#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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would what go together good

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a 6800xt for 1440p? sure

bold drum
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5950x

crimson scroll
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seems excessive for gaming

bold drum
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Mm

crimson scroll
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why not get a 5600x

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saves a lot of money

bold drum
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Idk much about which cards to get

crimson scroll
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past 6 cores a lot of games don't scale

bold drum
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I see

crimson scroll
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you're just wasting money

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in some they do like F1, Civ, etc.

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but for the most part you shouldn't be buying the 5950x for gaming

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only if you need those cores for production and also like to game

bold drum
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Mm I see

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So which gpu would you suggest I get for 1080p gaming

crimson scroll
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why'd you drop to 1080p

bold drum
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I’m not sure which graphics resolution I really want to go with either

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I heard 1440p is good but if I downsize and save money maybe it would be worth it?

crimson scroll
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i can't answer that for you

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resolution is a subjective thing

bold drum
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Mmm

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Ok what price are 1440p monitors usually in

crimson scroll
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at what refresh rate

bold drum
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60 hz

crimson scroll
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probably around $200

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144hz is a much better experience in general though

bold drum
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But would I have to match that with 144 fps? I read about how you want to match FPS and hz as much as possible

crimson scroll
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for the most part yeah

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but freesync/gsync mitigates that

bold drum
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So in your opinion is 1440p more worth it over 1080?

crimson scroll
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in my opinion, for my personal use case, yes

bold drum
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I’m just a casual gamer so I’m not too picky

crimson scroll
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i have a 1440p 144hz monitor

bold drum
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Dang the parts look like good grabs

crimson scroll
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at least two of them are out of stock

bold drum
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So what would I put in my hard drive vs ssd would I put most of my games or all of them in my ssd?

crimson scroll
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put the stuff you access most that requires loading in your ssd

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put static things like movies or pictures in your hard drive

bold drum
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Ok

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Do you think I’ll find better deals then the ones on the websites in the prop?

crimson scroll
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you certainly can

idle bridge
# bold drum Idk much about which cards to get

Right now imo 5600x is the sweet spot for gaming, same with 8-16 gb ram at around 3000 megahertz, a case that fits the formfactor, with either air cooling or maybe an AIO, coupled with a fast SSD for games and a bigger, but slower sata SSD if needed

crimson scroll
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takes patience and knowledge of where to find deals though

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incorrect

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why would you say 8-16gb

idle bridge
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?

crimson scroll
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and 3000mhz

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ryzen likes fast memory

idle bridge
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true

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but in general

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"around"

crimson scroll
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dual rank at 3733+ is preferred

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2400mhz is closer to 3000 than 3733 is

idle bridge
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iirc Jayztwocent or LTT did some testing, and found that about 3000 to 3600 is the best

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because after that you wont get as much performance pr dollar

crimson scroll
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don't claim the sweet spot is around 3000mhz

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it's not

idle bridge
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damn

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angri

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👉 👈

crimson scroll
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i'm not angry

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i'm correcting something that is factually untrue

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science = angry i guess

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considering the price difference of 3000cl16 to 3600cl16 ($15 on pcpp), and the graphs i'm about to show you

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it does not make sense to claim 3000 is a sweet spot

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especially if you get decent 3200cl16 that can OC to 3600cl16

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like micron rev E

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gtav is the first one, F1 2018 is the second

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3000mhz is pretty down there

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sweet spot is around 3600 to 3800

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taking price of the sticks into account

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this is for Zen 2 but the same applies to Zen 3

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also, the loading time differences between a "fast" ssd and a "slower sata" ssd are small in a lot of games

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nvme does not currently provide a large benefit

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having said that, there's no reason to not get an nvme over a sata considering the prices are pretty equal and in the future we might make use of those speeds

bold drum
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I think I’m just gonna go with 1080p however 1440p look really good

crimson scroll
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sure

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i'd really recommend 1080p 144hz at your budget then

bold drum
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I’ve never seen 1440p tho so I can’t really make a good assumption

rotund jay
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@crimson scroll nice to see someone who agrees with me 😀

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ive seen so many people "confirming" that they feel the difference nvme makes

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but i think its more of a placebo effect most of the times 😀

crimson scroll
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it has other benefits and cons

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no cables, small form factor

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but it can cost you two sata ports

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but yeah, i saw some tweaktown graphs that showed maybe a couple hundred milliseconds difference in loading times in selected games

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you're not really gonna notice

pulsar fossil
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I love my nvme just for the faster transfers (I transfer a lot of big video files for editing) and the simplicity of just plopping it on the mobo and no cables etc

crimson scroll
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right

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in things like video editing where you have large files and lots of them, it matters

pulsar fossil
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yeah

bold drum
rotund jay
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@crimson scroll yup 👍

crimson scroll
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not using the mp34 >.<

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it's fine

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don't like msi parts

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also it's 1390

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i manually entered the price on the 5600x

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they did not

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and mine includes a 2tb hdd

bold drum
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mmm

crimson scroll
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the case you can definitely switch out

bold drum
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i think im gonna just dowmsize the hdd because i dont use that much space maybe just 1 tb hdd or maybe none at all

crimson scroll
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both are very good high airflow cases

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don't go 1tb hdd

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you'll save $10

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just ditch it entirely then

bold drum
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mmm

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ok

crimson scroll
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some other things

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the psu in the list you linked is adequate wattage, but is semi modular

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does that really matter? not that much, but full modular is generally cleaner/nicer looking

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and at a 1.5k budget ,we might as well

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better resell value too i guess

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they have the freezer 34 esports duo on there for 57 bucks

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at that price, i would pick a scythe fuma 2 or ninja 5

strong bolt
crimson scroll
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Pay less on your ssd

strong bolt
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ok how?

crimson scroll
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Get a different one

strong bolt
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oh

crimson scroll
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Samsung stuff is kinda pricey

strong bolt
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true

crimson scroll
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Also you can ditch windows

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Just download it from Microsoft for free

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Take that money and put it towards a dedicated gpu

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Memory is expensive and single channel

strong bolt
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the thing is that you need to already have a windows computer to download it but scince I don't have that I will buy it normally

crimson scroll
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Get 2x8 of something like Vulcan tforce 3200cl16 for 60 bucks

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Nah you can download it on a mac

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Or chrome book

strong bolt
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the single channel memory actually costed less than the double channel

crimson scroll
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Well, don't get vengeance ram

strong bolt
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and I like corsair

crimson scroll
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Sometimes doesn't even hit listed timings

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

strong bolt
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hmmm well the thing is I don't know any other good brand that sells ram

crimson scroll
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they all get their ICs from the same suppliers

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sk hynix, micron, samsung

strong bolt
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oh

crimson scroll
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same with PSUs for the most part

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and ssds

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it's just rebranded stuff

strong bolt
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well the other brands might have the prices sold higher

crimson scroll
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they don't...

strong bolt
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oh

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is it more or less expensive

crimson scroll
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easily cheaper

strong bolt
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yes but I perfer single channel because if I wanted to I could upgrade to 64 gigs of ram (not like I need to)

crimson scroll
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...

