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tulip glen
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bro u sure urs omini?

fiery flame
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and the tkl that have 2.0 omnipoint switch

near pulsar
fiery flame
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for apex pro " old " omnipoint it was 1.0

tulip glen
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mine shwoed with firmware update there

fiery flame
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but get update to 2.0

tulip glen
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so u have it alrdy

near pulsar
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Original Apex Pro has Omnipoint, and has the firmware updates to 2.0 already

tulip glen
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according to ur page

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urs active alrdy

near pulsar
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I can't chagne the rapid trigger details though

tulip glen
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ofc nopt

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they not that good

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to apply it as good as wooting or razer

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took them 2years

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t o update the feature wooting has ...

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while the switch is literally same hall effect switch

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and wooting has 2-3 devs i think

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๐Ÿ˜ž

near pulsar
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Wooting also has two products vs SS/Razer's how many products?

tulip glen
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bro dnt matter

viscid herald
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Is it still not possible to set a reset point?

tulip glen
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they gotta have enoug hman power

wary trench
tulip glen
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to update better than wooting

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they got hall effect siwtch firstly

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then wooting

wary trench
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Apex pro was released in 2019

tulip glen
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but the gg firmware

near pulsar
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Wooting's switches are proprietary aren't th ey?

idle echo
tulip glen
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so much behind

near pulsar
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they're not the Gateron switches that SS uses

viscid herald
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Is it still not possible to set a reset point?

tulip glen
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they are similar tho

fiery flame
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idk why, but I hate the trend to bought " wooting " kb

near pulsar
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Similar =/= same

fiery flame
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because some pro use it

idle echo
fiery flame
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I bought a apex pro tkl because I know steelseries last i'm kid

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so idc about trend kb

tulip glen
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steelseries is big enough company

near pulsar
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The Apex Pro isn't my main keyboard anyway - I like clicky heavy switches

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just wanted to test the feature out

tulip glen
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to keep up with wooting since day 1

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i d k why they dont want to

near pulsar
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My guy, you don't understand how companies work

fiery flame
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the only kb I buy last 2014 are

tulip glen
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like we all see the wooting featuire

fiery flame
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steelseries and corsair kb

tulip glen
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probably all reproducable

idle echo
tulip glen
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on apex pro

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but steelseries dont want to

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or they just dont realise they need to

fiery flame
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I tried coolermaster razer too but my fav was 6GV2 Apex raw Corsair Strafe K70 and K100

near pulsar
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I'm using a Nuphy Field 75 with Gateron G Pro Greens now

tulip glen
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@idle echo it affects sales of apex pro heavily alrdy since 2020

near pulsar
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Hall effect is too light anyway

fiery flame
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logitech keyboard is shit

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but good mouse

tulip glen
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theres none recommend this keyboard even over optical siwtch keyboard

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cause htey said the things u can do with halleffeect switch is just change actuating point whcih is alrdy low enough on optical switch and its just no point

near pulsar
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What are you even talking about? So many YouTubers recommended the Apex Pro line of keyboards from the get go when they were released

tulip glen
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nah im sure it wasnt that good

near pulsar
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Hall effect overall is a neat feature, but the full capability isn't that useful to most people

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It's a gimmick for most

tulip glen
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the keyboard selling at historically low discount

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since 2020

near pulsar
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Probably cos Apex Pro 2.0 is coming out or something to that effect

tulip glen
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i think apex 2019 at 120euro and 2023 tkl 160euro

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and its bheen like this forever

near pulsar
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Just like how the Logitech Superlight went on discount before the announcement of Superlight 2

tulip glen
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since it aint hot sales

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n1 intreested in a keyboard which only has option to change actuating point

fiery flame
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I tested several mechanical keyboards, about ten, and almost all the cherry mx switches, that of khail, and some keyboards have trouble managing latency, and despite having mechanical switches, they sometimes have latency compared to other brands that have exactly the same switch, probably because the metal plate of the keyboard and the electronics inside do not allow the potential of the switches to be used

near pulsar
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Literally $120 USD off the Superlightjust before SUperlight 2

fiery flame
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so better to bought good kb

tulip glen
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they would have sold out their apex

fiery flame
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I'm waiting the superlight 2

tulip glen
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if they have same feature like wooting 2years ago

near pulsar
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I'm satisfied with Superlight 1, but really like the Prime Wireless

