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manic umbra
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or a 1550 even

rustic furnace
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πŸ‘πŸ‘

manic umbra
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πŸ‘ πŸ‘

crimson scroll
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what 1550

tall cove
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3060 ti thooo

manic umbra
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pretty fire ik

crimson scroll
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more cards to split up the silicon supply that we can't get our hands on whooooo

sly grotto
tall cove
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That too but

sly grotto
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price tag not too bad

tall cove
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I think that for that price tag I’d be looking to replace my 1660 with that 3060ti

sly grotto
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If I didn't get my 3070 by now, I think I would've still got the 3070 just for the extra juice

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but still

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3060ti awesome price to perf, even better than 3070

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apparently 3060ti overclocked highly will bring it to stock 3070 speed, or near around there

tall cove
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I just know that the system I have would still need upgrades to handle a 3060ti... maybe

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Maybe a better psu for it

sly grotto
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what psu you got rn?

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cause it's recommended to have 600w, as the card chugs around 200 watts tops

crimson scroll
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meh

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i run a 520w with a 1080ti

tall cove
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I have a 500w

crimson scroll
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recommended always skews high especially since it used to be that SIs would run crappy psus that couldn't deliver actual listed wattage

sly grotto
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Also I absolutely love it how a 3060ti which costs $399 and yet it costs Β£369.99 in the UK

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it's hilarious

tall cove
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I don’t imagine OCing it so I think I would be fine

crimson scroll
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better than it costing 399 pounds

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which a lot of cards did

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just directly changing the currency without changing the number

sly grotto
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Regardless it's stupid

crimson scroll
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it's an improvement already

sly grotto
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I suppose

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still very poor

crimson scroll
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i mean

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most places outside the us get shafted on price

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with VAT

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and base price is higher anyways

sly grotto
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Yeah true true

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Just Americans are lucky I guess lol

crimson scroll
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i would take VAT every day

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not gonna get into it but healthcare and our entire system sucks

sly grotto
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are you American?

crimson scroll
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yes

sly grotto
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Yeah

tall cove
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it just be like that sometimes

sly grotto
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at least we got the NHS and things here which are very beneficial

bold drum
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NHS helps doesnt it. the onyl bad thing is once you get old no more NHS for you

sly grotto
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Well you still have NHS free, apart from prescriptions and things like that

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but it's no more "free" since you are paying your tax bracket

crimson scroll
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3060ti seems like a worthwhile step up maybe from a 970/980/1060 but not so much from a 1080ti

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i'd still go used 1080ti imo

sly grotto
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1080ti still solid card to this day

lament trail
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do you think its worth from a 1650

sly grotto
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you could easily hold off another gen

crimson scroll
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yes if you're not getting the performance you want

sly grotto
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I'm super hyped, 1gigabit coming to my area within the next 3 months, can't stop thinking about it πŸ™‚ (UK is very behind all the gigabit stuff, rare to have it now)

bold drum
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are you getting that internet speed?

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or are you talking about something else

tough hazel
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ill look into it, but wdym by new case?

crimson scroll
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the case sucks

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bad airflow

gilded frost
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4 included fans:
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
3 included fans:
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Corsair 275R Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ycbCmG
Corsair 4000X - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jNCFf7
Cougar MX330-G Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
2 included fans:
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Corsair 4000D Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBVG3C
Metallic Gear Neo Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pwzFf7
P360A - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YNdrxr/
P400A - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3RJmP6/

I’ll just paste it here so next time you don’t have to scroll all the way up

crimson scroll
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i just search for rafee and one of the listed cases

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takes 2 seconds

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but appreciate it πŸ˜‰

tough hazel
crimson scroll
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still the 9400f

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you can get a faster nvme drive for cheaper

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1050ti is outdated

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weird motherboard choice since you can't OC the cpu

tough hazel
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again, as i said i just threw random stuff together that looked good and fit the budget while sustaining my needs.

tough hazel
crimson scroll
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this pc just for gaming?

tough hazel
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mainly

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i might get in to streaming but for now its just gaming

crimson scroll
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and your budget is around 1k?

tough hazel
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floating around there, yes

crimson scroll
tough hazel
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5600x is fully out of stock and i cant find anything but scalpers

crimson scroll
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yeah

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i would recommend waiting unless you need the pc now

static pecan
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5900X just arrived. Now I'm just waiting on my case which should be coming probably on Monday. Still on the hunt for the elusive 6800XT, but hopefully I'll be lucky enough to snag one before January like I was with the 5900X

cedar herald
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damnnnnn

crimson scroll
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the downside to waiting to getting all your parts is that it's harder to tell if something's bad

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rma periods can be short

cedar herald
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let him enjoy his glory

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jeez

static pecan
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True, but I decided to go ahead and take the opportunity to buy all the parts except for the GPU and CPU while they're discounted for the holidays, plus Newegg and Amazon both are doing returns through the end of January regardless of condition of the product so if something is wrong I can just send it back

crimson scroll
cedar herald
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lmao

static pecan
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oof

tough hazel
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im gonna try to shoot for next year or the year after that until i get a pc, gotta think of everything i want and tie that with what i can get, i might get parts one by one until i can pay somebody to build it. its definitely gonna take some time until i get it all.

static pecan
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It do be like that lol

crimson scroll
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i'd build it yourself instead of paying somebody to build it

static pecan
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^

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It's a good way to learn some new skills + it's fun

tough hazel
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i have absolutely no idea how to build, i can barely build a lego set at this point

static pecan
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Well that's why you research and learn before you dive into it

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I researched stuff for like a year and a half before I did my first build several years ago

static pecan
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Ew, ifunny

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It is pretty true tho lol

cedar herald
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lol

crimson scroll
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srgrafo's a good artist

tough hazel
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im just trying to get into it now because my 2013 laptop cant even handle a simple roblox game while in a discord call

crimson scroll
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i just pulled it from ifunny since it was the first result

cedar herald
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turn off hardware accel

crimson scroll
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dissing people for what game they play smh

cedar herald
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in discord

tough hazel
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its a decent test to see if you have a potato or not

gilded frost
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I3 550? πŸ˜‚

tough hazel
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ryzen 5 with radeon vega 8 internal graphics

cedar herald
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decent

tough hazel
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it a 1gb graphics card and i hate it

crimson scroll
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....that can't handle roblox?

