#๐ป-building-a-pc
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out with the M.2 and in with whatever case you fancy
nah AM4 not even remotely worth vs the above build
ik @lusty hinge is a case/psu euthenist so she'll have better suggestions than I, but overall thats about the best your gonna get in Ireland atm
Also why is the motherboard so expensive
cheapest good board that supports ddr5
only other options are uber cheap corners cut monstrosities
https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/product/M8pQzy/cooler-master-mwe-bronze-650-v3-230v-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mpe-6501-acabw-3buk
realistically the difference between these 2 is minimal, but this ones technically better. its 5 euros cheaper anyway so money saved
https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/product/wKdG3C/kolink-observatory-hf-mesh-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-observatory-hf-mb is fine considering its one of the cheapest cases available
the moment you go for anything remotely better like the XT PRO you end up spending like 80-90+ euros
Download Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) - Remove AMD/NVIDIA/INTEL Graphics Drivers Cleanly - DDU is a driver removal utility that helps you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, leaving no leftovers behind, including registry keys, folders, files, and driver store.
relatively straight forward
go to the AMD site and download your desired drivers for your GPU but dont actually run the installation yet
launch into windows safe mode and open DDU
then select amd then just click on the big remove drivers button
i believe theres a button that makes your pc auto restart once youve done it, but restart your computer after and go back into normal windows
then run your amd drivers
i DONT NEED DDR5
caps
nvm
its good ig
ddr5 = more cpu performance
olalala
yeah
Part List - Intel Core i5-14400F, GeForce RTX 3060 12GB, Antec AX20 ATX Mid Tower
ddr5 = not fuutr prof cuz ddr7
https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/Db8Z9C minor change to that, I swapped memory for something better binned
Part List - Intel Core i5-14400F, GeForce RTX 3060 12GB, Antec AX20 ATX Mid Tower
WHAT Did u do?
but what if ddr7 sucks
for what
wait it out for ddr8
what if my 11900k gives out before ddr8 (its already fvcked as we speak)
sell it on ebay under "BRAND NEW - UNOPENED"
"unopened" I dont have the box
you think if I put in a plastic bag that counts ๐ญ
me blocked?
I should be blocking you and reporting you to discord for severe game taste issues
nuh uh
i hate fortnite
its just loaded me into a game, greyed out the leave button and doesnt let me turn
2025 and still playing foretnite is crazy
Not really
Judging others for playing Fortnite on the other hand
Well, I used to think it was a fun game. I think this game is dead, you would just still play fortnite and think you are going to be new Bugha, that's just my view. I don't think it's a fun game anyway
yawn
It's gone up 3 times since the other day
@lusty hinge go play some Marvel rivals
Or like I'll even do valorant
judging people choice of game in the big 25 ๐๐
Big 25 and still getting hurt over a joke ๐๐
my man is defending Fortnite like it pays his rent.
You should work on your jokes, they're supposed to be funny ๐
imagine acting like being the comedy special director of Netflix
WTFFF
Would have been more fun if you used that one on me since, it's kinda indirectly true ๐
No, I'm the comedy police.
Didn't you know?
waitโฆ youโre telling me Fortnite actually pays your rent? Lemme hold a V-Buck loan bro? My bro is living in a Fortnite sponsored apartment
must be a tough job with all these unfunny people out here right ?
Not directly but I work for BLAST who does the production on the FNCS
lennart i thought you said youd stop telling that lie
You know it
๐
now I see why you were defending Fortnite like that secure the bag
I might need that VBucks loan for real.
I ain't got no vbucks ๐
Good thing Iโm not one of them right?
Auchh, youโre telling me youโre on the FNCS payroll but cant even flex with vbucks? they got you grinding for XP instead of a paycheck 
Yes?
do I at least qualify for an entry level comedy job? I need that verification
@pulsar fossil ^
(tag so we both can sleep quicker, which is a valid reason)
I'm sure I'm just the wrong non-Zoomer audience for some of it so yeah
Thanks, sleep well, Iโll be grinding hard at my unpaid internship in your department (hoping for that promotion someday)
Thanks, you too.
we are just defending the sigma lisquie
Literally went full circle
It did start a whole discussion on him wearing one which is funny
If you'd like support from other community members, please make a post in #1047622297382567936. For official support, please contact SteelSeries
Everyone please report this player on Fortnite
ID norezss
Please help me
"full boxed" should constitute a full week internet ban
I am checking my CPU temp right now, and it is at 100 degrees (not good). The weird thing is that these past few weeks the computer has been able to sit at a stable 65 degrees, no matter how hard I strain the CPU, and sometimes it just jumps to 100 degrees without warning. Right now I am just browsing the internet and it's at 100.