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Shame mine has issues but I can't be bothered resolving them

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Prime has excellent shape imo

tulip glen
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well i have bloody keyboards and razer huntsman tournament edition and apex pro tkl 2023 atm

near pulsar
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Bro, if you don't like the keyboard, why are you even here

tulip glen
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and even with rapid trigger i dont feel that apex pro tkl 2023 is faster than razer huntsman tournament edition

fiery flame
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razer is shit

tulip glen
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the strength of 1.0mm optical and 3.4mm total travel vs 4.0mm omini point total travel

fiery flame
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trust me razer is shit

tulip glen
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nah it aint shit

fiery flame
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Bro

tulip glen
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hunsman tournament edition is good

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other razer keybaord maybe shit

near pulsar
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I use the adjustable actuation point on different keys

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I don't just set something to 1mm or whatever the max is

fiery flame
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their use khail switch made in china and sell fucking expensive kb

near pulsar
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that's what I like about the Apex Pro

tulip glen
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but its literally the comfy keyboard u can get and 3.4mm travel is hard to find

fiery flame
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that doesn't make any difference of other kb

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razer do good headphone / mouse

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but keyboard is scam

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and fucking expensive

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for what their give

tulip glen
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razer huntsman torunament edition costed my 64 euro

near pulsar
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Their switches are meh

tulip glen
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broooo it aint expensiveee

near pulsar
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not bad, not great

fiery flame
tulip glen
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apex pro 2023 tkl i paid 170

fiery flame
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it's middle quality

tulip glen
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and bloody 30euro

near pulsar
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I paid $100 AUD for my Apex Pro

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I even bought it second han dlmao

fiery flame
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I'm working in hardware and software and I tried a lot of product

tulip glen
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well i boguht brandnew

near pulsar
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Shit still works

fiery flame
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and razer is middle quality

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but very expensive

tulip glen
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cheap man

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wdf razer expensive

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at ebay

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razer is most cheap

fiery flame
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ebay

near pulsar
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Have you seen the Viper Signature lol

fiery flame
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but when you bought it new

tulip glen
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if u buyfrom official then might be

near pulsar
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Explain how that is cheap

tulip glen
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no i bought it new

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but just 50% of their listting price

fiery flame
tulip glen
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cause i d k how these ppl get cheaper razer products

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but they do

near pulsar
tulip glen
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razer isnt expensive

fiery flame
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I used the qck heavy mousepad

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but I replace it for artisan zero

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because my logitech g pro superlight was not good with it

near pulsar
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Razer MSRP is high, retailers selling them for cheap doesn't make them cheap by MSRP standards

fiery flame
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in low sens

near pulsar
fiery flame
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artisan zero is expensive asf in mousepad but the quality is very high

near pulsar
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Can't remember which ones

tulip glen
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retailers selling razer wayyy below msrp

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thats what makes razer popular

fiery flame
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@tulip glen I tried a lot of razer

near pulsar
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Razer is meh. Good entry point but that's it to me

fiery flame
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black widow 2014 2016 2018 orange switch green

tulip glen
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most of razer not thatgood

fiery flame
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blue

tulip glen
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but the huntsman tournament edition

near pulsar
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Though their very old Microsoft/Razer Habu

tulip glen
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and new huntsman

near pulsar
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Now THAT was a great mouse

tulip glen
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not that bad

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new huntsman tho went back

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from 1.0mm to 1.5mm and 15gf more

fiery flame
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razer basilisk v2 have big latency " the mouse "

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Also, I was better on cs go with a spirit of gamer mouse that cost me 20$

near pulsar
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lol my G Pro Greens are 80g weight

fiery flame
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than a razer deathadder

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in 2019

near pulsar
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I wanted MX Greens, but couldn't find an RGB version

tulip glen
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btu razer mouse

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if u see

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they really cheap

fiery flame
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expensive for cheap quality

