💻-building-a-pc

[open hemlock]

.

[lusty hinge]

what

[noble oak]

i guess this guy is weird (not you lisquie)

[lilac anchor]

.

[lusty hinge]

what

[solid plover]

@tepid oasis

[quaint axle]

So is screen "burn in" covered with waranty for the DAC and the Arctis Nova Pros?

[lusty hinge]

maybe. i doubt it

screen burn in is almost unavoidable

[quaint axle]

doesnt happen on my loupedeck.....

[lusty hinge]

i dont actually remember talking about a loupedeck

[normal pollen]

apex pro mini wireless bluetooth is not working can you help me

[pulsar fossil]

You can ask others for help in #1047622297382567936

Or contact SteelSeries through #official-support

[chrome wren]

If anyone can find a 1440p monitor, that is 27 inches and looks EXACTLY the same as a LG 27GP950-B, and I mean exactly the same, I'll give you some money

[chrome wren]

Or the same as a 27GP95R-B

[brazen mist]

Hey, just looking for a little advise. It's time to put together a new comp. My finances are tight so I don't have a huge budget but I'd like to be able to play anything for a while. I'm looking at:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7800 XT
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB DDR5-6000
Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280

I was looking at the Asus PROART B650-CREATOR but I just dislike Asus. If anyone could advise a decent £150-£200 ish MB and any changes they may suggest to save I'd appriciate it.

I have added the NZXT Kraken Elite cos I do quite fancy the display but if there's a better/cheaper option with display, would love to know. Thanks people.

[chrome wren]

MSI PRO B650-P WIFI

[chrome wren]

240 or 360?

[pulsar fossil]

I've stopped using AIOs

Had a few where the pump failed

There wasn't much performance difference to air cooler so I went with noctua

[brazen mist]

240

[brazen mist]

Yeah, to be fair I think your right. It's honestly just the display. Its pure marketing asthetic I think. I'd prolly better with just a fan.

[chrome wren]

ID-COOLING SL240
Deepcool MYSTIQUE 240
Thermaltake TH240 V2 Ultra EX ARGB Sync
Gigabyte AORUS WATERFORCE X

All are cheaper than the NZXT one, with a screen.

If you're going for air cooling, I'd go for Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black

[brazen mist]

Much appreciated dude. I'll have a look at these now.

[lusty hinge]

oh god

oh god oh god oh god

[lusty hinge]

there isnt anymore

unless youre getting top tier 360mm aios

any decent air cooler can match or even just outperform 240mm aios

they usually match 360mm aios

[lusty hinge]

youre in the UK

do NOT get the kraken elite

absolutely not.

you have the Frozen Vision and the Frozen Warframe available to you

https://amzn.eu/d/01w4iFV4

[lusty hinge]

i would change this

are you using PCPP?

[lusty hinge]

nh-d15s is completely irrelevant on a 7800X3D

waste of money

peerless assassin 120 SE works

phantom spirit 120 EVO if you want a considerably better but still cheap cooler

the 7800X3D is a 60-70w cpu if youre gaming

the 990 Pro is also a ludicrous SSD

none of them are reasonably priced

[lusty hinge]

LG 27GP850-B

theyre literally the exact same as far as i know

[lusty hinge]

if you have a PCPP list, send it here. if not, whats your budget?

entire budget

[chrome wren]

The look different, I want them to look exactly the same.

[lusty hinge]

ill take a look

[chrome wren]

I can't find any, which is really annoying

They've discontinued the 27GP950-B, even though it's the best monitor they sold, IMO.
They replaced it with the 27GP95R-B, which is "newer" and the same monitor but without the RGB on the back, but it's out of stock and hasn't been in stock for a while, so I can't even get the same monitor I already have as a second screen, it's rather annoying

[lusty hinge]

tbf its LG anyway

[chrome wren]

Most monitors use LG displays

[lusty hinge]

yup

im on about the pricing though

tbf in the UK its not the worst

[chrome wren]

IDC about pricing, just want it to look exactly exactly the same as my current main monitor.

[lusty hinge]

ha yeah i respect it

[chrome wren]

It was one of the cheapest, 4K 144hz+ Gsync, HDR monitors when I bought it, and had the best specs so

[lusty hinge]

fair enough

what gpu are you running

also i think cerritus is shy i keep seeing him type

[chrome wren]

3080, until 5000 series comes out.

[lusty hinge]

im assuming the aw2723df is too far off your liking

dont think youre getting anything other than that though

or the 850-B

[chrome wren]

Yeah, it's quite annoying, just want both my monitors to look the same xD

[lusty hinge]

get yourself a g2724d from dell.com and call it a day

trust me

[chrome wren]

I currently have the 27GP950-B as my main, and a 4K, 60hz Samsung as my second, and it annoys my OCD with them being different.

[lusty hinge]

dual 4k are you insane

wait

the samsung one is ips isnt it

actually

they both are

you need to treat yourself and replace it with an OLED 4K wtf

[chrome wren]

TN, whatever that is.

[lusty hinge]

yeah youre looking at about a grand

[brazen mist]

Lol! Cheers, I saw the initial "oh no". To be fair, it's been a while since I built a new PC and stuff is well past me so I appreciate the look in. Budget is something like £1300 - £1500. I'm still rocking an old VG248QE so I'll need a lil cash for a new monitor. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fxGy6D

[lusty hinge]

this is gaming right?

i assume so from the 8x3d

and iirc you mentioned it

[brazen mist]

Yeah, is indeed. And am in the UK.

[lusty hinge]

yuuup

do you already own that case? theres no prices for it

[brazen mist]

I do, and the powersupply

[lusty hinge]

awesome

[chrome wren]

Can't find a 27 inch, 4K OLED, with 144hz+

[lusty hinge]

alienware has one no?

nevermind

[chrome wren]

Nope

Smalled 4K OLED is 32inch, which I don't want.

[lusty hinge]

how comfortable are you with https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005863188096.html?

[chrome wren]

Alienware doesn't even have a 27" 4K monitor at all

[lusty hinge]

i was tweaking then wtf

must have been thinking of the 1440p ones

[chrome wren]

Probably

Theres quite a few 1440p 27 inch OLED's

No 4K 27" OLED's

[lusty hinge]

theres a very small amount of 27 inch 4k oleds

theyre all 60hz

so nevermind

theyre also 2.3k but shh

[chrome wren]

Wanted a monitor that looks exactly the same as my 27GP950-B, but 1440p, (Looks for my OCD, 1440p, because I don't need 4K for spotify and Discord mainly xD)
But can't find any, so I was going to get another 27GP950-B, but it's discontinued.
Found the 27GP95R-B, which is the same, but no RGB on the back, but always out of stock.

