💻-building-a-pc

[lusty hinge]

LOL

[grave cipher]

this is the true way

not listen to any of class

look up the answers later

[lusty hinge]

exactly!

most of the time i dont even find myself looking it up online though

not much of a way to say this without sounding like but... i know most of whats said

but yesh

not paying attention to class is >>>

what are you charging anyway?

[grave cipher]

lets see

[lusty hinge]

i dont imagine youre using all your usb slots for chargers

[grave cipher]

logitech superlight, logitech g303, headset, phone, earphones for phone, tablet, xbox controller

[lusty hinge]

thats awesome

[grave cipher]

the only thing thats actually plugged in 24/7 is my keyboard and the dongle for said mouses

[lusty hinge]

that makes sense

[grave cipher]

funnily enough thats not even half of my total usb slots

[lusty hinge]

whatcha got? livemixer?

[grave cipher]

(I have a lot)

Z590 Unify

[lusty hinge]

peak.

aaa

[grave cipher]

i got more

i think?

i have like 20 type As i swear

[lusty hinge]

mmmm you may have close

[grave cipher]

i could be spreading false information

[lusty hinge]

this one right?

[grave cipher]

yea

[lusty hinge]

silly little misinfo spread

[grave cipher]

it feels like a lot more

[lusty hinge]

honestly both have a lot

[grave cipher]

bested by a cheap knock off

[lusty hinge]

dont speak down on the livemixer like that

😡

[grave cipher]

im trolling

[vivid isle]

hey

[grave cipher]

ive used it for oc its actually really good

[lusty hinge]

the livemixer is awesome

shame they made the amd one... pepperoni pizza coloured

i would have happily paid for it otherwise

[grave cipher]

yea the intel one is a sexy purple

[lusty hinge]

its beautiful

both look great tbf

[grave cipher]

if they do one for the gen i upgrade im buying it no questions

[lusty hinge]

i got my board for £80 so i wasnt really choosing any others

[vivid isle]

is steelseries actually gives free 1 month nitro ?? i saw a video of it on yt

[lusty hinge]

not anymore

you missed it

[vivid isle]

[grave cipher]

i got mine for a whooping steal (£250)

[lusty hinge]

do you plan on upgrading soon

[vivid isle]

ahh

[lusty hinge]

£250 seems like a banger

£250 barely gets you a tesco meal deal tbf

[vivid isle]

is there anyway to get free nitro ? anywhere?

[lusty hinge]

you can get 1 month trials through xbox i think

[grave cipher]

£250 couldn't power my oc for 1 night

[lusty hinge]

god

what is it youre ocing

i think ive asked this before

[grave cipher]

just my bocket lake trash

[vivid isle]

i see thnx i will ccheck it now

[grave cipher]

it does 400W at 1.4Vcore

[lusty hinge]

buy coffee lake now

[lusty hinge]

disgusting (7800x3d user)

[grave cipher]

honestly i wish i stayed on it

[lusty hinge]

400w is impressive

OC is cool

[grave cipher]

the cores are very inefficient

[lusty hinge]

yeah as expected

[grave cipher]

and very hot

[lusty hinge]

mmm yes lga 1200 cpus

[grave cipher]

im definitely gonna go sub zero cooling with jank hw first because i love ocing too much (and hwbot points)

the 10900k is better

[lusty hinge]

absolutely no way this is real

[grave cipher]

unironically

[lusty hinge]

sub zero cooling?

fair play

i respect it tbh

where in the UK are you

[grave cipher]

manchester

[lusty hinge]

if close enough ill need to see this jank in person

i hate you

sorry.

[grave cipher]

what

[lusty hinge]

bring this sub zero over to wales

[grave cipher]

wales 💀

[lusty hinge]

LOL

[grave cipher]

it wont be for a good while

[lusty hinge]

thats chill

if this channel doesnt get nuked by the time you do it

you must send it here

[grave cipher]

ill be sure to

with a world record to boot (hopefully)

[lusty hinge]

itd be awesome

i believe in this WR

[grave cipher]

I did hold the wr for my 4070ti

i was vsing another Australian guy for it

[lusty hinge]

4070 ti over a 4070 super? interesting

[grave cipher]

before the supers

[lusty hinge]

honestly, you win.

[grave cipher]

I did and then the french came

and i lost

[lusty hinge]

god no

not the french

[grave cipher]

are you not interested in any of this?

[lusty hinge]

in my eyes, youre the winner. the french arent deserving of anything

[lusty hinge]

in OC?

i dabble in a little but i dont really go for leaderboards or anything

[grave cipher]

XOC specifically but both

[lusty hinge]

im on a locked cpu right now anyway

dont even have PBO on cuz i never figured it out

this damn bios

[grave cipher]

no eclk on the board either

big rip for the tinkerer inside you

[lusty hinge]

yeah its sad

i could buy a second rig for OC but i think with the student debt i have id be an idiot to do so

ill probably just give it a couple years and upgrade to something better for it

[grave cipher]

ahh yes student debt

my favourite part of education

[lusty hinge]

oh its awesome

£16 in my account right now what am i buying next

i can get maybe one ram die

not even the stick 😿

[grave cipher]

a singular ic

lol

you still tinker with memory then?

[lusty hinge]

mmmyesh i like memory

i havent done for a little while

last time i reset my cmos i just decided ill hit xmp and game

my xmp is 6400 cl32 with whatever-the-hell stuff it puts on

but ive gone kinda high on this board

i know a true psychopath

let me see if i can find the screenshot

bah, cant find it. 11000 MT/s or something

[grave cipher]

oh what on an apu?

