💻-building-a-pc

[compact bear]

thats weird

[simple ivy]

I know

That’s what I said.

[compact bear]

what motherboard do you have?

[simple ivy]

i7 12700k
Arctic freezer 34 duo fan
Msi z690 A pro A ddr4
Gigabyte 3070ti OC
Corsair RM 850x

[compact bear]

nice build man

[simple ivy]

I had the 750 but they told me low psu

So I switched it yesterday

[compact bear]

no, 750 is already enough

[simple ivy]

That’s what I said to them

But they know best

[compact bear]

i have a 650 bronze psu and a friend told me that can even power a 3070

have you tried updating your bios?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-DDR4/support

[simple ivy]

It wouldn’t stay 5 min to update

It would shutdown

[compact bear]

into the bios update?

[simple ivy]

It did last time 30 days ago

I haven’t tried yet it to see

[compact bear]

thats really weird

[simple ivy]

It shutdown in the bios

[compact bear]

but even when tehe pc is idle it stil shuts down?

[simple ivy]

Correct

At the Windows lobby

[compact bear]

thats really weird yes

have you called msi?

[simple ivy]

I even got a 900w ups

[compact bear]

exactly

[simple ivy]

And it doesn’t pick anything up

[compact bear]

weird

wich os do you use?

[simple ivy]

And I even tried it with the battery back up and it still shut off

Windows 10

[compact bear]

external batery?

[simple ivy]

From the ups

Just to see if it’s the power socket

From the wall

And it wasn’t

[compact bear]

i dont know much about batterys

weird

[simple ivy]

The computer still just shut off

[compact bear]

have you refreshed the thermal paste?

maybe you could try that

[simple ivy]

Somebody told me to change the sata cables from my new psu

Did that last month ago

I can do that again

[compact bear]

i would reccomend using the cables that come with your psu

when was the last time you did it?

[simple ivy]

The thermal?

[compact bear]

yes

[simple ivy]

Last month

After I got it from Best Buy

[compact bear]

thats weird, then i would leave it as it is

[simple ivy]

Temps aren’t the issue

[compact bear]

where did you see the temps?

[simple ivy]

Imoaxu a app

I don’t remember the name of it

[compact bear]

as xeltic already said i would reccomend doing a stress test

[simple ivy]

Cpu ?

[compact bear]

and gpu

[simple ivy]

They did that at Best Buy 30 days ago

Only for cpu

[compact bear]

msi afterburner is also very good to see your temps

[simple ivy]

For 18 hours

No heat

[compact bear]

serious?

thats weird yes

[simple ivy]

Some throttling for once but temps were good

They told

[compact bear]

who, best buy?

[simple ivy]

Correct

[compact bear]

i would do a stress test yourself to check the temps

[simple ivy]

I did yesterday

Didn’t close

Temps were 60s

[compact bear]

thats nice

but the pc still shut down?

[simple ivy]

No

Cause i closed it down, it shut off to many times

So I just turn it off.

[compact bear]

by hand right?

[simple ivy]

No by the Windows?

[compact bear]

both are good

but why did you turn it off

[simple ivy]

I don’t know, I just didn’t want to fry them

Cause the multiple times it has shut down.

[compact bear]

your cpu will under power it self when it gets to hot so you dont fry it easily

[simple ivy]

Can I show you my bios fan curve

[compact bear]

sure

[simple ivy]

Those were the numbers when it shut off on me

Last night

[compact bear]

thats good, i see cooling isnt the problem with 6 case fans

[simple ivy]

3 intake front
2 exhaust top
1 exhaust back from the case

[compact bear]

i would change the upper ones to intake

a lot of people have that cofiguration

5 intake and 1 exhoust

[simple ivy]

It becomes an oven

I had that before

[compact bear]

when you do that?

weird

can you send a picture of your pc?

[simple ivy]

Sure

[compact bear]

i dont see anything weird

what fans are on the top?

140mm?

[simple ivy]

Yes Corsair

LL I think

[compact bear]

those are nice

[simple ivy]

Then SP in the fronts

[compact bear]

but when you use them as out take it isnt an oven

[simple ivy]

Nope

[compact bear]

it is a prebuild right?

[simple ivy]

No custom

I put it together

[compact bear]

you made it yourslef?

nice

[simple ivy]

Yes

[compact bear]

then i dont know what could be wrong

[simple ivy]

So it’s like my baby since my first one

[compact bear]

😂

[simple ivy]

Haha

[compact bear]

did you plug the cables that came with your new psu in your new psu or did you use the old cables?

[simple ivy]

Only the sata I didn’t use

[compact bear]

i would recommend doing that

[simple ivy]

The news all the rest of them are changed

Ok will do

[compact bear]

where is the os installed?

a m.2 ssd?

[simple ivy]

Yes jusr m.2 nmve

[compact bear]

thats good

windows 64 bit?

or 32?

[simple ivy]

Correct

64

[compact bear]

nice

maybe there is something to change in your bios maybe?

just settings

last time i did that i ended up resetting my pc becous it would start (now it is working againi)

[simple ivy]

Becous?

[compact bear]

i turned SAM on

[simple ivy]

Because

[compact bear]

that your gpu directly sends information to you ram and not via the cpu

every one said it is good

more frames is more happy

[simple ivy]

Where is that at?

[compact bear]

i dont know anymore

sorry

i can search it

https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/sam-how-it-is-enabled/m-p/487813#:~:text=After restart of the system,it under BIOS > Advanced menu.&text=8.

[simple ivy]

Should that be off?

[compact bear]

you can try and see what happens

If i were you i would watch your temps just tk be sure nothing bad happens

[simple ivy]

Should I press the toggle cpu sign

But I feel like the fans for the cpu fan go 100%

I don’t know if it’s all the time 100%

[compact bear]

so if i am corect, it doesnt use the graph you made for the fans

[simple ivy]

Everything good here?

[compact bear]

Yes

These are my settings

[simple ivy]

And it just shut off

While I was confuguring the bios

[compact bear]

And with the old settings?

Weird

If you go to Board Ezplorer, does everything show up?

[simple ivy]

Yes

[compact bear]

Have you posted it on Reddit?

[simple ivy]

Hahahaha

Oh yeaaaaaa

[compact bear]

They have some really good people

[simple ivy]

I have posted it everywhere

[compact bear]

And what did they say?

[simple ivy]

Last guy said check the sata cables and change em with the new psu

That I haven’t done yet

I will do it.

[compact bear]

Good

Did you post it on pc master race?

[simple ivy]

Other guy said if I did put any thermal past on it

[compact bear]

Haha

[simple ivy]

Um nope I haven’t

[compact bear]

That’s a joke right?

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[simple ivy]

The pc master race?

Or the paste?

[compact bear]

The paste

[simple ivy]

Yep I know right

Im not that dumb xD

[compact bear]

Okay, we cool

But did you post it on the pc master race?

[simple ivy]

Do I did not

[compact bear]

I recommend doing that

There are really big experts on there

[simple ivy]

Im just gonna post that my Pc shuts off when it’s idle and in the bios

[compact bear]

Good

This is the same for you right

[simple ivy]

Raid is off for me and the top one is at uefi

[compact bear]

I also have uefi on

[simple ivy]

I think that’s csm

Isn’t it?

[compact bear]

No, the light is very bad, sorry

This is the only diference it makes

[orchid cairn]

tl;dr
did you try to start without gpu?

and try to start with only 1 ram stick in?

[simple ivy]

But the bios doesn’t use the card does it?

[orchid cairn]

it does as it uses the gpu to display your image as soon as you plug the screen in lol
Just take out the gpu and plug the display in the port on the mb

and check if it turns off then*

[compact bear]

If that’s the case, what would it be then, the gpu?

