💻-building-a-pc

[crimson scroll]

and turn off fullscreen

[lavish kraken]

ok

[crimson scroll]

also you didn't show the rest of your screen

[lavish kraken]

but why?

i have msi on one acreen and heaven on the other

screen

do i show msi?

[crimson scroll]

it helps to see both at the same time

[lavish kraken]

oh ok

[crimson scroll]

okay now run unigine

[lavish kraken]

I USING 1920 ON A 1440 RES

also im getting smooth drames

300 fps

[crimson scroll]

cancel that and run ultra

my bad

[lavish kraken]

or more like 250-280

how do i cancel it!

ok done

now wut

quality at ultra?

[crimson scroll]

yes

[lavish kraken]

its already at high

i think its gonna be good :)

[crimson scroll]

and anti aliasing all the way up

[lavish kraken]

oh woops

[crimson scroll]

the point isn't to make it look good

the point is to stress the gpu as much as you can

[lavish kraken]

yes

ok

im currently at 140 fps

ultra and full aliasing

[crimson scroll]

now go to afterburner and raise your power limit to 110%

[lavish kraken]

then?

[crimson scroll]

or all the way up

[lavish kraken]

WAIT DO I QUIt the heaven

[crimson scroll]

I like doing lower just to be safer

[lavish kraken]

or nah

[crimson scroll]

no

don't quit heaven

[lavish kraken]

not quit like just finish the camera thing

[crimson scroll]

what are you talking about

[lavish kraken]

what does doing higher mean?

this screen

[crimson scroll]

yeah what about it

don't close it

[lavish kraken]

ok

its up to 110

now what

[crimson scroll]

now raise your core clock +100 and memory clock +100

and apply

[lavish kraken]

ok done

[crimson scroll]

now watch heaven and check for artifacts or black screening

also what's your temperature limit at

send another screenshot of your afterburner

[lavish kraken]

its at 64 rn

[crimson scroll]

not the current temperature

the temperature limit

[crimson scroll]

okay

let heaven run and if no issues arise then we keep going

so let it run for around 5 minutes

[lavish kraken]

i mean so far its doing good

ok it restarted

and its doing good

now wut

[crimson scroll]

it hasn't been five minutes dude

[lavish kraken]

oh

u never said 🤨

oh wait

im blind

[crimson scroll]

oh, didn't i

[lavish kraken]

L

what do u mean artifacts

[crimson scroll]

looks like stuff is glitching out

texture bugs

squares where there shouldn't be

etc

[lavish kraken]

oh nvm

and maybe flickering textures?

[crimson scroll]

yeah

that too

[lavish kraken]

happends to me in call of duty mw

textures FLICKER alot

but thats only in warzone

and less in mw

its been 5 mins

[crimson scroll]

and no issues?

[lavish kraken]

yeah

mostly no issues

[crimson scroll]

what do you mean mostly

[lavish kraken]

well i dont see any problems i mean

[crimson scroll]

be specific and mean what you say

mostly and none are different

[lavish kraken]

its looking fine to me

also i dont think its texture flickering

[crimson scroll]

okay

then bump up the core and memory clocks up another 100mhz

and apply

[lavish kraken]

ok

YUP

ok i turned it back down

but 200 was too much

[crimson scroll]

okay

go to 150 core and 200 clock then

[lavish kraken]

it started to freeze up

and i panicked

so i went to 200

what if something goes wrong is there a button to reset and go back

[crimson scroll]

there is a big undo button in the middle

[lavish kraken]

i see

i see

ok im trying 150

and its working well but lets wait and see i guess

[crimson scroll]

in general you should be able to push the memory clock higher than core

[lavish kraken]

so should i put it on 200

and core stay on 150

[crimson scroll]

yes, that's what i said

[lavish kraken]

ok no flickering

thats a good sign

[crimson scroll]

good

wait five minutes and keep watching it

[lavish kraken]

its already been 2 mins

:)

music is kinda nice

its fire

just like my GPU right now

1 more min

what does overclocking do

like more fps

[crimson scroll]

yes

[lavish kraken]

ok its been time

now 200 core clock 0_0

[crimson scroll]

no

[lavish kraken]

huh

[crimson scroll]

screenshot your afterburner

and post it here

[lavish kraken]

yeah yeah

[crimson scroll]

go to +175 core clock

[lavish kraken]

yeah its looking fine

another 5 mins?

[crimson scroll]

you get the process now?

[lavish kraken]

uhh yeah

kinda

[crimson scroll]

and once you hit a limit

that means you can't do much more at your current power limit

so you can either increase it

or just take what you have

increasing it will draw more power and correspondingly produce more heat

[lavish kraken]

i'll stay as it is

[crimson scroll]

okay

[lavish kraken]

yeah exactly

[crimson scroll]

you can mess around with the memory clock some more

like i said that's more likely to have some headroom

[lavish kraken]

i odnt want my gpu as hot as this guys gpu that is 8125 degrees C

elsius

ok so i quit it

[crimson scroll]

okay

now save what you just did to a profile

[lavish kraken]

time to test on a game

uhh what

how

[crimson scroll]

so you can just click the profile when you open afterburner next time

look at the bottom right

[lavish kraken]

nvm

[crimson scroll]

click a profile and click save

[lavish kraken]

what if i wanna change it back

[crimson scroll]

then click on an empty profile

[lavish kraken]

ok

now i close msi?