I should probably also add the question:
Anyone know a reason for it to be fluctiating so much? I have been checking my fan RPM constantly today and they are inbetween 1500-2500 (depending on what fan). I am using water-cooling though, and that one is like 4-5 years old... time to switch?
What cpu is it
Is the Antec Symphony 360 ARGB any good?
Intel i5-8600k
oh yea that most common issue its probs paste or contact on the cpu
if its OC'd then that'll definitely change the heat output as well
could also just be that the AIO (I think you have one?) has just become rather inefficient overtime
uea
so remember the gpu thing yesterday
could that happen if it wasn't fully pushed in
Your the tech
guy
Man
yeah imma need help
I am one of many
Thankyou
whats the issue
Okay so when i boot up my pc
originally it was starting bios and i got everything
But from time to time my like screen display kinda just cuts off for a bit
like black then comes back
Like nothing happened
And i could be sitting there watching something too
that to me sounds like screen saver (a thing windows does if you dont interact with your pc for a bit)
if you only ever encounter it when you are not doing something on it i.e. moving the mouse/typing etc, then yea definitely that
if you type into the windows search bar at the bottom left of the screen "choose a power plan" and then hit enter
you'll get a windows 7 style menu and you want to click this
and then just set it to "never" in both of the options and hit save
Thats my only problem so far
I will actually check that when i get home from work buddy
motherboard was like kinda dog legged so i pushed it in and then reseated the gpu
ill lyk if it happens again but so far it hasnt
I have come to the conclusion I need to buy a new PC. What is the best site to buy from, in Europe?
europe is big
europe is a country
yea I know now dummy
yeah yeah
i thought China was a planet icl
???? that's significantly worse
I was like 6 though
in a galaxy far far away
we should protest for our tax money to be used to make a manmade planet
should we
we need more micro centers
micro center planet
how does your pfp keep changing
its like you got an alter ego or smth
what do you mean
ctrl r
oh
oh no I know what I'm posting lisq
gg
I +1 this gg
$300 for an aio is out of this world
I think the only way it could be worth $300 is if it projects a real woman into your room
hey
$300 for an aio that performs like a 240mm
plus 177 on a case that doesnt even include fans
it's completely fixed now
finally I can macro roblox all night ๐๐
I've never really had any huge driver issues with radeon cards
if anything it's mostly physical issues inside the build
so skill issues
Can someone help me with this.
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If you want to translate it
It appears each time I turn off my computer
does anyone know how to fix clipping (when I clip it should clip a minute or 2 minutes,etc; but it clips 9 seconds or a random amount of time it shouldnโt clip). DM IF YOU DO plsss
hii
It doesn't want to finish loading. Does anyone know why?
Is the 9800x3d a good am5 CPU?
lol
im truely asking i need to know๐ญ
Should I be formatting my HDD/SSD drive(s) before transferring them over to a new build?
dont need to
best gaming chip on AM5 if you need 500 Fps in everything
alr im planing on playing minecraft on it
im just kidding
99% dont
ok
like X3D has normie consumers in a choke hold
everyone even your grandmother wants one
damn
wat
i saw it so you have to aswell
Im am so confufed
miku dayo
i understand but context requirement
no
how when why and why in paint of all things
japanise as well icing on the cake
of course
welsh but true langauage is japan
๐
Yes
is this good
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
Thermalright Aqua Elite V3 66.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card
MSI MAG FORGE 321R AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case
Try to get 7600x3d and 4060ti with 16gb
Don't need an x3d
Definitely overpriced for what it is
6 core am5 cpu is pretty bad
4060 isn't good
Super overspecced cooler
Mediocre board
Mediocre psu
Corsair memory is quite bad on ddr5
I think the ssd is Decent? Though that's definitely not intentional
What that looks like to me is just a company trying to get rid of stock that isn't selling
Hence the pick and mix build
Elaborate
Just an overvalued product that's going to suffer from too many background apps and not enough cores to shed that load
No but it will determine if you stutter into non existence after a longer period of time
What
I wonder what happens if I throw the word intel in here
Yea what I thought
Not right now got better things to do than debate what is basically the average reddit opinion
"The ryzen dogs it" isn't opinionated?