[lusty hinge]

8600g i think

guy bought an entire rig for OC

[grave cipher]

oh yea thats what happens when you go too far down the rabbit hole

you spend too much time chasing the subs

(my life path)

[lusty hinge]

it was a dark and stormy night. i woke up and checked my phone. "a message? from who, saying what?"
it was him.
"https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3MGWt 2200 fclk 8800mclk here i come!!!"

its psychotic and i love it

[grave cipher]

i actually hate how cracked that board is for mem

[lusty hinge]

its insane

[grave cipher]

the asrock engineers blew voodoo magic into it and it out does £500 boards

for a fraction of the price

[lusty hinge]

its a shame they dont know how to make good BIOSes anymore

[grave cipher]

yea they kinda fell off in that department

[lusty hinge]

but yeah they were on crack while they made this one

[grave cipher]

but they still make nice boards

like the crazy one

[lusty hinge]

boards are awesome, bios stinks.

waking up and telling yourself "today is the day i buy this machine" is, by my definition, the day of insanity

youre not human

its awesome, dont get me wrong

but god.

[grave cipher]

"today i give into my deeper urges and do 11000 mclk"

[opal folio]

whats the highest hertz monitor ?

[grave cipher]

while spending £700

[lusty hinge]

casual £700 for a minor itch in the brain

speedu setup leaked

[grave cipher]

ITS ACTUALLY KINDA CLOSE AS WELL

NOOO

[lusty hinge]

GOD

i knew it

i bloody knew it

[grave cipher]

its cleaner

[lusty hinge]

i imagine it also doesnt have the bomb?

[grave cipher]

but very accruate in the positioning of literally everything

yea minus the bomb

[lusty hinge]

thank you thermaltake for being the worlds leader in cheap explosives

[grave cipher]

i have eyes but i do not want to see

[lusty hinge]

LMFAO

[grave cipher]

actually he missed in that screenshot

[lusty hinge]

i have no idea what happened to that server

[grave cipher]

i got a minecraft mous pad

[lusty hinge]

the other day it was just a ram stick

[lusty hinge]

no shot

speedu set up real? when?

[grave cipher]

now

[lusty hinge]

hell yeah

[grave cipher]

hol up ill send 2 angles are a bit awkward

and i bet this goes into the collection you have of peoples set ups

collecting them like pokimon

[lusty hinge]

oh absolutely im looking forward to it

[lusty hinge]

this guy

actual minecraft mousepad

i respect it 💯

[grave cipher]

yep we balling

16k elo in cs

[lusty hinge]

as expected from you

second monitor is peak

[grave cipher]

its a 75hz 900p vga out

[lusty hinge]

looks ancient and im all for it

WTF

[grave cipher]

i used to game on it

[lusty hinge]

oh my

[grave cipher]

16:10

[lusty hinge]

big monitor upgrade then

[grave cipher]

i had an ultra wide

[lusty hinge]

your only logical option is to now replace it with that one alienware 4k oled

[grave cipher]

and then it died

[lusty hinge]

thats a shame

UW is peak

[grave cipher]

I know dude

it was like going from 60 to 144

but screen space instead

like eye opening

[lusty hinge]

it does wonders

UW oh UW 💜💜💜

if i could afford one id buy one

ive used a couple previously and its literally heaven

[grave cipher]

god i played cp2077 in PT

and it is literal heaven

[lusty hinge]

PT as in path tracing? or am i stupid

[grave cipher]

yea

[lusty hinge]

how was 20fps

[grave cipher]

path tracing

it was 45 actually

[lusty hinge]

i dont believe it

[grave cipher]

with dlss balanced

[lusty hinge]

makes sense

maybe i should try it sometime

[grave cipher]

used to be 1# gpu in hwbot

[lusty hinge]

😿😿

[grave cipher]

it can take those shots

i actually miss it

the UW i mean

[lusty hinge]

ah

yeah theyre awesome

[grave cipher]

what games do you play?

I might be able to entice you on the UW experience

even more

[lusty hinge]

uhhhh

why have i completely forgotten

[grave cipher]

bro is gonna say like league or legends or smth

or fortnite

[lusty hinge]

nah nah

fortnite 720p all comp settings

with windows debloat custom iso* for premium fps

i have actually forgotten

let me open steam

ah yes

elden ring, MCC, helldivers ii (once in a blue moon), palworld, phasmophobia, subnautica, terraria/tmod, GTA, stardew

also some grounded and R6S

dabble in a bit of fortnite here and there

BTD6 >

i think the killer would be osu

osu on UW seems interesting

[grave cipher]

does it even scale to UW?

[lusty hinge]

thats a good question

i dont think so

beatmaps would become broke

[grave cipher]

based game collection

[lusty hinge]

😎

[grave cipher]

R6S though

[lusty hinge]

r6s is like

... basically never

i dont even think i have it installed right now tbh

ubisoft launcher is gross

[grave cipher]

I love ubisoft

how dare you slander them

[lusty hinge]

my apologies. 🐋

youre an r6s nerd?

[grave cipher]

no used to be though

[lusty hinge]

of course

[grave cipher]

what do you mean by that

[lusty hinge]

figured from the current CS play and well

the bio

i was gonna ask your peak rank but i realised id have no idea how it would scale to skill

[grave cipher]

lol

i forgor the bios

[lusty hinge]

its awesome

[grave cipher]

its been there since forever

[lusty hinge]

never remove it

[grave cipher]

i would never

not even if my life depended on it

the funny must prevail

[lusty hinge]

the funny r6fortnite before all

[grave cipher]

you've never played ranked?

[lusty hinge]

nope

dont even know what ranks r6s uses

could be like valorants for all i know where its just some random make believe words

[grave cipher]

basically valorant but much worse

[lusty hinge]

god

[grave cipher]

what you dont like valorant either?

next your gonna tell me your on PS5

[lusty hinge]

LOL

ive played valorant before

never ranked

was never good at it either

half the reason i dont play it anymore is cuz i cba to go into BIOS for it

also i dont want riot on my system

id get a BSOD immediately

[grave cipher]

"please enable secure boot and tpm 🤓 ☝️"

[lusty hinge]

freak their anti cheat

id rather die

[grave cipher]

yea valorant is pretty bad

I was forced to play it when all my friends suddenly liked it

thank god it was just a phase

[lusty hinge]

thats grim, i feel bad for you.

