💻-building-a-pc

[spring agate]

[warped scaffold]

[crimson scroll]

Incorrect

This is very region specific

[spring agate]

[spring agate]

it's actually quite sad that NA customers get screwed over the most

while it's a different story over here in EU, as long as you have the original bill of purchase you're totally covered, even if you bought it used

You can also transfer it if it's personally assigned to you, like registered devices on a manufacturers website. All it needs is a predetermined paperwork you can download everywhere, fill in and hand it over to whoever you sold the good

and before you ask, yes, that paperwork is enough to win the case in front of a court if a manufacturer decides to fight it

[crimson scroll]

i'm aware of EU restrictions

it's just very misleading, some of what you're saying

and berry is correct, your insistence to always be correct is irritating

[spring agate]

my 6800 XT finally came back from RMA

well, they sent me a new one actually

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nicee

[weary flame]

:O
Lesgoooo

Which case is that?

[spring agate]

Define 7

[weary flame]

Ah, nice

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?

[nocturne folio]

Lel

[quartz path]

Anyone

[weary flame]

?

[ruby sinew]

Radeon or Nvidia that is the dilema i am facing. My 1070ti went bang so i bought a cheap amd6600eagle to get me through till i was cashed again. But the 6600 has impressed me now i cant decide wether to go for a high end radeon card or a 3080 any sugestions

[weary flame]

Price and do you want things like DLSS and RT

Price as in, your price range

[ruby sinew]

1300 to 1500 australian

[weary flame]

Oh, Australian

This has become

Interesting

Aussie has weird pricing

[ruby sinew]

i paid about 400 for the 6600

[weary flame]

That's pretty much it

Lemme see

Anyway

Can you answer the DLSS/RT thing?

[ruby sinew]

i want all the bells and whistles

[weary flame]

Okay

So

4070 isn't bad then

It's currenty gen

[ruby sinew]

im running an i9 on a z490 board with 32gb ram

[weary flame]

And actually a good buy?

[weary flame]

i9 is the type of product more than the actual name

Anyway

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#X=0,151491&c=516,505,550,549&sort=price&page=1

Here

Aussie pricing

The 4070 is very good, and not too far off from the 3080, further it's also cheaper and way more efficient

[ruby sinew]

yeah i do like the 70 series nvidias

[weary flame]

Look over the list

Check if it fits in your case

Well, 4070 tends to be a lot smaller

[ruby sinew]

anyway thx for the advice

[weary flame]

Np

You can go for the 4070ti or 4080
But it's more expensive

And the 4070 is really good for it's price

[ruby sinew]

i havent used a radeon card since the7970

[weary flame]

If you want all the gopod stuff

Radeon RT has come far, but it's still not there

[ruby sinew]

the 4070 is close to2grand here

[weary flame]

That's Aussie part picker

It's in Aussie prices

Anyway, you can go 4070ti, but it's at least 200 more compared to the cheapest 4070ti, 300 is more common

[ruby sinew]

yeah the prices have come down a bit 1200 for the 4070 i think that will be me

[weary flame]

All these are under 1.1k?

[spring agate]

z490: LGA 1200: 10th and 11th gen: PCIe 3

so the lower end AMD cards won't run at its fullest

[ruby sinew]

10850

[weary flame]

?

Oh, the CPU?

Also, I see where I went wrong, ignore the image >_>

I, personally, don't think the 4070ti upmark is worth it
Especially not if you somewhat want to spare money

[spring agate]

1.4k? You sure he can't go with a 4080?

[weary flame]

nope

They are all over 1.5

Quite a lot more than 1.5

[spring agate]

and yes, the 4070 Ti/4080 12 GB is a joke not worth buying

[ruby sinew]

i could go 2090 for that

[weary flame]

That's not what I said

[ruby sinew]

im using a samsung 27in odysey monitor 2k

[spring agate]

it is a joke tho and i'm not recommending it at all

[weary flame]

Oh, okay

[ruby sinew]

im just curious what the amd high end card are like

[weary flame]

Anyway, you can go 4070ti, but it's at least 200, but generrally 300 bucks more
And that's not little

[weary flame]

4090 beats everything's ass

[spring agate]

didn't you say you want all the blows and whistles?

[ruby sinew]

of course it does its the pinacle at the moment

[weary flame]

The 7900 XT(X) are quite nice

Imo, nicely priced for flagships and performance

But they're just not as good

[spring agate]

XTX > XT

[weary flame]

And frame gen + DLSS 3 is really good

[spring agate]

but Berry's right, they're not that good

[weary flame]

sorta a given

They shouldn't have called one the XT and the other the XTX

[ruby sinew]

yeah i think i will go back to nvidia

[spring agate]

7950 and 7900 XT?

it's already quite confusing with their CPU line

[ruby sinew]

i agree

[spring agate]

7900X is their CPU, add a T to it and bam, it's their GPU

anyways, if you don't care about Raytracing you can get away with an AMD

if you do... well, there's only NV to pick from then

[weary flame]

I mean, the 7000 GPU series is quite nice for RT, it's better than last gen quite nicely

[ruby sinew]

all i really play is bf2042 and bf4

[weary flame]

But it'sd far from as good

Especially if you add DLSS 3 and frame gen

[spring agate]

not sure about frame gen, it's a double edged sword imo

for single player definitely a nice thing

[weary flame]

They fixed the UI issue

And it's so much better now

[weary flame]

Is frame gen even in multiplayer games?

[spring agate]

highly doubt it

[weary flame]

Same

[spring agate]

there aren't even many multiplayer games supporting RT

[weary flame]

Things like DLSS are mainly in singplayer too

And iirc, frame gen relies on DLSS 3, no?

[spring agate]

i think so, yes, unsure if it doesn't. My 4090 for testing didn't arrive yet

so i can't tell for sure

[weary flame]

I thik it does, but I don'tg have a 40 series

I got a 3070 for under 300 before the crash >_>

[spring agate]

would be funny to find out you can activate frame gen seperately

well, i got my 6800 XT back from RMA

and a bunch of 6950 XT OC Formula for binning rn

[weary flame]

Yeah, but I still sorta doubt it

[spring agate]

also a 3080 Ti Galax somewhere in my basement, idk where exactly xD It's somewhere in my storage tho

[weary flame]

How many cards do you havE?

[spring agate]

too many <_<

collecting GPUs since the 590 came out

[weary flame]

Which one do you not have?

[spring agate]

cards i deem not worth buying and the rare stuff

like an Asus Mars

tried to buy one back then, but it was sold before i was able to scrap the money together for one

and finding one nowadays is like finding a unicorn

i should liquidate my storage of 1080 Ti's tho...

[weary flame]

Asus Mars?

