💻-building-a-pc

[lusty hinge]

Galax HOF 4090 PCB 😊

i think the other is either a 4080 or a 3090 ti

i cant remember and im too lazy to google it

[chrome wren]

3000 series used 3x 8 pins, and that was over, 2 8 pins would have been enough (but would only give 25w for spikes)

[lusty hinge]

sometimes companies like to do a funny

i mean even 7900XTX and 7900XT have a 12+4

[chrome wren]

3080 is like 350w
5090 is reported to be 600w

[lusty hinge]

yummy

space heater

[chrome wren]

They've gone mad

[lusty hinge]

nooo cuz its still gonna be locked

😿😿

[chrome wren]

Instead of making them more efficient, they're just like, give it more power

[lusty hinge]

quick UV should do a trick

[chrome wren]

Imagine how fast current stuff would be if programmers decided to actually optimise their stuff

[lusty hinge]

ewww what the hell? optimisation? in 2024?

[chrome wren]

It used to be let's make it as small and efficient as possible because the hardware was limited and now they are like they have loads of storage and 600w GPU's it'll work

[lusty hinge]

dont forget DLSS 😊

ill make my game get 20fps on a 4090 at 1080p 😊😊

they have DLSS why should i care!

[chrome wren]

Like, look at how big notepad is now compared to early text editors

Might only be hundreds of megabytes, but they have text editors that did the same stuff for KB back in the day

We could go back to low power PC's while still getting good visuals and performance if they just optimised stuff.

If other parts of my PC have broken because of the PSU im gonna lose it

[lusty hinge]

hmmm

howd the psu die

just randomly decided it had enough?

[chrome wren]

Had coil whine for the past couple months, Tried doing an RMA but the RMA process is dumb so just stuck with the noise, and then it turned off, flipped my breakers too, flipped it back on it flipped instantly, so unplugged stuff, pc cable was what stopped it from flipping, pulled the psu out completely not plugged into the pc, plugged it in and sparks

Monitors are fine, USB's that were plugged in are fine, don't see any damage or burn marks on anything

[lusty hinge]

weird

probably just gave up

psus do that sometimes

theres a few that love to just kill themselves like that

[chrome wren]

Yeah, it threw sparks at me when I had it out

[lusty hinge]

i know the EVGA GT likes to fizzle, die and take nothing

if i had to guess, the G+ would do the same. theyre both the same platform

[chrome wren]

Hopefully with my house electricity actually flipping the breaker and the surge protection in the PSU itself, hopefully everything is fine

Fact that there's not visible damage is a good sign

[lusty hinge]

GT like to die

[chrome wren]

Knowing my luck, it'll be my GPU that's died just before the 5000 release, and I'd need to buy a gpu now and then upgrade in a couple of months....

[lusty hinge]

hopefully not

that would definitely suck

[chrome wren]

That's what happened to me just before 4000 series released

Was going to get a 4000 series but my GPU died just before they released them, so stuck with a 3000 series

[lusty hinge]

riip

get a 3 x 12+4 5090

[chrome wren]

Won't be long before you need 2 power supplies, just for the GPUxD

[lusty hinge]

😊

[chrome wren]

71% increase is power in 4 years

At that rate 7000 series will use over 1000w

[lusty hinge]

it would be quite funny

[chrome wren]

9000 series 1700w

There only so much more efficiency they can gain from the node used too

Can't really get smaller than 3nm node

[trim owl]

Is this a good pc? https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y4wMqR

[chrome wren]

@lusty hinge good news, it was just the PSU that blew up, bad news this PSU has coil whine already..... it does 100% fan when it boots too

[grave cipher]

What's the use case for it

[red parrot]

Pretty sure he is just joking

[grave cipher]

I suspect since x299 is a dead platform

But I will assume good faith

[lusty hinge]

it could be worse!

[trim owl]

Stream very high quality.

[grave cipher]

well a 14900KS and an Arc 380 will do that if you wish to keep it as one big system

[chrome wren]

It's so annoying, tempted to just return it and pay more for a seasonic or something

[lusty hinge]

i mean seasonic is just a brand

not really a way to determine quality of a psu

[wicked ermine]

for workload this System is good but for gaming there are way better options, if you want to do workload then why even chose this CPU when you have better options on AMD side like the 7950 / 9950 or even the Intel 14900 but i can not recomend intel because more and more people are reporting with dead 13/14th gen cpu's.

[lusty hinge]

i can easily recommend intel 🥱🥱

[grave cipher]

dead intel chips was a motherboard skill issue, after 9000 release its a user skill issue

[fervent bane]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KwzRTM

is this good? i wnat it less than 800 usd

i do want a nvidia gpu and intel cpu tho

[grave cipher]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p9mvfd

I would of changed the ssd as well but you already bought it

My advice to you is learn how to oc

You can use the r/oc discord or r/buildapc discord for help

[fervent bane]

yeah it’s def not a good ssd but i’m just making a whole new pc. So i already have one ima just use it for now

[grave cipher]

Ahh okay

Those sticks you have overclock really really well btw

They're the best for ddr4

[fervent bane]

oh nice i didn’t even know that

[grave cipher]

As I said ^

[fervent bane]

what do you think i’ll be able to boost them too? ik i don’t have a z series mobo tho

[grave cipher]

I put that in my pc part picker list

[grave cipher]

^

You buy that system then you are sorted basically

But they should do 4200 - 4400 the ram themselves on that board

And it allows for cpu overclocking

Trust me when you are on a tight budget overclocking changes a very mediocre system into a very good one

It's a massive difference

[lusty hinge]

can get CX 2023 for a little bit more

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nNTZxr/corsair-cx-2023-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020278-na

although at this point may aswell just spend the extra on a better 750

but the cx has better FET's, better SBRs, and better transient response on the 3.3V rail compared to the GX2 😊
awesome ripple protection is better too

[lusty hinge]

basically the same ways its better than the a650bn which is silly

[nimble spade]

could some one help me i was gifted this computer is there anything i could do to upgrade this or should i start off fresh i wanna be able to play warzone at high quality right now im only getting 70FPS max unless im doing something wrong definitely dont know what im doing!! Thanks for any help in advance

[grave cipher]

afaik warzone loves memory performance

though you'd need a new chip and board to really do anything useful there

you can increase the capacity if they are only 2x8

[lusty hinge]

doesnt warzone also weirdly love rdna4

you could get a 6750xt but then you end up buying a 6750xt

which is sad

[grave cipher]

The cod engine has a very heavy basis towards Rnda 2 and 3

6750xt is like a 3090ti/4070ti iirc?

Tbf 6750xt is actually a pretty good card for mid to high end 1440p, just don't enable RT lol

[lusty hinge]

oh yeah whoops rdna 3

[lavish stag]

What do you think about 4070 super and i5 14400f?

[grave cipher]

why a 14400f?

[lavish stag]

that's good no?

[grave cipher]

its okay, but you'd do better on 13600k or a 12700k

[lavish stag]

Okay thank you

[tawny axle]

Never had a PC, only laptops. Is this an okay build?

Primary use will be for 3D rendering. So, Unreal Engine and general gaming

[lusty hinge]

probably not

it doesnt specificy what RM850x it is

ram is stupid

990 pro is well, a 990 pro. its good but yaknow likely uber overpriced

is that a 14900 or a 14900KF or what

[tawny axle]

Are you meaning the power supply with the RM850? It's the 14900, I know the K is better

[tawny axle]

Why's the RAM Stupid?

