#💻-building-a-pc

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elfin ember
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this is the basic stuff

cloud mist
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no one is responding and i dont really know to much

stark vigil
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not great @elfin ember

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The 9700k needs a better cooler

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8gb ram is not great

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better motherboard is a good idea

crimson scroll
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the 5600x beats out the 9900k in most games and the 5900x beats the 9900k in productivity and games

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and yeah that's not a great build

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9700k today is a bad idea unless you get it at the microcenter deal price of $200+20 off motherboard

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also with a b365 you can't oc

gilded frost
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Swap with 5600x and take out the cooler, reduce the price of windows 10 to 15

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Get an extra 8 gbs ram

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I mean there would be no point in getting a 5600x with a 2060

inland swallow
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So looking to build a pc for other half. Basically he will be using his xbox series x for playing his games and soley using his pc for live streaming and editing videos for YouTube among a few other normal email reading etc hes into rgb too lol looking for list of everything really to give him a decent build. At the moment he has:
Ryzen 5 2600
Gigabyte 570x
Asus prime B450m
16 gb of ram
Sharkoon elite case
Obviously loads of rgb fans lol
Any changes? Upgrades? Also want it to look nice without breaking the bank!!
Please remember this isn't to play games on other than maybe among us 😉

crimson scroll
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what's your budget

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and what gpu do you currently have

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oh i misread that, you have a rx 570x

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okay, this is really up to how much you wanna spend then.

inland swallow
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@crimson scroll got about £1000 atm to spend but would like a little change left lol trying to do it cheapish his current one was around 400 - 450.

crimson scroll
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i'd go for something like a 5900x if you really wanna spend, 3700x/5600x if you don't, you can keep the b450m if you go with 3700x. the gpu might be a bit of a bottleneck when scrubbing through premiere or vega or whatever but it should work fine. If you're working with big video files, consider going 32gb instead of 16gb ram

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most of the elite sharkoon cases look like they have mediocre airflow; you could get the p400a drgb for lots of rgb included fans, or something like the nr600 and swap in your current fans, not sure what model they are so performance is unknown but it should be good enough

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3700x beats out the 5600x in transcode and if you go used they are around $200-250, new is around $300, should be similar in pounds

inland swallow
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@crimson scroll ok that sounds like a good starting point. I could upgrade the amd was looking at ryzen 5. Do u think the graphics card would need an upgrade? Bearing in mind cod is run through xbox series x. Forgot to mention he has hp 27xq and another one similar 144hz monitors already. He is a cod player predominantly.

crimson scroll
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i think it's okay to keep for now on a budget, you could maybe look at selling it and upgrading to a used 1080/ti

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going from the r5 2600 to the r7 3700x gives you 2/4 extra cores/threads for video editing

inland swallow
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@crimson scroll 1080 ti or super better. Would he be better getting a gpu with nvidia encoder? Seen though he's treating or would cpu be ok once upgraded to cope with his cpu encoding only?

crimson scroll
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since you're using the pc as a stream machine only, the 3700x would be able to encode just fine (unless you happened to be running some video editing/rendering at the same time). The nvidia encoder is better than amd's, but on modern cards they'll both be plenty good enough

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the 1080super doesn't exist, i was just throwing out the 1080 or 1080ti as potential gpus to look at that would be in your budget

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overkill for among us on that PC for sure though

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I'm gonna head off to bed but I check this pretty regularly so just post and i'm sure somebody will help you or i'll see it in the morning

inland swallow
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@crimson scroll cool cheers for the info!!

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@crimson scroll added as a friend so I can stay in touch for help if u don't mind

noble oak
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Anyone know a good GPU which works well with the Ryzen 3 3300x? I need to to be pretty budget (im not sure how much it should be as I dont have much experience with the "average price of a GPU")

elfin ember
pine dove
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do you really think you need water cooling on a i7

elfin ember
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no but

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it would be better

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if i upgrade

finite badger
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real cheap, search on G2A or Gamivo

noble oak
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im very new to the PC building stuff so I have no clue about much.

elfin ember
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@finite badger Ok thx

noble oak
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around $800 aud

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give or take $100

finite badger
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100 for the cpu?

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that's little low but okay

noble oak
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No I meant like $100 more/less than $800

finite badger
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ohhh haha okay

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3300x is the best budget cpu but the only thing is 4 cores😬

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it depends on which sort of games you want to play on it

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for the price, the 3300x is a good processor but not for AAA titles

noble oak
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I was planning on playing lots of CS:GO and GTA V on decent graphics. I was also hoping it could run stuff like Forza Horizon 4 and Rainbow 6.

finite badger
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It will work but not look like "high graphics" or something

noble oak
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Is there any better CPUs still around the budget range?

finite badger
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Ryzen 5 3600 is a good one but clearly a lot more expensive

noble oak
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hmm

finite badger
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Most popular CPU at the moment

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Because of its price/ performance

noble oak
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would you say this is a good bundle for it?

finite badger
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Yes!!

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I have exactly the same motherboard

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Im on a 3700x with a b450 Tomahawk max

noble oak
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Any complaints?

finite badger
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Hmm

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I'm having crashes sometimes but that's because of my RAM i think

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That motherboard has great reviews tho

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Now you need a power supply and a graphics card

noble oak
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Does the CPU come with that stock cooler?

finite badger
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Yes

noble oak
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Ah cool.

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I think I can work with that. The bundle seems like a pretty decent price.

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and just a question about the motherboard. Do I need to have a PC which fits the usb/other imput sockets for it?

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Im very new to building a PC so im not too sure how you do it.

finite badger
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Yes, if you can live with stock cooler (sometimes little noisy)

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and just a question about the motherboard. Do I need to have a PC which fits the usb/other imput sockets for it?
@noble oak what do you mean by that?

noble oak
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Wait, so you know how the PC has like usbs and HDMI imputs etc. Is that supplied from the motherboard directly or is it connected to the PC case to the motherboard.

finite badger
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The 3600 has NO integrated video signal, so you have to plug them into the graphics card

noble oak
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oh ok

finite badger
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The back of the pc is your motherboard, the front of the pc (the case) is connected to the case

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Back ports are faster

noble oak
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ah ok that makes sense

finite badger
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And the case is also connected to the motherboard (with annoying tiny connectors)

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Which are slower most of the Time

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At the bottom of the motherboard there are some small connectors for the case (RGB and USB ports )

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I have a 3700x on a b450 tomahawk with a 5700xt

noble oak
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What case do you have?

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I was thinking of getting the DarkFlash DLM21 MESH White Micro ATX

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does that fit the motherboard?

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@finite badger ?