[spring agate]

Asus Mars II

to be exact

[weary flame]

You'd def get a lot of money

[spring agate]

well, i have at least 30 different models of them here?

ranging from the common reference PCB ones to the high end 3x8 Pin Galax HoF editions

[weary flame]

THat's a lot

[spring agate]

what shall i say? They were cheap back then

700 bucks MSRP?

why not

[weary flame]

"cheap"

[spring agate]

compared to their performance they were cheap

[weary flame]

Oh, it's a dual card
Nice

[weary flame]

True, true

For how much would you sell one?

[spring agate]

depends on the model

[weary flame]

Fair point, ngl

[spring agate]

however, the Galax HoF and EVGA KP will stay, that's for sure xD

[weary flame]

Oh yeah, I'd never sell those

Especially with EVGA gone

[spring agate]

sadge...

[weary flame]

Yup...

I really wanted an EVGA card
But I settled for a second hand Gigabyte one

I really needed one >_>

[spring agate]

i hope vince finds something worthy of his skills

[weary flame]

He'll def do motherboards

I sorta want to get one of theirs for AM5

[spring agate]

like, that biforkation of the z790 PCIe 5 lanes is kinda insane

you can literally set a card down in the lower slot and still get x16 directly to the CPU

like wtf

[weary flame]

yup

[spring agate]

but that biforkation is insanely expensive

[weary flame]

You mean that switch on the motherboard, no?

I'm a bit confused

Sorry >_>

[spring agate]

yep, the PCIe lane switches

[weary flame]

Yeah

That shit's cool

[spring agate]

glad we found some common ground to talk about :>

[weary flame]

:3

[spring agate]

[weary flame]

But yeah

Those boards

Are so freaking cool

[spring agate]

but freaking expensive as well

[weary flame]

Yeah

I mean

Seen uh

Which one decided their top end board being 1.2k+ being normal was a good idea?

Oh

MSI

MSI this gen has lost it

[spring agate]

i LOVED the SOC Force line from Gigabyte, but damn, did they screw up on the Z170 and later on

[weary flame]

Cheapest I can find, in the benelux, is 935, but the median is 1.4k

It used to be 2.1k

This is for the AM5 board

And the uh, ASRock Taichi is the cheapest high end board

[spring agate]

because it's specifically made for content creators. But here's the kicker. Just buy a normal 400 bucks board, get your DAC and other equipment and you're still off cheaper than buying the board

[weary flame]

For like, ~600

[weary flame]

No, this is the "Godlike" their more EOC board

I can't actually name anyone that I know that does that
And got a Godlike that MSI didn't send

[spring agate]

Taichi xDDD I had 3 AssRock boards in my entire life and they all sucked

Z97 OC Formula was kinda nice?

[weary flame]

I like this board actually

[spring agate]

but the USB fuses were a pain in the ass

Biostar...

[weary flame]

Fair, I haven't heard bad stuff about it for the 7000 series

[spring agate]

[weary flame]

It looks nice, okay?

[spring agate]

yeah, but i doubt the quality and features available in the BIOS

[weary flame]

Actually not angsty emo barf, unlike a certain brand with ass in it's name

[weary flame]

Yeah, fair point

[spring agate]

which one? AssUs or AssRock?

[weary flame]

Not bad IO, wished more USB C tho

[weary flame]

Oh god
Good point actually

It's Asus

It's just

Going over it

[spring agate]

the USB-C ports are something i'm complaining about for years by now

[weary flame]

Also just noticed no thunderbolt

[spring agate]

especially since everything goes USB-C nowadays

[weary flame]

bruh

[spring agate]

oh lol, it really has no thunderbolt

[weary flame]

It's one of my several complains
Like the 10 pin board (btw, this is where the 5V confusion came from a week or so ago, i'll say after this)
SIDEWAYS plugs, please;, give me them, they're just superior
The 7 bar error code things LED has to be basic in every board that's at least B series

And other thigns too

A lot

[spring agate]

what pisses me off is the disappearance of dual BIOS and switches

mem training is extremely annoying with an auto switch dual BIOS

[weary flame]

Anyway, the 5V thing, i was confusing with the 24 pin
Which, it as it's uses, but board have been able to change 12V to things like 3.3 and 5V for a good time

[weary flame]

Dual BIOS switches are amazing

Until you end up like Nvidia where your OC is so limited when you are not on the highest end of the GPU's

I also feel motherboards need some, changes?

Mainly in relation to trace distances

But that's more difficult

[spring agate]

true, that's why i loved the 1080 Ti, in terms of overclocking it was just insane

2k core clock and 6k mem clock boosted?

HELL YEAH

[weary flame]

That's nutty

I do have to admit

While not the die itself

Memory has become more sensitive

And the amount of power we are putting through it, take just DDR5, it becomes
More difficult to tune it as finely

Also, GDDR7 coming next gpu gen
With stacked memory dies

[spring agate]

ngl, it'd be nice to see you on the GN server

[weary flame]

I don't have the financial capability

I do really want to

[spring agate]

it doesn't take even take much. Just subscribe for a month on patreon, grab the link and cancel the subscription after that month. I don't subscribe to their patreon for ages now and still am there

[weary flame]

There are more difficulties than that

[spring agate]

oh, ok

[weary flame]

But yeah

I do want to

[spring agate]

i highly doubt nVidia will go for it given how limited their VRAM is rn. The 12 GB on their 4070/Ti will become an issue next year just like the 3070 having issues rn

[weary flame]

Imo

The 12GB thing

Is bullcrap

Can I say that?

I can

Anyway, it shouldn't be

I'm not gonna play a game that requires that much to run in basic

It's something else if I tune it to that

[spring agate]

it will tho. LoU Part 1 was a bad port, sure, but it's just 1 of many to come

[weary flame]

Anyway, the stacked dies is doubling per slot iirc, so 4GB
And it's faster too

[weary flame]

I still feel this isn't because of Nvidia and their limits on vram

This is on studios not giving a f*ck

[spring agate]

i would love to see AMD stacking their Dies tho, ngl

[weary flame]

They used to have to optimise
Now they just, don't?