[orchid cairn]

yup

if it doesn't turn off when gpu isn't plugged in -> rip gpu

[compact bear]

F

[orchid cairn]

Can happen, shouldn't happen tho

[compact bear]

No it shouldn’t

[orchid cairn]

parts can get damaged if psu was damaged beforehand

[compact bear]

True

[orchid cairn]

could also be ram, but ram usually gives you a nice bsod

[compact bear]

Can you explain bsod

[orchid cairn]

bluescreen of death

[compact bear]

now i understand

[simple ivy]

You said one stick?

I pulled out the card

[orchid cairn]

Ye just start without card first

if it still crashes try 1 ram stick

if this ram stick crashes try the other one

quick and simple trial and error test if a part is cooked

[simple ivy]

Cleared the cmos battery too

[orchid cairn]

not necessary to clear the cmos but k 😄

I mean not necessary if you didn't do any changes but the fan curve

you usually don't need to fck around with the bios if you aren't undervolting/overclocking

[simple ivy]

Ok so it turned off and restated it

And now it’s in windows

With no card one stick of ram

[orchid cairn]

now play the waiting game if it turns off like before

[simple ivy]

I hope it’s not the graphics card 🙈

[compact bear]

i also dont hope it for you

[simple ivy]

So far it hasnt shut off :/

[orchid cairn]

try with both ram sticks to make sure its not the ram 😄

if it doesn't turn off rip gpu

you could also try running a small stress test with aida 64 extreme

[simple ivy]

shut it off and then plug the other ram?

[orchid cairn]

ye

[simple ivy]

ok

brb

now, i just wait!

i think it's the graphics card

cause when i press the power button there wasn't any delay starting up.

:/

[orchid cairn]

doesn't have to be
The delay can be caused by detecting hardware x)

if you wanna make sure that the ram is fully intact you can even run a ram test like memtest64

Bootable usb drive and give it a go

But I guess time will tell now

[simple ivy]

True, but it was very guick when i did the second power on

with only the mb graphics

?

[orchid cairn]

you could order a gpu on amazon and test it
If it runs fine with the amazon gpu, try contacting the gpu manufacturer to see if they repair it

dunno how old it is and if theres still warranty on it

[simple ivy]

its pnly 3 months old

:/

[orchid cairn]

then they'll fix it

[simple ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/8vccfgb.png

[orchid cairn]

bad psu does bad things 😄

[simple ivy]

i bought it yesterday

[orchid cairn]

the old psu I mean

[simple ivy]

cause i thought the 750 wasnt enought

[orchid cairn]

old psu may have damaged your gpu

[simple ivy]

i had changed 3 psus

it did the same thing

so i dont thing it was the psu

[orchid cairn]

thing is, rtx 3000 has a problem with power management
it shoots up, way over the tdp, before going down where it belongs

I wouldn't run a rtx 3080ti on my 850w psu
3070ti/3080 would be max I trust it with

[simple ivy]

how long to run it ?

it was at loop 4 with 0 errors

[orchid cairn]

10-15 mins? how quickly did it turn off?

[simple ivy]

it hasnt

turned off

[orchid cairn]

I mean before

when the gpu was in

[simple ivy]

about 20 min 30

[orchid cairn]

then this long x)

[simple ivy]

im at 13 min in

[orchid cairn]

oh you're running memtest eh?

then let it do 2 full passes

[simple ivy]

ye but i meazn for the mem test 64

5 min in no errors

but for 2 months i was on a y-split before i switched to the recommended 2 8pins

do you think that played a role ?

353.422: Starting loop 8
353.422: Stuck Address Test...
355.000: Random Data Test...
356.907: Move Data Test...
357.610: Bitpattern Test...
397.610: Test finished with no errors detected

6min in

[orchid cairn]

hm
Nah should be fine usually

Could be that it tried to draw an unusual amount of power when it turbo'd up and it killed it but not sure tho

[simple ivy]

Could be, all i know i am almost 40min in and it hasnt shut off.

and temps are at 27c

[simple ivy]

so i did an intel memory stress test and cpu for 5 min and nothing happend.

And we are at 51 min in that it hasn't shut down.

Do you want me and put the graphics card in and check it again? if that is soo.

[orchid cairn]

yuo

yup

gpu in and see if it turns off

if yes, gpu ded

[simple ivy]

i noticed at times my screens would flicker is that a posibility?

not all the times, but random times.

[orchid cairn]

yup

[simple ivy]

and i thought probably was my power strip

okie dokie, let me mount it back and see.

[orchid cairn]

fingers crossed

[simple ivy]

isnt there an app to check the health or run tests for the graphics card?

[orchid cairn]

all you can do is checking hwinfo64 to see if theres something wrong with voltage or power draw

[orchid cairn]

give the gpu some work and run furmark
that way it runs on 100% with max turbo

[simple ivy]

right now at idle

[orchid cairn]

would be nice to see if fans actually spin up

maybe those are broken 😄

but nothing special in idle

[simple ivy]

whats a good card benchmark

i do feel the backplat is little warm

[orchid cairn]

my 3070ti FE looks lke this: https://i.imgur.com/VdP7lHl.png

it's not really idling, youtube is running in the background

[orchid cairn]

thats normal, it's used to put away some heat

[simple ivy]

ima gonna run bf1 on spectate mode and see

[orchid cairn]

furmark is a stresstest

[simple ivy]

1.31 ?

[orchid cairn]

yup

thats the newest version

[simple ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/cM6NsbC.png

what kind>

[orchid cairn]

just run stresstest

to see if it crashes

[simple ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/5SH2ev7.png

go ahead?

[orchid cairn]

yup

[simple ivy]

right now

[orchid cairn]

ye thats normal

but good, fans are working

[simple ivy]

ye all 3

[orchid cairn]

let it run for 10 minutes

10 minutes full load will show if somethings wrong 😄

[simple ivy]

so far it hasnt shut off

lol

https://i.imgur.com/g4kyQJv.jpeg

but it says here only 80% fan

@orchid cairn 10 min mark https://i.imgur.com/9oHA5mg.jpeg

[orchid cairn]

ye they won't spin up to 100%

they never do 😄

that looks fine for me

[simple ivy]

usually its time where it shuts off

but it hasnt

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

im telling you this machine is driving me crazy

[orchid cairn]

maybe re-seating the gpu fixed it, who knows xd

[simple ivy]

or the Cmos?

i dont even know any more.

[orchid cairn]

did you f around with the bios after getting everything together?

[simple ivy]

nah

it's the least place i wannabe cause i am clueless

[orchid cairn]

then this didn't do anything 😄

[compact bear]

Sorry, just a quik question for xeltic.
Are u dutch?

[orchid cairn]

nah, german potato

[compact bear]

Haha, i am dutch.
Saw your bio

[simple ivy]

Do you want me to do anything on the bios?

[orchid cairn]

only a fan curve if you want to control your fans, nothing else

and maybe update the bios

but first update the bios, fan curve after that xd

[simple ivy]

how do i do that again?

[orchid cairn]

board manufacturer website -> go to your board -> "support and downloads" (or something like that) -> newest bios file -> read instructions

mostly it's something like "put it on a usb drive, go to bios, run m-flash, select usb drive, select bios file, don't do anything till it's finished"

oh and obviously put the bios file on the usb drive beforehand

[simple ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/iO6qALz.png

this one? that's the first on the top

[orchid cairn]

aye

download that and unzip it onto your usb

[simple ivy]

unzip is extract all?