[crimson scroll]

no

you leave it open

[lavish kraken]

uhh wut

why

[crimson scroll]

because if you close it

you lose all your overclocks

[lavish kraken]

ohok

i got 16gb memory

so im god

[crimson scroll]

if you say so

[lavish kraken]

good

[echo zealot]

ddr?

[lavish kraken]

ddr4

[echo zealot]

hz?

[lavish kraken]

240hz?

[crimson scroll]

no

what frequency is your ram running at

[lavish kraken]

OH

3600

[crimson scroll]

cl...?

[lavish kraken]

MHZ

3600 mhz

[crimson scroll]

what timings

[lavish kraken]

timings?

[crimson scroll]

yeah

[lavish kraken]

wat

[crimson scroll]

when you buy ram it usually tells you 3200cl16-18-18-32

[lavish kraken]

oh

[crimson scroll]

not those exact numbers obviously

[lavish kraken]

lemme check

[crimson scroll]

but those are the timings

they denote how many cycles it takes to execute various instructions and actions

and the frequency is how many cycles your ram runs, per second

[lavish kraken]

16-18-18-38

[crimson scroll]

seems fine

what cpu do you have

[lavish kraken]

i need new ram cuz i just bought cheap ones

[crimson scroll]

and did you overclock it

[lavish kraken]

not overcloked my ryzen 7 3700x

8 cores 16 processors?

why

[crimson scroll]

because you had no clue how to overclock your gpu

so it was safe to assume you weren't overclocking your cpu

and if you had something like a 10600k you'd be losing out on performance

[lavish kraken]

lol i wanna get an 19

an i9

[crimson scroll]

waste of money for most people

[lavish kraken]

but i think that'll be in the future

hmm why?

[crimson scroll]

if you're just doing gaming, a 10600k can overclock to stock i9 10900k performance

[lavish kraken]

i10 10600k

[crimson scroll]

no

[lavish kraken]

ok 19 10600k

[crimson scroll]

no

[lavish kraken]

will u hate on me if i say i play fortnite

my fps iis good

[crimson scroll]

i don't care either way

and good, i'd hope your fps is good considering the parts you bought

or somebody bought for you

[lavish kraken]

yeah :(

i got help

[crimson scroll]

Considering I'm guessing you're around 14, I'm not surprised

[lavish kraken]

but thank u

13

i built pc when i 12

:)

0_0

ok

:)

thanky ouuuuu

bye

[crimson scroll]

you're welcome

[lavish kraken]

@crimson scroll

black things appear on my screen

This is weird

its BAD

[crimson scroll]

then lower your overclock

[lavish kraken]

whats overclock

isnt it core and memory

[crimson scroll]

yes

we overclocked the core CLOCK and memory CLOCK

[lavish kraken]

i put both 150

some things arent in place

i'll go lower

to 125

i think 125

is good

yeah

ima work my way up

125 is good so ima test 150 again

and then 150 good??? i try 175 and it good? i try 200

[echo zealot]

is OC'ing when you have such a basic understandng really a good idea?

[crimson scroll]

you just saw it was bad at 200 and you're trying to go back up?

[lavish kraken]

idk testing

yeah over 150 isnt good

(

:(

ima keep it at 125

or 150 cuz 150 is good

@crimson scroll

my game acting weird again

i redid msi and it wont go away

ima close it ok?

@crimson scroll

[crimson scroll]

sure

[lavish kraken]

stil wont go away

ima just restart game

[echo zealot]

maybe you shouldnt overclock

[lavish kraken]

i put it to 125 and it wont go away

it just doesnt work

wait is the 2070 super even overclockable

[echo zealot]

why do you need to OC a 2070s

you tryna run arma in 4k?

[lavish kraken]

idk they told me

i dont got 4k

[echo zealot]

dont listen to them
just cause you can doesnt mean you need/should

2070s perfectly capable without OC

[crimson scroll]

i didn't tell you to

[lavish kraken]

yes it is

[crimson scroll]

you asked me about it

[lavish kraken]

yes

i did

[crimson scroll]

so i told you how to do it

[lavish kraken]

but now i realise i dont need it

so thank you

[echo zealot]

probs saw some Toober talk about it

[lavish kraken]

anyways even before the overclocking

it still texture flickers

but its in cod warfare

[crimson scroll]

google "cod warfare texture flickering"

[lavish kraken]

i did

[lavish kraken]

@crimson scroll

after i did this all my games hvae been looking like dog poop

:(

how do i fix it

theres artifacts and stuff

pls help

[devout wolf]

@lavish kraken what clocks and voltages are you running

[lavish kraken]

idk

hwo to check

@devout wolf

[devout wolf]

what did you use to oc?

[lavish kraken]

msi afterburner

[devout wolf]

send a screenshot of your afterburner screen then

[lavish kraken]

oh wrong one

what do u mean

idk how

also

help

[devout wolf]

windows+shift+s

[lavish kraken]

what about it

[devout wolf]

that's how you screenshot

[lavish kraken]

yeah i know

[echo zealot]

anyone who wants to oc should figure it out themselves tbh
that requires more research

[lavish kraken]

ima delete msi afterburner

it messed up my gpu :(

[devout wolf]

right...

