#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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than a 2080s?

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incorrect

rapid stream
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oh, right

solemn bolt
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hmm

rapid stream
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didnt see the s

crimson scroll
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close in some games

solemn bolt
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well, ok, thanks

rapid stream
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but generally, new hardware is almost always better

crimson scroll
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it's more power efficient and will improve with driver updates, yeah

rapid stream
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2000 series stock designs look sexy af though imo

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but thats really a minor factor i guess

crimson scroll
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inferior cooling

slim plinth
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I need help

crimson scroll
slim plinth
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Ok

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What I need help is plugging in my front panel connectors

crimson scroll
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okay

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need some specifics

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what motherboard

slim plinth
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B450 tomahawk max

crimson scroll
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okay and what specific problem

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you don't know what goes where?

slim plinth
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This

crimson scroll
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yes, what is the problem

slim plinth
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How would I plug them in, in like what order

crimson scroll
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what do you mean order

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you can plug whichever one you want in first

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as long as you connect the power switch leads to the power switch plug

slim plinth
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But it says this

crimson scroll
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yes, i'm not seeing the problem

slim plinth
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Tells me how I should plug them I.

crimson scroll
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correct

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so plug them in...how it tells you to plug them in

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which one you do FIRST doesn't matter

static pecan
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They have to go on specific headers but the order in which you plug them in doesn't matter

crimson scroll
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^

slim plinth
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One more thing

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I don’t. Have a usb front connector

crimson scroll
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okay

slim plinth
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Is that normal

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Or not

static pecan
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Well, does your case have a USB port on the front?

crimson scroll
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i mean, the tomahawk max has plenty of front usb port headers

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what case do you have

slim plinth
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H510

crimson scroll
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🤮

slim plinth
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K

static pecan
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If there's a USB port on the front of the case but no USB front panel connector then you should contact the manufacturer and get a replacement case lol

crimson scroll
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the case has one usb c 3.1 and one usb A 3.1 though

slim plinth
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I would it be this

crimson scroll
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so yeah, it should have headers

slim plinth
crimson scroll
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yes

static pecan
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So plug that into the USB 3 header on the mobo

crimson scroll
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that's the usb 3 header

slim plinth
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How about this one

crimson scroll
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that's molex

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you use it to power things

slim plinth
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Where would I put it

crimson scroll
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your psu

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what's the other end connected to

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i'm guessing a fan hub or leds

slim plinth
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The thing is connected to my psu

crimson scroll
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so you probably don't need it...

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i would focus on what comes out of your case and motherboard rather than what comes out of your psu

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especially if your psu is not fully modular

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you need to power most things in the case, you don't need to necessarily attach everything that is on your psu

slim plinth
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My psu is non modular

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This is how it looks

crimson scroll
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yeah so you are going to have stuff coming out of it you don't use

slim plinth
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One more thing I have to plug this is right?

crimson scroll
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i honestly cannot tell what that is

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what's the other side attached to

slim plinth
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There

static pecan
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Pretty sure that's the USB- C header

slim plinth
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Don’t plug it in?

crimson scroll
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no, do

slim plinth
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Why?

crimson scroll
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that is indeed the usbc header

slim plinth
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Is it important

crimson scroll
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if you don't you won't be able to use your front io usb c

static pecan
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The oval looking port on the front panel of your case is USB-C

crimson scroll
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you don't have to i guess you just won't be able to use the port

static pecan
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Plug that connector into the USB-C header on the motherboard

slim plinth
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Ok

crimson scroll
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i recommend looking at the case documentation as well

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that way you know what cable is what

slim plinth
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One thing where would I plug this in

calm forge
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is it a daisy chain cable

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is it connected to other sata headers

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it depends on what uses sata power in your pc

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so if you don't have anything else that uses sata power, you don't need to plug it in

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i'm guessing its a daisy chain cable, correct me if i'm wrong

crimson scroll
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the blurry one in front? looks like it, yeah

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the prongs in the back? harder to tell

noble oak
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Mustard and ketchup cables 🤮

azure spruce
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guys

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can ryzen 5 2600g & rx 570 can they run 240hx

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hz*

wheat dove
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No

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Maybe in Minecraft

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Or CSGO in low

azure spruce
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i do play csgo on low

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bc i stream and i want to buy zowie 240hz monitor

wheat dove
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Do a benchmark

azure spruce
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how?

wheat dove
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@azure spruce How many ram

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?

azure spruce
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16

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i have 1 of 16

wheat dove
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And SSD or HDD storage ?

azure spruce
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ryzen 5 2600g and rx 570

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1tb

wheat dove
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of SSD ?

azure spruce
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128gb for system

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and 1tb for games

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i play csgo and minecraft and valorant

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also i do some photoshop and other shit

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but most mainly for csgo

wheat dove
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@azure spruce

azure spruce
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i can run rx570

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i mean csgo on rx570

wheat dove
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Yeah but not 240Hz

mortal patrol
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Using userbenchmark is not a good idea

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most of their numbers are inaccurate or falsified, and their reviews often biased

wheat dove
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Oh ok I didn't know this

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Thanks for the information

crimson scroll
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according to userbenchmark, certain i3 are better than threadrippers

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just in general

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which is completely laughable

mortal patrol
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Also, if you wanna go 240Hz
You'll need a mid tier GPU, though if I'm correct, any current RTX30 series or Radeon6000 would serve you fine
The 2600 will bottleneck most current tier GPU's, so an upgrade to ryzen 5000 is recommended

crimson scroll
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they also refuse to acknowledge the gaming superiority of the 5600x and just say some nonsense about buying a 9600k

mortal patrol
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That's why links to UBM are banned on most pc subredits