[orchid cairn]

yes

[simple ivy]

got it

i think

xD

[orchid cairn]

ye

looks good

go into bios, run m-flash, select the usb drive, go into the folder it just created and select the bios file

bios will flash and keyboard + mouse will be disabled for the time being

it will restart when it's finished

[simple ivy]

k

I hope it doesn’t shut off all my bias is updating

Bios

It shut off and restart it twice now I’m at the Windows lobby

So far so good I think

[orchid cairn]

should be fine then

bios should be on the newest version

[simple ivy]

1.80 last that I saw

And I had 1.10

[orchid cairn]

ye first bios version xd

you can always check your current version in cpu-z if you got that

look at me not updating my bios because I'm scared

don't want to re-do my fan curve xd

[simple ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/EItBzwt.png

[orchid cairn]

yup perfect

[simple ivy]

i think it deleted my audio progaram

oof xD

realtek audio console doesnt support it xD

[orchid cairn]

lolwat

maybe it needs an update

xd

[simple ivy]

ic ant even open tio

[orchid cairn]

download the newest audio driver from msi

[simple ivy]

to i update it

k

[orchid cairn]

those are ALWAYS supposed to work

[simple ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/MbORi85.png

[orchid cairn]

yup

let it redirect you to the ms store

[simple ivy]

yes it doesnt support it

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[orchid cairn]

rip

well
Why would you need it anyways? 😄

[simple ivy]

cause my headphones are plugged in the back and the music and sounds come from my monitor that has a speaker

[orchid cairn]

you can change that in windows

and disable the monitor speakers aswell since you won't wanna use it I guess? 😄

[simple ivy]

how can i dissable it?

[orchid cairn]

just go to sound settings in windows and disable it

[simple ivy]

can you show me reall quick on a call, i made a mess.

[orchid cairn]

my pc is in german and on windows 11, you'll probably not see anything xd

you can share me your screen tho and I guide you through

[simple ivy]

for me

ok

[orchid cairn]

sent you a friend request

[sinful owl]

Hey guys

[sinful owl]

SOMEONE PLS

Help..

[compact bear]

Yes?

[orchid cairn]

oh btw dude, the pc of uncleherc fixed itself after re-seating the gpu 😄

[compact bear]

O, seriously, i am happy for him that it works

[simple ivy]

Fixed the gpu, and now the motherboard don’t work 🤣

I tried to boot it up and the motherboard didn’t have any power in it to boot up, when I press the power button. So I have to reset it from the power supply every time.

And if it powers up, it lags.

[compact bear]

maybe better psu, 1600 wattts?!!?!?!??!?

[simple ivy]

Nah, already switched 3 psus and had the same problem.

Ima talk with msi today and see what can we do.

[noble oak]

tbh i think this is what ima go for
lmk if its good or what i can upgrade/fix
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cCdXd9

this would be my first build
budget is abt 1250 usd
the mushkin ram is white, but the one ima buy would be black

total would be abt 1219.04 on amazon

[mint sundial]

is this cooler worth it for it's price or not?
the price of the cooler is $108 and the features is mentioned too

[noble oak]

seems good

but tbh i think you should go with an ek fluid aio

or even a be quiet aio

depending what you cpu, you could also go with an air cooler if u want to

[agile ether]

MB 3060ti?

[noble oak]

wish I could, but it'll be a bit out of my budget

[mint sundial]

i have 5600x

maybe 7600x in near future

[mint sundial]

i also want an argb aio cooler so im planning to buy the aio cooler that i mentioned

[crimson scroll]

7600x is a big jump in price

New mobo, all of which are pretty expensive currently, new ram

For a $300 cpu it kinda sucks

[mint sundial]

i know, i will only upgrade these if it's neccessary but i don't think it will be neccessary for the rtx 4070

my cpu can work great with rtx 4070

[agile ether]

Ryzen 5 5600x almost same as intel

[crimson scroll]

?

Almost the same as which Intel chip? In what ways?

[agile ether]

I7

[crimson scroll]

Which i7?

The statement you made was pretty vague and broad

I certainly wouldn't put a 5600x as close to the 12900k in production workloads

[orchid cairn]

12700k*

And ye, the 5600x can’t compare to a 12700k

12700k is around 30% faster in anything 😄

[noble oak]

true

[languid egret]

Maybe thats not the perfect channel...
But which headphones are better? Arctis 5 or Arctis nova 3
Pls explain

[simple ivy]

There not even steel series the good ones 😏

Haha jk

[indigo patrol]

kfa2 geforce rtx™️ 3060 ti ex 1-click oc 8gb lhr anyone know if this is a good alternative to my current 1660 super? I'm really tempted to actually just give it back and cancel the financing because the numbers are kind of not quite there for me. It's not really a significant upgrade. I could rather do a bigger upgrade than spending 500€ on a Graphics Card that won't actually be a big boost in performance.

[crimson scroll]

500 euro for a 3060ti is not a good deal right now imo

it is a significantly better card than the 1660 super though

[simple ivy]

If you told me about the 2080, I would say don’t do it, but 3060ti is still good too!

[dense mantle]

best gpu under 300 euros

[noble oak]

1660 ti

or

3050

[rancid nymph]

3070

[muted notch]

will i be able to run basic games on a ryzen 5 5600g igpu

rn im on an i5-4210 and the hd 4400 graphics do the job but suck

and the benchmark says the vega 7 graphics are about 300% better than the hd 4400

[orchid cairn]

what do you mean with basic games?

It will be able to run many games on low settings yes
You should run at least ddr4-3600 for decent performance

[nocturne folio]

I have a ryzen 5 5600g and when I was on the integrated I could run optifine mc at 100fps, with full render distance, so I think you should be ok

[noble oak]

psu's getting cheaper
or cause of like prime day agin
idk
nzxt full modular psu is like $70 for a 750w one
a steal
ima get that one if i can

[prisma radish]

What is a PrimeSync monitor?

or what is a good one?

[stoic plaza]

Hello, beautiful community
Planing to upgrade my 1660, and thinking about 6700xt/6800xt, still considering
Maybe someone here user GPU from Sapphire? Are they reliable?

[crimson scroll]

They have a good customer support reputation among amd gpu aibs

[static pecan]

Sapphire is generally considered the gold-standard AIB when it comes to AMD GPUs. And like Saucy said they have great customer support as well so in the unlikely event something does go wrong with one of their cards they're really good about helping out their customers.

I bought my card back in 2020 during the shortages so I didn't have much of a choice in AIBs back then but Sapphire was at the top of my list when I was trying to get my 6800XT (ended up snagging an ASRock Taiichi instead which has also been great)

[stoic plaza]

Thank you friends! All life I had Nvidia GPU's, so have some doubts and concerns with AMD

[noble oak]

What ATX Motherboards are recommended currently?
(No wifi, 2/4 Ram sticks)

[crimson scroll]

For what socket

Am4? Am5? Lga1700?

[noble oak]

Intel Core i7-12700K is lga 1700 right?

[sly jasper]

Yep

[cedar stirrup]

Seems good mate, without checking the motherboard - only thing i'd point out, is making sure the motherboard knows how to read up to 6000Mhz from the ram you've chosen 🙂

Beside that, i'm fairly sure you'll have a great time with a PC like this 😉

[spare mulch]

Seems good, but I would downgrade 360 to 240fps

More frames is better but, human eye can barely see a difference and 240 fps monitors tend to preform better then 360 fps monitors.

[noble oak]

Should be good
Max ram speed 6400
Yours is 6000

[devout wolf]

there is no upper limit for RAM speed besides what the weakest link in the chain can handle

[green birch]

@noble oak

[slender ore]

you guys think I should get evga XC3 or gigabyte gaming OC as my RTX 3080 Ti (both have 12 gigs of vram)

[toxic spoke]

Hello

I am new here

Nice to meet you

[stoic plaza]

Build is complete, new Sapphire GPU working great, thank's again for your reply

[subtle rose]

Eh

Which specific processor are you lookin at? @noble oak

What price bracket

[subtle rose]

…

😂

[subtle rose]

You literally said “tell me later”

[subtle rose]

Since you say price doesn’t matter and you want something good

I suggest the i9-12900KS

It’s 650$ on new egg

[wooden acorn]

guys quick and very stupid question .. did CS:GO will work with ddr5 ?

[nocturne folio]

yes

[wooden acorn]

thank you

[subtle rose]

as far as I’m aware every game works with DDR5

There might be some super odd edge cases with old games but definitely would the exception

[viral portal]

What's ddr5

[subtle rose]

Ram

[viral portal]

5 gb ram?