[echo zealot]

you did to be fair
it didnt change the settings itself

[lean quarry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pvdrxr/ is it a good case if i want a AIO in it? Or this one with an AIO https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wMpmP6/corsair-icue-220t-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011173-ww

What case is better for an AIO on the top

[devout wolf]

td500

for sure

220t has clearance issues with ram with AIO on top

[lean quarry]

ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING
is it good ?

[devout wolf]

eh

$70 motherboard with the strix tax

it's basically a Prime B450-Plus with aesthetic changes

[lean quarry]

in my country it is dubble the price

i am wanting to buy the rtx 3070 when it comes out so maybe its a good idea to get a motherboard with PCI 4 ?

[devout wolf]

not really

the cards were tested on a n i9; with pcie 3.0

and nvidia said in a q&a that the difference is only a few percent

[lean quarry]

then its not worth the extra money

you know a good motherboard that has a nice look and a nice price?

[devout wolf]

what price are you looking for

[noble oak]

Might be a weird question but does every mobo comes with Bluetooth?

Ping me pls

[lean quarry]

@devout wolf Max €100

[devout wolf]

Might be a weird question but does every mobo comes with Bluetooth?
@noble oak no

[lean quarry]

@noble oak no

[noble oak]

K

[devout wolf]

just get any motherboard and a wifi adapter that has bluetooth

[noble oak]

Sure

[devout wolf]

it's not worth most of the time getting a motherboard with wifi/bt built in

[lean quarry]

Yea

[noble oak]

Wait so the wifi card and the Bluetooth will be it 2 in 1?

[lean quarry]

No

[noble oak]

Ah so is will have to buy both

Gotcha

[devout wolf]

nonono

some wifi cards have bluetooth built in

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

this one is wifi 5 and bluetooth

most bluetooth wifi cards will have the little internal usb thing at the back

[lean quarry]

So a extra usb port?

[devout wolf]

don't think so

it needs the usb connection for bluetooth afaik

cause they include this

it connects directly back to the motherboard

[lean quarry]

Is there some kinda thing to only have bluethooth?

[devout wolf]

idk probably

oh yeah, usb adapters

[lean quarry]

Do you know a good mobo that has a nice look at is at max €100 ?@devout wolf ?

[devout wolf]

oh yeah one sec

which country again?

[lean quarry]

Netherlands

[devout wolf]

neat

and for which cpu

[lean quarry]

Amd ryzen 5 3600

[devout wolf]

okay

[noble oak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di
@devout wolf so what’s wifi 5

[devout wolf]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/XJbCmG/msi-b450-a-pro-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-a-pro-max
you could save a bit of money going with this:
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/PCKcCJ/asrock-b450-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-pro4

[lean quarry]

Thanks @devout wolf

[devout wolf]

@devout wolf so what’s wifi 5
@noble oak google :p

[lean quarry]

haha

[noble oak]

@devout wolf got any suggestions for a Bluetooth card?

[devout wolf]

bluetooth-only?

[noble oak]

I’m getting wired wifi

[devout wolf]

oh ethernet

[noble oak]

Yeah I like calling it wired wifi

For some reason

[lean quarry]

haha

[devout wolf]

seems like every pcie card with bluetooth is integrated with wifi

might have to go with a USB one

[noble oak]

Oh ok

[noble oak]

might have to go with a USB one
@devout wolf wait what is it called again?

[devout wolf]

usb bluetooth adapter?

[noble oak]

Why the question mark

I’m more used to the pcie Bluetooth and wifi card then a usb one

[devout wolf]

idk what it isn't called lol

[noble oak]

Bruh

[lean quarry]

Anybody has any knowledge over mic’s??? If so is the sandberg streamer kit good

[molten basalt]

watch sound test video to see if u like it

[forest heart]

can someone help me with a graphics card

[crimson scroll]

what help do you need

https://sol.gfxile.net/dontask.html

[forest heart]

idk

i jus wanna upgrade it

[crimson scroll]

okay

make a pcpp list of your current system and also post your budget for upgrades

[devout wolf]

https://sol.gfxile.net/dontask.html
@crimson scroll i need that, tysm

[lean quarry]

nice

they should make a pc tech guru rank

[crimson scroll]

nah

don't wanna get pinged a bunch

[lean quarry]

Haha

[devout wolf]

my blocked list has been growing faster than ever 🤦‍♂️

mans really pinged me 7 times to find him a good ssd

[crimson scroll]

in this chat?

[bold drum]

What’s the best ssd

[crimson scroll]

depends on your use case and budget

[noble oak]

Sabrient rocket in a pcie nvme storage card

[crimson scroll]

that's so generalized

what if i need way more storage

sabrent only does up to 8tb right now

what if i need 15.3tb

[noble oak]

#archive-user-support

[crimson scroll]

?

[noble oak]

i need help

[crimson scroll]

well i hope the people there can help you, sorry

i'm not a steelseries product expert

[devout wolf]

in this chat?
@crimson scroll nah different server

[crimson scroll]

pfft, you guys are in different servers?

[lean quarry]

Pffffft

[noble oak]

well i hope the people there can help you, sorry
LMAO

i'm not a steelseries product expert

[crimson scroll]

?

[lean quarry]

?

?

[crimson scroll]

was a non-factual statement said

[lean quarry]

Should i take the EK-AIO 240 D-RGB or the NZXT Kraken X53 ?