[grave cipher]

its alright they all like rust now

and try and drag me on that instead

[lusty hinge]

ew

[grave cipher]

its a terrible existence having irl friends

avoid them at all costs and become hermit

[lusty hinge]

id say its worse playing rust, but it doesnt have an awful anti cheat

[grave cipher]

nah its still bad though

[lusty hinge]

oh yeah it sucks

[grave cipher]

50/50 chance it bans you

[lusty hinge]

just whatever it feels like

[grave cipher]

yea basically

never gets the actual ones though

might just move to league at this point

or try my hand at being a fortnite pro

im sure that'll go well

[lusty hinge]

fortnite is a choice

honestly kinda enjoying it currently icl

probably due to the fact im not a weirdo playing at all low

[grave cipher]

nah the real players play performance mode

anything else and you're just not real imo

[lusty hinge]

i used to play performance all low

i was kinda into it

i hated dx11 for some reason

now im running dx12 everything at epic and idk, id say i prefer this

althougj if you took it away from me i wouldnt care

would happily go back to perf

[grave cipher]

i tell you what

if it ran well it would be valid

[lusty hinge]

it doesnt youre right

[grave cipher]

but it runs like garbage

utter gutter trash

[lusty hinge]

its just a stuttery mess

[grave cipher]

the worst part is that it looks geniunely good

but runs so very very bad

even without the stutters using nanite kills the frame rate

[lusty hinge]

yeah it is a shame tbh

it looks great but i dont think i ever have consistent frame rates or high rates

i choose between stuttery high frames or consistent low frames

not willingly choose though

game just says "lol"

[grave cipher]

game has bipolar performance lmao

[lusty hinge]

i was playing fortnite with ray tracing earlier and looked awesome

but yes

they need to just make it an actually good performing game

oh yesh

did you see the new halo?

may have asked this before too

[grave cipher]

yea in UE5

[lusty hinge]

new halo being made in UE5 looks awesome

[grave cipher]

no you haven't asked me like anything before, not about the setups or oc or da new halo lol

[lusty hinge]

interesting

[grave cipher]

we just kinda chit chat about peoples pc parts

[lusty hinge]

maybe im confusing this place with somrwhere else

[grave cipher]

and poor purchasing decisions

definitely

[lusty hinge]

i love looking at poor purchases

oh my

saw someone earlier today with a 4070 in a 2.2k usd build

[grave cipher]

3060 and 3440x1440 cough cough

yea based ofc

[lusty hinge]

🫠😆😆

[grave cipher]

i would of specced a 1050 at that budget

[lusty hinge]

1050ti*

let me see if i can find

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pw7sbL

it was not 2.2k but still ludicrous

i respect the sm360 though

LCD aios in US are basically either import thermalright from aliexpress, pay for the mediocre kraken, or the big SL360/SM360 🥰🥰

[grave cipher]

okay the $550 cpu is crazy

A 14900K IS CHEAPER

what is this build

[lusty hinge]

US moment

[grave cipher]

a new gen board that offers no new features over last gen

with a last gen chip

and samsung ics on the memory

jesus christ someone get this guy away from his bank account

[lusty hinge]

a 750 dollar 4070

is the cherry on top

like why

its not even "oh but i reaaaally want this" anymore its just stupid

[lusty hinge]

i see things like this all day

its so bad fun

[grave cipher]

this is literally the hyped up pc parts build

[lusty hinge]

6400 CL40 is the method

[grave cipher]

like look at it all its all stuff thats been hyped up

[lusty hinge]

id agree but the ram isnt even 6000 cl30

[grave cipher]

he got that because he doesnt know how to search for hynix

[lusty hinge]

which is the current braindead take

[grave cipher]

that will be samsung memory chips

he will get boned

[lusty hinge]

mmmm yumy samsnug

[grave cipher]

but look right

theres no logical reason for the combination of parts

[lusty hinge]

its literally just

spend

[grave cipher]

he sees LTT praise item he must have item type stuff

actually not even

[lusty hinge]

LTT doesnt know how to choose SSDs he just uses whatevers sponsored

although MP44 isnt even a good choice at that price

[grave cipher]

i cant even pin point it its that bad

but you know he got the parts from somewhere

[lusty hinge]

oh yeah somewhere

[grave cipher]

and threw them together

[lusty hinge]

its awful its truly just

an awful build

it stood out to me in the sea of other awful builds

[grave cipher]

its like a blind man trying to use echo location to walk down a set of stairs

its just going to end up messy

[lusty hinge]

😭😭

[grave cipher]

and you might die

if you see it

pure utter shock

where did you even see this?

r/buildapc sub?

[lusty hinge]

i "moderate" the greatest woesr server ever made

[lusty hinge]

discord

its a competitive sport of leaving it open on my second monitor and clicking on the builds i think will be bad

then they end up really bad

[grave cipher]

invite me to it i beg you

[lusty hinge]

happily

2 seconds

truly awesome server

[pearl grail]

@lusty hinge oh also forgot to mention this, va panels offer better contrast ratio's than ips monitors and because I do a lot of night photography this is another reason why I went for it, and also va panels are cheaper and curved ips monitors are more expensive. I dont like flat panels except for my vertical monitor which is a ips 1920x1200.

My room is never bright in the first place either so glare is never an issue due to the curve unless I open the curtains and the sun beams directly onto the monitor.

plus, I practically got the monitor for free, I just sold my iPhone to a friend for it that I never technically bought in the first place since it was a christmas gift.