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PCMR is like the only one
And the UBM subreddit

crimson scroll
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i just ran a quick test

mortal patrol
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I remember UBM saying my i5-6300HQ was only 5% slower than my 3600

crimson scroll
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r5 2600, 16gb 3200cl14, 1080ti, all settings high, 1080p

wheat dove
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What benchmark do you recommend me ?

crimson scroll
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in d2 dm i get around 200fps

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it'll be worse in game with smokes and mollies

mortal patrol
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The best benchmarks are the built in ones in games

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or just messing with settings and playing them

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if you're uncertain what to buy, ask experienced people

crimson scroll
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also for csgo specifically

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your gpu does not matter very much

cedar herald
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ye

mortal patrol
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true, but an RX570 will still struggle hard to get 240fps

cedar herald
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esports titles are made to be cpu bound to get high erformance

mortal patrol
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Siege is GPU bound

wheat dove
mortal patrol
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but valo, CS, LOL,

crimson scroll
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sure

mortal patrol
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deffo CPU

crimson scroll
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past a certain point it doesn't matter

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besides you should really be playing on all low for comp cs

cedar herald
wheat dove
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I have a RTX 2070s, so np for me

crimson scroll
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Counter Strike GO in tested on the RX 570 at 1920x1080, 1280x720 and 1024x768 resolutions - Low (competitive) and High settings.

⏱ Timestamps ⏱

Intro, Specs, Stuff - 0:00
Low 1080p - 1:25
Low 720p - 3:55
Low 1024x768 - 7:20
High 1080p - 9:42
High 720p - 12:22
High 1024x768 - 15:18

🔧 SPECS 🔧

◽️ AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - Same or similar performance...

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average fps on 1080p high is 250 on the rx570

mortal patrol
crimson scroll
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it's fine

mortal patrol
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I remember CS on my laptop

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no joke

wheat dove
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Me too

mortal patrol
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80fps with drops

wheat dove
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30min of loading for playing at 30FPS

mortal patrol
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GTX960m and i5-6300HQ

wheat dove
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And 1 week after the game was crashing all the time

mortal patrol
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640Cuda cores
1014MHz max speed
2GB Vram

deep scroll
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The radeon software thingy was using like %76 of my GPU (Out of 12.0GB) so I went to the AMD website to see how to uninstall it, but now it doesn't show up in my task manager.

cedar herald
deep scroll
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Hmm

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Yeah prob

crimson scroll
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you can install just the driver without radeon software adrenalin

cedar herald
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reinstall

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i use it

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it doesnt hurt my performance

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a reinstall should fix it

crimson scroll
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it's like geforce experience

cedar herald
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^

crimson scroll
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you don't need it

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just get the driver directly

deep scroll
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Alright. I was just annoyed by the software cause I couldn't do crap.

cedar herald
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lol

deep scroll
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It's an RX 570, which one do I select?

cedar herald
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scroll down to 500 series

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or u can use the search bar

deep scroll
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I'll use the search bar

cedar herald
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it detects

crimson scroll
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no...

cedar herald
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tf

crimson scroll
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i selected one randomly to show it

cedar herald
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it detected mine

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lmao

crimson scroll
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you can manually select...

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dude context

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i literally said earlier in this chat i'm using a 1080ti

cedar herald
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ya like im gonna scroll up to read that

crimson scroll
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you posted 9 messages after i sent that...

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you were in the chat

cedar herald
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9 msgs

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is more than u think

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lokl

crimson scroll
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i don't know how to respond to that

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you're saying you can't remember more than 9 messages

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which is maybe a minute

cedar herald
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ohhh u posted it when they were talking abt csgo

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i dont read

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long msgs

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btw

crimson scroll
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clearly not

cedar herald
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it looked like 1080 p to me

crimson scroll
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reading is an important skill

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you should consider getting better at it

cedar herald
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I cANt rEad

deep scroll
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Now I'm reinstalling the software. Tf? I didn't want the software because it took up a ton of my GPU

cedar herald
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maybe it was a glitch

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it doesnt really use my gpu a lot

calm forge
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yikes

deep scroll
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Alright that fixed the problem. It now only uses an average of about 10% instead of 76%

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But it does say I have to restart my computer so hopefully it doesn't go up

wispy salmon
gilded frost
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Rate it on what? Also what are you using it for? Ryzen 7 2700x for 300 bucks /2060 doesn't make sense

crimson scroll
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based on just price? it sucks

gilded frost
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Yep

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Probably 2 times as powerful

crimson scroll
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don't know if they need the extra cores but yeah...could go for a 3700x at that price

noble oak
glossy seal
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Total: $1145.87

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wdym......

crimson scroll
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i assume they mean the monitor and stuff isn't included in that price

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but meh

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if you're gonna go 3100, why not a520

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that's an overpriced ssd relative to the rest of the build

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no gpu listed

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what are you doing with the build?

glossy seal
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and how about the taxes

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023

glossy seal
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oh god this build is so wrong

calm forge
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they might already have one on hand

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also they could swap out the rgb fans with normal fans and spend the extra money on better ram

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and then swap out the fans with rgb fans later

glossy seal
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or get a better cpu

calm forge
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yeah

glossy seal
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well the 2600 has been going up so you might have to wait

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get rid of the mouse

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maybe get a razer deathadder essential or wait for the g502 to get on sale

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get a hdd too

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500 go is not enough

calm forge
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the deathadder is a relatively large mouse

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it may not fit their hand

glossy seal
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the essential one is pretty small

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and get like a corsaie hs60 pro for the headset

calm forge
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in my opinion I don't really like that shape of it

glossy seal
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its wired but its way better then the steelseries

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then wait for the g502

calm forge
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well the g203 is still a very solid mouse for its price

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i've used mine for about 3 years now

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no problems

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its not the best

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but its not bad for what its worth

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I'd say they could've made the hump a little taller

glossy seal
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i mean

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its a normal mouse with rbg

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and now its full price

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he can get something way better then that

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this is my build

gilded frost
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You turned a $500 budget pc into &
$1,000

glossy seal
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wdym

crimson scroll
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That build is pretty imbalanced as well...

