Can you make one thatās small
#š»-building-a-pc
gilded frost
Small as in what? @stuck pelican . If you ask something just put some detail into it.
@crimson scroll PSU?
stuck pelican
Like the person in the tiktok had a small case I think the case was an InWin A1 case so I was saying is their anything I can do to get a good build with my budget and case
crimson scroll
you could get an nr400 instead
that's matx
mobo is already matx, i didn't check compatibility with gpu length
stuck pelican
The motherboard in your build?
crimson scroll
what about it
stuck pelican
I mean the build you put together in the pc part picker
crimson scroll
Yeah, what about it
stuck pelican
The motherboard would go good with the nr400
crimson scroll
Everything else will fit except for potentially the gpu, like I said above
There's no large tower cooler or aio so the cpu cooling won't be an issue
oh i forgot a psu
stuck pelican
Do you know what gpu would fit or something. I donāt know a lot about PCs and stuff
crimson scroll
well
on pcpp it'll specify gpu length
and also on pcpp or the manufacturer website for the cases it'll specify max supported gpu length
so you can just check to see if the gpu you want will fit
nr400 w/o ODD supports up to 410mm gpus
so pretty much all factory gpus will be fine
stuck pelican
Ok
gilded frost
Iām not sure if PCP has the Gpu length on it, you might need to go to website they sell it off to find out .
The 3070 is larger then other cards but not by much, it should be able to fit but make sure you find out
calm forge
tiny 3070 go brrr
gilded frost
I was talking about the base founders edition care, since thatāll probably be the average size for the cards. usually I get the length of the selling website
devout wolf
Iām sorry in what world did the 3300x beat the 9600k and 8600k
noble oak
Itās just personal preference
devout wolf
lmao
that sounds a lot like userbenchmark
in their personal preference 10th gen intel still beats zen 3
you do realize personal preference means jack in terms of actual performance
noble oak
I should reword it to what I can afford, amd all the way
devout wolf
i mean sure if you really want to fanboy for brands
noble oak
I donāt like intel
tall cove
@crimson scroll I left the teacher alone for like a day and now he is trying to get a Asus ROG Strix B450-F instead of the casual mobos i recommended lmao
devout wolf
meme board
cedar herald
LMAo
tall cove
But itās their full gaming looking one with rgb
I said why and he only responded Newegg sale
devout wolf
it has less rgb than the tomahawk
crimson scroll
If the teacher is not particularly tech savvy, maybe give him a strict list with links to where to buy everything
@noble oak why don't you like intel? it's fine to dislike the fact that they haven't really improved very much for a long time since there was no competition...but if their chips are better for what you want to do for an equivalent price, i would totally go intel. if you didn't like intel because they were exploiting child labor or something i'd get why you wouldn't buy their stuff
mortal patrol
I don't like Intel because they never served me well <w<
crimson scroll
why is that a bad thing
people don't buy intel chips with integrated graphics to game on, they buy them either for a backup display out or because you don't need any heavy graphics computing power
would you rather they just didn't include integrated graphics? the price difference between modern F and non F chips is like $10-20
crimson scroll
if you don't know what i'm talking about, why do you care that they created a certain igpu
devout wolf
@noble oak you do realize that like 90% of AMD chips don't even have an iGPU?
and also, intel iris graphics exists
i mean by that logic, you should hate AMD because they made the FX series at one point of time
bold drum
hes making a joke
crimson scroll
pretty bad joke
bold drum
welp you got pissed at him for that
crimson scroll
i didn't get pissed?
bold drum
ok
noble oak
yes u did
crimson scroll
uh huh
an internet stranger who's read seven sentences of mine knows my feelings better than i do
i didn't get pissed, i just posed some questions so you could clarify your point
nowhere did I insult you or say anything about my own feelings that would indicate I was pissed, and if you think the way I worded the questions was me being pissed, you've never seen me pissed before lol
hi
gilded frost
If you classify being mature as pissed then reject is right on the money . You asked a question , got a reasonable response from reject and two of you start ranting on him being āpissedā. Grow up you two . @bold drum @noble oak
bold drum
i didnt rant on anything
noble oak
keyboard
bold drum
it seemed to me like he was pissed cuz someone was shit talking intel i didnt escalate any further and i didnt rant on anything either
i said hes making a joke and the he said pretty bad joke so i thought he was pissed.
I dont hang around people that get pissed that much either
crimson scroll
everyone is blowing this up to be bigger than it needs to be. They misunderstood me as being pissed, I have reiterated that I was not pissed, let's move on
bold drum
yeah i didnt want to escalate any further
noble oak
@noble oak why don't you like intel? it's fine to dislike the fact that they haven't really improved very much for a long time since there was no competition...but if their chips are better for what you want to do for an equivalent price, i would totally go intel. if you didn't like intel because they were exploiting child labor or something i'd get why you wouldn't buy their stuff
@crimson scroll they bring out the same products again and again, the chips evolve 2 times in a decade (thatās bending the truth a little, you get the point)
crimson scroll
sure, but i think you should always buy the chip that's the right choice for the job
toxic raftBOT
Saucy Raichu#4498 has been warned
crimson scroll
oh come on
donkey butt
kickass
anyways
it makes more sense to buy the chip that's right for the job; back when it was bulldozer on amd's side, you wouldn't buy that for a gaming chip against the equivalent intel chip out of principle, would you? no, you'd probably get the better cpu and make amd improve or die
even up to the 10600k vs the 3600/3700x, i still recommended the 10600k for pure gaming purposes because it was better, and I didn't like intel's stagnation either.
devout wolf
even the 10400 is better than the 3600 in gaming but you need to spend more on the motherboard
weary sorrel
what is a good build for $800 my brother is gonna get a pc soon?
gilded frost
Whatās it going to be used for
weary sorrel
gaming and school
gilded frost
Well you could probably do school on a i3 550. What kind of games?