[spring agate]

well, true

[weary flame]

Like, look at COD

[spring agate]

MH Rise was also an awful port at the beginning

[weary flame]

Their games used to be optimised
Now just not

And then you have studios who say "We will need extra time to optimise and fix things"
and then you get a Cyberpunk

[spring agate]

it all comes down to 1 point down the line: Profit

[weary flame]

It's a really good game
After all the fixes

[spring agate]

fast port means they can sell it quicker

[weary flame]

Or the infinite procedural generation thing

[weary flame]

and then they still take over several months to get the port out /s

[spring agate]

i don't get why most studios use their own engines anyways. Konami has their RedEngine, ok, fine. That one worked insanely well tbf, but UE5 i.e. even has an automatic port process optimizing the game for consoles and PCs in one go

[weary flame]

So

UE5

Is a pain to code in

[spring agate]

true

[weary flame]

Which is really it

[spring agate]

but still, it works insanely well

[weary flame]

I saw several game devs of big studios, Respawn and Bungie for one, talk about it

And the hassle to remake their games in that, or to even develop their games in that is big enough that they have, generally, not deemed worth it

And this was the devs, not just managment

I did hear UE6 has a focus more on making it friendlier for studios to do this stuff

So that's good

However, this also makes a commonality breach more likely, and as such not only knocking possibly dozens, if not hundreds of games offline, it could easily breach the studios, and the secret information (not things like leaks etc) they hold

[spring agate]

i mean a chinese created a multiplayer game just using the logic connection in UE5 with no experience whatsoever, so uh... idk

i think it's quite complicated for those used to program games in a traditional way

[weary flame]

No

That's not really it?

It's that they need a sort of interface in the middle generally

Which is an issue too

It's a lot more complicated

And a lot is about coding

But also the massive investments they need

[spring agate]

by all honesty, that's their fault in such a case. I'm running a business solely focused on cyber security and you'd be shocked how many companies simply ignore their security

they're like: It runs? K, leave it as is, we're fine

[weary flame]

So

This is on UE then

And while the studios using it will have their own anti cheat, hopefully better than wahtever EA has, it will still allow an attack vector

[spring agate]

EA having an Anti Cheat?

[weary flame]

And in terms of tech, you can't patch all holes, it's too costly and too time consuming

[spring agate]

[weary flame]

It's an "anti" anticheat

It's so easy to turn off

[spring agate]

Respawn still bans cheaters in Apex manually to this day i.e.

[weary flame]

Not only manually, but yes, mainly

They have been working on an anti cheat tho

And it was very effective

In the first hours they used it, it banned like a couple k?

And those were the ones actively playing then

[spring agate]

but yeah, I agree with you, several different Engines in the industry can be beneficial. Porting however should become a focus in these engines to improve upon.

[weary flame]

Yeah

Also optimisation

[spring agate]

I'm curious however, Capcom wants to release MH Sunbreak at the end of this month to all the consoles

ffs

let's see what s*** storm they're going to cause

gonna be fun

[weary flame]

Oh god

You'll love this

This is the Z790

Is that left one a thunderbolt even....?

[spring agate]

doesn't seem like

low res pic... ugh

[weary flame]

It says DP under

[spring agate]

but it's a USB-C with DP support

[weary flame]

So not entirely sure

[spring agate]

doubt that, never seen a TB supporting DP

[weary flame]

TB?

[spring agate]

__ThunderB__olt

[weary flame]

ooooh

wait

This doesn't have a HDMI/DP in?

Maybe?

[spring agate]

theoretically it could support both, DP and HDMI aren't that different from one another

[weary flame]

Oh I know

[spring agate]

given that they'd do an insane f**kery with the ground pins

but other than that it would work

[weary flame]

Checking rq

[spring agate]

anyways, gotta coach in about 10 min

[weary flame]

Apparently mainly the creator baords have a DP/HDMI in for thunderbolt

Gl!

[weary flame]

SO, checking rq, you can use DP in for both thunderbolt and DP USB-C

But it needs to have DP in on the motherboard

[spring agate]

i see

[weary flame]

I think an expansion card can work too

But not entirely sure

[spring agate]

dp in, huh?

[weary flame]

Haven't really seen HDMI in

[spring agate]

so it's basically just a forwarding port

[weary flame]

Yeah

[spring agate]

lame...

[weary flame]

You tend to need an iGPU
Hence only Intel boards used to have it

[weary flame]

The Thunderbolt ports can reach very far
Like, dozens of meters

This 100% is for things like, if your PC is in a server rack or something

[spring agate]

only if it's optical tho, which goes up to 100 meters

normal thunderbolt is limited to 3 or 4 meters

[weary flame]

Yeah

This is meant for the optical variant

ANd imo, this tech is really cool

[summer herald]

ok im here now

so do i get the 5000d?

[weary flame]

I mean

it depends....?

[quartz path]

Lian Li GALAHAD AIO 240 RGB UNI FAN SL120 EDITION 58.54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

Will these water cool fans fit in the side of a hyte y60

[weary flame]

Look at the case guide

I think it does

[quartz path]

I

I dont think so

[weary flame]

"radiator support"

That's it

[quartz path]

Oh ok

Ty

[quartz path]

@weary flame

Is there a good video on how to upgrade my motherboard bios

[weary flame]

Probably

[quartz path]

Berry

@weary flame

[weary flame]

What

[quartz path]

After building my pc how do I install windows 10 should i just buy it

[weary flame]

There are yt guides

[quartz path]

Idk if my old pc works

What would recommend me

[weary flame]

Search a yt vid

[quartz path]

Ok

Also

[weary flame]

J2C or LTT probably has a good vid

[quartz path]

What so you think abt my px

Pc

[weary flame]

?

Which?

[quartz path]

This one

[weary flame]

That's a very big PSU

I've a 3070 and I'm fine with an 850

Hell I overbought because I didn't know how Raptor Lake and Zen 5 would look

Go cheaper on the PSU is what I'm saying

[quartz path]

I thought that to

Should i just go to 850-950

[weary flame]

750 will be more than fine

[quartz path]

Are you sure

Because someone has told me here that i should get 1000

🤷‍♂️

Ok

[weary flame]

It's a 3060ti

Idk what you expect from me

[quartz path]

Ill be safe so I’ll get a 850

Psu

Im goin to upgrading

In the future

Whats a good 850psu

Not to expensive

[weary flame]

Idk

[quartz path]

Which one is yours

850 psu

?

Nvm

[quartz path]

You know what

I’ll just buy a prebuilt hella people made me loose hope on my parts I picked ☹️

[weary flame]

EVGA nova 850 or something

[tame badger]

Never do that, literally the worst idea.

Legit Barry has no clue as to what he's talking about.