[subtle rose]

No, DDR5 is the type of ram, the new “generation”

[viral portal]

Oh ok

[subtle rose]

Double the bandwidth of ddr4 which is what most computers use

[viral portal]

Ok

Maybe my use 4

[subtle rose]

If it’s older than like.. 8 months yes it does

[viral portal]

It's older than 2 years

[stoic plaza]

I would like to ask a stupid question:
I have 4 slot's for RAM on my mother board, and 2 sticks of RAM. Will it works fine if I buy another same RAM and plug it in my mother board?

Like for now I have 2x8, and would like to have 4x8

[crimson scroll]

Sure

If you've overclocked your ram 4 sticks is harder on the imc than 2 sticks so you might not be able to hold the same timings but if you're using them stock it's fine

[stoic plaza]

Thank you. They are 3600 mhz and 16 timing, so I did not overclock them, as this is enougth for me

[grizzled hazel]

Would it be worth it to buy a 1000W PSU if my PC only consumes around 500W for future proofing?

[nocturne folio]

I would say so, if eventually you are planning on going high spec (look at the power draw of the gpu and cpu range you are aiming for eventually)

[crimson scroll]

Depends on how soon you're upgrading, what your upgrades will draw what the price is compared to a 850w or 750w psu now

[barren ocean]

Hi, I build pcs for a living 😳

[noble oak]

Can someone tell me if this setup for my pc is any good (peripherals + pc)

Its a tab bit pricey

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TV8XZw

[earnest meadow]

Are you aware that you have 64 TB of storage added

[earnest meadow]

Okay I looked at this for longer than a second and noticed that it's $94,000 and I need to know what you plan on doing with this

Unless it's just a meme

[noble oak]

meme dont actually analyze this

I am completely aware of every item I put on there. my goal is to get over 100k which I can do if I change the monitors but im to lazy

used every sata, pcie, m.2, and ram slot there is. I feel proud :)

[exotic ice]

just built a computer and at a loss now it turns on but wont post tried an older cpu that should be supported a ryzen 2200g gpu works on another pc bad motherboard?
reseated ram cpu 8 pin connected and 24 pin connected

bad motherboard maybe?

[pulsar fossil]

Looks fantastic

[crimson scroll]

Please post finished builds in #archive-battlestations

[crimson scroll]

yeah, sounds like it

[orchid cairn]

its best to just get the same kit

[noble oak]

i have 2 seperate builds, butdget is abt 1.2k, but hopping to go lower. lmk which i should go for or what i should upgrade (btw i dont wanna go above like 1.25k usd?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCCvY9

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvdwpH

[slate crypt]

i would go for 12th gen

so that you can upgrade to DDR5 in the future

[subtle rose]

On a 1200$ build I think upgrading to ddr5 is one of the lowest priorities

[crimson scroll]

Yeah, I wouldn't really bother

At the point you upgrade to ddr5, you're getting a new motherboard

Might as well upgrade other stuff

[noble oak]

yeah true

I'd probably get ddr5 in the far future

hoping to combine it with the new zen 4

[crimson scroll]

Also, bottom link is better than the top in general

Although the motherboard being significantly more expensive than the cpu is meh

[ionic rapids]

got a question for my pc airflow knowers. im going to be getting the Fractal Torrent Case to swap with my NZXT case (bad airflow) and i saw someone mount the 180mm fans on the bottom like the image attached. my question is that if i have those and the front 2 / 3 fans as intake, will the single 140mm fan on the back be enough as an exhaust fan? i dont quite understand how the whole positive / negative air pressure stuff works and i dont want to get a brilliant airflow case to just mess it up with how i configure my fans. i tried to draw over the image to show where the intake (blue arrows) fans would be vs the exhaust fans (red arrow)

the question mark is because im wondering if the idea is that the air will just exhaust out of the back panel holes without a fan or not since there would be a clear over abundance of intake fans

[hexed ledge]

As long as there is a single outtake fan you should be good

It'll mean airflow is somewhat directed to the back

I'm assuming there's no space for fans at the top

Where does your psu go though haha?!?!

[ionic rapids]

the psu is actually mounted at the top in this case. it allows for wayyy better cable management for the psu

[static pecan]

Yeah a 140mm exhaust at the back will be fine. It'll help pull the already warm air from the AIO fans over your CPU and out the back. If you're planning to use an AIO like the one in the picture, of course. If you're using a tower cooler on the CPU then the fans at the front will be pushing fresh air directly into the CPU cooler fan which will push it out towards the 140mm at the back so it can be exhausted out of the case. The bottom intakes will help keep your GPU nice and cool with fresh air. The excess heat from the GPU will get pushed out by its own fans out the back of the PCIe bracket

[simple ivy]

i like the design on that case.

[devout wolf]

the Torrent is awesome for air cooling

[stoic plaza]

It's generally an awesome case. Was on my list, but I chose lian-li lancool 3 instead

[toxic raft]

Hoàng là tên#9138 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[toxic raft]

Vitin#3676 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[scarlet mirage]

Question regarding a PC:

What would people here recommend as a good price for this 2 year old pc? (it has 2 more years of warranty)

[subtle rose]

I’d look up used prices of these parts on eBay then add like 100$ on top

@scarlet mirage

[scarlet mirage]

Thanks 🙂

[subtle rose]

Use sold listings, as that’l show prices people are actually paying/have paid for

[scarlet mirage]

Thats like 2021euro (not counting the +100 dollar)

I can buy it for 1801 euro off my colleague, and that comes with +2 more years of warranty on the entire PC

[subtle rose]

3080 and 5900x for 1800?? That’s a damn good deal

[scarlet mirage]

yea 1800euro :p 2 years old, and with 2 more years extended warranty

comes with 64gb ram, 2Tb SSD, licensed W10 etc

And not used much (hes not one gaming 8-10 hours /day)

He gave 2997euro for it, 2 years ago xD

[subtle rose]

That’s a crazy deal

[scarlet mirage]

Hope so! I said yes to the deal and picking up this weekend 🙂

I dont play any giga games either, so 4080/4090 I will not need for a very long time either. Mostly concerned about the CPU, but I think itll be just fine for a few years?

[crimson scroll]

5900x is fine

[strong flower]

5900x and 3080 is good

Lot of ram as well so cpu will definitely be fine

[crimson scroll]

More sticks is actually harder on the imc

Speed of ram is more important than quantity for games if you're above 16gb

[orchid cairn]

On Ryzen 5000 more sticks actually matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkGu6A-6sQ&t=502s

[crimson scroll]

Dual rank, not more sticks necessarily

[split ingot]

i just bought steelseries artic nova pro and in game my mic makes my sound like a robot can someone help

[stoic plaza]

Hello please address this chanell https://discord.com/channels/299040363123965952/737323443908771931

[slender veldt]

https://rog.asus.com/nl/laptops/rog-zephyrus/rog-zephyrus-m16-2022-series/

Is this a do or dont

[fringe swan]

Anybody knowledgeable on gaming PCs? If I may borrow a bit of somebody’s time to look over a purchase I just made?

[crimson scroll]

Sure

[fringe swan]

Thank you, @crimson scroll

https://skytechgaming.com/product/0226-3600-3060ti-16g/

It’s from Skytech. Just purchased like last week, gets here Monday. I did a lot of research before I bought it, but I’d like a second opinion on the parts in this (as I’m fairly new to PCs—I’ve been on console for like 15+ years) I didn’t wanna go over the price point of 1.5k (including taxes) and this fell within my budget.

[crimson scroll]

It's got an older cpu and just an acceptable cooler

Are you uncomfortable with building yourself since you're new to pcs?

[sturdy stirrup]

No clue how pricing is in the us for the single parts, but where i live (italy) this is actually a decently good deal

[fringe swan]

Yes, but I feel a little more comfortable as far as upgrading it. Especially now that I have a prebuilt. Once I get it I can see where all the parts are and how everything works together.