cedar herald
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i have the same thing but r7

tough hazel
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barely can handle phantom forces

cedar herald
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tf

crimson scroll
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also, how can that be a laptop from 2013

cedar herald
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wat gen

crimson scroll
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the radeon vega 8 came out in 2017

tough hazel
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it was apparently built in 2013 but sold 2016

cedar herald
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sus

crimson scroll
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...

static pecan
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wat

tough hazel
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maybe its just a misprinted package

crimson scroll
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you should get exact model numbers

cedar herald
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well vega 8 aint bad

tough hazel
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vega 8 mobile graphics

cedar herald
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ik

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same

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i run like

tough hazel
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1gb graphics sucks

cedar herald
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70 fps in val all high settings

static pecan
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The Vega iGPUs are pretty solid as long as you aren't trying to play something on really anything about low-medium settings

crimson scroll
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the dates still aren't lining up

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neither is the performance

tough hazel
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but it is ironic how ive got 8gb ram installed but only 6.9 gb is usable

static pecan
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I've run a few AAA games like Battlefront 2 and Battlefield 1 at 50-60 FPS on medium preset with the Vega 10 in my laptop lol

cedar herald
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ye same

lament trail
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i have 16gb 15.9 is usable

static pecan
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at 1080p

tough hazel
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maybe the lenovo 330s is just a trashy laptop

cedar herald
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i have lenove ideapad 3

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ryzen 47 00u

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not bad

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7.5gb usable ram

static pecan
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If it can't keep the thermals under control or it can't deliver enough power to the chip then that would cause a reduction in performance

cedar herald
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yo is ryzen master legit

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i mean

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ryzen

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controller

crimson scroll
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yes but OC through bios is better

tough hazel
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whats bios

cedar herald
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coz master doesnt support mobile

static pecan
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It's good for monitoring stuff and doing some basic OCing, but if you're serious about CPU OCing then do it through the BIOS

crimson scroll
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basic input/output system

tough hazel
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so pretty much your stalking your pcs performance

crimson scroll
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that's such a weird way to think about it

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ibut yes

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"monitoring" system performance is the term typically used

cedar herald
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lol

tough hazel
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stalking is more formal

cedar herald
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aye

crimson scroll
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i prefer not to use terms like that because it diminishes their meaning elsewhere

cedar herald
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very sophisticated i see

tough hazel
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if it makes at least 5% sense in my sentence im gonna use it

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but the most likely reason its not working well is because it was a gift from my grandparents who used it before me for a while.

crimson scroll
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clean and repaste it maybe

static pecan
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Also wipe any bloatware that is probably installed or anything your grandparents put on it that you don't want or need

tough hazel
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they wiped the whole ssd before they gave it to me

crimson scroll
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*wipe any bloatware you installed

tough hazel
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nothing but the default apps

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how do you find bloatware

crimson scroll
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do you need it? keep it. do you not need it? bloatware

tough hazel
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idk what i do and dont need

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i mean ive got memes from like december 2019 on here so im gonna sort through those first i guess

cedar herald
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lmao

crimson scroll
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images won't do anything...

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static storage doesn't really affect your computer's speed

cedar herald
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just put em in ur google drive

crimson scroll
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on certain ssds with caching issues once you hit a certain % filled you will but

tough hazel
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whats google drive

crimson scroll
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for the most part, no

cedar herald
tough hazel
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i dont use google

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i use opera

cedar herald
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u dont have a gmail!??!

crimson scroll
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google isn't just a browser...

tough hazel
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gmail and yt are the only 2 things i use from google

cedar herald
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ye

tough hazel
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its the only important stuff

cedar herald
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and log in

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with ur gmail

crimson scroll
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i am sure you use many more of google's services

cedar herald
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ez

crimson scroll
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even if you don't know them

cedar herald
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15gb

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of storage

tough hazel
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why would i need to drive if i dont have a car

cedar herald
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smh

crimson scroll
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he's trolling or 13

tough hazel
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yeah sounds like bloatware ngl

cedar herald
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ever heard of the CLOUD

tough hazel
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idk man still sounds sus

cedar herald
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the CLOUD

tough hazel
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when did the sky even get mixed in with electronics

cedar herald
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alr ur just trollin

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imma head out

tough hazel
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onedrive does literally nothing but make it harder to access your stuff

crimson scroll
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nobody mentioned onedrive

tough hazel
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thats the only cloud thing i know

crimson scroll
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you're not using it right if it's making it harder to access your stuff

tough hazel
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im not a file type of person so i know nothing about messing with files

lean quarry
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Aaa thursday is my rival 600 gonna arrive

crimson scroll
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i don't know, is it?

cedar herald
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is it tho

tough hazel
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well now i wanna know, is your steelseries rival 600 gaming mouse going to arrive at your location December 3rd 2020?

static pecan
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These are the questions we all need answers too

storm umbra
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3060ti is equivalent to a RTX 2080 Super for $399 πŸ‘Œ

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I’m big happy rn

dusk drift
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Do you guys think like getting a 3060 ti is even possible

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Cus like scalpers

crimson scroll
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yes

dusk drift
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I'm gonna try getting one

crimson scroll
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your best bet is getting in on the discords or stockx that alert you when they're back in stock

dusk drift
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Ye I will do smth like that

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But also, do you think they'll sell on amazon?

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Cus like most probably I feel like but I have a hunch I'll open up amazon and just nothing there lol

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I live in EU btw

crimson scroll
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yes

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they'll sell on all the major retailers

dusk drift
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Niiice

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Thx :)

arctic delta
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I'm researching some case fans, specifically the beQuiet! Silent Wings 3 and I'm wondering if anyone here has them and can tell me their opinion on them. Also, do y'all think I should get the high speed versions or not? Info on that below

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the highspeed ones are obviously the ones with higher RPMs

crimson scroll
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too expensive

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if you're spending 25 bucks, just get the arctic p12 5 pack

arctic delta
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ignore the price, give me your opinion

crimson scroll
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or the equivalent noctua for your use case

arctic delta
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i dont want brown fans lol

crimson scroll
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there's chromax noctua

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i think the fans are fine but too pricy

arctic delta
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the reason im asking is for a friend who's main priority is noise

static pecan
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Silent Wings are pretty good, only real problem is the price. RPM is dependent on size. Bigger fans can move more air without having to spin as fast. Depends on if and how many 140mm fans your case can support vs how many 120mm fans and how many fans you're looking to add to the case

arctic delta
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looking at the P300A mesh, so 2 140s as intake and 2 120s as exhuast

