#๐Ÿ’ป-building-a-pc

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tropic heron
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Kylo ren would be proud ๐Ÿ˜„

lusty hinge
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ram is in wrong slots

opaque moon
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I was switching them around because it wasn't booting but it was display issue

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they're in 2 - 4 now

vast totem
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Is it good???

polar junco
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looks great ๐Ÿ‘

alpine pulsar
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Nice

opaque moon
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mostly roblox and fortnite

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ryzen 5 3600, 32gb ddr4 and an XFX RX580 8gb

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he only has 60hz monitors as well ๐Ÿ˜ญ

strange niche
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what does anyone think of this please - CAS: Corsair 6500X Mid-Tower Dual Chamber Gaming Case - White
CPU: Intelยฎ Coreโ„ข i9-14900KS - 24-Core [8P up to 5.70GHz / 16E up to 4.50GHz] - 36MB Cache + UHD Graphics, Ultimate OC Compatible
CS_FAN: 6x Corsair iCUE LINK QX120 RGB Black Fan Kit
FAN: Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT Display 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler, Ultimate OC Compatible
M2SSD1: 2TB Corsair MP700 Pro M.2 PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD - 12400MB/s Read & 11800MB/s Write (1 Drive)
M2SSD2: 4TB Corsair MP700 Pro M.2 PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD - 12400MB/s Read & 11800MB/s Write (1 Drive)
MEMORY: 96GB (2x48GB) DDR5/6400mhz Corsair Dominator Titanium RGB Memory
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero: ATX w/ PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E, USB 3.2, 5 x M.2
PCABLE: Corsair Premium Sleeved PSU Cables Kit - Black
POWERSUPPLY: Corsair HX1500i 1500W 80+ Platinum Ultra-Low Noise ATX 3.0 Fully Modular Gaming Power Supply
VIDEO: GeForce RTXโ„ข 4090 - 24GB GDDR6X - HDMI, DP - Real-Time Ray Tracing, NVIDIA DLSS 3 (Single Card)

quiet jacinth
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just wait for 50 series gpu

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and get yourself a 5090 or 5080 for the same price u buying that 4090

jagged garden
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im looking to get a new graphics card currently running a 1660 Ti with an i7 was looking to buy the 4060 Ti Aero 16gb but now wondering if i should buy the base 5070 instead? However i dont want to spend too much though but would still be in budget however i do likr the aesthetics of the 4060 as its white

quiet jacinth
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5070 seems like a solid pick if what nvidia claimed is true, '' 5070 has the same performace of a 4090 for 550us dollars ''

jagged garden
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I am also concerned though with the ease and accessibility of being able to buy one

quiet jacinth
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yeah really depends on where u from

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most likely i won't be able to get one x.x

jagged garden
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im
From the uk

quiet jacinth
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should be fine then

jagged garden
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okay best bet is overclockers?

lusty hinge
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no

quiet jacinth
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overclockers or scan store

lusty hinge
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the best bet is waiting for third party reviews to become available

quiet jacinth
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apparently scan store has it up already to notify

lusty hinge
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the only performance information we have right now is what nvidia has provided us and thats only a select few games with DLSS4 enabled

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we dont know the capabilities of DLSS4 nor do we know any information about the 5070 such as power draw or raster performance

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if youre planning on purchasing a 50 series gpu you should wait till the third party reviews become available to us from reputable sources such as TechPowerUp, GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed

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reviews are typically available within a few days of launch

lusty hinge
jagged garden
lusty hinge
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still be able to buy a gpu? sure. i have no idea of your financial situation.

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im not here to tell you what to or what not to buy but i can provide my advice and that would be waiting for the reviews to become available and making purchase decisions based on the pricing of different GPUs and taking what you expect from one into consideration

jagged garden
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No as in would it be out of stock already

lusty hinge
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its not even available for purchase

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and no, i cant read into the future.

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you should likely be able to buy one though.

strange niche
lusty hinge
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what exactly is it for because its quite questionable if this isnt a pc used for your job or something

strange niche
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Gaming, steaming, my work

lusty hinge
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whats your work exactly

strange niche
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Marketing and video editing

lusty hinge
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hmm

lusty hinge
# strange niche Marketing and video editing

i dont see anything wrong with it. id change a lot but im assuming this is a prebuilt or a work provided system or something. the only thing that stands out is the 96GB of ram at 6400 MT/s - i doubt youll be able to run that with XMP, although who knows.

id suggest waiting for the 50 series to release and for reviews to be available to see if its worthwhile waiting for a 5090/5080

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the cable extensions are a bit gross especially on such high power components but its okay i guess

strange niche
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I would wait but need it now and it what me and friend choose so I can do everything I needed to do

lusty hinge
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its probably incredibly overpriced

lusty hinge
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in your currency

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judging from "pintsizegeezer" i assume ยฃ GBP

strange niche
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Yeah gbp I just got to buy all the bits and my friend putting it together as he works in a pc shop

lusty hinge
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are you able to make any changes to it? if so, any specific retailers?

strange niche
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Not bought it yet going to get the parts at the weekend

grave cipher
# strange niche Marketing and video editing

check how cpus compare in the software you use and how much that matters. Ultra 200s are bad for gaming but have a marginal increase in multi workloads. 9950X is also a competitor in that space.

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you do not need a ยฃ400 board, so dont let them sell you one.

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same with the RGB bloat that packaged into it, just raising the cost exponentially, though its a personal preference thing ultimately

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don't need a 1500W PSU either for that spec on stock. it should fall within 770w'ish so a downgrade to 1000W would save some money

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though OC'd it would probably hit/exceed 1000W slightly depending on how aggressive you are with it

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you would probably want 2x 2TB drives so you can put them in RAID for higher bandwidth

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you could also buy a 4TB HDD for redundancy so if 1 SSD dies, you still have all of your data backed up

strange niche
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Thanks I look in to that but money not a problem ๐Ÿ™‚

lusty hinge
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,pcpp

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err

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oh yeah

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if youre using PCPP it could be easier to help

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no idea if youre buying from a specific retailer

grave cipher
lusty hinge
near fossil
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anybody have any advice on getting a rig together in north korea?

grave cipher
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you can't I don't think? all systems are packaged with NK's own custom OS that is obviously packaged with spyware and very limited customisability so they can censor everything

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the idea of a DIY space anywhere in NK would probably go directly against the control they seek