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And it's using the a400

glossy seal
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wdym

gilded frost
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You’re from Canada

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I was wondering why the prices were horrific

glossy seal
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lmao

crimson scroll
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a 340 dollar motherboard with a 2600, which is currently valued at maybe 165 cad

glossy seal
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this is not inclusing the taxes and the gpu

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im not that retarted

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i got the mobo on sale for 200 with taxes

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ram 85

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cpu 210

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gpu 200

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case 100

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mouse 50 with taxes

crimson scroll
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put that in your pcpp instead of flooding it here

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hard for us to accurately judge then

glossy seal
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kk

lean quarry
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da frick

crimson scroll
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i saw that tweet when i woke up

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these companies are so shitty when they start losing

bold drum
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ray tracing may be good but im not lookign forward to it that badly

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it just takes so much of my ram id rather have a better experience without it as well because of the peformance reduction

devout wolf
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no i'm in 10th grade, why?

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how does that relate to what level of education i'm in

bold drum
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i have no idea how that relates to middle school

crimson scroll
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you're not allowed to be knowledgeable about a subject if you're not in high school or above

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didn't you know?

bold drum
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lol

lean quarry
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How do you mean?

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Is a ryzen 5600X a bottle neck for a rtx 3080?

crimson scroll
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i was using sarcasm

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no, it's not except for in maybe rdr2

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5600x is among the best gaming cpus you can buy right now

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although "can buy" is a bit misleading i guess

devout wolf
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lmao true

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if you want something in stock, wonder if a 10700 non-k is a good buy over a 3700x

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better gaming performance and pretty close in multicore, and is cheaper

crimson scroll
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microcenter has been selling the 9700k for around 200 iirc

devout wolf
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oh that's a really good deal

crimson scroll
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and the 9900k for...350?

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so yeah, if you need the cores intel is now...king?

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wow, that's weird to say

devout wolf
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and amd is currently the gaming king

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what in the hell

lean quarry
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I dont want intel because of the motherboards that are anvailable

crimson scroll
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now we need mobo vendors to make all their shit good on the intel side

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yeah if you have the money i would still recommend the 5600x

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it beats out the 10900k, 9700k, 10700k, etc. in most games

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01EhbmJAW-k pretty fps charts starting at 6:15

Our review of the AMD R5 5600X CPU is now up. We're testing it mostly in gaming vs. the Intel i5-10600K crown-holder, the AMD R9 5900X, 5950X, and many others. 5800X next.
Sponsor: Buy the Corsair 4000D Airflow on Amazon (https://geni.us/aMBA1r)

Our Wireframe Desk-Sized Mouse Mats are on back-order and will be shipping soon! https://store.gamer...

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devout wolf
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https://youtu.be/01EhbmJAW-k?t=375 timestamped for people too lazy to seek through a video

Our review of the AMD R5 5600X CPU is now up. We're testing it mostly in gaming vs. the Intel i5-10600K crown-holder, the AMD R9 5900X, 5950X, and many others. 5800X next.
Sponsor: Buy the Corsair 4000D Airflow on Amazon (https://geni.us/aMBA1r)

Our Wireframe Desk-Sized Mouse Mats are on back-order and will be shipping soon! https://store.gamer...

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calm forge
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thanks

crimson scroll
cedar herald
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damn

lament trail
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where are you looking to get those prices

crimson scroll
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microcenter email

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most of their cpu and gpu deals are in store only

lament trail
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thanks

craggy sparrow
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Jeez

lament pawn
crimson scroll
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$2060 for a 3090? ouch

calm forge
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yikes

static pecan
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Big Yikes™️

noble oak
crimson scroll
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meh

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No SSD, 32gb ram, a $130 cooler with a 3600 and a $190 motherboard, bad airflow case

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seems very imbalanced

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what's your budget and what are you looking to do with the system

craggy sparrow
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You don’t need to buy windows

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You don’t need an x570 for an r5 3600, get rid of one of the hard drives and put an ssd and swap the ram

devout wolf
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lol two separate kits of lpx

crimson scroll
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have you noticed we get a lot of people who toss a pcpp link in here and then never say anything else

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no follow up, no request for help, just the link

devout wolf
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mhm

crimson scroll
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wish they would stop with the dumbass bundles

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hopefully it stops scalpers a bit more

devout wolf
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yeah i've seen that, it's stupid

toxic raftBOT
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Saucy Raichu#4498 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

crimson scroll
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uh what

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anyways i think it can work if you make overpriced bundles, the scalpers take them all, and then you hope nobody buys from the scalpers

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the issue is that you're delaying how long real users will get the card

craggy sparrow
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Yeah

devout wolf
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some scalpers set up bots on ebay too

static pecan
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Lmao

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Good

crimson scroll
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that screenshot is tiny but that's hilarious

solemn bolt
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The Ryzen 5 3600 comes with a cooler, but
Is it worth it to buy a better one?

crimson scroll
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depends on your budget and your tolerance for noise

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i upgraded the wraith stealth on my 2600 after about a year, year and half

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because i had more money and it was kinda loud

solemn bolt
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hmm

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I mean, the cooler isn't bad.

crimson scroll
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yeah

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it's adequate

solemn bolt
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but, let's say, Valorant

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the recommended temperature would be what??

crimson scroll
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i'd expect temps to peak at around 75 probably

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hot would be 80+

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if you run a benchmark like cinebench or prime95 you can push to 95, 100c

steel anchor
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yo

solemn bolt
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i was thinking of a Cooler Master Hyper or something like that

steel anchor
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so like tomaro i am going to my local costco to get a new pc

crimson scroll
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it's not just the temps though