[lusty hinge]

yikes

youre looking for something pretty specific

that im almost sure doesnt exist

[chrome wren]

I think I paid like £800 for my 27GP950-B

Was £500 just before they discontinued it

[lusty hinge]

crazy wtf

[chrome wren]

Wish I bought one then xD

[brazen mist]

Yeah, I do have trust issues

[lusty hinge]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/XsXKz6

7600 doesnt really get higher than like 60w in gaming. gpu is also under synthetic benchmark

it could be cheaper but that would obviously result in a 7500f from aliexpress and an mATX white motherboard

personally ive bought like 3 of those 7500f cpus but its your purchase

you can ignore the sapphire 7900XT

thats a different model cuz i got lazy

[lusty hinge]

you could also buy all of this from amazon if you wanted, for whatever reason, and still only pay about £40 more

so if you want literally everything to arrive tomorrow

the ram might be a US import actually if you buy from amazon

ill double check

if it is, ill change it

yes

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8hkx89

Hynix-A die ram.

i also have that ram kit

[brazen mist]

Thank you, very much. I was just looking at the Frozen Vision, it is a good lookin' cooler. I will probably go peerless assassin for the saving. Tho if I stumble on some money down the back of the couch 😉

[lusty hinge]

frozen vision looks awesome. i have it

frozen warframe is cheaper, although iirc the black 360mm version is oddly difficult to come by at a reasonable price

ill link you the cooler

it should be cheaper on a seperate amazon link

https://amzn.eu/d/07gJivRF - frozen vision
https://amzn.eu/d/0dEGsrMa - peerless assassin 120 se

dispatched by amazon, sold by deliming321 (the official thermalright reseller in the UK)

ive bought about 20 things from them lol

[lucid dove]

Guys, which mobo do u rec me for a r5 5600? I had b550m aorus elite but a coil fried and idk if it was my fault, or psu, o bad unit, or that mobo in general

[hallow nimbus]

Hi! I have an r5 5600X, overclocked to 4.7 GHz, and I'm using an Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II, so far it's flawless, but it's also true that I bought it in January.

• I don't know why this happened, I'm not that involved

[lucid dove]

Mmm

Okey, thanks for ur rec

How much voltage u give ur cpu?

[hallow nimbus]

IDK, I using ryzen master's auto oc (The factory oc program)

[lucid dove]

Mmm

Okey ty

When u apply ryzen master settings

Will they remain permanent?

[lusty hinge]

it is not worth paying more for am4

find the cheapest b550 you can that suits your needs

b450 if you dont need anything special, but make sure it has a bios flashback button

[lusty hinge]

yes until you either change them or clear cmos

[lucid dove]

Thing about b450 is i cant uodate bios without that bios button right?

Also, nvme speeds are lowet than b550 no?

And idc, giga aorus elite b550m is 100€

Which i consider pretty decent

But thats the one i had, and a cpu coil died. Idk if that mobo is bad in general or just that unit

Or what

[lusty hinge]

no..?

its just that its older

it could come with an older bios version that doesnt support your cpu

[lusty hinge]

its fine

[lusty hinge]

no

[lucid dove]

So which mobo do u rec me? @lusty hinge

[lusty hinge]

what country are you in

do you need wifi

[lucid dove]

Not wifi

And spain

@lusty hinge

[lusty hinge]

MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 if you want something cheap. doesn't have any ARGB headers at all
ASRock B550M-HDV is also a cheaper option, albeit worse VRMs.
Gigabyte B550M DS3H (mATX version) has bios flashback, lacks on features.
ASRock B550M Pro4 (mATX) is probably the best you'll get for €100.

[lucid dove]

So the one i had, the giga aorus elite b550m

Is a bad option?

[lusty hinge]

no

ASRock B550 Pro4 (ATX) is probably your best choice if you want a full sized ATX board

i wouldnt spend any more than the €116 euros the Pro4 ATX costs

https://www.pccomponentes.com/asrock-b550-pro4

[lucid dove]

I dont care taking a micro atx

[lusty hinge]

has an included m.2 nvme heatsink which is neat

[lusty hinge]

choose from these 4 then
#💻-building-a-pc message

the Pro4 has flashback

[lucid dove]

The asus rog strix costs 120. Is that one good for that price?

[lusty hinge]

the b550-f?

[lucid dove]

Yes

Or the msi mpg

Both are arround 120

[lusty hinge]

is that €120 euros or are you converting

i can only find them for €150

[lucid dove]

Yeah different shops

[lusty hinge]

for €4 more than the ATX Asrock Pro4, its an alright choice

the rog b550-f

[lucid dove]

Okey

And the msi mpg?

[lusty hinge]

rear usb-c, bios flashback, nvme heatsink. the VRMs are.. alright

[lucid dove]

I not an extreme overclocker user

[lusty hinge]

still €120?

[lucid dove]

Ye

[lusty hinge]

ehhh

the rog strix is better in every way when you compare the 2

[lucid dove]

Okey

Thanks ^^

[lusty hinge]

no problem

[lucid dove]

@lusty hinge i found the msi mpg for 100€

Probably im going for that one, i think

Seems good

[heady arrow]

Which one should I pick

Someone who knows what they’re talking about please

And I don’t care about price so not the cheaper one

Or if anyone has any different suggestions

[ripe hornet]

AM4?

[heady arrow]

Not sure what that is , or if your even referring to my post

Lil clueless with some of this stuff mb

[mystic zephyr]

I would say use the Maximus if you want to overclock considering it has a bit more included for it but if not I would personally steer toward the strix. If you haven’t, you should go to the rog website and use their compare tool, most of the stuff is similar if not the same. Strix has more included for it general for casual builders but Maximus has more for over locking such as bios reset and q-led for diagnosing if there are problems.

[heady arrow]

Well haven’t done too much overclocking but I’d love to get into it so I think I will end up going with the Maximus that’s what everyone else has been telling me as well, but if you have any other suggestions for mobos around the some price that may be a little better I’d love to hear it, and what did am4 mean

[mystic zephyr]

I am always looking for decent mobos so I will tell you and am4 is an amd chipset so don’t worry about what he said unless you change from intel to amd

[heady arrow]

Well hopefully ordering tommorow , so if any ideas come to mind I’d be greatly appreciated , and if not is this gonna be somewhat future proofed for a i9 or 40 series thanks again.

[lusty hinge]

thats lga1200

(an irrelevant socket)

[lusty hinge]

neither of them lmfao

[lusty hinge]

bios reset? you mean... clearing cmos? the feature on...... every single motherboard ever?

[somber tartan]

can someone help me with mic i js bought new headphones

[lusty hinge]

#1047622297382567936

[rose bough]

At this point, I'm done waiting to do a full rebuild. Does anyone have a good suggestion for a MOBO compatible with an 8600K (I think it's coffeelake)?

[heady arrow]

Thts why I asked for different suggestions, so any?

[spiral anchor]

For games like gta5, rainbow six siege and rust what would be the best gpu?

[lusty hinge]

do you already have a 10th/11th gen intel cpu?

[lusty hinge]

a 4090

[heady arrow]

Yes i7-11700 , which I’m stuck with for now at least , plans to move to a i9 over the next year

[lusty hinge]

what i9 lol

i9 11th ?

[heady arrow]

I mean most likely

[lusty hinge]

whats this computer for

[heady arrow]

Just gaming

[lusty hinge]

why are you upgrading to another dead end cpu for marginal boosts

youre better off saving for current gen AMD or a 12th gen intel

[heady arrow]

Well when I upgrade to i9 I’m probably gonna get a new motherboard then , what should I get for now 🙏

[lusty hinge]

i9 11th gen?

waste of money getting a new board

[heady arrow]

No for my i7 , I need something for now I’m on a stock dell MOBO

[lusty hinge]

ehhh

ill take a look in a bit for you

busy a moment

[heady arrow]

Shiii no worries , just that was planning on doing it soon , would the XIII HERO not be a decent pick?