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you might be able to salvage together a couple of prebuilt systems, but they're all going to be running on ancient hardware and probably the same for the OS itself

zinc pier
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Arl name a gpu

pulsar fossil
zinc pier
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get aut

pulsar fossil
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๐Ÿ˜…

zinc pier
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yea ik

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name a cpu

pulsar fossil
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Brian Jr.

zinc pier
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like an actual cpu and gpu

lusty hinge
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why

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why cant you just google one

grave cipher
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fx 8350 and 290x

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see how bulldozer handles in 2024

lime valley
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itโ€™s 2025 bro

vast totem
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Is my setup good or should I upgrade I have an etc 4060 32 by ram 1,5gb storage msi mag 360 gigabyte b550 and lian li fans

grave cipher
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well peripheral wise its good but its more personal preference. hardware wise the 4060 is fine for fortnite at low settings. storage is literally dependant on whether its an SSD or not and if you run out of space. Can't comment on Ram without XMP profile and can't comment on CPU if its not listed. the Board is basically irrelevant same with cooling if its not overheating

lusty hinge
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would be interested to know what PSU it is

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as long as it isnt something god awful like a gamemax 500 or something yknow its kinda near enough whatever cuz its already owned

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insane keyboard angle though

strange niche
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good evening does anyone know the best display port cable to get please?

pulsar fossil
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If not then you'll be fine with most cables

strange niche
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ok thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

pulsar fossil
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You're welcome โ˜บ๏ธ

lusty hinge
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just make sure its capable of reaching your monitors specs

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if youre trying to run 1440p 240hz youll need a cable capable of so

opaque moon
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can anybody recommend some good white wireless headphones

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USB-A not usb-c

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preferably one that charges on a dock instead of just a wire

lusty hinge
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usb a

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?

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like, into the headset?

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none

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if you mean into your motherboard why not just get a usb c to usb a adapter

balmy vessel
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Hello, for a Ryzen 5 5600X, i take a RX 6650 XT or RTX 4060 or another ?

grave cipher
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B580 ideally

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3060 or 4070 for Nvidia

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6700/50XT or 7700XT for Amd

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basically anything with 12Gb of Vram, 10 Would also be good but avoid 8 entirely

opaque moon
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the dongle part

narrow pivot
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Does any body know what CPU to pair with the new RTX 5070? I live by a micro center and I'm looking to buy a cpu, mb, and ram bundle. So my options are the:
Ryzen 7 7700X
Ryzen 7 9700X
Ryzen 5 9600X
Also, I'm using a 1440p monitor (I don't know if that will change anything though)

lusty hinge
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9600x uses whatever bad board they have too much stock of + a single stick of 16gb

narrow pivot
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Ok, I believe the 7700X micro center bundle is cheaper, it includes the mb and ram as the 9700X bundle. Thanks for your help๐Ÿ‘

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Yea, it is a 30 dollar difference.

lusty hinge
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nice

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$30 saved

narrow pivot
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๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ‘

wicked ermine
# vast totem

i say always, if you are fine with your Performance from your System, do not upgrade.

wicked ermine
strange niche
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Itโ€™s ok I got them sorted thank you

opaque moon
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is this compatible with 3500X

opaque moon
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i dont need a bracket for this right

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i just watched a yt video it says to only buy the bracket that supports the case but i see none for the 3500x which i want to buy

lusty hinge
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have you considered similar alternatives such as the king 95 / pro, king 65, xr, or the antec c5/c7?

opaque moon
opaque moon
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c5 is dual chamber?? i actually like that one a lot

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does it come with a vertical mouint

lusty hinge
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dont believe so no

faint sand
# vast totem

can someone give me a case name that looks like that and its cheap?

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ik there should be a cheap one

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i love that kind of cases that has 2 glass panels

surreal pond
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how cheap is cheap

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montech 65 pro king try that

hearty abyss
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hey

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is anyone else's rival 3 wireless draining pretty fast?

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its weird that didn't add an usbc port to charge it

idle flax
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I need help

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Can someone make a good 5070 pc so Ik what to get when it comes out

grave cipher
idle flax
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I js need a good build for it

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Anything with a5070

grave cipher
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Games you play, what graphic settings, what res what refresh rate

idle flax
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Fortnite cod siege preformance 240 hz and 1440p 1440x1080 Iโ€™m at rn

grave cipher
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Do mean 1440p as in 2560x1440 or 1440x1080

grave cipher
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That's very excessive

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5070 is like a 1440P path tracing card

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For all low 1440x1080 a 4070 would be more than enough

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Though cod runs very mediocre on nvidia

idle flax
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Ohhh

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Can you help me

grave cipher
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Yea just give me a price range and I'll cook something up

opaque moon
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my razer basilisk just randomly stopped working

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it died and wouldnt turn back on and it's not charging

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i tried charging it w/ wire and dock still doesnt work

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better than nothing i guess..

opaque moon
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I want to buy a razer viper, but before i do does anybody else got some good suggestions ?

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only preference i have is wireless

grave cipher
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Finalmouse

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I'm personally a G303 enthusiast

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Any variation of the G pro as well

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You also have glorious

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Pulsar

opaque moon
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g303 looks too wide

opaque moon
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but is it really worth 150

grave cipher
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Btw the 502 is wider than the 303

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Is it worth 150? Probably not? Logitechs newest additions aren't all that good

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They're still gaming mice but don't really offer anything for 150 other than generic marketing stuff

lusty hinge
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no idea how true it is but i see it thrown around a lot

opaque moon
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are you only talking about the LMB and RMB parts or the entire mouse from left to right

lusty hinge
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looks like an rgb version of the m7

grave cipher
opaque moon
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a lot of fortnite players like glorious

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i dont really like honeycomb mice anymore

grave cipher
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Imo honeycomb mice were rather stupid to begin with

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the whole point of the casing is to provide surface area to grip and protect the components inside

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adding holes in the shell probably also increased manufacture costs since they're machined

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Ill give logitech and razer both credit in that they tried different and better approaches to lowering mouse weight that isnt from pure brute force

wicked ermine
grave cipher
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I 1440P PT fine on a 4070ti

wicked ermine
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you are this kind of user who use DLSS i bet

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making the image quality worse but want to play in high resolution

grave cipher
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Well if you don't use dlss then no card can do PT within it's targeted market

wicked ermine
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then dont call it PT 1440p card

grave cipher
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Let me buy a 4090 for 1080p native PT type stuff