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zzzzz

tulip glen
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nah

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i think ppl usually

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find razer products

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cheaper

near pulsar
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DeathAdder is great value

tulip glen
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thats the reason

near pulsar
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but the base DA

tulip glen
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they buy it

near pulsar
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All the others are not cheap or worth it

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Even the Aerox 5 Wireless isn't worth it at full retail

tulip glen
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u can clearly tell

near pulsar
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NOthing is wroth it at full value

tulip glen
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everything razer sell

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is like

near pulsar
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So it's a moot point

tulip glen
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use price tag to win the quality products

near pulsar
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If no one is paying retail for anything, then it's a moot point to bring up price

tulip glen
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so they win in better value

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not everyone like to pay 200euro for keyboards

near pulsar
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not every one pays in Euros or has to pay VAT

tulip glen
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and razer there selling a lot of keybaords below 80 90euro

near pulsar
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Yeah, good for you. Not he case in the rest of the world dude

tulip glen
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well maybe

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i mean just an example why razer is successful

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they have more products in low price tag

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i think steelseries and logitech dont really sell cheap products like razer may do

near pulsar
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Pretty sure all the main gaming manufacturers have products that are accessible to all the target markets

tulip glen
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not as cheap as razer can get

grave skiff
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I want 2~3.0mm rapid trigger, no deadzone ..

near pulsar
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So?

tulip glen
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i mean ppl may hate razer

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but they still buy from razer

near pulsar
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No one here is hating Razer

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There are jsut alternatives

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Like if you like Razer so much

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Why are you here?

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Complaining to a Steelseries channel

tulip glen
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not complaining he says razer is expensive

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but its commen sense that razer tend to sell very cheap products to make their profit

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i dont really think razer has "high" quality keyboards for example

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not as high as the standard of wooting/apex pro

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thats why they not have hall efect switch yet

sonic blade
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1 day of hyper trigger

inner sequoia
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gg 45 version officially updated? I don't think it's perfect

last fjord
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I can't use my keyboard rapid trigger,Help me.

minor wedge
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im lovin it

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also i think we are not supposted to have it

mellow sapphire
minor wedge
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its not officialy launched

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it just was on the cdn database

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and someone found it

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i was olso trying to find it

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but someone found it before me

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anyways i have it now

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not complaining

mellow sapphire
fiery flame
mellow sapphire
zealous raven
fiery flame
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u need to update the software

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steelseries gg version

sonic blade
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im j playing guys i only played the last game w rapid trigger but i was moving different fr placebo or not

sonic blade
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but only on wasd

fiery flame
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0,1 ?????

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it's not too low for valorant ?

sonic blade
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felt ok for me but i think its cause i got used to .2 before rapid trigger

fiery flame
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oh ok

grave skiff
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sungshimdang bread not fried goroke, it's soboro

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lol

dark obsidian
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.1 on wasd 123 zxc and thats it lol

sonic blade
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ye

fiery flame
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0,1 look too low for me

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I'm not counter strafing in val

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idk why ppl do it

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it's useless asf

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you can move and just release the key

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if your first bullet are good it's k

dark obsidian
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its useful in cs more

fiery flame
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y in cs go

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but in valorant the difference is 1 ms

dark obsidian
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because the movement is different

fiery flame
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but in kb like apex pro and wooting

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last it's fast kb

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you're not forced to counter strafe at all

dark obsidian
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when you let the switch go you can tell the differences from cs and val

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trust lmao

fiery flame
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also valorant look more easier compared to cs

dark obsidian
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sheesh

dark obsidian
fiery flame
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y game sense abilities

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but soloq in val is toxic and shit

dark obsidian
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cs is all about trading your team / map awareness

fiery flame
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in EU server

dark obsidian
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a lot of val kids dont got map awarenes lol

dark obsidian
fiery flame
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Nah EU ppl is toxic asf

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and i'm in the shittest country in the world

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of EU

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in video game

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France

sonic blade
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LOL

fiery flame
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french ppl are the most and the shittest ego toxic player you can meet