weary sorrel
valorant cod gmod minecraft and gta
oblique nova
Hey will the MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK work with Zen 3 chips?
weary sorrel
Oh those donāt take too much power
@bold drum so what should i get?
gilded frost
Gta and cod take hell ton of power. Maybe something like this. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xFvjHz . Should have good future options. You take what you can get at $800 really.
gilded frost
The gpu power is what it pulls the most?
bold drum
yeah but it doesnt take too much
gilded frost
@oblique nova Yes all B-550 Board's with AM4 Socket's will be Zen 3 compatible
Yes it does
Especially from a lower end graphics card, you will be pulling 100% or around that easily, as you progress up maybe into the 2000 range, unless you're on very stressful settings, it'll stick around 80-90 on high settings. Then you have the new 3000 Series and 6000 series, so it continues on like that .
bold drum
for example if you play on a low end graphics card you may go anywhere from 30-60 fps
gilded frost
Whilst pulling 100% of your gpu power
bold drum
on a low end card @gilded frost said himself it will be pulling around 100% but you can score pretty cheap gpu
that can run decent
gilded frost
Well yes theres some good lower end cards, but like I said before, the more stress you put on your gpu the more power it uses, its common sense
A new modern card like the 3090 won't get stressed over 4k 60fps. But a card such as a 1660 would
or a 5500XT that being
bold drum
well good luck building your pc @weary sorrel i dont know too much about which parts to pick so im out
gilded frost
I was giving suggestion's to Fire, the one that's asking for some help..
On with your night though
gilded frost
You could probably get a 5600 with 3070
crimson scroll
Motherboard is expensive. Good features but probably more than you need, and also yuck msi
Psu seems fine, bit expensive
gilded frost
@oblique nova Using it for gaming? It would also be better if you gave a budget.
gilded frost
Monitor is terribly over priced
crimson scroll
Low 2000 is very much doable
oblique nova
I was looking for a curved 1440p moniter
crimson scroll
You can do 1440p 144hz high or 4k 60fps at that budget
crimson scroll
I'd wait for the rx6000 series to build
oblique nova
which one would you suggest to fit what i am trying to get
crimson scroll
Do you specifically like curved over flat
oblique nova
i want a curved which is why i was choosing those
crimson scroll
I don't have much experience with those, sorry
gilded frost
Gigabyte G27QC
oblique nova
I dont really know much about the rx6000 series
gilded frost
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9xHGq Kind of made some obvious fixes, I'm not sure about the motherboard .
oblique nova
What was wrong with the ram
gilded frost
Well nothing but your budget was in the low 2000's so you have room for it
crimson scroll
Nobody knows much about the rx6000 series but it looks like it'll be competitive with the pricing and specs
So wait for third party benchmarks
gilded frost
Should be able to stream 4k high settings at 60 fps
very high or anything above high maybe 1440p at 60 fps
oblique nova
So the entire build could handle it?
gilded frost
Most likely but I would go watch some benchmarks on it
crimson scroll
A single stick of 8gb ram...
They do this because people will buy anyways because of the scarcity. So annoying
At least you can return the ram and lose the combo deal
static pecan
Lol well they also buried the links to the individual CPUs on launch day and only showed the bundle deals at the top
Of course Newegg literally didn't even sell the individual CPUs themselves
They just launched as out of stock
crimson scroll
they did sell individuals at some point
they just sold out instantly
i've seen posts on reddit of people who did get them
it's a bit of the same issue as with the 3000 series launch where people buy whatever they can, then go on reddit and facebook to swap for the card they really want
crimson scroll
usually not
for the same price, you usually get parts that perform worse, and a lot of prebuilts come in cases that have terrible airflow
in terms of build quality, if you're not careful, you could end up with a sloppy build when you do it yourself. If you get it from a SI, you could also end up with glued down usb 3.0 cables, disconnected sata cables, loose power cables, etc.
however, prebuilts usually come with a fully integrated warranty
as opposed to having to deal with individual warranties for each part when you build yourself
and if you're building/buying for somebody else, it's nice to not have to be tech support
bold drum
Mmm so Iād be better building one for myself
Maybe Iāll just go to micro center and ask for help there
crimson scroll
if you invest some time into learning how to properly build it, yes
not a bad idea
bold drum
I could ask for consulting there and build it myself depending on prices anyhow
crimson scroll
while microcenter does have good prices on some stuff, you don't have to and probably shouldn't buy it all there
lots of stuff is still cheaper elsewhere or unavailable at microcenter
but their cpu+mobo combo deals are usually a pretty safe bet
crimson scroll
speaking of microcenter
if you DID want to go prebuilt, their powerspec prebuilts are one of the two i can give a recommendation to
usually when they're on sale
the other is from puget systems
bold drum
Iāve heard powespec is good
crimson scroll
and the best investment you can make is into yourself, not a physical product
bold drum
Do micro center usually give you options to buy from other retailers?
True
Like parts and stuff
crimson scroll
what do you mean
it's not like they can bar you from buying something from amazon
bold drum
Like if they donāt have the stock will they order you parts from other retailers or is it up to you to finish the build
crimson scroll
it's up to you to finish it
they do price match based on availability and other stuff
but yeah, if you want a specific gpu model and they don't have it, they'll offer you other ones they have in stock but won't go buy it for you
bold drum
Ok thanks! Iām pretty new in making PCs thanks for your advice
crimson scroll
np
bold drum
Iām just gonna make a build online show it to the enployee and ask suggestions . Iāll also ask here tho
gilded frost
Well after seeing Linus' video , I wouldn't suggest that, lol.