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the motherboard has four dimm slots

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get 2x8 and you can upgrade later to 2x16 or 4x8 if you want

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doesn't make sense to gimp your performance now

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especially if you still go with the APU

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which needs system memory to be fast

strong bolt
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oh

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how about my cpu

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ik its on the budget end

crimson scroll
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do you have a 3300x or 3100 available to you at your best buy

strong bolt
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I think

crimson scroll
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check the prices

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i'd go with one of those

strong bolt
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ok

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I found a 3100 but its the same price as my 3200g and I might be wrong but I think 3200g is better than 3100

crimson scroll
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nope

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3100 is better

strong bolt
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and the 3100 doesn't come with built in graphics

crimson scroll
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which you won't need if you buy a dgpu

strong bolt
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the thing is that later on I might get 3070 from nivdia but I don't have the money now. so I think that waiting on getting a good gpu is a better option.

crimson scroll
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the 3070 is the same price as your entire build

strong bolt
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ik

crimson scroll
strong bolt
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I like the parts list but I saw videos on how to put windows 10 on a usb stick and all of them said you needed a windows computer to begin with

crimson scroll
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you don't

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you need A computer

strong bolt
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oh

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well if thats true I could just use my chromebook

crimson scroll
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that's what i was saying

gilded frost
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Probably lean more towards a 5500xt, you can find the 8g cards for about 120, nuts

crimson scroll
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i put in the 480, 580, 5500xt, 1650, 1650s, and the cheapest was 159

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for a 1650

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so i put on the extra $10 for a 1650s

gilded frost
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In a few month's all the old card's prices will tank

idle bridge
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most of 20 series already tanked, but will probs just continue to get lower, until it reaches some pretty low stuff, like maybe even less than the 3070

crimson scroll
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not retail

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used, sure

static pecan
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So I caved and decided to buy a 5700XT (new from Newegg) because they actually got the Red Devil back in stock. I'll use that for the next several months until I'm able to just go onto Newegg or Amazon or wherever and buy a 6800XT on any day at any time without having to compete with hundreds of other people at the same time.

gilded frost
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Either way, a good card

idle bridge
idle bridge
static pecan
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Case comes with 3 140mm Pure Wings 2s and the AIO comes with 3 120mm Silent Wings 3s. Might replace the Pure Wings with more Silent Wings at some point but they'll work well enough for now

idle bridge
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Nice

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So the cooling is ample, and you have headroom on your power supply when upgrading to 6800xt

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I was just thinking, what are you gonna need the 5900x for?

static pecan
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Video editing and content creation/production for my job

idle bridge
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Nice

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Makes sense since they often need a lot of cores

static pecan
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Also not planning on building another PC for like 8-10 years so I went pretty much all out with this one

idle bridge
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Ah

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I am also planning on building a PC soon, but might buy some parts now, and some parts later

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PSU prices getting high, and stock is getting small

static pecan
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Yeah PSUs are kind of outrageous right now. Just another thing suffering from stock shortages like pretty much all PC parts currently

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That's why I bought all of the parts (minus CPU and GPU) in November when I could get good black Friday/Cyber Monday sales

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Prices for pretty much everything skyrocketed again on December 1st lol

idle bridge
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There also was a power outage at Micron, which might cause all RAM to go up in price, all the way through 2021

static pecan
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Yep

crimson scroll
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eh.

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ram has been pretty cheap

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there's no real shortage of flash

idle bridge
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true, for now

crimson scroll
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projected is also fine

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i follow an ssd guy on reddit

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ssds will be fine and getting cheaper, same with ram

idle bridge
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I hope so

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it has been high for a while already

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;-;

crimson scroll
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it's not high

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you can literally get 2x8 3200cl16 for 60 or less

idle bridge
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If you don't call about 10% high, I dunno what you are talking about

crimson scroll
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prices of memory chips are expected to drop 10%

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is that what you're referring to

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because i'm talking about the current price of ram

idle bridge
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Ah

somber lily
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I want an 800 to 900 € pc with an rtx 2060 some suggestions?

crimson scroll
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i assume for gaming?

crimson scroll
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you know you just linked the url for the editor

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not a specific list

idle bridge
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@crimson scroll I am pretty sure I finally know the parts I want in my pc, but there are a few points that I am unsure of. I was thinking that the PSU might be a bit overkill, and would like your comments on any other things to add, or to change. https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/9w8TZZ

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I'll be buying a Corsair Commander Pro + other things such as cable splitter, iirc there are included fan controllers in the 3 packs

devout wolf
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eh corsair LLs

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yes there are lighting node cores included in the 3-packs

craggy sparrow
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They look so good though

devout wolf
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but they're so damn overpriced

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my chinesium xigmatek fans outperform them for half the price for a 5-pack

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so a third of the price

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looks are subjective

tall cove
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lian li fans thoooo

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those are heat

idle bridge
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Hmm

crimson scroll
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@idle bridge cpu cooler is overkill, mothewrboard is overkill, you can get better ram for the same price or cheaper. Why the enthoo pro 2? it's gigantic and you don't have even a single hard drive to put in it

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psu is definitely ooverkill

pale vale
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Are non-steelseries product questions allowed in this channel? Would like to confirm if a gpu maker has a variant of a gpu, buying second-hand

idle bridge
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Yes

pale vale
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CH_Thanks I've found a good deal, I think, for an 1060 3GB from gigabyte. Do they sell an 1050 variant of this with 3gb vram? a