I’m hoping, in the future, to swap out any parts that I need to and eventually getting high-end stuff. Like, I imagine I’ll probably want a ryzen 7. (From what I know so far)

[fringe swan]

Thank you for your input!

[crimson scroll]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pm8Qxs

That's totally fair

If I was on your budget this is what I would build, the gpu I would probably go for a 6700xt since you can get them for sub 400 at this point but you could even throw in a 6800xt and still be in budget

It's not great pricing in the US @sturdy stirrup but that's prebuilts for you

It's the price of convenience of single stop warranty and not needing to build

[fringe swan]

Damn, that’s cheaper than the prebuilt I purchased. Thank you, @crimson scroll I will definitely save that parts list and use it for reference when I start upgrading.

I appreciate your input!

[sturdy stirrup]

Upgrading the cpu in the future it’s a nice upgrade to that pre-built, i would suggest buying a ryzen cpu (R7 should do the trick if you plan on gaming for the most part) since the motherboard its a b550. Also, now that rtx 40th series are coming out pricies for the 30th series should drop a bit and considering a gpu update to would be a nice match with the cpu one

[crimson scroll]

R5 >r7 for just gaming in general

Exception is if you want the highest frames, then the 5800x3d

[sturdy stirrup]

Good to know, rn i’m building a pc for a friend with a 3070ti strix oc edition and a i5 12600k fully water cooled and the price it’s arround 2.3k €

[fringe swan]

Ooh. Damn that’s only $399 on Amazon right now…and something I’m willing to consider sooner than later

[fringe swan]

Okay!

[crimson scroll]

5800x3d goes on sale for 350 at this point

I'd watch r/buildapcsales for parts

[sturdy stirrup]

I had the r7 in mind only in case of a gpu update too, i’m worried the r5 could bottleneck something like a 3080

[crimson scroll]

Alternatively, get a 13600k over the 5800x3d if building a new system

But if you're upgrading your pre-built, the 5800x3d is the best drop in cpu you can get for gaming without needing a new motherboard

[fringe swan]

Okay, thank you! Do you typically recommend Intel CPUs over Ryzen?

Like. For future reference

I know everybody has their preference, and originally I was gonna go with the skytech Intel build but I changed my mind last minute

[crimson scroll]

No

I recommend based on what's best for your use case

And that recommendation changes generation to generation and CPU to cpu

Right now, for most people gaming, I'd pick the 13600k over the 7600x/7700x/5800x3d

[crimson scroll]

Also keep in mind prices fluctuate a lot and new parts come out all the time, so don't take this list as a source of truth

[fringe swan]

Ahh okay I got ya.

Thank you, seriously. Your opinion, input/recommendations helps a lot!!

[crimson scroll]

Np

Hope you enjoy your pc regardless of what you do

[sturdy stirrup]

Since i never did, imma post my own build just to see what you guys think about (this was my first ever build and i did everything by myself with the aid of YT videos)
Parts:
Motherboard (ROG Maximus Z690 Hero)

CPU (i9 12900k)

GPU (RTX 3070ti ROG Strix OC Edition)

RAM (32GB GSkill Trident Z5 rgb @6400hz)

PSU (ROG Thor 1200W Platinum)

Storage (Samsung SSD 980 Pro 1TB / Samsung SSD 980 500GB)

Fully watercooled with Corsair components

[fringe swan]

@sturdy stirrup while I’m not qualified to review your parts list, I can confidently tell you that case is super cool

[crimson scroll]

#archive-battlestations, looks good though

[sturdy stirrup]

Appreciate it G

[sturdy stirrup]

No idea there was such a channel for that, my bad ahah, thank you too kind sir

[ionic rapids]

been using it for a few days now, can already see about a 5-10 degree difference in temp and im even water cooling my cpu. this case is top tier for sure

[white ridge]

Hello guys, after a long time, saving and always having Gaming laptops, I want to set up my desktop computer and according to what I have been investigating and my budget, I can acquire the following:
Cooler Master Masterbox TD500 Mesh
ASUS ROG STRIX B660-F GAMING WIFI Hovedkort
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING
Intel Core i9-12900K
Kingston FURY Beast RGB DDR5-5200 C40 DC - 32GB
Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB
Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 500GB
ASUS ROG STRIX LC II 360 ARGB
Corsair HX1000i

I want to acquire these components as much as possible for black friday if I find any offer. this would be the main computer
but seeing that I can spend a little more, I have seen that I could acquire a better motherboard and among them are the following two:
ROG STRIX Z690-E
ROG STRIX Z690-F
I just don't know what its most important differences would be or how it would improve performance.
I accept recommendations and opinions of everything, I hope that many can help me in making my decision and if you think I should change another component, let me know and tell me why it would be better, all this will help me in my learning.
thank you all very much in advance. Cheers

[crimson scroll]

I wouldn't get a 12900k

For just gaming, 13600k is better

Might as well get gen 4 SSDs as well

[elfin dirge]

whats your psu?

that system will produce a lot of power, i would try to get 800+W

[crimson scroll]

Hx1000i

[elfin dirge]

oh

that should be enough

[crimson scroll]

Also you haven't listed any prices on these, I'd make a pcpartpicker list

The prices aren't always accurate but it's a good way to share

[elfin dirge]

yea

i mean thats easily $6k+

[crimson scroll]

Could probably get a 4080 instead of the 3090 depending on when you're buying

6k? Nah, too high

[elfin dirge]

idk

3090 is $1.5k

12900k is $800

that much ddr5 is like $1k

case, mb, etc is around $2k

so right around there

[crimson scroll]

It's not even highly ranked ddr5

It's like 250ish

Case is maybe 150

[elfin dirge]

ah

well im still kinda stuck in late-2020 prices

[devout wolf]

DDR5 would cost quite a bit in late 2020

[fringe swan]

What antivirus software do y’all use?

[static pecan]

Windows Defender FTW. At this point any third party antivirus is just a waste of resources and potentially more of a risk to your data

[devout wolf]

that and common sense is an incredible pairing

you could keep Malwarebytes around for the occasional scan (not scanning in the background all the time) when things get sketchy

[ripe olive]

my i9 is deide

dcd

my conputer is 2500 eur

[coral scroll]

Hey guys, how do I put temperature sensors on my motherboard?

[ripe olive]

apexe pro tkl or apexe pro tkl mini?

[coral scroll]

I got these temp sensors with my motherboard, its an ROG rampage VI extreme encore

[magic cedar]

do you learn that on yt cuz im scared to build my own pc in case i mess up the system

[sturdy stirrup]

Yep, watched a couple of vids on yt and figured it out myself, it’s honestly not that hard, in case you build it yourself and need help i would be glad to hell you figure out stuff

[magic cedar]

im scared that i mess up the system cuz if it is i have to look all over again

[sturdy stirrup]

As i said, it’s easier than it looks, just need a bunch of time and patience, i would be glad to help you if need any

[magic cedar]

ye maybe in few more years when i grab the part right now i stick with gaming laptop i also thinking to buy the 4080 or 4070 gaming laptop

[sturdy stirrup]

Years?

If you are talking about years i would say looking for parts it’s pretty useless rn

[spare mulch]

Yeah lmao , rtx 3060 is still good rn but in few years it will be viewed as the 1060 rn

[ancient raft]

Hi, not sure if this is the correct place, but I recently purchased a north bayou f80 and tried to mount my monitor, (HKC curved 27") but it seems that the vesa mount screws doesn't go all the way in so it's a bit loose when mounted. Is this supposed to be like this since the back of my monitor is a bit "curved"? Or should I buy a different set of screws? Thank you.