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just fyi

static pecan
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Then you just answered the question lol. 2 140s for the intake and 2 120s for exhaust. In practical terms both sizes will have roughly the same amount of noise, which is to say not a lot of it.

arctic delta
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Yeah, do you think the arctic p12 5 pack that Saucy Raichu recommend are quality fans in terms of noise, Ive heard great things about them in terms of performace but dont know about sound

static pecan
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Can't really answer that. Only reason I said anything about the Silent Wings is because I've been doing a lot of be quiet! research lately as I'm doing my upcoming build inside of their 500DX case. and using their new 360mm AIO which comes with 3 120mm Silent Wings 3

arctic delta
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those are $2 cheaper

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and are louder than the silent wings

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according to PCPP

static pecan
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Noctuas and be quiet!s are generally the same in terms of performance and perceived noise from what I've seen. Both are great fans so it really just comes down to personal preference and whether or not you can find a deal or sale on one vs the other

arctic delta
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sick, ok thanks for your help!

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ill go with one of those 2 probably then

static pecan
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πŸ‘Œ

lucid glade
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The thing is, with Noctuas, you can't go off of just raw decibel numbers. The noise they make is in a much lower register than most fans, so it's a fraction as noticeable.

static pecan
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Which is why I said in terms of practical use the be quiet! and Noctua fans are about equal to one another in terms of how much noise you actually hear and how much air they can move

crimson scroll
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$2 cheaper is $2 cheaper, and comes with noctua warranty

lucid glade
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Yup. I'm going to have 16 Noctuas in my case, and don't expect to ever have any concerns with fan noise.

crimson scroll
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seems excessive

lucid glade
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Seems it, but it's not. Two 480mm rads, two 360mm rads and 2 exhaust.

crimson scroll
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yep, seems excessive

lucid glade
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Not for dual systems.

crimson scroll
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two systems in one case seems excessive

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there are few real use cases for that imo

lucid glade
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...and streaming is one of them. As is having one system, dedicated to video editing/all other tasks and one stripped down, dedicated to gaming.

crimson scroll
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why not go two cases though

lucid glade
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Because I didn't want two cases?

crimson scroll
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you just generally sacrifice thermal performance when you do two systems in one case

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but you do you

lucid glade
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Yeah... That's not an issue with this case.

devout wolf
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corsair 1000d?

viral echo
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when do u guys think pc parts will go back down from being so high rn

lucid glade
lucid glade
devout wolf
gilded frost
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Yeah the 2 thousand k desk

tall cove
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definitely not me sitting on nvidias website for the 3060 launch

tall cove
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idk why i did this im not ready for a new gpu lmao

lucid glade
gilded frost
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@tall cove you got it?

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Wow

tall cove
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Got it into the cart

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Chickened out

manic umbra
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rip wallet

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-$400

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πŸ₯Ά

tall cove
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its not even a Rip wallet moment, it would be rip my life because my parental units would kill me lmao

lean quarry
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Hey my friend found this pc at in a pawn shop

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Btw it is dutch

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Its 30 bucks

crimson scroll
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nice

cedar herald
crimson scroll
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ok

lean quarry
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I dont know the mobo btw

quartz lion
lean quarry
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Haha

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Iemand die ook nederlands is

quartz lion
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weet jij of de limited items nog gerestockt worde

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??

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haha

lean quarry
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Waarbij?

quartz lion
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ongeveer alles

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want alles is sold out

lean quarry
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Misschien 2022

quartz lion
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oof

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dat duurd lang

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duurt

lean quarry
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Haha ik weet het

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Ben benieuwd of iemand anders ons ook kan verstaan

quartz lion
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denk het wel

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is wel zo gezellig

tribal anvil
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Haha

crimson scroll
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english, guys

cedar herald
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ENGLES

lean quarry
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Engels?

crimson scroll
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read the rules

cedar herald
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ching cheng hanji!?!?

crimson scroll
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i hate dealing with 14 year olds

lean quarry
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Ooh sorry

cedar herald
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lmao

lean quarry
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Anyways

faint kite
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ok uhh im building a pc in february (birthday) for max $1,600CAD and i have no idea, can someone try making me a parts list for games at 1080p ultra settings or even 1440p while staying in the budget, im a big call of duty and battlefield fan so i need it to be able to run fine at a high enough resolution

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and im looking for ryzen

devout wolf
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Don’t plan so far ahead

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New products will have released by feb, and prices will have drastically changed

faint kite
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prices aren't stable here in canada

devout wolf
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Exactly

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Proves my point further

faint kite
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ok thank you

gilded frost
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Yeah Canada has their fair share of over pricing

quick rune
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MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO 10G
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING OC 10G

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Which one is better?

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Need a quick respond

lean quarry
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Most of the time there isnt much difference between them

latent totem
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I will have gtx 1070 and Ryzen 5 3600 is that good?

lean quarry
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@latent totem for what price did you found the gtx 1070 and thr ryzen 5 3600

latent totem
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Cpu 220€ gpu 200€

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@lean quarry

west marten
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Gpu price is fine ig, but you should be able to get a 5600 with 220€

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Or at least a 3600x

quick rune
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Is ryzen 9 3900xt good?

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Just got it

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Ryzen 9 3900 xt and 3080

crimson scroll
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depends on what price you got it for

quick rune
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I don't know

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Just tell me if it's a good cpu

crimson scroll
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what do you mean you don't know what price you got it for

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it also depends on what you're using it for

gilded frost
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It’s a good cpu and gpu but probably not worth it at the prices you got

crimson scroll
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the xt cpus are generally a terrible buy

quick rune
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how?

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and it was my dad that bought it

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for gaming ofc

crimson scroll
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yeah, bad buy then

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the extra cores help in a few games, but not much

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and the reduced clock can actually hurt

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plus you're probably spending way more money than a 3600, 3700x, 5600x, 10600k, etc.

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also, your father bought you a 3900xt and a 3080...and you don't know if it's a good buy?