[pearl grail]

The OLED would be tempting for an additional $800 if streaming services weren't absolute ass on pc.

I used to game on a large 1080p tv :p

[lusty hinge]

big win button LOL

@grave cipher casual

[grave cipher]

Many mhz

[lusty hinge]

yeah, nothing much

i ended up finding it

[grave cipher]

tbf its impressive either way

both in terms of imc and the fact that hynixs ics perform so well

if it wasnt for them we'd be stuck doing 7000 still

[lusty hinge]

very

[devout wolf]

bapo?

my condolences 🙏

[crimson scroll]

I remember hanging out there in 2016

[devout wolf]

oh hey saucy

it's been a while

[lusty hinge]

yah 🎃

its something

[pulsar fossil]

What's a woesr?

[lusty hinge]

worst but awesome

[pulsar fossil]

Not sure I understand but okay :D

[lusty hinge]

😆

[pulsar fossil]

Kids these days

[lusty hinge]

you should know by now that im just, silly. 🙈

[pulsar fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/no-doubt-no-diggity-gif-5271845

[lusty hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/miyuki-takara-dance-funny-dance-reddit-dance-gif-8951331922231746373

[pulsar fossil]

SteelSeries speakers are probably great and all but if you ever get your chance to get a pair of newer Genelec, then dew it

Like these

[lusty hinge]

wat about those pebbles or whatever theyre called

[pulsar fossil]

Pebbles?

[lusty hinge]

2seconds

creative pebble

[pulsar fossil]

Genelecs can get very expensive to be fair

[lusty hinge]

hmmm

yeah i dont think they compare then

[pulsar fossil]

They do come cheaper tho

[lusty hinge]

they seem pretty cool

buy 27 of them

[pulsar fossil]

But that's obviously only 1 speaker

And require a XLR sound input

[lusty hinge]

WTF

[pulsar fossil]

They aren't exactly made for consumers

To be fair

More like setups like that

[lusty hinge]

oooo

[pulsar fossil]

Also "fun" fact, that might light look a giant audio mixer but it's litterally just a controller for the "brain"

And if you pressed the right button on the intercom above you'd be talking to me :D

[lusty hinge]

you fool, theres at least 27 buttons on the right

[pulsar fossil]

😅

[lusty hinge]

but that's awesome

[pulsar fossil]

The white one looks great

[lusty hinge]

mmmm

buy 19 of them

[pulsar fossil]

:D

[severe jewel]

im finally upgrading my hardware after wanting to for so long, since ive been putting it off for so long, i'm really nervous on what I should get. Specifically my mouse. Does anyone have any suggestions for a new mouse I should get? Being compatible with steelseries GG is a must, otherwise im not really too fussed on anything else. Although I think it might be interesting to try wireless but im just thinking about latency and input delay. Can anyone help?

[lusty hinge]

i mean if it must be compatible with GG youre pretty limited

i would suggest a Lamzu Maya

but

[grave cipher]

yea you're definitely limiting yourself by going with steelseries specifically. they have good mouses but are definitely not leaders in the market. Wireless connectivity is no different from wired at this point, I wouldn't worry about it. for Fps games i'd go for the prime lineup, general usage rival lineup and for mmo the aerox lineup.

[upper tusk]

Can someone say if this pc is a good starter pc : https://www.otto.de/p/gamemax-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-7-7700x-rtx-4070-super-32-gb-ram-2000-gb-ssd-wasserkuehlung-ddr5-ram-pcie-ssd-gen4-windows-11-1826962287/#variationId=1826962321

[grave cipher]

You should build one yourself

[pulsar fossil]

I generally agree with that but building a PC is not for everyone and pre-built PCs have come a long way

[lusty hinge]

well

did you not look at the one he sent

[ornate spire]

i think choosing your own parts and having someone build it might be more worth while, you can get more reliable parts for cheaper. i have an iBuyPower prebuild but def could have saved some money from building it/having someone build it and gotten a better psu and stuff

[upper tusk]

The thing is i have to buy a pre build because my parents doesn't let me to build one by myself

[ornate spire]

do some research to find reliable brands and what parts will be enough for you. i spent some time watching performance videos and figuring out what id need then looked at reviews for the prebuilt brands. ended up getting an iBuyPower and im happy with it after i did a little digging, might wanna add the parts on pcpartpicker.com to see how much theyre upcharging. if the prebuilt costs more than $200 than just the parts then its not really worth it (imo)

[grave cipher]

yea the one he sent is a hotbox with like generic parts.
doesnt list mobo, ram, ssd, cooler, psu

and that case will cause heating issues

i have personal experience with it

[pulsar fossil]

For sure I was talking in general

Not about that specific machine

[grave cipher]

yea I was more or less saying that I said it based on what he sent

scan 3XS prebuilts are probably the best ive seen in build quality and parts

a lot of the american retailers get secret shopped and most of them have issues

[ornate spire]

if you know what games you want to play at what fps/graphics/ if you wanna stream etc we might be able to help better

[lusty hinge]

why does streaming matter

its not 2018 amd can stream fine

nvidia also loses to other encoders

[ornate spire]

ok? still need more performance for streaming

[lusty hinge]

no you dont

not on modern hardware

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897414401731231774/1263656148758696009/2024-07-18_19-27-58.mp4?ex=66c536ff&is=66c3e57f&hm=28fb049aee9b40fba4e7bb2111eda3c6cc4ab1de8cc303f30157a5668c22e48f&

intel

[grave cipher]

yea streaming is really easy

because the requirements have been the same since release for basic functionality

and hardware has only got better

[ornate spire]

depends on budget, but id assume since he sent that one it doesnt matter, so i'll agree

[upper tusk]

Ok do you guys have few pre build pc that you would recommend for a budget of 1600€