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it's also the noise

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hyper 212 is fine but i think overrated now

steel anchor
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so like idk witch pc should i get

crimson scroll
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the sse-224 and its derivatives are generally cheaper and perform slightly better

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@steel anchor my recommendation is to not get a prebuilt

steel anchor
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ok

crimson scroll
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what pc you should get should be determined by your budget and your use case

steel anchor
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ok

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thier are a lot of good pcs

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ive alwys wanted a nzxt

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pc

crimson scroll
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nzxt cases have poor airflow for the most part

steel anchor
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and once i get the new one i am going to use my old one for streaming

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so i will have a dual pc setup

devout wolf
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poor quality sleeve bearing fan

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crappiest mounting ever

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doesn't even perform that well to today's budget air cooler standards

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i recommend the se-224-xt too

snow wing
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What’s the first thing I should get or focus on if I wanna build a pc

earnest whale
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the main thing you should never skimp on is the graphics card

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also keep in mind with an AMD cpu really focus on fast ram such as 3600 speed and up

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PC part picker is a great site to make sure everything you choose is compatible and the best price. Also you can find there pc builds other people have put together to get inspiration.

gleaming nimbus
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Can someone help me

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Whenever I turn off my pc then boot it up again

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I have to go through bios

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I mean it’s not horrible just takes a few minutes which is annoying

earnest whale
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it may be a setting in your bios itself

gleaming nimbus
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Oh ok

earnest whale
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Unless its saying there is an error

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Then i just recomend loading optimized defaults and see if that fixes it

gleaming nimbus
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Ok

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If I do a bios reset will it lose my data

earnest whale
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ummm

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Im actually not sure

gleaming nimbus
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Ok

earnest whale
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itd reset your bios setting for sure

gleaming nimbus
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Ok

earnest whale
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idk about your personal windows info

gleaming nimbus
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Yeah

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Ya know what

earnest whale
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I looked it up and it says it wont reset your data on your drives

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should be only the bios

gleaming nimbus
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Oh ok thank god

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I was thinking of getting like 8 gigs of ram and a $15 hard drive and just putting em in and doing that lol

earnest whale
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lol i mean thatd work

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but from what i see it shouldnt effect your personal things

gleaming nimbus
earnest whale
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Yeah thts what i saw

gleaming nimbus
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K and I just kept my clock speeds at default

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So it doesn’t really matter lol

earnest whale
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yeah unless you know about overclocking I wouldnt recommend messing with your frequencies

gleaming nimbus
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Ye

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Ik a lil abt it but like not a lot

earnest whale
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Yeah

next bobcat
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Yeah

earnest whale
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if supported ofc

craggy sparrow
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You can also buy stuff factory overclocked

earnest whale
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Yeah

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We're mainly talking about bios issues and stuff though

vestal pendant
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hey guys i have a question, where tf is mario judah?

craggy sparrow
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Oh ok

devout wolf
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and it's fine with 3200+ too

earnest whale
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yeah

crimson scroll
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Main thing to focus on is your budget and use case, what goes in your build depends on that @snow wing

tranquil quarry
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So I've bought most of the parts for my first pc but not got the graphics card yet (hoping to get a 3070 after Christmas if restocked)

CPU Ryzen 7 3800x
RAM CorsairVengeance16gb 3200mz
PSU EVGA 750W BQ
M.2 Samsung EVO Plus 500gb
MB MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
HDD Seagate Barracuda 2tb

Any good reccomendations for a case? Been thinking about getting the BeQuiet Pure Base 500

craggy sparrow
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P400a is really good

earnest whale
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Hey tristan if you dont all ready have that Samsung nvme you can get a really good 1tb m.2 for the same price

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Silicon Power A60 1 TB M.2-2280

crimson scroll
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a80 is more comparable

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a60 is more budget tier

earnest whale
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Yeah I was just bringing it to light for it being the similar price and twice the capacity. The speed differemce at that point for load times and whatnot would most likely be unoticeable.

crimson scroll
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my goto for budget nvme is the a2000/sn550

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there's also a sandisk that's the same as the sn550

earnest whale
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i recently snagged me an intel 665p for like 80 bucks i think

crimson scroll
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QLC i believe

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good for storage

tranquil quarry
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Thanks haha I've already got all the parts at home ready, I'm just waiting on the CPU to arrive and still gotta pick the case but I'll take a look at the P400a

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Sadly gonna have to wait on the graphics card for the moment until stock is sorted out 😫

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What's the whole thing with new PC Cases only having 1 usb 3.0 and instead of a 2nd one having a type-c?

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Everything Ive got is a 3.0 usb so dont see the need for a type c but is that something that's gonna be more common down the line

crimson scroll
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Usbc is becoming more popular in a lot of devices, that's why

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Glad I'll have data to point to

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I'm expecting it to not perform very well at the higher end

earnest whale
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Now we just need apple to adopt it in their phones so we can all share a cord

jade rapids
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good luck with that

crimson scroll
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usb literally means universal serial bus

earnest whale
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yep

crimson scroll
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it was supposed to be single port for everything

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but usb also has itself to blame

earnest whale
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they're rumors of the next iphone having no ports

crimson scroll
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3.2 gen 2, 3.2 gen 1, rebranding 3.1

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what a mess

jade rapids
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always was the phone manufacturers screwing it up for everyone

earnest whale
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(Apple)

jade rapids
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Micro USB and derivatives were invented because of European conservation laws

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They got tired of all the E-waste from so many different types of cables, literally every model phone had a different one. So they came up with a standard that all manufacturers had to follow

crimson scroll
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i don't believe that's the truth