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you should really do more research before getting something so expensive

quick rune
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he did the reasearch

crimson scroll
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then why ask here if you feel it's justified

quick rune
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because i asked yall

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idk what im saying anymore

cedar herald
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lol

crimson scroll
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it sucks to hear that i think it's a bad choice but a. maybe don't go looking for criticism then and b. don't put so much stock in what one person on the internet says

crimson scroll
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i'm tempted to believe it's another kid who's just putting out parts that are expensive to humblebrag

quick rune
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Nah

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My family is quite poor

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My dad bought these without me knowing

noble oak
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when every single GPU is mostly out of stock and has inflated prices

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literally the last part i need is a gpu and this happens

static pecan
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Hey same lol

quick rune
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same

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my gpu will arrive sometime 2021

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i bought it today so yeah...

noble oak
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I ordered a 2070S FE off of Best Buy, got a email saying it’s confirmed, then 10 days later it’s reserving item and it hadn’t shipped and will get cancelled in Nov 7 if it doesn’t ship

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so sucks

quick rune
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Yeah

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Hopefully I'll get the gpu quick

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Well there was like 100 People that bought before us so it's gonna take some time

gilded frost
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Clearly, you bought a brand new gpu

stuck pelican
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Can someone help me by making a pc part picker for record and streaming around $1300

crimson scroll
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you can switch out the case for something else if you want

stuck pelican
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Ok thx

crimson scroll
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if you are focused more on the editing part than the gameplay part, consider swapping out the 5600x for a 3700x, although i personally wouldn't

quick rune
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Do y'all think I will be Able to get my rtx 3080 i ordered?

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Or do i have to get something else

merry dew
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Hello! I am looking for a 2000€ build. I live in finland. Ordering from Jimms is possible.

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RTX3000 and zen3 pls

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(for gaming obviously,but the game I play requires 32GB of ram with all my custom assets so other than that you have free hands)

merry dew
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or an equivalent radeon gpu

gilded frost
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The most amount of ram I’ve seen being used in a game so far is 13 on ultra 4k mfs

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Oh Finland...

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@merry dew What retailer's do you have in Finland? Amazon , Newegg, are they there?

merry dew
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basically jimms only

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and verkkokauppa, gigantti, power

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no amazons

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or neweggs

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and Im not ordering abroad

merry dew
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ive seen some use 64 gigs

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but those are like massive amounts of assets

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prolly in the tens of thousands region

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oh I forgot my cpu coler

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cooler

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and the case is the Kolink K7

gilded frost
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You talk about needing more ram

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Maybe you should get higher clocked ram

manic umbra
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yea it does seem pretty low

gilded frost
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750 PSU should do

merry dew
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hmm the budget is exactly 1990.90 i think

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lemme check

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that costs 1717.60€

gilded frost
#

That M.2 Seem's a bit overpriced

merry dew
#

so ive got like 280 to spend

gilded frost
#

What??

merry dew
#

well its finland prices...aint anything better

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and its 1TB

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so

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everything is a bit more than it should here

gilded frost
#

Still... A bit overpriced, 1=1.22 I think it is

merry dew
#

because of the 24% vat

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the most near ssd would be the 660p

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piss off

cedar herald
#

lol

merry dew
#

anyways I need 1tb

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or more

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since im not getting a dogpoop 512gb ssd

gilded frost
#

1tb hdd?

merry dew
#

ive got that aswell

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photo editing and games

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and i think it is good price wise myself, so that is not the biggest concern. one that is mainly bigger is what cpu cooler and psu I should get

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for 280€

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and ill have to build it myself so watercooling aint an option

gilded frost
#

Well What games are you playing CS isn't too much

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Also, Cooling?

merry dew
#

plus ill have to work, so lightroom and photoshop

gilded frost
#

What kind of deal do you have for the 2tb drive

merry dew
#

uhh lemme see

quick rune
#

finland perkele

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finlandsvenska

merry dew
#

255€

merry dew
quick rune
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haha i love finlandsvenska

merry dew
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och du kan inte tala andra sprΓ₯ken hΓ€r, visa #rules

quick rune
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sorry

gilded frost
#

English?

merry dew
#

Yeah I told him to stop speaking swedish

gilded frost
#

Any 750 watt PSU should do perfectly fine a margin in that build.

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You should also get a cooler, whether a rad, or just a fan. Your choice. If you think of getting a fan put it in the chat

merry dew
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ill scavenge the OS off this puppy

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and the cpu cooler is just a tad off the max ht

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so i think itll do

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and the case is 42.90 extra

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In total 2043.20

gilded frost
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Send the case?

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The Cooler is to bad... But you won't be overclocking that thing to it's limits

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isn't

quick rune
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i just got a better pc for the same price

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32gb ram 3600mhz
MSI GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO 10G
Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe M.2
AMD ryzen 9 3900XT
motherboard i dont even know
some water cooler thats good but i forgot the name and i have 4 fans

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well not a better pc but a good one

merry dew
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not better

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since

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I will need the extra 1TB drive

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and I will not be overclocking the processor to its limits, no worries.

quick rune
#

whΓ€skt

gilded frost
#

Well the card is a bit better, cpu isn't.

crimson scroll
#

That case looks like it has mediocre airflow

merry dew
#

whats better and doesnt cost millions to me

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plus has atleast 1 fan and rgb

crimson scroll
#

check that list, i don't know what your prices are like

merry dew
#

Thanks

half pulsar
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can someone send me a website where i can build a pc

half pulsar
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ok

mint quail
#

Since my pc blew up what should be my next build

crimson scroll
#

depends on your budget and use case

merry dew
crimson scroll
#

what are you doing with the system again?

gilded frost
#

He said gaming

merry dew
#

gaming and photo editing

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I get like 7 games with the build

gilded frost
#

I wonder what that would cost here

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Probably 1800

merry dew
#

go ahead

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yeah

devout wolf
#

680 eur for a 3070? and a meh one too? oof

crimson scroll
#

that barracuda pro seems expensive

merry dew
#

finland is kinds meh with pricing, might be because of the 24% vat

gilded frost
#

Actually much less

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Probably 1500-1600

merry dew
#

if iits shit

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since I aint know crap abt which gpu is good

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and this is the most I wanna go

gilded frost
#

Okay.. Let's calm ourselves

crimson scroll
#

lets use this site instead of whatever you're using

merry dew
#

again

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thats the store itself

crimson scroll
#

yeah....