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in valorant

dark obsidian
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i no longer play val cause of the character pool bth

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i really dislike how their adding so many more characters

fiery flame
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me I'm bored of ppl in my country because when i try to play with them

dark obsidian
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and that the players just dont really know how to play the game properly

fiery flame
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their do stupid action and trash talk ppl

dark obsidian
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cs is the same with shit players but eh

fiery flame
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and have problem with " want to be superior " than other

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so idk

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I'm trying to find a duo but of other country and calm like me

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not toxic just focus

mellow sapphire
tired merlin
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???

rancid thicket
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rapid trigger lol

minor wedge
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yes i have it too

dark obsidian
minor wedge
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its too sensetive

dark obsidian
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very cool

minor wedge
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yes

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indeed

dark obsidian
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its fine for me sincei play cs

tired merlin
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u can set it i believe

minor wedge
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elsa do you have it

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gg 45

tired merlin
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yeah

minor wedge
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i tried to find the setup file hidden on thair servers too

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but someone else found it

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so we are not supposed to have it

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but im not complaining

potent obsidian
# fiery flame in low sens

i have the exact same qck heavy mousepad with low sens and superlight, how highly do you recommend to switch mousepad to artisan zero. also what issue did you have with the qck heavy, i have used mine for soo long that I dont know how a better mousepad compares.

vale laurel
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when will dean be online?I have many questions about rapid trigger

fiery flame
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and the artisan zero was better at all for me

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more accuracy / fast flick

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like more stable aiming

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same if you do flick

potent obsidian
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ok thanks, i already have great aim so maybe this would really help me

fiery flame
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also low sens is better

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with artisan zero

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I'm using 0.315 in valorant

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800 dpi

potent obsidian
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is there a specific model or is that the name

fiery flame
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It's

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Artisan Zero Classic Xsoft XL

potent obsidian
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ok thanks

fiery flame
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th emousepad in xl version is good

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with a tkl kb

potent obsidian
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xxl? or xl

fiery flame
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XL

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but better to have a tkl kb

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if you use xl versin

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I switch apex pro full size to apex pro tkl 2023

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because it

wheat cave
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Is there anyone who knows that rapid trigger stroke? I think as not senstive that I expected.

zealous raven
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How can I update the firmware?

potent obsidian
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aight, i got a small keyboard

rotund gust
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hi can anyone help me? i had to reset my apex pro because it spamed w y + and stuff so it broke my pc now i have to do my rgb lightning again and i dont got the options i had before

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before i was able to change the speed of the lightling and the brightness of the colors now there is nothing

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i am on the newst version like before

dull chasm
stuck tangle
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wat

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what does wobbling has to do with anything and besides hall switches are all wobbly

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u do realize orings are used on fixed places for sealing right

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u think sealing parts wobble?

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it is your stupid ass switches aka garbage cherry mx designs and copies thereby, that are underdeveloped neatherthals

warped root
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firmware1.13.2??

stuck tangle
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that's like saying u want your nike to be bang for bucks so even if your feet are better suited to an altra u intentionally gimp them like wearing female pradas

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there is no 0.01 tho is there

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also 9800 avago and pln same era or later rated 0.1mm lod

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how does this prove a dead zone

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actually u don't need games to test, just typing is enough

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skill issue

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the force is the same down and up dude quite smokin

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maybe u psychologically feel a difference but there isn't one

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it's literally like the same graph going up and down and don't watch "testers debunk this and that"

stuck tangle
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jerking movements is just abusing arcady nature of inferior and dated game designs

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no there's a pre pressure

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look at the graph

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and like try with some small enough weights, u won't have the keycap move for a range until u add a bit more then it moves

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also the nature of the springs there's a certain lagginess to it as well simply because they need to be held in place the end points are not the same as the mid section and it's the end points getting compressed first, that + how the switch is assembled, and that the springs on any switch are not glued in place

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even if they are held tight

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  • my og batch apex pro with the numerous spring noises
vale laurel
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@half dust Hi Is the reset point of RT 0.1mm?

timid ledge
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a

fierce axle
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please share link to download hyper trigger