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it's true that the EU has gotten angry at apple for proprietary connectors

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but the original usb standard was developed by pc companies who wanted to make it easier to connect external devices

jade rapids
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I mean the phone end, I agree USB A was more a PC thing. Problem is, as the standard evolved, while the USB A connector remained more or less universal, the other end did not. USB C was an attempt to change that, so everything could have the same connector on both ends. Apple's Lightning was the precursor to Type C, but of course Apple is stubborn so nobody else used it, and they haven't accepted USB C for the iPhone. Also, all the alt modes for USB C mean that it's still not really universal

crimson scroll
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just checked, the eu smartphone supply standard came out in 2009

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and yes, it's annoying that usb c could mean display, or just power and file data

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or any number of others

jade rapids
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Very annoying, yes. I have a USB C on my laptop and I still have no clue quite what it supports, because there's no documentation that says specifically what standard it is, and I'm never quite sure if issues are with the adaptors or the port itself since even the hubs and converters don't support everything.

crimson scroll
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when building my keeb i had to specifically get a certain kind; device side usbc and the host side usbc cannot be interchanged

jade rapids
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yeah, host and slave.

crimson scroll
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there are also usbc that work for both sides

jade rapids
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that's probably the only universal thing about USB anymore

crimson scroll
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thunderbolt, audio, video out as well

jade rapids
crimson scroll
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much harder to solder which is why the site i used doesn't offer it

devout wolf
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when a brand wants to include lightning in their device, they have to pay apple for licensing

earnest whale
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apple = 💩

devout wolf
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as a company i agree

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their products are decent, but overpriced

earnest whale
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Yeah

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I hate how mind controlled the majority of their customers seem to be. New product with Apple logo, "ooo lemme me get it idc".

devout wolf
#

yeah waiting to see how many people overpay for the new rebranded beats with metal

earnest whale
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Lol they're nice but 550 come on

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Grab some sonys or bose and call it a day

devout wolf
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sony xm4 costs the same yeah lmao

earnest whale
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Im meaning their wireless noise cancelling line ups

devout wolf
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it is wireless anc...

earnest whale
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the xm4?

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oh yeah thats the name of the ones i was talking about lol

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but thers 300 bucks cheaper

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the only thing I would say @past quiver is had you gotten a 3070 it would've been an investment even if you couldnt use its gull potential right away

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On the other hand the 3060 ti is still a monster card and a great value and by the time you use its power fully the 3070 may be cheaper or even something better by then

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if you dont mind could I ask what your other parts are

digital light
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🇵 🇨

earnest whale
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🇮 🇳 🇩 🇪 🇪 🇩

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I was trying so hard to understand what you just typed lol

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quit

digital light
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What i do

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emod

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DOME

earnest whale
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typin random letters tryin to make interpret them

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Unless these are just obscure acronyms

digital light
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akec

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CAKE

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izzap

earnest whale
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i see

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pizza

digital light
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PIZZA

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iep

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PIE

earnest whale
idle bridge
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I am looking at either an 3070 or a 3080, for some high end 1440p gaming, (Of course with settings at high or max), and would like to know which model of the 3070 or 3080 you guys would recommend, my budget is about 2000 - 2500 Dollars 🙂

devout wolf
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asus tuf

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very good card and is usually at msrp

idle bridge
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I'll take a look

crimson scroll
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Whichever card is in stock

craggy sparrow
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Depends if you care about looks or not and what you think looks good @idle bridge

cedar herald
finite horizon
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🇵🇱

eternal jacinth
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lol turkish liras died

earnest whale
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yeah not terrible

eternal jacinth
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one dollars 8 tl

crimson scroll
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735 for a 3060ti...ouch

earnest whale
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there are definietly som improvements to be had but itll do

crimson scroll
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i would look for a different motherboard

earnest whale
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ye

crimson scroll
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you can also go for a lower wattage psu

earnest whale
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Yeah like 600 650 should do

crimson scroll
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you would be fine with 400-500

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in furmark the 3060ti FE draws around 200w non-OC

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the 3500x will draw less than 120w

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i'd also look for different ram from vengeance

earnest whale
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i just created a new card lol

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the rtx 3969ti

crimson scroll
#

?

earnest whale
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i mistyped when seraching the 3060ti

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and created that

fluid pond
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am i able to share an executable jar file that i made its a basic pc building chatbot in java

arctic delta
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yall think a 650W PSU would be fine for a R5 3600 and 3060 ti?

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i think it will be but some people disagree

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which i think is weird

crimson scroll
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it's fine

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i just posted the wattage draw of the 3500x and the 3060ti

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scroll up

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650 is actually right around 50% utilization under max load so it'll be efficient too

arctic delta
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sick

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i also wtf is the 3500x i didnt even know that existed

crimson scroll
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OEM part that is more of a southeast asia thing

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later made available for consumers, but not in the west really

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similar to the 3600 except no smt

arctic delta
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ahhhh ok

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i was soooo confused

crimson scroll
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well, similar in non-multithread applications

arctic delta
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yeah

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if you can get a 3600 for < $200 its still a great processor

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everyone saying the 3600 is dead with zen 3

crimson scroll
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imo it should be 3300x for 120, 2600 for 120, 3600 for 150, 5600x for 300 right now

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we've seen the 3600 for 155, it sucks to pay even 180 for it right now

arctic delta
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3600 for 150 would be so nice, i got mine for 190

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i didnt care tho

crimson scroll
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honestly at the $250 prices i was seeing for some time right after zen3 launch

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just go with the 10600k for gaming

arctic delta
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fr

crimson scroll
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more expensive motherboard and no stock cooler, sure

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but cheaper ram

arctic delta
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im trying to get a 3060 ti FE rn, but dang they are out of stock

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a lot of people dont use stock coolers imo anyways