@crimson scroll Micro center used to have a problem of pairing high end cpu's with mid tier gpu's, have they fixed that? That was a big turn off
crimson scroll
i dunno
i showed them my parts list, was a 1060 and 2600 at the time, they recommended me a different motherboard, some models of the 1060
was a good time
i ended up returning that gpu and getting a bstock off of evga for like $100 cheaper but in general the employee was fairly knowledgeable
gilded frost
Yeah a bunch of these companies hire this intermediate callers. What surprises me most is not their knowledge of computers, but there in coherent speech. Theyāre speaking off a script and canāt even do it right. I watched a couple minutes of Linusā video before I had to close it because of the dell woman. Then again maybe those are the people who are willing to be paid that little, lol. Got to get money one way though, especially now
gilded frost
Oh, Iāve only been to micro center a few times, first was for a buddies pc , and some other times for fixing some old laptops and hardware I have
Yeah all companies try to get those competent store employees
static pecan
Yeah lol listening to the Dell woman in the Secret Shopper #2 LTT video last week caused me physical pain
static pecan
Yep, pretty much
gilded frost
The accent made it that much better too, lol.
static pecan
My favorite was the guy with the roosters
gilded frost
Haha, eventually I turned it back on and heard that
The entire thing was well coordinated, Iām not too big of Linusā personality . Ruins the video sometimes when heās being a spoiled brat
static pecan
Honestly the roosters were 10x better than most of the other waiting music
gilded frost
Lol
noble oak
Yo can yall reccomend me a gaming pc at like 1kā¬
pine dove
well, that depends on what you want, cause i cant just name a computer without naming every spec
sand patrol
@cedar herald for a prebuilt i think so, but you could save urself money by building it yourself
cedar herald
ya its for my friend he wants a prebuilt
oblique nova
Is it worth choosing a different case just to have a spot for a disk drive or should i just buy an external one?
cedar herald
internal drives have better speeds
oblique nova
ye ik but right now i have the p400A case picked out because it has really good airflow so i dont want to pick a different case.
meager yew
my brothers cpu just died so i have a small project now and i dont have to spend my own money on it
oblique nova
@crimson scroll yes that is what i meant
oblique nova
alright i just wanted one because sometimes i like to watch movies on my pc
crimson scroll
you still use disks for that? interesting
oblique nova
My family and I have lots of them and they are not all on netflix or disney+
crimson scroll
yep, still sounds like an external drive job to me
oblique nova
thx
crimson scroll
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sH6pBc tear it apart, guys. Planned build for after graduation, so obviously prices of stuff might change, yada yada. 32gb of memory because I like messing with memory OC and apparently it provides a larger boost than 4x8 or 2x8, although that seems to be dependent on single vs dual rank.
thinking of adding a 2721dgf as well, make the 19dgf a secondary
static pecan
Considering most of that list is already purchased I'd say everything else looks pretty solid
oblique nova
Where did you find the p500A case because I cant find it in stock anywhere without paying 330 dollars?
crimson scroll
uh
i'm not really worried about current stock
the black drgb one is out of stock but the white one is in stock on newegg though
oblique nova
-k
crimson scroll
@static pecan you missed that i didn't put a motherboard lmao
static pecan
Lmao I've been looking at so many parts lists lately they all blend together after awhile I guess š
static pecan
Yeah it looks good and even has some more features over the X570 Aorus Elite board I'm planning to get like rear USB-C and 2.5g lan for $20 less
gilded frost
Does the 6800 Xt out preform a 3080 or are you purchasing for the stock?
crimson scroll
it's supposed to outperform the 3080
by that time, we'll have the third party benchmarks
gilded frost
Yeah hopefully. Also the power supply, A bit much unless you plan on upgrading?
meager yew
never go down on power
crimson scroll
that's not true klinge
gilded frost
To an extent
crimson scroll
nvidia recommends a 600w psu for the 1080ti, i run a 520w, works fine
crimson scroll
i did a calculation a while ago in this channel
you could probably run a 2080ti and a 10600k on my psu
gilded frost
Cutting it close Iād guess
lean quarry
Is this a good list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ is still dont know wich rtx 3080 i am going for.
deep scroll
Lmao that's the exact list I have
crimson scroll
you put the link to the editor
not your specific list
that's why waffles saw his own list
if done correctly, it won't take you to an editor, but rather a fixed parts list that you then have to choose to edit
gilded frost
At the very top of the page on pc part picker [not the tab part] it has a copy link or some sort of writing . Click it, and then it will create the link. Or you go to the top of your page and copy it
crimson scroll
gilded frost
Does the new 5000 series come with stock coolers?
devout wolf
only the 5600x so far
comes with a wraith stealth cause it's surprisingly a 65w tdp cpu
dusky vault
Guys, I need help picking display. Which one should i choose
- 17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz 9ms 300-nits 72% NTSC color gamut.
Or - 17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz 9ms 300-nits 72% NTSC color gamut with NVIDIA G-SYNC Technology. (+$20)
Or - 17.3" UHD (3840 x 2160) 60Hz 25ms 500-nits 100% Adobe RGB color gamut + Tobii Eyetracking technology. (+$280)
static pecan
It's probably the display options for a 17' laptop
static pecan
I would personally go with the gsync since it's only a $20 premium
But 4K on a laptop, especially a gaming laptop, is just dumb lol
devout wolf
response time is slower than the refresh rate too lol
static pecan
Oof
static pecan
Read the manual of your mobo my guy @noble oak
static pecan
Sounds like a personal problem then
noble oak
Oh no
gilded frost
Your statement in general made 0 sense @noble oak . How many ram sticks do you have?
noble oak
2
gilded frost
So you have your motherboard right now?