[fierce moat]

I messed up

I pulled the cpu out with my cooler in amd system

And rip cpu

It was a ryzen 7 5700g and all

[static pecan]

F

I did that once with an Athlon X4 880K in my old build. Luckily only a few of the pins were bent and I was able to fix them and get it working again

[crimson scroll]

Heat up the cpu first next time

Run some benchmarks

Then shut it down and wiggle the cooler off

[noble oak]

https://vrlatech.com/product/vrla-tech-apollo-gaming/

thoughts on this prebuilt?

1.2k price point

[crimson scroll]

Eh

[noble oak]

well?

are there better alternatives

that are budget friendly

[fiery blaze]

Prebuilt=trash, ryzen=bad, rgb... @noble oak

[last island]

Most times, building a pc will be cheaper than buying a prebuild with the same components. If you don't want to build a pc yourself, that's when a prebuild is the right choice for you. What NaggX says about Ryzen being bad is complete garbage.

I am not that deep in the PC Building thematic at the moment, what is your budget?

[noble oak]

yes, i'm aware diy is cheaper

which is why i opted for pre-built

[noble oak]

1.3k

[last island]

Currency? US-Dollars?

[noble oak]

usd

[last island]

Unfortunately, I have no idea what you get for 1.3K usd. Maybe someone else can help you though

[plucky oasis]

Guys what can I have for under 1000€

[blazing crow]

something like this specs

AMD RYZEN 5 5600X 6-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4 (Box Type) 2yrs. Warranty
Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC
TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB LED 16gb (2x8gb) 3600MHz DDR4 DESKTOP MEMORY - black D8GBX23600B
CRUCIAL P2 1TB M.2 SSD PCIe NVMe Gen 3 CT1000P2SSD8
SEASONIC S12 III 650W 80+ Bronze PSU SSR-650GB3
INPLAY ICE ONE ARGB FAN (add-on to Ice tower Kit) 7x
INPLAY ICE TOWER KIT 3in1 ARGB FAN w/remote
INPLAY ROBIN 101 WHITE Transparent Design ATX Gaming Case
MSI GeForce® RTX™ 3060 VENTUS 2X OC G57-V1B0337-Y47

i changed your currency to my currency, and checked some shops that offer some products in just 1000 euro, thats what i find

[plucky oasis]

Dude thank you so much

[blazing crow]

it looks like this tho

full tower build

i suggest uh b450 motherboard for full atx, and it has 2 ssd slots

and it suits really well with the robin build

[plucky oasis]

I know nothing about PC building, idk if this is good, can it play Star Citizen at atleast 30fps ?

[blazing crow]

idk what that game is, but since you possess 3060, it might be able to

it depends on the game whether its cpu intensive or gpu intensive i guess

[plucky oasis]

It's everything intensive

But I'll check this out, thanks

[nocturne folio]

Remember parts prices can vary massively by country (so what you can get with their country's currency in yours could be wildly different to what they can there)

[plucky oasis]

Yeah but I think my country isn't so much in demand

[fast delta]

wut

[sturdy stirrup]

As an example i’m currently looking to buy a rtx 4090 fe here in italy, the msrp instead of 1600$ as it is in the us ($ and € are pretty much worth the same, so would be around 1600€) but here in italy the msrp is 2000€ the equivalent of 2000$

[sturdy stirrup]

Since your currency is € may i ask where are u from?

[plucky oasis]

France

[sturdy stirrup]

No clue how to pricies are in france but should be lower than italy, you might be able to put something together with that budget

[sturdy stirrup]

If you have the time we could get in a discord call and i can help you choose the right parts

[pulsar fossil]

You can't compare American prices to European prices. They don't include sales tax in prices and we have import fees

[sturdy stirrup]

That was the point of my example, the impossibility pf comparing prices from different countries

[pulsar fossil]

Ah fair enough

[swift lodge]

what would be a good GPU to use with the Ryzen 3 2300X?

[elfin dirge]

probably one of the 10 series cards

1050 should be good

[crimson scroll]

Uhhh

No

[elfin dirge]

what

[crimson scroll]

1050ti is three generations old at this point

It's not good

[elfin dirge]

for a ryzen 3 2300x?

the shoe seems to fit

[crimson scroll]

You can get a 1650 or 580 for around the price of a 1050ti

There's not really a point to getting one unless you have strict pcie socket power or case compatibility requirements

[noble oak]

i believe it is better to go with the 1650, or even more powerful, as long as you plan on updating ur cpu soon and depends on what games and other parts as well. but you dont want to be running a 370+ with that. You will be bottlenecked

[devout wolf]

the b word

[tough vine]

Office Depot selling the RTX 4080 already. Listing at MSRP of 1199

Return policy good until Jan 24th even if you open it (according to their live chat). I just purchased one as a backup depending on what inventory looks like next week and with the AMD launch so I have time to decide. Wanted to share in case! https://www.officedepot.com/catalog/catalogSku.do?cm_cat=1001461934&id=7493495

[noble oak]

People say this card isnt worth 1200 bucks

The RTX 40 Series

What is your opinion

[tough vine]

It's not worth 1200 to me either, but it is faster than the 3090ti which is selling for about 1100 right now if you somehow find one in stock. So from a overall performance hierarchy, I'd still rather have the latest gen.

If I could get a 3090 ti for $900 or less, I likely would have just done that. I am strongly considering the 7900XTX for my primary desktop for gaming/editing/and streaming. It seems it will be great for streaming, but I'm not sure how well it will play with Adobe products. If the 7900XTX works well on Adobe Premiere Pro, I may finally switch back to team red

[novel rover]

what do you think about this then...

[tough vine]

I’d rather buy a car

[novel rover]

that would probably be more sensible at this price point

[elfin dirge]

id rather pay for a hospital trip

[keen ruin]

Hello everyone, I’ve decided to slowly start building gaming room and need someone opinion or suggestions. Pretty much my question is - if I want to build everything from 0 to “ultimate” gaming room, what amount of money should I expect to spend? Including up to date pc(preferably 4090 GPU), monitors, gaming table, all the accessories, LED’s etc.

If someone has experience with this, please let me know 🙂 Thanks in advance!

[crimson scroll]

Are you remodeling the room at all

I could see this easily going up to 20k

[keen ruin]

Yes, I will have a spare room for gaming only, I would like to know approximate ammount for gaming gear mostly. Not counting the room remodeling

This would be a good example

[crimson scroll]

4 to 5k for the pc, couple hundred to a half thousand per monitor depending on which you get, couple hundred for the peripherals

Speakers can vary wildly in price

The TV will probably be around a grand

[keen ruin]

So around 10-11 grand including headphones, keyboard and so on.

Thank you very much @crimson scroll !

[crimson scroll]

Sure

The lights can get pretty expensive too

The table I'm considering part of the room remodel but if you want a nice wood one, that'll easily run you a couple hundred to a thousand depending on size

A 72x30 is around 400 right now, but again depends on the kind of wood

[keen ruin]

Oh yeah, I'm ready for that 😄 Will not cheap out on the gaming room as it will be for me and my girlfriend as a relaxation room 😄 Have to mention - will have two setups in this room, so it's gonna be pretty sick when it's done!

[idle bridge]

true, altough Nvidia is still better for a lot of video editing and workstation tasks also still has much better raytracing.

So Nvidia is still kinda like, high end 4k raytracing / workstation cards, whereas AMD is still kinda high-mid end, with better value for money.

[tough vine]

Yup. Bought the 4080 yesterday. So much of my work utilizes NVENC +CUDA right now with my YT channel because of Adobe.

Although... I bought a Macbook Pro with the M1 Max recently and it runs Adobe products better than my stupid desktop

So no idea lol

[idle bridge]

yeah, makes it kinda hard to decide

right now, especially for the mid range Radeon is looking to be hugely better value / perf

[tough vine]

Even that is hard to say tbh.

We'll know more when real benchmarks come out, but leaks show the 4080 being only slightly faster for $200 more MSRP. When you factor in DLSS 3.0, NVENC, and Cuda though, there is still a value prop here. Both new cards support AV1 encoding which is huge (and awesome).