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My worry is I couldn't see clearly the product key in the image, GV-N1060WF2-3GD is what it should be, but I could be wrong and just be me seeing a 5 instead of 6.

crimson scroll
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no

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it's 2gb for the 1050

pale vale
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ACOSP_pogtasty Thanks, I'll trust the seller then, and just confirm the product code that the image shows in person, 2h drive so didn't want to waste the time and fuel.

crimson scroll
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ask for benchmarks and all that, make sure the timestamps aren't doctored

noble oak
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Hey what's up. I'm trying to put together a pc for 600-750 dollars. I will be playing r6, apex, mc, roblox, overwatch, gta v

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can anybody help me put together a pcpp?

gilded frost
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FDpbRT

Good for 750 On the Dot

If you want to go lower, you can get an i3 10100, may seem old but its still a great chip and will have little to no bottleneck with the 5500xt. Nvidia has all of their lower card's jacked up in the price tag. That'll save you around 40 bucks, all you lose is a couple cores/threads. If you're not looking for "style" in your pc, you can get a 20 dollar cheaper motherboard that may server the same number's as the current 460.

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Can probably find some otherthings off ebay like a 5500xt for $100 cheaper if really want to go budget

crimson scroll
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why the wd blue over a sn550

gilded frost
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Eh I guess 3 dollar difference

noble oak
crimson scroll
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same thing but go for 3200cl16 memory, probably tforce vulcan. r3 3300x + b450 board, and then you can maybe spend a bit more money on the psu

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the issue with ryzen right now is stock is garbage

gilded frost
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Stock?

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Yeah

sturdy hawk
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don't expect stock anytime soon

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most of it was sold to prebuilt system makers

crimson scroll
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i'm so tempted to buy the nr200 and a b550i aorus pro right now

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but my 2600 wouldn't work

sturdy hawk
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unfortunately not, minimum 3000 series

crimson scroll
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x470/b450 best am4 chipsets

sturdy hawk
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and even a 3000 series, you'd have to wait for january

crimson scroll
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nah, not necessarily

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i've been seeing alerts for the 3600 in and out

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but i can't justify spending $200 for the 3600

sturdy hawk
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nah

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i didnt regret it a year ago when replacing my 4790k with it

crimson scroll
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it's not enough of an upgrade when the 5600x exists

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technically

sturdy hawk
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and probably not gonna replace it until ddr5 compatible cpus come out in late 2021

crimson scroll
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for me it'd be like having the 6600k, having the option to go to 9600k, but the 10600k exists

sturdy hawk
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since ddr5 memory is expected to be released to the public somewhere in the summer

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cant wait to see the price tag on that

crimson scroll
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even then

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early adopters usually lose out

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early ddr4 wasn't any faster than ddr3

sturdy hawk
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could most likely be the case here as well, alot of instability inc

snow wing
static pecan
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Yes, that cooler has the paste pre-applied so you don't need to put anything else on the CPU itself

snow wing
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Oh shit, that’s dope

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Thanks

static pecan
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Np

inland obsidian
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hi guys! i need some advice on ram, im planning to build amd pc, with r5 3600 and my mother board b450 steel legend, any recoomendation for ram? im planning to go with gskill neo or maybe the tridentz is it good?

crimson scroll
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specific kits are better than listing product lines

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what's your budget

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for the entire PC

gilded frost
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@inland obsidian

inland obsidian
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@crimson scroll if for ram i think around 150$? total would be 1k

crimson scroll
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and what are you doing with the PC

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need lots of ram for VMs or video editing?

inland obsidian
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not rlly, just playin games

crimson scroll
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150 is a lot for ram then

inland obsidian
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probly some emulator for phone games

crimson scroll
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should be able to OC nicely

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micron Rev.E

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even if you don't want to OC, it's got decent timings out of the box and is at 3600mhz which is good for guaranteed MCLK and FCLK matching

inland obsidian
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i see

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oh btw, i check on asrock site it said that they max out 3200 mhz but my friend says all ryzen alr 3600 stuff

crimson scroll
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eh.

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my ab350 gaming 3 has max supported XMP of 3200 and i have mine running at 3400

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and yeah, ryzen likes fast ram

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the faster the better, as long as you keep infinity fabric ratio at 1:1

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i'd put in a 3060ti instead of the 5700xt but...good luck finding it

inland obsidian
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ok thanks man

faint mason
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Hey guys I need some help, I just got a prebuilt(please don't judge me, it was my parents) and I need to know how much can I upgrade it such as, what's the highest graphics card can it take, and how much ram can it take.

crimson scroll
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well you gotta let us know your budget and what prebuilt you got

idle bridge
faint mason
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Plz don't judge

crimson scroll
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what's your budget

faint mason
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Well I don't have one, I just want to know what can I add to it

crimson scroll
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well there's not a ton of specs on it especially since it's walmart exclusive

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can you look at the power supply and check the wattage

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looks like two dimm slots on the motherboard so i'd assume 2x16 would be the max you could run

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maybe 2x32

faint mason
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Ya hold up, and 2×16?

crimson scroll
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2 sticks of 16gb ddr4 ram

faint mason
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Ohhh ok

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So maybe 32

crimson scroll
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no m.2 slot

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looks like four sata connectors?

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they're probably using a crappy wd green

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i'd swap that out soon if it is

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i'm gonna guess it's a 550w psu

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theoretically you could run a 2080ti or 3080 on that no problem, but since we don't know the brand or rating, i'd say safest i'd feel running on that is a 2070 stock

faint mason
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There is green ram, and ak that sounds good

crimson scroll
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green ram?

faint mason
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Idk

crimson scroll
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probably just means bare pcb

faint mason
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It looks crappy

crimson scroll
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not a bad thing

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you don't really need heatsinks for ram until you're doing manual memory OC

faint mason
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Ahh ok, ya

crimson scroll
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kinda weird for aesthetic purposes though

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they put a tempered glass side panel on and the inside looks poopy

faint mason
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Ya, the cpu cooler fan is blue and then the rest are all different colors🤢

crimson scroll
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IMO when you upgrade this prebuilt, swap out the SSD for something like an mx500/su800, and upgrade the ram from 2x4 to 2x8

