#💻-building-a-pc
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no one is responding and i dont really know to much
not great @elfin ember
The 9700k needs a better cooler
8gb ram is not great
better motherboard is a good idea
the 5600x beats out the 9900k in most games and the 5900x beats the 9900k in productivity and games
and yeah that's not a great build
9700k today is a bad idea unless you get it at the microcenter deal price of $200+20 off motherboard
also with a b365 you can't oc
Swap with 5600x and take out the cooler, reduce the price of windows 10 to 15
Get an extra 8 gbs ram
I mean there would be no point in getting a 5600x with a 2060
So looking to build a pc for other half. Basically he will be using his xbox series x for playing his games and soley using his pc for live streaming and editing videos for YouTube among a few other normal email reading etc hes into rgb too lol looking for list of everything really to give him a decent build. At the moment he has:
Ryzen 5 2600
Gigabyte 570x
Asus prime B450m
16 gb of ram
Sharkoon elite case
Obviously loads of rgb fans lol
Any changes? Upgrades? Also want it to look nice without breaking the bank!!
Please remember this isn't to play games on other than maybe among us 😉
what's your budget
and what gpu do you currently have
oh i misread that, you have a rx 570x
okay, this is really up to how much you wanna spend then.
@crimson scroll got about £1000 atm to spend but would like a little change left lol trying to do it cheapish his current one was around 400 - 450.
i'd go for something like a 5900x if you really wanna spend, 3700x/5600x if you don't, you can keep the b450m if you go with 3700x. the gpu might be a bit of a bottleneck when scrubbing through premiere or vega or whatever but it should work fine. If you're working with big video files, consider going 32gb instead of 16gb ram
most of the elite sharkoon cases look like they have mediocre airflow; you could get the p400a drgb for lots of rgb included fans, or something like the nr600 and swap in your current fans, not sure what model they are so performance is unknown but it should be good enough
3700x beats out the 5600x in transcode and if you go used they are around $200-250, new is around $300, should be similar in pounds
@crimson scroll ok that sounds like a good starting point. I could upgrade the amd was looking at ryzen 5. Do u think the graphics card would need an upgrade? Bearing in mind cod is run through xbox series x. Forgot to mention he has hp 27xq and another one similar 144hz monitors already. He is a cod player predominantly.
i think it's okay to keep for now on a budget, you could maybe look at selling it and upgrading to a used 1080/ti
going from the r5 2600 to the r7 3700x gives you 2/4 extra cores/threads for video editing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ i recommend using this to keep track of your parts list, it can check for some compatibilities, checks prices on some large retailers, etc.
@crimson scroll 1080 ti or super better. Would he be better getting a gpu with nvidia encoder? Seen though he's treating or would cpu be ok once upgraded to cope with his cpu encoding only?
since you're using the pc as a stream machine only, the 3700x would be able to encode just fine (unless you happened to be running some video editing/rendering at the same time). The nvidia encoder is better than amd's, but on modern cards they'll both be plenty good enough
the 1080super doesn't exist, i was just throwing out the 1080 or 1080ti as potential gpus to look at that would be in your budget
overkill for among us on that PC for sure though
I'm gonna head off to bed but I check this pretty regularly so just post and i'm sure somebody will help you or i'll see it in the morning
@crimson scroll cool cheers for the info!!
@crimson scroll added as a friend so I can stay in touch for help if u don't mind
Anyone know a good GPU which works well with the Ryzen 3 3300x? I need to to be pretty budget (im not sure how much it should be as I dont have much experience with the "average price of a GPU")
Is this one better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ly7pK3
do you really think you need water cooling on a i7
AMD RX 5600
I would buy windows online and leave it empty on the partpicker
real cheap, search on G2A or Gamivo
Do you think the 3300x is a good CPU tho? I was told it was budget and handles well but im not sure.
im very new to the PC building stuff so I have no clue about much.
@finite badger Ok thx
hmm what is your budget?
No I meant like $100 more/less than $800
ohhh haha okay
3300x is the best budget cpu but the only thing is 4 cores😬
it depends on which sort of games you want to play on it
for the price, the 3300x is a good processor but not for AAA titles
I was planning on playing lots of CS:GO and GTA V on decent graphics. I was also hoping it could run stuff like Forza Horizon 4 and Rainbow 6.
It will work but not look like "high graphics" or something
Is there any better CPUs still around the budget range?
Ryzen 5 3600 is a good one but clearly a lot more expensive
hmm
would you say this is a good bundle for it?
Yes!!
I have exactly the same motherboard
Im on a 3700x with a b450 Tomahawk max
Any complaints?
Hmm
I'm having crashes sometimes but that's because of my RAM i think
That motherboard has great reviews tho
Now you need a power supply and a graphics card
Does the CPU come with that stock cooler?
Yes
Ah cool.
I think I can work with that. The bundle seems like a pretty decent price.
and just a question about the motherboard. Do I need to have a PC which fits the usb/other imput sockets for it?
Im very new to building a PC so im not too sure how you do it.
Yes, if you can live with stock cooler (sometimes little noisy)
and just a question about the motherboard. Do I need to have a PC which fits the usb/other imput sockets for it?
@noble oak what do you mean by that?
Wait, so you know how the PC has like usbs and HDMI imputs etc. Is that supplied from the motherboard directly or is it connected to the PC case to the motherboard.