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I will also point out that nvidias denoiser requires dlss

wicked ermine
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the RTX 4080 super cant barely hold in 1440p 60fps in most games with DLSS with path Tracing

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and i know it i have this card

grave cipher
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If you run no dlss it switches to the amd equivalent which is worse for detail

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And general smearing

wicked ermine
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Yes AMD is worse for Path Tracing

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4k and Path Tracing is not ready for consumer market

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1440p and RayTracing ultra will be something where people can look for, but not the 4k and not PT stuff

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it is all just marketing and i am so sick of this "This card is this kind of"

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not its not

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get Endless Scaling or what ever it is called and even your damn RTX 2060 will be a 4k PT card

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i really dont understand how people can play with FSR or DLSS, the downgrades are visible the ghosting and Noise on DLSS and FSR is so ugly then we have the Problem with Nvidia and FG and it's huge FPS latency

grave cipher
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Dlss is not that bad lol, what you're describing can only be found if you are actively looking for it

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or if the devs have really bad dlss implementation

wicked ermine
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stop coping for DLSS

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the downgrade is visible

grave cipher
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well its here to stay and 99% of people play with it on

wicked ermine
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play in native 1440p with high refresh or if you can with 60+ fps with Raytracing ultra

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the image quality will be so much better

grave cipher
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also you literally need it enabled for nvidias RT denoising

wicked ermine
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DLSS is the modern cancer for Graphics

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DLSS was made for 4k and RT on high end cards and not for low and mid end cards to reach 1440p level of bad quality, you know why DLSS works very well in 4k ? because the difference between native WQHD and 4k is not that huge as it is from 1080p to 1440p

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you know the problem with DLSS ? Stuttering and very unstable Frame times, caused by the lack of Performance of bandwich of the GPU's, DLSS wont safe your GPU or what ever, a RTX 5070 wont be much faster then a RTX 4070ti. But People coping very hard. Name me the top 10 most played games right now, then tell me wich one of them have even basic RayTracing.

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you will be shocked, fortnite is the only one game in 2024 in the top 25 games that has RayTracing and even then it is kinda useless because nobody who is playing competetive games will turn on Raytracing to get more Distracted by Reflections. and 99% of users use DLSS because they bought a Low end GPU (the lowest one from Nvidia) but want to play with max out settings

lusty hinge
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fortnite mentioned

lusty hinge
lusty hinge
grave cipher
# opaque moon i do REALLY like that g502 X plus

quick update i'm back on the G pro superlight, 100% feels better to me for FPS shooters over the G303 (though that is completely subjective and may change on your own personal experience) tbh I think I would recommend potentially buying 2 differently shaped mouses just to see how you compare on one over the other. Though that in of its self is probably only if you take competitiveness seriously

grave cipher
idle flax
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USD yea

grave cipher
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just something I put together quickly. I imagine you'll probably want to change like the case and the cooler if you are after looks

idle flax
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Thanks

grave cipher
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QVL is useless/doesnt matter. dual tower cooler is more than fine, B650 = X870E in terms of unlocked features just X870E has more USB/PCIE/SATA which you can get if you need. avoided AMD in this case because they can and will have issues. he plays E sports titles at a low Res/settings so doesnt need anything beyond a 4070 really and that means he can get a 9800X3D which will impact his performance more than downgrading for a more powerful gpu he won't utilise.

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that cooler specifically is one of the top air cooled performers

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lmfao

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its memory bro not a space ship

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if its not on the QVL it just means they never had the kit to throw in

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the HDV can run 24Gb dimms lol

lusty hinge
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qvl is nearly irrelevant

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outside of a couple boards not supporting silicon power ram or something

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although id probably replace the 9800x3d for a 14900kf or something

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hard to justify +$200 for marginal gains

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its not a mystery box

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i mean id make changes too but its not like its all incompatible

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alhough the "silent system" is going to be achieved from customising fan curves

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ok

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what changes would you make

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what changes would you make

grave cipher
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the horror

lusty hinge
grave cipher
lusty hinge
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hdv/m.2 is so awesome

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i mean its quire clearly an overclock

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AM5 wont run 1:1 above 6000 with xmp

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that photo shows it at 1:1

grave cipher
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what even is this conversation at this point

lusty hinge
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regarded

grave cipher
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I feel like im falling for bait but im not even sure hes doing it on purpose

lusty hinge
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me when my ram is 1:1 at 6200 on am5 (its not an overclock)

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๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

grave cipher
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me when the secondaries are tuned (its not an overclock?????????)

lusty hinge
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๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

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testing stability on xmp

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loool

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okay so again what changes would you make

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all talk so far

grave cipher
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X870E apex and a 7500F with 2x16 and a 7800XT? Esports machine btw

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not doing much sports on that (at least at a high frame rate)

lusty hinge
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why a 7700x though

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it costs more than a 14600k/f

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is the 7700x a microcenter bundle?

grave cipher
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how do you even determine if its going to bottleneck? you're disregarding his use case entirely

lusty hinge
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i put it on the bottleneck calculator and it told me 74.6% at 1080p

grave cipher
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fuckin real

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I wish I thought of that

lusty hinge
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why though

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no one said it will or wont be

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okay so again

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what changes would you make

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what changes would you make

grave cipher
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what doesnt match

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cheapest does not mean worst

lusty hinge
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i think this guy has me blocked

grave cipher
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โŒ

lusty hinge
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that or hes just a huge troll

lusty hinge
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why

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i mean you could easily replace some other parts for a better gpu

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id preferably replace the GF A3 too but yknow

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the cooling is fine

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9800x3d draws like nothing

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is the 7800x3d listing legit

grave cipher
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Im leaning to a troll he'd rather talk bullsh*t than actually change it

lusty hinge
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its not produced anymore

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its hard to believe the 7800x3d is legitimately 100 dollars cheaper on amazon when it hasnt been that price in forever

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???

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just show us something

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literally all talk so far

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ok

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i dont think im prepared enough

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so why dont you make one

grave cipher
lusty hinge
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psu one is a silly issue anyway not many know about it

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GF A3 was part swapped exclusively in the US

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thermaltake switched OEMs to move to a vietnam located OEM to avoid the US sanctions on China

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so for the US its swapped and sucks

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but everywhere else the A3 is decent

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ok

grave cipher
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because it is? i know it works? as per does everyone with a brain?