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sorry for ping

finite badger
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TG5 Pro RGB

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Micro ATX case does not fit the motherboard

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Because motherboard is An standaard ATX

noble oak
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Ah ok thanks for all the help

finite badger
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Np

noble oak
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It was much appreciated have a good day ☺️

finite badger
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You too🙂

thorn cradle
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any good 1000 prebuilts mainly for performance not graphics

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pls

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let me know if u can

crimson scroll
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what do you mean performance not graphics

static pecan
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Also pretty much any pre built is 100% not worth it for $1000. You're much better off building your own PC at that price point

crimson scroll
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i've had this discussion with him already i think

thorn cradle
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yes

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u did

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idk

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how to build pc

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that is y

crimson scroll
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you can learn

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that's like saying you don't know how to play fortnite so you'll never start

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invest some time in yourself, you can teach yourself problem solving skills along the way

gilded frost
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Its like legos eventually lol

thorn cradle
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oh ok

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i will watch a yt vid

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because i am scared i will mess somthing up

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so that is y

crimson scroll
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two guides i recommend

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i'm watching the review of the 6800 by GN and it looks like it slots in nicely between the 3070 and 3080/6800xt

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weird to switch graphical display methods between charts though

unborn kiln
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Got to love GN

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He does great things for the community

noble oak
crimson scroll
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why the 3950x

noble oak
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threadripper is more expensive

crimson scroll
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5950x though

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corsair ram, meh

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i mostly like the rest

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may want to spend more on a nice monitor for accurate color grading

cedar herald
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will dp 1.2 be future proof for a 144hz monitor if i buy rn

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and is hdmi 1.4 outdated

gilded frost
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There’s hdmi 2.1 so very

cedar herald
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but its a 1080p 144hz monitor

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it doesnt need that kind of capability right?

crimson scroll
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dp 1.2 is outdated too

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hdmi 1.4 supports 1080p 120hz

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dp 1.4 can do up to 4k 120hz, dp 1.2 can do 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240hz

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dp 2.0 is out, but just the spec. Not sure if any actual dp2.0 devices are out

cedar herald
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so will 1.2 suffice for 144hz 1080p

crimson scroll
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yes

rustic onyx
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So ive decided to get a micro atx motherboard with either the ryzen 3600 or 3700x (Since 3600 is expensive rn)
Should i got for a b550 motherboard or settle for one of the only x570 mATX motherboard:
asrock pro4

cedar herald
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depends on ur gpu and storage

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coz u really dont need pcie gen 4 unless those components run it

gilded frost
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Just get a 5600x?

static pecan
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Yeah, at this point your best bet @rustic onyx would be to wait for the 5600X to come back in stock and pair it with a B550 board

rustic onyx
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thing is i wanna get the setup or at least order all the parts done by end of november

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and i dont think its gonna be in stock by then

static pecan
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Do you need a computer before the end of November? If you don't absolutely need one I would wait

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I mean, I'm ordering pretty much all of my parts this month while everything is on sale then I'm just going to wait till I can actually get a 5900X and RX6800XT

crimson scroll
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^

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if you don't need it, just wait

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unless you're made of money

bold drum
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So how was the big Navi release?

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How do the benchmarks compare to the 3070 and 3080?

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AMD RX 6800 XT GPU breaks world record while overclocked to 2.65GHz – and without any fancy cooling is this good?

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Or how good I would say

crimson scroll
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eh

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i dunno about "beastly overclocking"

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especially considering the stock cooler is mediocre

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also, just because you can clock something high doesn't mean its stable or good

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you can clock a 10600k higher than a 5600x, in general. doesn't make it better

lean quarry
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Should i go for the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) or should i spend 40 dollars or so more on the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI)

crimson scroll
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l8200A vs I225-V lan, ac 9260 vs wifi 6 AX200, bluetooth 5.0 vs bluetooth 5.1, same audio codec, 3 more usb ports on the x570 pro

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do any of those matter to you

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also same vrms on both, the pro has better heatsinks, but the plus heatsinks aren't bad by any means

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pro also has usb bios flashback and an internal usbc

lean quarry
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Hhmm....

crimson scroll
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yeah

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not a big deal unless you really need 3.2 usbc on the front of your case

lean quarry
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And the other one?

crimson scroll
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also not a big deal unless you're overclocking a very power hungry chip

lean quarry
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A rtx 3080?

crimson scroll
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nah

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those will mostly draw power from their own pcie cables

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i'm talking about overclocking a cpu

lean quarry
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Amd ryzen 5 5600x

crimson scroll
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yeah

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that's not a very power hungry chip

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think about how parts draw power

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the gpus almost all have external pcie cables

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they also draw power from the motherboard, but only up to 75w

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the cpu is only connected to the motherboard

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it draws all of its power from there

lean quarry
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Ooh so no big deal

crimson scroll
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so the only thing that really would need extra motherboard power is the cpu

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the normal 8 pin cpu power will power nearly all consumer cpus just fine by itself

lean quarry
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I am probably only going to overclock the gpu

crimson scroll
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yeah

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it's fine

lean quarry
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Ok

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Thanks

gilded frost
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5950x or threadripper?

crimson scroll
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depends on your budget and needs

devout wolf
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and the threadripper in question

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5950x vs 1900x... should be obvious

crimson scroll
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1900x all the way, baby

devout wolf
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ez pcie lanes

lean quarry
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I have a 3 1200

gilded frost
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Just in general what would be a better pick. Also do you think dual socket am4 motherboards will release any year soon?

lean quarry
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Dual socket? Why dual socket?

crimson scroll
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i can't give an "in general" pick

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they have to have qualifiers

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for most consumers, neither

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they should go with something cheaper

gilded frost
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Can you imagine dual socket threadrippers?

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128 cores

crimson scroll
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sounds like server application stuff

devout wolf
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i mean there are dual socked epycs

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and 4 socket iirc?

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and xeon phi

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or 8x e7-8894v4s

fallow briar
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whats the most expensive you can get with a pc?

crimson scroll
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it's hard to get an upper bound

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you can just keep adding peripherals and stuff

gilded frost
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What’s the most expensive? Oh I’ll show you

calm forge
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the amount of drives hurts my eyes

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and periphs

deep scroll
crimson scroll
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think i'll actually be able to afford my future build now

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just got a job 😄

devout wolf
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ayyyyy

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so glad to head that

raw marsh
static pecan
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Got my mobo, ram, and both storage drives today for my new build. Just waiting for my PSU to come back in stock on amazon at the end of the month to order that + case and cooler. After that I'll just be waiting to get a 5900X and 6800XT

crimson scroll
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sick

static pecan
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Yee yee. Decided to go ahead and order everything besides CPU and GPU (obviously, lol) this month since everything expect the cooler has been at a 20% or more discount

crimson scroll
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case and psu?

gilded frost
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Congrats Reject .