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im trying to get a arctic freezer 34 esports duo rn

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to replace my stock

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cause coil whine

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but the grey version prices: ⏫ ⏫ ⏫ ⏫

crimson scroll
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look into id cooling stuff

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they have gray/blackout models of some of their coolers

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should be around the same price or cheaper

arctic delta
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yeah but the problem is i really really like the look of the 34

crimson scroll
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fair

arctic delta
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but yeah its $90 for the grey 34 rn

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cry

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*was

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now its out of stock

crimson scroll
#

scythe fuma 2 keeps dropping out of stock as well

arctic delta
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ye

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i kinda want a liquid freezer but damn that block ugly

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and i dont need it for a 3600 xD

jade rapids
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It's like the worst season of the worst year to try and find anything decent in stock right now tbh

arctic delta
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frrr

bold parrot
crimson scroll
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way easier for us to see what you're doing

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anyways, you looking for a critique or recommendations?

earnest whale
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yeah saucy ive directed her there as well

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shes looking for both

bold parrot
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Uhhhh

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I’m a guy lmaooooo

earnest whale
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ummm

bold parrot
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LMAOOOO

earnest whale
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little deceiving name and pic my bad

bold parrot
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Your good lol

earnest whale
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i just assumed you were ava

bold parrot
#

Oh no

earnest whale
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anyways ill take my leave lol have fun with saucy he;ll help you out

bold parrot
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I just want mainly the ryzen 7

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And parts that work well together

crimson scroll
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what are you doing with the pc and what's your budget

bold parrot
#

1,400

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The pc is for gaming

crimson scroll
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why the ryzen 7 3700x specifically then

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it's a last gen chip

bold parrot
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And for like school and other things

crimson scroll
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and it isn't worth it over the 3600 for gaming

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unless your school work involves some specific applications it's trivial for modern chips

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office and web browsing is super easy

bold parrot
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I see

crimson scroll
#

anyways, looks like you have access to a microcenter

bold parrot
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Yeah I do

crimson scroll
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physical access right

bold parrot
#

Yes

crimson scroll
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okay

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you can look into the 9700k at $200 at microcenter

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it'll be a dead end chipset, but for pure gaming, it's a good deal

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the case you've picked has poor airflow

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if you like the overall aesthetic, look into the lancool 215 or lancool II mesh

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the ram is fine, but if you don't mind non-LED ram you can get 3200cl16 for around $55-60

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i'd also pick up an nvme drive, they're close enough or even cheaper compared to sata drives, and it's less cables to deal with

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and theoretically faster

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look at something like an sn550 for around the same price

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i don't know what price you're getting the 2060 at

bold parrot
#

😳😳😳😳😳

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You know your stuff

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Thank you

crimson scroll
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i'll make a list on microcenter's site

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i don't love their selection of psus so i might honestly leave it off

bold parrot
#

Oh okay

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What motherboard do you recommend

crimson scroll
#

so with am4, since you have access to the 5600x, you can do two things. go cheaper on the motherboard since the vrms are honestly fine on pretty much all of them, and in that case i'd go with the b550m pro4

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Or, splurge a little more, get something like the b550 aorus elite v2

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first one is $100, second is $160

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the share button apparently doesn't work on microcenter's website

bold parrot
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Oh okay I’ll check it out

crimson scroll
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ignore the prices

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keep in mind they're out of stock on most gpus so you just gotta pay attention when stuff's coming in at your store

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ideally you'd be going for a 3070 on the budget but they're really hard to find, at msrp and just in general, and the 5700xt is still a good card

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with this build you'll be aiming for 1440p 144hz

bold parrot
#

Ohh okay

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What if I don’t want the 3070!

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?*

crimson scroll
#

that's cool

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any particular reason you wouldn't want one

bold parrot
#

Mmm prices

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also the video card is sold out in that store

crimson scroll
#

yeah

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what's available at your local store

lean gale
#

Question whats does AMD stand for and what does it mean when it does not have AMD?

crimson scroll
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amd the company?

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stands for advanced micro devices

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not sure what the second part of your question is

lean gale
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When it says AMD what does it do?

crimson scroll
#

what is "it" that you are referring to

lean gale
#

yes

crimson scroll
#

okay, good troll

lean gale
#

?

static pecan
#

Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) is a company that makes desktop PC processors and graphics cards, along with server workstations and AMD processors are what power all the Xboxs and PlayStations

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A simple Google search would tell you that lmao

lean gale
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oh ok

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i see thank you

bold parrot
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@crimson scroll let me check what’s available

crimson scroll
#

the powercolor is a decent choice too

bold parrot
#

Which one would you go for

crimson scroll
#

really there's a couple of 5700xts i would avoid

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and they mostly fixed the issues i think

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i'd go for the 5700xt

bold parrot
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The dual or triple fan one

crimson scroll
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hmm

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price difference?

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better yet, link me

bold parrot
#

Wym

crimson scroll
#

post the link to both models

crimson scroll
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well the first one is a 5600xt

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not a 5700xt

bold parrot
#

Yeah

crimson scroll
#

so...the second one

bold parrot
#

Okay

crimson scroll
#

they're two completely different cards

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second one is much more powerful

bold parrot
#

How so?

crimson scroll
#

uh

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it's like a 1070 vs a 1080ti

bold parrot
#

Ohhhhh

crimson scroll
#

more bandwidth, more stream processors, more ROPs, more texture units

bold parrot
#

Also do I have to get the ryzen 5 or could I get the ryzen 7

crimson scroll
#

i mean

#

you could get the 3700x

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it'll be worse game performance

#

and the 5800x is not a good buy right now

#

you don't gain much gaming performance, if any, over the 5600x

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and you'd be better off saving money in most cases on the gpu and putting that towards a 5900x instead for production