[fallow briar]

anyone got a good pc for 1200 and under? prebuilt not perfered

[tall cove]

intel or amd

@fallow briar

[fallow briar]

doesnt matter

@tall cove

[tall cove]

i built my rig for around that price including shipping

[fallow briar]

whats ur specs

cause i got mine for 1000$, there was sales. my friend is looking for a pc rn

[tall cove]

i5-9400f; 1660 super, 32 gb of ddr4 ram, 1tb + 250 GB of Storage

thats the important stuff

[fallow briar]

yeah. i got my pc for around 1000 and i have. ryzen 7 3700X, 2070 super, 1tb of ssd, 16 ddr4

@tall cove is that good

[tall cove]

Where did you find a 2070 super within the budget

[fallow briar]

that wasnt on sale

it was everything else

[tall cove]

hmmmm'

[crimson scroll]

@lean quarry EK AIO is probably better, what prices

@fallow briar you're not gonna build a substantially better system than what you have now

not with current prices

[fallow briar]

@fallow briar you're not gonna build a substantially better system than what you have now
@crimson scroll im not looking for a pc, im looking for my friend. he is doing all virtual school, and he wants a good pc to do all his stuff and game on. i dont want sum too expensive tho

[crimson scroll]

okay

so games, school stuff

any productivity stuff

[fallow briar]

yes, coding too

[crimson scroll]

compiling?

or just writing it

[fallow briar]

he wants a pc that will last. were only in coding 1 and 2 rn, but well be in ap java or better in a year or 2

[crimson scroll]

none of that is very intensive

so it's a gaming focused pc

[fallow briar]

yeah

i dont want it to be a crappy pc, but i dont want it to be overkill. a 2060 graphics card will be good right?

[crimson scroll]

meh

wouldn't get 2xxx cards now new

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VWzTdm add in a used 2070s or 5700xt for 300-450

on the lower end you can bump the ssd up to 1tb

this should be pushing 1440p 144hz

[fallow briar]

he has a 144 hz monitor

[crimson scroll]

is it 1080p

[fallow briar]

idk, he didnt tell me that

[crimson scroll]

well

that's important to figure out

[fallow briar]

he doesnt know

[crimson scroll]

tell him to go here and find out

[static pecan]

You can get a new 5700XT from XFX for $380

[fallow briar]

he doesnt have a pc tho. he has a ps4. he wants a pc so im trying to help him.

[crimson scroll]

tell him to look up the monitor model then

[fallow briar]

he cant find it.

its a predator acer monitor

[static pecan]

It's probably 1080p. That's what a majority of monitors are

[crimson scroll]

probably

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/ismvcz/usa_ohh_1080ti_with_accelero_extreme_3_cooler/ pretty dang good deal for a 1080ti

[fallow briar]

is the 1080 ti even worth it? cause i think that the 2070 super is better. and its half the cost

[crimson scroll]

where are you getting a 2070s for half of $325

nobody buys these things for msrp anymore

[fallow briar]

the 1080 ti was a grand i though

[crimson scroll]

nope

$700

$800 for FE on launch

[fallow briar]

so the 1080 ti is 700$

[crimson scroll]

good luck getting a better card than the 1080ti for 325. the 5700xts don't even go for that price anymore

no

msrp was 700

nobody is buying these cards new

[fallow briar]

oh, ok

[crimson scroll]

you need to look at actual sale price

commonly they go for around 400-450

[fallow briar]

ok. shouldnt you get the newer generations so you can have it for a couple generations before you have to replave it?

[crimson scroll]

why?

do you care more about the generation number

or more about how many frames it can actually push

if rtx, dlss, etc are important features

then yes, consider 2xxx or 3xxx

but the 1080ti is still a very capable card

it's almost on par with the 2070s still in non RTX games

so if you can get it cheaper, why not

[fallow briar]

yeah, but it still is worse than the 2070, and the 2070 dropping to 400 sum

[crimson scroll]

you moved the goalposts

we were comparing the 1080ti and the 2070s

and even if the 2070 drops to 400

that particular 1080ti i linked is 325

i'm not saying all 1080tis are good deals and worth it over a 2xxx series card

[fallow briar]

i get what your saying there, but i think that with the right parts, the 2070 super, or even the 2060 super can fit in his budget. ya know what im saying?

[crimson scroll]

sure

and i accounted for that earlier

but that particular 1080ti is a good deal and would save him money

i'm just presenting another option

[fallow briar]

i get it. but im also saying that the games that he plays, they are picking up raytracing

[crimson scroll]

okay

and i also accounted for that, lmao

you didn't mention that earlier

[fallow briar]

my b

how do i make my own pc part list

[crimson scroll]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

easiest website to use for that imo

[fallow briar]

ok

@crimson scroll https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

hows that

[crimson scroll]

that's the default editor

you need to copy the other link

the link above the green bar

[fallow briar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pDHMJb

[crimson scroll]

you don't need such a beefy cooler for a 3600

get the b550m pro4 over the b450 tomahawk max

[fallow briar]

ight

[brazen palm]

^

[crimson scroll]

rgb memory is fine if you like it i guess

but i'd rather go with gskill rgb or something

[brazen palm]

i got rgb ram chaper than normal lol

[crimson scroll]

that ssd is overkill for what he wants to do

get a sn550 or a2000 or something along those lines closer to 100-120 per tb

h510 has bad airflow

[fallow briar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YmTc3t

[crimson scroll]

NR600, lian li lancool II mesh, p500a/p400a, td500, pure base 500dx, metallic gear neo air, etc are better choices

and i wouldn't buy windows

the only thing different in that list was the psu

[fallow briar]

he doesnt have anything to get windows though

[crimson scroll]

you can get windows for free

without pirating, that's not what i'm advocating for

[brazen palm]

#KMS

[crimson scroll]

no

that's pirating

[fallow briar]

how tho? cause my dad said its never free. theres always a cost

[brazen palm]

Not exactly.