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Looks like a beauty so far Alan

static pecan
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be quiet! 500DX and a be quiet! Straight Power 11 750W @crimson scroll

crimson scroll
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nice

static pecan
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I'm also getting their new 360mm AIO for cooling. Unfortunately it's not on sale because it just released like a month and a half ago or something but has pretty solid performance for $120 + no RGB lol

crimson scroll
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the pure loop?

static pecan
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Yee

crimson scroll
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nice

devout wolf
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noice

static pecan
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The only gripe I really have about it is that they didn't go with an RGB ring around the CPU block, they just made it a solid white, but since the pump design on the cooler is built into the tubes instead of on the rad I can plug the pump in separately from the LED on the CPU block so I can leave the LED off since I'm going for a black/purple color scheme

crimson scroll
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yeah, i don't love the weird shield on top

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doesn't match the rest of the aesthetic

devout wolf
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oh wow I’ve never seen that design language on any other be quiet product

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they could’ve gone with the lines kinda thing that are on their fan blades

crimson scroll
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reminds me of the corsair AIOs tbh

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a kinda square blocky thing where the coldplate is

devout wolf
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yeah

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corsair is more octagon-ish

static pecan
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minus the extreme amount of RGB pule you'd find on a Corsair block tho lol

devout wolf
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it’s not that much

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The new capellix block has a ton but qith the black cover it looks nice

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i mean the nzxt kraken z series has 102400 pixels of rgb

static pecan
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Yeah I kinda wish there was a black option for the block on the be quiet one

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Also true lol

crimson scroll
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Just plastidip

cedar herald
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is this a good monitor it is onsale for 100 at my local bjs

crimson scroll
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For 100, not bad

noble oak
crimson scroll
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Not hard

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Just add things pcpp lists

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Can filter high to low price

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And it filters compatibility for you

gilded frost
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Also if you spam click it will keep adding until you let go, and then process all of it

full sandal
static pecan
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???

gilded frost
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?

nova bough
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?

gilded frost
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What did you expect him to say?

nova bough
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something

noble oak
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Is this worth it? (868.4 USD if you need a conversion)
I am wondering if this is a good first ever gaming PC for me.

cedar herald
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ehhhh

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for 899 on micro center i saw a better prebuilt

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idk if it is available where u r

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tho

noble oak
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@cedar herald would you be able to give me a link?

static pecan
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If you don't have a microcenter near you it won't matter. They don't ship anything they only sell stuff in store

noble oak
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oh

gilded frost
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You can almost build a 5600x / 3070 or atleast 3060 TI when it comes out with 900 bucks. Horrible deal

lean quarry
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If they come in stock 😬

static pecan
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5800X is available on Amazon rn and lists stock as coming in December 23rd

gilded frost
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Jacked up prices

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I would pay 500 for the 5900x lol. Forget the 5800x

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You’re paying an extra 150 to 200 (tax) then the 5600x . For what? 2 cores and 4 threads, and a mb more cache.

devout wolf
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the X800x is usually an expensive X700x anyway

cedar herald
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theyll ship it anywhere in us

crimson scroll
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looks like zero airflow, 3000 ram with zen 2

cedar herald
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thats good for a prebuilt at that price

devout wolf
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the corners they cut are yikes

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prolly a wd green ssd in there

crimson scroll
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vtjFZZ the 2060 really isn't worth 360 so i guess technically you're getting it cheaper in the prebuilt, but lets be real. just pick up a 5600xt or 5700 for around 300 and it'll be the same cost with better parts

calm forge
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i did some work on my pc the other day

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redid the cable management

crimson scroll
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nice

calm forge
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and changed the fan config

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👍

crimson scroll
calm forge
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hmmm

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idk theres more i wanna do to the cable management lmao

crimson scroll
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unknown which still but it's probably not THAT bad

devout wolf
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oh phew

bitter plaza
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anyone here know a good motherboard that fits with 16gb ram 2x500gb samsung ssd i5 8600 and 1070 TI

devout wolf
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budget?

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would say b365 but buying a dead platform new is ehhh, look for used b365 or z370/90

crimson scroll
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yeah, if you already own the i5 8600 then what rafee said, if that's a planned build, it's a bit outdated

cedar herald
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not too shabby

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think there will be a deal on the arctis ones

crimson scroll
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one thing i didn't think of, it's unlikely, but if both ssds are m.2, you'd need a motherboard with two m.2 slots, and it further depends on if they're nvme or sata

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but if not, every consumer motherboard will have enough sata ports

static pecan
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PSU came back in stock a week ahead of schedule so I just ordered it and my AIO went on sale this morning too. Still waiting for my case to drop in price again, but seeing as how I still don't have a CPU or GPU, I have all the time in the world to wait on it lol

neat heath
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yarrak

lavish kraken
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sheeeee a 3090 for 1 dollar :)

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what you guys thnk

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lmao

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ok

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thats a suggestion

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im kidding

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well hydrated

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you should geet a cooler

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if u dont get a cooler then you will get burn burn

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ah

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what

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i built my pc and it cost a few hundred more

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i got rtx 1014

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well only thing is i got a 2070 u got 3070

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but ur build is good

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if ur gonna do streaming

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get ram

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32gb ram

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OK

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cuz i play cod and stream and i open google to put music it lags

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just saying cuz idk

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what u think of the pc

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:)

static pecan
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Meh AIO, would probably go 360 for a 5950X. Why are you going with a budget mobo for such a high end build? I personally wouldn't buy MSI because of what they do behind the scenes, but that's just personal choice. I don't want my money to support a shady company. Regardless, I would go X570 with that build. That SSD is extremely overpriced and for less than that you could get a 1TB Aorus, Corsair, or Sabrient PCIe Gen 4 drive. That case choice has pretty bad airflow and why the hell are you going 1080p with a 3090? At the very least you should be getting one high refresh rate 1440 monitor unless you already have one.

devout wolf
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budget mobo? Lol

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That b550 board is perfectly capable of running the 5950x on full blast

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only difference between that and x570 is PCIe lanes

cloud mist
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what cpu should i get insted of the i9 990k

crimson scroll
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Depends on what you're doing

cloud mist
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ok

gilded frost
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Yeah that build is a joke, no detail to what he’s using, giving non well thought out options. And putting a 5950x / 3090 in an NZXT case, you’ll get Fried.

crimson scroll
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does anybody know if the liquid freezer II 280 is too thick to be side mounted in the nr200?

thorn cradle
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yu

crimson scroll
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i'm thinking maybe drop the fuma 2 for a 280 rad

gilded frost
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Power supply is bit overpriced. Even for platinum , full, and 750.

crimson scroll
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it has no price for me honestly

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pcpp working its magic again

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i put it down because i don't know much about sfx psus

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what's it showing for you?

gilded frost
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277

crimson scroll
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oh....yeah

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that is expensive

gilded frost
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Yeah when I saw it I figured pcp was screwing up again

crimson scroll
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what would you suggest

gilded frost
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For PSU?

crimson scroll
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yeah

gilded frost
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The supernova 750 P2

crimson scroll
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apparently there's a 3d bracket for atx psus you can print and cm wants to make a bracket available for order in 2021

gilded frost
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Wow

crimson scroll
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but i'd probably want sfx over atx just for airflow purposes

gilded frost
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That motherboard has some badass ram over clocking

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What’s up with pcp recently it’s just been getting worse by the day