[weary flame]

What

Ah yes, a 1000W 140$ PSU for a 3060ti and 5800X3D is so needed it's almost a requirement, it's crazy that it's not actually one, imagine not using a 1000W in your PC

Also, imagine that not everyone is a guy on the internet? Wait, what am I saying, that's ridiculous

let alone writing names correctly

Anyway, satire aside

Going cheaper on your PSU with reputable brands generally isn't a bad idea
While you might say "but gigabyte", I can raise you "Newegg was supposed to send those PSU's back, as they were on a recall by gigabyte, that didn't happen and that's how we got magic smoke PSU's"

Further, even the cheaper ones tend to have all the same protections that the more expensive ones have, they tend to just have less connectors and efficiency, together with a couple of other things

Now, what you shouldn't do, is go to sites like eBay and pick up a 30 bucks mustard cable PSU

Then it's stupid

But this isn't 2013 anymore

So kindly, stfu

[acoustic sedge]

what is good pre build pc for around 900 euros

[warped scaffold]

The iphone 14 is a good choice

[crimson scroll]

keep it civil please

[weary flame]

I'd like to, but I also don't like getting told I don't know anything because someone can't read context

[crimson scroll]

That doesn't mean you should be rude back

[warm dune]

I would agree with @weary flame

[warped scaffold]

I agree with berry just bc hes cool

[solemn wagon]

personally a better idea is not relying on strangers on the internet for info when you're potentially spending thousands of dollars on something but that's just me

people like steve at GN aren't what i would call strangers, and you can also objectively look at them and their methods of collecting data and understand that they are thorough and give you unbiased, good opinions and lessons

cuz i, for example, strongly disagree with cheaping out on a power supply, between that and a case, they're one of the few parts you can reuse over multiple builds

so it makes a lot more sense for me to spend an extra $50 on a PSU that gives you headroom on your current build and one you can use in future builds

but ymmv

not to mention it's arguably the most "mission critical" part of your entire build

i don't cheap out on things like tires for my car for the same reason (being mission critical, and especially in the context of a car, it's the only part that touches the road, so it seems really shortsighted to cheap out on those)

but i'm just some idiot on the internet with two degrees in an advanced field so i'm pretty stupid

but that being said 1k watt power supply is overkill for that, i'd still go with a 750/850 watt PSU just for that future potential for growth and upgrades

i don't really see the point in fiddle farting over $50-100 on a build that's gonna run you at least $1k USD but i realize i may be in a privileged position where that's an inconsequential sum of money

the advice given there is good advice but i disagree with the reasoning behind it

[weary flame]

*she

[weary flame]

the context of "cheaping out" was going for something lower than 1000W
So yeah, don't cheap out on price purely to cheap out on price

But you can cheap out on price by getting less wattage

But that doesn't mean less quality

[warped scaffold]

She0l mean

She*

[solemn wagon]

i dunno, i still would rather just buy something once and not worry about it for an extended period of time, spend a bit more money up front for something that i know i won't have to replace until absolutely necessary; my 3900x build is on an 8 year old 800 watt seasonic PSU from an ancient 6700k/980ti build, and that investment has paid off

hard to put a value on that

you could easily get away with a 500/600watt psu in that build but why even

anything beyond that and you'll need to upgrade anyway, or at least i would

[weary flame]

You'll go a long way with a 850

As long as you don't go 13900k

that's another story

[solemn wagon]

i don't think someone on a 1k budget would be considering anything like that for a very long period of time

[weary flame]

Yeah, def

It's also part of why i suggested an 850W

It's a 3060ti and a CPU I forgot

A combo that will use like, half of it?

[solemn wagon]

you said a 5800x3D

[weary flame]

Ah

[solemn wagon]

yeah it's not even stressing it

[weary flame]

Wasn't sure

Yeah

An 850W would be perfect

If you want that upgrade path

5800X3D for gaming is pretty much best you can get on the platform
And you have a bunch of wattage left for other GPU upgrades

[solemn wagon]

i'd imagine the person doing this build would definitely be upgrading in the future but most people i encounter tend to stay with the same range of products for a while

[weary flame]

Hell, a 4070 has the same wattage as the 3060 iirc?

[solemn wagon]

budget builds usually stick to budget ect

[weary flame]

Eh

I've sene a lot of people starting on a budget and then expanding to more expensive stuff

But that does take time

[solemn wagon]

yeah that's why i qualified it with most people i encounter

[weary flame]

Yup

[solemn wagon]

but i hang out with a lot of people who aren't as enthusiastic about hardware as i am so

[weary flame]

And 850W will go a loooooong way

Was getting sticky with Nvidia and their 30 series

The transient spikes more than wattage

But Ada Lovelace has fixed the problems the 30 line up had

I think you can easily run like, a 4090 and a 7800X3D on an 850W without much issues

You might bottle out (most likely on GPU) if you push the GPU realy far
But for gaming you won't

This is more production workload that that will happen

[solemn wagon]

if you have some top secret unlocked power limit VBIOS you can definitely max that out, that's a bit less than i'd feel comfortable with in that build

and again at that price the jump to 1k watt is really nothing

[weary flame]

True

[solemn wagon]

but in my field we tend to err on the side of caution

[weary flame]

But you can spare like, 10-20 bucks

And that 1k PSU there was like, 40-50 more expensive than the 850 I got

That was like, 136?

I got mine for around 80-90

[solemn wagon]

and yeah after checking some stuff the 3060 and 4070 have the same tdp

which, disregarding nvidia's dubious marketing, is quite impressive

[weary flame]

It really is

Efficiency this gen on, mainly AMD (CPU and GPU and Nvidia) have been amazing

Intel is

doing intel things

[solemn wagon]

i mean they brought a somewhat competitive GPU to market in a short period of time, i think they deserve some credit

you're more likely eluding to the CPUs but i get it

[warped scaffold]

yes.

[weary flame]

Oh, yeah
i was just talking efficiency on the, currently, high end products from the main manufacturers

The GPU's aren't bad

and it was a long time

But not the subject

[noble oak]

shud i get a 4090

[solemn wagon]

yes, but no, depends on countless things

probably not unless you have a very specific need for it

which if you did need it you would know

but for gaming it's really overkill

and a lot of the benefit over what i presume the 4080ti's specs will be is wasted on gaming

but if you want it and your pockets are that deep why not, as long as you know what you're getting into (i.e., it being mostly a flex for a gaming rig)

[weary flame]

Yup

If you want a really great, efficient value

4070 is sorta it atm

[warped scaffold]

True

(Idk i just am commenting)

[quasi rivet]

I need a new motherboard, cpu and GPU. any reccomendations?

[devout wolf]

what's your budget?

[quasi rivet]

5-800

but im running a 970-b550 mini- i5 10400f

[quasi rivet]

Scam?