[crimson scroll]

technicalities aside, it's not right

besides you can just download it directly from microsoft

[brazen palm]

Just use linux

trure

[crimson scroll]

all that happens is a watermark

yeah, gaming on linux

nice joke

[brazen palm]

i use a vfio passthrough 🙂

so i can still game on windows within a vm at native pefornacebn

[crimson scroll]

that's work

[static pecan]

If you already have a PC with Windows 10 you can download the Windows 10 updater tool from Microsoft and create a bootable ISO file on a flash drive to install Windows on another PC

[crimson scroll]

@fallow briar basically your partslist has the right idea but is not optimized

[fallow briar]

ok, i just found sum real good hold up

@crimson scroll https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqjVrV

what about that

[crimson scroll]

don't get the 3600x

negligible performance increase

although...it is only 7 bucks more now

3600 prices have been jacked up

you don't have to get a 3rd party cooler but the one you picked is okay, i'd look at the 34 duo

[toxic raft]

Saucy Raichu#4498 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[crimson scroll]

the fact that donkey is a bad word is ridiculous

but anyways

that ram is overpriced

and a bunch of stuff is showing up as no prices available for me

[fallow briar]

well i live in na east

that might be why

[crimson scroll]

that shouldn't matter

[fallow briar]

idk then

[crimson scroll]

it's so weird to me that the 3600x is actually cheaper than the 3600

so dumb

keep making lists though

[fallow briar]

i would, but i have assignments to do. poop

[lean quarry]

will the EK-AIO 360 D-RGB fit on top in the Lian Li lancool II mesh

[crimson scroll]

https://www.lian-li.com/lancool-ii-mesh-performance/

no

check manufacturer websites for specifications

you can see the top will fit 240mm rads at most

[devout wolf]

oh wow never knew about the fan mounts under the gpu

[crimson scroll]

psu will block them though

maybe not the right side one

but you're not really gonna be drawing that much air i feel

i am so tempted to buy that 325 1080ti

if i can flip my 1080 for around 275

[lean quarry]

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-360-d-rgb it says fan compatiblity is 120mm

[crimson scroll]

yeah that means the fan size

you can't put a 140mm fan on it

[lean quarry]

yeah

[crimson scroll]

at least, not without modding it

[lean quarry]

just rol it bigger

[crimson scroll]

@devout wolf before i go on a purchasing spree, confirm my thoughts

buy 1080ti with accelero 3 cooler for $325. Hopefully sell my 1080 for $275, maybe $260 after fees and such

worth it?

[lean quarry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rtLZtp pcpart picker says no issues

[crimson scroll]

it doesn't say anything about top mount

because in fact, as you can see in the picture i posted

the lancool II mesh does have room in the front for a 360 rad

[crimson scroll]

yes

read what i wrote

[lean quarry]

yea

[devout wolf]

hmm, a 1080 to 1080ti upgrade for ~$65

[lean quarry]

so i have to do a push pull config on the front????

[crimson scroll]

also it's a hp bad cooler to an accelero 3

you can just do push or just do pull

you don't need to do both

[devout wolf]

not bad

[crimson scroll]

yeah

i think i'll message him to split shipping, get it down to 315

[devout wolf]

yeah that'd be sweet

[lean quarry]

but do i have to make it to pull in the air?

[crimson scroll]

I also originally bought the 1080 for $260...so really i'm making bank here

yes, either way you want cold air to enter the rad

i don't know the math on which is better if you do only pull or only push

[lean quarry]

so all the cold air that wants to come in the case gets sucked up by the AIO and there will be no fresh air in it?

[crimson scroll]

air will still pass through the rad

it'll just be slightly hotter

[lean quarry]

a rtx 3070?

[crimson scroll]

what about it

[lean quarry]

hot?

[crimson scroll]

i dunno

depends on the cooler design

we have no benchmarks

[lean quarry]

yeah i hate to wait

[crimson scroll]

so yeah it looks like maybe there's some air from the right fan? hard drive cages kinda block it

so you'll get some fresh air

[lean quarry]

wooohsss

[crimson scroll]

remember that if you top mounted your AIO

[lean quarry]

then?

[crimson scroll]

you'd be exhausting hot air through it, you probably wouldn't have it as intake

and so it's always a tradeoff between gpu thermals and cpu thermals

[lean quarry]

yeah but do the EK AIO 360 fit on the top mount?

[crimson scroll]

no

i'm talking about a generic setup

not this particular one

my point is the tradeoffs

[lean quarry]

you know a case that it does fit?