[lusty hinge]

well its uber slow

and corsair so lel

but i get 5200 without xmp lol

[lusty hinge]

14900 is a weird choice but sure.
RM850x could be good or mid. depends what one it is

if its the newest one its fine

[grave cipher]

personally I would just build it instead, a lot of the parts are strange and I bet that they're selling for decently above the normal MSRP for those parts + labour

or at least seek a place that offers custom builds

[lusty hinge]

youre telling me a h100i on a 14900 is weird?

hehe

i agree

[grave cipher]

a 14900 and a z790 with ddr5 5200 is weird

and yea a bad 240mm rad from corsair is also strange

honestly it sounds like that build is just to get rid of excess stock

[lusty hinge]

of course it is

they could at least specify what RM850x it is

[grave cipher]

I bet its like $3000 as well

[lusty hinge]

oh yeah of course its some stupid price

205 Mesh C is silly

why is this 70 pounds

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/63TZxr/crucial-pro-overclocking-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-cp2k16g60c36u5w

[grave cipher]

I imagine that micron wants a return on ddr5 at some point

[lusty hinge]

errr

oh yeah micron crucial

[grave cipher]

yea

since the general consensus is for ddr5 is avoid micron and samsung and buy hynix

so probably not a lot of buyers outside of oems

[lusty hinge]

mmm hynix

hynix gets me 1000fps

[grave cipher]

I'm getting some DJR soon so Im gonna see if i can beat am5 ddr5

running like 5600 DDR4

[lusty hinge]

holy moly

thats scary

[tawny axle]

right so I've said it'll be my first build and I've gotten "weird" "Stupid" and said no better alternatives to look at, except the link to the ram. That's just not helpful is it. Yes it's the ATX 3.0 for the power supply. Why is the case "silly". Actually just ignore this cause you're not gonna reply with anything useful for me to look at anyway to stop it being "weird"

[lusty hinge]

well yeah we cant really help without knowing anything

whats your budget? when are you buying? any aesthetic preferences? whats the computer for?

[lusty hinge]

@tawny axle see above message

[rose bough]

So random question out of curiosity. Is going AM4 worth it so I only have to replace my motherboard, case, and CPU and can just pull the rest of the components over to the new build?

Or should I continue to plan on AM5?

From a price point I mean.

[grave cipher]

you may as well go am5 at that point

or lga1700

[formal socket]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DRFW3w
what do yall think (I cant get a 4k monitor rn)

[chrome wren]

I'd change AIO, case and PSU atleast honestly

I'd change AIO to Arctic Freezer 3
That case Iirc is quite small and that psu is overpriced, I'd change that to thermaltake gf3 850 or a nzxt c850

[pure wedge]

@chrome wren can you possibly help me with my headset?

[chrome wren]

What about it

[pure wedge]

I dont know I dont hear my voice i have used discords mic test and all i could hear was my desktop volume going up and down sounds

[lusty hinge]

is that 7800x3d even legit

what the hell is this computer for

TUF 850G for $214??

[formal socket]

i already have most of these parts

[chrome wren]

Yeah that PSU is so overpriced xD

[formal socket]

i got the psu for like 130

[pure wedge]

xnightwulf

[lusty hinge]

why mention him twice lmfao

[chrome wren]

You got your mic set to Sonar Stream instead of mic? @pure wedge

[pure wedge]

these are what i have it on

[lusty hinge]

nice one

[chrome wren]

Change input to Steelseries Sonar - Microphone

And then what microphone are you trying to use?
Make sure that one is selected in sonar for mic

[pure wedge]

1st or 2nd?

3rd i meant

[chrome wren]

Default

[pure wedge]

what for output

[lusty hinge]

chat..?

[rapid turret]

i can hear stuff but people cant hear me and i have the artics nova 1 headset on pc

[pure wedge]

do people hear your game also?

[cobalt stone]

If I want to buy an internal hard drive is this where I put it

[tawny axle]

My budget is £3k. I purchased it yesterday, but I can make any amendments. I don't have any preferences tbh (RGB looks pretty cool tho), computers primarily for work... so 3D Modelling, Rendering (using softwares like Unreal Engine, Twinmotion, Revit, Rhino, Adobe suite). I did more research after you mentioned it and seen getting the 6000 ram would be alot better than the 5200 for my uses, so i switched that, however I'm building it on PC Specialist website and it said the motherboard and ram wouldn't be compatible for some reason, so I went for a slight less premium motherboard GIGABYTE Z790 GAMING X AX. So I could get the 6000 Ram. I'll show a pic of the changes. (I liked the tempered glass case, but I know it isn't as good as cooling as the mesh, so got 3x more fans to help with that

Will be 9 fans total

Apparantly the only main difference between the motherboard is the more premium look the strix has and the Wi-Fi 7, but I'll be hooked up on ethernet anyway

[grave cipher]

for 3D modeling would you not want a beefer gpu?

and you can keep the strix board if you wish, PC specialist is just jank apparently

[heady cliff]

Is rx 7600xt and ryzen 7 7800X3D good for 1440p

[rose bough]

CPU, yes, no idea about ryzen gpus

since I've always used NVIDIA

[grave cipher]

no you want to switch it around

like 7800XT and 7700x

[static pecan]

Depends what games you play, the level of detail, and monitor refresh rate

You aren't going to get 144fps max detail at 1440p w/ a 7600. But 120fps medium/high 1440p is definitely possible with that card

[lusty hinge]

this is easily the most questionable cpu+gpu pairing ive ever seen

[rose bough]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KFtgb2 Question: is this hardware worth doing a case swap, assuming the motherboard isn't dead and it was just user error that caused the PC to not start?

(ignore the fact that there's no CPU cooler, I'm gonna be getting a new one)

[lusty hinge]

case swaps are basically never "worth it"

paying more money for something that isnt even necessary for a computer to start

[rose bough]

Oh the case swap was happening regardless

since the current case is impossible to expand storage in

and I do mean impossible

I tried, there physically is no clearance to the SATA ports on the MOBO because of where the drive cage is located.

[lusty hinge]

of course it is, youre just trying to spend more for worse

stop buying shoddy 1tb hdd

[rose bough]

I wasn't buying any

I already had two extras I was trying to connect

It has an NVMe in that top slot that has the OS on it

[lusty hinge]

just replace the existing storage with larger drives

theres 2 m.2 slots

[rose bough]

I have a 4 TB external HDD I've been considering shucking

but again, this is assuming a dead mobo

which would mean the mobo needs replacing anyway

(I'm assuming that since even with everything plugged in, there was no debug lights and the PC wouldn't power on at all)

[rose bough]

I plan on replacing one of the HDDs anyway since it's 8 years old, I just need to get the data off it. The other two have just been sitting in the case, unused.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-A-PRO/Specification I also put the wrong MOBO in that parts list, it's this one

[grave cipher]

have you considered a secondary system that is just for mass storage?

though it probably will be more expensive than you'd want for a proper setup

[fervent bane]

i made some changed to my previous build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2s9GLc

thoughts?

[grave cipher]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BcWbKq

changed board, GPU, RAM

board has +1 m.2 and higher QVL (should help with future upgrades and storage expansion)
RAM is better XMP and hynix memory chips (kinda only relevant to overclocking, but they're no more expensive and typically have better xmps out of box)
GPU is a 6750XT, better performance than 4060 and more Vram (alt choice is intel B580 if you can grab one thats in stock)

[noble oak]

If you're going last gen intel don't, zen 4 is still better

Get the Ryzen 5 5600x

[lusty hinge]

what the hell

are you trolling

5600x is literally worse than a 12600k in every way

no iGPU, performs worse in games and literally any productivity tasks, is on a worse platform

there is no reason to be buying am4 in 2024

[grave cipher]

a 7600x has more or less the same gaming performance than the 12600k, but the 12600k will beat it in anything that can fully use all 6 P cores or is able to use the 4 E cores on it

and a 5600X will straight lose to both of those chips

it is also worth mentioning that intel does benefit from overclocking greatly along with no HT, but these are impractical to go off of alone, still worth mentioning though.

to top it off you kinda don't want 6 cores anymore, especially since the amount of background stuff running nowadays + anything the user installs

that harms performance pretty bad on lower core count chips, so its either you go 7700X or a 12600K

[pulsar fossil]

More RGB is more better so this is kinda exciting imo 😅
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra16O45wu48

[lusty hinge]

theyre not wireless

[pulsar fossil]

No but the control of them is

It's wireless RGB control, not wireless fans

[lusty hinge]

silly lian li

[pulsar fossil]

Speaking of silly

Have you seen the AM Neon 80 keyboard?