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But pc gaming race I guess, lol

crimson scroll
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it's just me though, apparently. Other people can see prices just fine

gilded frost
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After I add them they disappear , just bizarre. Your PSU in stock at normal prices is around 170 to 190, but it OOS on Best Buy, Corsair, and new egg, so Amazon has the price jacked up to 277

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It could be your region? If pcp even has access to locations

crimson scroll
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set to US

gilded frost
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odd then

crimson scroll
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oh you know what

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i bet pcpp changed the merchant list in my settings

gilded frost
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Hopefully you fixed in just then lol

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If you’re going to go with a air flow based case, I personally wouldn’t get RGB ram sticks?

crimson scroll
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true

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maybe i'll get the 4000cl16 ripjaws

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it's $270 for 32gb

gilded frost
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Corsair sells them for 500

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Because of the added RGB

crimson scroll
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i'm not that into memory overclocking though...

gilded frost
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Yeah lol, it’s just pointless after a certain point

crimson scroll
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I have bdie right now it's just pretty low ranked bdie

gilded frost
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You need a cpu to support those speeds eventually

crimson scroll
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i'll probably want to ditch the hard drive and go to a 2tb m.2 or larger 2.5" ssd as well

gilded frost
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Probably save some more money and read and write if you bought 2 1tb M.2’s

crimson scroll
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the drives in the list i already own

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no point in replacing perfectly good drives imo

gilded frost
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The motherboard has 2 M.2 slots ah

crimson scroll
#

yeah

gilded frost
#

Yeah

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Samsung?

crimson scroll
#

expensive

gilded frost
#

western digital sells a 2tb M.2 for $224

#

Samsung’s 2’5 ssds aren’t too badly priced

#

Their M.2’s are another story though

crimson scroll
#

for a storage ssd, i'm thinking it doesn't have to be too fast, i'd be fine with even a bx500

#

it's more just the noise and size of my current disks

gilded frost
#

You have some PS4 problems?

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Lol

crimson scroll
#

nah

#

but for mini itx you really do want as much space as possible freed up

gilded frost
#

Yeah

crimson scroll
#

2.5" is about credit card sized, 3.5" is sandwich sized

gilded frost
#

G skill sells cl 16 3600 (32gb 2*16) ram for about 125 . So 40 dollar less , without the RGB

crimson scroll
#

i'm seeing it for 140

gilded frost
#

Oh I’m looking at microcenter

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And it’s Cl19

crimson scroll
#

i do have access to microcenter

#

will probably go there for cpu+mobo, hopefully they have the one i want

gilded frost
#

They sell out quite frequently

#

Lots of great ram deals going around new egg

#

Some are 70 bucks off

crimson scroll
#

yeah

gilded frost
#

Where did you find that ram? Team t force is selling a 2*16 kit 3600 but it’s Cl18, 104 bucks

crimson scroll
#

newegg has all of the ones i'm looking at currently

gilded frost
#

Now they aren’t showing up for me

crimson scroll
gilded frost
#

Much easier

crimson scroll
#

trying to go for dual rank kits specifically since apparently zen 3 benefits from that

#

good thing is looks like all the 2x16 are dual rank

gilded frost
#

Yeah modern ones atleast

arctic delta
#

Anyone know a good CPU cooler under $100 that pairs well with the R5 3600?

crimson scroll
#

plenty

#

do you have space concerns

arctic delta
#

No

#

I have a H510

#

dont judge lol

crimson scroll
#

overkill would be stuff like the deepcool assassin 3, nh-d15, dark rock pro 4

#

slightly less overkill, the scythe fuma 2, scythe ninja 5, scythe mugen rev b, le grande macho rt

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if you want cheaper, the hyper 212s (but still overpriced) or id cooling se 234/224

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i am still judging your h510 but whatever

arctic delta
#

you dont judge someone for having a h510 if its their first build

crimson scroll
#

no, i still do

arctic delta
#

i would have gone for the phanteks p300a mesh if i had known

crimson scroll
#

i'm not judging you specifically for getting it, just judging the overall system

arctic delta
#

thats 100% fair

#

i wanted to get the NH-U12S chromax.black but its like 110 right now compared to the non black one

crimson scroll
#

noctua is good, great quality, i have several of their fans

#

but so damn expensive

#

their worst product is probably their low profile cooler and it's still acceptable

arctic delta
#

yeah, i want that one specifically cause itll keep my CPU very cool and still very quiet, but i cant find the black version for less than double the brown one anywhere!

crimson scroll
#

scythe fuma 2 is gray and black

arctic delta
#

yeah but my build is 98% matte black

#

so grey

#

nahh

crimson scroll
#

id cooling se 234 is rgb and black

#

can turn off the rgb probably

arctic delta
#

seems poor quality but i might take your word for it

gilded frost
#

Don’t see where it is poor quality @arctic delta

#

Anyone have an idea of the prices drop for Black Friday/cyber Monday? I’ll snag some parts while I can, maybe sell them later down the road for some profit.

deep scroll
#

What's a good website I can download Windows off of for PC? My friend doesn't wanna spend the extra hundred to get it

sly grotto
#

@deep scroll you have to anyway use the download media tool for windows, and put it onto a usb. Then you install it and they will have a water mark "unactivated windows" and you can get a windows 10 pro key nowdays for like 5 quid

vestal lichen
#

hey @ripe crypt

ripe crypt
#

yo

granite wren
#

Hi! What Steelseries wireless mouse can I drag click on?

crimson scroll
#

...what

granite wren
#

Are there any wireless mice that I can drag click with that you guys recomend

crimson scroll
#

don't...all mice...drag click

#

mouse shape is pretty personal preference

#

hard to recommend one to you honestly

granite wren
#

ok

#

thank you

#

I just didn't want to make a mistake before buying one

arctic delta
crimson scroll
#

...explain

#

you click

#

drag

#

release

#

to select or whatever

arctic delta
#

yeah, but steelseries mice are not good at it, from the mice ive tried its not easy to do it on them

crimson scroll
#

really?

#

it's not difficult to drag the mouse and click it

arctic delta
#

thats not drag clicking

crimson scroll
#

then what is

crimson scroll
#

oh

#

yeah i have no idea then

arctic delta
#

yeah i cant do it well on the rival 3

random slate
#

is a rayzen 9300x a amd 4?

gilded frost
#

So many things wrong with that

gilded frost
#

Rayzen? 9300? Aam4?

random slate
#

lmao sorry, ryzen 9 3900xt

#

i mean am4, but i found it on google

gilded frost
#

Pretty sure anything besides Threadripper, that AMD (Ryzen) sells, is using an am4 socket. The most common are the Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7 , and Ryzen 9. You also have several low market cpus that are used in most prominently school products such as chrome books or cheap laptops.