The 3600 has NO integrated video signal, so you have to plug them into the graphics card
oh ok
The back of the pc is your motherboard, the front of the pc (the case) is connected to the case
Back ports are faster
ah ok that makes sense
And the case is also connected to the motherboard (with annoying tiny connectors)
Which are slower most of the Time
At the bottom of the motherboard there are some small connectors for the case (RGB and USB ports )
I have a 3700x on a b450 tomahawk with a 5700xt
What case do you have?
I was thinking of getting the DarkFlash DLM21 MESH White Micro ATX
does that fit the motherboard?
@finite badger ?
sorry for ping
TG5 Pro RGB
Micro ATX case does not fit the motherboard
Because motherboard is An standaard ATX
Ah ok thanks for all the help
Np
It was much appreciated have a good day ☺️
You too🙂
any good 1000 prebuilts mainly for performance not graphics
pls
let me know if u can
what do you mean performance not graphics
Also pretty much any pre built is 100% not worth it for $1000. You're much better off building your own PC at that price point
i've had this discussion with him already i think
you can learn
that's like saying you don't know how to play fortnite so you'll never start
invest some time in yourself, you can teach yourself problem solving skills along the way
Its like legos eventually lol
oh ok
i will watch a yt vid
because i am scared i will mess somthing up
so that is y
This tutorial on how to build a gaming computer shows the step-by-step process of assembling a PC for the first time. This DIY guide to system assembly can be found in greater depth here: http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2370-how-to-build-a-gaming-pc-guide-2016-walkthrough
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two guides i recommend
i'm watching the review of the 6800 by GN and it looks like it slots in nicely between the 3070 and 3080/6800xt
weird to switch graphical display methods between charts though
will this suffice for crazy rendering and crazy video editing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8wxVF8
why the 3950x
threadripper is more expensive
5950x though
corsair ram, meh
i mostly like the rest
may want to spend more on a nice monitor for accurate color grading
will dp 1.2 be future proof for a 144hz monitor if i buy rn
and is hdmi 1.4 outdated
There’s hdmi 2.1 so very
dp 1.2 is outdated too
hdmi 1.4 supports 1080p 120hz
dp 1.4 can do up to 4k 120hz, dp 1.2 can do 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240hz
dp 2.0 is out, but just the spec. Not sure if any actual dp2.0 devices are out
so will 1.2 suffice for 144hz 1080p
yes
So ive decided to get a micro atx motherboard with either the ryzen 3600 or 3700x (Since 3600 is expensive rn)
Should i got for a b550 motherboard or settle for one of the only x570 mATX motherboard:
asrock pro4
depends on ur gpu and storage
coz u really dont need pcie gen 4 unless those components run it
Just get a 5600x?
Yeah, at this point your best bet @rustic onyx would be to wait for the 5600X to come back in stock and pair it with a B550 board
thing is i wanna get the setup or at least order all the parts done by end of november
and i dont think its gonna be in stock by then
Do you need a computer before the end of November? If you don't absolutely need one I would wait
I mean, I'm ordering pretty much all of my parts this month while everything is on sale then I'm just going to wait till I can actually get a 5900X and RX6800XT
So how was the big Navi release?
How do the benchmarks compare to the 3070 and 3080?
AMD RX 6800 XT GPU breaks world record while overclocked to 2.65GHz – and without any fancy cooling is this good?
Or how good I would say
eh
i dunno about "beastly overclocking"
especially considering the stock cooler is mediocre
as for benchmarks, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLVGL7aAYgY
This is our review of the AMD RX 6800 XT video card, looking at RDNA2 and the reference cooler vs. the RTX 3080, 3090, 3070, RX 5700 XT, & more. Includes Smart Access Memory tests.
Sponsor: Crucial Ballistix RAM (Amazon: https://geni.us/eykEA)
Watch our AMD RX 6800 XT tear-down here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s7bOaa6X9E
Find the AMD RX ...
also, just because you can clock something high doesn't mean its stable or good
you can clock a 10600k higher than a 5600x, in general. doesn't make it better
Should i go for the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) or should i spend 40 dollars or so more on the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI)
l8200A vs I225-V lan, ac 9260 vs wifi 6 AX200, bluetooth 5.0 vs bluetooth 5.1, same audio codec, 3 more usb ports on the x570 pro
do any of those matter to you
also same vrms on both, the pro has better heatsinks, but the plus heatsinks aren't bad by any means
pro also has usb bios flashback and an internal usbc
And the other one?
also not a big deal unless you're overclocking a very power hungry chip
A rtx 3080?
nah
those will mostly draw power from their own pcie cables
i'm talking about overclocking a cpu
Amd ryzen 5 5600x
yeah
that's not a very power hungry chip
think about how parts draw power
the gpus almost all have external pcie cables
they also draw power from the motherboard, but only up to 75w
the cpu is only connected to the motherboard
it draws all of its power from there
Ooh so no big deal
so the only thing that really would need extra motherboard power is the cpu
the normal 8 pin cpu power will power nearly all consumer cpus just fine by itself
I am probably only going to overclock the gpu
5950x or threadripper?
depends on your budget and needs
1900x all the way, baby
ez pcie lanes
I have a 3 1200
Just in general what would be a better pick. Also do you think dual socket am4 motherboards will release any year soon?