[lusty hinge]

i think so

[pulsar fossil]

3120 holes

389 LEDs

Weighs like 2,5 kg

And costs only $656

[lusty hinge]

yayayayayayay

[pulsar fossil]

https://store.angrymiao.com/products/am-neon-80-king-of-rgb

It's kinda crazy

[lusty hinge]

supoer awesome wtf

[pulsar fossil]

That's an insane price tho

[sage hound]

Just why . I'm not questioning someone taste but why:)))

[pulsar fossil]

🤷

[lusty hinge]

custom keyboards

they get expensive

theres some in the thousands

theyre well known to be awful value but no one buys them cuz theyre good value

[sage hound]

Even if I would have money to don't know what to do with them , I still wouldn't spend them on that thing. 🤷‍♀️😂

Just because of the retro look ? Nah . U can still find old ones on goodwill and transform them if u are that passionate about it

[lusty hinge]

lolno

a cheap goodwill keyboard and this wont compare

theyre meant for enthusiasts anyway no regular consumer is buying them

[tulip granite]

how do i use my f1 f2 keys on my apex pro mini

[grave cipher]

hit the steelseries logo in the bottom right

keyboard will glow orange and then just hit 1 2 3 etc

[sick loom]

Does anyone know how to restore the clip because I accidentally deleted it?

[pulsar fossil]

English only please :)

[modern ferry]

bro can anyone help me in the colors cause i bought my apex pro mini and it doesnt put the full color like when i went in the app i wanted to put the color as shaved ice but it only puts blue not white yellow red and blue and stuff please help

[wicked ermine]

may i laugh ? why even mention Igpu ? i saw you many times with no knowledge at all to give advices to people this is not just harmfull for customers, this will make ther Experience worse, just stop it. There are alot of Reasons to buy AM4 in 2024 called Cheap and Good Cpu's otherwise you can say the same about intel, the 12th gen is so old that it is not worth it to buy ? Stop trolling and give advices and not Personal Fanboyism.

[grave cipher]

Am4 is a dead platform, only cpus on it worth anything are the x3ds and a 12900k beats them. 1700 is also officially "dead" but it's still the best performing intel platform and is incredibly cheap now. Recommending budget am5 is also ehh, 6 cores for 150 - 200 is a bit of a ripoff

Also

12th gen intel is "newer" than all of am4

[lusty hinge]

having an igpu is nice

how do you troubleshoot a possible dead gpu if you have no igpu? ah yes, buy another gpu.

i dont understand what youre trying to get at though. a 5600x still loses to a 12600k no matter how you look at it

theres nothing the 5600x is better at

especially if you put ddr5 on a 12600k

[wicked ermine]

the 5600x is equal to the 12600k but okey try it harder, stop being so stupid like the user bench people. Who care about DDR5 on a 12600k when you have to spend way more money on it then you can buy already a 7600 for the same money and have better performance + better future upgrades

[lusty hinge]

no it isnt

[wicked ermine]

and no Igpu is kinda useless

[lusty hinge]

its equal to a 12400(whatever identifier)

[wicked ermine]

all Ryzen 7000 have it

so sad what you are showing and have just 0 knowledge about hardware

[lusty hinge]

that seems quite silly to say

im trying to show you benchmarks that back up my claims. what are you doing?

the 5600x never wins if you compare it to a 12600k

and ddr5 on a 12600k can be a huge improvement

seeing gains of up to 20%

i dont appreciate you repeatedly calling me stupid whilst providing no sources

[wicked ermine]

you dont know anything this is it

you owned a 5600x or a 12600k bot together and tested it ? no then dont talk

[lusty hinge]

no?

i dont need to own it

there are benchmarks online

what i dont understand is you keep insulting me and making these claims but you're not providing any sources

if im so stupid, why cant i find a source that shows the 5600x better?

can you find one?

[wicked ermine]

dude dont even talk you have no knowledge at all

just stop pretending you have any idea what are you talking about

[lusty hinge]

until you show me a source that a 5600x is better, im done with this conversation.

have a good day.

[wicked ermine]

the 5600x and 12600k are equal in gaming and the 5600x with all the other hardware cost you way less

[lusty hinge]

@grave cipher :3

[wicked ermine]

really bored of people that Fanboyism even when people tell them they are equal in performance and the 5600x cost way less with the ram and mobo

[pulsar fossil]

Disagreeing is fine but tone down the name calling please

Just gonna put this here 😅
https://fixupx.com/piratesoftware/status/1871184709608464849

[lusty hinge]

13th and 14th gen shenanigans were fixed months ago with microcode updates.
new boards such as the Pro RS White will not need to be updated OOB as they only have 1 version (in the pro rs white case) that contains the newest microcode.
already existing, purchased boards will need to be updated manually by the owner - which will NOT fix any CPUs already degraded

if youre buying a brand new 13th/14th gen cpu + board, its kinda recommended to aim for flashback, which asrock fails to provide on any 700 chipset (shame, because theyre usually praised for good cheap boards). although it should be no issue to just turn it on and update before doing anything.

intel has been honouring RMAs and has extended the deadline several times

although choosing between either Intel or AMD isnt something that makes sense and you should just be choosing the thing that fits your situation best.

[pulsar fossil]

I don't see myself using Intel for my next upgrade

[lusty hinge]

probably not considering the newest 200k series is a "let down" for gaming (its not supposed to be a competitor for gaming😝) and iirc you mentioned buying a top end 50 series which leads me to assume 4K gameplay meaning essentially any cpu will suffice

you could get a 7600 and compare to a 9800x3d and have identical performance at 4K

[pulsar fossil]

1440p not 4k

[lusty hinge]

nice

[pulsar fossil]

It seems to me like the perfect sweet spot of quality and performance

[wicked ermine]

The Thing IS of the price of the 12600k Setup you can get an5700x3d with ITS Platform and RAM and you will have way more Out of IT

And the User wanted a Budget build and Not a expensive low end setup

[lusty hinge]

buying right into a 5700x3d doesnt make too much sense unless youre exclusively playing games such as EFT or The Finals which benefit a lot from the X3D cpus

[pulsar fossil]

If I upgrade any time soon it'll probably be a R7 9800X3D

[lusty hinge]

you put yourself right into a road block with a new 5700x3d

literally any upgrade has to replace everything

[wicked ermine]

I am Thunking to get a 9800x3d too but somehow my 7800x3d still doing a great Job

[lusty hinge]

i wouldnt upgrade to a 9800x3d from a 7800x3d

[pulsar fossil]

I'm on an i9-9900k currently

[lusty hinge]

nice one

[wicked ermine]

But i still can Just Put an9800x3d in tocmy system and even pcie 5.0 IS supported by the ryzen 7000 build for Future cards

[lusty hinge]

yeah

[wicked ermine]

Uf yea then basicly Most modern CPUs will BE a hugenupgrade

[lusty hinge]

pcie 5 is cool but if i was to make assumptions based on current information, its not going to be any benefit for next gen gpus.

[pulsar fossil]

For sure

[wicked ermine]

I noticed that the 7800x3d was such a Performance Upgrade for gaming and the Power consumenis Just awesome in Most Games 20-40 Watts

[lusty hinge]

20 watts is quite unbelievable

50-70? sure

20? no, i dont believe that.

i own a 7800x3d myself and i have never seen that. do you have any sources for that?