Considering it doesn't
Well that's factual because it's based in facts "the ryzen dogs it" is not
How is it
I'll tell you what since you're looking for an argument
How is "ryzen dogs it" based in facts
Tell me that and I'll respond properly at some point
Just as I said I have better things to be doing on a Monday
Yea I mean actual receipts for this specifically
why would I? you're making that claim
Im just asking for something that actually backs it up
go get some then
7600X3D costs a lot more than the 13600K and often doesnt perform any better
youll only benefit with it in games such as Rust or EFT
did you suddenly switch comparisons? the original point was about gaming, in which absolutely no CPU gets too hot to cool on any decent air cooler
the 7700X can currently be purchased for $280, and the 14600KF for $219. techpowerup shows that the 2 CPUs perform near identical on average at 1080p, and if youre planning on doing any multi core work then the 14600KF is going to gap your 7700x
nothing you replied to has any sources attached to them. when you say "their benchmarks?" you arent actually providing any sources. it typically isnt the job of the person requesting sources to provide the source, but rather the people making said claims
if you cant or wont provide sources to back up your claims, then youre not acting with the best intent and it makes you seem pretty untrustworthy
upgrade what CPU to what CPU though? a lot of people bring up the point of socket changes but its pretty easy to ignore that when youre not clarifying anything. if youre trying to upgrade from a 12600KF to a 14900KF, you can do that on the same socket on the motherboard you already own. a 7500F to a 9800X3D can also be done on the same socket/board. if youre trying to argue that you cannot upgrade your CPU on the same socket in 5 years, then thats a very silly point to make because BOTH sides will be on new sockets in 5 years.
its also just foolish to plan 5 years ahead
SSD is notoriously bad (and is a complete gamble as to what configuration you actually receive) and is known to fail very quickly, within a few months. 
the PSU is likely overpriced for what it is.
what country are you in? what is your budget?
@grave cipher 




most consumers dont have the correct equipment or enough funding to create proper benchmarks that can be properly repeated with no issues
oh no you actually entertained them ๐ญ
yeah cuz im awesome
nv2
๐
one thing I will say is AM4 is evidence that they really only say it for marketing, all of the am4 boards pre 500 series suck massively to the point you'd just upgrade the board anyway with a new cpu
400 series you could probably get away with on a mid tier board
but unless you bough XOC 300 series then those boards are ewaste and wouldnt power a 5600X reliably
youd be too busy running a 2600 because you spent everything on this https://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/geforce-rtx-4090-hof.html
NVIDIA Ada Lovelace Streaming Multi
if I run the bare driver and MCT it should be fine right?
itll be fiiiiine
yay
theyre all the same anyway
cuz AMD sucks and all 7900 cards use same PCB
yea probs because core doesnt draw a lot of power and ref pcb was pretty good off the get go
nonono dont fall for marketing its cuz amd bad
if youre gonna waterblock it i expect to hear you say youre pushing 700w through it
well I want to run like 3.5 core clock on benching at least
probs 3.2 daily
my GPU luck seems rather good so I expect a decent bin
unlike my cpus
decent bin 7900xtx would be nice
actually seems like 4070tis go for like ยฃ600 rn second hand
and XTX is only 850
hmmmmmm
sooner than I thought potentially
maybe next month
hell yeah
when i stop being lazy
lmfao yeah probably
Let me start over here, I'm looking to upgrade my CPU/RAM/Mobo to pair it better with my 4080
I currently have an i9-9900k and 32GB of RAM
My first thought was still to go the Ryzen 7 9800X3D route for something that will last
Focus is mainly on gaming
But productivity is a plus
1440p
hmm
I would like to recommend intel but I dont like recommending high end intel without like mega tuning
like a 14700k would slap but stock it kinda blows a little
i9-14900K is about the same price and includes AC Shadows and 6 months of ubi+ ๐
a 14700k/f is still going to make a lot more sense at 1440p gaming over something like a 9800x3d considering lennart wants to do more than just game
yea thats where Im at
theres no reason to be spending like 600 euros or whatever it is for a 9800x3d at 1440p
unless you exclusively play rust, eft or the finals
So the i7-14700K?
where ive ended up personally
all the multi core for production
and all the single core for gaming
I will say that if you spent time playing with it it would slap a 7800X3D
ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING is my current mobo according to hwinfo
It's a little old now ๐
nah Z390 boards are based imo
Wouldn't work with the new CPU anyway
if only
im throwing something together in the background anyway
Part List - Intel Core i7-14700KF
thats basically the cpu side done
rest of it is more up to you to decide
you can go 32 but 48 is actually easier to run
and 8 MB VRAM
Fair
Extra RAM is always nice for Adobe software
And Chrome
But thanks! I'll add it to my options
Also gotta get approval from my boss
My boss:
She's easily bribed with food thankfully
need 64GB of GDDR8X for fortnite 16K
so with my pc when it arrived all the case fans are flowing in should i go ahead and get two more and have it vent out the top to keep air circulating? The air flow is already decent flowing out the top without fans just curious
if you want sure lol
yeah
it usually would or you could just get a sag bracket for like $5 to $10
well i wanna get a vertical mount with a pcie riser
because im gonna rebuild it in a 3500x
totally fair
yeah that works lol i was just recommending the bracket for aesthetic but thats a great temp fix and or if you dont mind the look
yea im def gonna buy a long term solution
I would recommend a bracket
Verticaal mount is fucked up for temps only good for looks
Pc is for sale btw dm if intrested
if i was u i would try to buy white fans
Hey Lennart, so I actually have the build proposed by @grave cipher aside from the RAM. I can tell you though that you're going to run into a lot of issues right off the bat. The first being the cooling.