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and pcpp draws from multiple stores for a better deal

merry dew
#

no it doesnt

devout wolf
#

that is what pcpp is

merry dew
#

in finnish version its only jimms

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no other pc store

devout wolf
#

but finland pcpp only has jimm's

merry dew
#

literally

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exactly

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so im better off using their site

gilded frost
#

It's also much easier to navigate

merry dew
#

not rly tbh

crimson scroll
#

i can't navigate a finnish site so...

merry dew
#

yeah well you cant

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I can

crimson scroll
#

yeah

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so it's easier for us to help if we all just use the same site

merry dew
#

tru tru

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so, whats a better gpu for the same price

gilded frost
#

Google translate doesn't helo

merry dew
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since the budget is abt 2050e

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so

gilded frost
#

Well a bit but..

crimson scroll
#

honestly i would go for the 5600x over the 5800x unless you are super serious about editing and need those extra cores

merry dew
#

in % how much will the processing power differ

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and can I utilize the remainder for a better gpu

crimson scroll
#

and yeah you can do whatever you want with the saved money

merry dew
#

I think ill switch it for a Ryzen 5 yeah

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will there be much difference in gta for example

#

but whats a good gpu for the money that I have left after I switch the cpu

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I'm sorry if i'm being a bit annoying

#

Ive got like 200€ more wtf

crimson scroll
#

oops hang on

merry dew
#

yeah no hurry

gilded frost
crimson scroll
gilded frost
#

I'd build something like this for 2k personally

merry dew
#

as I said no aio or water cooling

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no clue on how to install

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and im not taking risks

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sorry

crimson scroll
#

230 euro for a b550-f?

gilded frost
#

Wait, damnit

crimson scroll
#

nah

#

too expensive on that ram as well

gilded frost
#

Yeah I just sa3

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saw

merry dew
#

wait

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oml

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that is so much better

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thank ylou guys

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ily all no homo

crimson scroll
#

ok i just updated mine with the fuma 2

merry dew
#

and there is no cpu cooler

crimson scroll
#

it comes with a stock cooler anyways

merry dew
#

yeah but is it any good

crimson scroll
#

the stock one? it's adequate

merry dew
#

or would it be worth replacing

crimson scroll
#

bit loud

merry dew
#

im getting 1999 euros for free

crimson scroll
#

yeah check the updated link

merry dew
#

since this is only a backup build if my laptop issue cant be fixed

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so

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ive got 2000€for free

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so go all balls for that price

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no need to save

crimson scroll
#

eh

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save the extra 90 euros and spend it on some games or something

merry dew
#

ive got pretty much all I want

gilded frost
#

Rust, gta

merry dew
#

and the gpu comes with 7 games

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plus the cpu with one

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so

gilded frost
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That'll take all 90 πŸ˜‚

merry dew
#

rust aint my deal

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and ive got gta

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does the mobo coome with flash bios

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since ive not got a Zen2

bold drum
#

just went to the jimms website and they have 3000 series available lol

merry dew
#

yeah

gilded frost
#

Yeah

merry dew
#

one good thing bout finland

bold drum
#

google translates the whole site for you too

gilded frost
#

Not perfectly

#

Far from

merry dew
#

yeah but its broken

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i tried it

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its not accurate

crimson scroll
#

it's easier to just use pcpp which is in english for us anyways

merry dew
#

yeah

#

wait a bit

gilded frost
#

?

merry dew
#

can you add the fractal designs 3 st fan set to that

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they work with mystic light

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so i can get rgb fans for like 75€

gilded frost
#

πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

merry dew
#

what

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i like it

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and its my money nonetheless

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plus

gilded frost
#

Well I'm not saying what to do with your money

merry dew
#

so i wont need games

crimson scroll
#

yeah you can add fans

merry dew
#

aight

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do i need controllers?

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or smn

crimson scroll
#

i don't know

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do you?

merry dew
#

this good?

crimson scroll
#

you know your game library

merry dew
#

fan controllers 🀣

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not game controllers

crimson scroll
#

oh

cedar herald
#

lmaooo

crimson scroll
#

if you use every fan, yes

merry dew
#

i will

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all 3

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no 4

cedar herald
#

hahaha

merry dew
#

since the case comes with 2

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so ill add one to the back

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and 3 upfront

crimson scroll
#

it has 5 total system fan headers

merry dew
#

so I wont?

crimson scroll
#

the fuma 2 will come with a splitter for its two fans

#

so you'll have 4 left for the 3 fans you're buying plus the 2 fans the case comes with

merry dew
#

tl;dr pls

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good

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ill add 3 front 1 back

crimson scroll
#

so...do the math

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4 sys fan headers left

merry dew
#

yeah :D

crimson scroll
#

5 fans

merry dew
#

but

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I am not forced to use the 5th one....

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so only 4

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3 am ones and 1 stock

calm forge
#

do you reckon my 650w psu would be enough for a 2060/2060s

crimson scroll
#

yes

idle bridge
#

I've been looking at building a pc for quite some time, and I feel like I finally know my budget and roughly what I want

#

I have about 2500 dollars to work with

#

And have been looking at Ryzen 5 5600x and something like a 3070 or 3080, but I would like to know what case you guys would recommend and what cooling solution you think would be best

crimson scroll
#

what are you using the pc for

idle bridge
#

Gaming

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in either high fps 1440p or 4k

crimson scroll
#

look at the p500a, lian li lancool II mesh, lian li o11 dynamic, cm td500mesh

idle bridge
#

I'll take a look

crimson scroll
#

there is no one best cooling solution

idle bridge
#

Oh yeah but like what you think would be best

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like a closed loop for the core and then air cooling or something else

crimson scroll
#

you could put on something like a fuma 2 and it would adequately cool your cpu while being very quiet

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and not super expensive

earnest herald
#

no

crimson scroll
#

?

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no what

devout wolf
#

??

arctic delta
#

Is there a way to tell which motherboards don't need a CPU of the older generation to update BIOS?

crimson scroll
#

there's usually stickers on the on-shelf versions to say what generation they support

#

otherwise after a certain amount of time it's fairly safe to assume support for the latest generation officially supported by that chipset

arctic delta
#

Are there some motherboards out rn that don't need an older CPU to update BIOS for Zen 3?

idle bridge
#

He just told you that you can usually read it on the info part...