[wicked ermine]

Keeping my hopes Up for ryzen 10.000 series and Radeon 10.000 series or RTX 6000 series because right now i have a Monster of system for 1440p

[lusty hinge]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-scaling/
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-scaling/28.html

even pcie 2 makes little difference on a 4090. i dont imagine pcie gen 5 will affect next gen gpus but who knows

[lusty hinge]

if we follow current naming schemes the 10000 series wont be relevant to gamers and will continue to be monolithic apus designed just for architectural improvements

the same way 8000 series isnt relevant to gamers but brought us phoenix architecture

[wicked ermine]

I SAW the final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Specs and they are huge

[lusty hinge]

huh?

[wicked ermine]

For 4k and 60 FPS you will need a rx7900xt or a rtx 4080 and this IS huge because i want to Play in 1440p and high frames, i am way over the Specs but still this IS demanding and If i Take a look at Indiana Jones Specs then the next upcoming Games will BE very demanding

[lusty hinge]

ohh

is this taking any upscaling into account or is this assuming native at max settings?

[lusty hinge]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/black-myth-wukong-fps-performance-benchmark/5.html

we've been heading this way for a while

i mean, its expected. newer games will target the top hardware.

the new Indiana Jones game for example requires hardware ray tracing.

which doesnt explicitly say its targetting top hardware but is an example of it limiting old hardware

[grave cipher]

claiming others bias while being bias yourself is kinda ironic

[wicked ermine]

Atleast i Had all this CPUs and i know IT better

[lusty hinge]

do you have benchmarks

ive not seen you provide anything that disproves what ive said

[grave cipher]

If your 12600k lost to a 5600x, then you definitely messed something up

[lusty hinge]

1x4gb ddr4 2133MT/s 12600kf compared to 2x16gb ddr4 OC 4000MT/s 5600x

[wicked ermine]

Horrible If people dont know IT better

[lusty hinge]

you still arent providing any benchmarks

nothing youve said is of relevance if theres no benchmarks to show it

every single benchmark will put the 12600k on top, because it is

[grave cipher]

its either that or hes intentionally being incorrect

[wicked ermine]

Yes a miracle how a CPU with less cores and less MHz loses to a CPU with e cores with p cores

[lusty hinge]

the advertised clocks dont matter

[lusty hinge]

yeah. probably this.

[wicked ermine]

Wait IT IS the architecture that really Matters Not How many cores or MHz you have i forgot

[lusty hinge]

why do you keep saying IT

studying IT in school doesnt mean you get to disprove everything with no sources to show it

[wicked ermine]

Ironic Mode Off and now dont Talk so much bs i Tell you they 5600x and the 12600k are equal in gaming in some Games the 5600x dominantes in Others the 12600k and in alot of Games they are equal

[lusty hinge]

theyre not equal

theyre not even close

the 5600/x is closer to a 12400f/k (whatever identifier)

[wicked ermine]

And again i Tell you If you did Not read

[lusty hinge]

im reading what youre saying

[wicked ermine]

For the price of a Setup with a 12600k you can get a x3d CPU

[lusty hinge]

ive provided several benchmarks that back up what im saying

you on the otherhand are not

[wicked ermine]

That will Delivery better Performance Overall in gaming

Both are dead end platforms

[lusty hinge]

as ive said before, theres no reason to buy into AM4 with a 5700X3D unless youre playing games such as EFT or The Finals

[wicked ermine]

So what Matters IS the price

[lusty hinge]

the 5700X3D performs similar to the 12600K

[lusty hinge]

price was never in discussion. we were speaking performance.

moving the goal post wont help your claims

[wicked ermine]

5600x IS 95€ 12600k IS 185€

Let allone the Motherboard or the ddr4 vs ddr5 RAM

[nocturne pawn]

Hello, my name is Ksawery, I'm 13 years old and I come from Poland. I came with an unusual problem, because my cursor is stuck and it makes it very difficult for me to play my favorite game, fortnite. I have had this mouse for 3 months. I don't know, maybe it's the drivers but I don't know where to download them

[lusty hinge]

youre getting side tracked

[nocturne pawn]

sorry not there

[lusty hinge]

did ya try unplugging it and plugging it back in? 😉

[wicked ermine]

You are blocked dont even try IT

[lusty hinge]

lol

i apologise for providing sources to back up my claims

[nocturne pawn]

i do it but it doesn't work..

[lusty hinge]

do you have a second device to test it on

[nocturne pawn]

no

[lusty hinge]

do you have a second mouse to test with

[nocturne pawn]

yes but i dont know where it is

but i have the same problem

with my old mouse

i dont know what is a problem with this mouse

i have rival 3

[lusty hinge]

you have the same problem with a different mouse?

[nocturne pawn]

and i have had this mouse for three months

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[lusty hinge]

probably not an issue with the mouse then

seems an issue with your computer

[nocturne pawn]

oh my god

[lusty hinge]

as in, your OS

[nocturne pawn]

what is OS?

[lusty hinge]

operating system

[nocturne pawn]

OKEY

[lusty hinge]

laziest (but easiest) fix would be to just reinstall windows using a usb

if the issue persists then theres an issue elsewhere

[nocturne pawn]

where i must check some problem on my computer?

[lusty hinge]

i honestly have no idea where you would begin troubleshooting this outside of just reinstalling windows

[gusty galleon]

What are the odds that the cpu cooler for my old am3+ socket will fit an am4 cpu

[rose bough]

Question out of curiosity. If you need to flash a BIOS update and your motherboard doesn't have a specific USB port or a BIOS flash button like some do, how would you do it?

[astral torrent]

What gpu do I get?
I have a 590 gme

[grave cipher]

if you can get it to bios then it doesn't need to be a specific USB port. If you are using the flash button then the specific USB port is marked. If either of those options are not available to you, you will need a CPU that is supported by the motherboard, the easiest way to find a compatible cpu is to find out what generation of CPU the motherboard released with.

[rose bough]

I know how to do it overall, I was asking how if there is no flash button and there isn't a specific marked port.

[grave cipher]

I do state every way to flash a bios above ^

not just one

[rose bough]

I was asking about if there wasn't a button specifically

Two questions, though

One related, one not

The related one first

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145521?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FmhWJ7P%2Fgigabyte-x870-eagle-wifi7-atx-am5-motherboard-x870-eagle-wifi7&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-5CDRmo4HZ69zszB3dJr6XA

Does that MOBO have a flash button?

(That's gonna be the one I upgrade to when I build my AM5 rig.)

And the unrelated question

3 x M.2 Socket 3 connectors

That from the motherboard means 3 NVMe slots right?

[rose bough]

So yes?

Never looked at the rear IO of an AMD board since my current one is Intel.

[grave cipher]

yes, the actual wiring of them is going to be most likely:
1x M.2 wired directly to the CPU and is PCIE 5.0
2x M.2 wired to the Motherboard chipset that will be PCIE 4.0

[spice palm]

Yo can someone help me build a setup? I need a good monitor off amazon

Like 200+ hz

[rose bough]

My point was it can use up to three though, correct?

[grave cipher]

yea

[wicked ermine]

you mean Nvidia GTX 590 pr AMD Rx590 ?

[lusty hinge]

hz isnt how you determine how good a monitor is

there are 200hz monitors slower than 100hz monitors

the only things that matter about monitors are things that the manufacturer doesnt tell you

[lusty hinge]

whats the best you can afford? lol

[spice palm]

Which is?

Can you reccomend me some good monitor reccomendations

[lusty hinge]

panel

[spice palm]

I just need 1 monitor for my setup

[spice palm]

Oh

Do u havve any reccomendations?

[lusty hinge]

https://drake.fyi/monitors

think this covers 1080p

[spice palm]

I found a moniutor off amazon can i send it here and u tell me if its good and if i should get it or not?