[crimson scroll]

p500a

also good airflow, currently around the same price (the lian li one is jacked up right now)

[lean quarry]

in the netherlands it is much expensiver

[crimson scroll]

is this still the NAS system you're making

[lean quarry]

how do u mean

[crimson scroll]

you asked a while ago about a nas system right

[lean quarry]

maybe?

[crimson scroll]

jk it was another teal name in north europe

[lean quarry]

ooh

ok

so in the PHANTEKS Eclipse P500A Digital RGB does the EK AIO 360 fit on the top mount?

[crimson scroll]

look at the picture i posted just now

that's the p500a

[lean quarry]

aah i see

[crimson scroll]

well, i bought the 1080ti for 315

[devout wolf]

pog

[crimson scroll]

any of you guys wanna buy a 1080

wtf is that emote

i just wanted to kappa

oh I also don't have another six pin connector...uh oh

[devout wolf]

sata to 6-pin time

[crimson scroll]

I have one in my bag at home...two and a half hours away

i'll figure it out lol

heyo

[devout wolf]

ayyyy

[crimson scroll]

mother raichu coming in clutch

[noble oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/273558354620579851/754786530723102840/videoplayback_1.mp4

funny

[crimson scroll]

Not really related to pc building

[lean quarry]

imagine building a pc while in that car

[noble oak]

can one of y'all make me a parts list with a rtx 3080 that is under $1500? idk about processor, ryzen 7 or intel i7 preferred, but i5 and ryzen 5 is also acceptable

pls @ ping when you do

[crimson scroll]

for pure gaming?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2mBVrV @noble oak

[noble oak]

mostly gaming, school work, and maybe some streaming/video editing (prolly not tho)

[crimson scroll]

then the list i posted is fine

wait for benchmarks obviously

[noble oak]

yeah

thx

[crimson scroll]

so far with the 2080ti the 10600k has been able to match stock 10900k performance when OC'd, but that might change

we also don't know how important pcie 4.0 will be

[noble oak]

kk

how does ur list compare with the one I have in mind? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rdhanekula/saved/9c978d

[crimson scroll]

you have a 3070 in your list so

also a 3700x

[noble oak]

yeah

[crimson scroll]

both are inferior in gaming to the ones in my list

[noble oak]

kk

[crimson scroll]

for video editing, yours should be better

for streaming it's a wash pretty much

just use nvenc on the gpu

[noble oak]

k

[crimson scroll]

your list also has more storage i guess?

[noble oak]

yeah

and better RAM

[crimson scroll]

not really

you're at 3600cl18

that's still 10ns ram

for overclocking maybe

[noble oak]

k

wait are the fans in my build compatible with my mobo? I'm pretty new to this so idk how to check

[crimson scroll]

yes they are

mobos have standard 4 pin fan headers

sometimes also argb headers

for cases they might come with proprietary 6 pin fan headers connected to a fan controller that will be a standard 4 pin or argb

and standalone fans are normally all 3 or 4 pin pwm

also read the reviews on the page

a lot of people say the cables are too short

and check the number of fan headers on the motherboard

make sure you don't have to buy fan splitters

[hollow glacier]

whats a good PSU at around $80 or lower and at least 500W

[lean quarry]

i am searching for good rgb fans that are silence and in a 5 pack that can work with a asus rog strix

@hollow glacier look for cooler master they have some pretty good prices

[crimson scroll]

that is a bad idea

specific models > brands for psus

every brand makes good and bad psus

the be quiet! pure power 11 cm 600w is around 89 right now

[hollow glacier]

but which is good speicifically

like a specific link would be helpful

[crimson scroll]

i put an exact name...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K3Jtt6/be-quiet-pure-power-11-cm-600-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-bn298

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

not a perfect list but a good enough reference

[lean quarry]

he @hollow glacier for what gpu u go if you go for the new 30 series from geforce then you need more watt

[hollow glacier]

3070

[crimson scroll]

"more watt" more than what

[hollow glacier]

rtx 3070

[lean quarry]

power

oof misclicks

[crimson scroll]

yes

more power than what

your statement doesn't really say anything

[lean quarry]

600 watt i thougt it wass 750

[crimson scroll]

and considering 600w will run a 2080ti, the 3070 should be fine

this draws more power than in games

yes, they are using a 1600w titanium rated psu so their efficiency curve is better

no, that won't change if your 600w psu can run a 2080ti

also, the 1080ti draws 250w under torture

the 2070 draws 230 watts at peak

so assuming a similar jump in efficiency for 2xxx to 3xxx,. you have nothing to worry about at 600w

[lean quarry]

I first wanted to go with the rtx 2070 super but then they announced the rtx 3070

[crimson scroll]

both numbers from tomshardware

[noble oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHrNAwSsOno

benchmarks for 3080

[lean quarry]

Anybody knows a fan 5 pack that has rgb is silend and is cheap

[devout wolf]

i know of a 3-pack

cooler master sickleflows

wrong product image on pcpp https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCvqqs/cooler-master-sickleflow-120-argb-62-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-mfx-b2dn-183pa-r1

they actually look like this

for a 5-pack, i'd recommend these https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zFVD4D/deepcool-rf120m-565-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-rf120m

they're 12v rgb so that's a upside or a downside depending on how you look at it

[crimson scroll]

rgb, silent, and cheap is hard to do

you generally skimp on color quality or air flow

[lean quarry]

Do they work with a asus mobo

@crimson scroll you know any good ones for a higher price 140m?