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can't you control the lights on the fans

faint mason
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Oh ya I can

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Hopefully it can just make it look better

crimson scroll
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i can't really tell where they're hiding the hdd and ssd

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looks like the other side panel maybe, behind the cable management cutout

faint mason
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Ya idk either

idle bridge
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I found some places with cheaper stuff, and changes the CPU cooler, to one with equivalent cooling, just around 40 euros cheaper

crimson scroll
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my previous complaints all still apply

idle bridge
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😩

crimson scroll
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giant case, meh ram, overkill cooler and motherboard

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and that's a shit ton of fans

devout wolf
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didn’t change case cause i assumed you already have it

idle bridge
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Well it's world-wide shipping so I assume so

devout wolf
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get this if it ships cheaper than the deepcools

idle bridge
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17 dollar shipping ;-;

stark quartz
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wasfd

inland obsidian
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Hey guys, for a gaming pc does 4tb hdd is it too much?

gilded frost
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For the price is good, also will help for possible future editing. What type of games?

devout wolf
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honestly depends on your needs

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if you like archiving every game you ever play, you might use it

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also space for full res clips and stuff

inland obsidian
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i see ok thanks

inland obsidian
idle bridge
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4 tb meme archive

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😩

devout wolf
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nah that's what the cloud is for

crimson scroll
static pecan
crimson scroll
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yeah, they're on air

static pecan
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Normal people don't use LN lmao

crimson scroll
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also they put 1.4v vcore

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which is also borderline unsafe

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yes, i noted that

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did you not read?

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and even without LN you can still push to 4.4, 4.5 on good chips

static pecan
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Yes, I can read., but I highly doubt the person who was asking would ever be able to get anywhere near 5ghz with normal cooling solutions

crimson scroll
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your statement doesn't have that qualifier

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and even with that qualifier, again, it's wrong

static pecan
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OK

true wagon
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Is i9 9900k good for 3080? Or is it bottlenecking?

crimson scroll
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it's fine

true wagon
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You think i shouldve gotten like the i7 10th?

crimson scroll
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depends on price

true wagon
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Alright thats okay

noble oak
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gonna be getting an i7 9700k and an rtx 3060 or maybe 3070, same question as the last person lol

crimson scroll
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it'll be fine

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are you getting the $200 9700k from microcenter

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that's pretty worth it imo

noble oak
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uhh lemme check lol

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well im in canada

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so lemme just see if there's a canadian version

crimson scroll
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so, no

noble oak
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rip

crimson scroll
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it's still a good gaming cpu

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for the right price

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no hyperthreading though

noble oak
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oh ok

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thanks

sturdy field
craggy sparrow
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Get rid of the aio

sturdy field
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And also dont know what GPu to get

craggy sparrow
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Change the ram to t force Vulcan ram

static pecan
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GPUs are overpriced as hell rn but do what callum said and get rid of the AIO, the stock cooler on the 3600 is more than adequate to cool that CPU and Vengeance RAM is pretty meh for the money so go with something like T-Force Vulkan or G.Skill. Also go with a WD SN550 for your M.2 instead of the 970 Evo

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Also that case looks like it has zero airflow so I would personally look for something better

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Also you could save a few bucks by going with an mATX board like the ASUS Prime B450M or TUF B450M if you aren't going to need all the PCIe expansion slots of a full size board

devout wolf
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both suck, unless we're talking about the TUF Pro-S which is $130 - which is ridiculously amazing for a b450 board

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pro4 would be a better choice

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cheaper, pretty much the same motherboard with more PCIe lanes

noble oak
tulip path
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Hi there. I'm looking to get a budget PC for around $600-$650. I don't know much about PCs, so could someone put something together for me?

gilded frost
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@noble oak Overpriced

scarlet fog
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yep

calm forge
gilded frost
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^

tulip path
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Minelcraft rust that kind of stuff

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Also cod

gilded frost
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Rust , Jesus.

tulip path
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It looks fun

gilded frost
#

Yeah, It's a great game

tulip path
#

But a way can I get some help

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Anyway

gilded frost
#

My point was you're going to need some optimization

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So you're looking at 600-650?

tulip path
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Yes

deep scroll
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Putting together a streaming PC for a friend, they said their budget is around $5000 and I still haven't added The keyboard, mouse, and headphones. It could probably use some adjustments, but how does it look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vrhJp2

gilded frost
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I’ll take a look in a second crispy

deep scroll
#

Mkay

gilded frost
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@tulip path With everything cranked in rust, 1080p, you'll get about 60+ fps pretty consistently. Minecraft will run like a charm lol. You may be able to find a better deal for the 5500xt in a month, the base price on that thing was $150.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jN7qrr

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@deep scroll Not the best

tulip path
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Ty for the help

deep scroll
gilded frost
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I'll change a few of the part's, not going to touch any of the peripherals

deep scroll
#

Ok

tulip path
#

Mkay lmao

gilded frost
#

@deep scroll Well actually, those monitors are extremely overpriced

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You can get a 1080p 60fps webcam for like 30 bucks

tulip path
#

What about the windows home thing for the pc

deep scroll
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Well, I have a cheap 1080p 60fps webcam of my own, and the quality isn't good

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And also, the one on there is 4k

gilded frost
#

whats the need for a 4k webcam?

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@tulip path You can get a key for 15 bucks

tulip path
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@gilded frost what about the windows home thing for the pc

gilded frost
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Just told you

tulip path
#

Oh

gilded frost
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You can but an online key for 15 bucks

tulip path
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Idk it was called a key

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I’m straight up don’t know anything about PCs

deep scroll
pulsar fossil
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I do but it's not a webcam

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Get a cheap cam and a cam link

crimson scroll
#

eh.