Its 27 inch 1980p 240hz 1 ms

126% sRGB, HDMI and displayport inpuits

Fast VA Panel

Thats the description

@lusty hinge

[lusty hinge]

that doesnt tell me what monitor

but it sucks

27 inch 1080p? 240hz VA?

look for any of these

24" 1080p144+ options:
AOC: 24G2SP, 24G2U/BK, 24G4X
Acer: XF240Y M3, XF243Y, XV240Y, VG242YP, VG240YS, RX241Y
Asus: VP249QGR, VG249Q1R, VG249Q, VG249Q1A
MSI: G2412F, G244F, G255F, MAG256F
LG: 24GN600, 24GN650, 24GN60R
iiyama: GB2470HSU-B1/G2470HSU-B1
BenQ: EX2510 (if under 200usd), EX240
Gigabyte: G24F, G24F 2
HP: X24i/X24ih (if under $200usd), OMEN 24

[spice palm]

Here

[lusty hinge]

no

[rose bough]

I'm pretty sure 1980p isn't a thing...

1920x1080 is 1080p

and then it goes up to 1440

and then to 4k, which is 2160p

[grave cipher]

you can definitely make a monitor that does 1980P or use a resolution that would be 1980P

but that is probably a spelling error

[rose bough]

how

[grave cipher]

I don't know what res or aspect ratio you would need exactly, but you can very well make one on a 4K panel

It doesn't need to be industry standard like 1080/1440/2160 to exist

I doubt you'll find a 1980P monitor most likely because of compatibility issues but you can definitely create that Res through nvidia control panel

like the consoles for example will Run a display Res of 2160P but run a render Res of 1800P (depending on title/quality settings)

[spice palm]

I meant 1080p sorry

[idle sphinx]

Is a asus tuf 165 hz monitor curved good?

[lusty hinge]

probably not

doesnt really say what monitor it is though

https://drake.fyi/monitors

[sly iris]

does anyone know if you can swap the fans on the lian li galahad II Trinity SL-Inf 360 into Lian Li UNI FAN TL120mm?

[opaque moon]

can I use 3 pin airgoo strimmer rgb cable on 4 pin corsair rgb hub

[pulsar fossil]

Be nice to others :)

[opaque moon]

thanks for the help! got the 7700xt

[lusty hinge]

yes but why would you do this

[lusty hinge]

looks awesome

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QnxxFT/thermalright-frozen-infinity-360-argb-689-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-infinity-360-black

[lilac furnace]

what is a good cpu to use for a 4060 ti

[digital kernel]

dont get a 4060 ti 😂

[grave cipher]

depends on use case, Esports titles is just whatever CPU you can buy, running triple A games that feature stuff like RT then a lower end cpu will be fine (12400/7600/13400/7700) can go lower end than that, but usually not worth it

also if you do not already have the Card and intend on buying it later, do not. It is a very bad card for the pricing, you'd be better off finding other cards (6750XT/RTX 3060/7700XT/B580)

[lilac furnace]

Thank youz

[faint sorrel]

not good pc

[grave cipher]

whats wrong with it?

[faint sorrel]

cable Management

[lusty hinge]

thats... not a determining factor in whether its a good or bad pc

thats just you stating you personally think it looks bad

[covert quarry]

I’d say an i5-12400f or an i7-12700f

[high trellis]

i just go the aerox 3 wireless and i am confused on how i charge it?

[pulsar fossil]

Charge it with USB-C?

Here's the manual https://downloads.steelseriescdn.com/guides/Aerox_3_WL_PIG_MP-2.pdf

[high trellis]

yeah i found it

[pulsar fossil]

Great

[opaque moon]

I'm getting ztrimmers soon

strimmers

I saw a reddit post saying to put 2 separate 8 pins instead of a single

so it looks a bit messy now but I'll fix it up later

does using the single 6 + 2 x2 pcie cable actually compromise anything like power delivery

[faint sorrel]

Well, making the cables zsm is also enough with a clamp

[pulsar fossil]

Be nice to others or you will receive a timeout, thanks

[leaden cedar]

whats the best gpu i can get with a raadeon 2600

[grave cipher]

do you mean a Ryzen 2600? Radeon is the GPU part of amd

[leaden cedar]

yea

sry im kinda new to thiis stuff

[grave cipher]

well what is your current GPU?

[leaden cedar]

raaadeon 580 or sum liike that

[opaque moon]

6500xt would be low bottleneck but it's barely better than 580

I'd upgrade the cpu first but I guess it depends on what tasks you're running and what dimensions you want to run them on

[leaden cedar]

im just trying to run fortnight lol higher then140 fps, its fine when im not doing anythiiing but then i get random fps drop when i fight and thats on llower settings

[lusty hinge]

how did you come to this conclusion

6500xt is hardly worthwhile

incredibly mediocre gpu

[lusty hinge]

as expected, a 4090.

the only limiting factor on gpu choice is your PSU and your case compatibility

[lusty hinge]

are you at 1080p? i imagine performance mode - all low?

might be worthwhile grabbing a Ryzen 5 5600 and an RX 6600 or something of the sorts

considering you already have an AM4 board

[leaden cedar]

ii can only get one rn should i go for a cpu gpu

i dont thiink my case would be a problem i got a bunch oof roooom

psu might be a problem tho

im just tired of having like 120 fps then randomly 20-40 for a half sec then back to normal, i want my games to run smooth

[opaque moon]

i used it for a while

on 1080p its pretty good if you're not looking for quality

i used it on 1440p with a ryzen 5 3600 and got decent frames on low settings

if he's playing cpu based games then a 6500xt wouldnt be that much of a delima but yea a 6600 would be more worth it

[lusty hinge]

well

no

because a 6500xt and a 580 are damn near very similar

[opaque moon]

yes

[lusty hinge]

it is an incredibly mediocre upgrade

its just a waste of money

[opaque moon]

thats why i said he should upgrade the cpu first

you're right

wouldnt it make more sense to upgrade the cpu to further narrow down a gpu option later down the line??

[lusty hinge]

just upgrade both

if it has to be 1 at a time

grab a r5 5600

[opaque moon]

double u conclusion

does anybody know a good dual chamber case with top 360mm compatibility, atx

[lusty hinge]

what country

what colour

[opaque moon]

america

white

[grave cipher]

so, some things you should check:

Task manager > Performance Tab
with Fortnite open (preferably in a match), monitor to see if your GPU is at 90 - 100% usage. If Yes, then you need a beefer GPU. If no then you need a better CPU.

My system is currently CPU bottlenecked on Rust, so to get more frames I'd need a better CPU

You should also click on the Memory Tab and check to see if you have 2 sticks of memory or 1 stick of memory. Ideally it looks like this

[unreal cloak]

will this be able to run stuff decently well

[kindred trout]

yeah

[leaden cedar]

yo so if iim not running games in super high quaity and just want it tooo be smoother a better cpu woooould do the trick right

[grave cipher]

dont get the 8500G, it has the Zen4c cores which are much slower. An 8400F would be the better option

[lusty hinge]

theres also 2x8 D5

[grave cipher]

THERE IS!!!