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yea so you're trolling

lusty hinge
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you havent shown us anything

grave cipher
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no you are looking for a fight, you ranted about how bad dlss is for no reason other than to say it. same here, you are just disregarding stuff in favour of your opinion (which you believe is gods own words?)

lusty hinge
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yeah i figured that one out a while ago

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am i not allowed to be here though

lusty hinge
grave cipher
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unbalanced how

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elaborate with a PCPP

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not words

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just action

lusty hinge
grave cipher
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not for esports titles that are ran at 720P res and 0 on every slider

lusty hinge
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i think my brothers on 720p right now

grave cipher
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โŒ

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literally over half of the CS2 player pop play sub 720P

lusty hinge
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lol

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speedu stop trolling youre cancelled

grave cipher
lusty hinge
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hdv doesnt support 24gb dimms. you must follow qvl. follow the qvl. follow the qvl. ๐Ÿ‘ฝ

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its not micron

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no one said he thought every ram is the same

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i wish i could be like you

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peak schizo poster wtf

grave cipher
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H24M, H24M

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if you're on about the 2x48 config on the HDV thats H24M in a dual rank setup

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that kit can only be H24M lol

lusty hinge
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but

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it can only be that one

grave cipher
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tell me what is it

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correct me here and now

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which is H24M

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and can only be H24M

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no other IC does 6400 32 39 39 in the 24Gbit lineup at 1.35Vdimm

lusty hinge
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uhhh

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lol

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

grave cipher
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he doesnt know what H24M is lmao

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yea Im done I think

lusty hinge
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i wish i could say im laughing but its not even funny anymore

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pure delusion

grave cipher
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hynix only do M die for 24Gbit

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there is no 24Gbit A die

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because 2x32 is infinitely harder to run

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err yea? 24M is easier for the IMC than 16A is and then you have that in a DR config

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24M in SR is infintely easier than 16A in DR

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not to mention 24M actually clocks better than 16A

wicked ermine
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useless to talk to someone who has 0 knowledge about what he is talking but try to give advices that will end in bad Results for the Person.

lusty hinge
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im witnessing a manual purge

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loooool

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hes deleting eveeeerything

grave cipher
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its err interesting to say the least

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so he didnt understand what the abbreviated acronym is for hynix 24 M die and then when he did assumed that 16M = 24M

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which is completely and utterly wrong

lusty hinge
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yeah and then when he was clearly wrong he resorted to what he knows best

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insult someone and make them seem like the stupid person

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so awesome

grave cipher
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dont forget blocking you afterwards

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so he doesnt have to live with the fact you're in the right and hes in the wrong

pulsar fossil
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What do you mean? @lusty hinge is always wrong kappa

lusty hinge
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I AM

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like that one time i said im gonna win the fortnite world cup

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then bugha did

pulsar fossil
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Maybe next time

grave cipher
lusty hinge
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obviously

pulsar fossil
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Maybe I'll see you at the next Global Champs event?

lusty hinge
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omgggg yes

pulsar fossil
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Which of the 3 majors are you planning on winning to earn a spot?

lusty hinge
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all 3 of them

pulsar fossil
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And who will you be playing with?

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It's trios now

lusty hinge
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yeah i dont have a trio its sad

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i havent played in the divisionals or anything

pulsar fossil
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I don't play the game but the events are always fun

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Plus the broadcast talent are very pleasant to be around

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Just a chill little family

lusty hinge
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yeah ill be there next time trust me

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truuust

pulsar fossil
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I'll see you there then

lusty hinge
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๐Ÿ˜Š

grave cipher
pulsar fossil
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I might be able to give you a tour if you do come by

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No promises

lusty hinge
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wtffff

opaque moon
opaque moon
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honestly i though mice with these looked so bulky but after using the basilisk for so long i dont think i can go without that part

lusty hinge
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you need to get every achievement in the game

shadow mantle
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For Glory GGggwp glhf

narrow pivot
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good pc? I am looking to upgrade from my cheap prebuilt that I've had for years. I changed some of the prices because I am probably going to get a microcenter bundle

grave cipher
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if you can give a baseline for what kinda stuff you want to do/what games, graphics and resolution you want to play that would help

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I would also presume that the cpu/board/ram are a bundle?

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one thing I will say is regardless of what you do, you are spending a whole lot on RGB ($485 just on shiny lights)

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I would weigh up how important performance is VS aesthetics

lusty hinge
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pretty poor choices on the ssd and psu

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along with the... the... super expensive icue..

narrow pivot
narrow pivot
narrow pivot
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Here is the reason why I want to go with the corsair icue fans and aio. I plan on keeping this build pc for a long time, then I'll probably upgrade the ram, gpu, cpu, etc as needed when the components get old. But the fans and maybe the aio I can reuse. Basically, it's saving money in the long run. I'm also not just into gaming, I am costantly looking for ways to make my setup better. I want the pc to look really nice on my desk thats in my bedroom.

lusty hinge
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what makes you think theyre high quality fans and aio

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i dont understand why youd pick an aio if your goal is to have this pc for a long time

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an aio is inevitably going to fail

narrow pivot
lusty hinge
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im uh

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not sure if youre aware

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but thats an ai overview

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lol

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not totally helpful and doesnt say too much

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i mean you could just go for other fans and aio

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a lot easier to justify cheaper products

narrow pivot
lusty hinge
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and in this case cheaper doesnt mean bad

lusty hinge
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i mean if youre in the US i dont see why you wouldnt just grab some TL-B12 or something

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theyre just clones of the popular lian li infinity fans

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except they dont cost absurd prices and dont suck

narrow pivot
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do they have reverse blade

lusty hinge
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of the m12-s? no not yet

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its planned

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so many lights

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woooowie

narrow pivot
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looks like a christmas tree

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the gigabyte aorus water force ii aio is $105 and not bad

lusty hinge
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what size

narrow pivot
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360

lusty hinge
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i dont believe its the worst but i dont understand why

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what exactly are you wanting from your aio

narrow pivot
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I want it to look good and match with the rest of the fans

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but also not suck

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anyway going back to ssds, do you reccomend one 4td drive, or one 1tb and one 2tb

lusty hinge
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the 4tb one i linked

narrow pivot
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ok

lusty hinge
narrow pivot
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does this one have screen for $105?