The older cards still show AMD and NVIDIA going back and forth between games and settings. With sales all over the place, it's hard to say one is really better than another at this point, especially if you have particular use cases that* benefits from one over the other

[idle bridge]

Pretty sure someone extrapolated some data by comparing the data shown at the AMD announcement and the data from the AMD website saying that 7900 xtx gets up to 139 fps in COD MW2

and the 4090 also gets around 139 fps

[tough vine]

CoD has a big performance advantage over Nvidia in general though

[idle bridge]

true

[tough vine]

Look at the 6900XT vs a 3090

[idle bridge]

but Linus tech tips also used the data from the slides they showed, the 1.7x performance in this and that game over 6950xt

[tough vine]

Wasn't that with FSR enabled though?

[idle bridge]

where 7900xtx looks about 1-2% slower than 4090 in Cyberpunk 2077 at 4k Ultra

[idle bridge]

no

dont think so

[tough vine]

Interesting. I'll def keep an eye out for GN to compare the top 4 new cards, power draw and temps included

I'd love to see how they stack up across the board, and if AMD further closed the gap on some production tasks

[idle bridge]

7900xtx is somewhere in the ballpark of 5-10% slower than 4090 on average at 4k

altough radeon usually is faster at lower resolutions

[tough vine]

That's crazy, I was seeing 5-10% slower than the 4080 lol

[idle bridge]

oh, lol

nah

also increasing reports of PCIE5 power cables melting

looks like a mix of too hard bends and not properly inserted power cables

[tough vine]

yeah that i'm aware of

[idle bridge]

cause its kinda tough to insert the new PCIE5 cables fully apparently

[tough vine]

In RDR2, the 4080 is 6% faster than 7900XTX. In CoD, 4080 is 10% slower.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/yqguwo/nvidia_geforce_rtx_4080_overclocking_and_4k/

Those leaks are why I just went with the 4080 for now. Once the 7900XTX becomes available I'll likely buy it and see how they compare for what I'm using it for. I don't really use Nvidia broadcast anymore

[idle bridge]

true

[tough vine]

Leaks are early and not super reliable though because they used different CPUs. At least they are close

If the 7900XTX was trading blows with the 4090 then it'd be an easy win for team red for sure, especially with DP 2.1 and lower price

[idle bridge]

ill try and wait until independent reviews come out

like

[tough vine]

yeah best call there

[idle bridge]

would love to see more competetion to fight Nvidias aggressive pricing

[tough vine]

Who am I kidding, I play games on the PC like once every 2 months lol. I'm building a new gaming PC for my 9 year old son, so he's getting my 2070S in that build with an i7. I figure this is the best time to upgrade my own PC

[idle bridge]

like, the MSRP for the 1080 was 599

[tough vine]

yeah that part hurts

[idle bridge]

now MSRP for an 80 series is easily 1200+

depending on where one lives

[tough vine]

yeah

I'm just going to write it off for taxes at this point lol. This market is insane now

The fact that intel is cheaper than an AMD build is crazy

[idle bridge]

bruh yeah

AMD used to be the mid and low range price to perf king, now its just kinda

there

like the 7000 series was def a flop, way too expensive mobos

[frosty skiff]

Literally building a PC for my 9 year old right now, that's funny. My wife is giving me crap for upgrading my PC and giving him my old mobo and CPU.

[idle bridge]

and 5800x3d still competes with the top SKUs for gaming perf

[idle bridge]

I dont really see what the problem is here, lol

like, you both recycle pc hardware, so less waste, and you get a due upgrade

[tough vine]

That's awesome! I basically bought a brand new Corsair case for him (with the three iCue fans). He's getting a liquid cooled i7-7700k with 32GB of RAM (my old Plex server build). That with a 2070S and some other new bits will still be an amazing gaming rig for a while

He primary plays a couple cpu light games on Steam (Brick Rigs and BeamNG Drive), and Roblox for the most part

[idle bridge]

Im kinda a cheapskate, haha, so ill likely wait for something like the 7800xt or 7700xt

[tough vine]

So the i7 is fine for that. He plays on an i3-3000 series and a 750ti right now and doesn't complain (even though those games do not run well). He does love when he gets to play on my computer though, so I feel this is a good/fair upgrade for him

[idle bridge]

750ti? I wish, lol

R9 M360

[frosty skiff]

hahaha exactly, it's environmentally friendly. I'm trying to figure out what to do GPU wise. I have a 3060 that I'd really like to upgrade and give to him but I've already exceeded the budget I had for this. I may buy a lower end AMD for him to get by, or take the 1660 out of the "family" computer his brothers use and let them just use the GPU on the intel CPU until I figure something out.

[tough vine]

Yeah that's a tough call. Originally I was looking at the ARC770 GPU for my Plex server, which has a 1070 in it right now. ARC has AVC1 and HDMI 2.1 for like $300. Performance is comparable to a 3060 as well.

[idle bridge]

depending on what your budget looks like, you could probably find a 1650 for 150-200 dollars

[tough vine]

But with some unknown driver issues, and known ones, I decided to just give him my 2070S and leave that system alone for now. It really needs an HDMI 2.1 card though

Hard part is 1650 is so slow for the money. A cheap 3060 is such an improved card

[idle bridge]

Yeah its much faster, but still much more expensive

[frosty skiff]

Truth, I bought mine a year ago for 3x what it is now, I think I saw $300 recently for a 3060.

[idle bridge]

something like 300-400 dollars

[idle bridge]

yeah if you find a good deal, like on newegg or something you would likely get it for that

Right now the cheapest I can find it for new is 370 dollars on Newegg

Inflation ;-;

[tough vine]

BBY is selling an AMD 6700 for $330 now

[idle bridge]

wow

[tough vine]

6500XT is $180 atm.. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6500-xt-gaming-oc-4gb-64-bit-gddr6-graphics-card-with-windforce-3x-fans/6496021.p?skuId=6496021

[frosty skiff]

I'm already $400 over budget so I'll have to wait a bit. Went with a Ryzen 9 5900x for my upgraded CPU (9 year old is getting my Ryzen 7 3700x).

[idle bridge]

not that good

its like

lacking a lot of functings

[tough vine]

Yeah 6500 is rough, still would run with the 1650 at least

[tough vine]

Damn if I had a way to hook you up with some HW I would lol

[frosty skiff]

Yeah, I think until Christmas I'll put in the 1660 super

[idle bridge]

6500 xt would barely run 1080p at 35 fps

[tough vine]

Makes sense

[tough vine]

gross

[idle bridge]

better than what I have

[frosty skiff]

haha thanks, he'll just be happy to not have to share with his brothers

[idle bridge]

My computer is basically a calculator running on potatoes

[tough vine]

Sounds like you're raising them right 🙂

[frosty skiff]

On that topic, I went with a Ryzen 9 5900x but thought long and hard about a Ryzen 7 5800x3D... thoughts on how they compare. What I read seemed to be all over the place.

[frosty skiff]

Trying to, I'll definitely make him sit and watch as I put it together. Maybe I'll let him do a few things but definitely won't get to touch the CPU or set the cooler until he's more coordinated.

[tough vine]

I had my son help with installing the PSU and some screws

[tough vine]

Purely for gaming, the 5800x3D is the better option for sure

5900 makes sense if you need to do more software based rendering/productivity tasks, Zip, virtualization, etc

[frosty skiff]

Thanks, that makes sense. I also use my PC for work and the gaming improvements seemed marginal compared to the processing power benefit for work when I looked at the benchmarks. I literally flipped a coin.

[tough vine]

Also - keep an eye on my channel this holiday. I told my viewers a month or two ago if I hit 20k subs before the holidays I'll be gifting some gaming/audio stuff 🙂

It seems like there's a real possibility/likelihood this is going to happen. I'll be mailing a headset or two, some wireless earbuds, at least a keyboard, and more.