I mentally blocked it out (@unreal cloak dont get 2x8)

[west cipher]

it logged me out of steelseries yall know how to fix it

[lusty hinge]

log back in

[main zenith]

how build pc

im playing on an unbuiilt pc

[opaque moon]

watch the ltt pov video

[opaque moon]

this one is an intel guide though

[grave cipher]

Amd should be the same just that the back plate is pre installed

Some cheaper older coolers may actually use the stock mounting outright, but they're plug and play basically

[opaque moon]

yea

watching an intel build makes me realize how much I don't like am4

I pulled out my old air cooler to replace it with an aio the other day and the cpu came with the heatsink

got lucky none of the pins bent

[lusty hinge]

lol yeah that happens to a lot of people on am4

recommended to run the pc for a bit before removing it

[opaque moon]

I wonder how many people have ruined their cpu just because of the pins

[opaque moon]

will do this next time

my friend also said to twist but it was so attached

[lusty hinge]

once you pull it out youre kinda just hoping you dont break the pins

[opaque moon]

with the lever down too?!

does that mean the retention thing is broken

on the actual socket

[lusty hinge]

errr i wouldnt imagine so

ive never bothered to ask anyone after

[opaque moon]

when I pulled it out I was under the impression the entire lever mechanism broke

because it wasn't clicking anymore

[lusty hinge]

thats weird. maybe it is

i have no idea

[opaque moon]

yea it's a prime b450-M-A

probably on its way out

it's around 5 - 6 years old I believe

[lusty hinge]

wowzers

its almost time to say goodbye

[opaque moon]

gonna buy a asus b550A pro in January

for the white build

[grave cipher]

nah ive done this and you dont break the mechanism

i dunno the details of how it functions but that seems to be intended, probably so you dont rip the pins off the cpu

[nocturne pawn]

HI

[opaque moon]

can somebody help me with my strimmer cable

it's a 3 pin and i plugged it into here and it didn't even turn on

and I can't use the argb controller it came with because my motherboard doesn't have a 5v 3 pin argb header

[grave cipher]

Check the controller

That is the correct installation so either the strip is damaged or the controller is

Also cosair headers are designed to only be compatible with corsair products

[opaque moon]

it says icue on the box

there's also 2 hubs

the one I showed has a USB into motherboard with only 2x 3 pin headers

and then there's a bigger one for the fans

but the big one is 4 pin

this is the one with the 3 pins

corsair gotta make everything so difficult 💔💔

[grave cipher]

Yea you just plug it into that and that's it

[opaque moon]

there's probably a manual setup

in icue

[opaque moon]

I'll try it before I do school tomorrow

[grave cipher]

unless they changed the controller behaviour which I dont think they have? it should just kick up with the system

then again the controllers also straight suck

[void marten]

guys what is better RTX 4070 super 12 gb Ryzen 9 7950X3D 32GB DDR5 5600 or GeForce 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB Intel I7-14700F 32GB am

[lusty hinge]

are these prebuilts

[void marten]

which oone is better 1 or 2

[lusty hinge]

youre missing half of the computer, which is why im asking if they're prebuilts

[weary coral]

I’d personally go with the RYZEN 9 7950X3D option of the two.

Great CPU, RAM is close enough to 6000MHz that you could probably get it there which would like up with a 2000MHz clock for your infinity fabric

[void marten]

GAMDIAS 750W 80 PLUS MSI PRO B650M-P DDR5 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D : GAMDIAS 240 ARGB : 32GB DDR5 5600 ן : SSD 1TB M.2 NVME ך: GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER 12G this is

[lusty hinge]

yeah, thought so. awful psu.

[weary coral]

But in general I would recommend you go for a Ryzen 7 rather than a 9 if you’re only gaming, and put more dollars into the GPU.

[lusty hinge]

the ryzen 3,5,7,9 dont matter

theyre just arbitrary naming schemes

[weary coral]

You clearly don’t understand what I’m saying

[lusty hinge]

@void marten what country are you in? whats your budget?

whats the computer for?

[lusty hinge]

i do. youre suggesting a cheaper/weaker cpu for a stronger gpu

[void marten]

1. Motherboard - ASRock PG B760M Lightning WiFi DDR5
   Processor - Intel I7-14700F
   CPU Air Cooler - Thermalright Frozen Infinity 360 BLACK
   Graphics card - PNY GeForce 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB GDDR6X VERTO OC Triple Fan HDMI 3xDP
   RAM - Patriot Viper Venom RGB DDR5-6000 32GB 2×16 C30
   Internal Storage - Kingston NV3 1TB NVME GEN 4.0 M.2 2280 6000/4000Mb/s
   Power Supply - ANTEC ATOM G850 120MM Silent Fan Semi-Modular 80Plus Gol or 2.Power supply: GAMDIAS 750W 80 PLUS
   Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P DDR5
   Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
   Liquid cooling system: GAMDIAS 240 ARGB
   Memory: 32GB DDR5 5600
   Storage: 1TB M.2 NVME SSD
   Graphics card: GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB
   Sound card: 7.1 channels built into the motherboard
   Network card: RJ45 network card speed 10/100/100

[weary coral]

I’m suggesting a CPU with less threads that will perform similarly in only gaming scenarios to put more dollars into a GPU that will have a much more significant performance impact

The idea that the numbers don’t matter is ridiculous

[lusty hinge]

why are both of them using awful psus

[void marten]

1. Motherboard - ASRock PG B760M Lightning WiFi DDR5
   Processor - Intel I7-14700F
   CPU Air Cooler - Thermalright Frozen Infinity 360 BLACK
   Graphics card - PNY GeForce 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB GDDR6X VERTO OC Triple Fan HDMI 3xDP
   RAM - Patriot Viper Venom RGB DDR5-6000 32GB 2×16 C30
   Internal Storage - Kingston NV3 1TB NVME GEN 4.0 M.2 2280 6000/4000Mb/s
   Power Supply - ANTEC ATOM G850 120MM Silent Fan Semi-Modular 80Plus Gol

[lusty hinge]

you just sent this

[void marten]

2.Power supply: GAMDIAS 750W 80 PLUS
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P DDR5
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
Liquid cooling system: GAMDIAS 240 ARGB
Memory: 32GB DDR5 5600
Storage: 1TB M.2 NVME SSD
Graphics card: GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB
Sound card: 7.1 channels built into the motherboard
Network card: RJ45 network card speed 10/100/1000

[lusty hinge]

and this

[void marten]

which on

for fortnite

[lusty hinge]

neither if possible

[void marten]

why

[lusty hinge]

because they both have awful psus and neither make any sense.

but you wont tell me your budget or country, or how much they cost

[void marten]

i dont really care about price just what is better'

[lusty hinge]

what country? how much are they? can you buy different prebuilts?

both of them are using bad psus

[void marten]

wait

[void marten]

this 2209.46$

[lusty hinge]

im not interested in the currency conversion

because if that was truly USD at $2200 it would be a horrendous buy

can you please answer my questions
#💻-building-a-pc message
#💻-building-a-pc message
#💻-building-a-pc message

[void marten]

ok so i will sent you a text to remember you and when i find something better i will tell you

[lusty hinge]

why not answer the questions so that i can help?

[opaque moon]

real bro

like it literally wont even turn on the LED's

[grave cipher]

Ryzen 5/7/9 is the same as intel I5/7/9. They're both meaningless on their own and requires so much context that you'd do better to just say a specific cpu.

[weary coral]

They are not meaningless and it was clear what I was suggesting

[grave cipher]

Not really

There are 4 "ryzen 7s"

All with marginally different performance

And there are 6 "ryzen 9s"

Just on am5 currently

Actually if we count the apus then that's an even higher amount

[weary coral]

If you think that my suggestion was to get a significantly lower performing Ryzen 7 and not a comparable model then that's an argument in bad faith at best

I'm not partake in arguing for the sake of arguing. My response to the original question and suggestion still stands.

[grave cipher]

Yea and what is a comparable model

There are 6 "ryzen 7s" if we include the apus

[weary coral]

7800X3D...

obviously

[grave cipher]

Like someone who doesn't understand hardware is going to be lost at that

Could just say that

Instead of broadly stroking half of am5s lineup

[weary coral]

But it's not relevant; the point is that in most cases games won't significantly benefit from the increased cores/threads of a 9 series, so moving to a comparable 7 series and reallocating the extra money to the GPU is the move for gaming specifically

That advice is applicable to more than just the 7950X3D prebuilt listed above.

You could also shell out slightly more for the 9800X3D, still less than the 7950X3D and unironically get more performance.

I gave a determination on the question at hand, and then I offered some advice that is applicable to the scenario but general enough to be sound advice for other system configurations.