- The 420mm AIO it incredibly big. The only case I fit mine into was the Corsair 7000D which is truly a massive case.
- Even though TJMAX is 100ยฐC, you'll notice with other coolers that you'll get spiking that will enable TT
- I'd recommend a deepcool AIO if you're wanting something smaller.
- I also recommend getting yourself some PTM 7950 from modiy or Grizzley KryoSheet for thermal compound.
- The MSI board sucks and the cpu mount itself sucks. Replace it with the Thermalright CPU Contact Frame for LGA 1700
On the topic of the MSI board, be very careful with the bios updates which you MUST do unless you want to risk your CPU. I upgraded and skipped 3 versions. This bricked my CPU and I had to RMA it. Previously it was working perfectly fine.
Also, don't bother with 24GB RAM. Usually 24,48 are more expensive than 16,32. Go with a 6400 DDR5 DC RAM with Intel XMP ready. No need to get fancy.
I would also recommend the 14700K not the KF. The performance difference is not noticeable (Pic attached).
I've also attached my PC info just to prove that I am using that build.
I use the 14700k for my workstation with a quadro RTX 4000 but I also have a gaming PC I just built in my living room. It's running an AMD 9950X , 64GB DDR5 6400, MSI Nvidia RTX 4070ti Super. I also added a Asus ROG STRIX X870E-E so that I could use a GEN 5 nvme. This was not a cheap build but it runs games and whatever I put to it like a beast. Way better than intel.
Anyways, I hope this helps guide you on what you need. Feel free to DM me if you have more questions or need some additional help.
what deepcool aio
what deepcool aio
oops sorry
The DeepCool LS520 SE is an all-in-one liquid CPU cooler that provides reliable high-performance cooling built on a new water pump design for optimal results. Color coordinate to the rest of your system with a big and bright ARGB infinity mirror cover on the CPU water block and included ARGB fans. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of provi...
I use this one and it's great. I upgraded the fans though to noctua high static pressure
9950X 6400MT/s
is this manual tune
6400MT/S is RAM and no it's using AMD EXPO
ew
aio wasnt a final choice just the best one, LF3 360 is also fine. LF3 also comes with contact plate as standard, the board is fine? it has no issues, temps are fine as well. a bios update will not brick your cpu lol thats not how that works at all, 24Gb sticks are easier to run than 16, which is important for stability reasons , KF was cheaper.
this is a build I have done myself and its completely fine, your experience sounds more a kin to user error than manufacture one if im honest,
thats 2:1
LF3 contact on LGA1700 is kinda mediocre
KF is awesomer than K unless you specifically need iGP for quicksync or something
yah indeed
could always just cope and go for a frozen notte anyway considering lennart said its gaming
That's quite the write up, appreciate it!
wont be pushing 200w through a 14700kf if youre playing games
I'm still conflicted on Intel vs AMD and I'll be honest that I'm kinda leaning towards AMD currently
none of it made sense ๐ข
except the compatibility with case
it runs VT3 and doesnt overheat so I consider that a flying pass anyway VT3 is hella hot still though at 256w PL2
you should buy a 9800x3d and wait several months like glorg
like 94 = 96c
Wait for what?
yeah like last year november or something
only recently showed up
I would go with AMD. Only issue with AMD at the moment though is the demand. Because of Intel's fail release of the 2nd gen ultra series, everyone is going AMD which AMD isn't able to keep up. So there is a very high demand at the moment.
how did intel fail with the core ultra
Performance value
best performing multi still
it was never intended to be a high performing gaming lineup though
it cut power draw and is still a top performer for multi core shenanigans
tbh you can just oc it and get all of that back
hell freaking yeah
if you just max out D2D clocks you'll get like 30% back
which is basically most of the loss from going chiplet to begin with
youre in the netherlands right
Denmark
close enough
I7 Ultra released Q4'24 which shows on the market the direction it took Intel. AMD Dropped too but this is mainly supply issues because they were relying on Intel's release of the new ultra series to stabilize the demand a bit.
Is a Noctua NH-L9x65 chromax.black enough to cool the 9800X3D?
yeah but so is a cold winter breeze
youre drawing the equivalent of nothing if youre using a 9800x3d so yknow
It's still a 120W tdp
just cope and win https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y4y88Q
Part List - Intel Core i7-14700KF
TDP is irrelevant if youre trying to figure out what cooler to use
7800X3D TDP is also 120w and we all know how easy that thing is to cool
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#amd #ryzen #7800x3d
Aight
do you already own the l9x65
Despite the record of AMD having heating issues or extremely high temps, they've fixed a lot of these in their new lineups.
oops sorry Speedu I didn't realise I had your reply on
Maybe google it? I'm not going to give you the story of AMD and how the company was created to when it is now. If you want to look into it further I suggest to do your research on it.
im not going to google something that doesnt make sense
No, it's more based on wanting Noctua in that color and it's in stock
But you'll trust my answer over google?