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if they're dropping 5k on streaming

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just buy a dslr

pulsar fossil
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I'm using a Black magic pocket cinema 4k

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Yes it's totally overkill

crimson scroll
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i'm cooking but i'll take a look at the lists in a sec

pulsar fossil
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But damn it looks good

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Sony A5100 with a dummy battery is a great option

gilded frost
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Unless your friend is focusing on "face to face" streaming, I don't see the need for anything over 1080p

pulsar fossil
#

Agreed

deep scroll
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Hmm okay fair point

tulip path
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Idk wtf is happening but I love it

pulsar fossil
tulip path
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Btw what’s a dslr

crimson scroll
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a camera

pulsar fossil
#

Well I'm going to get some sleep, cya later

crimson scroll
#

alternatively get the logitech brio

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4k but also windows hello support

pulsar fossil
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Windows Hello is awesome

tulip path
#

Dslr cheap

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Yesss

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Noooo

gilded frost
#

Your friend could get a 6900XT with the loss of rt

tulip path
#

Maybe so

pulsar fossil
#

Now i kinda wanna get a brio just for that

crimson scroll
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dslrs can range from a couple hundred to thousands of dollars

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not to mention lenses

tulip path
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Pog

deep scroll
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Also a mount for it. Although those aren't too bad

tulip path
#

Whatchu cookin up gorden Ramsey

crimson scroll
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carm onions, white sauce, french green beans into a casserole with lots of cheese

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also fried rice

tulip path
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Damn sound good

gilded frost
deep scroll
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Oh alright. Just shy of 5000 too, cool.

tulip path
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Just 6 dollers shy lmao

deep scroll
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$5.68 shy to be exact PeepoHappy

gilded frost
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Forgetting tax

deep scroll
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Oh yeah that's a thing

gilded frost
#

with tax/shipping here it would easily be 5500+

deep scroll
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Yeah that's about right

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I'll get this list to them, thanks for the help!

gilded frost
#

Well another thing is, you could probably get a better mic for lower the price, a better desk for lower the price . And personally I would spend that 150 towards paint or something to make the background something he/she would like?

deep scroll
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Hmmm. I know the mic there is one of the high-end microphones, but what would you recommend? I looked through desks with them and she said that desk was the one she wanted, but I might see if they would want a dif one.

gilded frost
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Well I personally have the Hyper x quad cast s. Great mic, great price, and RGB all together

deep scroll
#

At 139.99, the HyperX quadcast doesn't seem bad

devout wolf
#

it's okay honestly

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kinda overpriced with gamer tax since the fifine k669 kit beats it for half the price

sturdy hawk
#

comes with pop filter, wind shield and boom arm in the package

gilded frost
#

You know of another RGB mic?

sturdy hawk
#

wireless?

gilded frost
#

Well technically speaking wired will always be better then wireless if components are fairly Matched

sturdy hawk
#

well idk i just saw you edited to mic, my question was for headset xD

gilded frost
#

Ah

noble oak
#

I'm building my first PC. I was thinking of a budget of $600, and I am currently looking at a Ryzen 5 3600x with a 1650 GTX, using a H510 as a computer case. I may buy the cpu used, but do you guys think I may be able to pull off the build with such budget?

crimson scroll
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go for the 3600 instead of the 3600x

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and i'd go for a better airflow case

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h510 is a hotbox

gilded frost
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I personally wouldn't go with ryzen if you're going for a $600 build. A 1650 would have no bottle neck would a i5 9400f - $130 , brand new. ^ H510 is a furnace

noble oak
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Is there a better substitute for the h510? I’d prefer to pay about the same price as it while it looking really minimal.

crimson scroll
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nr600

idle bridge
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but not quite a full tower

crimson scroll
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P500a imo

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But not on a 600 dollar budget

idle bridge
#

Hmm

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Looked for a bit

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dunno if I am just blind, but I can't see if the p500a has dust filters, I know that the p600s has in front and back

faint parcel
#

Best cpu for under $200?

vivid glacier
#

i5 intel or rayzen

gilded frost
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I5 10400F

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That’s in stock and not overpriced

cinder wagon
#

Nah get a ryzen 5

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If you need

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Get a 2600

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If you are on a budget

rough jacinth
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get a ryzen 7 or 9

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as well as a 3090

cinder wagon
#

But if you need a high end one go for ryzen 5 3600

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And GPU

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Budget and all around GTX 1650 super but for High end RTX series

rough jacinth
#

Ryzen 9 3900X

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get that

cinder wagon
#

I don’t need it

rough jacinth
#

budget cpu^^

cinder wagon
#

Yea

craggy sparrow
#

5950x

cinder wagon
#

Yes

craggy sparrow
#

Or 5900x

cinder wagon
#

That is good

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Welp gtg

craggy sparrow
#

Or threadripper 3990x

mint crypt
#

Well for that you need a whole different motherboard

gloomy rapids
#

ryzen rn is better than intel

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more power efficient 2

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they also run a little cooler

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so u can save a little on the cooler

hearty ravine
#

is it worth it to buy the ryzen 9 3900x or is the ryzen 7 3700x still fine or is there a better amd cpu that's not more than the 3900x

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or intel i dont care

gilded frost
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No, you don’t get a 2600. It’s currently rarely in stock, overpriced, and not worth it at all compared to the i5 10400

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@hearty ravine for what system?

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Let me rephrase, what kind of system? Editing, gaming, etc

hearty ravine
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im building a whole new pc, mostly for gaming maybe some streaming? & some still photo editing in between

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but mostly gaming

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not sure about streaming yet

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maybe streaming

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id prefer to not go above the like $550 of the 3900x cos even that is BlobSweat

tall cove
#

whats the cpu budget and what do you want it to do

hearty ravine
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can u not read

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god ret

tall cove
#

i didnt mean to type in this one ngl

hearty ravine
#

well

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ur fired

vivid glacier
#

Hahahah sack em all

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Apart from crash his cute lol

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Welshy is mehh as well hahah only joking

crimson scroll
#

eh

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go for 5900x

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don't go for the 3900x

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harder to get but much better if you're spending $550

hearty ravine
#

thank u mr saucy i was wondering when u would appear from the heavens to answer my question

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if i wanted a cpu thats easier to get my hands on what would you recommend?

crimson scroll
#

do you have access to a microcenter?

hearty ravine
#

unfortunately

crimson scroll
#

they have pretty good deals on some intel chips right now and they might also have stock on new ryzen parts

hearty ravine
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im right inbetween 2 of them

crimson scroll
#

what's the budget for the whole system

hearty ravine
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it's kind of a whatever budget, i dont really want to go above 1.5k but if it's a little above i dont really care

crimson scroll
#

cool

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if you want to make the trek to one of the MC stores then the 9700k is only $200 which is a very solid gaming cpu still. Unfortunately no hyperthreading, so for editing purposes you might want to go for a 9900k at $300 or the 10700k for $330

hearty ravine
#

oh trust me im going to microcenter, im petty & used to work at it so i want to flex lmao