[weary flame]

You can go to a 10500 or maybe 11th gen, but idk much about 11th gen so I'm not gonna recommend it

Anyway, 10500 will probably be the cheapest

GPU
Idk with pricing and what your current GPU is

[quasi rivet]

would you reccomend ryzen or intel

[weary flame]

Honestly
Depends on pricing in your region

I do admit I have a Ryzen bias, this gen more so with Intel doing Intel things and i wished they stopped cramming in more heat to a stupid degree

[quasi rivet]

usd

[exotic brook]

is that illumination that the product can or it is too less

[nocturne folio]

1. What keyboard
2. Take another photo in a much darker setting so it is easier to distinguish how bright pls

[exotic brook]

Apex 7

[nocturne folio]

could you take a photo in a darker room if possible? the room you are in has a lot of light, so it is hard to see how illuminated the keyboard is

[exotic brook]

i can do it in the evening.

[exotic brook]

Because every room in my House becoming a lot of light

[exotic brook]

i tried my best

[nocturne folio]

looks right

[exotic brook]

No i want that has the max illumination, but i think is hasn't

[nocturne folio]

in the engine software you can adjust how much illuminated (less) if you want

[exotic brook]

No i want that has the max illumination, but i think is hasn't

Can we do in 10 mins a video call so i can show

[exotic brook]

No i want that has the max illumination, but i think is hasn't.

[nocturne folio]

I am almost certain that is the max illumination

[warped scaffold]

Thinking the same

[wheat dune]

Didn’t you just say that like 3 times?

[wheat dune]

Yeah. Same

[quartz path]

How do you flash bios

Do i need a different pc to download it

[elfin vine]

Yes you'll want to format a usb drive to fat32 then put the bios on the usb

[sturdy lantern]

I had to flash my bios for some reason my new pc would not show a display but it worked so I am happy

[inland hemlock]

my mice can not move, but can click

could anyone help me? thank you so much

[odd quail]

try unplugging it

[inland hemlock]

it does not work

[maiden harness]

try a new mouse

[young shale]

What mouse

[inland hemlock]

AEROX5 WIRELESS

[noble oak]

Hello, someone here willing to help? I'm hearing a rather strange noice from my pc after installing a new hard drive

some kind of vibrating bumping sound idk, hard to explain. Doesn't sound like the usual case where a fan is hitting a cable

It does work though

kinda sounded like a boombox starting up or some sh lmao

[weary flame]

Secure the HDD properly

They vibrate

You don't really want them to make noise

[tame badger]

Agreed

Also i have a question, so i have an asus rog laptop with the realtek drivers and for some odd reason, i hear output (audio) in my input (my mic)

Doee anyone know why this happend(s) and how to fix it?

[harsh ore]

Does anyone have the Apex Pro USB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

[topaz warren]

Yes

@harsh ore

[harsh ore]

What are you honest opinions and pros and cons

Also do u like the default switches

[surreal forge]

f

[weary flame]

I'm not certain for anything except Canada and the United States, but in those two you should have test places in Micro Center at the very least, you can probably figure it out with some googling, but you can test the things in person

[weary flame]

What's the model?

[tame badger]

ASUS ROG Strix Scar G533ZW Win11

[weary flame]

https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1015070

Try this

[tame badger]

Ight.

I'll hit you up if it works or not

[weary flame]

I can't directly find anything that otherwise could help

If this doesn't help, and it still falls in warranty, bring in a complaint with Asus

Or whatever you used to get it

[tame badger]

Well I've heard this is an issue that many have with realtek

[weary flame]

Literally never heard about that issue, especially not with Realtek

looking at how much it's used

[tame badger]

Realtek keeps trying to mix two audio profiles together

Aka it tieing it up

[ornate oriole]

whats the best set up for Valorant?

for the headset.,,,

[warped scaffold]

sonar preset?

[spice condor]

Me

[spice condor]

Its omni's are fast but pretty weightless so it depends on the person honestly, heavy keycaps may add weight to key presses though

[prime pewter]

I have them as well

I like them.

[prisma zenith]

I use apex pro tkl

• prism caps

(white)

[reef temple]

If i made a pc with a 2060 and a ryzen 2700, how much fps would it get on average in different fps games?

Also any recs for a external hdd that has a fast transfer speed for games etc

[maiden iron]

literally any hdd will have slow speeds, I highly suggest getting a high speed and low capacity m.2 sdd and pairing that with a 2tb Seagate hdd. using amd storemi you can use a sdd as a cache for your hdd and therefore make it much faster.

i would highly suggust upgrading your ryzen 2700 to a 3600 or 5600x. all of these cpus are around the same price (that may depend on your country).

if you are buying a 2060 only for rtx then it is not worth it.

[maiden iron]

as long as you don't go above high settings you should be able to get at least 120 fps. that would heavily depend on what fps games you want to play though so if you could give some specifics that would be nice. btw ultra settings are usually a waste

[reef temple]

ok ty

[weary flame]

What country you from if I might ask?

Also, that depends on game to game

[dapper panther]

honestly I'm impressed as how a keyboard can be so smooth and so delicately curated with precision. Would definitly reccomend! if your on the budget side i used to use a apex 3 and then a apex 5 both great!

while still having default switches

i am impressed

[harsh ore]

Nice right now I have one but not a fan because its just outdated...hoping to get the new one soon after I get a new chair. Always be upgrading my damn setup

[frail ibex]

can someone give me some parts i could use to build a pc worth 2 (usd) thousand to 3 thousand with a monitor

[devout root]

Hello friends! Do you have vibration in your headphones when there is complete silence in the noise reduction protocol?

[maiden iron]

Could you provide some specifics? Like how much storage do you need and what resolution you want your monitor to be.

[frail ibex]

maybe 1 to 4 terrabytes of storage

[frail ibex]

doesnt really matter what monitor it has to be in 150 to 300 dollar price range cuz i am going to get 2 or 1 big one with 1ms responce and 160 hz to 60hz (i perfer 2 insted of 1)

[frail ibex]

also i dont really want an itel gpu and the storage should have windows on it already and also no water cooling

[maiden iron]

Storage very uncommonly comes with Windows installed but you can get a USB from Microsoft that has the installer on it and all you gotta do is plug it in.

Here is the parts list for you https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Boss674/saved/cfCZQ7

If you would like to make any changes then please tell me

[frail ibex]

Yeah sorry that's what I meant for stoarage

[frail ibex]

its private

[maiden iron]

Sorry about that, set to public now.

[frail ibex]

I may getter better cpu and gpu also no hhd and 2 tb ssd

Same thing with ram

[frail ibex]

this good?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kdk7mr

[exotic abyss]

what's the best gpu for i5-10400F (only nvidia)

rtx 3060 12gb ?

