I mean yes but it just seems sketchy yk?

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 4:57 PM

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...

vivid glacier Jan 2, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Vanadium

gritty elk Jan 2, 2021, 4:58 PM

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I didn't say he isn't allowed to upgrade

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 4:58 PM

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It doesn’t seem sketchy people sell their cards to buy new ones all the time

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 4:58 PM

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just because it's in the same generation doesn't mean he's scalping...

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this is one of the stupider takes i've seen, sorry

gritty elk Jan 2, 2021, 4:59 PM

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I'm saying they were released at about the same time, so why would he buy that one then sell it to buy the other one

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 4:59 PM

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decided the 3070 wasn't strong enough?

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Changed his mind maybe

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 4:59 PM

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this is a silly question

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Or maybe better prices?

gritty elk Jan 2, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Maybe he got a better price on the 3080 yes

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Exactly

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Probably not tho

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 5:00 PM

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also he said his region has a lot of availability

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so....unlikely he sold the 3070 for much of a profit

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Yeah

crimson scroll Jan 2, 2021, 5:01 PM

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you're making a big deal about something that's pure speculation

vivid glacier Jan 2, 2021, 5:17 PM

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mmm

rough jacinth Jan 2, 2021, 6:01 PM

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uh oh

vivid glacier Jan 2, 2021, 6:09 PM

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yeh

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Do any of you know if hdmi 2 has special features on my tv I heard it’s like for mobile devices and the such

devout wolf Jan 2, 2021, 7:50 PM

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mhl? That’s been around since forever

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Yeah idk which one is tho

gilded frost Jan 2, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Well 4K 60fps is it’s limit

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2.1 has 8k 60fps, 4k 120fps

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Some cables advertise 8k 120hz capabilities, doubt it.

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Remove all the FPS with HZ, it’s going to take a hefty price to get a computer that can run 4K 120 FPS ultra, or 8k 120fps high

bold drum Jan 2, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I meant like the ports on the tv not the type of hdmi

vivid glacier Jan 2, 2021, 8:55 PM

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optical port u mean ????

devout wolf Jan 2, 2021, 8:55 PM

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how is that related to hdmi 2 in any shape or form tho

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other than being an audio interface

civic apex Jan 2, 2021, 9:06 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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new gpu arrived

craggy sparrow Jan 2, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Nice

civic apex Jan 2, 2021, 9:08 PM

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yes

devout wolf Jan 2, 2021, 9:18 PM

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neato

idle bridge Jan 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Wait, I can't see what card it is?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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1060 3gb

idle bridge Jan 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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niceeee

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Is there a labeling?

idle bridge Jan 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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I don't think so

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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no, he mentioned his friend was giving it to him

idle bridge Jan 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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How nice of him, is the friend upgrading?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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yeah

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a 3070 iirc

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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Ah, I remember

idle bridge Jan 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

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nice

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Soe Good memory

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some*

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Need some help building

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Parts wise

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 12:54 AM

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https://sol.gfxile.net/dontask.html

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:11 AM

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does anyone know of a good monitor thats 1440p 120 or 144hz? (pls ping or dm me)

rugged tapir Jan 3, 2021, 1:21 AM

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snow epoch does anyone know of a good monitor thats 1440p 120 or 144hz? (pls ping or dm me)

What's your budget?

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 1:23 AM

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@vague fern Budget, What are you using the pc for, etc?

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@snow epoch https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824569005?item=N82E16824569005&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-gaming monitors-_-westinghouse-_-24569005&source=region

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:26 AM

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rugged tapir What's your budget?

not entirely sure yet but probably around $300-500 max

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also G-sync would be preferable

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and 21-27" too

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 1:29 AM

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gilded frost <@!538827324972597248> Budget, What are you using the pc for, etc?