Otherwise why ask the question right?
there is no trust to be had here im just trying to get a clarification on what you actually mean
heating issues are non existent
manufacturers put procedures in place that aim to prevent damage to your cpu through heat. on the manufacturers product page for your specific cpu you can see the point in which youll begin to thermal throttle (TJMax)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/237504/intel-core-i9-processor-14900ks-36m-cache-up-to-6-20-ghz/specifications.html 14900KS has a tjmax of 100, which means at this point or beyond your cpu will do the equivalent of become a dial up machine to try to come back down to safe temperatures
same goes for amd, https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/9000-series/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d.html they show the 9800x3d tjmax is 95
literally any temperature up until the tjmax is perfectly fine
if youre throttling, you likely need a better cooler, a repaste or just need to remount your cooler
Ah thanks for literally just proving exactly what I just said lol
"overheating issues" are vague because a lot of people get scared over "high temperatures" but then theyre only at like 80 degrees
you didnt say anything though
extremely high temps doesnt actually tell me anything
Read the rest of the message
how high? were they accidently putting 300w through a 3700X and getting up to 500C?
noctua coolers are no better than any other cheaper decent alternatives
i wouldnt pay for that one
i mean one of noctuas best fans for example is just a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone
:D
It does have a nice aesthetic
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AMD Athlon XP (2000s)
Problem: These early CPUs lacked integrated heat spreaders (IHS), making them more susceptible to overheating if cooling was inadequate.
Notorious Models: Athlon XP 2000+, 2200+, 2400+, 2800+ -
AMD Phenom Series (2007-2011)
Problem: The first-gen Phenom X4 series, particularly the Phenom 9850 BE, was known for high power consumption and heat generation.
Notorious Models:
Phenom X4 9850 BE (TDP: 125W)
Phenom II X4 965 BE (125W version)
Phenom II X6 1100T (140W version) -
AMD FX-Series (Bulldozer & Piledriver, 2011-2014)
Problem: High TDP and poor power efficiency led to excessive heat.
Notorious Models:
FX-9590 (220W TDP) โ Required liquid cooling in most cases.
FX-9370 (220W TDP)
FX-8350 (125W TDP) -
AMD Ryzen 3000 Series (Zen 2, 2019)
Problem: High idle temperatures were reported due to aggressive boost behavior and small die size.
Notorious Models:
Ryzen 9 3900X
Ryzen 9 3950X -
AMD Ryzen 5000 Series (Zen 3, 2020)
Problem: While efficient, Ryzen 5000 CPUs tended to run hot due to high boost frequencies and tighter thermal limits.
Notorious Models:
Ryzen 9 5900X
Ryzen 9 5950X
ooooooooo aaaaaaaa
But it's not in stock :(
duh
They have these in stock
Here's all AM5 coolers in stock: https://www.proshop.dk/CPU-Koeler?f~cpu-koeler_cpu-socket=socket-am5&pre=0&inv=1
ID-Cooling?
Last edited 2024.07.14 Cooler performance varies depending on the system. This list ranks coolers using generalized cooling performance from available benchmark results. Quality, aesthetics, acoustics, and ease of installation aren't accounted for. This is not a list of recommendations. A low tie...
if youre gonna go for the 9800x3d id probably just grab any cheap dual tower like the PA https://www.proshop.dk/CPU-Koeler/Thermalright-Peerless-Assassin-120-SE-Black-CPU-Luftkoeler-Max-26-dBA/3179162
omg K12!!!
phantom spirit evo? its thermalrights best air cooler
Sounds like a good option then
yeah
Nice
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Not in stock and I don't like the color
I'll be real, looks does matter a little ๐
severe mental deficiency
Stupid question but lower CL number in RAM = better, right?