cedar herald
lean quarry
#

How long will that member sale last on steelseries website

cedar herald
#

i can only upgrade one thing headset or monitor which do i upgrade

crimson scroll
#

depends on what your current setup is like and what's more important to you

cedar herald
#

the left channel of my headset is dead and the only other one i have is hella uncomfortable but my monitor is 15 inches and 60 hertz

crimson scroll
#

so which one is more uncomfortable to you

#

the headset or the small monitor

cedar herald
#

i mean i get a lot of screen tearing on my monitor and the only uncomfortable thing abt the headset is the earcups make my ears hot after long use

crimson scroll
#

what's your current gpu and cpu

cedar herald
#

ryzen 7 4700u

crimson scroll
#

oh a laptop

cedar herald
#

ye

crimson scroll
#

what's your budget

cedar herald
#

150 for a monitor 50 for a headset

crimson scroll
#

150 can get you a 1080p 144hz monitor

#

imo that would be more worthwhile than a new headset

cedar herald
#

alr

#

ty

cedar herald
#

wating for cheaper seller to come back in stock

#

i should have ordered it yester idk if i will get it before its sold out

gilded frost
#

As much as I don’t recommend pre builts, you can actually get them cheaper on new egg with their “black Friday” deals

#

Ryzen 3700x , 2070 s , 16 Tb ram, 1 Tb ssd , 1 Tb hdd

#

The 2070s itself is being sold in the low 800’a

lean quarry
#

I have ordered a rival 600 from steelseries with 35 euro's off

#

so it was €54

devout wolf
#

noice

prime thicket
#

if it's worth it though I'll bite the bullet

devout wolf
#

get 2 5-packs of arctic P12s

#

oh LLs yikes

prime thicket
#

do they have rgb?

devout wolf
#

nah let me find rgb ones

#

LLs are stupid overpriced

prime thicket
#

yeah that's why I thought I'd ask here first

#

idk

devout wolf
#

static pressure

#

they’re not only for static pressure, that’s what an air compressor is

#

but it is static pressure oriented

#

meh airflow but good pressure

#

praying that deepcool rf120m’s are available in the uk

prime thicket
#

I know it's really picky but I was looking for fans that still look like the corsair LLs (e.g. with a ring and not just the fans | or even with just a ring like the other ones I sent)

devout wolf
#

gelid stellas if they ship there

prime thicket
#

rip the only thing that comes up when i search that on amazon is thermal paste, the fan adaptor. stella artois and stella the tv show

devout wolf
#

just get the antec prizms then

#

they still perform slightly better in terms of airflow than the stupid LLs

#

i assume your case is the lian li O11

#

or a knockoff of it from another brand

prime thicket
#

yeah O11 Dynamic

lean quarry
#

Anybody knows a good single 140mm fan with rgb?

lean quarry
#

Aight

#

And the Antec Prizm 65.03 CFM 140 mm Fan?

#

I cant get those phanteks fans in my country

devout wolf
#

oh

#

which country again?

lean quarry
#

Netherlands

lean quarry
#

Thanks

stray hull
#

what is a good cpu for a pc that i am building

crimson scroll
#

depends on what you're doing with said pc and what your budget is

stray hull
#

my budget is 1500

crimson scroll
#

and the other question?

stray hull
#

is a fan better than a water cooler

#

?

crimson scroll
#

i assume you mean full air cooling versus a loop

#

both have advantages and disadvantages

crimson scroll
#

for that price? not great

#

you still never answered what you're doing with the pc

stray hull
#

oh gaming

crimson scroll
#

5600x is my recommendation then

stray hull
#

ryzen is beter

crimson scroll
#

kind of a vague general statement

stray hull
#

than i7

crimson scroll
#

you're putting an entire product line against a more specific product line

#

and both still encompass multiple actual skus

#

there's so many different chips at different prices, with different performances in different segments

#

are you talking about the 3400g vs the 10700k in blender? what about the 5950x against the 8700 in decoding?

stray hull
#

ya

#

i will google both of them and see what is better

crimson scroll
#

...

#

for gaming, the 5600x is better than the 9700f

rigid basalt
#

@crimson scroll the Ryzen 7 3700x is competing with that

crimson scroll
#

competing with what

low lark
#

Guys I am upgrading to RTX 3090

#

Currently ia m have ing RTX 2090

#

Should I upgrade?

#

🤔

heady helm
#

@low lark tf is a rtx 2090

#

you mean 2080?

low lark
#

Yea sorry bro

#

I don't giv much ingest on the names of those things only the quality

#

@heady helm

devout wolf
#

is your 2080 underperforming?

#

is it not able to keep up the framerate your desire at the settings you want?

#

if yes: upgrade

#

if no: there is no reason to

lunar skiff
devout wolf
#

that's... not even a bad gpu

gilded frost
#

I doubt he actually has a 2080 and is getting a 3090 , incoherent sentences, doesn’t sound like he means anything he say’s. Unless he’s some spoiled child, which could be the case

steady crater
#

Hey ive been wanting to upgrade from my gtx 1660ti to rtx 3080, but i see people saying amd is making a better gpu. What do u guys think?

gilded frost
#

Do you plan on using ray tracing?

crimson scroll
#

right now i wouldn't say the 6800xt is a better gpu than the 3080

#

kinda trades blows at lower resolutions in rasterized games, slightly worse at higher resolutions due to lower vram bandwidth, and absolutely garbage in ray tracing

desert moss
#

@steady crater the real question is, what kindve games do you play?

#

And what resolution do you play at

steep tiger
lean quarry
#

And me with a gtx 1050 ti 🤬

crimson scroll
#

we get it

cedar herald
#

me with vega 10 igpu

gilded frost
#

If we’re going to keep getting worse

nVidia Geforce MX440 DVI 64MB AGP Video Card 180-10117-0000-B00 - G0770

Beat it

lean quarry
#

Ooh and the best thing, you get 20 cents off

sly grotto
#

😂

crimson scroll
#

there's plenty of overpriced products

silent solstice
low lark
#

@gilded frost iam not spoiled ok I just wanna have some help with graphics card it's not been woking properly when I play cod warzone in it it lags even I have asus rog stirs internet connection I am not spoiled ok!

#

Btw my dad told me adjust with RTX2080

#

Beacuse of u@gilded frost

#

Ihave worked so much hard to have that dude!

#

😫 thump

crimson scroll
#

"asus rog stirs internet connection" can you elaborate

gilded frost
#

Your 2080 TI can't handle cod?

crimson scroll
#

send your 2080ti to me, i can verify for you if it's working or not kappaberia

gilded frost
#

😂

lean quarry
#

He dad i need an rtx 3090 for online class

ebon escarp
steep tiger
#

Hehe

static pecan
#

5900X has been secured along with my be quiet! 500DX. PSU just arrived today so all that's left is to secure a 6800XT which I'll hopefully be able to do before January lol

vague pine
#

and me with a 1050 with 2gb vram 😡

static pecan
#

I'm currently on a laptop with a 3750H and GTX 1650 so I feel your pain

gilded frost
#

Not the right chat, not the right reason, no.

low lark
#

Ok guys my dad told me to adjust with RTX 2080 aww man iworked hard in college for this!thump

bold drum
#

Wdym adjust? Don’t you already have a 2080?

cedar herald
#

lmao

crimson scroll
#

You don't type like you're in college

#

And besides if you're in college, buy your own shit

crimson scroll
#

Complaining about your dad supposedly telling you to stay on a 2080 because some guy on a discord told you so when you're in college is some of the most entitled crap I've ever heard

bold drum
#

Maybe he did pay for it. If so I don’t see why he’s complaining about staying on it lmao

#

Actually if your in college idk if you can even pay for that lol. Maybe he doesn’t speak good English that’s why he doesn’t speak like someone in college

crimson scroll
#

considering he's talking about having to ask his dad, i don't think so

#

it all sounds made up to me

bold drum
#

Maybe he’s the kind of family that he has to ask his dad for everything major

gilded frost
#

I wonder if they don’t teach English anymore

vague pine
#

i am about to get my hands on a 3070 founders edition and i currently have a r5 2600x as my cpu will there be a bottleneck?