[grave cipher]

if you can find a place that accepts complete custom orders i'd start with that

make it yourself and have them build it

[upper tusk]

Ok thanks

[grave cipher]

btw convincing your parents to let you do it yourself is most likely your best option here, but assuming that's a no go at all (I can relate) then yea a custom order would be best

[upper tusk]

Do you guys think that this pre build pc is good : https://www.systemtreff.de/Gaming-PC-Intel-Core-i7-12700KF-32GB-DDR5-6000-CL30-Kingston-FURY-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-4070-Super-12GB-1TB-M2-SSD-NVMe-MSI-Spatium

[lusty hinge]

no

tbf it could be worse

[dusty badger]

does anyone know a lot about AIO coolers? and mostly the compatibility with motherboards?
i need to know if my PRIME B550M-K is compatible with the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 240. im mostly worrying about the mounting bracket and if i can even connect it to my motherboard. motherboard is a micro-ATX and the cooler does support AM4.

[ornate spire]

im dumb but as a temporary answer till someone smart replies, pcpartpicker.com will tell you if the parts you put in are compatible

[lusty hinge]

yeah

but why get it

the LF is already jank

why get the 240mm

its irrelevant

[grave cipher]

LF is based if you're not on a curvy af ihs

i.e. lga1700

[glass lotus]

IT IS

[glass lotus]

yes

[lusty hinge]

240mm one though? bah.

[grave cipher]

thiccness means very good

its 40mm thicc vs 28mm thicc on 360 generic rad

limiting factor is gonna be coldplate/ihs iirc

[lusty hinge]

id still argue its not worth it

[grave cipher]

its more or less a case compatibility thing

if you can mount a 360 mount a 360

just some cases lose support for larger gpus with front mounted rads (if the top only supports 240mm)

[lusty hinge]

considering its am4

the method here is to buy a burst assassin or something

[grave cipher]

yea typically that's the play but if he wants an aio he wants an aio

if normies abided by logic then rgb junk wouldn't exist and everything would be very good for a very cheap price

corsair would die overnight

[lusty hinge]

youre so right

[pulsar fossil]

When you say RGB junk do you mean any kind of RGB or something more specific?

[grave cipher]

stuff like this

now thats bad

minimalist rgb can still look nice it just has to be done right

[ornate spire]

got a lil bit of performance in the rgb, gotta restart all over again

[pulsar fossil]

I'm not a big fan of RGB vomit but I wouldn't call that bad. The lighting is pretty well done actually

[lusty hinge]

lennart

there is a display on the power supply

are you okay? did you bump your head?

[wind knoll]

its amazing how I can see the Geforce RTX logo reflecting off the glass, back into the pro-art logo, then into the camera's lens

[pulsar fossil]

Isn't that kinda snobby of you? The advantage if PC gaming is that you can build the PC that you want. I don't have a screen on my PSU but I can't see anything wrong with wanting it

[ocean onyx]

rx 6600 or rtx 3060?

[lusty hinge]

grrrrim just playing around

i think its crazy that they have displays on psus but yknow

its whatever

[lusty hinge]

whatevers cheaper

[wind knoll]

Imagine a steelseries case. I would definitely buy that

[lusty hinge]

itd have to be good at a good price to be a worthwhile purchase

also include fans

[earnest copper]

hallo i install my arctis nova 7

and its no surround on my pc

need help please

[proud briar]

Mines already built 😄

[lusty hinge]

what ssd is that

[noble oak]

majestic

[proud briar]

(i79700KF @4.8ghz, 32gb 3600mhz, 2 1x 1tb m.2 drives one internal one on USB external, MSI ventus xc oc rtx 2080 super 8gb @1985mhz, Cooler master radiator and fans top and front of case. Antec 140mm fans inside to help my rad on front. Why there is a loose fan I replaced back fan with one.)

[lusty hinge]

what ssd though

[proud briar]

Im drawing a blank on the name of brand.. it starts with a c

[lusty hinge]

yeah i dont wanna know brand

https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskInfoInstaller

[proud briar]

Eh

[lusty hinge]

a brand doesnt tell me what ssd it is

i could guess and say its a c910 or something

but they have a heatspreader so

[proud briar]

https://a.co/d/hffBPpp

[lusty hinge]

gah

[proud briar]

It seems to stay pretty cool actually I have considered getting a lil heat spreader for it but my case cooling must do fine for it. I get full speed out of it. Have for years idk lol

[lusty hinge]

heatsink on a p3 makes no sense

it doesnt get hot enough. no ssd does really

even if it did

its a p3

[proud briar]

I have one on my external one just because it came with it XD it has a lil gel thing and a metal enclosure. I've had 0 issues with it. I got a cheapo one first and it straight up didn't work lol

[lusty hinge]

p3 plus uses E21T + N48R

its so sad

[proud briar]

https://a.co/d/2uuskqb this is my external one and the thing for it https://a.co/d/0fvvTbZ <- actually recommend its made well and has been super stable ive never lost the drive or anything while using it. It's what came with heat spreader

Idk really anything about storage I just got what seemed fast enough for my needs to match internet speed sort of and it have some overhead so it's not freaking out. I used to have Xbox growing up and PlayStations so this is definitely a improvement to me XD any more wouldn't make since because I wouldn't ever use it or notice other than load times the m.2 already really helps with. Idk. It's similar to USB's to me just the tech matured

[nimble pasture]

Get a decently fast ssd 1tb and an hdd 4tb+

[lusty hinge]

why on earth would you do thatr

[nimble pasture]

For storage

??

[lusty hinge]

a 1tb ssd and a 4tb hdd?

in 2024??

a 2tb ssd costs $99

[nimble pasture]

Yeah with like 3gb/s speed

That's very slow in case you don't know

[lusty hinge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HcWJ7P/msi-spatium-m482-eco-pack-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-m482-nvme-m2-2tb-bulk

"in case you didnt know" this is a good ssd

lol

[nimble pasture]

You need like 5000mb/s +

[lusty hinge]

..what?