Dual socket? Why dual socket?
i can't give an "in general" pick
they have to have qualifiers
for most consumers, neither
they should go with something cheaper
sounds like server application stuff
i mean there are dual socked epycs
and 4 socket iirc?
and xeon phi
or 8x e7-8894v4s
whats the most expensive you can get with a pc?
I think you can do better than that..

Got my mobo, ram, and both storage drives today for my new build. Just waiting for my PSU to come back in stock on amazon at the end of the month to order that + case and cooler. After that I'll just be waiting to get a 5900X and 6800XT
sick
Yee yee. Decided to go ahead and order everything besides CPU and GPU (obviously, lol) this month since everything expect the cooler has been at a 20% or more discount
case and psu?
be quiet! 500DX and a be quiet! Straight Power 11 750W @crimson scroll
nice
I'm also getting their new 360mm AIO for cooling. Unfortunately it's not on sale because it just released like a month and a half ago or something but has pretty solid performance for $120 + no RGB lol
the pure loop?
Yee
nice
noice
The only gripe I really have about it is that they didn't go with an RGB ring around the CPU block, they just made it a solid white, but since the pump design on the cooler is built into the tubes instead of on the rad I can plug the pump in separately from the LED on the CPU block so I can leave the LED off since I'm going for a black/purple color scheme
yeah, i don't love the weird shield on top
doesn't match the rest of the aesthetic
oh wow I’ve never seen that design language on any other be quiet product
they could’ve gone with the lines kinda thing that are on their fan blades
reminds me of the corsair AIOs tbh
a kinda square blocky thing where the coldplate is
minus the extreme amount of RGB pule you'd find on a Corsair block tho lol
it’s not that much
The new capellix block has a ton but qith the black cover it looks nice
i mean the nzxt kraken z series has 102400 pixels of rgb
Yeah I kinda wish there was a black option for the block on the be quiet one
Also true lol
Just plastidip
is this a good monitor it is onsale for 100 at my local bjs
For 100, not bad
lmao, howd u get the time to do dat
Not hard
Just add things pcpp lists
Can filter high to low price
And it filters compatibility for you
Also if you spam click it will keep adding until you let go, and then process all of it
i was all in until you said 5900x there after
???
?
?
What did you expect him to say?
something
Is this worth it? (868.4 USD if you need a conversion)
I am wondering if this is a good first ever gaming PC for me.
ehhhh
for 899 on micro center i saw a better prebuilt
idk if it is available where u r
tho
@cedar herald would you be able to give me a link?
If you don't have a microcenter near you it won't matter. They don't ship anything they only sell stuff in store
oh
You can almost build a 5600x / 3070 or atleast 3060 TI when it comes out with 900 bucks. Horrible deal
If they come in stock 😬
5800X is available on Amazon rn and lists stock as coming in December 23rd
Jacked up prices
I would pay 500 for the 5900x lol. Forget the 5800x
You’re paying an extra 150 to 200 (tax) then the 5600x . For what? 2 cores and 4 threads, and a mb more cache.
the X800x is usually an expensive X700x anyway
actually this is a deal they will ship my friend got one to florida
theyll ship it anywhere in us
@noble oak https://www.microcenter.com/product/630800/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gma9020cpgv2-gaming-computer
looks like zero airflow, 3000 ram with zen 2
thats good for a prebuilt at that price
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vtjFZZ the 2060 really isn't worth 360 so i guess technically you're getting it cheaper in the prebuilt, but lets be real. just pick up a 5600xt or 5700 for around 300 and it'll be the same cost with better parts
nice
pics in #archive-battlestations ?
oh phew
anyone here know a good motherboard that fits with 16gb ram 2x500gb samsung ssd i5 8600 and 1070 TI
budget?
would say b365 but buying a dead platform new is ehhh, look for used b365 or z370/90
yeah, if you already own the i5 8600 then what rafee said, if that's a planned build, it's a bit outdated
one thing i didn't think of, it's unlikely, but if both ssds are m.2, you'd need a motherboard with two m.2 slots, and it further depends on if they're nvme or sata
but if not, every consumer motherboard will have enough sata ports
PSU came back in stock a week ahead of schedule so I just ordered it and my AIO went on sale this morning too. Still waiting for my case to drop in price again, but seeing as how I still don't have a CPU or GPU, I have all the time in the world to wait on it lol
yarrak
sheeeee a 3090 for 1 dollar :)
what you guys thnk
lmao
ok
thats a suggestion
im kidding
well hydrated
you should geet a cooler
if u dont get a cooler then you will get burn burn
ah
what
i built my pc and it cost a few hundred more
i got rtx 1014
well only thing is i got a 2070 u got 3070
but ur build is good
if ur gonna do streaming
get ram
32gb ram
OK
cuz i play cod and stream and i open google to put music it lags
just saying cuz idk
what u think of the pc
:)
Meh AIO, would probably go 360 for a 5950X. Why are you going with a budget mobo for such a high end build? I personally wouldn't buy MSI because of what they do behind the scenes, but that's just personal choice. I don't want my money to support a shady company. Regardless, I would go X570 with that build. That SSD is extremely overpriced and for less than that you could get a 1TB Aorus, Corsair, or Sabrient PCIe Gen 4 drive. That case choice has pretty bad airflow and why the hell are you going 1080p with a 3090? At the very least you should be getting one high refresh rate 1440 monitor unless you already have one.
budget mobo? Lol
That b550 board is perfectly capable of running the 5950x on full blast
only difference between that and x570 is PCIe lanes
what cpu should i get insted of the i9 990k
Depends on what you're doing
ok
Yeah that build is a joke, no detail to what he’s using, giving non well thought out options. And putting a 5950x / 3090 in an NZXT case, you’ll get Fried.
does anybody know if the liquid freezer II 280 is too thick to be side mounted in the nr200?
yu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NJ34gt sff is so much harder to work with, thoughts?
i'm thinking maybe drop the fuma 2 for a 280 rad
Power supply is bit overpriced. Even for platinum , full, and 750.
it has no price for me honestly
pcpp working its magic again
i put it down because i don't know much about sfx psus
what's it showing for you?