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would you say intel over amd is better for my purposes?

crimson scroll
#

no

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but it is available and it's not a bad price

hearty ravine
#

thats fair

crimson scroll
#

just not best perf/dollar

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the current ryzen chips win in both gaming and performance at the high end and medium end

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from around 250 down, with the MC deals you have available to you, intel is better

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but your budget is high enough that we can go for the high end

hearty ravine
#

yeah ill probably end up splurging hard on cpu since i wont be buying a gpu right away

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i want a 3000 series but i dont want to fight to get my hands on one

crimson scroll
#

same

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there's discords and apps you can use to just alert you but you still gotta get lucky and beat the bots so it's not really worth it right now

hearty ravine
#

yeah i only have a 1050ti right now but my cpu is like 9 years old 😬 so im focusing on replacing the stuff that's like actively either going to fail me at any given moment or that is bottle necking me super hard

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i'll probably just go to MC ready to spend a nasty amount on a cpu/mobo & some ram & an aio

noble oak
#

Me, with an AMD Phenom ii 4x

hearty ravine
#

oop yours is older than mine, i have an i3-4160, which i just learned is from 2014

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i got this bad boy like right as it came out 😎

noble oak
#

my computer still uses DDR2 and even a new processor is like a huge upgrade. running on 8 gigs of ram

hearty ravine
#

pogggg me too! mine uses ddr3 support thankfully i have that going for me

devout wolf
#

damn why is it that when anyone mentions what hardware they have there is always someone that has to announce theirs is worse lmao

hearty ravine
#

i think its more of seeing someone in this chat with a super old & sad pc is like "pog you too?"

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everyone in here is always like "i have newest pc lul sucks 2 suck nerd"

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its like the pointing spiderman meme when you see someone with a pc thats struggling to run games 😎

sturdy hawk
devout wolf
#

it gets pretty out of hand sometimes since there was an entire comparison chain that spanned over a whole day prolly

sturdy hawk
#

im normally super against prebuilts

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but seeing the direction hardware companies are taking where they focus their supply towards prebuilts rather than regular retailers

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it sucks but it do be like that sometimes

hearty ravine
#

eh im fine with slowly upgrading the bits that need it, i dont really need to replace my gpu at the moment so i dont really mind

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the most intense game i play at the moment is total war & if what im using now can run it im not too worried

sturdy hawk
#

yeah i guess if you don't do much

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im into mmos so i had to get mine up asap

crimson scroll
#

i'm against prebuilts especially since they usually have bad airflow alongside mediocre components that aren't the big ticket items

devout wolf
#

most prebuilts in a nutshell
-airtight case
-wd green
-2666mhz single channel stick (even on zen+ apus)
-more money spent on RGB than most individual core components

noble oak
#

Is there anything I should most definitely swap out? I'm probably going to take off the cooler, and maybe find a better case.

crimson scroll
#

eh on the ssd, eh on the cpu

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what's your budget

noble oak
#

$600

crimson scroll
#

and what're you doing with the pc

noble oak
#

It's just a gaming rig that I want to hopefully play some moderately heavy games on

crimson scroll
#

i don't know very much about intel motherboards

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get a second look at that

devout wolf
#

b460-a pro is fine for a 10400

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neo air available for $50 tho

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damn 1650 supers gone ; - ;

noble oak
#

I think HyperX has a discount on their ram, so I think I can probably get 16gig for cheap

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other than that this setup is pretty much done

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You're a big help

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tyty

deep cosmos
#

i m gona give you advice

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the best komponents for pc are ryzen 5 3600xt, rtx 1660 super,2tb hardrive+255 sdd drive+750 eco power suplie

static pecan
#

The 3600XT is a terrible value lmao

crimson scroll
#

that advice is garbage

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no budget listed, no use case

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no brand and model on half the components

noble oak
#

mhm

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I've seen the Ryzen 5 at $300 and I think I'm better off with intel for now

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I don't need so much storage, and I think a 750W psu is overkill

deep cosmos
#

@noble oak look its all about money

deep cosmos
crimson scroll
#

please don't troll here

#

people are going to end up confused or wasting money

noble oak
#

You all are going to be the cause of making someone homeless one day

vivid glacier
#

Morning

devout wolf
#

sup noc

gilded frost
#

Well you can always pull and msi and sell your part's for more 😂

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On another note, the ryzen 5 3600 is finally back down to 200

devout wolf
#

the 10400 is still cheaper and with the price difference you can get a z490 and beat it

deep cosmos
#

ryzen 5 3600x is the best luzers

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@mystic folio shout up

idle bridge
#

What if, what if you buy some parts used

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😳
👉 👈

digital light
#

What did you just say

#

USED

#

Please dont ever and i mean EVER use that word when referring to pc parts

prime thicket
#

brb gonna buy used pc air

digital light
#

breathes in heavily

digital light
#

That's gonna be your USED pc air

idle bridge
#

Can you not post memes and gifs in here? Thnaks

fierce plaza
#

well actually, which i9, there's 10 generations

devout wolf
#

and it's not better than the i9 at everything

fierce plaza
#

true

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you cant just say the 3600xt is better than the i9, you could be saying its better than like an i9 3900 or sumn

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or whatever the number is

#

was there even a 3rd gen i9?

devout wolf
#

no

#

i9's were introduced in the coffelake refresh

#

so the 3600xt isn't better than any i9

devout wolf
craggy sparrow
#

Depends on the generation

fierce plaza
#

didnt the i9 start existing like 6th or 7th gen?

crimson scroll
#

There's nothing wrong with buying used

#

Just be a smart consumer

fierce plaza
#

gtx 1070's are at a great price used

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$200-250

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and they're better than a 1650 or 1660

#

idk if this belongs here but whats a good budget 144hz 1080p monitor?

devout wolf
marsh hull
#

depends on what you want, if you want that 1ms refresh rate with an ips panel it might be more expensive

#

mine cost 300 euros, its the msi optix g271, pretty good, as long as you keep it at a distance

fierce plaza
#

i see

crimson scroll
#

1ms is... Usually overblown or inaccurate

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Input lag is important too

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Not just gtg or black to white time

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And to get true 1ms a lot of monitors require overdrive on which causes smearing

fierce plaza
#

entering MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

hearty ravine
#

alright pc advice, if i swap my hard drive/ssd with the hard drive/ssd on my partners pc, will it mess up windows, or will i be able to use pc with no problem

static pecan
#

Swapping Windows installs between PCs can cause some weirdness sometimes, but generally Windows should be able to realize it's on another PC and fetch the right hardware drivers and such automatically

hearty ravine
#

neat lets hope it doesnt do anything weird cos i need this to work :]

exotic ermine
#

Can someone help me out building a PC?