#

if you're on a budget and need the extra cores for something, the 3700x has a place. Just not in your build imo

bold parrot
#

Oh I see

#

What’s the difference between intel and ryzen

crimson scroll
#

that's a vague question

#

there's a lot of different architectural and technological differences between the processors produced by intel and amd

#

but the most important thing is which one has better performance and fits your budget, for the applications you care about

#

and right now, the newest generation of amd cpus is better in most games

bold parrot
#

Which one has better performance out of the two

crimson scroll
#

i just answered that

bold parrot
#

Oh

#

Uhhh

crimson scroll
#

performance depends on application

#

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i'd watch this to get some idea of how they stack up in various applications

bold parrot
#

Oh okay

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LMAO

#

The 5700 just sold out

lament pawn
earnest whale
#

You're legendary

devout wolf
#

pog

noble oak
#

Is 64 bit

#

Oem

lucid glade
#

Get a few more and make a mobile?

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@noble oak

river osprey
#

bro

#

what in the

earnest whale
lament pawn
#

Old card on top, new card on bottom

craggy sparrow
#

Nice

crimson scroll
#

second one is weirdly thinner

#

guess they wanted to save on heatsink material

lean quarry
earnest whale
#

😆 I love it

crimson scroll
#

i know you're memeing but i spent $30 on my psu and i run a 1080ti

noble oak
#

hey guys

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so i already have an idea of what im going to build for my pc

#

but im not sure what motherboard ot get

#

Asrock b450m/ac or MSI b450m bazooka wifi?

crimson scroll
#

do you have a pcpp list

#

and what're you using the system for

noble oak
#

gaming

crimson scroll
#

and what's your budget

noble oak
#

it's going to use a ryzen 5 3600

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900

#

i already have a ryzen 5 3600 in hand

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so i dont have to buy it at super inflated prices

#

im just really in between getting one of those two motherboards

crimson scroll
#

why those two specifically

noble oak
#

best reviewed and cheapest so far

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and i've seen they're pretty popular

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plus i put it in a lot of the budget for a 5600 xt

crimson scroll
#

i can make a build with a 5700xt for 900

noble oak
#

i still haven't ordered it

#

but myabe if i can snatch a 5700xt or 5600xt

crimson scroll
#

do you need wifi

noble oak
#

then yeah

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yes

#

i absolutely need wifi since all the ethernet ports are filled in my router

crimson scroll
#

you can get another router to get more ports

#

imo if you can make it work, wired>wireless

noble oak
#

yes i know

#

but right now i've just been between those two motherboards

crimson scroll
#

well, i don't like msi

#

but their board is better

noble oak
#

oh so i should get the msi board instead of the asrock one?

crimson scroll
#

it's got an extra m.2 slot and support for higher ram speeds

#

the reason i don't like msi is because of scalping their own products and trying to blackmail journalists

noble oak
#

oh i didn't know tht

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oh thanks man

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'preciate it

crimson scroll
#

you can always drop the ssd down to 500gb and it'll be below 900 then

noble oak
#

yeah

#

thanks

crimson scroll
#

np

devout wolf
#

but the psu is actually sketchy

idle bridge
lament pawn
#

The 3090 Trinity

idle bridge
#

damn

#

i wish

#

Ain't you that rich guy with a lot of the top of the line products?

lament pawn
#

Not exactly

#

I still have some cheap stuff

idle bridge
#

cool

#

What CPU?

lament pawn
#

Ryzen 5 3600

idle bridge
#

Nice

#

Mobo?

lament pawn
#

A B450 MSI Gaming Plus

idle bridge
#

Damn, sound nice

lament pawn
#

Full specs are on my steam profile anyways vvLUL

idle bridge
#

I wanted to buy parts for a pc this year, as I've been a budget gamer for the better part of 8 years

#

My first laptop ran minecraft at a whopping 13 fps, now I upgraded and I run around 50 in minecraft, but rest is bruh, so I get sub 60 fps in CS:GO

lament pawn
craggy sparrow
#

69

lament pawn
#

Yea my GPU gets hotter cause i just have limited space for my case

thorn fossil
#

Hey I need a new psu . Anyone have any brands that recommend? I need a 650w to 750w

vague pine
#

i have r5 2600x and 3060ti/2080 super how many watts should my psu be?

#

ok thank you so much

craggy sparrow
#

Yeah

#

I would say 600

tall cove
#

@elfin ember stop doing that

craggy sparrow
#

Nope I recognise that link

idle bridge
#

High settings 1440p, 4k or maybe even 8k?

#

By the way, how much did you spend on your 3090?

lament pawn
#

And 1440p

craggy sparrow
#

High or low?

lament pawn
#

High

crimson scroll
#

takes 20 years

#

and all you do is sit and stare at the screen and hope you don't get errors

idle bridge
#

rip

#

😳

#

What if, what if you just used the default xmp profile

#

👉 👈

crimson scroll
#

Boring and slow

#

I've hit 3200 cl14-14-14-30

#

I'm at 3400 cl16-17-17-32 right now with some tightened secondaries and a much lower trfc

devout wolf
#

yeah ram oc is so exhilerating

#

i hooked my reset_sw connector up to my clear cmos header so i could clear it quickly

#

had to use it many times

smoky talon
#

Hello

#

I am really new to the PC building world and im in the process of building one rn

#

any tips for a first timer?

gilded frost
#

How much do you know

smoky talon
#

Just the Basics Tbh

gilded frost
#

Do you know what an AIO is?

smoky talon
#

no sry... 😫

gilded frost
#

Actually I guess I could start at gpu and cpu

#

Okay cpu and gpu you know right?

smoky talon
#

Cpu yes gpu remind me

gilded frost
#

Graphics card

smoky talon
#

then yes

gilded frost
#

Ram

smoky talon
#

yes

gilded frost
#

SSD/HDD?

crimson scroll
#

Luckily I don't need to clear cmos, if my oc fails the system just reboots a couple of times until it posts

#

I'd recommend looking at bitwit Kyle, Paul's hardware, or LTT beginner videos for building a pc

smoky talon
#

yes

crimson scroll
#

Easier than teaching over text usually

#

But as far as tips go

smoky talon
#

yes i know what ssd is and internal hard drive

crimson scroll
#

Enable xmp, remove plastic from cpu cooler seem to be the big ones

#

And plug your display out into your gpu

#

We're on cycle 2 and it hasn't thrown any errors yet, nice

devout wolf
gilded frost
#

@smoky talon What kind of rig are you building? What do you need help exactly with, just asking for help with tech is very vague

smoky talon
#

Whats a rig?