277
Yeah when I saw it I figured pcp was screwing up again
what would you suggest
For PSU?
yeah
The supernova 750 P2
apparently there's a 3d bracket for atx psus you can print and cm wants to make a bracket available for order in 2021
Wow
but i'd probably want sfx over atx just for airflow purposes
also my list has pretty much zero prices
That motherboard has some badass ram over clocking
What’s up with pcp recently it’s just been getting worse by the day
But pc gaming race I guess, lol
it's just me though, apparently. Other people can see prices just fine
After I add them they disappear , just bizarre. Your PSU in stock at normal prices is around 170 to 190, but it OOS on Best Buy, Corsair, and new egg, so Amazon has the price jacked up to 277
It could be your region? If pcp even has access to locations
set to US
odd then
oh you know what
i bet pcpp changed the merchant list in my settings
marginally better
Hopefully you fixed in just then lol
If you’re going to go with a air flow based case, I personally wouldn’t get RGB ram sticks?
i'm not that into memory overclocking though...
Yeah lol, it’s just pointless after a certain point
I have bdie right now it's just pretty low ranked bdie
You need a cpu to support those speeds eventually
i'll probably want to ditch the hard drive and go to a 2tb m.2 or larger 2.5" ssd as well
Probably save some more money and read and write if you bought 2 1tb M.2’s
the drives in the list i already own
no point in replacing perfectly good drives imo
The motherboard has 2 M.2 slots ah
yeah
expensive
western digital sells a 2tb M.2 for $224
Samsung’s 2’5 ssds aren’t too badly priced
Their M.2’s are another story though
for a storage ssd, i'm thinking it doesn't have to be too fast, i'd be fine with even a bx500
it's more just the noise and size of my current disks
Yeah
2.5" is about credit card sized, 3.5" is sandwich sized
G skill sells cl 16 3600 (32gb 2*16) ram for about 125 . So 40 dollar less , without the RGB
i'm seeing it for 140
i do have access to microcenter
will probably go there for cpu+mobo, hopefully they have the one i want
They sell out quite frequently
Lots of great ram deals going around new egg
Some are 70 bucks off
yeah
Where did you find that ram? Team t force is selling a 2*16 kit 3600 but it’s Cl18, 104 bucks
Now they aren’t showing up for me
https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ i'm also checking against this
Find Samsung B-Die DDR 4 memory kits on Amazon, Newegg and many more.
Much easier
trying to go for dual rank kits specifically since apparently zen 3 benefits from that
good thing is looks like all the 2x16 are dual rank
Yeah modern ones atleast
Anyone know a good CPU cooler under $100 that pairs well with the R5 3600?
overkill would be stuff like the deepcool assassin 3, nh-d15, dark rock pro 4
slightly less overkill, the scythe fuma 2, scythe ninja 5, scythe mugen rev b, le grande macho rt
if you want cheaper, the hyper 212s (but still overpriced) or id cooling se 234/224
i am still judging your h510 but whatever
you dont judge someone for having a h510 if its their first build
no, i still do
i would have gone for the phanteks p300a mesh if i had known
i'm not judging you specifically for getting it, just judging the overall system
thats 100% fair
i wanted to get the NH-U12S chromax.black but its like 110 right now compared to the non black one
noctua is good, great quality, i have several of their fans
but so damn expensive
their worst product is probably their low profile cooler and it's still acceptable
yeah, i want that one specifically cause itll keep my CPU very cool and still very quiet, but i cant find the black version for less than double the brown one anywhere!
scythe fuma 2 is gray and black
id cooling se 234 is rgb and black
can turn off the rgb probably
http://www.idcooling.com/Product/productList/category_parent/25/category/63/name/SE Series lots of blackout stuff here
ID-COOLING offers a wide range of computer hardware products from CPU Coolers, Case Fans to Aluminum Cases. With over a decade's experience in this industry, we are dedicated to making more and more cool products for computers.
seems poor quality but i might take your word for it
Don’t see where it is poor quality @arctic delta
Anyone have an idea of the prices drop for Black Friday/cyber Monday? I’ll snag some parts while I can, maybe sell them later down the road for some profit.
What's a good website I can download Windows off of for PC? My friend doesn't wanna spend the extra hundred to get it
@deep scroll you have to anyway use the download media tool for windows, and put it onto a usb. Then you install it and they will have a water mark "unactivated windows" and you can get a windows 10 pro key nowdays for like 5 quid
hey @ripe crypt
yo
Hi! What Steelseries wireless mouse can I drag click on?
...what
Are there any wireless mice that I can drag click with that you guys recomend
don't...all mice...drag click
mouse shape is pretty personal preference
hard to recommend one to you honestly
cheif you just screwed this man over, i dont think any steelseries mice drag click like he's thinking of
yeah, but steelseries mice are not good at it, from the mice ive tried its not easy to do it on them
thats not drag clicking
then what is
yeah i cant do it well on the rival 3
is a rayzen 9300x a amd 4?