[lusty hinge]

are you in the US?

ill take some quick looks

ive got a moment free

[heady arrow]

Yes , thanks your the best

[lusty hinge]

did you need wifi

[heady arrow]

Sorry having trouble with my connection right now, but doesn’t need but it wouldn’t hurt

[lusty hinge]

awesome

ive got low signal myself

there are.. not very many decent boards

as in, the cheapest one (MSI MAG B560M MORTAR) is $250 as far as i can see

which is a waste of money when you consider a 7600/X is $190

or a 7500f for $130 and then some ddr5 ram for $95

[heady arrow]

Not to worried about price , if that changes anything

[heady arrow]

I’ll def take a look at those

[lusty hinge]

eh the idea is more so it becomes a waste of money when theres better options for cheaper/similar

for example, AM5

[heady arrow]

That’s exactly why I’ve had such a tough time picking one out I knew there were better options for cheaper, but if you had to pull the trigger on one today for me what would you pick

[lusty hinge]

ehhh

give me a moment ill look

[heady arrow]

Sorry to be such a pain lol I’m not the most knowledgeable when it comes to MOBOS

[lusty hinge]

i would probably go for the Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ELITE

its.. pricy

$277 from what i can see

but it has 3 m.2 nvme slots. would be 2 but you have a rocket lake cpu

the VRMs on it are alright

they could be better sure but theyre fine

theres no wifi connectivitiy on this board though

only wired

[heady arrow]

Sorry what are vrms and Ik your gonna clown me when I ask this but is there a HDD slot

And that’s okay I can always get a WiFi chip and throw it in no?

[lusty hinge]

there are 6 sata data ports yes

ill take a look

im not sure if its e-key is easily accessible, if it even has one. unless you're on about a pcie wifi card

no e-key so itll have to be a pcie card

[heady arrow]

Nah I’m just gonna Shutup and listen to you lmao f the WiFi

[lusty hinge]

VRMs are the voltage regulator modules

[heady arrow]

Ahhhh

Damn I think I’m about to pull the trigger on her

But definitely better than the XIII Hero?

[lusty hinge]

very expensive for lga1200

uhhh let me check

[heady arrow]

Lmao sorry 🙂

Honesty the hero was more expensive

[lusty hinge]

how much are you getting the xiii hero for?

[heady arrow]

260

Around there

Used but works

[lusty hinge]

xiii hero is better in feature-set but in terms of actual VRM capabilities its the same

personally i would go for the xiii hero if it doesn't look smashed up to bits

4 m-key slots, better rear io and wifi

its also a higher chipset

[heady arrow]

Mmmm okay thank you so much g I’d love to add you and show you how the build ends up

[lusty hinge]

go for it. feel free to post it in #1059414196858662923 too

[heady arrow]

The goat bro and real quick again sorry , does it need to come with any cords accessories that are needed because I think this is just the mobo by itself https://www.ebay.com/itm/256573469488?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mdtampa-Qai&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[lusty hinge]

i dont believe so. you may need to buy an M.2 screw

although you could also just borrow them from your board

[heady arrow]

You’ve been a huge help bro again I really appreciate it

[lusty hinge]

no problem

that listing states it'll come with the io shield (id hope so, considering its built in) and the original box

if wifi isnt necessary for you then its fine, but if you need wifi, you may need to buy the dongles to connect to the board

theyre universal, im not aware of asus using any weird proprietary stuff for that

im not sure if that listing will come with the dongle, thats all

[heady arrow]

I’ll keep that in mind

[heady arrow]

All ordered 😎 and I made sure to screenshot what u said in case

[lusty hinge]

thats awesome. hope its all good

[cunning radish]

how to completely reset our apex 7 tkl keyboard

[heady arrow]

I noticed when using a comparison tool that some of these other options were similar with crossfire comparability , is that worth a damn

[lusty hinge]

nope

crossfire is the AMD alternate to SLI

both have been long dead

very worthless

even when alive they were useless

[heady arrow]

The goat at it again…heard

[lusty hinge]

no problem 😊

[heady arrow]

Is it even worth it to use two gpus now adays

[lusty hinge]

no

[heady arrow]

Just looks cool

[lusty hinge]

you need very niche uses for it

like, very very niche

some people running AI are starting to shift towards multi-gpu but its not at all a performance uplift to them

i know 2x3090 is something i see somewhat often

[heady arrow]

Damnnn

[lusty hinge]

other than that.... its useless

its simply because a 4090 is super expensive

[heady arrow]

Ahhh true you think that’ll change anytime soon

[lusty hinge]

hmm

maybe with the release of 50 series + 6 months

[heady arrow]

Is that soon 😳

50 series wow I can only imagine

[lusty hinge]

its supposed to be soonish

[heady arrow]

Damnnnnn insane starting price finna be in the thousands

[lusty hinge]

haha definitely

[true cliff]

Hey guys (and gals)! I have a little bit of tech knowledge, but I'm new to building a PC (piecing one together in 1998 and building one now are night and day). I bought a new, cheap Cyberpower PC for $600 from Best Buy with Ryzen 5 5500 cpu and a Radeon RX 6500 XT (on a Prime 550 motherboard). It plays games great straight out of the box as long as I leave settings alone, but I'm worried that I won't be able to have the extra power to stream. Personally, the graphics don't have to be a million-K UHD to me, I just want everything to be smooth. So I did a benchmark and it said possible bottleneck due to the GPU (RX 6500 XT). So my problem comes in here... I don't know much about how to tell what is compatible with this and that, and I just want to upgrade my GPU to something a little more powerful but not overkill. Can I put a 7 series AMD GPU on that Ryzen 5 5500 and Prime 550 motherboard? Or is there a better option? OR... am I just an idiot that has his setting messed up? Also, if anyone has any advice AT ALL, about anything with my setup... please feel free to absolutely load me down and thank you! Thank you for your time, in advanced!!!

[flat frigate]

if you have the money id try not to buy a prebuilt pc

they are cheaper but building one yourself is much better

[brave robin]

who wants to buy me a pc a monitor some cords and show me how to set it up ?

[true cliff]

That's def what I should've done, but with it being my first time messing with it in 20 years, I assumed too much had probably changed. I would've never even thought to check the pcie compatibility on the motherboard to see if it was compatible with the gpu and stuff like that. Just saying that, I'm pretty sure I would've burned my house down. 🤣

[flat frigate]

depending on your budget id recommend a 40 series gpu because the 30 series are getting a little old, thats if you choose nvidia and theres obviously the cpu and motherboard, also ddr5 is what id recommend for memory and 16gb is alr

[lusty hinge]

ew

[lusty hinge]

budget, country, use case?

[flat frigate]

sybau

[lusty hinge]

you absolutely can put a 7000 GPU onto that motherboard. your PSU and case size is your restriction here.

[lusty hinge]

..?

[flat frigate]

what are you saying ew for

[lusty hinge]

because, ew.

[flat frigate]

you're ew

[lusty hinge]

aimless suggestion ddr5 is rubbish

and why 16gb of ddr5?

[flat frigate]

sybau

[lusty hinge]

still dont have a clue what that means lmfao

if youre gonna spit gibberish out, go for it.

also, avoid bottleneck calculators. @true cliff

[flat frigate]

learn yo acronyms

[lusty hinge]

im good

[flat frigate]

😂

[woven mural]

This is pretty poor advice on upgrading a prebuilt

especially financially

[woven mural]

The specs seem decent, good enough for 1080p gaming and probably streaming? You should try a test stream, just play your game and stream at 1080p 60hz for a while

Monitor on a second device how your stream flows, if there are any hardware related dips or performance issues.

Dont listen to bottleneck benchmarks. Most of the time they are inaccurate and just depends on use cases.

If you are suffering from performance issues, then yes you can upgrade. But please dont upgrade just because the bottleneck check said youre underperforming.