Worthless for ddr5
youre looking at margins of error
Just watch for trcd
9800x3d silly moment
yes
if you want the cheapest then this is here
That's 2x8GB tho
Pfft silly you
Aight, here's where I'm at currently: https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JCJNYd
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
The RAM pricing isn't correct
4200 is the cheapest it's ever been here
not much to it really if youre on am5 you just pick the nicest looking 2x16 ram, nicest looking motherboard and call it a day
And it's not in stock at that price
sad
i wish i could get given malware for free
Only thing I'll say is don't ever use 4 dimms or you are in for a really bad day
Hah, I did that with my current mobo
And yep
So let's just say I am at 16GB RAM currently
Not entirely sure where the 2 other sticks are after my move
nah ddr4 was fine
but ddr5 has really bad signal integrity issues
so 2 into 4 becomes 6000 to 4800 speed wise
Tips on cleaning Apex Pro โfrom insideโ if i spilled coke? Is it possible to do without damaging?
take it apart
Oh yea cool thanks, should i also follow up with โassemble it backโ -part?
lol yeah
theres screws underneath the keycaps
take all of the keycaps off and just chuck them in a bowl of soapy warm water
then just let it dry
Keycaps are not issue here, the magnetic actuators are the risky area for me. How to clean without damaging
you still need to take the keycaps off
if its a big spill id just grab a micro fibr cloth and dab it up a bit
Thank you for tips @lusty hinge ! Anyone else had same issue or can add something to this topic?
keyboard pcb is chill so dont worry too much @clear turtle
just open it up and clean what you can
and then leave it air dry for at least a day
first picture is a mechanical pcb, not a magnetic
I just realized @lusty hinge that this might actually be the first time since my very first PC that I will be using AMD
Back then I had a 15" Nokia CRT with built-in speakers
And a horizontal PC case
With a CD and DVD drive
And a 2.5" floppy drive
Good times 
nuh uh
uhh
under ยฃ1000
(based in uk)
Put in the order @lusty hinge - here comes the waiting game
Ordered it at 21:30 and it's supposed to arrive tomorrow, let's see if it actually happens :)
Usually pretty reliable
It's been shipped 
They even send out a guide on CPU installation
So touch the pins right?
touch them
omg
comment reminded me but in case you didnt know, dont rest components on esd bags
the outside of the esd bag has the opposite effect
yah thats all good
will this work?
if I vertical mount my gpu on the 3500x will I still be able to put fans on the red line
bro that gpu isnโt getting any air
can some genius pc company make a side glass with a vent for vertical mounting ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
it's not even mounted I'm just testing
like it's screwed down but it isn't in a pcie port
oh
is this a good first build
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (ยฃ194.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler-separate
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (ยฃ154.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL36 Memory (ยฃ97.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston NV3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (ยฃ43.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (ยฃ278.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case (ยฃ82.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (ยฃ79.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: ยฃ986.90
-50 performance caused by heating
4060 is wack and the rest if hardware isn't easily upgraded you from UK ?
cl36 memory is bad bro
i would recommend a DDR4 AM4 high end pc for same price then these mid items
porcessor isn't that good either
not worth the money
yh
i got pcs better then that for a good price for sale
and shipping from be isn't that expensive
Just keep in mind that selling PCs would be considered self promo
Anyway, the struggle is real when you realize your new motherboard requires 4+8 pins and your modular psu isn't wired up for that
And you have no idea where the cables are

molex
7600X is better than every single AM4 cpu
psu and ssd is garbage, ram should be changed because it wont run in sync
for ยฃ1000 you absolutely shouldnt be going for AM4
I have a 5700X3D running on 5.2 ghz chilling on 71c and 3080 vision 10gb OC running at 2300 mhz i smoke a lot of am5 s
how is that relevant
i dont care what youre running
suggesting AM4 at ยฃ1000 is ridiculous considering better options are very similar in price
so either its not at 5.2 or your running a chiller
actually wait even on phase change it only does 4.5 LOL
and here i am chillin at 5.2
run R23 real quick actually
post the score
just an ease benching tool
I don't know which Nvidia executive thought the new power connector would be a great idea but I don't like whoever that was
May his rear be itchy and his arms too short to reach
i switch from my vanguard 5080 to my 3080 again
the power connector isnt a terrible idea just very poor execution
if they had proper current monitoring for the 12V rails on the connector then you wouldnt get any burning cards
they did actually on the 3090s
but 4090s had 1 which is useless
same with the 5090s
why you've never seen a burnt 3090 connector though, they had proper monitoring in place
The splitter into three plugs is absolutely trash ๐
well thats just for compatibility with PSUs that dont have native 12Vhpwr support
ideally you just run the 1 cable all the way around
you done it?
they didnt
its not nvidia
its PCI SIGs issue
if you want to keep rgb ram - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/NkxxFT/lexar-ares-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ld5bu016g-r6000gdla
significantly better psu at the same price - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/KGDQzy/montech-century-g5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-g5-750w
slightly cheaper motherboard that offers more features and is actually decent and not a reskin of one of the worst b650 boards - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax
ssd you should actually use if you care about your data at all - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XC9wrH/fanxiang-s880-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-1tb-ssd-m2-s880
call these guys and tell them theyre stupid https://pcisig.com/
pretty sure theres a form somewhere which you can sign or send or something. id have to look for it, saw it posted in bapo a few times
are fanxiang drives reliable?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3BQcCJ/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-11323-02-20g anyone got a better deal than this 7900 XT?