lusty hinge
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yes

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id check it on amazon

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a lot of thermalright products are cheaper on amazon

narrow pivot
lusty hinge
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yes its a screen

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fully customisable

narrow pivot
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ok good

lusty hinge
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gifs, images, screen capture

narrow pivot
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ill keep that one in mid

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but it is purple though

lusty hinge
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believe theres other colours

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that or you just go for the regular warframe

narrow pivot
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yea probably

lusty hinge
grave cipher
lusty hinge
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gigglebyte

narrow pivot
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there are a bunch of these ones on sale

lusty hinge
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$100 for proprietary connections and icue software

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seems like a weird choice over something like a notte

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although you do you

narrow pivot
lusty hinge
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the thermalright frozen notte

narrow pivot
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ooh

lusty hinge
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although i mean if i was to touch back on what you said earlier with the reusing the cooler and fans

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why not go for an air cooler

narrow pivot
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I was thinking of going that route a few weeks ago

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but i could find a good one

lusty hinge
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couldnt*?

narrow pivot
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yea

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oops

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ik the peerless assasin in very popular

lusty hinge
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theres plenty of choices

narrow pivot
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$37 not bad at all

lusty hinge
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i mean for cooling

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a lot of the time

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you can just look up thermalright on amazon

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theyre often the best available if youre not trying to spend ridiculous amounts for marginal gains because theyre not super expensive like others such as deepcool or noctua

narrow pivot
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I'll definitely have to see what aios and air coolers are at microcenter/bestbuy

lusty hinge
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they produce their own designs so theres no middle man oem

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so they can just sell it for cheaper than the competition

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god i love thermalright โค๏ธ

narrow pivot
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lol i've also heard great things about it

lusty hinge
narrow pivot
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yea

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I live 20 minutes away from a microcenter, i can always see what deals they have going on once i go to get all of my main parts

lusty hinge
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20 minutes away is awesome

narrow pivot
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yea, ive only been there once, years ago with my dad to get a laptop for school

lusty hinge
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its not often they have good prices on things outside of the motherboard bundles and some refurb gpus and then their other products like laptops or prebuilts but sometimes they have some good prices

narrow pivot
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

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so, 750w or 850w

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for psu

lusty hinge
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depends which psu youre choosing. out of the 2 i linked? both are fine and id probably just flip a coin

narrow pivot
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which ever ones cheaper at microcenter

lusty hinge
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would probably see what specific models they have in stock

narrow pivot
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yup

lusty hinge
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although its not often the good 750w psus are saving much money

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i mean in the US if youre ordering online the only worthwhile 750w is the core reactor ii and even then its the same price as the sl-850g

narrow pivot
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ok

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What do you think about the Lian Li Edge 850w? It has really nice individualy braided cables with cable combs so I would have to get cable extensions to hide the ugly cables

wicked ermine
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and dont listen to people who say the parts are overpriced you chose, i payed way more money for my parts but at the end i got quality and you can feel and see it. Lian Li is expensive but the amount of upgrades or Feautures you can add to the system is huge.

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never cheap out on PSU/AIO/Fans/Case this are the tools who keep your System Cool and Stable

lusty hinge
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nice one buddy

grave cipher
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nah let him cook

lusty hinge
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its often overpriced and isnt even too good of a psu

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the only thing it has going for it is its cables

narrow pivot
lusty hinge
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awful price

narrow pivot
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the other ones are 90-100?

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And i would be buying $20 cable extension if I got one of the other ones

wicked ermine
lusty hinge
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the 80 plus rating is irrelevant

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120 is overpriced lol

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it costs more than better psus

wicked ermine
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dont forget on a psu you will pay for the condensators

narrow pivot
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its either 80+ gold or platinum, but i've also heard that it is irrelevant

wicked ermine
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it is irrelevant if electrecity cost not much

grave cipher
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it is im pretty sure gamersnexus made a dedicated video on it as well

lusty hinge
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its always irrelevant

grave cipher
wicked ermine
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but at the end i use a Titanium and i will say you there is a Power Consume by the PSU that is wasted and there is a big difference between Gold and Titanium

lusty hinge
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the 80 plus rating doesnt tell you how good of a psu it is

wicked ermine
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get the 850w psu because you can get later on a GPU upgrade with the 750w Psu you will have problems with a future upgrade if the GPU use more power

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the sweet spot on a PSU is in watt usage by 65 - 85ยฐ

lusty hinge
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the 850w psu he mentioned is worse than the one i linked earlier

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yet costs 30 dollars more

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lol

wicked ermine
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at this they work the best

narrow pivot
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Guys i have an idea!

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I can just get this onehttps://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjF1tPy24eLAxULSv8BHX6sLZ8YABASGgJtZA&ae=2&aspm=1&co=1&ase=5&gclid=Cj0KCQiAqL28BhCrARIsACYJvkdrGMEtc50p_bdTVWi7D9iynzXS_LXUHYF6bvvXGO56V0FZN9YXhGgaAkLHEALw_wcB&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESVOD2sq702qYdJERsw9k3v8Urt1dJd_kinh_fRTIJ0CTti8NfFG7PGJ3U5cBDAsXqtfmNSjWeqsruOPRp9Q1Micy5shkyRU2uZAWDw2jcHVIDRl6f3A&sig=AOD64_0W6YCJ4LssGFgNBqWElRFr41RD6w&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwj9387y24eLAxUetokEHYQ0NmAQ9aACKAB6BAgFEA8&adurl=

lusty hinge
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its not even the best 2000w psu

grave cipher
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lusty hinge
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speedu why do you expect allxtend to watch

narrow pivot
lusty hinge
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allxtend is only here to say we're wrong and stupid yet to not tell us or show us why

wicked ermine
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and dont listen to Lisquie and the other guy, they have no idea what they are talking about and no real experience plus i blocked this losers already

lusty hinge
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lol told you

narrow pivot
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guys violence is not the answer

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ai overview is

lusty hinge
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ai overview is a waste of time

narrow pivot
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lol

grave cipher
wicked ermine
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remember the cheap products from Brands wont give you better Quality, they will give you better quality and the parts you chose are resonable and cheap

gloomy pasture
lusty hinge
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what does this even mean