[crimson scroll]

i don't really do rgb sorry

[lean quarry]

Oof

@devout wolf you know any ones that work with asus mobo’s and are 140m

[crimson scroll]

good luck finding 140m fans

[devout wolf]

i mean

^^

especially for cheap

[lean quarry]

Nail the cheap

[devout wolf]

and fans aren't compatible with a specific brand

[crimson scroll]

you should list your exact mobo

[devout wolf]

they are either 5v or 12v or USB

newer motherboards have all three (can't say about low end)

slightly older ones only have 12v and USB

[lean quarry]

Asus rog strix b450-f gaming

For the light

[devout wolf]

12v and USB then

no 5v

so

the cheapest rgb 140mm 5-pack, the only one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wqx9TW/thermaltake-riing-plus-14-rgb-tt-6319-cfm-140-mm-fans-5-pack-cl-f057-pl14sw-a

$220

[crimson scroll]

?

[lean quarry]

Holy shit that is expensive

[devout wolf]

it's not compatible either lol

[crimson scroll]

140mm rgb is a niche market

[devout wolf]

unless it has the usb controller

[lean quarry]

Oof

[crimson scroll]

it does include the fan hub

[devout wolf]

thermaltake is weird

only a few of their hubs are usb

[crimson scroll]

yeah there's several cases that do the same thing where their fans are six pin or something proprietary

very annoying

[devout wolf]

i'd say go with the Deepcools

they're 12v

i was really surprised when i realized that the b450-f doesn't have 5v headers

even the b450m-pro4 has them, and it's $83

[crimson scroll]

asus strix and being flashy without features?

color me shocked

[devout wolf]

lmao

5v is the flashy tho

but too expensive for them to implement

[lean quarry]

Maybr these things https://www.amazon.nl/upHere-Addressable-Luchtstroom-Ventilator-Radiatoren/dp/B087FV3Z2Y/ref=asc_df_B087FV3Z2Y/?tag=nlshogostdsp-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=438843440521&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10979425913298531771&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9050863&hvtargid=pla-925209220476&psc=1

[crimson scroll]

their rog strix gpus have some unique features too, sad

dual bios and one other thing

uphere is not bad for budget

[lean quarry]

Kinda sketchy

[crimson scroll]

eh

it's fine imo

avoid asiahorse

[devout wolf]

it's 5v though

not gonna work with your mobo

[lean quarry]

Dammit

[crimson scroll]

this is why i don't do rgb

[devout wolf]

only 5v fans that will work with your motherboard are some coolermaster fans

because their hubs can connect through usb

and then you have to use their garbage software

can't be worse than aura tho

[lean quarry]

Corsair ICue SP120 ?

[crimson scroll]

expensive

[devout wolf]

and corsair

[lean quarry]

€50 for a three pack

[devout wolf]

eh

doesn't seem like the sickleflows have a usb hub

so https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/Gb66Mp/cooler-master-mf120r-argb-59-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-r4-120r-203c-r1

inferior fans

but the hub is usb

[crimson scroll]

for the price of 3 LL120 rgb fans with the lighting node pro

you can instead buy the p500a

[devout wolf]

literally

[crimson scroll]

and get 3 140mm rgb fans

oh and a case

[devout wolf]

and the LLs perform like P12s

it'd be cheaper to get p12s and phanteks halos than to get corsair lls

[crimson scroll]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/CORSAIR-iCUE/Gaming-Headsets/ST100-RGB-Premium-Headset-Stand-with-7-1-Surround-Sound/p/CA-9011167-NA

[devout wolf]

that's not even their most ridiculous product

[crimson scroll]

i couldnt'

[devout wolf]

https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/CORSAIR-iCUE-NEXUS/p/CH-9910010-NA

[crimson scroll]

find the light stick

[devout wolf]

the lt100 is

bruh

my emote

[crimson scroll]

the bot warned me for as s

[devout wolf]

lmao

[crimson scroll]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Ambient-Lighting/iCUE-LT100-Smart-Lighting-Towers-Starter-Kit/p/CD-9010002-NA i found it

[lean quarry]

Why the hell is there sound built in that thing if you use it for your headphones it meand that you have a headpfone so why you dont use it!

[crimson scroll]

corsair is a billion dollar company

their marketing is effective on people who don't know better

I can recommend some of their cases, not everything is bad

but a lot of it is pretty bloated and inflated

[lean quarry]

Yup

[devout wolf]

only good things corsair makes are some cases and psus

[lean quarry]

Imagine buying all their products

[crimson scroll]

the m55 mouse could have been good but needed to be cheaper

mediocre sensor

slap in a 3360 and it would have been decent for the price

[lean quarry]

Yeah

[devout wolf]

Imagine buying all their products
@lean quarry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c-VjF-8D8w

[crimson scroll]

pretty impressive

[devout wolf]

he also has every razer rgb device

[lean quarry]

No way!!!!!