Just ease up

[grave cipher]

you're so trapped in your own fallacy that you don't even see the obvious error with listing potentially 6 cpus to someone who doesn't understand computer hardware

[weary coral]

I answered the question he asked already and then offered some additional advice

I don’t know how else to explain it; I am sorry that you don’t understand my messaging.

It’s good advice for someone to do a little research before they shell out thousands of dollars on something.

We just have differing perspectives which is ok.

[lusty hinge]

why would you buy an outdated, unproduced and widely unavailable/overpriced cpu?

especially considering its a 4070 ti super

youre gonna be playing 1440p at lowest, preferably 4K.

[lusty hinge]

you should have seen the friendly discussion we had on keyboards, and why its not fair to compare a bad keyboard to the top end keyboards.. even though theyre the same price

[weary coral]

the friendly conversation on the Steelseries discord where you asserted that Steelseries keyboards are bad and spam advertised competing products?

[lusty hinge]

yeah basically

[weary coral]

We have different definitions of friendly conversations I guess

[lusty hinge]

that one yeah

i liked that one

mmm, the moderator that did absolutely nothing the whole time, lovely.

besides

the main point is the fact that both prebuilts suck and neither should be bought if possible

[weary coral]

I spend most of my time on here helping people with product issues; you spend most of your time arguing.

I think that's telling enough; ciao for now.

[lusty hinge]

yeah

[grave cipher]

Just because you're in a brand's discord server doesn't mean you have to recommend that brand exclusively. If a competitor is better then that's a skill issue

[lusty hinge]

(you never messaged me or this channel)

[lusty hinge]

yes i do!! the mod that saw me explain why the keyboard is completely awful and came after me exclusively told me not to!! but the people insulting me, spamming and actively breaking several rules here werent spoken to once!!

;P

personally i think its abysmal to defend a keyboard that is significantly worse in more ways than 1 thats priced the same as the top end keyboards

but thats just me

imagine paying several hundred dollars for overpriced plastic when you can get better performing aluminium for cheaper

crazy'

rip

[grave cipher]

That mod is unreal lol

It should be obvious that unbiased people are gonna recommend the best keyboard and that keyboard isn't a steelseries one

[lusty hinge]

this guy comes around occassionally and just blind denies everything with no sources on why steelseries is better

its funny

[grave cipher]

Brand loyalty is an interesting concept

Especially when it's blind loyalty

[lusty hinge]

i just dont understand how you can be shown why its worse and then proceed to ignore it and say nah

[grave cipher]

The same why that the guy from before believes using the ryzen X moniker is a valid way to recommend cpus

Closed mindedness is key 🔑

[lusty hinge]

im gonna turn my brain off

[grave cipher]

Everyone else has may as well join in at this point

[pulsar fossil]

Wait, you have one of those? Weird flex but okay

[lusty hinge]

not anymore

[pulsar fossil]

Maybe I'll be able to save up for one some day

[lusty hinge]

im playing fortnite

my brains gone

[pulsar fossil]

Kek

My EGS says I have 1600+ hours in Fortnite 😂

Spoiler alert: I haven't actually played it for those hours 😂

[lusty hinge]

fortni

[pulsar fossil]

But have you tried ballistic?

[lusty hinge]

i tried a bit of it

thought it sucked

its removed rn

[opaque moon]

so the strimmers are working, I move the 3 pin into the first port but now the fans lights aren't even turning on

and the strimmer isn't even fully lit up either

[lusty hinge]

an entire pc for 150?

mini pc from amazon

unless youre getting some insane deals theres nothing at 150

even going used you get like nothing

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1366800/Crosshair_X/

no

theyre like 20 years old or something

no

[opaque moon]

I cheaped out on a acer nitro 5 in 2021 and regretted it

[lusty hinge]

you could probably find a used ps4/xbox one for 150 or loewr yeah

[opaque moon]

you don't really wanna spend under 800 because there's a risk with stuff like faulty psu

unless it's pre-built

acer nitro 5 is a laptop

I think the cheapest you'll get is a skytech prebuilt off of amazon

unless somebody else here knows a method

[lusty hinge]

amazon prebuilts are bad

[opaque moon]

sky tech isn't horrible

my friend bought one

[lusty hinge]

ive literally never seen a worthwhile prebuilt on amazon

mini pc

or just save up

[opaque moon]

you won't be running gta or fivem on anything less than $700

[lusty hinge]

you can definitely run those on $500 or even less if you go used

[opaque moon]

yea

[lusty hinge]

theyre decade old games designed to run at no more than 60fps

[opaque moon]

I wouldn't go with a used psu though 💔💔

[lusty hinge]

ew no

[opaque moon]

you probably should do some research before building a fully used setup

power supply unit

takes power from wall and siphons it throughout the computer

yes they are...but you need different cables in the pc

wall -> power supply -> PSU cables like pcie and motherboard

it depends on what parts you buy

gpu if you're playing games

you NEVER want to cheap out on a psu though

especially if it's from some random brand

cheap capacitors = 💥💥

cheaper = less reliable.

because if you buy a cheap power unit then it will ruin the entire computer

I'd say $600 if you're going used

but you need to do some research on the parts and how they work

[lusty hinge]

theres a lot more about a psu than just capacitors

[opaque moon]

yea

a power supply

[lusty hinge]

all of this is important, along with specific protections such as OCP and OPP

no

[opaque moon]

that is the unit that siphons power throughout a hypothetical computer

[lusty hinge]

the power supply

[opaque moon]

bro..

[lusty hinge]

converts your walls "dirty" ac to dc

then feeds that dc to your components

[opaque moon]

think of it as a giant power converter

[opaque moon]

looking at the inside of a psu makes me feel uneasy knowing if one thing goes wrong it's over

maybe a ups isn't a bad idea

essentially

[lusty hinge]

a ups wouldnt do anything if its the psu that fails

[opaque moon]

except it's inside your computer

[opaque moon]

well if anything happens on the wall side

[lusty hinge]

that makes more sense

[opaque moon]

youre right though, but I'm sure most people are using a surge protector or ups

@stone hearth this is what a psu looks like

that's the one i bought a few months ago

[lusty hinge]

has your sticker fallen off yet

[opaque moon]

HOW?!!

that's is actually crazy bro 😭😭

[lusty hinge]

corsair puts a sticker near the fan on the inside of the psu on all their recent models

[opaque moon]

yea the sticker is GONE

corsair is good for all. budget, midrange and top tier

not really

750 is midrange

[lusty hinge]

corsair is just a brand and has produced several explosive psus

they still currently sell really bad psus

[opaque moon]

I think I paid 120 for it

[lusty hinge]

nice

[opaque moon]

why would I refund a perfectly good working psu

[lusty hinge]

so can every psu ever

[opaque moon]

what?!

[lusty hinge]

whats so surprising

the guys been trolling for the past like 10 minutes

[opaque moon]

yea

[lusty hinge]

anyway prevail nebula v2 suck

tactile supremacy

[opaque moon]

first you need to research what the parts do

then you need to know what parts YOU need for your specific tasks

I'm probably about to close discord 😭😭

does anybody here got a good guide video on what every pc part does for @stone hearth

[lusty hinge]

linear switch

[opaque moon]

WILL be watching this later 🗣💯‼️🔥

amazing setup

built in strimmers ❤️❤️

@stone hearth watch this it'll probably help

it's just a guide video

you don't gotta buy the exact parts

most pc builds should be the same with a few differences like chipset and motherboard

unless you want to... open loop

just look it up bro

[lusty hinge]

custom loops are near enough the same thing par from gpu deshroud - assuming soft tubing

[opaque moon]

water pipes

I know it doesn't change much but I will always prefer hard tubing

looks way better seeing those sharp angles

[rose bough]

Question. Is there any cosmetic difference between these fans?

They're the same D30-120 from Phanteks, one is just reversed.