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chat

narrow pivot
grave cipher
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like you can kinda make out what he means if you pick out the key phrases

wicked ermine
# narrow pivot use the sonar channel

i can say the system you build there is good, but for 1440p and 165hz it will be not enough from the GPU, if you use a VRR monitor then you wont get 165hz output, and the 5070 wont put out more Performance then a 4080

lusty hinge
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the 5070 performance is unknown

gloomy pasture
wicked ermine
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but for the price the system is good, and resonable

lusty hinge
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reviews are kept under NDA until the gpus release

narrow pivot
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then sonar

grave cipher
lusty hinge
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he did have a pretty awesome leather jacket tbf

narrow pivot
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so uh

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is the lian li psu good

wicked ermine
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but get a 850w one otherwise you will have problems if you upgrade your GPU in the future

wicked ermine
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then go for it if you want it

narrow pivot
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the only options are 850, 1000, 1300

wicked ermine
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yea 850 is good you will even be able to run a RTX 5080 with it

lusty hinge
grave cipher
# narrow pivot it is 850w

I would personally advise listening to @lusty hinge on this. I've had previous debates with this guy and he is pretty lacking in the knowledge department if im being honest

lusty hinge
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its overpriced and costs more than actual good psus

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i already said this

lusty hinge
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average power draw and transient spikes are unknown

narrow pivot
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Lisquie what psu would you recommend again

wicked ermine
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dont forget Psu cables cost alot if you want them to fit,

lusty hinge
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psu cables are included with your psu ๐Ÿ˜Š

narrow pivot
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AsRock challenger CL-850G

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$90

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non modular though

wicked ermine
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if you want to use Lian Li cables from your old system then you will be suprised how much custom cables will cost

lusty hinge
# narrow pivot Lisquie what psu would you recommend again
lusty hinge
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where did that come from

wicked ermine
narrow pivot
wicked ermine
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and now you want to do cable managment ?

narrow pivot
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its a prebuilt

wicked ermine
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the look of the pc is the most important part

narrow pivot
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thats a hot take

lusty hinge
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not the performance or anything

wicked ermine
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if you want everything shiny and a specific color or brand then you will spend more money then on a RTX 4080 super

narrow pivot
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I care about price to performance and aesthetics

wicked ermine
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the 7700x and RTX 5070 are a good price to performance products

narrow pivot
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ik

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thats why i picked them

wicked ermine
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i will say go with Lian LI Edge PSU but this is the Premium Look of luxury

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if you want to build Lian Li Build then go for this PSU

lusty hinge
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why

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why do you say that

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seriously what makes you recommend a psu that costs more than a better one

wicked ermine
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if you want to spend less money i can just recomend BeQuiet PSU's

lusty hinge
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why

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what be quiet psu

wicked ermine
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they have resonable and good quality Products

lusty hinge
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they also have bad psus

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what model specifically are you suggesting

narrow pivot
lusty hinge
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i dont have the equipment that costs tens of thousands, no

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im looking at professional reviews

narrow pivot
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ok makes sense

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not ai overveiws right

lusty hinge
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no

narrow pivot
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ok good lol

wicked ermine
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do not trust every "Professional" review, most "Professional" reviewers are not that Professional and more like Sponsored

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User Benchmark is the best to show how "Professional it is"

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so that it is already a running meme for years

lusty hinge
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thank god im not looking at userbenchmark for psu reviews then loll

wicked ermine
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Linus Tech Tips is one too, talking very good at something, when the next thing comes out, the old thing had just problems

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most Big Tech Channels on youtube benchmarking very wrong, they use the best of the best parts but this are not the real Benchmarks a normal Consumer will have

lusty hinge
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what

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of course theyre using the best of the best parts

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why would you benchmark something like a 9800x3d with a 4070

wicked ermine
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for example, benchmarking the entry GPU with the strongest CPU, nobody will use a Intel Arc b580 with a Ryzen 9800x3d or Intel 14900k, and after the big tech channels hyped Intel B580 up that people bought the products like crazy, they was saying "ohhh if you have entry level CPU's or older CPUS then the RTX 4060 will perform better

lusty hinge
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no of course they wont

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but theyre using it to reduce the chance that the CPU is actually the limiting factor in the benchmark

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the idea is to get as much performance as you can out of the GPU

wicked ermine
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if you want real Professionals for advice then dont ask people who can not and never owned this "10.000 PC's they are talking about" because if they had no experience with it then they can not give you a advice

lusty hinge
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you dont need to own something to read professional reviews

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actually

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why am i wasting my time here

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weve had this exact discussion before

wicked ermine
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quality PSU's will cost you around 100 - 150$ easy

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and never cheap out on a PSU because this is the Rule number one, if you buy expensive hardware then be sure the PSU wont be a china bomber at the worst, and at its best just shut down because Consendators are cheap just shut down if the GPU spices in specific Scenarios"

lusty hinge
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c.. condensators..?

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why are you trying to bring condensation in your psu? ๐Ÿ˜น

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i dont think you know what youre talkig about lmfaoo

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no one uses that term anymore

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its super outdated

wicked ermine
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i make a screenshot of your stupidity and make a meme out of it in the official Ryzen OC Channel

lusty hinge
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do it lol

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its an old term for capacitors

wicked ermine
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yes you are stupid as i see

lusty hinge
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i bet your screenshot will be conventialy cropped to not show me saying that directly underneath lol

wicked ermine
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Car is the old tearm of Viecle right ?

lusty hinge
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if im so stupid

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what are condensators

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correct me

wicked ermine
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so much stupidity no diea about anything but talks too much

lusty hinge
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yeah im really stupid

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what are condensators

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go on

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please correct me and prove how stupid i am

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what are condensators

wicked ermine
lusty hinge
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no no

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you dont get to call me stupid several times then tell me to google it

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what are they

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if condensators isnt an outdated term for capacitors, what is it?

wicked ermine
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you googled it, wait you even say "why bring them in to a PSU" ?`

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you had no idea what it was then googled it

lusty hinge
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no that was just my poor attempt at humour but alright

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goodbye

wicked ermine
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Kinda huge troll you are

lusty hinge
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lel

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cat ears on the hd560s whaaaaat

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dirty mouse pad in the background im trying to replace

grave cipher
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the cat setup is crazy

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where are my dog lovers at

opaque moon
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does anybody recommend a specific type of viper

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i just want a white one but idk what variant to get, there's so many

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i want one with rubber grips on it but i could just buy those after

high cove
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viper v2 (89) or superlight

grave cipher
# opaque moon is that guy just picking beef with everyone ?