[maiden iron]

thats a good combo, im currently using a r5 3600 (roughly equivalent) with a rtx 3060 12gb and its been working amazingly

i wouldnt go any higher otherwise youre going to be cpu bottlenecked

[noble oak]

shouldnt go with a f model cpu at all

got a i5 9400f

bottle necks my 2060 super

[maiden iron]

wdym f model cpus only mean that they don't have integrated graphics

[noble oak]

also that they are locked, if u want a pc that wont bottleneck as easy get a cpu that isnt locked

[dense radish]

im using an rtx 3080 ti

64 gb

its fire asf

[frail ibex]

@maiden iron is the build I made good

[weary flame]

That's fine
I assume you're on a budget?

[unreal plinth]

i5 13600kf

rtx 4070ti

and 32 giga ram ddr 5

[weary flame]

If you go with a 13600 you might aswell go with a the 13600(f)

[arctic panther]

ryzen 5 7600x ?

look at it from me if you want

Computer Components

MSi MPG B650 CARBON WIFI
AMD Ryzen 7 7700x
MSi GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING X TRIO 12G
Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
Corsair 6000Mhz Cl30
Corsair iCUE H150
Corsair 5000X
Thermaltake Toughpower Gf 850W 80+ Gold

EQUIPMENT

steelseries apex 5
steelseries rival 650
steelseries arctis nova 7
steelseries qck prism xl

get at least 2k as a screen

[weary flame]

Both are good
If it's for gaming it depends on what games you regularly play, and want most performance in, compared to how it used to be

Otherwise

They're so close

Just buy whatever is cheaper in bundle, ie CPU + board

[exotic abyss]

ye i can't go farer than $600-$700

but i would rather got for $400-500$

i mean i dont want to spend everything ya know

[weary flame]

On a GPU

Uh

[exotic abyss]

ye

[weary flame]

It depends

[exotic abyss]

some people say that i should swap CPU firts

[weary flame]

Why not AMD, if I might know?

[exotic abyss]

well i always use nvidia that's why

[weary flame]

Because currently they have the more bang/buck for lower to mid end

You can get better than 3060 for about the same price in performance

You don't do any amounts of workloads? Just gaming?

[exotic abyss]

ye

well i search for setup to play cyberpunk at ultra/high

with min 60 fps

i mean i can get something else than nvidia gpu but im not into them at all

[weary flame]

Just go AMD if you want pure performance

At least in that price bracket

[exotic abyss]

well what AMD Gpu would you recommend me if i have i5-10400F

i dont want to get bottleneck

[weary flame]

US?

[exotic abyss]

nah

[weary flame]

Where ya from then

I need to know for price

[exotic abyss]

Poland

[weary flame]

Ah, thanks

Can I have it in local currency then?

The price range

[exotic abyss]

1600-2600 pln

[weary flame]

Can you check if the 6800XT is in that range?

Like, locally

I don't speak polish, let alone read

[exotic abyss]

well it's 3000 pln

[weary flame]

Ah

The 6800?

[exotic abyss]

also 4800 pln and 13000 pln somehow

[exotic abyss]

ye 6800XT

[weary flame]

No

Without the XT

[exotic abyss]

ok

well i found something like that

[weary flame]

That's not too bad

I know the 6800XT atm, with the driver updates, is generally over the 3080 in performance

The 6800 shouldn't be too far off

[exotic abyss]

well it's weird. There is 6800 for 4500 pln which is like $1100 and there is 2500 pln which is $550

why are those prices so random

[weary flame]

I don't know tbh

The Sapphire Pulse should be trustworthy
As in, the card itself

It's a known brand for AMD

You can also see for a 6700XT
If you want

[exotic abyss]

rx 6800 is not in stock in most sites

maybe 2500 pln is outdated price

577 usd

is that good?

well it's insanely good for that price i think

the guy plays cyberpunk 1080p 90 fps on ultra

[weary flame]

I'd say

For you it is?

Locally price I mean

[exotic abyss]

uh actually i think rtx 3070 works better

[weary flame]

How come?

[exotic abyss]

well in the test on youtube rtx 3070 gets more fps in most games

but rtx 3070 has only 8 gb vram

[weary flame]

That's a launch video

No?

?

Oh, is there a 6750XT?

[exotic abyss]

ye

seems like it works nearly the same as rtx 3070

[weary flame]

I forgot that GPU existed

[exotic abyss]

well it seems to be a good gpu to buy in my budget

[weary flame]

It should be cheaper than the 3070 iirc

[exotic abyss]

ye

[weary flame]

More performance

[unreal plinth]

That the parts that I have on the PC

• apex pro mini

And logitech super light pro

And DT990 pro for the headset

[weary flame]

@pulsar fossil (sorry for ping, figured best to ping you tho)

[pulsar fossil]

ty

[weary flame]

Np

[noble oak]

Oh hi ho no

[static pecan]

Keep the chats to English in the public channels

[frail ibex]

Where is the ram in the msi raider ge76

[noble oak]

Is it not under the big black square in the center of the board?

[frail ibex]

That's the center

[cinder grotto]

Sorry

[ocean jolt]

i have a Msi Rtx 3060 TI. i have heard some rumors that its not that good but it cost a waping 800$ is it bad? i bought it like 2 years ago

[weary flame]

It's not bad

And you don't have to spend more money

Generally it will suffice

[long bolt]

So im changing mobo and cpu. do i need to transfer my windows to this mobo or am i gonna be good?

So i dont have to buy it again

[weary flame]

WIndows should be on your SSD

Just reuse it

[noble oak]

I need

Help

[weary flame]

With what?

[noble oak]

I don’t know how to build

I don’t know either intel or amd

• i don’t know

How to build

[empty shard]

hi

[novel field]

Watch youtube tutorials

[night monolith]

Ye

And when you have questione Just Ask us

[brave ravine]

really depends, you will likely have to reinstall due to specificity of windows install to specific hardware, license is usually locked to mobo, but I've had some successful transfers with it not being needed. Otherwise Windows 10 license is $3 is you know where to look, or even free 🙂

[weary flame]

iirc you can get around the lock

[brave ravine]

depends what you compare it to, 1060? It's really good, 4090? No it's not good. If it works for you, then that is all that matters, if you get low FPS, change it

[weary flame]

Linus made a vid on it

[brave ravine]

yeah not sure, I have over 3 licenses from all the switching, you can register it to your Microsoft account and on some comps it just worked out of the box, on some it didn't. Didn't really bother for $3 worth of license, less of a cost than my time

[weary flame]

I don't think you need to pay for the switch thing

lemme check

[brave ravine]

the thing is I have 3+ desktops, so I'm not even sure if switching would then disable some of them 😄 didn't really deep dive into this tbh

[weary flame]

Just watching the vid, you don't need to pay to link a windows key to your acc, you will have a limited amount of activations, but the key it creates is very resilient, as Linus shows in this vid
https://youtu.be/M3bezYerYxQ

[long bolt]

By the looks of it. Window things are linked to your Microsoft acount so I should be good

[weary flame]

You need to link it to your acc first

[long bolt]

i believe it is? in windows activation it seems like its all good

[weary flame]

He explains it a bit in the video

[noble oak]

Guy named Austin something

His tutorials are pretty good

Watched him to make my own pc 😂

[shut pagoda]

guys is a 3050 a good graphics card

[weary flame]

Besides not really, what's the price?