[devout wolf]

but he has them for making profiles for them; so it's justified

[lean quarry]

Btw are there any fans that uses the steelseries software

[crimson scroll]

no

[devout wolf]

nope

[crimson scroll]

he doesn't have enough views to make money off of those purchases

hope he's sponsored or something

[devout wolf]

yeah i think corsair sponsors him

he gets money from patreon

crucial also sponsored him recently

[crimson scroll]

nice

[lean quarry]

🤞🏼

[crimson scroll]

steelseries is a smaller peripheral maker

they make just peripherals pretty much

some various collaborations with msi

but corsair had its roots competing with crucial etc in the ddr market

logitech has a huge non-gaming consumer base

[devout wolf]

yeah

corsair is collaborating with asus

only msi stuff that works in steelseries engine are
-z270 gaming pro carbon
-msi laptops with steelseries keyboards

[lean quarry]

Mobo’s with the steelseries software?

[crimson scroll]

just the one

[devout wolf]

only that z270

[crimson scroll]

and it's not even good now

[devout wolf]

kaby lake kek

[crimson scroll]

dead upgrade path, end of life

[devout wolf]

i'm not expecting Steelseries to have any MSI integration with their motherboards and gpus because MSI's SDK is a dumpster fire

even peripherals tbh

[lean quarry]

Wich rtx 3070 should i choose?

[crimson scroll]

wait for reviews

[devout wolf]

wait for reviews

[crimson scroll]

we don't frickin know

msi made great 1xxx cards and then disgustingly bad 2xxx cards

[lean quarry]

Yea thats true

[crimson scroll]

so there's no way to predict really

a safe guess would be the sapphire rx6000 cards will be pretty good, most likely

they've got a decent track record on the amd side

but they don't do nvidia gpus

outside of that it's kinda hard to say what product lines will be good

the reference design will be great if you plan on buying a waterblock

[devout wolf]

reference =/= FE

[crimson scroll]

usually the waterblocks are standardized around the reference pcb

[devout wolf]

it confuses me now

[crimson scroll]

yeah

[lean quarry]

Me to

[crimson scroll]

3080 reviews come out on the 16th

watch those

you will be able to infer more from that then from previous generations of cards

[lean quarry]

Ok

I am gonna sleep because its in the night right here so bye

[devout wolf]

night

[lean quarry]

In my country

[lavish kraken]

what is this

please help

white stuff shows when i shoot

@crimson scroll

[crimson scroll]

looks like effects in game

[lavish kraken]

exactly

but they are crappy

ughh

gmaes so bad >:(

[crimson scroll]

so...sounds like you should change the game settings

doesn't sound like a hardware issue to me

[echo zealot]

ruined 2070s is not cause

[lavish kraken]

yeah

if i get a new graphics card will everything stay the same on my monitor

[crimson scroll]

Maybe

Depends on the card

[warm jolt]

and the monitor

[crimson scroll]

Interesting

Better than previous reference coolers

Well, assuming they actually get good contact

[naive dagger]

lol

saucy is bae

[static pecan]

At least the AMD ref design doesn't look like crap lol

I absolutely hate the look of 30 series

[magic hamlet]

the 30 series to me looks awesome

super elegant and minimal

I personally would much rather have elegant and minimalistic cards rather than sharp angular glowing ones

[coral cosmos]

I like that the connectors are on the end... not sure what happened witht he 30xx series there

[devout wolf]

I like that the connectors are on the end... not sure what happened witht he 30xx series there
@coral cosmos the FE PCB literally ends at the center, it's super short

which is why the connectors are there

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717739217572331571/750409502637031568/01_nvidia_geforce_rtx_3090_znamy_wyglad_plytki_pcb_karty_graficznej_1_b.png

[dusky crag]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xd9VrV can someone review it

[devout wolf]

change cpu, motherboard, ram, maybe ssd and psu too.
Maybe AIO to EVGA CLC/EK AIO/Arctic Freezer II

9th gen is an obsolete platform, 9900k is easily outperformed by an overclocked 10600k

[rigid swift]

you just told him to change everything lol

[devout wolf]

right forgot about aio

[dusky crag]

can i have nvme and sata or doesnt work

[rigid swift]

sure you can

[dusky crag]

do people use sata hdd and nvme together or no

[rigid swift]

sure

ssds are too expensive to use it as mass storage

so usually you put 500gb or 1tb nvme on your mainboard and then 4tb hdd as storage for big games and shit

[dusky crag]

nvmes are faster than sata right

[rigid swift]

way faster, yes

[dusky crag]

so i put stuff on nvme if i use it often

[rigid swift]

yes
for ssds, you want to put stuff on it that you need to read often, because ssds cant handle as much write actions than they can handle read actions
additionally, you nvme will usually be your OS drive, because you want it to start up fast
I have my OS, most important programs and small games or games with high loading times on my nvme, everything else goes into 4tb hdd for when im enventually gonna need it

ssds are important but if you dont have the money for a full ssd build, dont estimate the power of big hdds

[dusky crag]

so i should put a game like fortnite or csgo on my nvme

[rigid swift]

you should uninstall fortnite, and games like csgo are definetely a thing to put on an ssd

things that dont pay off being on an ssd are things like gta 5, its just way too big to waste space for it and the loading times mostly depend on the online servers

[dusky crag]

so it’s fine if i have a system with an hdd, ssd and nvme all together

[rigid swift]

sure, you can mix up the types as much as you want. you just wanna make sure you have all the connectors on your mainboard and cables you need

[dusky crag]

and do nvmes use the same slot as satas

[rigid swift]

No, they don't
You have an nvme slot right here on your mainboard, you don't need any cables to plug it in