gilded frost
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zXvvj2
This'll be my upgraded build. I would like to kick off some video editing and some streaming, followed by work. Also wanted to put some of my own taste into the build. I choose the 2tb single M.2 to store games on. The 8tb drive for possible future video editing/creation. At first glance, I wanted to go with the 3900x threadripper, but I wanted to stick to a budget of under 6,500. So I decided to put in the 5950x since it has better clocking speed's and 16 cores is personally going to be enough for me and any video editing for a while. Went with the Crosshair VIII Formula because of the high overclocking capabilities on the ram, and the compatibility with a 22110 M.2 if they become cheaper in a couple of years. Has all the USB ports in the world followed by Wifi 6 [Nothing Special] and 1*5 g ethernet. The 6900XT is alleged to have a slight advantage over the 3090 and helps match my budget, hence my choice of that. Went with Lian-Li since their products are usually and mostly from my experience very well built and easily maintainable . 1000W platinum power supply for any severe overclocking or future upgrades throughout the system. 6 case fan's for the size of the Lian-Li Xl Case. My monitor's are all over the place Put they're all the same length and have adjustable height. I won't exactly need a 280hz monitor when I get a 360 hz monitor, so I might swap it out and through in a second G27QC, good price for the hz and resolution. 65 inch 4k QLED UHD HDR tv , put this so I can add that personality to the room, mount it too a wall and it'll make the room more 'vibrant' , also would help if I have any buddies over or the younger ones in the family. Don't need the best speakers and they would most likely be cosmetic, the webcam is for any future streaming or work related calls in general. Just got some extra thermal paste to make sure everything is perfect for a build of this size. Can anyone double over this build? 1/2
...Make any suggestions or toss up some ideas of any future products coming to retailers, thanks.
devout wolf
Iām too lazy
@noble oak then use google...
A2 and B2 most commonly
or the slots that aren't black
sometimes they might be black tho
noble oak
Mines black
devout wolf
just put them in A2 and B2
noble oak
So 2nd and 4th?
devout wolf
yes
noble oak
Ight
devout wolf
good luck when you install a m.2 drive and your sata drives don't show up
oblique nova
Should I use the stock cooler that comes with the 5600x or use a 3rd party one?
devout wolf
stock
crimson scroll
do you want to do any overclocking, either on the cpu or gpu?
@gilded frost why no pcie 4.0 ssd
lean quarry
Is the AOC CQ32G1 32" QHD a good gaming monitor?
lean quarry
And the MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI motherboard or should i get a other one
crimson scroll
out of principle, I wouldn't get msi motherboards
lean quarry
Then what one should i get for a am4 motherboard
crimson scroll
depends on your budget and what features you need
lean quarry
My budget is to a max of 250 for the motherboard
crimson scroll
i meant like
overall budget
usually it's smarter to look at overall budget unless you're very good at placing prices on specific items
lean quarry
I made a pc part picker list but i need to make it again and i want to do it tomorrow because i dont got any time now so
crimson scroll
okay then come back tomorrow
lean quarry
Ye i will bye šš¼
brazen palm
@lean quarry Always go ASUS ā¤ļø
lean quarry
Ok thankd @brazen palm
crimson scroll
that is also a bad idea
lean quarry
?
brazen palm
How?
crimson scroll
brand loyalty is stupid
brazen palm
You realize they generally have the best boards?
crimson scroll
every brand makes good and bad products
brazen palm
MSI boards and Gigabyte are just awful
crimson scroll
prove it
lean quarry
Then wich mobo should i go
lean quarry
Like?
crimson scroll
but blindly saying "always asus" is ridiculous
brazen palm
I had a Z490 from MSI and switched to a z490-e from asus
No, not at all. The UEFI firmware on asus boards is basically one of the best I've used
crimson scroll
lets say you wanted some specific rgb features
some of the ROG boards lack certain rgb headers
lean quarry
It has to have am4 as type
brazen palm
Please don't include RGB as a feature, look at things like VRMs and such
crimson scroll
that's great. that's not the only feature on a board though billy
oh my god
you're an idiot
crimson scroll
some people care about it
brazen palm
Performance over RGB
lean quarry
Na fam rgb scares off little monsters that steal your frames
crimson scroll
there's also other things like price
it is absolutely nonsensical to claim that you should always go with one brand over all others
are you going to always go with a toyota car over a honda? no, you're going to look at what features it has, what price, and what's relevant to your use case
obviously some companies might have a better history of certain features and you can take that into account
but you need to do exactly that, take it into account
brazen palm
I've had the best luck with ASUS including many of my tech savy friends.
brazen palm
ASUS has great boards in the higher end
brazen palm
My use case, isn't much different than most likely you here
brazen palm
Yes, such as Crosshair and such
brazen palm
I wonder if gamers here use IOMMU, hmm
crimson scroll
you gonna put a crosshair with a 3400g?
brazen palm
I would happily put a B550
lean quarry
Na my max is 250 for the mobo
crimson scroll
quinn, we're not talking about you
lean quarry
Hey @crimson scroll @brazen palm i am going with the amd ryzen 5 5600X
brazen palm
Gaming, like what are you planning for + budget. I can throw a system together in pcpartpicker
lean quarry
I have a little time
brazen palm
Are you running Linux, Windows?
brazen palm
Okay, budget?
noble oak
hey my mate built me a pc on pcpartpicker, and Im not much of a Pc guy, am i able to drop the link and get your guys thoughts on it
brazen palm
Sure
lean quarry
I will make one tommorow on pc part picker
noble oak
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TRhvj2 here is the PC
crimson scroll
i'd drop the hyper 212. any reason you're going with the 3700x?
static pecan
Lmao what the hell did I just walk in on @crimson scroll?
crimson scroll
good case choice, meh ram choice, meh motherboard choice
brazen palm
Remove the CPU cooler since the stock one is good, Add an SSD, switch WD Blue out for a 2TB HDD from segate for like 59 bucks,
get your ram to 3600 mhz, and go 5600X
crimson scroll
uh
brazen palm
Want me to put one together?