kinda, he refuses to consider other points even if presented with reliable sources/information. on top of that he appears to only have surface level knowledge about a lot of stuff which is fine, but not when you refuse to ever go beyond that while attempting to prove someone else wrong who does have better knowledge about the topic at hand

narrow pivot
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please rate my new setup

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(I do need fifteen 20TB external ssd's)

grave cipher
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its not even emr ๐Ÿ›Œ ๐Ÿ’ค

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its fucking X99 lol (it fucking sucks at even just working)

narrow pivot
grave cipher
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emerald rapids

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new HEDT/server for intel

narrow pivot
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I have no clue what that is

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I just found the most expensive thing for east part

verbal thicket
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Can we choose what Steelseries runs on? Between the graphics card or the processor? Or does this setting not exist on your Steelseries GG application?

lusty hinge
#

what

lusty hinge
uncut shale
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Do you have any configuration for cs2, apex pro mini keyboard?

grave cipher
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I personally run the lowest actuation distance that doesnt cause issues

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can't run rapid tap? I think its called? since you'll get booted from whatever match you're playing for having it on

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its the toggleable feature that gives perfect counter strafing

pulsar fossil
opaque moon
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will be using this until I order the viper

grave cipher
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G402 is for winners ngl

opaque moon
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I do like this size and shape, very comfortable

opaque moon
grave cipher
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I think they all suck

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for logitech you can use logitech memory manager and that is actual peek software

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it just like works, no updates no random bullsh*t you boot it up and it works

opaque moon
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i HATE razer synapse.

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it doesn't let me use it without internet

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basically them saying "you need internet to use your mouse binds even though there's onboard memory"

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not to mention that app picks the worse times to update or randomly pop up on my screen when i'm doing something

opaque moon
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somebody quick

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can I use this for 7700xt

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just a 6+2

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x2

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8 total but one pcie cable

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I mean 16 total

grave cipher
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Not going above 300w so shouldn't matter

opaque moon
grave cipher
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Yea that's fine

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Total pin rated power is 225w +75w for the pcie slot power officially

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You could definitely do +50% on top of that with no issues

lusty hinge
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only good ones i know of are keychron and lamzu

lusty hinge
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a single cable / 8 pin port would hypothetically even cover transients

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itd be pretty disgusting though

pulsar fossil
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Again.. Don't spam. Last warning

opaque moon
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well now it's not turning on. Last time i had this issue it was 4 bent pins and those are fixed

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I also correctly wired the annoying jfp things

lusty hinge
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pcie5 compliant

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sexy

opaque moon
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I was building with a prime B450M-A but I just got a new motherboard is it possible they are reversed

lusty hinge
opaque moon
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if it doesn't turn on its smth else

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yea it's still not turning on

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I'm just gonna take the psu out later and make sure everything is plugged in

grave cipher
# opaque moon

check plug socket, cable, PSU side/switch and all the connections from the psu to the board

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and if your using custom cables use the original psu ones

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also for this Id remove the power button header and just use a screwdriver to short them

opaque moon
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honestly it could be the surge protector

hidden nymph
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Skibidi toilet

opaque moon
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speedu my goat

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๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ goat material

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the internet isn't working on it though, even though the antennas are screwed in

lusty hinge
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did you install wifi drivers

opaque moon
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no

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I gotta whip out the ethernet cable?? ๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿ’”

lusty hinge
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or a usb from another device

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if you have ethernet available to you you shouldn't even be using wireless

shut tangle
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anybody here know what a good place to build a PC is?

lusty hinge
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in your room

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on the kitchen table

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on the kitchen floor

shut tangle
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lmao

lusty hinge
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on the living room floor

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on the living room table if you have one of those

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in the bathroom

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realistically anywhere

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why

opaque moon
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my mom is constantly complaining about it so i would just rather use wireless

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anybody got a good ARGB program for strimers

opaque moon
opaque moon
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i would use ethernet but i am chained and forced to use wireless

formal oar
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who can help me setup my cliping thing so it work

opaque moon
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what gpu do you have

formal oar
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idk but can u join vc to help me pls

lusty hinge
opaque moon
lusty hinge
opaque moon
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no I'm using the airgoo ones

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they're just argb so it's on my motherboard

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it's 2025 and I don't have anything lian li ๐Ÿ’”๐Ÿ’”

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my gpu wattage is maxing out on roblox

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270 watts

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and everything keeps freezing

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constant stutters every few seconds

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is 100w normal on idle

heady warren
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Itโ€™s my first time building a pc and I would like some feedback on my part list

grave cipher
grave cipher
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like games graphics settings resolution and refresh rate

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etc

heady warren
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Uhm gonna be used mostly for gaming on high res and programming/ building my own game.

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Games like cyber punk/ marvel rivals

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And some 2d platformers but those will run for sure

heady warren
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Im getting another 27โ€ on the side but lower refresh rate just for discord/ other things

heady warren
grave cipher
#

I would then go with 2x24 memory and maybe a glance towards intel/8 core ryzen? It would depend on how demanding whatever engine you're using is for development. could also get a Peerless Assassin 120 SE for cpu cooling, and a potential motherboard swap to the B650 HDV if you stick on amd

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gaming wise it looks solid

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@lusty hinge could give some recommendations on the PSU/SSD side of stuff

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since im not really into that part of tech

lusty hinge
#
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vi5000 is technically better iirc but its not important enough to matter if its just gaming + OS

lusty hinge
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its not an issue but yknow

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theres a few interesting psu choices

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is it staying as a 7600x + 4070?

heady warren
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Yeaโ€ฆ

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As I said my first time building

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And part picking

grave cipher
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A lot of parts and A lot of knowledge to be gained from it

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also a lot of potential first time build errors to make on picking out parts

heady warren
lusty hinge
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you could probably get a better gpu

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whats your budget not including monitors

opaque moon
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dude I am constantly crashing

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my gpu drivers are up to date

lusty hinge
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probably wont change

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but you never know

heady warren
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So Iโ€™m now 45 over which ist big of a problem

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Isnt*

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Cuz Iโ€™m also buying a new desk cuz my desk rn is way to small to fit a pc and 2 monitors

grave cipher
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check how much the 7600/7500f is

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if its considerably cheaper consider one

heady warren
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Is it a big difference fps and graphics wise?

opaque moon
grave cipher
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tbh no

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the cores are clocked a little lower