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i cant find gg.45 i am only seeing 44 on their website

half dust
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Please don't share links to unreleased GG software. ๐Ÿ™‚

minor wedge
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Well dean

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its a bit to late

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i already have the file

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its awesome

half dust
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๐Ÿ˜‰

minor wedge
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why did you change the name from hypertrigger to rapid trigger tho

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i wonder how many people got the file

dark obsidian
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a ton i assume

left hound
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I did. At first i almost installed it, but i tought its a virus xD .... Moved it to trash bin and just 5 seconds ago i restored it, because seems like its legit

dark obsidian
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wouldnt doubt that people also were sharing it lol

minor wedge
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i uploaded the file to mediafire

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but it was thair mistake

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the uploaded it to thair cdn servers

dark obsidian
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and people were checking up on it or wha?

minor wedge
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but the official update is coming tmrw i belive

minor wedge
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someone found it

dark obsidian
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ah

minor wedge
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do you have it?

dark obsidian
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yeah

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yeah

fierce axle
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ya but when you click download on the website it automatically downloads .44

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dont know how to change it to .45

rancid thicket
tired merlin
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then dont

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tmr we will get it

half dust
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Once it's finished testing and everything else we need to do, it'll be made available. ๐Ÿ˜„

fair briar
stark otter
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@half dust
Does the content of this link contain a virus?

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I afraid...

half dust
fair briar
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okay ๐Ÿ‘

vale laurel
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Really need an ability to adjust the RT range

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And please do not lock any dead zone

half dust
# vale laurel Really need an ability to adjust the RT range

It's already a feature in the upcoming release to be able to set the range of rapid trigger, unless I'm misunderstanding you? You will be able to set the starting actuation of RT to any spot in the range of 0.1mm to 4.0mm. When I was playing games I usually had it set the start point at 0.4mm so I didn't set it off just by resting my fingers on the keys.

vernal viper
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Why did you change the name from Hypertrigger to Rapidtrigger

half dust
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cuz it's cooler ๐Ÿ˜Ž

vale laurel
half dust
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lapin trigger? ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿฐ

vernal viper
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Does it come out the same as the GG45 version that some people have?

dark obsidian
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lapon

sick aspen
vale laurel
vernal viper
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I'm using apex protkl 2023, and some keys work alone, what should I do with this? @half dust

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A lot of people seem to be putting this together

half dust
viscid herald
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when is the official release

vale laurel
grand seal
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big fan of rapid trigger

vernal viper
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Rusu seems to be asking if the key action can be 0.2mm for example and the rapid trigger can be 0.1mm

languid prism
vale laurel
languid prism
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also how the fuck did people find the unreleased version

grand seal
languid prism
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makes sense

languid prism
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man just code name it "penisdenis switch edition"

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no one could find that link

grand seal
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so true

vale laurel
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I think it's the distance to release after bottoming out

half dust
# vale laurel yes, that's what it means

I'm afraid I'm still not following, but right now you can only set the start point/range of RT, and cannot modify other parameters in Engine. RT will interpret any upward motion as a release so the release sensitivity is set at 0.1mm.

vale laurel
vale laurel
viscid herald
half dust
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Again, once RT is out to everyone, please spend some time with it and post in #1070392859125104660 with any further suggestions. ๐Ÿ˜‰

sour prism
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Will it be out to everyone today? I can't wait anymore๐Ÿฅน

candid agate
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Basically this I think?

languid prism
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will the version that is going to be released , have more options than this unreleased version

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for RT

grand seal
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holy cow

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rapid trigger is so nice

vale laurel
vale laurel
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Similar to the function of analog gamepad

grand seal
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Are they saying release is 0.1 but not the input after?

livid mason
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I used it, but I think people are under the mistaken impression that the change from other APs to 0.1 makes them RT.

rancid thicket
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sorry bro

spark pebble
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English only?

half dust
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Please remember to follow server rules, this server is English only. Thanks!

viscid herald
frozen slate
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Is the previous mysterious link a real update link?

spark pebble
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I think it will come soon. Lets wait patiently.