static pecan
Also at least get a small SSD for the boot drive if it fits in budget
noble oak
I Will soon, the pc isn't affordable yet but my dad has parts for me, and he said that the parts that i have there are good
brazen palm
It's not well balanced well
crimson scroll
if you're doing production, for example, the 3700x can make sense on a budget
so we need to know use case and budget
brazen palm
The parts I would switch out, motherboard you can choose, but just get a b550, and the case you can change
The 5700XT is a great deal, but I'm not a fan of the AMD control panel, but still
crimson scroll
the sn550 500gb is cheaper and better than the p1
crimson scroll
meshify c requires additional case fans to reach a decent cooling potential
lots of other cases around that new price point that have good airflow
brazen palm
I persoanlly use an aged air 540 š
brazen palm
I know]
crimson scroll
i would switch to UK pcpp
brazen palm
Still it's a great value
crimson scroll
you can get a gigabyte gaming/OC for pretty much the same price
brazen palm
Then go gigabyte then
crimson scroll
i don't recommend msi products right now because of their recent scandals
crimson scroll
not because their products are necessarily bad from a price/performance standpoint
in fact i've often said they've had some really good products
static pecan
@crimson scroll do you think the P2 1TB M.2 for $83 is a good deal? Thinking of snagging it while it's on sale rn at Newegg for a second M.2 drive in my build
static pecan
š thanks
crimson scroll
has hmb, 2400/1900, e13t controller, TLC. Seems good
static pecan
That's what I thought, just wanted a second opinion before pulling the trigger. The Ballistix RAM kit I wanna get is also on sale today so I'll probably grab that too
crimson scroll
why 4x8? significantly cheaper than 2x16?
static pecan
With the current sale the 4x8 is around the same price or cheaper than most of the other 2x16 kits + Zen 3 can actually benefit from 4x8 3600
crimson scroll
or do you have a t toplogy board
yeah, i'm waiting for GN's follow up video
supposedly it has to do with dual vs single rank
another reviewer had 2x16 work better than 4x8 or 2x8
static pecan
Lol I just checked and that black 4x8 kit is actually $5 cheaper than the black Ballistix 2x16 kit
crimson scroll
personally if you're into memory OC, and you want those gains for zen 3, I would get the 2x16, i'm assuming your board is daisy chain
static pecan
I've never really gotten into mem OC that much mostly because I just don't have time for all that lol
crimson scroll
fair
you don't need to do memtest86 anymore though, there's a different one that runs without needing to reboot, and catches most errors very quickly
tall cove
Before I full send it and go potentially buy a 3070, is it worth it to have a 3070 with a i5-9400f or is that an unnecessary combo
crimson scroll
seems a bit imbalanced. what are you doing with the system, what res/refresh rate
tall cove
Iād be just gaming and school. Iād be partnering it with 2 monitors, I believe one monitor would be 144 at the least, 2 144 at the most
Still trying to make a dream set up
crimson scroll
you already own the 9400f i assume
crimson scroll
the thing is, if you're going 1080p, the 3070 is a bit overkill...and if you're going 1440p, the cpu matters a bit less, but the 9400f will struggle a bit. It depends on the games, of course
tall cove
Would you say if I switched just to like a 9th Gen i7 would be more beneficial. I donāt think I could jump to 10th just due to that being a different socket set and I would rather not explain to my parents how a new mobo and gpu showed up to our door
crimson scroll
right
what motherboard do you have
the 9400f is locked and you might have bought a motherboard that can't OC as a result
tall cove
B365 HD3 Gigabyte
crimson scroll
yeah, you can't really OC on that chipset
tall cove
When building I just said cheap = needed, should have done more research but haste makes waste, I can always just say this is one build and then build on another
The z set is for OC right?
crimson scroll
yea
devout wolf
both oc and unlocked memory speed
crimson scroll
hm....i don't know that it would be worth it to go to a 9700 then
tall cove
Understandable
Well there is a Best Buy not too far that potentially has a FE 3070 in stock
crimson scroll
you could totally get a 3070, wait to upgrade the cpu, etc. You'd just be slightly mismatched all the time
what's your current gpu?
crimson scroll
6gb is spec
yeah, if that's not doing it for you, the 3070 is fine. Kinda sucks we don't have a new gen card that could slot between the 5700xt/3070 for cheaper
tall cove
Yeah it was 6, checked Newegg.
devout wolf
i'm confused as to why there is an 8gb 5500xt but the 5600xt only had 6gb
weird segmenting...
crimson scroll
that is weird
static pecan
So I ended up going with a 2x16 kit of 3600/CL16 Trident Z because the 4x8 ballistix kit was out of stock when I tried to buy it 
crimson scroll
Nice
static pecan
How exactly does the RGB on the ram work? Is it just controlled through the mobo software?
crimson scroll
gskill has a program you download for their ram
you may need to enable something in bios as well
static pecan
š
crimson scroll
upon further review, it looks like the bios tweaking is only really necessary for asus x99 boards
static pecan
Even better lol
devout wolf
How exactly does the RGB on the ram work? Is it just controlled through the mobo software?
@static pecan yeah mobo software
way better than their software
if you want to get into more detail, it uses SMBus registers through DIMM to control the rgb
static pecan
Yeah I looked into it a little more and the modules sync with RGB Fusion
devout wolf
hope you like to set your rgb to one color and forget about it
cause rgb fusion sucks to use
static pecan
That's exactly what I'm going to do lol
devout wolf
youāre good then
probably can do it in the bios and never have to touch their absolute excuse of an rgb software
static pecan
Lmao I guess I'll find out
crimson scroll
hey, i have rgb fusion and it works fine for me....solid purple and nothing else lol
works well as a night light
otherwise i'd just have it off
static pecan
Purple RGB gang!
bold drum
Hey guys if you have a 1440p monitor and set display resolution to 1080p will it downscale when I play video games at 1080? Or will it look the same. Just curious. Donāt know much about monitors either
crimson scroll
It looks kinda bad
You can't divide 1440 easily into 1080
Whereas 4k into 1080p is exact scaling
bold drum
So if I were to get a 49 monitor and set display res to 1080 would it look better or worse?
lean quarry
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Q4QPV is this a good list?
static pecan
Yeah I was about to say why do you have a 360 aio for a 5600X lol
crimson scroll
also that motherboard seems overkill
and depending on use case, 32gb might be excessive amounts of ram
SSD seems fine, could probably pick up an sx8200 pro around the same price
native wolf
Yeah the cooler is a bit overkill
You could air cool with Noctua / Be quiet for performance + no noise
crimson scroll
or other cheaper coolers that are also very quiet
the 5600x isn't a very high tdp part
something like the le grand macho rt, scythe fuma 2/mugen rev b./ninja 5, etc
gilded frost
5600x with a 3080 might have a bit of a bottle neck , no?