#

Sry if im asking obvious questions but im still very new to all this

gilded frost
#

Computer

smoky talon
#

uhhh do u just want the specs?

gilded frost
#

Sure

#

But what exactly do you need help with?

smoky talon
#

Nothing I was just asking for some tips

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but heres the specs

gilded frost
#

Tips on what though?

gilded frost
#

^

smoky talon
#

lol

#

works for me

crimson scroll
#

That is 90% of actually building the system

#

Honestly just watch some videos from the people I recommended and if you have specific questions ask here

#

There's threads on reddit on "what do you wish you'd known when building your first pc" and all that

wicked river
#

i ocd ram and couldnt go on my pc for a day trying to clear cmos and then boot off of my ssd

#

it was the worst 🤕

crimson scroll
#

My aida64 memory bandwidth benchmark dropped after tightening timings

#

Very annoying

devout wolf
fallen zenith
#

What would be the best motherboard for the Ryzen 7 3700x CPU?

devout wolf
#

meg x570 godlike

fallen zenith
#

Alright

crimson scroll
#

no.

fallen zenith
#

nope

crimson scroll
#

also, great answer Rafee

#

i'm sure that's exactly what he wanted lol

#

clearly there are people online here

true wagon
#

Oh alright

smoky talon
#

Damn u guys now so much

#
#

basically the overall specs but im getting the Ryzen 7 zen 3 and NVIDIA RTX 3070

crimson scroll
#

please please please use that site

#

easier for us than having to go through all those links

#

also, why the 5800x

#

you doing some production work?

craggy sparrow
#

Could just use pc part picker lmao

static pecan
#

You mean the link Saucy literally just posted 🤔

craggy sparrow
#

@mint crypt yeah so you can get a seagate barracuda 2tb hard drive for only 50 bucks

#

Or a 1tb one for like 30-40

mint crypt
#

How about 500 gig

crimson scroll
#

not worth the price usually

#

and not very much storage

craggy sparrow
#

Yeah

mint crypt
#

Ok so one thing

#

No

#

TB

crimson scroll
#

?

mint crypt
#

ONE TB

#

I should get that

crimson scroll
#

usually for the same reason as the 500gb drives, i would recommend the 2tb over the 1tb

craggy sparrow
#

What about a 2tb HDD and a 500gb ssd

crimson scroll
#

that's fine

#

what i'm running pretty much

craggy sparrow
#

Yeah that’s what I was recommending

mint crypt
#

I already get a 500 gig ssd with computer

#

Like I should add

craggy sparrow
#

Then just get a 2tb hdd and you should be fine

crimson scroll
#

i don't know the context of this but

#

you already have a full build? or what

mint crypt
#

No I’m getting a full build in like 1week or more

crimson scroll
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a prebuilt?

mint crypt
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Basically

crimson scroll
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i would avoid against that

mint crypt
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Except it’s not from a company

crimson scroll
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wow that was not english

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i would avoid prebuilts in general

mint crypt
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No like a guy is building it from parts

crimson scroll
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oh okay

mint crypt
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Yeah

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And I think 500 gig is t a lot

crimson scroll
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eh

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depends on what you're doing i guess

craggy sparrow
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It’s not

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I struggle with 1tb on a PS4 slim

crimson scroll
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i mean, i have a 1tb drive i've barely touched for all my school stuff

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it really does depend

craggy sparrow
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Yeah

crimson scroll
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if you only play a couple of games, maybe league, cs, and the occasional singleplayer game you'll uninstall after

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500 can be fine

craggy sparrow
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I don’t uninstall games, well at least I don’t like doing it :/

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Because the games I play I put quite a few hours into them and sometimes money for in game stuff

mint crypt
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Ok so 1 tb is fine

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I play Minecraft and valorant mostly

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Sometimes csgo

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I take that as yes

crimson scroll
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a 1tb ssd? sure

mint crypt
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No I have 500 gig ssd if I add 500 gig hard drive I have 1Tb

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Or am I dumb

crimson scroll
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at the price for 500gb hard drives you might as well get 2tb

smoky talon
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WHy Do YoU KnoW So MuCH

crimson scroll
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Why do you type like that

calm ridge
tawdry imp
calm ridge
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ye

crimson scroll
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at that point you're stretching the budget imo

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$10 between a 1tb hdd and 2tb hdd, fine

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it's another $30 from 2 to 4tb

idle bridge
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We are also getting to the point where some SSD's at the low end, are getting cheaper, while still faster compared to their harddrive counterpart.

crimson scroll
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well, yeah

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getting cheaper, but not cheaper than hard drives

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if you need static storage and have room, hdds are still king

bold drum
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so in what situations are the zen 3 good for? Im probably not going to get it but im curious if its just a good grab

devout wolf
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gaming

crimson scroll
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A lot of situations

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Depends on what chip you get and your budget

bold drum
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So I I wanted to game around 1440p budget was 1500 and I got the 6800xt would they go together good?