I have a pc right now with a 670 in it and i have a 1080 144 monitor and I just wanna be able to play games reasonably and stream siege

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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https://www.google.com/shopping/product/17118644456336154545?q=144hz+1440p+g+sync+monitor&prds=epd:1155285929142266951,prmr:3,eto:1155285929142266951_1,rto:1,tpim:CP6TpdXt1L3zlgEQs5-5ndGIv4xfGPC53b4BIgNVU0Qo8Pb9_wUw9rrYOw&utm_medium=tu_prop&utm_content=eid-lsjeuxoeqt&utm_campaign=125181302 @snow epoch

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@vague fern Your budget?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I don’t know yet

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I don’t wanna spend too much

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And I’m Canadadian

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Oops

rugged tapir Jan 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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snow epoch not entirely sure yet but probably around $300-500 max

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gl63t-b-gaming-monitor

These are amazing, I have 3

LG USA

LG 27GL63T-B.AUS 27 Inch UltraGear™ Full HD IPS Gaming Monitor wit...

Get information on the LG 27GL63T-B.AUS 27 Inch UltraGear™ Full HD IPS Gaming Monitor with G-Sync® Compatibility (27GL63T-B). Find pictures, reviews, and tech specs.

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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But like under 1000 probably but idk if that’s possible

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But I could probably sell my current pc

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Onaca, I just put that in the chat

rugged tapir Jan 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Oh really

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I didn't check, sorry phaha

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 1:32 AM

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I'm not going to question the need for three 144hz 1440p monitor's either

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Yea wtf

rugged tapir Jan 3, 2021, 1:32 AM

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They're like 120 each, so doesn't really matter

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:33 AM

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do you know if there's a 1440p version?

rugged tapir Jan 3, 2021, 1:34 AM

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Those are like 400 bucks each

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 1:35 AM

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I just put it in the chat @snow epoch

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:35 AM

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this is what shows up

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vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 1:36 AM

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hype

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 1:36 AM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-ultragear-27-ips-led-qhd-freesync-and-g-sync-compatable-monitor-with-hdr-displayport-hdmi-black/6401809.p?skuId=6401809

Best Buy

LG UltraGear 27" IPS LED QHD FreeSync and G-SYNC Compatable Monitor...

Shop LG UltraGear 27" IPS LED QHD FreeSync and G-SYNC Compatable Monitor with HDR (DisplayPort, HDMI) Black at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee.

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:37 AM

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thanks this works

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 1:39 AM

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@snow epoch Been using this one with my new rig for about a month now and love it. Can be had for $300 when on sale too https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015?Item=N82E16824012015

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:40 AM

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do you know if it has g-sync version?

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 1:42 AM

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This particular model doesn't, but even so Free Sync should still work with an Nvidia GPU over display port

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:42 AM

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really?

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 1:43 AM

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Yeah Nvidia added support for that like a year ago. Technically there is a list of "supported monitors" for it, but almost any FreeSync monitor should work fine

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:43 AM

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oh

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is it in the control panel

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 1:44 AM

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You could probably check around online and see if someone has tried using adaptive sync on that monitor with an Nvidia GPU just to make sure

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:44 AM

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yeah ok

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 1:45 AM

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You should be able to just enable G-Sync/Adaptive sync from the control panel like a regular G Sync monitor, but if you're worried about compatibility then just snag an actual G Sync panel lol

snow epoch Jan 3, 2021, 1:45 AM

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yeah

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 1:57 AM

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@vague fern Do you care about how your pc looks?

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Motherboard, gpu, etc

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Kind of

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I’m 14

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15

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So yea

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But like

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Going to cost you more

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Yea

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Like 220t is the case I was looking at

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:01 AM

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That was actually the case I was putting on the list

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Rlyyyy

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Yeah so you said around 1k?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Been looking for a pc since august and my birthday is end of august and I was gonna get a 2k rig but then I heard about the 30 series so I was like I can wait until Christmas and then I can have a 4K budget but then I bought myself a pc off of marketplace which was only 400cad in like October and then my parents wouldn’t buy me a new pc for Christmas lmao

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Because I need to learn to have patience

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But yea around 1k

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And if I take my ssd out will all my stuff come out with it?