[heady arrow]

During Covid you could get some banger deals for a prebuilt

[lusty hinge]

^

if he plans on just 1080p gaming + hobbyist streaming then upgrading to a 40 series is pretty silly

also, the suggestion of 16GB DDR5 was pretty meh

a 6500xt isnt the best gpu but it should hold up

if he wants to just get a smaller & affordable but also noticeable performance upgrade, a 6750xt would be great (assuming US)

[woven mural]

Agreed, DDR5 is still a pretty poor choice even after it being out for so long

I would choose ddr4 over ddr5 any day just for price and performance

I havent had a case where I felt that my ram wasnt "fast" enough

just not enough capacity wise

[lusty hinge]

im assuming you are aware that DDR4 at certain price points is.. stupid

DDR5 is honestly not as bad as people make it out to be. granted it isn't as stable as DDR4 can be but you'll only really notice this if you try using 4 sticks of DDR5

[woven mural]

Yeah but there are a lot of factors that come into that. DDR5 is still fairly new and I still dont think its ready to confidently adopt imo

Im still on 4 sticks of overclocked ddr4 ram runing at 3600 and I have never felt a lack of performance from them

I do a bit of ram heavy stuff such as managing website databases and whatnot and its as quick as I would want it to be

Dunno about prices in US but ddr4 is now dirt cheap in AUS

[lusty hinge]

not many really move to DDR5 for performance uplift

it doesn't see one most of the time

its faster sure, but its latency and timings are higher

it performs a tad better than DDR4 at adequate speeds

[lusty hinge]

its like $23 for 2x8 in the US

[woven mural]

haha yeah thats pretty good

[lusty hinge]

both ddr4 and ddr5 are worthless the moment that new one i cant remember the name of releases 🔥

i remember now

camm2

pretty sure camm2 is looking rough but its okay because its camm2

[brave robin]

bro anything bro i just wanna run games smooth and not have to constantly blow ice by my low end pc so it wont blow up gng

[brave robin]

america

[brave robin]

bro any case gang lool

[flat frigate]

I don’t know much, I’m telling him to build his own

[leaden rampart]

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[pulsar fossil]

@uncut compass

[lusty hinge]

well, a budget would help. otherwise why not go for a 7800X3D and a 4090?

[uncut compass]

ja

[pulsar fossil]

Read the FAQ message above my comment

[brave robin]

ok but how much

bcz i dont have space

[brave robin]

like fivem and fortnite

[lusty hinge]

i really cant recommend anything without knowing your budget and target resolution

[woven mural]

So someone who doesn't know what they are talking about is telling someone else who doesn't know either to just "do it themselves"...

[flat frigate]

💀

[brave robin]

dm plz

[brave robin]

so ik im cheap but anything that can run me barely like under 1.5k

[heady arrow]

Any recs for an AIO is 240 worth or should I grab a 120

[lusty hinge]

a 120mm? no

240mm? meh

both get easily beaten or are on par with a good air cooler

frozen notte 360mm is like $60

aqua elite v3 is also $60 iirc

both 360mm

[lusty hinge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CYvch3
here.

kept it all black with a bit of rgb

it can easily be cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dDtb7R

cheaper

bonus points if you use aliexpress and buy a 7500f

[noble oak]

need a pc that can run gta fivem. and fortnite for cheap.. any recommendations ?? DM ME!

[lusty hinge]

budget, country?

[lucid dove]

How do u undervolt ryzen cpus? With curve optimizer?

@noble oak probably any amd apu will work

[noble oak]

Like 300-400 greece

[lusty hinge]

look on second hand sites such as Ebay and Facebook marketplace

[heady arrow]

I have a 240mm space on the top exsaust and I bought all the fans to fill in the rest, so kinda set myself up for a 240 , plus I’m a bit of a stickler and really wanna get a Asus aio to match the MOBO I think I found a decent one that’s not covered in RGB which like all aio are nowadays
But lmk if I fked up or if it’ll be fine enough https://a.co/d/9kIidV8

[lusty hinge]

oh god

100 dollars for 240

[heady arrow]

Don’t say that

[lusty hinge]

let me bless you

give me a moment

[heady arrow]

Asus 🙏

And no rgb or as little as possible 🙏🙏

[lusty hinge]

https://a.co/d/29t26Ti

[lusty hinge]

aqua elite v3 240mm

just turn rgb off using OpenRGB or SignalRGB

[heady arrow]

Damnnnn 40 bucks

That’s insane

[lusty hinge]

yup

and its not awful

[heady arrow]

No Asus Mr goat man

[lusty hinge]

theres also the frozen notte if youre into infinity mirrors

[heady arrow]

What is that btw I kept seeing that

Just like a infinite reflection

[lusty hinge]

https://a.co/d/1OgTfTO

[lusty hinge]

think this one is the wrong seller but you get the idea

[lusty hinge]

yeah basically

https://amzn.eu/d/deyERhU

they also have fans

[heady arrow]

Ahhhh , they can’t help themselves with this damn rgb now adays I could barely find a fan without it

[lusty hinge]

yup

but fortunately basically any modern rgb device is aRGB so you can configure it to your dreams

[heady arrow]

I’m all good with fans have 1 extra I ordered by accident

[lusty hinge]

yeah i assumed you were fine with fans. just fancied sharing them 🫣

[heady arrow]

But damn I really wanted a Asus I can’t believe how much more expensive they are

Thanks tho g

[lusty hinge]

ill take a look for some asus aios in a few minutes

[heady arrow]

Ahhhh ur the man

[lusty hinge]

but personally id just go with the thermalright ones

theyre cheaper and perform the same

[heady arrow]

I know I know it would’ve just matched the mobo better ima freak mb

[lusty hinge]

i will look for you though. ill @ you when ive done so

[heady arrow]

Thanks sir

Nah cause a 120mm Asus cooler is almost 150 bucks that’s insane

[outer spindle]

top of the day folks. almost done with my newest build. Lian Li dynamic evo XL case with the new EDGE 1300W PSU, ASrock Taichi CARRARA MB, AMD 7950X3D CPU, XFX RX 7900 XTX GPU, Kingston FURY 64GB 6600 DDR5 RAM, 3x Samsung 990 pro 4TB, 1x crucial T705 2TB, corsair cooling loop with 3x480 rads with 3xLX RGB 140mm fans, HYDRO X SERIES XD5 PUMP / RESERVOIR COMBO, iCUE XC7 RGB ELITE LCD CPU Water Block, all the fans and cooling with the ICUE Link system, ohh and 6x 4TB samsung 2.5" SSD. for data storage. waiting on a few cooling fittingsbut just about done....

[crimson scroll]

#1059414196858662923

[outer spindle]

missed the Alphacool Core RX 7900XTX Merc 310 with Backplate (13552)

[lusty hinge]

@heady arrowthis is about the only worthwhile 240mm aio by ASUS

insane price considering i can get a top performing aio for cheaper

[lusty hinge]

i HAVE to know why you chose half of these parts

[outer spindle]

because i did, try some new stuff, tired of the sameol'

not on a budget...

[lusty hinge]

yeah and i would like to know the reasoning behind those specific parts

and what are you using the pc for

[outer spindle]

umm what do ya mean? srry im autistic. explain why it maters.

[lusty hinge]

are you using it for gaming

[outer spindle]

gaming and astrophotography

data cranching ..

crunching

and i want to guarantee it stays cool..

[lusty hinge]

seems to be a large compile of rubbish overpriced parts put together

good job

[outer spindle]

yep.. i misered all my life... now im retired and gonna spend my money. i have no bills besides utilities.