Drawing will be random but it'd be cool if you or someone here won 🙂

[tough vine]

Yeah I think between the two the differences aren't massive, especially when you game at higher resolutions. And depending on GPU, you're GPU limited anyway

[frosty skiff]

Yeah for sure, that'll be my bottleneck regardless until I can save up and get a better one.

[tough vine]

Yeah, and it gets to a point where we start chasing frames and focus less on games so we're good lol

[wispy river]

Hi

[noble oak]

Do you guys use any windows tool to control PC fans?

[frosty skiff]

I only use Dragon Center scenarios for fan speed management

[noble oak]

Thanks. Will check it out. I'm currently using Argue monitor was looking for a replacement.

[fast delta]

4gb is too low

don't go with 4gb gpus

[whole creek]

So, I haven't commented here before. I was hoping to ask if anyone has an I9 10th or 11th gen CPU they could sell for cheap?

I need it for the new build

[onyx lodge]

I7 10th gen

[whole creek]

I want to get an I9, not an I7. Thank you tho!

[frosty skiff]

Anyone had issues with a "CPU Fan Error" on bootup when using the Corsair H150 on an ASUS mobo? I have the Corsair AIO (3-pin) plugged into the CPU fan (4-pin) on the mobo per the manual but I'm getting this error every time I bootup. If I enter the BIOS and then exit it boots up normal and the temps are fine.

[fast delta]

strange solved this ?

[frosty skiff]

The best thing I found googling was to just disable the error message lol

First time doing an AIO and I found it really odd Corsir wanted me to plug the AIO into the CPU Fan port and then not actually change any settings for the fan but I'm assuming all the controls happen through the commander pro it plugs into.

[sacred crypt]

Stuck between getting a used 3070 and a new 6750xt. Currently Using an 11700f and a 1660S, so im on the fence rn about which gpu to get.

[crimson scroll]

Prices?

[sacred crypt]

Both are roughly the same rn @crimson scroll

350-400$

I don’t mind a $20 difference, if it means a better performance/more reliability from a component

[crimson scroll]

They're mostly the same

Difference comes in Ray tracing or non game workloads

If you don't care about those, go with what's cheaper imo

[sacred crypt]

What about power consumption? I’ve checked a lot of videos and benchmarks and they also look mostly the same. Is that true?

[crimson scroll]

Yep

225 vs 250w if I remember correctly

[agile ether]

Best GPU under 450

[sacred crypt]

Is that a question or a statement?

[dusty zinc]

u need to go to bios and disable monitor for cpu fan cause u dont have a cpu fan u have an aio cooler

[hardy pasture]

This isn't really a question about building a PC, rather it is a question about a mouse setup. Will glass mouse skates actually start to damage a cloth mousepad or is that just a rumor?

[noble oak]

3060 ti

or

6700xt

[fading relic]

4090 ti i got mine for 2 dollars

[agile ether]

From wish?

[pulsar fossil]

A sticker of a gpu doesn't count 😅

[noble oak]

Best ATX case for best airflow?
Has to be on bigger size for the gpu

[noble oak]

Thinking about the Fractal Torrent ATX

[frosty skiff]

My 14 year old wants a gaming PC for xmas, I'm trying to do it for $800 in a way that he can upgrade over time. Any thoughts on this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/28m7H2

[frosty skiff]

Depends on your budget. I've heard great things about the Corsair 5000D Airflow and it should be more than big enough for your GPU

[noble oak]

Anything lower budget that fits a cpu watercooler too?

[static pecan]

The be quiet! 500DX is also a good option that can be had for usually $90-$100. I'm using it with my own 5900X/6800XT rig and it's been working great. The stock fans are solid and it fits a 360mm AIO at the front while still having enough room for a 320-something mm GPU (ASRock Taichi 6800XT)

[crimson scroll]

Low budget and watercooling?

Curious why you'd want your case to be even cheaper but still want an aio

[noble oak]

is the 3060 ti founders edition worth it?

i've heard founder edition cards heat up fast

i could either get the founders edition from best buy or the zotac version from amazon

both $399

[ivory owl]

what??

[fading relic]

this looks pretty solid, i think you can fit a better gpu if you go for a cheaper case tho

[noble oak]

I dont feel like spending 250€ on a tin can but will still do it sadly

[stable dagger]

will the 11th work on the z490 chip?

[lapis obsidian]

send me a link to ur cpu

and motherboard

[stable dagger]

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/542151-plyta-glowna-socket-1200-msi-mag-z490-tomahawk.html

motherboard

[lapis obsidian]

show me cpu

[stable dagger]

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/626762-procesor-intel-core-i7-intel-core-i7-11700kf.html

[lapis obsidian]

yes

that would work

they both use lga 1200 chips

[stable dagger]

thx

[little ermine]

Any techy guys here knows about RAM oc?

I got a 3600mhz corsair vengeance rgb pro with a cl18-22-22-22-42 config but the ryzen 5600x can only support upto 3200mhz

Whats weird is when you select XMP it and just run 3200mhz its unstable

Turns out, I have to set the default 1.35v to 1.4v.

Is 1.4v safe in long term?

[rustic hearth]

About to buy a PC for streaming to my laptop, and have questions if my headset will still work properly.

is the wired Steelseries Nova Pro for PC compatible with an Elgato 4K60 capture card?

is this headset also compatible with Elgato Steam Deck?

[magic cedar]

For gaming monitor with 240hz 1ms and my gaming laptop got 300hz 3ms

So for 240hz 1ms and 300hz 3ms which one is faster

does 240hz 1ms overkill 300hz 3ms because 300hz is not even 1ms

If so then I might think I'll get esport gaming monitor with 360hz 1ms

[dapper vector]

@magic cedarget 360hz 1ms some people dont see much of a difference beyond 144 so u should be fine

[little ermine]

this im curious how you'll set it up. Got a workaround for the audio output? Not sure if any capture card can past through the audio along the HDMI given you;ll be outputting your game audio on your gaming headset

I tried streaming from a seperate computer and the challenge I encountered before is the audio output. Game audio, game chat and mic is coming out on my PC but the laptop only gets the video output and no sounds.

or at some case, with HDMI audio output, it will only send the game's sound to the capture card but not along with the chat channel and mic

[rustic hearth]

well i bought my pc yesterday and capture card is coming tomorrow. i was told by the best buy associate that was very knowledgeable that I would have no issues. And I would assume the audio would go from the “line out” of the cant mixer into the microphone jack on your laptop or desktop you’re streaming on

chat *

[little ermine]

if you have a condenser mic that you can plug into the streaming laptop as your chat input audio

since the mic on your headset will output to the PC game

hope you put some update here how you managed it

[rustic hearth]

i believe the “ line out & line in” is how you transfer your audio between pc’s

[little ermine]

this im not quite familiar of

I really havent used any line in & out

so Line Out > Capture card?

[rustic hearth]

i honestly don’t have the best idea either, i think it’s line out > microphone jack in streaming pc

[little ermine]

looks like you'll really gonna test it out

[rustic hearth]

yeah lol but i’m sure it won’t take too long to figure out, my friend is using a similar set up

[magic cedar]

Does 360hz 1ms fine with 4080 and 13700KF

Some people got 360hz with 3090 and i9

[dapper vector]

well what r u trying to achieve

[magic cedar]

fps game

[dapper vector]

yeah i’m pretty sure you’ll be fine w a 4080 and 13700

4k or 2k?

[magic cedar]

360hz resolution usually are FHD

I might start build a pc next year so rn I’m looking at the monitor

[dapper vector]

ah well for a fps game u should be good don’t know any sane person that plays fps games on 4k

[magic cedar]

i could go for ViewSonic elite 25inch with 360hz or I go for cooler master 27inch 165hz with QHD or 160hz with UHD

[dapper vector]

with 165hz the 4080 and 13700 will definitely out do the monitor

[magic cedar]

Thanks

[dapper vector]

np