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Well either way no but what kind of ssd do you have

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Idek

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:06 AM

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actually are your psu, storage, fans,

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:06 AM

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What

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:06 AM

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How much storage do you have
How many fans do do have
How many watts is your psu certified for

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:06 AM

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I think 800

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For some odd reason

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And 1tb

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And it has three 120mm

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:07 AM

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800gb ssd?

toxic raftBOT Jan 3, 2021, 2:07 AM

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scott#9745 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:07 AM

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No 800w

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Sorry my bad

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Wow

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In a 670

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Ik

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I was so confused

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Okay so you can re use it

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Yea

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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you can use the fans

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Although

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No the fans

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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and you have a tb ssd?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Are not good

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Yep

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I’ll double check

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:08 AM

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So you can re use that

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The fans are not good why?

A) Performance
B) No RGB

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Performance

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:09 AM

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do you know the rpm on them?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:09 AM

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No

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But they are really old

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📎 image0.jpg

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Here’s what this thang looks like

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Eh well you're getting an airflow case

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:10 AM

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It was so dirty when I got it

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:10 AM

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So as long as the air is intaking and out taking

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:10 AM

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I had to take the whole thing apart

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:10 AM

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How much ram is that?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:11 AM

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They have two different types😭😭😭

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It’s 8gb

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:11 AM

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4*2?

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Been a while since I've ever seen that

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Yes:/

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They have two different frequencies too

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:12 AM

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You have 2 overclocked and 2 base clocked?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:12 AM

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And they had it running 1-1 2-2

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Okay well regardless 16gb is the new "recommend"

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Yea!

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32 is overkill for now

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Do you need any more storage besides your tb ssd?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:12 AM

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But easy to upgrade to

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No I honestly don’t think so

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And that’s another easy thing to get if I need

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Look through your case and follow where the sata cables go to

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Okay!

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I like to say I have a Ferrari with no engine

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Because my monitor was as much as my pc lmao

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And my mouse keyboard and mousepad and headset also is more😭

smoky pumice Jan 3, 2021, 2:15 AM

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hello !

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Hi!

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Sorry it’s an 850w

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📎 image0.jpg

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Lmaoooo

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This thing is ancient

smoky pumice Jan 3, 2021, 2:18 AM

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what do you think about it Monitor ACER Nitro VG252QX?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:18 AM

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One goes to my ssd the other goes to the disk thing

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One of my friends offered me a 2060 or a rx 580 but I just couldn’t take it

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Really regretting it rn

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Lmao

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:21 AM

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You refused a 2060?

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your "old| psu is quite new

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:22 AM

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I couldn’t accept

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:22 AM

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I take that back

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It's from 2011

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:22 AM

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Oh really

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:22 AM

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Still does it's job

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Why tf would they put a 850 when they built this

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Did you go through the sata cables?

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:23 AM

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One goes to the ssd and one to the disk thing

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:23 AM

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It was most likely a work station

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 2:23 AM

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And I couldn’t find where the third one went

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I don’t know if the person that built it knew what they were doing

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Because nothing makes sense

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Or maybe I just know nothing

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Well first boot always takes a good toll

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Combine it with it being mostly likely a workstation and has upgrade

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Does the ssd have a name or branding on it? @vague fern

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YjdzHz

System Builder

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Thank you bro!

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Would getting a used gpu be a bad idea?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 3:37 AM

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no

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 3:43 AM

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What would you recommend?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 3:44 AM

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1k cad right

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you should be looking at used 5700xt, going off of donsta's list

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Okay!