[lusty hinge]

personally i would have spent my money on things that are actually good for the price but its whatevs

[outer spindle]

and an income of $3600/mth so..

can only eat out so often and i dont vaca in the hot spots

[lusty hinge]

4 sticks of DDR5

nice

[frozen iris]

i'm sure he'd be more informative if you didn't come off so derogatory lmfaooo chilll bruh be cool

[lusty hinge]

i dooooo not care

hes already bought it so its whatever

[frozen iris]

yeah but why not.. be nice?

[outer spindle]

hes jealous is all

[lusty hinge]

ha i wish i was jealous

i have a 7800x3d and a 4080 super lmfao

[frozen iris]

so hostile wow

@outer spindle cool build tho, shoulda gone with EKWB tho 😉

[lusty hinge]

should have changed many things

EKWB are actually pretty bad for the XTX models

[frozen iris]

i was joking, ur being anal af

[outer spindle]

EK has had its issues lately too, thats why i didnt go them

[frozen iris]

dang i just joined this discord 3 minutes ago, and i can tell exactly what's going on right now

somebody had a bad day and is taking it out on me and you zepplin, so i'm out

pce

[lusty hinge]

lmfao go for it

simply put, it could have been cheaper AND better.

[outer spindle]

every manufacture has pro's and con's i weighed them for what i wanted.

[frozen iris]

cheaper is relative btw, as in like he's not broke so it doesn't matter 😉

[outer spindle]

in the end if it doesnt perform the way i want ill redo it. im retired i have nothing else to do..

[frozen iris]

here's my baby girl tho, before i leave

[lusty hinge]

its not relative when you can get objectively better performing parts that cost the same or less

[frozen iris]

it is relative when cost doesn't matter, that's what relative means

[lusty hinge]

id be pretty pissed if i spent all that money on 4 sticks of ddr5

and a corsair LCD aio

[outer spindle]

i did the research, they all came out really close so i got what i wanted to trt..

[lusty hinge]

no hate to your build i imagine it still performs great

[outer spindle]

its not an aio

[frozen iris]

that's not an AIO, his CPU is in the loop

yo is the video I uploaded not working for yall? i click play and it's the same frame, discord bust it?

[outer spindle]

didnt see a vid..

[lusty hinge]

erm

my signal went that was weird

[outer spindle]

one of the key points for the Corsair was the Icue Link. gets rid of sooo many cords..

[lusty hinge]

yeah but then you open yourself up to icue

[lusty hinge]

daisy chain and hubs exist

[outer spindle]

that is true!!

[frozen iris]

let me know if that works, discord is being hella weird

[lusty hinge]

i can see video

[frozen iris]

does it work tho? it's 1 frame for me the whole time

[lusty hinge]

@frozen iriswhat gpu

yes viudeio works

[frozen iris]

i built it in 2022 so it's a 3080ti

[lusty hinge]

sexy

[frozen iris]

i have a 4090 and a waterblock sitting idle, just need to replace it already

[lusty hinge]

fair enough

[frozen iris]

all hard tubing, bent by me and my boy

[lusty hinge]

personally need an EVA 4090

[frozen iris]

was our first build, lots of hilarious memories trying to bend hard tube for the first time lmfao

[lusty hinge]

almost did buy one but figured id go with the white 4080S

i wish i chose a different model though

zotac stores all rgb to flash memory so its awful customisation

[frozen iris]

Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL ROG Tempered Glass
MB: ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E Gaming Wifi
CPU: i9 12900k OC'd xx EK-Quantum Velocity 2 Water Block D-RGB - Nickel/Plexi
RAM: 32GB X G.Skill Trident Z5 6600mhz
GPU: MSI Gaming X Trio 3080ti 12GB xx EK-Quantum Vector Trio RTX 3080/3090 D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi
Radi: 2 x EKWB 360 mm High-Performance Computer Water-Cooling Radiator
Fans: 4 x EK-Vardar EVO 120ER ++ 6 x Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax.Black
WC Pump: EKWB EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11D XL D5 PWM Distroplate

these are the specs if interested, somewhat dated now but really glad i didnt get 13/14 gen i9

[outer spindle]

i am going to redo this once the 9950X3D's and the new MB's come out anyways...

[lusty hinge]

why

[outer spindle]

this was a trial rig, ive always gone Asus,Nvidea and such, tring AMD for once

[frozen iris]

i'm not a fan of corsair stuff outside of AIOs, but i will say they are #1 in the industry for customer service & customer support, and i do envy that

so if you ever have any problems you will be 200% taken care of

[lusty hinge]

the customer service is great

[frozen iris]

ive only heard great things

[lusty hinge]

outside of that they are pretty rubbish

[frozen iris]

yeah you can't be great at everything and they're trying to, it is what it is tho

[lusty hinge]

they also made icue so i think that alone is enough reason to hate them 😹

[outer spindle]

yeah they have quickly replaced a few parts already or took my returns of what i didnt want. their universal GPU cooler is a joke..

[lusty hinge]

youd never catch me buying corsair

especially not RAM

[frozen iris]

yeah icue is a ram hog, thats why corsair aint in my builds anymore

[lusty hinge]

icue software actively harms your 1% lows

by a noticeable amount

[outer spindle]

i did find a coverter cable i can maybe use in the node hub i ordered

converter

[frozen iris]

i'm using aquasuite's controller the aquero and their FAN hub also

[lusty hinge]

nice

[lusty hinge]

hwinfo negs

gg

[outer spindle]

anyways, i may be happy with what i have, if not i'll research more and change what needs changing. in the end that 1% is soo negligable you would never notice it w/o the SW telling you. and its also in the silicon raffle if ya get good/bad. ambient temps play alot and over variables end up changing all the performance numbers.

over=other

[lusty hinge]

erm

consider asking here if you plan on changing anything

ill suggest you something nice 😉

[outer spindle]

i gave up on Intel and Nvidea products. gotta jump through hoops to get in contact with an actual person..

and i just retired from Intel lol

well 2 yrs ago

[lusty hinge]

intels alright

nvidia also

[outer spindle]

but spec/number/avg reviews all my stuff came out close to the others i was looking at

[lusty hinge]

im interested

what are the reviews youre actually looking at?

[outer spindle]

everything i could find.

i take everything and total it out then i avg it.

[lusty hinge]

i should probably apologise btw. your build is awesome, as i previously stated.
just get very silly over things and well, i can immediately tell it could be cheaper and better, but this is no issue.

[outer spindle]

wasnt taken personal.

[lusty hinge]

i am a huge tech nerd, if you ever need advice just message here

[lusty hinge]

consumer reviews?

oh yeah, and @frozen iris too. apologies

[outer spindle]

ill keep that in mind, but in the end everything works untill it doesnt. im not tring to squeeze every once out of stuff.

[lusty hinge]

nope not at all

[frozen iris]

all good in the hood

[lusty hinge]

you mentioned its for gaming.. have you tweaked the 7950x3d?

it infact performs worse than a 7800x3d

unless you disable half of its CCD and mess with its VID

[outer spindle]

youtube reviews, toms hardware, i dont rely on consumer reports cause i dont wanna pay for it for a one time use of the site...heh

[frozen iris]

also if it's for gaming, your motherboard will downclock your ram if you have 4 slots because MBs are not quad channel yet, so if you have 4 ddr5 sticks you'll get down clocked to 2933mhz I believe, if you use A1 and B1 you can use the full clock potential

[lusty hinge]

2933 nope

also nope on slots

[frozen iris]

i'm running ddr5 6600mhz, but when i tried to add 2 more, it downclocked me

[lusty hinge]

4800mhz is ddr5 jedec

[frozen iris]

huh

[lusty hinge]

also a2 b2 is usually the standard

[frozen iris]

2933 was ddr4 maybe

[lusty hinge]

as always refer to motherboard manual

ddr4 is 2133mhz

[frozen iris]

well, whatever the downlock mhz is, you won't be able to get full clock speed with 4 slots being used because of the dual channel limitations

[outer spindle]

i havnt finished yet to start it, so no tweeking of anything yet..