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You could also ask a retailer

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like comment on a page "Does this support x CPU" or ask for the bios version

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Then you just check if the versions supports it by googling it

crimson scroll
#

i believe gigabyte has a 1.1 version out of some of their motherboards that denotes they're zen 3 ready

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but yeah, what noah said

idle bridge
#

@crimson scroll I took a look at some of the cases you recommended me, do you think you know some just a bit bigger

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Didn't really like the O11, feel like they went a bit overboard with the tempered glass

crimson scroll
#

p500a is pretty big, that's not big enough?

idle bridge
#

Wait lemme take a look at it again

#

it was like midnight when I last read it

crimson scroll
#

it sounds like you want an atx full tower

idle bridge
#

Ye

crimson scroll
#

can also look at the meshify 2 xl, phanteks enthoo pro 2

idle bridge
#

p500a is a medium i think

crimson scroll
#

it's a very large mid tower

idle bridge
#

phanteks enthoo elite is expensive lol

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I remember looking at it once, then looking at the price

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same with corsair 1000d

crimson scroll
#

atx full towers are big...

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they have a lot of material and tooling

idle bridge
#

True

crimson scroll
#

they're all gonna be expensive unless it's from like diypc

idle bridge
#

yep

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I can't quite find out of if the enthoo pro 2 has a dust filter or not

#

would you happen to know?

crimson scroll
#

on the top, bottom, and front, yes

idle bridge
#

How about the side?

crimson scroll
#

no

idle bridge
#

then I'll have to make that output if I buy it...

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it appears to have pretty good front IO

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4 usb 3.0 and one gen 2

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The price is pretty ok too

#

just under 200 dollars

#

Ok I think I found the one

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Thank you man

crimson scroll
#

np

idle bridge
#

❀️

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(No homo)

crimson scroll
#

you don't even know what gender i am

static pecan
#

@arctic delta Gigabyte X570 and B550 boards have a feature to update the bios through USB. Basically you just need to download the BIOS file from Gigabyte's website for whatever board you have and follow the instructions on the website to properly set it up on a USB drive, then plug the board into your PSU, stick the USB into the properly labeled BIOS flash USB port, press the Q Flash + button (it'll be in different places on different board models) then it should automatically flash the newest BIOS onto the board so you can just plop in a Zen 3 chip and get up and running

arctic delta
#

sick

crimson scroll
#

do all of their boards have q flash?

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also gigabyte isn't the only manufacturer that has that feature

static pecan
#

I think they might, but I know for a fact all their AM4 500 series boards do

crimson scroll
#

even the b550m ds3h?

static pecan
#

I never said they were, they're just the only ones I know of

crimson scroll
#

yeah i just didn't want reign to think that he had to go with gigabyte for that

static pecan
#

Yes, the DS3H has the Q Flash feature

oblique nova
#

Is it safe to buy pc components from ebay?

crimson scroll
#

depends on the seller

#

but yes, with ebay's heavy focus on buyer protection it's pretty safe

static pecan
#

If you're buying parts from eBay though, best practice is to always ask for verification that what you're buying actually does work, and if they refuse to accommodate any kind of verification, even if it's just a picture, find another seller because that's a major red flag

crimson scroll
#

there's also official stores on ebay that are actually better to buy from than the actual store

#

for example, newegg

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because ebay forces them to actually provide cs

static pecan
#

True, also it's generally pretty safe to buy new products off of eBay, but when most people buy from eBay they're buying used stuff which is where the verification stuff can be a problem

lucid fog
#

I have a question thats been on my mind, maybe someone that works with display/pannels can ansaw this for me
my monitor are LCD TN my question : is it better to have a low contrast with high colour ( RGB temp )
or high contrast with low RGB temps

i ask this because my samsung default to 50 RGB with 80 contrast
but my BenQ default at 50 contrast and 100 RGB

it make me think they both have the same effect ( how bright the RGB pixel can go )

crimson scroll
#

for different panels and software, 50 contrast may not be the same

#

it's just whatever panel has more accurate colors and more nits of brightness if you're looking for purely color accuracy

lucid fog
crimson scroll
#

okay

#

so...what's the issue

lucid fog
#

on my samsung is at 41 RGB with 100 contrast but i can swap it by setting the contrast to 0 with 81 RGB it both looks the same
my question is that do the RGB temp the same as contrast if the RGB control how bright the pixel can go ?

crimson scroll
#

no, those are different settings

#

contrast is not brightness

lucid fog
crimson scroll
#

thats....still brightness

#

contrast relates more to how dark the blacks go

lucid fog
crimson scroll
#

okay so the actual way contrast is defined on monitors is a contrast ratio

lucid fog
#

ye, how much diffence from black to white

crimson scroll
#

it relates the ratio of the brightness between the brightest white and darkest black

#

but if you turn up the brightness

#

you're still not making the black "lighter"

#

whereas if you turn the contrast ratio all the way down

#

everything gets washed out to almost the same color and thus brightness by extension because of how the contrast ratio works

lucid fog
#

soo then how is one ment to know if they are close/reach the pannel limit ?

crimson scroll
#

panel limit of what

lucid fog
#

idk dont know how to explan it well enouth, i always tho thats the way contrast works was telling the RGB pixel ( here is the how much more or less bright you can go, and brightnass was how much backlight from the display

when doing a brightness test, the only diffence for me was how birght image is ( everything )

crimson scroll
#

yeah

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the overall effect is just brightness for the most part

#

you might notice some sharpness differences as well

#

on lettering for example

lucid fog
#

Ok, soo here 1 thing.

right now both my monitor cant display 254 White ( i know 255 is the limit ) but i am unable to see 254 no matter how low or high the contrast/RGB or brightnass

gamma has 0 effect to

but the image display fine on my iphone

#

i can just bearly see 254

crimson scroll
#

okay

#

so your iphone screen is better

lucid fog
#

πŸ˜‚

crimson scroll
#

that's not...surprising

#

they use samsung panels and tune them pretty well

lucid fog
#

would kinda think my samsung monitor would be fine to because its samsung

#

πŸ˜‚

crimson scroll
#

okay i should specify that samsung makes many panels

#

some are going to be better than others

lucid fog
#

i wonder if its common that many TN monitor cant display 254 white

crimson scroll
#

TN panels don't have good contrast compared to IPS, in general

#

and VA usually has the best

lucid fog
#

dont VA have worse response time ??