#

and if there is a bottleneck then will overclocking the cpu fix it?

nova atlas
cedar herald
#

idk

#

ask reject pikachu

#

or in the ltt discord

daring viper
#

hey Im installing an m.2 ssd but I cant quite get my hand in there without touching the cpu cooler or gpu. got tips?

devout wolf
#

remove the gpu

crimson scroll
#

a 2600x will bottleneck the 3070, how much will depend on res

#

and overclocking the cpu probably won't help that much

bold drum
static pecan
cedar herald
#

pog deal

#

144hz 1ms

#

but OUT of STOCK

#

reee

crimson scroll
#

congrats alan

static pecan
#

Thanks. Newegg did a massive drop of all the bundles last night and I managed to snag one. I've bene watching live stock update streams for about a week now lol

daring viper
crimson scroll
#

do you expect instant responses from people in the discord?

daring viper
#

no no, sorry if it sounded like that

crimson scroll
#

wdym late then

daring viper
#

what I meant is just that before he responded I decided to take more risk and actually managed to squeeze it in

crimson scroll
#

huh.

#

if it works i guess

daring viper
#

and it seems to be working alright

#

well the gpu is ok
and the drive hasnt really got a reason to not work
so I guess it's fine

upbeat roost
#

Anyone know a good cheap build they can send me the parts

crimson scroll
#

you need to specify budget and use case

chilly idol
#

Is nvidea 2060 rtx good for minecarft

crimson scroll
#

cheap is relative

#

for rtx minecraft? it'll struggle. otherwise it'll be fine

chilly idol
#

Thanks

crimson scroll
#

pretty bad lows, does hit 65 fps average on 1080p

prime thicket
#

would be nice if you included the key

crimson scroll
ocean basalt
#

Hi! I'm trying to build a budget pc (preferably sub $1000) and would need any help on which components to get

crimson scroll
#

what are you looking to do with the pc

spare quarry
#

I want to build a gaming pc under 1000$

ocean basalt
#

I usually play games like valorant and apex legends, but also play Assassins Creed every once in a while

#

I play on my laptop right now, but it's starting to struggle so I was thinking of getting an upgrade

crimson scroll
#

for both of you

lucid glade
#

Alright. Just need my EK distros, pumps and rads to show up and I'm ready to rock. About to embark on the largest build I've ever done, and my first hardline build. Figured if I'm gonna go, might as well go big.

gilded frost
#

God what case is that in

lucid glade
#

Lian-Li DK-05FX

#

@gilded frost

lean quarry
#

think big

spare quarry
static pecan
#

You need to share the right link first

#

Up in the top left corner there should be a link that send us directly to your list

spare quarry
#

Ohh okay

#

better

static pecan
#

You don't need an AIO for a 2600. If you aren't doing any overclocking the stock cooler is more than adequate. If you're looking to save money then don't go with RGB RAM, especially not Vengeance. Look at kits from G Skill or Team Group for better quality and value. Why do you need 2 high refresh rate monitors? If you're only going to be gaming on one then you can get a cheaper secondary display. SSD is also overpriced. Look at the WD Blue SN550 instead. I would highly recommend at least a 500 watt PSU or 550 watt just to make sure you aren't putting too much strain on it when under load. You can find codes for Windows 10 cheaper online than buying it outright, but that's up to personal preference I guess. Same with my next point which is that I would personally avoid MSI because they have bad practices when it comes to independent reviewers and some other stuff like scalping their own GPUs, but again that's just personal preference.

spare quarry
#

Ok

chilly idol
#

I want the apex pro
But it out of stock if I buy the nordic one and then buy apex pro keycaps will it still be the same

devout wolf
#

well no cause nordic has the ISO-style enter key

#

which means there are two extra keys from the ANSI/US version

chilly idol
devout wolf
#

pretty much i think

#

you have to change the layout in sse

chilly idol
#

What is sse

devout wolf
#

steelseries engine

#

or i guess steelseries gg too now

#

still engine technically

lean quarry
#

What is the cooling difference between the ek-aio 360 and the nzxt kraken z73?

arctic delta
#

Would yall say its ok to get a 3600 with a 2080 ti, cause my friends brother who is supposedly a computer engineering is saying it is

#

And im thinking he's a software engineering or sum

crimson scroll
#

sure

#

it'll bottleneck a bit but it's fine

#

what price are you getting those parts at though

gilded frost
#

Probably cheaper to get a 3080 from a scalper then a 2080 TI at normal price

static pecan
#

Oof

lean quarry
#

Ye just get a rtx 3080 (if it is anvailable)

arctic delta
elfin ember
#

you dont need 32gb of ram

#

16 is fine but if you think you need it

#

it is fine

cedar herald
#

not necessarily

elfin ember
#

your

#

true

crimson scroll
#

we don't know what they're doing with the system

#

that ssd is garbage tier though

#

and that case looks like it has very little airflow

elfin ember
#

he is probley going to use it for gaming

crimson scroll
#

at $200 it seems like a bad deal

#

you can get similar ram for cheaper

#

motherboard is pricy if you're not using the features

#

3700x is a generation old, may be worth it if you need the cores

crimson scroll
noble oak
#

5950x instead of ryzen 9 tho

cedar herald
#

a 5950x is ryzen 9

crimson scroll
#

seems like a stupidly overpriced cooler, a 10tb ssd should not be 350, even an enterprise drive

#

you can get exo/ironwolf drives for around 17-20 per tb

#

should probably go for 2x16 dual rank memory, you can get 3200cl14 for cheaper and clock it up to match flck or tighten the timings

#

corsair RM 80+ gold is 135 and i see no real reason to go platinum

gilded frost
#

The chances of using half of that hard drive are slim

crimson scroll
#

depends on what you're doing

#

if it's a production build, which i can see that being, why not?