[nimble pasture]

Beo

Ssd speed

[marsh jolt]

yo just got a nova 1 headset and cant get it to work anyone know why?

[lusty hinge]

the average user doesnt even saturate pcie gen 3 speeds

[nimble pasture]

Ok

So youre telling me buying fast ssds is useless

[lusty hinge]

when are you ever hitting 5000mbs

no

dont twist my words

[nimble pasture]

Dude 😭

Transfer speed

Doesn't have to do with internet spedd

[lusty hinge]

again

dont twist my words

i never mentioned internet

[nimble pasture]

You just mentioned Mbps??

[lusty hinge]

no i didnt

please learn to read

[nimble pasture]

Mb

Mb

Still it's useful

For like 20 more dollars

[lusty hinge]

no it isnt

youre buying SSDs wrong

[nimble pasture]

Where are you storing your games

[lusty hinge]

whats your point

[nimble pasture]

That you need an hdd

[lusty hinge]

no you dont

[nimble pasture]

When are you gonna store your games??

[lusty hinge]

on an ssd. your point being?

[nimble pasture]

Hdd for games, ssd for windows etc

Hard drives are cheaper

[lusty hinge]

what

why would you use a hard drive for games in 2024

[nimble pasture]

Find me an ssd that costs 130$

[lusty hinge]

and why are you getting a seperate ssd for windows in 2024

[lusty hinge]

i did already

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HcWJ7P/msi-spatium-m482-eco-pack-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-m482-nvme-m2-2tb-bulk

[nimble pasture]

8tb one

[lusty hinge]

youre trolling

@pulsar fossil

[nimble pasture]

Bro

8tb is 120-150

If you get an hdd

[lusty hinge]

an 8tb hdd sure

[nimble pasture]

Yeah

[lusty hinge]

if youre buying an 8tb hdd youre not using it for games

[nimble pasture]

You can use it for anything

[lusty hinge]

no ones buying an 8tb hdd for games

[nimble pasture]

You realize 1tb is 4 or 5 games

Or less

[lusty hinge]

it depends on the games

[nimble pasture]

Some games take up like 300gb

Or even more

[lusty hinge]

so buy a 4tb ssd

for 200

[nimble pasture]

A 4tb ssd is NOT 200

[lusty hinge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZM4Zxr/silicon-power-us75-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp04kgbp44us7505

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fd3NnQ/klevv-cras-c910-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-k04tbm2sp0-c91

these are reviewed SSDs

[nimble pasture]

That's slower than an hdd most probably

[lusty hinge]

youre making a fool of yourself

[nimble pasture]

Ok ryou know what

[lusty hinge]

i suggest you dont speak on a topic unless you actually know of it

[nimble pasture]

Nah

Says you

[proud briar]

@nimble pasture I understand your thoughts. I do have extra sata cables and stuff In my case.

[lusty hinge]

its embarassing that you understood what he said

[proud briar]

You never remember taking apart anything to use it's storage?

[lusty hinge]

where was that mentioned

[proud briar]

Was just saying

[grave cipher]

sequential read/write is useless for gaming apps, only really matters in workstation scenarios

you want high random read/writes since thats what most stuff is limited by

theres a reason intel optane exists and why it has faster response times than literally everythning

[lusty hinge]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/klevv-cras-c925-2-tb/10.html

game downloads arent one big file

theyre lots of smaller files

ssd advertised speeds mean nothing

especially when you consider the NV2 advertises itself quite high

[lusty hinge]

mmmm VP4300 Lite and M482 are both E27T+BiCS6

(2TB)
one being $99 but long shipping and the other being $109 but next day on amazon

[grave cipher]

The $10 difference is the shipping

[lusty hinge]

yum

[grave cipher]

At least If E27T and BiCS6 are the controllers

[lusty hinge]

mmm biscuit 6 so delicious

[grave cipher]

Biscuit lmao

But it would mean they come from the same factory

So most likely same shipping process

And same cost

[lusty hinge]

yeah theyre the same stuff

$10 isnt too bad depending on your postage rng

some guy bought it 4 weeks ago and is still supposedly waiting 2 more weeks

but ive seen others say they had it same week

personally id just sod it and get the vp4300L though

[noble oak]

chuja

[proud briar]

?

[noble oak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rwr3z6

buying it rite now

any critics on the set up

[grave cipher]

whats the use case exactly? just gaming?

[noble oak]

yes

@grave cipher

warzone, league of legends, runescape, and probably watch movies with wife and for work

[paper pollen]

yo

[grave cipher]

cooler is overkill but pricing and reusability makes it valid. Don't need to buy MX 6 since the cooler comes with the same stuff.
board is definitely not worth the price but I assume you went for it based on looks?
memory is good, I personally approve. But 2x24 does exist...
don't need 2 separate m.2s, pool the money for both and buy a 4TB one instead.
Gpu is fine.
Case looks fine though its more personal preference.
PSU is okay, though if 1000w isn't much more I'd recommend one of them just for headroom and reusability.
monitor is good for $200 and is IPS, wish I saw that deal.
keyboard is an interesting choice? I would of gone for the apex pro or a wooting variation.
mouse is probably personal preference.
headset is stupid overpriced, headsets north of $80 are going to be more or less the same for gaming, pair with Rode mic for professional mic quality if that's what you seek.
and speakers I don't know enough about to comment

[noble oak]

@grave cipher messaged you and thanks for your opinion!