[noble oak]

no

[nocturne folio]

It's served me okay for the year I've had mine, probably not so worth the price as some options out there

[weary flame]

Oh yeah, low end Radeon cards, the 6000 low end ones, are really good for price rn

[formal socket]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7zKyjZ

What do you guys think

[weary flame]

Get a 4070, you'll save money, it's a lot better and you get some of those new, nice features (doesn't really matter which vendor, they're all overbuilt)
Better board, that's really expensive for such a featureless board that doesn't even look nice, I get if there is a specific reason as to why you want that, but I am fairly certain there just, are better ones

For the rest, not really, the PSU you selected appears to not be available, but you can also go for a 600W easier because the 4070 has way better efficiency and needs less wattage to make sure something doesn't happen

[noble oak]

i already have a decent PC built, except for my GPU

im currently running an i7-11700k, with 32g of crutial 3200 mhz (XMP @ 3600mhz) ram

what would be the best gpu for my cpu?

when ive googled it websiets are telling me t oget an mf 4090 for no bottlenecks

[weary flame]

XD

What's your budget

[noble oak]

pretty nonexistent right now, as im saving for a laptop for college next year

but like 5-600 gbp around that

[weary flame]

Then don't worry about it too much

[noble oak]

is it a good idea to go with used gpus?

i usually dont use second hand tech but its something ive been looking at recently

(brand new dell XPS'es are ~2-3k)

[weary flame]

Mine is a second hand 3070, and I have had no complaints
The issue is being able to check the card properly and the numbers from some benchmarks
best done in person

[weary flame]

A speciality laptop?

[noble oak]

ive been seeing some used 3060s on ebay for ~3--gpb

[noble oak]

not really theyre just decent

[weary flame]

I got a 3070 for under 300 XD

[noble oak]

gbp?

[weary flame]

If you want a really good (and repairable) laptop
Framework is really good, and so far I barely heard complaints

[noble oak]

thats the best offer here

[weary flame]

No, EUR, mb

[noble oak]

yeah i know framework, it was either an xps or a framework

[weary flame]

But it's still not a massive difference

I paid 280

[noble oak]

found one on bids for 300, with 1hr left

also, idk if it will come with the power adapter

the 6 pin thing

i have my psu box next to me but my psu is ~10-11 years old

[weary flame]

I suggest framework purely because you get better customer service, and can actually do things yourself
Their gaming laptops are coming out soon, it's not really a gaming laptop, as the GPU is replaceable and being able to switch out with other things like M.2 slots

[noble oak]

finally non integrated gpus?

thats MASSIVE

i was talking with my friend before who is planning on getting one, and 3d prings things#

[weary flame]

Yeah, I do want a laptop sooner or later

Oh

[noble oak]

i said he should make an expansion card expansion card 💀

[weary flame]

And the realµ exciting part

They will have AMD 7000 fully unlocked CPU's in there

Those things are stupid efficient

[noble oak]

damnnn

[weary flame]

The mobile versions

ANd the GPU will be a 40 series iirc, which is also efficient

[noble oak]

not a big amd fan but thats big

[weary flame]

I'm honestly excited for those

[noble oak]

thats gonna come in at a price point of like 2k

[weary flame]

For mobile, current gen, they are the better option
They get really close to the fully unlocked intel ones, and are way more efficient

[weary flame]

I think it starts at 1.5k with either Intel or AMD

[noble oak]

oh

thats not too bad

[weary flame]

I am mainly excited for the AMD CPU's tho

Because of said efficiency

[noble oak]

the only time ive ever used an amd cpu

[weary flame]

I am already limited by a battery, and windows takes so much energy

[noble oak]

i bricked the laptop

by updating the drivers

💀

[weary flame]

That I way rather have something efficient

[weary flame]

hat's not really, uncommon sadly

[noble oak]

yeah

thats why i dislike amd mostly

i remember before with an update itd kill ur OS

like 2 months ago

[weary flame]

Anyway, if you want a GPU for under 600
The 4070 (in the UK), is right under 600 (oof, I can get it closer to 500 EUR)
But the 4060ti 16GB launches at 400 base, so expect the lower end SI's to be around 450, and that's gonna be a steal

You will have to wait for the GPU to launch

But eh

You're not too hardpressed

[noble oak]

yeah

im running a 1050 ti the only issue im getting rn is vr is kinda laggy

im glad all of the games i play are cpu heavy

except for assetto corsa which just

yeah

its cpu ram and gpu heavy

[weary flame]

I get it

[noble oak]

assetto corsa is one of them games where ifu want it to look good

and by good i mean veryfucking realistic

you need a nasa pc

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204337930131?hash=item2f937d5f93:g:KcMAAOSwh2pkYg~I&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAsLnjNpfrLpLSyBckcBv8m9AfkiMFaChEm%2BZ%2B7aYfOu2r1IdjqDUFBfbn6p7FBTkd%2F4zQcBlOzr1Z%2FhkazuZKsiNczROv0UtJQ%2FGMiWcq%2BH%2FLlyTeKEUmVPeoYnHeEeJBfthNyH%2BUAWwffblF0lQOaZ%2B1FJr6XWVdM1aOTs%2FxVhCQpv0GPgGEW5l8me83DyLNbAPTkhSt0zH%2FZ0wzEXQLOx307Kc1zPYQtL9lYGwKnOi9|tkp%3ABk9SR66zgYiHYg

i found this for 300

but its on bids

[weary flame]

Before you say anything, yes, I know, Linus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeCdBVHYa_8&pp=ygUJRnJhbWV3b3Jr

[weary flame]

DOn't, you don't need it and cheaper cards that will outperform it are launching soon

[noble oak]

i might just wait it out yeah

[weary flame]

I suggest to

DLSS 3.0 seems really good

And yes, I know, not excusing for bad games

But the techis really cool, works amazing and it just

It works

[noble oak]

im currently doing exams, as soon as my exams are gone im getting a decent job

commissions arent really working well 😭

i need to buy a laptop tho for college before i get a gpu

@weary flame ueres something cool that fully made me wnat to buy a framework

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/comments/10kv8h6/as_promised_an_update_on_v2_of_my_cyberdock/#

[weary flame]

I suggest the framework
It launches this spring, so really soon

The 16" one I mea , the one with the dedicated GPU

And repairability is very high up for me tbh

Also the open source, Framework keeps a data base of user shared addons you can use on your Framework laptop

That you can make yourself

[noble oak]

yeah the expansion cards

[noble oak]

theres a phone company similar to framework too, its called fairphone if you ever heard of it

https://www.fairphone.com/en/

[weary flame]

I have actually

I should look into em tbh

[formal socket]

What kind of board do you suggest? Also I have no clue what I'm doing

[weary flame]

Do you need anything in terms of PCIe, M2 and backplate IO
Like need

And after that, is there anything you'd like more of in terms of those things, like "I've had enough USB slots, but I'd prefer a couple more for good measure"

[formal socket]

I think the answers are no and no

[noble oak]

I am looking to get the best experience possible with my PC, I own both a 3070 and a 6700xt, which one should I use?