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 3:53 AM

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or 1080ti

vague fern Jan 3, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Sounds good

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:45 AM

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So is it bad if you plan on buying a 3060TI on a 60hz monitor/

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:45 AM

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depends on the res

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:45 AM

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i mean im 100% sure this monitor isnt 4k

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:46 AM

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generally overkill then, yeah

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:46 AM

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so whats like the best GPU to get on a 1080

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:46 AM

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5500xt is a good value, as is the 1660super

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:46 AM

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20 series?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:47 AM

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well, the 2060 is pushing 1080p 144hz

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so not a bad choice either assuming the price is right

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:48 AM

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Well thinking on 30 series is future proof tho

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:48 AM

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futureproof is a lie

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:48 AM

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is it?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:48 AM

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maybe a 1000w psu is

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but not gpus and cpus

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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Hmmmmm

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So what im planning is

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ryzen 5 2600 + 16 Ram + 3060ti on a 1080 60hz monitor

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Overkill yeah?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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why the 2600

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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Thats what i have RN

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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what's your current gpu

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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1050

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TI

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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and i assume you no longer get the performance you want?

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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yeah

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basically

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 AM

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well, if you can get a 3060ti, i'd also recommend upgrading your monitor

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:52 AM

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and i dont wanna get a new GPU that would only last 1 or 2 years

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and become irrelevant by then

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:52 AM

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it's a good card considering you're not upgrading from a 1080ti or a 5700xt

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:53 AM

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2600 aint a bottleneck tho on a 3060?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:53 AM

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it is

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:53 AM

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more than 10%?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:53 AM

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i don't know the % of bottleneck, never particularly liked that

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:54 AM

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didnt we had a website where we can see a bottleneck check

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:54 AM

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userbenchmark?

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trash site

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don't use it

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:54 AM

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dang

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im on pc-builds.com

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immaa try this shit

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:55 AM

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eh

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i'd just watch some reviews on youtube

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see how the chips perform at various resolutions and tasks

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:55 AM

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LMao

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This site dont even have all GPU

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LMAKOL

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trash

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yeah youtube it is then

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:56 AM

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i recommend gamersnexus and hardwareunboxed

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 4:56 AM

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If you're getting a 3060 TI get at least a 1080p 120hz monitor

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:56 AM

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aight hang

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whats like the downside on having a 60hz 1080 monitor

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what am i not getting

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when getting 3060

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:56 AM

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as opposed to a 144fps monitor?

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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60hz is trash to look at while gaming + screen tearing

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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yeah

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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you're not getting a faster refresh rate

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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so like

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if i had more than 60 fps

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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you'd get an updated frame faster

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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the only thing that i see is just 60

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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but your monitor can't transition as "smoothly"

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https://www.testufo.com/

Blur Busters TestUFO Motion Tests. Benchmark for monitors & displays.

Blur Busters UFO Motion Tests with ghosting test, 30fps vs 60fps vs 120hz vs 144hz vs 240hz, PWM test, motion blur test, judder test, benchmarks, and more.

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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If you're getting a constant 60 FPS in games it's because you have v-sync turned on

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 4:58 AM

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use that, the difference between 15fps and 30fps and 60fps is the same principle as 60fps to 144fps

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 4:59 AM

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Name a good 144

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:00 AM

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1080p?

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:00 AM

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Yeah

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Im searching for this shit and all im seeing are 24"'s

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:00 AM

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i mean, yeah

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it depends on how far you sit from your monitor but 1080p 27" generally looks...not great

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:01 AM

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so we only have 24" for 144?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:01 AM

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acer ed270r pbiipx is 27"

static pecan Jan 3, 2021, 5:01 AM

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24" IMO is the biggest you should go with 1080p anything more than that looks like trash

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:01 AM

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that's not what i'm sayying

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it's just not common

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because the market isn't big

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because people think it looks bad

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if you like it go for it

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:02 AM

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Yeah i probably cant get both at the same time

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:03 AM

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depending on your budget, a good 1440p 144hz monitor is a good investment too

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:03 AM

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and i just got thsi too LMAO

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:03 AM

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higher res makes working easier

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:05 AM

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whats my memory speed btw

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📎 unknown.png

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i dont know how to read these

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:06 AM

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it's at 2132mhz

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:07 AM

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Didnt know i had that slow ram speed

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:07 AM

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the bottom four are just default profiles

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the first three are made by the consortium that defines the ddr standards