#

and IPS

crimson scroll
#

i mean

#

technically yes

#

will you notice? probably not

#

there's a lot of minutae

lucid fog
#

i know for me on my 2 display i can feel ( see the diffence in response time
5ms vs 1ms GTG

crimson scroll
#

that's not really 5ms vs 1ms

#

most panels advertised as 1ms aren't really that

#

also

lucid fog
#

thats why some company talk about GTG or BtW response time

crimson scroll
#

even on a 240hz monitor your time to change is 4.167ms

#

and

#

there's also input lag

#

not just the time it takes to change gtg

#

and monitors often need to use overdrive which causes a % overshoot

lucid fog
#

if i said that i can feel a diffence from 500 FPS and 900 FPS on rhythm game would you belive me

crimson scroll
#

i would say it's possible but probably due to something that isn't the actual framerate

lucid fog
#

frame times πŸ˜„

crimson scroll
#

some fighter pilots can see differences in 500fps

#

i doubt you actually can

#

it's something else

#

the difference between 500fps and 900fps is 0.9ms

#

that is imperceptible to humans

lucid fog
#

well on the game it tells me how much ( frame time ) or input lag
if i play on my GPU it goes to like 1-2ms but when i play on my IGPU the 0.7ms and it feels soo much better

crimson scroll
#

frame time and input lag are different things

#

one is how long it takes for your computer to render a new frame

#

one is how long it takes your computer to process your input (and the peripherals), and then act accordingly

lucid fog
#

i think it is frame time my bad

#

not input πŸ˜‚

#

i do wonder how much FPS is the limit for human TBH

crimson scroll
#

so you're at 1000fps on your dgpu?

lucid fog
#

CPU IGPU YES

my DGPU NOPE i get around 500-600 or soo

crimson scroll
#

what gpu and cpu do you have

lucid fog
#

πŸ˜‚ its a mess

crimson scroll
#

sounds weird that you get more fps in whatever game this is on your integrated graphics

lucid fog
#

I7-6700HQ
950M 2GB Vram

anything 3D runs better on my GPU but anything 2D runs better on my IGPU

#

because of STUPID GPU Optimus!!!!

crimson scroll
#

anyways upper limit is probably around 500fps for the top tier of humans

#

but the recent monitor breakthroughs, while cool, aren't that noteworthy in terms of performance

#

if you're an esports pro sure

#

otherwise the jump from 60 to 144hz is way higher than 144 to 240 or even 360

lucid fog
crimson scroll
#

eventually sure

lucid fog
#

place bet πŸ˜‚

#

give it 4 years

crimson scroll
#

i'm not a betting man

lucid fog
#

i'm joking

crimson scroll
#

i know

#

there are already panels that have higher refresh rates than 500hz anyways

lucid fog
#

Ye i think if i remember right Nvida showed off a 1000Hz monitor at a show effect a few years back

#

ohhhhhhh @crimson scroll I understand now πŸ‘ just read an article talking about black/contrast/brightnass/RGB
talking about the things i actully tho πŸ˜„

#

Thanks You

mint quail
#

Uhh I accedently bent one of the lines on my cpu

#

It doesn’t go in my motherboard anymore

crimson scroll
#

get a mechanical pencil, straighten it out

crimson scroll
civic apex
#

hey guys, i’m upgrading my pc which i got for free and have a budget of about 150 to 200 dollars. i’m mainly thinking of getting a gpu and some more ram. what parts should i pick out? i really don’t play much besides minecraft.
my pc specs
core i5 6500
4gb ddr4 2133
500 gb hard drive
300w psu w/ no pcie power

merry dew
#

get a ssd for gods sake

#

USA, right?

#

just snatch a 1tb m.2 ssd and 8 gigs of ram

#

itll speed up your experience a lot

#

maybe a single 8 gig stick?

crimson scroll
#

a 1050ti, SSD, and jumping to 16gb ram sounds doable on that budget

merry dew
#

oh I forgot the us prices :D

#

if buying used is an option shouldnt he snatch a 1660?

crimson scroll
#

you'd be going used

merry dew
#

oh yeah

#

whats the prices for 1660 (used) on avg there?

crimson scroll
#

also a 1660 needs a 1x8 pin pcie

#

his psu doesn't have that

merry dew
#

oh yeah

#

good god that pc is antique

#

oh my lord time flies

crimson scroll
#

anyways, you're looking at maybe $40-45 for 16gb 3200mhz ram, around $50 for a new nvme ssd assuming your mobo supports it, same price for sata anyways, and that leaves around $100 for the 1050ti

merry dew
#

i remember being hyped for skylake XDD

crimson scroll
#

i would aim for $80-90 on the 1050ti actually

devout wolf
#

finally moving to cypress cove

merry dew
gilded frost
#

@crimson scroll 40 bucks for 16 , Cl, 3200 ram?

crimson scroll
#

sure, why not

#

i'm talking used

gilded frost
#

Ah

crimson scroll
#

anyways we could go new on a sale, get the same ram for 50-55 and still be on budget

gilded frost
#

Someone’s selling it, bid is at 22 right now few hour’s left lol.

crimson scroll
#

i don't like going off bid prices

gilded frost
#

Whenever I look up 16gb ram it just pops up with all the sponsors

crimson scroll
#

i use r/hws for my pricing

#

it's usually more in tune with how prices should be

#

4 hours ago, 3200cl16 micron E-die for 60 shipped

#

somebody's selling a single stick of 16gb 3200 gskill for 45 shipped as well

gilded frost
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Wow

civic apex
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thank you guys! it really sucks my psu has no pcie power. it’s an hp pro desk 400 g3 so i’m probably going to just get some ram and an ssd and keep my old hard drive as a 2nd drive. i’m waiting for christmas so i have some money for a gpu

idle bridge
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cause my "pc" is a 4 year old computer, with some bruh moment stuff in there

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Core: i5-6200U (With integrated graphics unit)
GPU: Radeon R7 M360 (Cries internally)
Ram 12gb ddr3 (Cant remember speed, but pretty slow)
Storage: 464 gb harddrive (Used to be 500gb, but the old one broke, and lost all my data)

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Dunno how much power it sucks, but shit def runs like a furnace, I would probably be able to cook meat when I fire up Minecraft 1.8, graphics to lowest possible at 1080p, and I still only run 50 fps when it's cold, after which it warms up and drops to like 35-45. (FPS is pretty unstable, I've seen it go from 55, to 47, to 35, back up to 50)

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That's why I am building a new pc