#

and my friend just ordered 3 16tb ironwolf drives to do a raid 5 nas with

#

he's currently already sitting at around 14tb full on his current drives

gilded frost
#

If he’s using it for gaming

#

Nuts, each of those things cost quite a token

#

@arctic delta you forget your gpu?

olive hearth
#

Could somebody help me? I have the AMD Radeon rx 5600 xt, and put it into my pc not to long ago. My games keep stuttering and I have no idea if its the game itself, or the graphics card. I've tried everything in game to fix it, changed my settings and everything (The games BO cold war and Modern Warfare) and it still stutters

viral echo
#

is it just me or are the parts on pcpp higher than like last month

crimson scroll
#

prices change, yes

#

@olive hearth update your drivers

olive hearth
#

uhh how do I do that? I just got into pc's a couple months ago, sorry if this is a dumb question

crimson scroll
#

search for 5600xt drivers

viral echo
#

dang

viral echo
#

the setup i wanted last month was only 600-700

#

the ryzen 3 3100 and the 5600 xt with the other stuff i wanted was 600-700 but i checked like rn and its 1000

#

kinda sad all 4 of my friends are leaving xbox

crimson scroll
#

thats pretty normal

viral echo
#

to move to pc

#

whats normal

#

1k?

crimson scroll
#

for prices to fluctuate

viral echo
#

oh

#

welp

#

theres like no other 600-800 anymore that would run decently

#

maybe if i replace the 5600 xt with a 1650 or 1660

crimson scroll
#

hm

#

that 1660s just jumped in price

viral echo
#

yeah

#

all the gpus did

crimson scroll
#

anyways that's close to 800

viral echo
#

ryzen 5 3600?

crimson scroll
#

yeah

viral echo
#

isnt it more overkill

#

than using a 3 3100

#

or not rlly

crimson scroll
#

i mean, yeah

#

if you can find a 3100 go for it

#

i just pulled that from a build i made other people

olive hearth
#

I just updated the drivers im testing it rn

noble oak
# viral echo all the gpus did

The 1660 jumped in price because of scalpers. Not all GPUs went up in price. Some went down because of the new GPU releases

gilded frost
#

Can you find one thats gone down?

noble oak
#

2080ti

#

Is a perfect example

crimson scroll
#

retail price?

#

no it hasn't

viral echo
#

are the completed builds on pcpp good

noble oak
noble oak
#

You can even find them in the $600 range

crimson scroll
#

you're looking on ebay...

viral echo
#

lol

noble oak
#

Yes, but ever since the 3080 and 3070 came out

#

People have been selling their 2080 ti cards for cheap

crimson scroll
#

and now the prices are going back up

#

if we were talking used, sure

noble oak
#

Nobody would buy a 2080 ti when you can get a 3080 for half the price

crimson scroll
#

go look at newegg

#

1k to 1.5k for a 2080ti

olive hearth
#

Thank you @crimson scroll my game does not stutter no more

crimson scroll
#

glad to hear

noble oak
#

True

crimson scroll
#

you probably were running on default microsoft display adapter

noble oak
#

I guess they went back up because they ran out of stock of the 3000 series

gilded frost
#

Not to mention I’ve seen people sell the card as paper, and got bids on it

crimson scroll
#

a good value buy right now is the 1080ti used

#

i picked mine up for $315 and it had the accelero 3 installed

cloud mist
#

what is a cpu that is like the i9 990k

noble oak
#

Kinda simular

cloud mist
#

what about the ryzen 9

#

im not very knowlegeable about all the pc stuff but want to build one

noble oak
#

Ryzen 9 is AMDs higher end cpu

#

In the ryzen line

cloud mist
#

ok

noble oak
#

Right now is a weird time to build a pc because parts are coming out and running out of stock so fast

#

Intel 11th is coming out as well so it’s going to be interesting what the benchmarks will be on that compadres to amd 5000 series

cloud mist
#

ok

#

thanks

static pecan
#

The direct competitor to the i9 10900K is the Ryzen 9 5900X @cloud mist

cloud mist
#

ok but what about the i9 99000

static pecan
#

Ryzen 7 3700X

cloud mist
#

ok

noble oak
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I would save up a little more and get the ryzen 7 5800x tho

static pecan
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The 5800X is overall a terrible value though. If all you're doing is gaming then the 5600X is more than enough, and if you're doing any kind of productivity or creative work then the $100 step-up to the 12 core 5900X is pretty much a no brainer for a lot of people

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Of course if we're talking in terms of current availability, then you can pretty much snag a 5800X off of Amazon at any time because no one wants them because of the terrible value lol

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Not even scalpers want them anymore. That should tell you something

noble oak
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why is it a terrible value

static pecan
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Because 2 extra cores don't have a noticeable improvement in gaming performance and therefore there's no justifiable reason for spending $150 more than the 5600X, especially when an equivalent 8 core Intel CPU can be found for $20-$30 less than the 5800X and still get great gaming performance

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The 5800X is just as bad value as the 3800X and 3800XT were.. It exists in a weird middle ground where its only real purpose is to get people to spend more money for equivalent performance to a cheaper CPU

noble oak
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ic

zealous rune
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Yes

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generally ryzen9 is pretty good

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but the ryzen tr is better

static pecan
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That's a very generalized and inaccurate statement lol

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The average person does not need or would get any benefit from Threadripper

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Especially not for gaming

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And for a general purpose workstation the 5900X or 5950X make much more sense price/performance wise

zealous rune
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Yes

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the

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ryzen 5 3600x

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if im mot wrong was 210

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but now is 260

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almost same price as ryzen 7 3700x

noble oak
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the treadripper isnt that great for gaming tho?

zealous rune
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It is great...

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but overkill

noble oak
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compaired to the 5900x or 5950x?

zealous rune
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Well if u wanna pay 30 times more

static pecan
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Generally the increased core count of threadripper can actually hinder gaming performance

zealous rune
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4000 dollars

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slightly hinder

static pecan
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If you want a worksation that can also game in your spare time then the 5950X makes the most sense

zealous rune
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The ryzen tr is just generally overkill

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wait does the tr provide integregated in board graphics?

static pecan
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None of the Ryzen CPUs that aren't labeled with a G after the name don't have graphics

noble oak
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i dont see why you would be using OBG when you are spending that much on a cpu

zealous rune
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No i was just asking

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hm

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does the

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ryzen 5 3400g out run the ryzen 3...

static pecan
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Ryzen 3 what?

zealous rune
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The one for 100 dollars

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Ryzen 3 3100x

noble oak
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i want to build a 5950x with a 3090. thats going to be my next build.

zealous rune
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U must be rich

static pecan
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@zealous rune I'm not sure right off hand. Look up reviews if you want a real answer

zealous rune
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Ok

noble oak
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i dont want to buy a 3090 right now though because the prices are way to high

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i think i will just wait till next year

zealous rune
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Lol

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i was planning to make a build

static pecan
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Unless you need the 24GB of VRAM for like 3D modeling stuff or whatever then you might be better off with the rumored 3080TI if it actually becomes a thing sometime next year

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Or the RX 6900XT

noble oak
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im pretty sure the rumored 3080 ti will have 20gb of vram

zealous rune
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Ryzen 7 3700x, 32 gb ram, 1 tb ssd..... i dont want to buy a gpu and wait till next year

noble oak
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and the 3090 will most likley out perform the 3080 ti

zealous rune
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but now i realized the r7 doesnt have on board graphics

static pecan
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But it'll probably be closer to $1000 to compete with the 6900XT