So many things wrong with that
Rayzen? 9300? Aam4?
Pretty sure anything besides Threadripper, that AMD (Ryzen) sells, is using an am4 socket. The most common are the Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7 , and Ryzen 9. You also have several low market cpus that are used in most prominently school products such as chrome books or cheap laptops.
i think drag clicking is based on the grip not the mouse switches or anything
How long will that member sale last on steelseries website
i can only upgrade one thing headset or monitor which do i upgrade
depends on what your current setup is like and what's more important to you
the left channel of my headset is dead and the only other one i have is hella uncomfortable but my monitor is 15 inches and 60 hertz
i mean i get a lot of screen tearing on my monitor and the only uncomfortable thing abt the headset is the earcups make my ears hot after long use
what's your current gpu and cpu
ryzen 7 4700u
oh a laptop
ye
what's your budget
150 for a monitor 50 for a headset
150 can get you a 1080p 144hz monitor
imo that would be more worthwhile than a new headset
wating for cheaper seller to come back in stock
i should have ordered it yester idk if i will get it before its sold out
As much as I don’t recommend pre builts, you can actually get them cheaper on new egg with their “black Friday” deals
Ryzen 3700x , 2070 s , 16 Tb ram, 1 Tb ssd , 1 Tb hdd
The 2070s itself is being sold in the low 800’a
noice
Can someone find me some fans to use? I really like these https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075VGN4M1?tag=georiot-trd-21&th=1&ascsubtag=pcg-gb-7115234403184344000-21 but my case has space for 10 fans... and that cost will add up quick
if it's worth it though I'll bite the bullet
do they have rgb?
yeah that's why I thought I'd ask here first
I was originally thinking about https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07FNKHDRS?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 but someone said that they're only for static air and not for airflow
idk
static pressure
they’re not only for static pressure, that’s what an air compressor is
but it is static pressure oriented
meh airflow but good pressure
praying that deepcool rf120m’s are available in the uk
I know it's really picky but I was looking for fans that still look like the corsair LLs (e.g. with a ring and not just the fans | or even with just a ring like the other ones I sent)
gelid stellas if they ship there
rip the only thing that comes up when i search that on amazon is thermal paste, the fan adaptor. stella artois and stella the tv show
just get the antec prizms then
they still perform slightly better in terms of airflow than the stupid LLs
i assume your case is the lian li O11
or a knockoff of it from another brand
yeah O11 Dynamic
Anybody knows a good single 140mm fan with rgb?
Aight
And the Antec Prizm 65.03 CFM 140 mm Fan?
I cant get those phanteks fans in my country
Netherlands
Thanks
what is a good cpu for a pc that i am building
depends on what you're doing with said pc and what your budget is
my budget is 1500
and the other question?
i assume you mean full air cooling versus a loop
both have advantages and disadvantages
oh gaming
5600x is my recommendation then
ryzen is beter
kind of a vague general statement
than i7
you're putting an entire product line against a more specific product line
and both still encompass multiple actual skus
there's so many different chips at different prices, with different performances in different segments
are you talking about the 3400g vs the 10700k in blender? what about the 5950x against the 8700 in decoding?
@crimson scroll the Ryzen 7 3700x is competing with that
competing with what
Guys I am upgrading to RTX 3090
Currently ia m have ing RTX 2090
Should I upgrade?
🤔
Yea sorry bro
I don't giv much ingest on the names of those things only the quality
@heady helm
is your 2080 underperforming?
is it not able to keep up the framerate your desire at the settings you want?
if yes: upgrade
if no: there is no reason to
me with 1660 super 
that's... not even a bad gpu
I doubt he actually has a 2080 and is getting a 3090 , incoherent sentences, doesn’t sound like he means anything he say’s. Unless he’s some spoiled child, which could be the case
Hey ive been wanting to upgrade from my gtx 1660ti to rtx 3080, but i see people saying amd is making a better gpu. What do u guys think?
Do you plan on using ray tracing?
right now i wouldn't say the 6800xt is a better gpu than the 3080
kinda trades blows at lower resolutions in rasterized games, slightly worse at higher resolutions due to lower vram bandwidth, and absolutely garbage in ray tracing
@steady crater the real question is, what kindve games do you play?
And what resolution do you play at
me with 1060 😡
And me with a gtx 1050 ti 🤬
we get it
me with vega 10 igpu
If we’re going to keep getting worse
nVidia Geforce MX440 DVI 64MB AGP Video Card 180-10117-0000-B00 - G0770
Beat it
Their selling the rival 600 for €600 why?
Ooh and the best thing, you get 20 cents off
there's plenty of overpriced products

@gilded frost iam not spoiled ok I just wanna have some help with graphics card it's not been woking properly when I play cod warzone in it it lags even I have asus rog stirs internet connection I am not spoiled ok!
Btw my dad told me adjust with RTX2080
Beacuse of u@gilded frost
Ihave worked so much hard to have that dude!