(The non-reversed one has been out of stock for a while and I'd rather not have to spend $90 for one fan.)

[grave cipher]

other than the blades being backwards no

[opaque moon]

does anybody know a good wifi chip with somewhat low profile form factor? my current gigabyte one doesnt fit my motherboard with the gpu

[lusty hinge]

e-key?

or aic

either way its just gonna be the cheapest ax210 you can find. the difference being what form factor theyrein lol

[opaque moon]

would i be able to cover it with the ssd heatsink

[lusty hinge]

why do you need to

err

check where your e-key slot is

[gritty dome]

yo

what do u think

about this combo? 4060 x 5800x3d?

[grave cipher]

3060 better

But it's game dependent mainly

[lusty hinge]

5800x3d is a weird choice if youre not already on AM4 and dont already own it

[gritty dome]

i’m building a completely new pc

[lusty hinge]

i wouldnt recommend the 5800x3d then

probably not the 4060 either

could probably get am5 / ddr5 lga1700 for the price of a 5800x3d + board&ram

[opaque moon]

is there a white AM4 motherboard with wifi

ATX

[opaque moon]

like i cannot find a single decent am4 motherboard with wifi in stock

[next hare]

Just wondering if the 3060 12gb is good I ain't playing anything on high graphics and im only tryna get at least 60 fps and im on 1080 none of that 4k or 2k highest game i play is probably cyberpunk

[sterile hawk]

is my pc good?

AMD Ryzen 5 5600G processor with Radeon Graphics 3.90 GHz Installed RAM 16.0 GB (available: 13.9 GB System type 64-bit operating system, x64 processor Pen and touch devices No pen and touch input support for this screen recorder

[lusty hinge]

do you own it

[lusty hinge]

do you own it?
if yes, does it do what you want it to do?

[sterile hawk]

yeah

[lusty hinge]

it does what you want it to do? there you go then

[sterile hawk]

play games and the occasionally docs

thanks

[next hare]

No that’s why I’m asking

[lusty hinge]

depends on its price

it probably isnt gonna be a good deal if youre buying it new from amazon or something because it hasnt been produced in a while

[next hare]

289$

[lusty hinge]

would rather pay a little bit extra for a 6750xt, wait for b580 restock or see if you can grab a 3070 used

[next hare]

I’ll check them out

[lusty hinge]

20% being par with transistor density

3 encoders + 2 decoders

idk

supposedly DLSS4 is 4x framegen but idkkkmk

reviewwwws

[grave cipher]

3070 has Vram skill issue, owned one myself at 1080P and it struggles running stuff on max settings (which it is pretty capable of) because of Vram

[north geyser]

Guys??? I have a question.

I just want to built my first PC my full money is 4000 PLN so in dollars or euros it will be like a 1000$ I think. I only playing Minecraft/valorant and I need too some space for other games from probably steam or something to work. What do you guys think what I can just make with this?

[solar bison]

could make a pretty decent pc

mine cost $1500

and its a 4070 paired with a ryzen 9

[north geyser]

Woah

I know that I just want some Ryzen inside cuz Intel CPU is so bad and have so many issues

[solar bison]

i feel u brodie

[agile turtle]

is a 4070 ti super good with a intel i9 14k

also im getting a 850 mw pcu. i think thats enough but can someone just confirm ?

[lusty hinge]

depends on the psu

[agile turtle]

oh wait never mind just checked i got a 1000

[lusty hinge]

what one

[grave cipher]

Ryzen arguably have more issues than intel IME

both ultimately have issues, so a bias based on that alone is stupid. Just go with whatever is cheaper for more performance at the time and you'll always end up in a good spot

[lusty hinge]

how do i stop my 9800x3d from blowing up

[north geyser]

But Intel i9 is more Unstable than AMD

[lusty hinge]

why is it

what i9

what amd cpu

define unstable

[north geyser]

Intel i9 is so much unstable than For example AMD 7

[lusty hinge]

but which i9? which amd cpu? what exactly does "unstable" mean here?

[grave cipher]

I9 describes (If I only count main SKU's) 11 different cpus. AMD 7 will be a similar number. need to define what models specifically

[lusty hinge]

on second thought intel has overheating issues and power draw issues and overpricing issues and much much more...

i love bapo

[opaque moon]

is this good or should i go for a different one

is there a white one

[lusty hinge]

theres probably a white one

what motherboard do you have

[shell mortar]

black looks nicer tbh

[lusty hinge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/wireless-network-card/#V=9000,8000&c0=di_m2,di_m2.pcie,di_pcie.x1

if you have an e-key on your motherboard you can grab any one of these

[opaque moon]

asus prime b450M-A, but i'm buying a b550-A gaming later this month

probably around the 20th

[lusty hinge]

b550-a gaming? the rog strix one?

[opaque moon]

yes

the white one

[lusty hinge]

i cant see an e-key anywhere and i dont see it mention one

youd specifically need a pcie aic

[opaque moon]

yea

i dont want to get a wifi card but there's no white am4 boards i can find

with wifi

[lusty hinge]

any one of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/wireless-network-card/#V=9000,8000&c0=di_pcie.x1

or you can use ethernet

[lusty hinge]

i actually dont think any currently exist

as in, any are available to buy

[opaque moon]

yea this one looks amazing but damn that price

345 for am4 is wild

[lusty hinge]

345 gets you am5 lol

[shell mortar]

thats just what building a pc is like

[lusty hinge]

no it isnt

[shell mortar]

so expensive

[lusty hinge]

oh

then yea

you can get some expensive computers

[shell mortar]

i prolly jumped in at a wrong time lol

[opaque moon]

there's b550 with wifi for cheaper its probably just because of stock

[shell mortar]

yeah propably

[lusty hinge]

no i just didnt let you finish 😛😛

[opaque moon]

or the brand

[lusty hinge]

stock

[shell mortar]

pcs just arent cheap if you really care what you put in it

but if you just want a good performing pc thats fast and you dont care what it has you can get it way cheaper

but i like it in a way i can show off

[lusty hinge]

who doesn't

😝😝

[shell mortar]

that yours?

damn

[lusty hinge]

yeah

[shell mortar]

wth are those fans they cool af

[lusty hinge]

pretty bad picture thats from like before christmas

[shell mortar]

i can tell my the col,or combination

[lusty hinge]

montech ax120 + ax140

[shell mortar]

i dont think i've seen fans that color the shell isntead of the fanblades

pretty cool

[lusty hinge]

yah i like them

[opaque moon]

christmas theme?

[lusty hinge]

theyre not the best performing fans but theyre cool looking so idrc

[lusty hinge]

yeah

[opaque moon]

W

[shell mortar]

W

[lusty hinge]

im back to just pink now. took all my decorations down

[shell mortar]

i have some pretty cheap fans myself too but they have rgb and arent too loud so im fine with that

[opaque moon]

i'm trying to do a white and blue ice like thing

[shell mortar]

i have AIO cooler on my cpu so it doesnt really matter

[lusty hinge]

fair

[lusty hinge]

ohh thats awesome

[opaque moon]

but my black mATX mobo is killing the vibes

[lusty hinge]

matx for the win

[opaque moon]

it looks devious in a atx case

its the same mobo i had in my cyberpower prebuilt from 2019 😭😭

[lusty hinge]

yikes

i got my matx in an atx case

loving life

[shell mortar]

I just havent bothered upgrading my stuff since I dont really play anymore

i just have a 4 monitor setup with a 3060

dont really feel like selling it either so i rather just keep it

[lusty hinge]

makes sense

i imagine its pretty hard to come by someone wanting to buy a 3060 anyway

[shell mortar]

I could easily sell this pc if i wanted to

i have alot of friends who still have a 1080 or worse lol

[woeful ravine]

I play on Mac or PS5

Which I know sucks to be me 😞

[opaque moon]

just built my brother his first pc what do yall think