Was gonna buy it but it shot up like $300
when i put my cpu in i broke the pins
oh
you can also just remove all the crap
alr
whats up with the 12700K bundle and a 7900x3d
the motherboard i had
and why are you sending a 7900x3d
are you trying to use your motherboard with the 7900x3d
thats the cpu i heard intel wasnt good
too late should have told me before
gg

tbf if you set raid 10 then a HDD as the redundant drive would be fine
in fact thats probably the best usage for them nowadays
you can use them for games and they'll work well but no one knows how to actually maintain a HDD properly
i was playing rust and the frames were DOG for like 2 hours
I need to buy a 990 evo
beating raids on 40 fps
why a 990 evo lol
yeah thats rust for you
buy a 9800x3d
good price and performance
remember a few weeks ago i was looking for an ssd
that is horrible price/performance
i dont need over 1tb
you can get an mp44l for $54 rn
thank god youre just blind buying bad ssds because they cost 80 dollars then
i dont think i found teamgroup at best buy but i will look
if youre limited to best buy thats probably one of the only decent options
but its bad if you can buy on amazon
i saw some crucial drives too
whats the speed
Nothing special, but consistent and plenty fast
doubt any of that info actually matters to you though
all youre doing is gaming, right>
yea rust uses the paging file and windows always sets the paging file to the biggest drive not the fastest
so it'll be a slide show
yes
is there a way to set audio to 48000hz
on sonar
terraria crashed cuz its higher than 48k
only says 96k
Sonar only supports 96k
But you can suggest it in #1070392859125104660
can someone help me
why does argb hardly ever work with apps
got the riser cable
sick
I am switch accaunt
lisquie I spent $100 on a 990 pro 1tb
and then i think $110 for the nova 5's
seer MNR = this accaunt but on phone
6 years on an hdd
ill buy another one later down the line
maybe one for windows and one for games cuz im using a 6 year old sata
that wouldn't slow it down at all?
like lets just say i use 500gb out of the 1tb on there
games and windows
no
it wont slow down?
itbwouldnt
classic
what happened?
lian li
as i was gonna ask about buying an edge 850
do all lian li PSU's typically have issues
i do like the hub feature on lian li though
one of the best psus you could ever purchase is $20 cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bjhv6h/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii850g-bkcus
whenever i upgrade to am5 ill probably buy a new psu
or if you wanted white just get the crii still
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qrgrxr/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii850g-whcus
lol
afaik 850w edge unit isnt covered in depth but i can ask around
only a cybenetics report
what is the exclusivity in buying a different PSU brand
like efficiency or just knowing it has the lowest chances of catching on fire
you still shouldnt be looking at psus by brand
you're right
im not tryna be rude im just asking if i buy a corsair rm850x or that will there be any difference
what year rmx
2024
rmx is better
but is it worth the price increase
like is there any exclusivity in paying 30$ more for a different brand
$134 for the rmx over $100 for the crii?
lolno
its better but both are good and its pretty hard to justify $34 over minimal differences
stop saying brand i beg
๐ข๐ข๐ข
what should i say instead
alright
no
well that's corsair for you i guess
except apple actually makes good products
only good thing nzxt and corsair has done is make good psus, but they dont even design or produce them
their flagships are pretty good
i wouldnt in a million years buy a base model iphone though
even if i were to switch from samsung
what's your opinion on their AIO's
well corsair to be exact
all suck
thats my make a wish if i get cancer
i need them gone
if i have rust on the ssd will it be doing this
You need to go to advanced system settings and change the paging file to only be on the fastest drive
fuck
does anybody know why razer synapse just refuses to open
even after i end the task
i swear their software hold their products back
Because it's razer and it literally is in line with steelseries for worst software in the collection of branded software
ASUS would like to have a word
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Razer's software has thankfully ( knocks on wood ) been fine so far for me, the 5 times I've launched it.
razer software bad
what product are you trhing to use it with
i assume mouse
I use it for a mouse :D
nice
@pulsar fossil you work with cameras and nonsense i think
do you know anygood action cameras that arent go pro
or should i just pay the price
i just need 1080p60 and doesnt die in 5 minutes
razer v2 pro
viper
gosh
it happened on my basilisk v3 aswell
I mean, sure. :D
Haven't used many action cams for a while now
But Garmin used to make some good ones
There's also DJI
And Insta360
DJI Action 2 maybe?