😫 
"asus rog stirs internet connection" can you elaborate
Your 2080 TI can't handle cod?
send your 2080ti to me, i can verify for you if it's working or not 
😂
He dad i need an rtx 3090 for online class
geforce 256
intel 4004
me with 960 😡
Hehe
5900X has been secured along with my be quiet! 500DX. PSU just arrived today so all that's left is to secure a 6800XT which I'll hopefully be able to do before January lol
and me with a 1050 with 2gb vram 😡
I'm currently on a laptop with a 3750H and GTX 1650 so I feel your pain
Not the right chat, not the right reason, no.
Ok guys my dad told me to adjust with RTX 2080 aww man iworked hard in college for this!
Wdym adjust? Don’t you already have a 2080?
lmao
You don't type like you're in college
And besides if you're in college, buy your own shit
Complaining about your dad supposedly telling you to stay on a 2080 because some guy on a discord told you so when you're in college is some of the most entitled crap I've ever heard
Maybe he did pay for it. If so I don’t see why he’s complaining about staying on it lmao
Actually if your in college idk if you can even pay for that lol. Maybe he doesn’t speak good English that’s why he doesn’t speak like someone in college
considering he's talking about having to ask his dad, i don't think so
it all sounds made up to me
Maybe he’s the kind of family that he has to ask his dad for everything major
I wonder if they don’t teach English anymore
i am about to get my hands on a 3070 founders edition and i currently have a r5 2600x as my cpu will there be a bottleneck?
and if there is a bottleneck then will overclocking the cpu fix it?

wow damn
idk
ask reject pikachu
or in the ltt discord
hey Im installing an m.2 ssd but I cant quite get my hand in there without touching the cpu cooler or gpu. got tips?
remove the gpu
a 2600x will bottleneck the 3070, how much will depend on res
and overclocking the cpu probably won't help that much
Maybe he’s from a country that doesn’t have English as their official language. Maybe it’s not their second language you never know.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got em.
congrats alan
Thanks. Newegg did a massive drop of all the bundles last night and I managed to snag one. I've bene watching live stock update streams for about a week now lol
late
do you expect instant responses from people in the discord?
no no, sorry if it sounded like that
wdym late then
what I meant is just that before he responded I decided to take more risk and actually managed to squeeze it in
and it seems to be working alright
well the gpu is ok
and the drive hasnt really got a reason to not work
so I guess it's fine
Anyone know a good cheap build they can send me the parts
you need to specify budget and use case
Is nvidea 2060 rtx good for minecarft
Thanks
would be nice if you included the key
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Hi! I'm trying to build a budget pc (preferably sub $1000) and would need any help on which components to get
what are you looking to do with the pc
I want to build a gaming pc under 1000$
pretty much just school and gaming
I usually play games like valorant and apex legends, but also play Assassins Creed every once in a while
I play on my laptop right now, but it's starting to struggle so I was thinking of getting an upgrade
Alright. Just need my EK distros, pumps and rads to show up and I'm ready to rock. About to embark on the largest build I've ever done, and my first hardline build. Figured if I'm gonna go, might as well go big.
God what case is that in
think big
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/#compatibility_notes I need to get this under 1000
You need to share the right link first
Up in the top left corner there should be a link that send us directly to your list
You don't need an AIO for a 2600. If you aren't doing any overclocking the stock cooler is more than adequate. If you're looking to save money then don't go with RGB RAM, especially not Vengeance. Look at kits from G Skill or Team Group for better quality and value. Why do you need 2 high refresh rate monitors? If you're only going to be gaming on one then you can get a cheaper secondary display. SSD is also overpriced. Look at the WD Blue SN550 instead. I would highly recommend at least a 500 watt PSU or 550 watt just to make sure you aren't putting too much strain on it when under load. You can find codes for Windows 10 cheaper online than buying it outright, but that's up to personal preference I guess. Same with my next point which is that I would personally avoid MSI because they have bad practices when it comes to independent reviewers and some other stuff like scalping their own GPUs, but again that's just personal preference.
Ok
I want the apex pro
But it out of stock if I buy the nordic one and then buy apex pro keycaps will it still be the same
well no cause nordic has the ISO-style enter key
which means there are two extra keys from the ANSI/US version
nice speech
Ye but if I keep the enter key is it the same
What is sse
What is the cooling difference between the ek-aio 360 and the nzxt kraken z73?
Would yall say its ok to get a 3600 with a 2080 ti, cause my friends brother who is supposedly a computer engineering is saying it is
And im thinking he's a software engineering or sum
sure
it'll bottleneck a bit but it's fine
what price are you getting those parts at though
Probably cheaper to get a 3080 from a scalper then a 2080 TI at normal price
Oof
Ye just get a rtx 3080 (if it is anvailable)
what do yall think of this list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jytM3Z
not necessarily
we don't know what they're doing with the system
that ssd is garbage tier though
and that case looks like it has very little airflow
he is probley going to use it for gaming
at $200 it seems like a bad deal
you can get similar ram for cheaper
motherboard is pricy if you're not using the features
3700x is a generation old, may be worth it if you need the cores
probably, but then you should state that assumption when talking about the ram
a 5950x is ryzen 9
seems like a stupidly overpriced cooler, a 10tb ssd should not be 350, even an enterprise drive
you can get exo/ironwolf drives for around 17-20 per tb
should probably go for 2x16 dual rank memory, you can get 3200cl14 for cheaper and clock it up to match flck or tighten the timings
corsair RM 80+ gold is 135 and i see no real reason to go platinum
The chances of using half of that hard drive are slim
depends on what you're doing
if it's a production build, which i can see that being, why not?
and my friend just ordered 3 16tb ironwolf drives to do a raid 5 nas with
he's currently already sitting at around 14tb full on his current drives
If he’s using it for gaming
Nuts, each of those things cost quite a token
@arctic delta you forget your gpu?