[lusty hinge]

nope

[outer spindle]

besides the MB and CPU are just till they iron out the 9950's and get a X3d out.

[lusty hinge]

too lazy to re-type lol

[outer spindle]

my Intel rig is here doing all sorts of weird crap waiting to get dismantled and sent in for RMA...

[lusty hinge]

i wouldnt blind buy a 9950x3d

[pulsar fossil]

using 4 slots is too hard on the cpu because of all **** you dont really need to care about if youre just a regular consumer

There you go ^

[lusty hinge]

thanks

[pulsar fossil]

yw

[lusty hinge]

i knew why it censored. got too lazy to retype.

its too complicated keeping track of the servers that allow or dont allow it!

[outer spindle]

i wont go in blind, all i can do is research and go with the info i can collect...

[lusty hinge]

id also wait like

3 months

for a price drop

might be 6 i cant remember

amd usually has a price drop after 3/6 months

[outer spindle]

yeah, no X3d till prolly xmas and mb's are a few months away too

[lusty hinge]

no need for a new motherboard

[outer spindle]

then wait till they iron out the kinks(BIOS) lol

[lusty hinge]

you should see how the 7500f holds up with bios support

its hit and miss

[outer spindle]

well anyways i did kinda jump into this build faster than i have in the past( main rig needs repair) and dont have a backup.

[lusty hinge]

fair enough

interesting you went for a custom loop

[outer spindle]

something new for me. always wanted one. and this is fun to tinker with..

[lusty hinge]

i respect it

ive had my fair share of custom loops

[outer spindle]

AIO's are fine and dandy but i live in AZ and dont keep my house all that cold due to rediculas cooling costs even with solar.

[lusty hinge]

not as if AIOs are massively better at cooling

[outer spindle]

so the ones ive implemented havent worked out the best. so i went as large of a loop i could..

[lusty hinge]

if at all better

your loop looks sick though

[outer spindle]

dying sick? get the plunger out..

[lusty hinge]

hows this

@pulsar fossil has seen this before 😉

[outer spindle]

kk the rest of my missing fittings just got here. finish this and get it pressurized. cleaned out of any stray debris i might have missed and to an UP state..

[lusty hinge]

😼

oh yeah

ordered this beast

random knock off strimer

tell me why id pay £60 when i can go on aliexpress and get the same thing for a tenner lmfao

just waiting till i pull the trigger on a 7500f + 7900 gre now

ah yeah. if anyone cares, theyre also killing production on the amd 66XX line of gpus

[outer spindle]

this is kinda why i went with corsair.. no major rats nest to deal with...

the 3 wires on the door are my lighting and fan control

[lusty hinge]

looks scuffed

personally i wouldve just gotten a fan hub and daisy chained my cables

(which is what i did)

[outer spindle]

yeah but then theres more to pack into the cubby

[lusty hinge]

probably about the same

what psu is that though

oh i see

[outer spindle]

i need to make some shorter PSU cables too, minimize the mess.

[lusty hinge]

shorter psu cables?

make??

[outer spindle]

yeah custom cables lol

shorter=neater

[lusty hinge]

cablemod says hi

[outer spindle]

they aRE TO EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT YA GET.

opps caps key

[lusty hinge]

i assume youre buying cable replacements

and not extentions

[outer spindle]

no. making my own..

https://mainframecustom.com/

[lusty hinge]

making your own is how you get a bomb

this makes more sense

[outer spindle]

been a mechanic all my life. ive rewired complete Mack trucks from scratch.. a PC case is easy...

[lusty hinge]

its noooot a pc case

[outer spindle]

its all in a case soo run with it heh

[lusty hinge]

fair enough

well

im not gonna stop you

[outer spindle]

anyways i got all the connectors, wire, terminals, the works for less than cablemod asks for a set. and i have alot of surplus for more rewirings

[lusty hinge]

why not https://www.dreambigbyray.com/ ?

[outer spindle]

umm, first ive heard of them...

in the end i like doing things with my own hands. that way i know its right..

[lusty hinge]

fair

[outer spindle]

ill end up testing all my parts sooner or later anyways. ohh after i blew my back out i went back to school for bachlors electronic enineering..

[heady arrow]

I mine as well get the 90 dollar one tbh then

[lusty hinge]

could you.. send it again?

im on mobile dont particularly fancy scrolling for it

[heady arrow]

Me?

[lusty hinge]

yes

[heady arrow]

Ye one sec

[outer spindle]

so i have a full set of mechanic (handsaws-excavators)tools and electronics lab in my house.

[lusty hinge]

awesome

[heady arrow]

https://a.co/d/do6BZFi

[outer spindle]

i am the apidimy of do-it yerselfer. maybe some bad decisions on stuff but i can FIX it.

just dont mess with stuff under warrenty..

[lusty hinge]

yeah, its an alright aio. expensive but im sure youre aware

[outer spindle]

also my choices for stuff was im from exclusively been ASUS,Nvidea, Intel for the last 2 decades..

so this not any of those manufactures, im at a loss and will do the best i can..

my issues arnt money or performance but relyabilty..

[heady arrow]

I know really am just paying for the brand name and for the sake of matching atleast the most noticeable components

[outer spindle]

those have been very reliable for me the last years, now they are all failing in big ways.. so time to brach out.

butr yes most of the time reliable costs...

id rather spend more now and KNOW i wont have to mess with it untill its time to upgrade.....

[heady arrow]

Asus AIO?

[lusty hinge]

yeah go for it if youd like then

[outer spindle]

not the AIO, the produts lines in general. most of what they make is gr8 but i have issues with their MB's coming in with CPU pins bent lately..

[lusty hinge]

asus in the US if anything is bad

their customer support is awful

[outer spindle]

before i went with the ASRock i had recieved a messed up MB and i dint want to wait for me to return it, them to recieve it and look at it then send me another one..

but that was the first time ive ever had to replace anything before i decided to get it upgraded. i love their monitors and MB's all around. the AIO i have has been perfect.

ive had this for 2 years sofar w/o issues... https://rog.asus.com/us/cooling/cpu-liquid-coolers/rog-ryujin/rog-ryujin-iii-360-argb-white-edition/

[lusty hinge]

awfully overpriced aio

[lyric veldt]

NZXT 360mm AIO CPU Liquid Cooler with Customizable LCD Display, High-Performance Pump, 3 Fans - Black

180$

[outer spindle]

everything is over priced. i just can ignor the price and go with what i like or works better or on some of the stuff i got with my new rig just bad choice lol

ok NZXT had a large batch of bad fluid AIO's that got recalled.. why i didnt go with them...

list stuff and ill give why i didnt get it heh

the ASrock tiachi Carrara was list as having some of the best specs at a low cost than the other top dags

i was gonna go with the "GODLIKE" butr even for me that would be a waste of meny heh

mony

med time. l8r. ill shout out in here before i do my next build or looking for replacement parts.

[lusty hinge]

no

[outer spindle]

thnx for the info though...

[lusty hinge]

not true

thermalright exists

[outer spindle]

ackk real quick. i need a pinout of the new Lian LI EDFGE PSU's. anyone know where i can find one? if not ill take it apart and figure it out myself..