It can do 4k60
Actually, 4k120 at 16:9
you could just get an s25 ultra
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there's probably people out there who buy secondary phones just for video and photography
A Samsung? Noooo thank you
Samsung might have the worst Android software I have ever tried ๐
i think the worst is probably pixel OS or xiaomi
One ui 7 is pretty good
tried it on a dummy phone at best buy yesterday
I think I'll stick to iOS :D
one ui 6 is a failure icl
I left Android a couple of years ago so I haven't tried 6
S10 might actually have been the most recent Samsung I've tried
Used mostly OnePlus after that
i got one rotting in my cloest ๐ญ
Yea that thing is ungodly
So is msi center
Msi makes easiest to navigate bios of all time
Makes something in OS that is everything but functional
im not sticking a massive phone to the side of my rifle
omg awesome
you play airsoft?
mayhaps
imagine losing and airsoft fight to a guy with a giant android phone attached to the gun ๐ญ๐ญ
the fan curve never works for me
ill open the cooling wizard and it just closes the app
yeah i dont wanna be the one with a phone
i have an action cam now but im convinced its just failing
battery life has slowly gone down to like 10 minutes
i tried swapping the battery and nothing changed
so now im wanting to replace it but idk what with
nova 5 has noise cancelation right
every mic has noise cancelation
its a software feature
yea instead of using the msi centre from the MSI downloads section/mobo, use one from the surprimx lineup
I had to use the one from the 4070TI to actually get it proper working
not the mic
this is a screenshot from buds 2 pro
the stuff that cancels background audio
is 50 series the worst gpu launch yetโ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธ
Nova 5 does not have ANC
Nova Pro wireless and GameBuds are the only SteelSeries products with ANC iirc
It's not great
NVIDIA confirms, RTX 5080 also on the affected list No one is safe. Over this weekend, one of the Redditors revealed a GPU-Z screenshot claiming that his RTX 5080 graphics card is showing symptoms of missing ROPs (Raster Operations Pipelines). This problem has already affected two of NVIDIAโs just-released cards: the RTX 5090 and 5070 [โฆ]
one of the worst yeah
from capacitors exploding, to cables melting, to everything been above 3 times the price and out of stock, it aint looking great
performance uplift also was not that great
at least the cards got smaller
https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wzh7MC
Limit 2000 euro, any recommendations? I play a lot of fps games but I also play chill games like minecraft and i want this pc 2 last atleast 8 years mimmium, I play at 1080p 144hz
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Radeon RX 7800 XT, Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower
I also do a bit of content creation for fun, such as editing and recording.
Wrong link oops
Water cooling is required for my cpu
if youre playing at 1080p 144hz you should spend significantly less
on a 9800x3d? no it isnt
a single tower air cooler is sufficient
Ah what
Just configure it please
I neeca shower
Get a better monitor bro ๐ญ
My monitor is fine?!
Im going to buy a betyer one after
First the pc budget is 2000
I already have my mouse and keyboard, and headset just need a mic, a monitor and pc
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Radeon RX 7800 XT, Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower
Ty
replace cooler with ak620 zero dark / digital if you want
why are there like no coolers in ireland
Don't go budget, I have up 2 2k euro
idk what you expect to buy
https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/product/mQjBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-tuf-rx7900xtx-o24g-gaming
https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/product/gXPv6h/gigabyte-windforce-oc-sff-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16-gb-video-card-gv-n507twf3oc-16gd
theyre both way over 1k
get a better monitor
paradigit making โฌ65 just on shipping is crazy
yea but you're building top spec to run probably something ez
like 1080P 240 or 1440P 144 most mid tier systems are gonna run
Im spending 2k on the pc, then im getting a new monitor
I will simplify, get a new monitor first and then a system
or at least lock in a solid choice
and then build it around that
a system meant to push 4k 120 is going to look very diffrenent from a system that does 1080 360
anybody got some good keyboard suggestions
my budget is like around 120 to 140 USD
no clicky annoying ones please ๐ญ๐ญ
Razer ornata v3 it comes in 100% and tenkeyless and it does have a clicky noise but its not that loud and if you have headphones on you cant hear it
it can be like a Lil clicky
just not some disgusting blue switch noises
I got my Door shut most of the time anyways
ewww
ewwwwwwww
ewwwwww
ewwww
he specifically asked for good keyboard suggestions
what size
there's nothing worth spending more money on unlessyou can find better gpus
For a 4070 would a ryzen 9 or a 7 3dx be better to pair with
60%
Made68 Pro or Lucky65 V2
it's done
but my refresh rate is capped at 60hz with the riser cable
for some reason
rested ram = fixe
re seated
@grave cipher its this one right
whats wrong with it
it's razer
whenever I think of buying another razer product I remember how bad their software is
Yea
personally i suggest the steelseries apex 3 , I bought it just the day before yesterday its quiet has rgb and the software is kinda hard but after a month of use it will be ez
I have a question, how do you decrease your shared gpu memory? i have 13.9 gigybyte of ram bc of it (i have a ryzen 6750xt)