Could somebody help me? I have the AMD Radeon rx 5600 xt, and put it into my pc not to long ago. My games keep stuttering and I have no idea if its the game itself, or the graphics card. I've tried everything in game to fix it, changed my settings and everything (The games BO cold war and Modern Warfare) and it still stutters
is it just me or are the parts on pcpp higher than like last month
uhh how do I do that? I just got into pc's a couple months ago, sorry if this is a dumb question
search for 5600xt drivers
dang
the setup i wanted last month was only 600-700
the ryzen 3 3100 and the 5600 xt with the other stuff i wanted was 600-700 but i checked like rn and its 1000
kinda sad all 4 of my friends are leaving xbox
thats pretty normal
for prices to fluctuate
oh
welp
theres like no other 600-800 anymore that would run decently
maybe if i replace the 5600 xt with a 1650 or 1660
anyways that's close to 800
ryzen 5 3600?
yeah
i mean, yeah
if you can find a 3100 go for it
i just pulled that from a build i made other people
I just updated the drivers im testing it rn
The 1660 jumped in price because of scalpers. Not all GPUs went up in price. Some went down because of the new GPU releases
Can you find one thats gone down?
are the completed builds on pcpp good
you're looking on ebay...
lol
Yes, but ever since the 3080 and 3070 came out
People have been selling their 2080 ti cards for cheap
Nobody would buy a 2080 ti when you can get a 3080 for half the price
Thank you @crimson scroll my game does not stutter no more
glad to hear
True
you probably were running on default microsoft display adapter
I guess they went back up because they ran out of stock of the 3000 series
Not to mention I’ve seen people sell the card as paper, and got bids on it
a good value buy right now is the 1080ti used
i picked mine up for $315 and it had the accelero 3 installed
what is a cpu that is like the i9 990k
AMD ryzen 7 and intel 10700k
Kinda simular
what about the ryzen 9
im not very knowlegeable about all the pc stuff but want to build one
ok
Right now is a weird time to build a pc because parts are coming out and running out of stock so fast
Intel 11th is coming out as well so it’s going to be interesting what the benchmarks will be on that compadres to amd 5000 series
The direct competitor to the i9 10900K is the Ryzen 9 5900X @cloud mist
ok but what about the i9 99000
Ryzen 7 3700X
ok
I would save up a little more and get the ryzen 7 5800x tho
The 5800X is overall a terrible value though. If all you're doing is gaming then the 5600X is more than enough, and if you're doing any kind of productivity or creative work then the $100 step-up to the 12 core 5900X is pretty much a no brainer for a lot of people
Of course if we're talking in terms of current availability, then you can pretty much snag a 5800X off of Amazon at any time because no one wants them because of the terrible value lol
Not even scalpers want them anymore. That should tell you something
why is it a terrible value
Because 2 extra cores don't have a noticeable improvement in gaming performance and therefore there's no justifiable reason for spending $150 more than the 5600X, especially when an equivalent 8 core Intel CPU can be found for $20-$30 less than the 5800X and still get great gaming performance
The 5800X is just as bad value as the 3800X and 3800XT were.. It exists in a weird middle ground where its only real purpose is to get people to spend more money for equivalent performance to a cheaper CPU
ic
That's a very generalized and inaccurate statement lol
The average person does not need or would get any benefit from Threadripper
Especially not for gaming
And for a general purpose workstation the 5900X or 5950X make much more sense price/performance wise
Yes
the
ryzen 5 3600x
if im mot wrong was 210
but now is 260
almost same price as ryzen 7 3700x
the treadripper isnt that great for gaming tho?
compaired to the 5900x or 5950x?
Well if u wanna pay 30 times more
Generally the increased core count of threadripper can actually hinder gaming performance
If you want a worksation that can also game in your spare time then the 5950X makes the most sense
The ryzen tr is just generally overkill
wait does the tr provide integregated in board graphics?
None of the Ryzen CPUs that aren't labeled with a G after the name don't have graphics
i dont see why you would be using OBG when you are spending that much on a cpu
Ryzen 3 what?
i want to build a 5950x with a 3090. thats going to be my next build.
U must be rich
@zealous rune I'm not sure right off hand. Look up reviews if you want a real answer
Ok
i dont want to buy a 3090 right now though because the prices are way to high
i think i will just wait till next year
Unless you need the 24GB of VRAM for like 3D modeling stuff or whatever then you might be better off with the rumored 3080TI if it actually becomes a thing sometime next year
Or the RX 6900XT
im pretty sure the rumored 3080 ti will have 20gb of vram
Ryzen 7 3700x, 32 gb ram, 1 tb ssd..... i dont want to buy a gpu and wait till next year
and the 3090 will most likley out perform the 3080 ti
but now i realized the r7 doesnt have on board graphics
But it'll probably be closer to $1000 to compete with the 6900XT
The 3090 barely outperforms the 3080 as is, the 3080TI will most likely come pretty damn close to, if not match the gaming performance of the 3090 for a much better price/performance value
?
@static pecan wait so my build ryzen 7 3700x, 32 gb ram, must need a gpu if i wanted to play cod and r6 ?
It needs a GPU if you want to be able to use a monitor at all lmao
But then the ones with the g at the end dont?