[lusty hinge]

christ uhhh

i think ill be able to find you one

cant promise anything

[outer spindle]

EDGE PSU's. 1300w one to be precice

they are brand new , i cant find asnything yet..

[lusty hinge]

ive got one for the 750 and 850

1300 not so sure

[outer spindle]

the EDGE?

[lusty hinge]

cannot find one for the edge 1300

[outer spindle]

they look like an L heh

[lusty hinge]

very interesting internals on it though

[outer spindle]

german caps!! i do hope they surpass the jap ones

[lusty hinge]

yup

[outer spindle]

i did look up the componant specs. they sound gr8

[lusty hinge]

german epcos for the bulk capacitors

big boys

[outer spindle]

the actual work horses..

just a FYI, i grew up with oil filled caps. ( im old)

[lusty hinge]

epic

[outer spindle]

worst case i can just copy the existing cables just make shorter ones...

[lusty hinge]

that works

[outer spindle]

ohh it just hit me(autistic) ive been a stuck to certain manufatures for a long time(A@#S) for lighting lol..

so the Corsair isnt that much of a problem for me

i can figure out an adaptor wire if i really want too..

[lusty hinge]

just use OpenRGB

[outer spindle]

i can even build my own strips if needed. i have a full electronics lab here.

they only use the needed 2 wire config, others are 3 pin. shouldnt be hard to find the wiring for those.

[lusty hinge]

standard 5v 3 pin argb 🥰

[outer spindle]

yes, but ARGB only needs 2 wires to control them

[heady arrow]

If I have a set of two sticks of ram can I get another set that’s a different brand

[lusty hinge]

yes but no

[outer spindle]

depends on the 3pin rgb diode on how its connected to the others..

hang on let me show ya something. need to take a pic of it running.. back in a few mins

[lusty hinge]

if you tried mixing ram you may get lucky and have it work. you will be extremely limited and you will very likely experience issues

majority of the time itll just throw you a dram error

[outer spindle]

a project from back in my electronic associates degree..

[lusty hinge]

nice infinity mirror

[outer spindle]

gotta finish the outer frame. only been 18 years lol

[lusty hinge]

"only"

[outer spindle]

if i can do that i can figure out a few wires for a chained strip

[lusty hinge]

yup

be very cautious

[outer spindle]

maybe even add an adruino micro if needed.

will all be tried on a test bench..

[lusty hinge]

thank god

was hoping youd mention it

[outer spindle]

before implemenmting

[lusty hinge]

didnt wanna seem pushy and suggest it

[outer spindle]

all good brothyer..

[lusty hinge]

sent you a friend request

[outer spindle]

got it

[lusty hinge]

very interested in your end result

[outer spindle]

ill send ya pics/info once i get it figured out..

[lusty hinge]

i assume youre smart enough to just not unalive yourself. so very happy to wait for these cables

[outer spindle]

lol, the power consumtion of a test set up will be the 5 volts at maybe .25 watts

easy to control with a programable power supply( benchtop)

[lusty hinge]

awesome

youre fully prepared great to see

saw some guy ages ago in another place who wanted to brutalise his psu and cables for... some reason?

had no existing knowledge and hadnt any plan on how to stay safe

[hardy star]

I wish I had one of those PCs you guys have, they are awesome as heck

[outer spindle]

hey looky what i found... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JLSFPRM/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A2US7GLDHPFAYV&th=1. these should do nicely for what i have planned..

@hardy star yeah but sometimes they just are too over the top and just turn into money pits. like a car(motorcycles) yer always adding mods too. wait i DO that. ugg

[outer spindle]

been an hour @ 7PSI so should be good for no leaks. now to let the sys conditioner do its work for a dayish..

[lusty hinge]

can confirm i have both a bike and expensive pc

its a lot of money

[pulsar fossil]

Don't spam. Obviously

[hardy star]

Guys I have a question if you don't mind me asking since I have barely any experience with building PCs

If I decide to custom build a Gaming PC + setup, what are your personal recommendations?

[pulsar fossil]

That's a crazy wide question

But figure out what your needs are and what your budget is

[outer spindle]

whats yer budget?

@hardy star whats yer budget and what CPU manufacture do you prefer?(RN INTEL is having lotsa issues TBH)

RGB, non-RGB, AIO(all in one) CPU cooler, and such..

then depending on the Case you can have custom monitoring screens instead of on unit ones.....

[crude totem]

what games do you play? what games do you want to play?

[outer spindle]

lol and the list continues.

[pulsar fossil]

It's kinda like asking "which car should I get?" 😅

[outer spindle]

right!!

i saw a HDR monitor that fits the front on the o11 DEXL front panel perfectly. might get that at some point..

[lusty hinge]

country?
budget in your currency?
use case?
intended resolution?
do you own anything already?
any aesthetic preferences?
any interest in overclocking?
wifi?

[lusty hinge]

i wouldnt ask on preferences

[outer spindle]

just my need to get parameters autism. stuff i need or my brainage goes haywire and goes everywhere. i get to giving suggestions they will be all over the place..

[lusty hinge]

fair enough

[hardy star]

Well I play Roblox because I can't access high end games at the moment, such as Valorant, CS2, Call of Duty, and Battlefield

[hardy star]

I just need like an estimate and personal reccomendation. The country I live in is Canada, and it's Canadian Dollar, and the only thing I have is an ASUS laptop which can't download much tbh

[hardy star]

ty bro

[lusty hinge]

well thats pretty unhelpful

otherwise why not just go for a 7800X3D and a 4090

[meager topaz]

hi, graphic card gigabyte geforce rtx 4060 ti gaming oc 16g is is good?

[lusty hinge]

define good

because it is typically incredibly mediocre

@meager topaz

[hardy star]

I will send my laptop specs and I want to hear your opinions on what should I upgrade

[meager topaz]

i need a gaming pc and i need an amazing performance

[lusty hinge]

well it depends

upgrade as in, build a pc?

[lusty hinge]

country and budget

[meager topaz]

you dont wanna know my country, trust me

[lusty hinge]

that is the most counter-productive answer i have ever seen

[hardy star]

Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4020 CPU @ 1.10GHz 1.10 GHz
Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.83 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Edition Windows 11 Home
Version 22H2

It's a ASUS laptop, a Notebook, and idk what graphics card it uses

[lusty hinge]

i specifically asked for your country, of course i want to know it

[meager topaz]

and budget is 1,600$

[meager topaz]

israel

[lusty hinge]

n4020 is integrated graphics iirc

[lusty hinge]

whats your budget in your currency

[hardy star]

Ok ty bro, but what do you recommend I upgrade on this? The currency I use is Canadian Dollar.

[meager topaz]

6000 shekels

[hardy star]

No offense but isn't that a lot?

[meager topaz]

6000 shekels?

is 1,600$

[hardy star]

um yea?

oh

btw i intended nothing negative

[lusty hinge]

its very difficult to upgrade a laptop, you do know that?

as in youre looking at storage and ram upgrades and thats about it

[meager topaz]

all good

[lusty hinge]

what sites do you use in israel

[hardy star]

Well it's the only thing I have, and besides, my maternal uncle has expertise with this stuff so I can ask for his assistance

[hardy star]

oh ok

[lusty hinge]

you may be able to frankenstein the laptop but yeah theyre very limited

[meager topaz]

idk😅

[lusty hinge]

what site were you looking at the 4060 ti on

[meager topaz]

oh, google

[hardy star]

Lol ok ty for your advice and opinion brother

I will send a pic here when I get it upgraded

[cedar jungle]

Anyone got any prebuilt pcs that’ll run rust for about £800-£950?