The Samsung 970 evo plus has about 1,500 mbps more read and write speeds for about 30 bucks more, might be a good choice for you
The power supply might be a little overpriced
obsidian karma
i agree with everything he said^
except for the fact that the 5600x would be a bottle neck
at 1440p the 5600x shouldnt have an issue
1080p is a different story
devout wolf
5600x with a 3080 might have a bit of a bottle neck , no?
@gilded frost not really
1080p is a different story
@obsidian karma lets be honest, you need to rethink your decisions if youāre going to pair a 3080 with a 1080p monitor
did i miss something? Does the 5600x not perform better than a stock 10900k in gaming anymore? Why is it suddenly a bottleneck
gilded frost
I doubt a 5600x preforms higher then a 10900k in gaming, maybe the 5700x but the 5600x is definitely a stretch. My thing about the bottleneck is that the 5600x is the āworstā or basically going to be their new budget cpu, so youād expect them to have it at budget speeds, which isnāt really the case but it is. All around I would just feel uncomfortable pairing a 5600x with a 3080. Personal preference I presume
gilded frost
Wow, just went through pc part picker and there's a brand selling 3080's that are actually in shock.
lean quarry
I am going to do mostly gaming and i went for water cooling because i want to overclock and it looks lots and lots more fancy
and i am going for 1440p
crimson scroll
@gilded frost you're wrong
shreds the 10900k in nearly every game
....you get the point
loses out in assassins creed and rdr2
also the 5700x doesn't currently exist
lean quarry
Wich motherboard should i go for in this system https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Q4QPV
crimson scroll
could go for something $100 cheaper like the gigabyte aorus pro/aorus elite and still have a kickass motherboard
lavish kraken
tall cove
I think they are saying " Hey! Want a PC that might break? Probably not, then get this."
crimson scroll
i guess
tall cove
But its still incorrect imo
crimson scroll
i mean...it probably won't break?
tall cove
Most dont lol
gilded frost
Thought they announced the 5700x, whoops. Meant the 5800x.
@lean quarry 360 radiator for a 5600x hasnāt begun to cross your mind yet?
@crimson scroll Thatās nuts (the benchmarks) . I just havenāt come across any, or looked up any for the new series since I wanted to wait for third party benchmarks , official ones that being. Intel got the hands given to them but I never thought this badly, just wow.
crimson scroll
...third party benchmarks have been out since release day of zen 3
and yeah, 5600x stomps. Wish they had a 5600
gilded frost
Never knew that š, Iāll have a look at them.
Maybe they will in the future, but I doubt they would. Their current line is going to kill intel
crimson scroll
well, 11th gen intel is rumored to also have double digit ipc increases
so we'll see
it all depends on price/perf
even if intel loses out in performance, they may become what amd was a couple years ago
gilded frost
@lavish kraken Case has no airflow, PSU is over priced, ram is 20 bucks cheaper on new egg, and all of the older graphics cards are extremely over priced right now
Yeah, and the past two generations, AMD has dominated that section.
I feel as if intel is keeping their popularity because of the creators and streamers who broadcast themselves using intel products
crimson scroll
they have a large notebook and ad market share for sure
half of all the csgo events I watch have direct intel branding
and at least another fourth have intel as a sponsor
gilded frost
Yeah, Linus occasionally has been sponsored by intel. Iād say a vast majority of people purchasing from a specific ad or person, come from Linus. If that makes any sense
crimson scroll
mmmmmm i don't know the numbers on that
gilded frost
The reason I say that is just due to the fact of his following and his imprint on pc building/buying
valid oar
h
crimson scroll
depends on what metric you use
lean quarry
What mobo should i go for around 200 bucks maybe a gigabyte or asus or something?
crimson scroll
why do you specifically want a $200 motherboard
I already recommended a high end one that is honestly probably overkill
since you're mostly just doing gaming
lean quarry
Sorry i mean a max of 200 bucks
crimson scroll
you would be fine with anything from a b550m pro4 to a tuf gaming x570-plus
noble oak
200$ you got a lot of options
crimson scroll
also gigabyte has apparently denoted select preflashed b550/b450 boards with v2
so those will be zen3 compatible
somehow the b550 aorus pro AC is cheaper than the b550 aorus pro
gilded frost
The Ryzen 3600 is more expensive then the 3600x
gilded frost
What do you think third party sellers would price the 3070 at
And no word on a possible 3060 yet
astral belfry
I uploaded a yt video unboxing the stuff I got but Iām not gonna put it here since itās against the rules
crimson scroll
3070s are going for 500 to 600 depending on the model
glacial seal
Hi guys!
crimson scroll
hi
glacial seal
Just wanna ask, just got a ryzen5 3600g on an a320 with 16gb of ram for basic league gaming, looking to get a cheap amd video card. What should i go for?
crimson scroll
probably around a 470, 460. depends on res and refresh rate
glacial seal
i see. my monitor is crappy, just a generic 24inch one
crimson scroll
i assume you mean the 3600, there's no g variant of that cpu
and that probably means 1080p60hz
a 470 can hit around 150 or higher fps in 1080p max settings but it depends on if you're in a battle or not
on the nvidia side of things, maybe look at something like a 1050ti, 1650/s, etc
any reason you specifically mentioned an amd card?