@noble oak the difference between a 3090 and 3080 in gaming is like + - 10 FPS, definitely not worth the $800 premium for the 3090
depends what game
@zealous rune If it has a G at the end of the name it has integrated graphics. They typically aren't great for gaming but they would be able to run COD and and r6 at 40-50 FPS on 1080p low settings
@noble oak If you want to waist $800 more on a 3090 for a few frames then be my guest, all I'm saying is wait for RX 6900XT and 3080 TI benchmarks first
they are rumored tho
My friends build was ryzen 5 3400g, 16 gb ram, 2 tb hdd... but no gpu. Is there something flawed with this build? Its total price is 500 usd but it must be 500 if he wants to keep his budget...
they arent official
The 6900XT is launching in a couple weeks lol. The 3080 TI is rumored, but there have been leaked investor slides and such indicating its existence. Besides that, Nvidia will obviously want to compete at the $1000 price point of the 6900XT
3080ti was rumored days after the release of the 3080.
But again, my point is to just wait and see, but if you want to blow another $800 for a few more frames then be my guest lol
I think nvidia will do better at ray tracing than the new amd cards
They obviously do lol. Have you seen any benchmarks at all? The RX cards get absolutely dunked on in RT lol
But honestly the performance hit from RT even on a 3080 and 3090 is still to great IMO to make it worth the kinda money Nvidia is charging for it
thats why i think nvidia justifies the higher price point of the cards
But AMD also doesn't have their DLSS competitor out yet either which will improve the RT performance, but it will still fall behind 30 series
the price point is better then it was with the 2080ti
Well yeah that's obvious lmao the 2080TI was a ridiculous price, especially now when the 3070 is basically just a 2080 TI but at $500 instead of $1200
you dont get nearly as much vram but ur right
True, the VRAM is the big thing that turned me off of the 3070
That, and I don't care about RT lol
even with DLSS i on amd cards i dont think they will compete with nvidia ray tracing performance
I don't want a 30-40 FPS reduction just for prettier shadows and water
i forgot what its called but nvidia works with these companies to make it run as smoothly as it does with their cards
im pretty sure thats why you see Nvidia RTX on certain games
True, but even with DLSS it's still way too much of a performance hit for me to justify buying Nvidia over AMD
Especially when both of my Nvidia cards have been crap lol
My 970 blew up after like 3 years and nearly killed my system and the 1650 I got last year died after 7 months and had to get it RMAd
Meanwhile the crappy RX 460 I got as a cheap replacement to my old 970 is still running like a dream with 0 issues 4 years later after pretty much daily use
- the 460 is overclocked lol
AMD just presents a much better value for me and what I care about
im kinda dissapointed that i bought a 2080ti a 2 months before the 3000 series came out. Its still a great card, but its annoying how much i spend on it compaired to the new cards price to performance
Haha yeah that was definitely not a smart move
i didnt believe the rumors that people were saying its half the price for better performance of a 2080ti
2 months later it was true
i really dont care because i couldent get my hands on a 3000 series anyways
i woke that morning of release and every site was sold out
im curious if the same thing will happen with amds cards
That was me but with the Ryzen 5000 release lol. I almost got a 5900X on launch day, but the site crashed every time I tried to finalize the order until all the chips were gone, and it took me literally the entire month of November of trying to snag one from random Amazon and Newegg drops before I finally snagged a mobo and 5900X from Newegg on Friday night and they're getting here Wednesday
AMD cards are already out my dude
And the launch of those was somehow even worse than Nvidia
The AIB cards launched this past Wednesday but none of them actually existed. Not even scalpers got any because there was none on eBay on the day of release like there was 2 weeks ago with the launch of the reference cards
The last thing I need for my build is a 6800XT and I'm hoping I can snag one through a random drop like I did the CPU before January or February lol
Yeah AMD cards have been out for weeks now lol. Have you just not been paying attention to tech news or review channels?
its a bit frustrating when they have all this hype and half the people cant even get them
i havent
More like 99% of the people can't get them
not on pcs
i have been researching the A1 chip for a bit
i only research release dates when i want to purchase something for myself
So basically you just want the best of the best and don't care what the price tag is or what reviews say about certain products then?
Anyone that isn't rich which is 99% of the DIY PC community
just because they cant afford it doesnt mean they dont "want" it
I do wonder how apple is going to do in the next couple of years if they keep making their own processors
their new chip is great considering its their first laptop cpu
get the b450m pro4, isn't it around the same price as the b450m ds3h
also i'd go for the nr400 or nr600 over that case
They can charge more for last gen since that's the only thing readily available. Prices on last gen parts won't decrease until probably mid-2021 at the earliest when supply of new CPUs and GPUs has leveled out to meet the insane initial demand
what would be a good budget friendly GPU on the market?
what's your budget?
can you recommend me some leds for the room?
Saucy Raichu
is this gonna blow up or nah
it is ok
so its gonna fit all together?
i'd say we need to get pins that mention you need to have a budget and use case in mind
but nobody would read them anyways
yes
the 9400f is old you can do better
h510 has no airflow
you wouldn't need a third party cooler for that cpu anyways
and that motehr board
is fine for that cpu
ok
i just threw together what was cheap and looked good enough
ok i took out the cooler and changed the motherboard
i say you should get a new case and if your budget provides change the 1050ti to maybe a 1650 or a 1660