#

I'm getting a PC in 2/3 months

#

And I want to know, which parts should I get

#

I don't know that much about PCs so

vivid glacier
#

i mean depends on your budget

exotic ermine
#

Just a Good PC with RTX and AMD Ryzen..

#

And I want a good looking case

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That all parts fit together

vivid glacier
#

give me a budget and can creat you one on pc part picker but i mean we talking 800 to 5k haha

exotic ermine
#

Around $1500 haha

#

Also which CPU gives you the CPU Cooler?

#

The AMD RYZEN one

crimson scroll
#

in 2/3 months come back

#

prices fluctuate a lot

#

especially now since we have shortages on some key components

#

a list i give you now is likely to be outdated by then

exotic ermine
#

In 2/3 months I can change them if I want

exotic ermine
crimson scroll
#

what are you doing with the system

#

games?

#

video editing?

exotic ermine
#

Both

#

CSGO, Minecraft, R6

#

OBS Studio

crimson scroll
#

how much video editing

exotic ermine
#

Idk but I think I wouldn't edit that much

#

I will be more Livestreaming and Uploading

crimson scroll
exotic ermine
#

Looks pretty dope

#

The video cart, I will be changing it into Nvidia RTX

crimson scroll
#

it...is an rtx card

exotic ermine
#

I know

#

But I prefer Nvidia lol

#

😂

crimson scroll
#

you mean FE?

#

nvidia makes all the chips

exotic ermine
#

Also do they all fit together?

#

All the parts?

crimson scroll
#

well, i guess samsung makes the chips

#

but it's all nvidia's base specs

#

then AIBs can add better cooling, factory overclocks, etc.

#

yeah it'll all fit together

#

and nvidia's FE models generally have worse cooling than the partner models

exotic ermine
#

Hm

vivid glacier
#

hmmmm

exotic ermine
#

I'm having a look at the list rn

exotic ermine
#

@crimson scroll

#

The AMD Ryzen 5 5600X gives you the CPU Cooler right?

craggy sparrow
#

Yes

vivid glacier
#

yes

exotic ermine
#

Cool

noble oak
#

GTX gpus went up like 10% in price 😔

vivid glacier
#

yeh

alpine briar
#

Imagine not having a GeForce Gt 640 that can run apex legends at 10 frames

craggy sparrow
#

It’s Christmas Eve

alpine briar
#

Merry Christmas

opal aspen
#

ok so hear me out

#

msi motherboard and tuff

#

*stuff

#

nvidia graphics

#

amd cpu

#

and steelseries peripherals

vivid glacier
#

yes yes yess and yess

opal aspen
#

linus where you at

crimson scroll
#

way too vague

opal aspen
#

lemme use like a pc part picker or smth

crimson scroll
#

you should also say what your use case and budget is

vivid glacier
#

LOL

opal aspen
#

im going balls to the wall

#

like

#

if i had infinite money this would be my pc

gilded frost
#

It would help if you showed us what you were buying so we could try and help?

vivid glacier
#

Yikes 4k is it prebuilt mine was 3k and thats top range i9 3080 and 64gb ram to start lol

crimson scroll
#

pcpp is for building your own computer

civic apex
#

y’all i just installed my ssd and oh my god

#

everything is so fast

crimson scroll
#

congrats

civic apex
#

thanks

noble oak
#

Bruh

#

I got this from stock x

civic apex
#

nice

static pecan
#

Why tho?

crimson scroll
#

so...what card is that

#

can't be a 3090, looks too cheap

#

if it's a 3080 you paid too much

devout wolf
#

hopefully it’s aud or cad

civic apex
#

no it says usd

noble oak
#

Is 3080 asus

crimson scroll
#

you paid 500 too much imo

#

closer to 600 too much

noble oak
#

Lol

#

I got money willing to pay anything

crimson scroll
#

man, do i have a bridge to sell you

noble oak
#

No thank u I do t buy use stuff

crimson scroll
#

it's a figure of expression

noble oak
#

Ok

crimson scroll
#

look up george c parker

bold drum
#

Even if you have money why would you spend that much

crimson scroll
#

i mean, people who are rich enough just don't care

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people with oil money for example

bold drum
#

Every dollar counts tho

crimson scroll
#

time is more important

bold drum
#

Mm

#

I see but 500-600 too much damn

crimson scroll
#

if you're bezos, you don't care if it costs you $1000 or $3000 for a computer you need or want now

#

you just get it

gilded frost
crimson scroll
#

no pcie 4.0 drive

#

slow memory

#

cheap motherboard

#

not 1200 or 1500w

#

this build sucks donsta i expected more 🙂

devout wolf
#

an O11 without filling it with 3x 3-packs of Corsair QLs? smh

crimson scroll
#

or lian li unis

noble oak
#

Anyone know any mid-tower cases similar to the h510? I really like the h510, but I’m hearing that it’s very hot and doesn’t cool very well.

crimson scroll
#

nr600

#

and you are correct, the h510 has very little airflow

noble oak
#

If you don’t mind, I would love some kind of white case similar to the h510, but thanks for the suggestion.

crimson scroll
#

that's a little harder

#

4000d airflow maybe?