crimson scroll
you don't even need a video card to play league on the 3400g
glacial seal
yeah, but planning on playing and streaming newer titles in the future
crimson scroll
something like the cards i mentioned would work well then, if you want to have a little more wiggle room, maybe a 480/1650s/1660
those would do well for 1080p high refresh rate
gilded frost
For anyone that say's they have an "infinite" budget. Gladly send them this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gbPZJf
gilded frost
Base Total: $597035.83
Shipping: $4.82
Total: $597040.65
crimson scroll
not even free shipping
anyways, if somebody says they have an infinite budget it's nice to go crazy and splurge
tall cove
Still trying to figure out new monitors for a dual set up
ASUS VG248QG
Found this one, dont know how i feel about it
crimson scroll
seems fine
crimson scroll
depends on what features you want
gaming performance should all mostly be the same
you need to look at noise, size, and other miscellaneous features
dual bios, modding plugin support, etc
lean quarry
A nice look and trustable
gilded frost
Just the plain founders edition is very nice, great cooling as well.
lean quarry
Ye but i guess the coming 5 years the founders edition wont be available
noble oak
For anyone that say's they have an "infinite" budget. Gladly send them this http...
psu is only semi modular, wouldnt but again.
devout wolf
and?
ooh look i can detach my 24-pin and 8-pin EPS which I wouldāve plugged in anyway
only use of a full mod psu is custom cables... and extensions exist
crimson scroll
well yeah but if you're going for meme ultimate super extreme overkill budget
usually full modular is more expensive
although i went full modular and it was cheap
devout wolf
i see
wonder how much 8 supermicro motherboard modules would cost
and 8x e7-8890 v4s
gilded frost
@tall cove Link?
gilded frost
Yeah I just saw wow.
Under 400 bucks
Pair that with a Ryzen 5 5600x 16gb ram and other parts and you have yourself a great 1k pc
noble oak
Is the AMD ryzen 3 3300x good for a budget build? Is there anything better than that for cheaper or around the same price? Or are there just better options which I could consider?
It would be appreciated if someone could ping me when they have an answer. I am very new to building PCs and choosing my own parts so any help or info would help.
gilded frost
Yes.... but it really depends how much youāre willing to spend. People have a habit of going for Ryzen 3 3300x , or Ryzen 5 3600. Usually pc between 600-800 will utilize the 3600 as ābudget cpuā . Many PCs under that , even including some āhigher endā PCs use the Ryzen 3 3300x so it is a very good choice all around. Iād assume youāre using the budget pc for gaming as youāre going with Ryzen?
crimson scroll
also the 3300x is constantly out of stock so....you could look at the 3100 as a slightly more available option
also, the rx6800xt launched!
oh look, it's out of stock.
gilded frost
Haha
Instant
If a video gets 100k views on youtube recommending the 3300x its OOs for a month
crimson scroll
what i'm seeing is the 6800xt lags the 3080 in a lot of games
but it's close enough and at $50 cheaper, i'd probably pick the 6800xt
too bad the stock cooler sucks
and if you're doing 4k, the 3080 usually wins whereas at 1080p, the 6800xt does better
and the rx card still gets smashed in rt titles
gilded frost
Id rather pay the extra 50 bucks
crimson scroll
we'll see how partner models do
if they're not +$100 on top, then it makes the choice harder
gilded frost
Yeah usually third party companies will take over the cooling situation
elfin ember
is the 2800 super good for normal gaming pc
crimson scroll
the 2080 super? depends on resolution, refresh rate, and budget for the whole pc
and also what price you're getting it at
gilded frost
A 2080 super goes for thousands right now
crimson scroll
I haven't checked from retailers
But from r/hardwareswap? Should be no more than around 600
elfin ember
I saw it for 750 dollars it is the msi one
crimson scroll
there are multiple msi 2080 super
elfin ember
o
crimson scroll
and at 750, regardless of the model, i wouldn't get it considering the 3080 exists. Yeah, stock is very low, but unless you absolutely need a gpu right now, i'd just wait
elfin ember
yes
crimson scroll
all the normal retailers in your country that carry gpus
elfin ember
ok
crimson scroll
but like I said, stock is very low
elfin ember
I will look for it
gilded frost
Stock x is selling them but Iāve never heard of them before this series came out
So I donāt know how trusted theyāre
crimson scroll
...bidding?
gilded frost
You can also buy I believe
crimson scroll
this is why you pay by credit card
gilded frost
Yeah Iād like to see a picture of them
cedar herald
dont think it would be free returns if it is some knockoff headset
crimson scroll
chargeback protection is so strong
gilded frost
Well itās obviously a knock off headset if itās 30 bucks
cedar herald
imma order it bet
raw marsh
Stock x is selling them but Iāve never heard of them before this series came out
StockX is a massive corporation, I've used them to buy a few pairs of sneakers, they aren't too bad.
south glen
You want just the fan or the cooler to go with it?
raw marsh
Noctua U12S
raw marsh
I guess that fits your description
raw marsh
That is good, as long as you manage to snag a 3070
sturdy crescent
What refresh rate tho?
raw marsh
4K 144Hz for 300... really?
raw marsh
raw marsh
(144hz)
sturdy crescent
I dunno if 4K 144hz within 300 bucks is even possible
This is 4K and has low response time but itās only 60 hz
I recommend QHD 144hz
For QHD 144hz at that price range, this might be good:
The one Melker recommended is also a great option, as it has Gsync
raw marsh
Yeah for the price it is very good
calm forge
raw marsh
$69, kinda sus if you ask me
deep scroll
Was kinda bored so I got this list, how good would you say it is for an under $2500 PC build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ngBjnL
calm forge
triple 144hz displays
crimson scroll
3 144hz 1080p monitors with a 3080? you should really be doing 1440p 144hz, 4k 120hz at that point
deep scroll
Hmmm alright
calm forge
honestly swap out the other monitors for 60hz ones and spend that extra money on a better webcam
crimson scroll
and a better motherboard
and why the extra tube of thermal paste
stock cooler comes prepasted
gilded frost
Triple 144hz?
crimson scroll
third party coolers almost always come prepasted
deep scroll
I didn't actually know that the stock cooler had it, seems obvious now that I think about it, but I dunno
crimson scroll
I don't mind having a 1080p 144hz as a secondary, it's so nice to have 144hz
but you probably aren't using all three at the same time for a single game
deep scroll
I'm not very good with PCs, just putting something together
crimson scroll
just make one of them a primary and make it nicer imo
gilded frost
Yeah obviously. But instead of a third invest more into a 240 because the chances of you using a third are rare
crimson scroll
if your use case is racing or something, then go for it, do triple 1080p 144hz
gilded frost
Could get a better deal on the PSU probably. Atleast full modular for around the same price
Also your pc isnāt a sub $2,500 build. Add an extra 300 for the processor
gilded frost
All $202
Yeah I donāt know maybe itās shipping?