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:07 AM

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so its 1066 x 2?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:07 AM

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the last one is an overclocked profile

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i recommend using zentimings for amd ryzen cpus and asrock timing configurator v4.0.4 if you're on intel z390, v4.0.3 if you're on z170/270/490

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or hwinfo

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:09 AM

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nah im on b450

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:09 AM

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use zentimings then

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:09 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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This one?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:09 AM

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yeah

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:10 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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Yo it is on 3000

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:11 AM

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those secondaries and tertiaries are real rough

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:13 AM

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meaning

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:14 AM

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higher = worse on timings, generally

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at 1.35 volts, a decent kit does around 3200 cl 16-18-18-36 with the ability to tighten more

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you probably can tighten yours as well but memory overclocking takes forever and isn't worth it unless you have a lot of time, or your xmp profile only goes up to 2666 or something

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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Yeah ocing isnt my thing

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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are you on a single stick of 1x8

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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Yah

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planning on getting anohter 1 tho

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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going dual channel will help a lot for ryzen

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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not sure about the speed to get tho

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you said 2666?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:18 AM

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no

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:18 AM

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3?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:18 AM

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if you're going to buy another single stick, get the same thing you got originally

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if you mismatch sticks they both run at the slower speed

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what cpu do you have

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:19 AM

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2600

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:19 AM

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get 3200cl16 if you're buying a 2x8 kit then

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:19 AM

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Aight

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So i might stick with this 1080 60 monitor for a while with 3060

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Just hoping bottleneck wont kill me

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:20 AM

#

why would it kill you

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i run a 2600 with a 1080ti on 1440p 144hz

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higher resolutions are more gpu bound, but still

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usually you want to match gpu and cpu performance because of price considerations but even though it's not ideal, it's not...terrible

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:22 AM

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i mean..

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whats the worst thing that can happen

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right?

#

im still getting that upgrade

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+fps

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cause i heard some games are so bottleneck itll lower your fps because of that

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Thanks @crimson scroll

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 5:31 AM

#

bottlenecking doesn't lower your fps

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each component just has a max fps for each game at each res

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and whatever component has the lower fps, that's what your game will run at

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general explanation, it's slightly more complicated, but that's true for the most part

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 5:33 AM

#

so TLDR

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3060 is okay with 2600

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 5:42 AM

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You’re going to lose about 20%

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Of your FPS, so no

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You wouldn’t lose much, if any with the 3600

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@vague fern https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-Radeon-RX-5700-XT-GAMING-OC-GDDR6-Graphics-Card-8GB/254824104995?epid=4036079691&hash=item3b54b34423:g:Z6sAAOSwFHBf8QRv

eBay

GIGABYTE Radeon RX 5700 XT GAMING OC GDDR6 Graphics Card - 8GB

Condition is "Used". Works like its supposed to and in "Like New" condition, used this to play AC odyssey and Valhalla at 1440p flawlessly.

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Should be about 460 cad?

lean quarry Jan 3, 2021, 7:25 AM

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I wanted to overclock my cpu via the bios but turns out you can't overclock with a a320m, frick

gilded frost Jan 3, 2021, 7:58 AM

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What did you expect?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 8:30 AM

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to be able to overclock, presumably

lean quarry Jan 3, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Ye but i dindt choose any of the parts myself

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 10:44 AM

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So is 2060 super okay when im not in to 4k gaming?

crimson scroll Jan 3, 2021, 11:03 AM

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sure

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 5:43 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jRfkbh how is this parts list

System Builder

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My friend made it so I’m just asking here

#

Gpu looks overpriced

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 5:52 PM

#

@bold drum
Gigabyte is not great for cards and AORUS engine is a pain also please for the love of all things PC do not buy anything shy of a Corsair non-modular 600-850 watt PSU

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Source: I’ve owned an EVGA card and have a Gigabyte now

#

Another source: 400 is nowhere near enough per me, my local tech guy, PCPartpicker, any mechanical drive in existence, Linus, etc

#

And yes a 2070 should be $500 tops at the moment

#

Considering the 3060 Ti is MSRP $399 (but selling for much more at the moment) and outperforming $1399 2080 Ti cards... yeahhhh

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Telling my friend rn

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Sounds like a $1500 budget?