[royal ridge]

rtx 3070
dlss 2 looks better than fsr 2 (fsr 2 still looks good)
it also has better ray tracing but idk if it's worth loosing the performance
6700xt has more vram so might be better in the future for new aaa games

[weary flame]

It'll depend on if FSR3 is backwards compatible too

And anyway, most games don't require 12GB at least to run, if you run it on a sane preset, not ultra

[noble oak]

FSR3 is not backwards

[jagged fable]

can somebody help me?
i got on steelseries 9x but my audio is very bad if i join the discord call how can i fixx that?

[weary flame]

What's your output set to?

Freehand or stereo?

[mellow silo]

I have the Arctis Pro Wireless headphones and use SteelSeries Sonar (for the multiple audio tracks). I love 8d music and when I have my Spotify's output set to "Sonar-Gaming" it works amazingly but the second I change it to media even with the same settings it plays everything in both sides of the headphones. Any help is appreciated.

[noble oak]

3RSF

[cerulean hull]

I do not know if this is the right chat to ask help/advice. But here we go. I am planning to get a controller to play some game. So is the best controller for PC?

[static pecan]

If you're mainly wanting to use it on PC go with the Stratus Duo. It's the only one with a 2.4ghz option so you'll get the best performance and connectivity with it vs just a Bluetooth controller like the Stratus+, especially since some games don't want to behave very well with Bluetooth controllers. And the Nimbus+ is Apple only so it won't work with a PC at all

[summer oak]

Try research for this GuliKit Kingkong Pro 2, my friend recommend me for this controller for PC.

[gilded glacier]

Hello. I'm not really trying to build a pc but I need technical support kinda. It's a big thing so whoever can / is willing to help please DM me.

It's basically about performance issues that I don't know how to fix.

[rain solar]

anyone have any advice to get the chat mix to work on the wireless receiver for the nova pro wireless? very disappointed for a £300+ headset right now and the steelseries support is shocking

[noble oak]

this is my current setup

anyone has some suggestions on how to upgrade it

[slate jewel]

Upgrading my pc:
Upgrading to i7 13700k
Getting LS720 AIO
Getting 32gb 7200mhz of ram
Using my current gpu rtx 3080
Getting 1 (2) ssd nvme
Getting 1000w PSU
Getting 3 be quiet light wing fans

Is the MSI Z790 Tomahawk good for for the 7200mhz ram and overlocking or should I get MSI Z790 EDGE

[pulsar fossil]

Can't upgrade perfection

[weary flame]

Very little raptor lake CPUs will hit that, I forgot what they sorta max out on, but you need to be lucky for 7200 to work

[waxen tinsel]

if my headphones already have spatial audio will getting dolby atmos improve sound quality or stay the same?

[slate jewel]

so no point in getting a 7200mhz?

What the top mhz it can hit easily?

[weary flame]

I honestly forgot, let alone what the current sweet spot is, I suggest researching it

[formal socket]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27Rh4s
Suggestions please, I have no idea what I'm doing

[prisma zenith]

what do you mean

[cunning plume]

I'd go for a bigger monitor with higher resolution. I know you think you're fine, but it's amazing what a few million more pixels can do!

[noble oak]

If you give me some money

[weary flame]

Is there a reason you went with a 13900k?
Like, you do workloads that are CPU heavy or?

Wait, 13900k on a B660...?

I assume you want gaming focused, no?
Also, budget?

[formal socket]

@weary flame gaming focused, budget is $2500, and not much of a reason other than I want a good cpu

[weary flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6j8szf

Some stuff I put together

Idk why you went with corsair, but I selected a 2 pack of 140mm ones that work in this case

It's just over 2000

But you can upgrade the GPU if you want

At that price range you can get a 7900 XTX, but you'll be hitting the 2500 mark

Or 4080

[formal socket]

That looks cool thank you

[weary flame]

Np

[prisma zenith]

what does this meam

*mean

[weary flame]

How much it estimated the pc will consume, I assume max

Wattage

Idk

[crimson scroll]

You can click the wattage

[prisma zenith]

if that's high, we're paying more electricity, ?

[weary flame]

It's not that high tbh

Not in this day and age

Plus, that GPU will rarely hit it's max wattage

With just, how gpu's work

Anyway
That build is def not bad, however, AMD hasn't brought out their 7800(xt) and the 7900xt is a lot more expensive let alone the xtx, so that's why I went with the 6950xt
You can take either of those two newer cards, but the 6950xt is still really good

[analog lily]

This build looks fine. The 4070 Ti is a serious beast. Prolly more than the recreational gamer needs.

[weary flame]

XD

"fine"

[weary flame]

@formal socket btw
If you can find it, get the I think Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 280mm, as I think it can fit in the side bracket

I forgot about that

[cerulean hearth]

i was gonna build a PC and had a budget of 1500. What would be good to put in it?

[weary flame]

ANy specific needs you have?

Anything you can reuse?

[novel field]

I have a problem

when i want to open the back of my msi gl65 9sd laptop it sticks

like all the part with the usb ports they are sticking to the back so i can't open it

[weary flame]

Check if all screws are loose, and then there are some that are also have a clipped design for the back of the laptop

[novel field]

i checked everything

like

it doesn't open from here

all the usb ports

they stick to the back

[weary flame]

The USB ports stay in the laptop

They're not supposed to get out like that

[cerulean hearth]

mainly for high end gaming

thats really it

[weary flame]

Then 1500 isn't really going to be it?
Rather mid range

Lemme tweak some stuff on that other build I did

[weary flame]

This is not high end gaming

Actually, ic an probably change the GPU a bit

Lemme see

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zRmh4s

This seems better

Still won't be high end gaming

But the CPU is currently one of the best, and the GPU can always be changed eventually

[novel field]

ik bro that's the problem they stick so i can't open my laptop

[weary flame]

Then there are clips

[prisma zenith]

If I buy each elements, do I just connect them?