[lusty hinge]

sn770 kills itself

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hkw6n6
@noble oak

optionally replace headset with Audeze Maxwell
drop cpu and get a better gpu/change platform and get a 14600kf

changed psu for native 12+4
changed monitor cuz better and can be had for $180 on dell.com

7800x3d really isnt worth $475

personally id just go 14600kf and take the slight performance hit

itll get you a better gpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vVD2QP

look at all the money saved

bonus points because the Aqua Elite V3 costs less on amazon

[lusty hinge]

creative pebble speakers are decent

for keyboards just open this

https://www.keychron.com/

motherboard has bios flashback btw

so update that before putting in 14600kf

[nimble pasture]

13th and 14th gen CPUs are not great

[lusty hinge]

im not doing this

dont embarrass yourself a second time

[grave cipher]

intel chips are better just requires a bit of tweaking to get the most out of them

[lusty hinge]

not even

well

im assuming hes on about the old issues with voltages

which was fixed ages ago with a simple bios update

[grave cipher]

yea and if you were a tweaker it never happened from the get go

[lusty hinge]

yup

[grave cipher]

1.6V VID requests my beloved

[lusty hinge]

they should give 4v

[grave cipher]

4V vs 7nm transistor

who wins

[lusty hinge]

obviously the transistor lets be real

[nimble pasture]

They're better in terms of performance

[lusty hinge]

im not ready for what youre about to say next

[nimble pasture]

But they have some serious issus

[lusty hinge]

source

[nimble pasture]

.....

Buddy

[lusty hinge]

i beg you provide a source because there are none

[nimble pasture]

Search online

Search on yt

Any content creator you like

[lusty hinge]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+a+bios+update+

[nimble pasture]

That hasn't fixed them completely

[lusty hinge]

just update your bios 😹

[lusty hinge]

source?

[nimble pasture]

Internet

[lusty hinge]

theres no creditable source that says the newest microcode hasnt fixed it

until its proven that its not fixed... its fixed

[nimble pasture]

There is

[lusty hinge]

source

[nimble pasture]

Bro

They're still crashing

[lusty hinge]

yeah. the old, affected chips

[nimble pasture]

All of the chips are affected

The 13th and 14th gen

[lusty hinge]

holy

@grave cipher come look

[grave cipher]

im looking alright

[lusty hinge]

same guy who told me some ssds were slower than hdds

us75 4tb

i dont think so

[nimble pasture]

I never said that

As you said don't twist my words

[nimble pasture]

Yeah

[lusty hinge]

lol

[nimble pasture]

Ok I can't talk to an idiot

Sorry

[lusty hinge]

lol

[nimble pasture]

Cya

[grave cipher]

if they're still crashing thats a user issue, either not bios updated or have disabled the baseline profile

[nimble pasture]

What's so lol

[lusty hinge]

https://www.technewstoday.com/what-is-usb-bios-flashback/

god knows what site this is

[nimble pasture]

I can't find something funny in being actually stupid

[lusty hinge]

youre confidently incorrect! where are your sources!!

[nimble pasture]

I know what a bioa update is bro

[lusty hinge]

the issues have been fixed!

[nimble pasture]

My eyes

[nimble pasture]

Mostly

[grave cipher]

No! don't open his eyes to the reality, let him live in fantasy

[nimble pasture]

Very funny

[lusty hinge]

to be fair i would happily live in fantasy than deal with zen .5%

[nimble pasture]

So you're telling me that there's no 13th or 14th gen Intel CPU that has problems related to this rn?

[lusty hinge]

yes

[nimble pasture]

Source

??

Yes or no

[lusty hinge]

0x12b

0x12b is my source

[grave cipher]

0x129 also

[nimble pasture]

I can't deal with you

[lusty hinge]

thats fine

[nimble pasture]

@grave cipher are you his lawyer or something

[grave cipher]

if that does not fix crashing then your cpu is defective

and you should rma

[nimble pasture]

If you buy a CPU now

You're not gonna has issues

[grave cipher]

as intel recommended with the release of 129

[lusty hinge]

if you buy a cpu now, you update your bios

if you update your bios

you have no issues

[nimble pasture]

But let's say you bought one 5 months ago

[lusty hinge]

are you running the newest bios version and face issues?

wait

why is 5 months ago even relevant??

[grave cipher]

its not

[nimble pasture]

Ok you both ididots good bye

[lusty hinge]

😭

[zinc forum]

Ban?

[lusty hinge]

"there was an issue ages ago. its been fixed now. but there used to be an issue. this means everything now is bad"

[nimble pasture]

Sorry I said such an offensive word as 'idiot'

[grave cipher]

if thats the case then you cant get 7800X3Ds either since they might still explode

[nimble pasture]

If you use an Asus x570 mb then maybe

[lusty hinge]

what

[nimble pasture]

Bro

[grave cipher]

okay this guy has to be trolling

[lusty hinge]

its not even the same socket?

[nimble pasture]

Wait no

Mb

Not x570

But some Asus motherboards burned x3d cpus

[lusty hinge]

case in point

[grave cipher]

it happened to all 600 series boards because all 600 series boards had SOC voltage unlocked

and the SOC would request 1.4v and nuke the cache

[nimble pasture]

Ok

👍

[lusty hinge]

speedu how does it feel just getting "Ok"d

[grave cipher]

reality check

[nimble pasture]

Dude

You know what

Ok

You're right

[lusty hinge]

i knew this

[nimble pasture]

Ok??

[grave cipher]

basically feels like a waste of time at this point

[lusty hinge]

mmmm feeding the trolls

[nimble pasture]

Ok yeah

[grave cipher]

another ok'd

[lusty hinge]

im gonna cry myself to sleep

[nimble pasture]

X3d cpus burn and 13th and 14th gen have no problems

Alright?