Just saying. I donāt think youāll need a 2 Tb ssd, even with todayās game. Thatās warzone 9 times over. Maybe drop a th for a 2tb 7200 rpm hd
crimson scroll
for a $2500 build i think its fine
my issue is that you could do a 1tb boot, 1tb storage drive for around the same price, and have the boot drive be better
whether you'll realize those performance gains or not is kinda iffy
but it's just a better part
gilded frost
Can change the price of windows 10 to around 15 thatās another 85 bucks
Maybe some bottleneck?
crimson scroll
what bottleneck
gilded frost
5600x to 3080
crimson scroll
why
gilded frost
6 cores
crimson scroll
jumping to a 5800x won't give you much more performance
gilded frost
Besides the cores/threads
crimson scroll
and to a 5900x doesn't make sense for gaming
gilded frost
How so?
crimson scroll
and plus 5900x to 5600x, you can actually gain performance
higher frequency on fewer cores
it depends on the game
if this was a production pc, sure
but yeah, for a $2500 build, i'd be looking at a better cpu cooler, a better ssd, better psu
deep scroll
okay
crimson scroll
really depends on what you're doing if you are gonna go triple 144hz 1080p monitors
deep scroll
I'll actually probably just go with a double
crimson scroll
you should really be going higher res to make use of that 3080
unless you plan on doing a 32:9 setup where you use both monitors for the game
in which case, just get a single 32:9 monitor
deep scroll
I'm not looking for a 32:9 setup
crimson scroll
or you're doing rtx minecraft/quake stuff
then maybe 1080p makes sense if that's your only game
deep scroll
I'm honestly not that good with PCs. I know some stuff, but I haven't tried putting a list together before, really.
elfin ember
is nividas rtx graphic cards better or g force I have a 1,200 dollar buget for one of them
noble oak
Yes.... but it really depends how much youāre willing to spend. People have a ha...
Thanks for the info š¤
crimson scroll
i mean, rtx cards also fall under the geforce banner
anyways, at 1,200 bucks, you're looking at a 3080 or 6900xt
thorn cradle
what is a good pc for a 1200 budget with nvida please let me know when you can, thanks!
crimson scroll
why specifically nvidia
do you want ray tracing or cuda acceleration?
and what are you doing with the system, gaming or productivity
thorn cradle
im using it for fortnite
and i dont need raytracing
mainly im goign for fps
but
if it helps with frams sure
@crimson scroll
crimson scroll
for fortnite you could go cheaper and have 1080p 144fps low settings easily
elfin ember
he wants frams and hd quatltey
thorn cradle
yes
crimson scroll
best i can do is frames and hd quality, sorry
crimson scroll
yes
elfin ember
thx
crimson scroll
what is that supposed to mean
crimson scroll
you mean a prebuilt
thorn cradle
yes
elfin ember
yes
thorn cradle
that
crimson scroll
i don't do prebuilts, sorry
thorn cradle
oh
crimson scroll
if you have a microcenter near you i'd look at their powerspec
thorn cradle
oh ok
crimson scroll
if you're going for more productivity, puget systems
thorn cradle
idk
crimson scroll
outside of that i don't do prebuilts
thorn cradle
so
thorn cradle
is what you gave under 1200
crimson scroll
for the most part they're not worth it
spend a little time, learn to build your own pc
if you have more money than time, and you can't be bothered to learn how to build, or the inclusive warranty is super important, or you're buying for somebody else and don't wanna be tech support, sure
elfin ember
ok
thorn cradle
@crimson scroll can u make the nvida better i can aford a little more
thorn cradle
yea
elfin ember
he wants 3700
crimson scroll
what else are you doing with your system?
thorn cradle
yea
crimson scroll
so yeah
thorn cradle
but u will use for gaming
crimson scroll
not gpu intensive
thorn cradle
also
elfin ember
ok
crimson scroll
fortnite 1080p on esports settings and schoolwork will be just fine on a 1660super
cedar herald
i assume you're in middle school
dafuq how did u know
thorn cradle
so how many frames will i get on fortnite about
thorn cradle
by the way they talk
u built differnt
cedar herald
lol
thorn cradle
lol
crimson scroll
thorn cradle
it looks good
rich niche
it looks good
rich niche
it looks good
no
thorn cradle
why?
crimson scroll
not sure what you mean by "it looks good" being gay
didn't know that words had sexual preferences
static pecan
Maybe some people are just really attracted to computers
calm forge
š¤·āāļø
elfin ember
i wonder
cloud mist
what would be the best mother board for an i9 990k cpu
crimson scroll
"best" in what category
cloud mist
well best or high performance
crimson scroll
high end would be maybe the meg z390 ace
or z390 aorus ultra
or rog maximus XI hero
all expensive
for if you want to overclock, want good vrms, etc
cloud mist
ok thanks š
crimson scroll
do you already have the 9900k?
otherwise i wouldn't really recommend getting it now
cloud mist
yeah i got one earlyer this week
crimson scroll
unfortunate
elfin ember
can you let me know if this is a good pc build for 1000 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s28ZcT
umm
I am going for perfromce