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The 3090 barely outperforms the 3080 as is, the 3080TI will most likely come pretty damn close to, if not match the gaming performance of the 3090 for a much better price/performance value

noble oak
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?

zealous rune
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@static pecan wait so my build ryzen 7 3700x, 32 gb ram, must need a gpu if i wanted to play cod and r6 ?

static pecan
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It needs a GPU if you want to be able to use a monitor at all lmao

zealous rune
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But then the ones with the g at the end dont?

static pecan
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@noble oak the difference between a 3090 and 3080 in gaming is like + - 10 FPS, definitely not worth the $800 premium for the 3090

noble oak
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depends what game

static pecan
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@zealous rune If it has a G at the end of the name it has integrated graphics. They typically aren't great for gaming but they would be able to run COD and and r6 at 40-50 FPS on 1080p low settings

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@noble oak If you want to waist $800 more on a 3090 for a few frames then be my guest, all I'm saying is wait for RX 6900XT and 3080 TI benchmarks first

noble oak
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they are rumored tho

zealous rune
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My friends build was ryzen 5 3400g, 16 gb ram, 2 tb hdd... but no gpu. Is there something flawed with this build? Its total price is 500 usd but it must be 500 if he wants to keep his budget...

noble oak
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they arent official

static pecan
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The 6900XT is launching in a couple weeks lol. The 3080 TI is rumored, but there have been leaked investor slides and such indicating its existence. Besides that, Nvidia will obviously want to compete at the $1000 price point of the 6900XT

noble oak
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3080ti was rumored days after the release of the 3080.

static pecan
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But again, my point is to just wait and see, but if you want to blow another $800 for a few more frames then be my guest lol

noble oak
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I think nvidia will do better at ray tracing than the new amd cards

static pecan
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They obviously do lol. Have you seen any benchmarks at all? The RX cards get absolutely dunked on in RT lol

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But honestly the performance hit from RT even on a 3080 and 3090 is still to great IMO to make it worth the kinda money Nvidia is charging for it

noble oak
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thats why i think nvidia justifies the higher price point of the cards

static pecan
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But AMD also doesn't have their DLSS competitor out yet either which will improve the RT performance, but it will still fall behind 30 series

noble oak
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the price point is better then it was with the 2080ti

static pecan
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Well yeah that's obvious lmao the 2080TI was a ridiculous price, especially now when the 3070 is basically just a 2080 TI but at $500 instead of $1200

noble oak
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you dont get nearly as much vram but ur right

static pecan
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True, the VRAM is the big thing that turned me off of the 3070

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That, and I don't care about RT lol

noble oak
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even with DLSS i on amd cards i dont think they will compete with nvidia ray tracing performance

static pecan
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I don't want a 30-40 FPS reduction just for prettier shadows and water

noble oak
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i forgot what its called but nvidia works with these companies to make it run as smoothly as it does with their cards

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im pretty sure thats why you see Nvidia RTX on certain games

static pecan
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True, but even with DLSS it's still way too much of a performance hit for me to justify buying Nvidia over AMD

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Especially when both of my Nvidia cards have been crap lol

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My 970 blew up after like 3 years and nearly killed my system and the 1650 I got last year died after 7 months and had to get it RMAd

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Meanwhile the crappy RX 460 I got as a cheap replacement to my old 970 is still running like a dream with 0 issues 4 years later after pretty much daily use

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  • the 460 is overclocked lol
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AMD just presents a much better value for me and what I care about

noble oak
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im kinda dissapointed that i bought a 2080ti a 2 months before the 3000 series came out. Its still a great card, but its annoying how much i spend on it compaired to the new cards price to performance

static pecan
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Haha yeah that was definitely not a smart move

noble oak
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i didnt believe the rumors that people were saying its half the price for better performance of a 2080ti

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2 months later it was true

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i really dont care because i couldent get my hands on a 3000 series anyways

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i woke that morning of release and every site was sold out

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im curious if the same thing will happen with amds cards

static pecan
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That was me but with the Ryzen 5000 release lol. I almost got a 5900X on launch day, but the site crashed every time I tried to finalize the order until all the chips were gone, and it took me literally the entire month of November of trying to snag one from random Amazon and Newegg drops before I finally snagged a mobo and 5900X from Newegg on Friday night and they're getting here Wednesday

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AMD cards are already out my dude

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And the launch of those was somehow even worse than Nvidia

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The AIB cards launched this past Wednesday but none of them actually existed. Not even scalpers got any because there was none on eBay on the day of release like there was 2 weeks ago with the launch of the reference cards

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The last thing I need for my build is a 6800XT and I'm hoping I can snag one through a random drop like I did the CPU before January or February lol

noble oak
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oh?

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i didnt even know cz_thinking

static pecan
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Yeah AMD cards have been out for weeks now lol. Have you just not been paying attention to tech news or review channels?

noble oak
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its a bit frustrating when they have all this hype and half the people cant even get them

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i havent

static pecan
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More like 99% of the people can't get them

noble oak
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not on pcs

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i have been researching the A1 chip for a bit

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i only research release dates when i want to purchase something for myself

static pecan
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So basically you just want the best of the best and don't care what the price tag is or what reviews say about certain products then?

noble oak
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i care about reviews

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i mean who doesnt want the best of the best

static pecan
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Anyone that isn't rich which is 99% of the DIY PC community

noble oak
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I do wonder how apple is going to do in the next couple of years if they keep making their own processors

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their new chip is great considering its their first laptop cpu

viral echo
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is there anyway to make this cheaper

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what if i change to GPU to a 1660 or 1650

crimson scroll
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get the b450m pro4, isn't it around the same price as the b450m ds3h

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also i'd go for the nr400 or nr600 over that case

gilded frost
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Ryzen 3 3100 for 196?

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Prices are jacked

static pecan
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They can charge more for last gen since that's the only thing readily available. Prices on last gen parts won't decrease until probably mid-2021 at the earliest when supply of new CPUs and GPUs has leveled out to meet the insane initial demand

trail mesa
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what would be a good budget friendly GPU on the market?

devout wolf
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what's your budget?

native ridge
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can you recommend me some leds for the room?

elfin ember
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Saucy Raichu

tough hazel
elfin ember
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it is ok

tough hazel
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so its gonna fit all together?

crimson scroll
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i'd say we need to get pins that mention you need to have a budget and use case in mind

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but nobody would read them anyways

elfin ember
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yes

crimson scroll
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the 9400f is old you can do better

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h510 has no airflow

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you wouldn't need a third party cooler for that cpu anyways

elfin ember
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and that motehr board

crimson scroll
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is fine for that cpu

elfin ember
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ok

tough hazel
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i just threw together what was cheap and looked good enough

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ok i took out the cooler and changed the motherboard

crimson scroll
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still using the same cpu...

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you sent the same list again

rustic furnace