#

H510 doesn’t have great airflow tbh, just built one for my buddy with a two fan AIO and ehhhhhh rides the 75-82 mark in-game even with fans maxed out

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Yeah ok I told him that

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Ik

#

What gpu should he get

#

Budget is 1.7k

#

How do the other parts look @woven oriole

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:04 PM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qYVXht

System Builder

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GPU

#

Ehhhh

#

Cards are ridiculous at the moment, everyone’s spending chrimmas money’s

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:04 PM

#

Bad ram

#

And you don’t need to buy windows

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:05 PM

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Yeah I skimped on RAM and correct

#

@bold drum RGB yes or no

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:05 PM

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No rgb

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I already told him he doesn’t have to buy windows

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Cool cool try this

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7HYBy4

System Builder

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:06 PM

#

bold drum https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jRfkbh how is this parts list

Wtf is that

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:06 PM

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After tax it’ll be shy of 1.7k

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:06 PM

#

👀

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:07 PM

#

Board has onboard wifi

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:07 PM

#

woven oriole https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7HYBy4

Bad ram

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Ach then tell me what’s good ram

#

I have Corsair C18’s in my machine and they’re great

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:08 PM

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His requests are this
2tb ssd
min. 16gb of memory
no rgb
r5 3600

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:08 PM

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On it

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:08 PM

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It’s overpriced for what it is

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:08 PM

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3600cl18 is the same latency as 3200cl16 btw...

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Yeah

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:09 PM

#

also lpx has no guarantee of being able to run its xmp profile

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:09 PM

#

^^^

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:09 PM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rPb6K3

System Builder

#

Wait

#

That’s with a Ryzen 7

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

#

Also I’ve seen videos that say ram never goes as fast as they should be and you need to go into like the xmp profile to change it

#

Ryzen 7 is fine I think

#

I’ll ask

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

#

btw

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

#

@bold drum fixed it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NmVXht

System Builder

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

#

what is the pc going to be used for?

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

#

Whatever CPU he buys

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpdWK3

System Builder

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01

Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Gaming

#

Also he’s fine with Ryzen 7

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

#

yeah

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

#

Tell him rule of thumb is to spend 2x the CPU cost on a reasonably priced GPU

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

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10700 > 3700x in gaming

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

#

MSI NVIDIA 0 questions asked unless he likes EVGA

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

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ah yes msi

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

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woven oriole Tell him rule of thumb is to spend 2x the CPU cost on a reasonably priced GPU

Meta might have changed

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

#

worse pcb than FE this time

#

this is the best possible list for <$1700 if they're gaming so far https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpdWK3

System Builder

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

#

Ok you anti-Taiwan people 😂

#

Go for ASUS then

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:11 PM

#

i'm not talking about their PR

#

the PCB on the MSI ampere cards are literally mid tier

#

even the gaming x

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:12 PM

#

devout wolf this is the best possible list for <$1700 if they're gaming so far https://pcpar...

Simple air cooler is nowhere near enough for an i7

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:12 PM

#

sure it isn't

#

the 10700 runs fine on the stock cooler

#

bigger IHS

#

and the a500 was $100

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:13 PM

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woven oriole Simple air cooler is nowhere near enough for an i7

Yes it is

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:13 PM

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overpriced but it beats the freezer 33/34 esports

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:13 PM

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@bold drum good job man you started a fight (sarcasm, glad to help)

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Lol

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:14 PM

#

Or just custom water cool it

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:14 PM

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or just

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$30 air cooler

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:14 PM

#

Yeah...

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Because everyone’s first time needs some extra unnecessary expenditure and high risk complicated installations

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:14 PM

#

devout wolf $30 air cooler

Did that, Cooler Master, it was garbage

#

Idle at 50 in game at 90

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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should've chosen a better one then lol

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Got throttled hard

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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lemme guess

#

hyper 212?