[lusty hinge]

https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/ultra-r55-elite-gaming-pc youre getting seriously ripped off though

no UK prebuilts are good in the £700-1000 range

[cedar jungle]

I originally play console

So I have no idea what I’m looking at

[lusty hinge]

well, i can help

i know your budget and country

is this just for gaming?

[cedar jungle]

Ye

[lusty hinge]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3tT6Cd

£950.21

[spiral yew]

suggest some best gaming laptop under $2000

[lusty hinge]

holy

why a laptop

@spiral yew are you in the US? what games? why a laptop?

you could consider a SFF desktop if you wanted something small

or mATX in the A3 case

[noble oak]

oh dear god, i couldn't imagine win11 on 4 gigs of ram

[novel delta]

I’ve had something similar with Win10 on my first PC that I was given. Turned out it had laptop components inside it. Boy I’m so glad I moved past that.

[lusty hinge]

laptop components on a desktop?

[novel delta]

Yeah, I know. Imagine my face when I discovered it. It was a old(?) desktop build gaming pc (if you could call it that) my dad had gotten me.

My friend (who has way more experiences with computer builds) literally said: "veah this is a build, but it clearly was someone's first build. Look at this wiring..."

And later he remarked:
"No wonder it performed like that. The memory and ram are from a laptop! Half of the components can't even keep up with the graphics card (which was ok but aged)"

Luckily, we discovered it right as we were building my new pc, which I spared no expense on, it was also the moment I fell in love with Steelseries!

[lusty hinge]

well no component can keep up with another component

very interesting though

[novel delta]

Well, I mean it more in a comparison: imagine you got a super high end computer but you’re using a CRT TV. Won’t improve much quality.

But in my defence that was years ago and I’ve long moved on (it helps when you got a job, lol)

[lusty hinge]

fair enough

[noble oak]

I actually wanna get a decent CRT to watch older animes on

[novel delta]

As someone who grew up with a CRT I can see the appeal.

[noble oak]

yeah same

[latent plank]

nzxt

[lusty hinge]

why

thats such a bad recommendation

[latent plank]

not really

runs 300 frames on siege n like 200 on rust

atleast the last time i played rust

like 2 or 3 years ago

[lusty hinge]

nzxt is overpriced

i wouldn't bother with prebuilts in that price range anyway tbf

[latent plank]

?

👨‍🦯

[lusty hinge]

well, not you. you're not the one buying

but UK prebuilts at the price point hes asking for are generally.. rubbish

[latent plank]

nzxt has a player one

high end of 800

[lusty hinge]

hm. could you link it?

i just want to confirm we're looking at the same thing.

[latent plank]

yeah i think they allow links

[lusty hinge]

yes

i send links here often

[latent plank]

https://nzxt.com/product/player-one

$829 american

646 pound google says

[lusty hinge]

interesting

considering its a low cost, i didnt expect much. this is, if anything, worse than what i expected.

[latent plank]

haha

[lusty hinge]

i mean no offense to you, if you own it. @latent plank

[latent plank]

i have better

[lusty hinge]

however it is pretty poorly made

[latent plank]

the specs?

[lusty hinge]

a 13400f is susceptible to degradation which can simply break your CPU.

3050 is easily one of the worst gpus ever released in P/P

there is no actual specification on the SSD or PSU used

and 16GB of DDR5 is simply rubbish

[latent plank]

ur just on a high horse

[lusty hinge]

as i said, it isnt specific.

no

i am not

16GB of DDR5 is objectively awful. its much slower than 2x16

even bad 2x16 is better than 2x8 or 1x16

[latent plank]

as long as you arent running a high performance video game and 40 tabs of google chrome it does fine for anything you need

[lusty hinge]

of course, it will run

i never denied that

but it is a very bad spec list, at least a partial one. half of it isnt mentioned

the PSU is what i am most concerned about

they aren't model specific

im not sure if you'll know this, but some PSUs have certain tendencies to just, explode.

like, literally explode.

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

i am not by any means a professional, but i know my stuff.

[latent plank]

yeah bro

fs

[lusty hinge]

for 800USD you could simply get better

lets put it that way

[proud dune]

2-Year Warranty Included

[latent plank]

🤷‍♂️

[lusty hinge]

right?

[latent plank]

tbf there aint a warranty on a house

[cedar jungle]

Any idea if this will be able to run rust and similar games

[latent plank]

😂

[lusty hinge]

exactly.

you may have insurance on your things

[latent plank]

but ive had my nzxt for 3 years and havent had an issue

[lusty hinge]

but personally, i dont want an explosive in my house.

[lusty hinge]

no no! i think we've had a misunderstanding

im not by any means hating on NZXT

[latent plank]

with the psu in my nzxt is what im sayin

[lusty hinge]

it depends on the PSU used. obviously any PSU could explode if it really wanted to do so, but some are more expected to do so

[proud dune]

oh yeah i forgot 'm not in the USA, houses here are made of non-flammable material

[lusty hinge]

NZXT has their own lineup of PSUs, the C series. the C750 and C850 are probably one of the best available 850 and 750w supplies on the market.

[cedar jungle]

Which one?

[lusty hinge]

hey, neither am i.

i can tell you're joking but its silly

power supply units are a very important part and should be very carefully considered

[latent plank]

its not listed on nzxt anymore, but i have a 3060, wit a ryzen 5 3600

[lusty hinge]

yes.

[proud dune]

i was not joking actualy. i didn't even think about the house being at risc

[lusty hinge]

it is a very poor choice of board, dont expect an upgrade path.

[latent plank]

on player one you can switch the cpu to a ryzen 5 7500f which is closer to mine

[lusty hinge]

thats alright then. it is a very real issue.

[cedar jungle]

Decent frames?

[lusty hinge]

depends. what are you expecting at what resolution and settings?

[cedar jungle]

Medium

[latent plank]

arent the insides decently flammable tho

you must have carpet or somethin right

[lusty hinge]

1080p? itll run acceptable frame rates. should be around the 100 marker if im not mistaken.

are you open to buying and building your own PC?

[cedar jungle]

I have no knowledge on building but it’s not exactly hard is it?

[lusty hinge]

no, there are plenty of guides i can link you to if needs to be.

[crimson scroll]

20 years ago, hard

[lusty hinge]

it is almost like legos

[crimson scroll]

today, legos

it's hard to mess up

[lusty hinge]

youd be surprised with what i see

if you follow the manuals, it is hard though.

go off the rails and yeah, youll probably mess up

[proud dune]

we dont use those here (Brazil), at least its not common

[cedar jungle]

Look dms if u can

[lusty hinge]

i can look. i would prefer to keep it here if thats fine with you though, i get a lot of DMs

@cedar jungle of course i can. i spend a lot of my time giving out advice about PCs.

i do need to ask a few questions beforehand

[cedar jungle]

Perfect if you don’t mind send the links to DMs so it’s all saved?

[lusty hinge]

of course.

what country are you in? what's your budget in your currency? any interest in overclocking? any aesthetic preferences?

[cedar jungle]

UK £1000 maybe some RGB but not a lot not too bothered about overclocking

[lusty hinge]

awesome

[proud dune]

it'll run rust in medium to even high settings, since arcA750 works like rtx3060, 16gb at 3200mhz its good, but if you are a multitasker it is good to have at least 32gb

[lusty hinge]

what about overclocking?

[pulsar fossil]

I like Brazil, the Rainbow Six fans go wild there 🤩

[cedar jungle]

Not too sure tbh

[lusty hinge]

ill assume no then

[cedar jungle]

Sure lol

[lusty hinge]

give me a moment to take a look