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Am just waiting for all the parts I want / need to be in stock 😐

mint crypt
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U has bad computer but don’t worry I play csgo with 15 FPS u should be grateful

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U have a pc

sweet estuary
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bro I literally have a 2018 macbook pro

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it has 4 core cpu and gpu with an intel i5 and 8g of ram

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and I can play csgo at a solid 60 fps and not lag at all

cedar herald
sweet estuary
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lol

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just saying since twistedcodes said he runs csgo at 50 fps

versed pilot
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Dunno about ya'll but my Optoplex 7070 with an i5 9500 and a GTX 1650 low profile version paired with overkill 16gb Crucial Ballistix 3600 running at 2666mhz is doing pretty fine so far... maybe due for a cooling update tho

gilded frost
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Some of the worst pairings known to man

crimson scroll
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you haven't listed a cpu

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and what price you bought/are buying it for, and use case

devout wolf
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...goodram?

lean quarry
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A320m, GTX 1050 Ti, amd ryzen 3 1200, 8gb ddr4 2300

devout wolf
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what about em

lean quarry
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their like 50celsius idle

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and like 60 when playing roblox

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is this a battle who has the worst pc?

mint crypt
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Um I have a AMD Athlon 64 Dual core
2 sticks of 1 gygabyte of ram
200gig hard drive
And a 300 watt pcu (288 to be exact )

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Need proof ???

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Oh and Nvidia GeForce 6150 le built into the motherboard

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Hmmmmm???

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Battle of worst pc

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Ask for proof I give it

devout wolf
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oh god not again...

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we get it

mint crypt
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K

balmy grail
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twisted, that pc is essentially like having a 160 lightlevel character in destiny lmfao

sweet estuary
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1 gb of ram

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F

idle bridge
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Ight imma send one of my dads pcs

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Wait i cant find the pics rn :/

crimson scroll
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wrong channel for that anyways

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also it's annoying when people compete whether it's to increasingly show more expensive parts or cheaper parts

faint kite
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i have uh CAD1500 to work with to build my first gaming pc (i've been using a laptop) can someone uhh find me a parts list that could work for my budget (specifically in canadian dollar)

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you can dm me or tag me

crimson scroll
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part prices right now are super bad, especially in canada

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280$ for a 3600, yuck

devout wolf
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it's the apocalypse again

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motherboard prices messed up too

lean quarry
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Without talking about the prices for wich aio should i go:
EK - AIO 360 D-RGB
Or
NZXT Kraken Z73

crimson scroll
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EK-AIO 360 imo

cedar herald
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i mean u got the looks with the z73

lean quarry
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But what about thermals

crimson scroll
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stil ek-aio

devout wolf
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ek-aio by a long shot

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and it's better for ryzen because it's not an asetek on chiplet type beat

idle bridge
crimson scroll
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honestly? i don't give a shit

cedar herald
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i need the best prebuilt under 2k

crimson scroll
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it's probably gonna be powerspec

cedar herald
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tf is that

crimson scroll
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...a prebuilt product line

devout wolf
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microcenter's in-house brand

crimson scroll
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not even that...just...use your logical reasoning skills?

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you ask for a prebuilt, i mention something that you don't know what it is, but since i'm probably responding to you...it's probably a prebuilt

lucid glade
devout wolf
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cpu block?

lucid glade
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@devout wolf Coolant temp/flow/quality sensor. Super hard to find, currently, as they haven't made it stateside yet. Had to order from the manufacturer in Germany.

devout wolf
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i see

lean quarry
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@noble oak what do you mean

crimson scroll
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Hella overpriced on some of those components assuming you're in the us

calm forge
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32gb of ram at 3600mhz for only 75?

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wtf where you getting them

static pecan
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Still wanna know what "goodram" is though πŸ˜‚

crimson scroll
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could be 3600cl19

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also goodram is a brand

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polish company apparently, looks nice. kind of like my old tforce vulcans with the semi exposed heatsink look

devout wolf
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those are some pretty sticks

fluid fern
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ram? in this economy?

crimson scroll
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this economy has been very good for ram

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you can pick up 16gb 3200 for $50 on sale

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compared to 16gb 3000 for $120 a couple years ago when i first built

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ssds are also tanking in price

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processes are maturing and flash is cheap

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cpus and gpus are expensive and rare, sure

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but it's always an oscillating cycle for parts

solemn bolt
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Anyone got good Ryzen 5 3600 pc build recommendations for beginners to mediocre players?

crimson scroll
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what do you mean by beginner to mediocre player

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also what's your budget

solemn bolt
crimson scroll
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well i would say from a financial standpoint, you should know how much you can spend first

rapid stream
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budget is literally the most important thing to know

crimson scroll
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but anywhere from 1 to 1.5k usd will get you a nice pc that can be upgraded fairly easily in the future

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if you don't want to spend that much now since it's your first pc

rapid stream
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thats enough ^^

solemn bolt
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yeah, ok

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i was around 1.6

rapid stream
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if you spend 1k+, you can also go for a better cpu

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stock situation for gpus is... poor rn

solemn bolt
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true

crimson scroll
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graphics performance is more dependent on gpu so

rapid stream
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but id get a 3070 with that budget

crimson scroll
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generally the recommendation for those on a budget is to spend less on the cpu and more on the gpu

rapid stream
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but youre not with 1-1.5k

crimson scroll
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you see pretty much no performance gain in fact upgrading your cpu past the 5600x, in most games

rapid stream
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well, true

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but who knows if you dont wanna start video editing etc at some point ^^

crimson scroll
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that's where the upgradability comes in

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don't buy for the 5% chance

solemn bolt
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mhm

crimson scroll
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buy for your needs now and leave your options open

rapid stream
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id go for a 3070 or one of the new amd gpus

crimson scroll
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i will note that zen 3 is the last set of cpus that are officially supported on the am4 chipset

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so the upgradability part now is limited to same gen, exactly the same as intel

rapid stream
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since theyre not really in stock rn, you will have to wait a few weeks or months though, depending on your luck

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but dont make the mistake of getting an old gpu, theire pretty much all overvalued rn

crimson scroll
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i agree

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unless you go used

rapid stream
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even then, at least with your budget

crimson scroll
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a 2080s for around 500 isn't bad

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and it would be right in line with the caliber of gpu you'd expect to get at that budget

rapid stream
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you could get a new 3060ti with better performance if it was in stock for 400