[grave cipher]

this guy just sending ko's left right and center

[lusty hinge]

they dont burn though

[grave cipher]

they used to

like how 14th gen used to

and its been fixed

[lusty hinge]

😭

[grave cipher]

in both cases

[nimble pasture]

Ok

[lusty hinge]

LOL

[nimble pasture]

Agreed

[grave cipher]

good glad you came to the understanding

[glacial igloo]

Guys I need help

I have a 2060 gpu and I want to upgrade to 4060TI/4060 but I have an i5 10400f cpu should I upgrade my cpu as well?

[zinc forum]

I have i7 4770k and GT 1030 so you don't have to

[noble oak]

Damn, bought my things already. Was too late to see this, but @grave cipher gave me great feedback and change some things on time, plus added top top stuff with his recommendations

[lusty hinge]

not like yours was bad

i just gave more cost effective alternatives

[grave cipher]

what do you play

game/settings/res

[glacial igloo]

Chivalry 2,battlefield,assetto corsa,db sparking zero,no mans sky,squad,cs go. And more

I try to play on medium/high/epic settings

On 1440p

165hz

[lusty hinge]

a 4060 isnt gonna get you that far

[grave cipher]

none of those games use RT or anything so amd is probably better here

for pricing to performance

[grave cipher]

^ this basically

[glacial igloo]

Hmm so what should I get?

[lusty hinge]

depends on your budget

otherwise why would i not tell you to get a 4090 lol

[glacial igloo]

Cuz I do fell like my pc is falling behind

[grave cipher]

a 2060 is pretty bad by modern day standards

because Vram

[lusty hinge]

mmm vram

[glacial igloo]

Well for now it’s not high that’s why i want to upgrade my gpu cuz it’s one of the most essential parts to play games

[lusty hinge]

well i still do not know what your budget is

assuming US

[grave cipher]

numbers

type numbers

[lusty hinge]

a 7700xt is the same price as a 4060 iirc

but no number

[glacial igloo]

Around 600ish

[grave cipher]

thats free

[lusty hinge]

oh my

[glacial igloo]

I’m not the smartest when it comes to pc building so spare me

[lusty hinge]

could just get a 7900 GRE

[grave cipher]

could be more conserved and go 6800XT and get a second hand 10900k as well

2 birds with one stone

though it depends on the board he has

[lusty hinge]

inb4 super low h510

[grave cipher]

yea a 10400f and a 2060

definitely spot on with that

but one can dream

[lusty hinge]

i hope for a top tier z590

[grave cipher]

unify x or ocf lmao

never

[glacial igloo]

I have a asus prime b460 plus

[grave cipher]

then probably more worth to change platforms

[glacial igloo]

To what?

[grave cipher]

only thing thats worth any thought is am5

but it would be too much

better off with 7900gre and just save up separately

[lusty hinge]

youre at 1440p anyway so its not the end of the world

[glacial igloo]

Idk if I’m looking at the wrong one but it’s moreexpensive than the 4060 or the 4060 ti

[lusty hinge]

7900 GRE costs less than the 4060 Ti?

oh more

[glacial igloo]

Stupid auto correct lol

[lusty hinge]

shouldnt be by much

if its an issue jsut go 7800xt/7700xt

or 6800xt as suggested earlier

[glacial igloo]

Aight imma check on some prices and decide. thx for the help guys🙏🙏🙏

Wait one more question is my cpu good enough for most gpu’s or is it too weak?

[lusty hinge]

depends on basically everything

[glacial igloo]

Confusing answer but thank you

[grave cipher]

if you run 4K then no bottleneck, if you run 1080p then yes

more variables to it than that but bottom line is what kind of gpu related settings you run

[noble oak]

good?

[zinc forum]

Wow your GPU have cable

But psu is bomb

[pulsar fossil]

Is that a DVD drive or something?

Haven't seen one of those in a while

[grave cipher]

single channel

no m.2 either

[pulsar fossil]

The PC looks kinda entry level

But that's fine

[grave cipher]

this pc is not the sauce

[pulsar fossil]

We all gotta start somewhere and if it does what it needs to do

Why spend more?

[grave cipher]

now there's a difference in what im saying, not hating the components themselves just the configuration of the system

definitely a very old pre built though no doubt about it

[pulsar fossil]

English only please :)

[zinc forum]

I say in Polish Polska and i get mited

[pulsar fossil]

Gotta keep everything English as per the #rules :)

[lusty hinge]

chipset heatsink though so you know its a 10/10

[grave cipher]

mf every board got a chipset heatsink

even the 中国人 boards

[lusty hinge]

nuh uh

[nimble pasture]

I need help with a motherboard

[grave cipher]

continue

[nimble pasture]

Is 5 2 2 vrm going to be good for a 7700x

[nimble pasture]

Yes or no

Anyone else

Even @lusty hinge

[grave cipher]

no how did you even find a board like that?

[lusty hinge]

what board is it

why a 7700x anyway

[nimble pasture]

A gigabyte b650m d3hp

[nimble pasture]

That's not the point

[lusty hinge]

mortifying

[nimble pasture]

Could you just help me plz

[lusty hinge]

yeah

why a 7700x

[nimble pasture]

Is it gonna be fine

I like the 770x

That's why

[lusty hinge]

why not a 14600kf

[nimble pasture]

I dont

Want

[lusty hinge]

7600

[nimble pasture]

Ok

[grave cipher]

asrock b650m hdv/m.2

[nimble pasture]

Is it gonna be good or not

[grave cipher]

for budget

[nimble pasture]

Ok

Thank s

[grave cipher]

might be a bit expensive btw

[nimble pasture]

U said for same budget

[grave cipher]

for a budget board

[nimble pasture]

How much vrm is ideal

[grave cipher]

but its saught after

because asrock black magic

[nimble pasture]

Lol

[lusty hinge]

mmm asrock

what country are you in

[nimble pasture]

Greece

[lusty hinge]

what site do you use to buy motherboard

[nimble pasture]

Its a Greek site