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but you can just OC the performance loss back

heady warren
grave cipher
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cpu

heady warren
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Like 30 euros cheaper

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So not that big of a drop

opaque moon
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bro

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every time I alt tab I crash

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everything freezes

grave cipher
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amd driver timeout simulator

opaque moon
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didnt start happening until i put the new motherboard in

lusty hinge
# heady warren Was aiming towards 1300

if youre able to do 80 more id grab this. probably change the ram if you fancy playing around with it
https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/cYTBTM
you can change motherboard to this if youre happy with matx and dont need wifi - https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/27MMnQ/asrock-b650m-pg-lightning-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pg-lightning
if youre happy to lose manufacturer warranty on the cpu the 7500f is cheaper by quite a bit - https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/ms4Zxr/amd-ryzen-5-7500f-37-ghz-6-core-oemtray-processor-100-000000597

cooler link - https://amzn.eu/d/5lsfLgR

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psu review is uhhh

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on a 4070 super its fine

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if you wanted full modular for whatever reason then its no biggie but youd probably have to change the cpu or something to go cheaper

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i have no idea about monitors which is why i removed it lel

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you could actually save 25 euros and use the included stock cooler

heady warren
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Thanks Iโ€™ll look at it when I get home from work

lusty hinge
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it doesnt have any of the awesome ram or anything but if youre not actually going to overclock it doesnt seem worth it

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7500f might be a bit of an F if youre actually a dev and not just "im bored, lets open unity and mess around"

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as in it might be more worthwhile changing to a 12600k or something

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i have no idea what the current awesome ram is and im too scared to open hwbot to find out

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@grave cipher whats god tier ram + board rn if youre dropping stupid money on oc

grave cipher
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All ddr5 ram is more or less the same

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6000 c30 = 8000 36

lusty hinge
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heeeell yeah

grave cipher
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And are always hynix

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A/m shouldn't really matter for daily systems

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Either or is good

lusty hinge
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m stopped production a while back anyway didnt it

grave cipher
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No idea I just know that some kits still have them

lusty hinge
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weird

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last i heard it ended prod like late 2023

grave cipher
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Just backlogged stock

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Takes a good amount of time for that to completely disappear

lusty hinge
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yeah i would imagine so

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especially when you have bapo with people trying to get a 14900k on ddr4

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silly

grave cipher
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Only worth ddr4 is no ddr4

lusty hinge
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is hdv/m.2 still a top tier board for oc

grave cipher
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For amd yea

lusty hinge
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i saw one pop up on fb actually for dirt cheap

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shame i already have a pc

grave cipher
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Unless you're an 8000 coper shouldn't make a difference

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You get 90% mem perf in 1:1

lusty hinge
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yeah that makes sense

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i think gloomy tried running a 7700x at 7200 as if it was worth it

grave cipher
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You need 7800 to beat 6000 lol

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Anything else is plain worse

lusty hinge
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lel

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lga1700 doesnt have gear 1 right? for ddr5

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is 6000 cl whatever still worthwhile on it

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here we go

opaque moon
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bro what this??

lusty hinge
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task manager

opaque moon
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ZERO processes

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its not freezing anymore

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but when i close a game i cant reopen anything

grave cipher
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Alder is 6400 - 7200

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Raptor is 7600 - 8400

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Obviously board makes a massive difference to the above

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If you're trying to run out of the box stable I'd run 6000 on alder and 6400 on raptor

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You can do higher on raptors mc just you have to account for board quality

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And every board should do 6400 for the most part

grave cipher
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For this you have to account for the fact he's on a dual CCD chip so mem scaling is a lot different

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2 ccd = 2 IF links = double max bandwidth

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Single ccd going to be a lot worse in 2:1

lusty hinge
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ahhh

opaque moon
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my 7700xt was at 80 watts on roblox, it skyrocketed to 270 after 30 seconds of playing then the screen turned white

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anybody have an idea

opaque moon
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every game is stuttering now too

opaque moon
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i fixed it i think

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redownloaded drivers

opaque moon
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like pcie and stuff

grave cipher
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oh yea well if you didnt download them in the first place

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but windows should of

grave cipher
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that is probably the best board for 1700 ngl

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ยฃ280 still more than the HDV for am5 but gonna do high frequency easy

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and you get 7 digit display

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and yes i have only found it right now at this very moment

opaque moon
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are any of these good

narrow pivot
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I've been using the arctis 1 wireless for years, works perfectly and had no problems with it

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I highly recommend it

opaque moon
lusty hinge
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yeah its the 5090 FE pcb

opaque moon
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does signalrgb lighting not work with GPU fans

lusty hinge
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depends on the gpu

opaque moon
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7700xt SL

lusty hinge
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i would have thought the steel legend would have worked

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does it have a software

opaque moon
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yea im using it for the lights

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i dont know if i can do multi color patterns on here

lusty hinge
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hmmm

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i have no idea unfortunately

opaque moon
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might be able to

lusty hinge
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i wish i had a steel legend card

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they look awesome ๐Ÿคค

opaque moon
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i need to get a vertical mount for mine

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cant have these beautiful fans be covered

opaque moon
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i had a 6500xt ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

opaque moon
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what's even worse is i had a 580 before the 6500xt

lusty hinge
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is that even much of an upgrade

opaque moon
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not at all

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you could say its a downgrade because i lost the encoder

lusty hinge
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rippp

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at least yorue on 7700xt now

opaque moon
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yea

grave cipher
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nitro + looks sexy ngl

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OCF looks nice

lusty hinge
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id probably want a phantom card tbh

grave cipher
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idk side on it looks kinda ehh

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gives me cheapo vibes

lusty hinge
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idk man AMD aibs suck

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theres only like 3 good cards

grave cipher
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tbh in terms of actual good gpus amd have about as many good aibs as nvidia now

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like nvidia has msi and asus

lusty hinge
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i meant as in how they look but yeah youre right

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sapphire pulse is stupid this gen even though people praise sapphire

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7900 GRE sapphire pulse is PL lower than the rest of the GREs even though the PCB is identical so it just performs worse

grave cipher
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sapphire make goods cards just don't buy the pulse

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same with asus on nvidias end tbh

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asus make good gpu

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but dual oc is still not a good model

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sounds still better than the pulse though ngl

lusty hinge
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a lot of board partners are obsessed with making dual fan models for 250w+ cards