#

got the same flat boxy look

#

lancool ii mesh has the same side look, angled front

#

td500 mesh is not similar but does come in a white variant

#

same goes with p400a/p500a

noble oak
#

Might go with the 4000D. Thanks

crimson scroll
#

there's a couple of variants so be sure to get the one that's airflow focused

noble oak
#

Will do

gilded frost
#

Only thing I would've liked better on the motherboard is another one or two M.2 slot's.

devout wolf
green gale
#

(pc building sim)

devout wolf
#

yay

#

time to make steelseries integration by injecting into chroma integration

sturdy field
#

Can someone give me ideas on some good cases

vivid glacier
#

Looks good

craggy sparrow
bold drum
devout wolf
#

i rate it a solid 5.5/8

#

here's the plan of action

#

take advantage of the 10700k for $319 deal

#

get rid of case unable to cool components in this specific list

bold drum
#

Ok

devout wolf
#

nevermind all that

#

i'm editing the list

#

i'll send it in a minute

#

hmm

#

solid

tall cove
#

Where is the saucy one

#

I need a second opinion on price or if there is something better in or below that price range 😂

bold drum
#

@devout wolf would I just buy the parts from that site or find better ones if I go to micro center

devout wolf
#

you could try looking on microcenter for cheaper prices on the same/similar parts

#

the 10700k is $10 more on mc than on b&h

bold drum
#

Ok

#

But I think I will stick to the same parts you gave me

vivid glacier
#

thats not a bad pc hehe

bold drum
#

So with the prices of zen 3 the intel ones probably are better price right @devout wolf

devout wolf
#

kinda yeah

#

the 5600x obliterates in gaming

#

but the 10700k has 4 extra threads

#

and is actually available to buy easily

vivid glacier
#

true

bold drum
#

Cuz no ones buying intel rn right

#

Also I have another question. When intel releases a new generation are they changing the chipset? Or what are they doing

#

Like i7 say 10th gen

devout wolf
#

11th gen will be on the same socket

crimson scroll
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@tall cove i've given up

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i end up making the same list for everything pretty much

devout wolf
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new refreshed chipset too, but the chipset will also support 10th gen

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i'm praying that b560 has unlocked memory

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or at least 2933 for the i5

vivid glacier
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iv got a i9900k does the job

devout wolf
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9900k is nice

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especially now

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it's like $300 on microcenter

vivid glacier
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its a good price atm

bold drum
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So when they release a new chipset do they do it for like previous cpus like i5

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Like I see amd making new Ryzen 7s or 9s and new ryzen 5 i think @devout wolf

devout wolf
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oh you meant chips

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chipsets are on the motherboard

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b460, z490, x570 etc

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intel is going to release the full product stack

vivid glacier
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oh i was confused haha

tall cove
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The 11th gen Intel Acer is on sale for 749

bold drum
devout wolf
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uh yeah

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11th gen will release with intel 500 series chipsets

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h510/70, h560 and z590

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but the socket will remain lga1200

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and they will be cross-compatible

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400 series will need a bios update to work with 11th gen

tall cove
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Take a look at the laptop I’m replacing for my mom

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That nice 4 gb of ram

bold drum
devout wolf
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yup

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i think chipsets release earlier than cpus

bold drum
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I see

vivid glacier
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i see see

crimson scroll
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i don't know much about laptops

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seems okay though

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but i doubt your mom needs an i7

vivid glacier
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my mum needs a i9 haha

devout wolf
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intel laptops severly underperform anyway

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they can't keep their power up while thermal throttling

vivid glacier
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true true

lean quarry
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i currently have a gtx 1050 ti and a amd ryzen 3 1200 and i am wondering, is the cpu bottle necking the gpu?

vivid glacier
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mmm sort of

lean quarry
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cause i cant play gta at everything lowest but if i look online people can run at high settings with it

mint crypt
tall cove
static pecan
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You might be able to find a laptop with a Ryzen 5 4500U or something for around that same price or maybe lower depending on model and brand that would be a much better value and also have better battery life

mint crypt
crimson scroll
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i like to avoid absolutes when talking about stuff i don't know

mint crypt
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...

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Ok

deep scroll
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Only a sith deals in absolutes..

tall cove
gilded frost
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For?

tall cove
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Getting this instead because Newegg hates my card limits

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My mom, work laptop

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I can upgrade storage later

gilded frost
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Meant price, sorry lol

tall cove
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Oh, 499 USD before my discounts

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I work for em so ggs

gilded frost
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That’s pretty good for 499

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Only thing would be it’s clock

tall cove
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Yeah but if you look at what she is coming from

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It is an improvement

stoic vigil
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That's old

crimson scroll
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i assume it's a replaceable m.2 drive?

vivid glacier
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looks it m.2

lean quarry
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devout wolf
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kfc hasn't

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cooler master did

vivid glacier
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kfc wttttt

lean quarry
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And now your challenge is to get your pc as hot as possible because otherwise you wont get the chicken tendie’s crispy

calm forge
lean quarry
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Maybe not water cooling but oil warmer?

vivid glacier
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raw chicken gamer dinner hahah

tranquil quarry
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Built my first pc today and its all looking good just dont have a graphics card yet because im waiting for 3070s to restock whenever that happens

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for the moment i have no onboard graphics so no display but a friend of mine has a GT 1030 spare so would I get away with that for the moment?

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got a ryzen 7 3800x, 16gb ram, just tryna figure out would that graphics card work for basic stuff or would it just bottleneck/crash

wind sinew
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it will work for basic stuff and esport games

tranquil quarry
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ideal thanks 🙂

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thats how it looks right now, such a pity Nvidea are struggling with stock atm

crimson scroll
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every single chip maker is

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intel's own fabs can't handle their demand, all new gpus are out of stock constantly, same with zen 3

tranquil quarry
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Wonder how long it'll actually be before they get a grip on supply again

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Feel like most people are being optimistic about it early next year but that's really wishful thinking at the same time

dusk nymph
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ok so i have 400 usd

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i got from christmas

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looking to upgrade my pc

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I have a 1050ti already on hand

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so I just need to get everything else

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Im looking to run:
Overwatch
Fortnite
Rust
Rainbow 6 Siege
Forza
Hopefully on medium to high settings

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anyone got suggestions for cpu's please and thanks

crimson scroll
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you should post what your current pc is

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we have no idea what part needs upgrading

vivid glacier
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^^ straight up we need the facts 💯

bold parrot
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How good are these specs
NVIDIA GTX 1650 4GB
8GB DDR4 Memory
Intel Core i7 9700F
2TB 7200RPM Storage
240GB Solid State Drive

crimson scroll
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what ssd

idle herald
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corsair mp600 or sabrent rocket nvme 4.0?
if you had to pick a pcie 4.0 1tb drive

vivid glacier
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How much u paying for that