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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He needs 2 tb ssd @devout wolf will it become a lot more expensive?

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

#

i7 8700K

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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bold drum He needs 2 tb ssd <@449208129826062357> will it become a lot more expensive?

like $100 more

#

yeah expected

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Lemme guess you were overclocking?

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Ok lemme ask him

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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@devout wolf it was G100M lol

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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craggy sparrow Lemme guess you were overclocking?

0 over locking

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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woven oriole <@449208129826062357> it was G100M lol

so basically

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stock cooler type beat

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Nowadays I’m under the impression OC’ing is useless Russian roulette

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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with rgb

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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devout wolf stock cooler type beat

Sorrrrta

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:16 PM

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pretty sure the wraith prism beats that

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:16 PM

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I think it does

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:16 PM

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also made by coolermaster

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ironically

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Overclocking is not for the new nor is it for me

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:17 PM

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overclocking on intel is still nice

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on amd, it's better to leave that to PBO

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Overvolted ram be like accidentally turning the shock collar up and frying the poor chihuahua’s brain

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 6:18 PM

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@bold drum same list with 2x1tb ssds https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HMf49N

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a lot cheaper than a single 2tb

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:18 PM

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^this

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It’s the right ideas, just, feels off stylistically, no offense

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:21 PM

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My friends said 1 tb but after seeing that he’ll agreee

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Imma send him that list

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:21 PM

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You could choose a different case if you want

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I don’t really know much about cases and neither does my friend so I think I’ll go with whatever he gives me

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:22 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bXLLbh

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Over budget but definitely fits the black RGB-less theme and solid parts

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:22 PM

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You could go with a p400a

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:23 PM

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ATX full tower if he likes breathing

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Well, his PC breathing

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@bold drum if he wants intel and those specs it might take a tad more money lol

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Didn’t he ask for an r5 3600...

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Yeah but rafee found a better deal so he went with that

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How does Ryzen 3700 go up against intel I7 10700f

woven oriole Jan 3, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Lol

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I mean

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Best advice

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Go to local PC repair/dealer/builder shop, preferably an independent one

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They can get your buddy great parts at reasonable prices and solid advice, moreso than a nonprofessional spectator like me could offer

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@bold drum

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Yeah

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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whats the difference beween MSI 3060 ti's?

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Ventus and Gaming X Trio

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Looks

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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all that?

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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And probably clock speed

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But not by much

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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so

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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If anything

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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most GPU brands has the same performance

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is that right?

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'cept for cooling?

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Similar

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But the gaming x trio has better cooling

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Because it’s a 3 fan gpu

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 7:17 PM

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ah

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im actually looking for a good brand of a 3060

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is MSI good?

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 7:20 PM

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just get whatever the hell you can find

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it's not like there is enough stock to pick what you want

craggy sparrow Jan 3, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Yeah anything is good rn

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There’s such a shortage

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Well....the price is so high up in my place, not a lot of people can afford it

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so stocks

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 7:24 PM

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what's the cheapest one?

heavy kindle Jan 3, 2021, 7:25 PM

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$579.32 for a palit 3060

devout wolf Jan 3, 2021, 7:56 PM

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ouch

idle bridge Jan 3, 2021, 8:30 PM

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For a 3060? Bruh. Might as well just wait a bit longer

narrow edge Jan 3, 2021, 8:34 PM

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I have the 3090

idle bridge Jan 3, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Ok?

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So what is that knowledge important for?

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You know, Lovelace, the new architecture? Yeah, estimated to have roughly 50% more performance than the new 3000-series

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When it eventually comes out, that is

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AMD is also going for another 50% performance leap for their next GPU's.

bold drum Jan 3, 2021, 8:37 PM

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So rdna 3

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Maybe I’ll get that when it comes out

narrow edge Jan 3, 2021, 8:37 PM

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Anybody play csgo?