vale laurel
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I hope the official version will be greatly improved

grand seal
# grand seal yes

it's a link to their database basically, where the update is stored

livid mason
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You need to wait until the official release, if you have a problem with it, buy Woothing or Drunkdeer

scenic bough
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Dankdeer?

livid mason
scenic bough
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Still dont know what that is lmao

livid mason
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It's a keyboard that RT can use

scenic bough
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Oh so like wooting

silent lake
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where url?

sullen robin
spark pebble
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I can't wait for the official release ๐Ÿ˜Ž

tired merlin
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(Dynamic Keystroke)

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just like wooting

hallow coral
hallow coral
hallow coral
hallow coral
dark obsidian
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dog_concern whaaaaaaat

tired merlin
hallow coral
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someone had post it here but you are not suppose to post it hit my dm if you have any questions ๐Ÿ˜‰

tired merlin
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want change release ssensitivity

hallow coral
tired merlin
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.1 is too sensi for me

dark obsidian
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I hope they add it eventually / before launch

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Iโ€™d love to have that thatโ€™s one edge wooting has currently Iโ€™d say

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Iโ€™m just gonna turn it off on those till then

hallow coral
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yeah I doubt they will because this was uploaded time ago

dark obsidian
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And only have my movement / items on

grim bane
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can someone send me the link the update or where can i find it? the twitter link is dead

tidal oriole
strange moth
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What happened

tidal oriole
strange moth
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Officially?

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Cause last few days ppl been like tripping over leaked builds and stuff

mossy trail
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can I get a link?

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or is it not allowed or something

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idk the topic..

limber maple
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does anyone kknow how to unlock the wwindows key oon an aapex pprro mini

tidal oriole
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if thats what you mean

tidal oriole
limber maple
strange moth
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hold steelseries key and then windows ket

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key

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theres also the right windows key but im on apex pro 2019 so idk

fierce axle
#

When I set my activation on engine everything seems fine but when I manually check it on the keyboard the activation will be something different

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Does anyone know why this is?

round fjord
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Ignore the keyboard one

sullen robin
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Engine sets the actuation per key, the keyboard buttons/oled sets it on the entire keyboard. keyboard buttons will override the engine actuation so if you go in to check the keyboard will change it.

fiery flame
#

you use what in actuation point with rapid trigger ?

inner dune
#

how to get rapid trigger for my apex pro tkl 2023

potent obsidian
#

guys, is there continous rapid trigger like from the wooting? (the setting that you can enable in the advanced settings in wooting software, default disabled)

fair briar
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theres only rapid trigger toggle button for now

grave narwhal
#

I set actuation to 2mm and I press until key is activate and release to 1mm rapid trigger still working at 1mm

potent obsidian
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hmm

fair briar
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now that i can finally use rt on osu! its actually insane how much better i can play now

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passed maps i couldnt before

grave narwhal
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without continuous rapid trigger it's not possible to rp at 1mm while set actuation at 2mm

fair briar
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yea it seems like cont. rt is on by default

grave narwhal
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that's why I feel like I always miss spell on my apex pro even I set actuation to 2mm

blissful violet
#

how do u guys have rapid trigger already? ๐Ÿ’€ (help a brotha out)

cosmic pine
#

wait so rapid trigger out

hallow coral
cosmic pine
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ok

hallow coral
shut agate
# half dust I'm afraid I'm still not following, but right now you can only set the start poi...

"Starting from a state where no action has been taken on the key, let's assume the set actuation point is 1mm.

  1. It becomes an input state when pressed down below 1mm.

  2. It remains in the input state when the key is pressed anywhere

3.between 1mm and the lowest point at 4mm.
When the key rises by 0.1mm from any point below 1mm, the input state is released.

4.When the key descends again from any point below 1mm, it re-enters the input state.

Is this interpretation correct?"

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No matter how many actuation points are set, if the key rises 0.1mm, is the key detected as released?

half dust
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Your interpretation sounds correct. ๐Ÿ™‚

#

the only thing I would add on is that if the key is released above the set actuation level such as 1.0mm (so anywhere from 0.1>0.9) then the key will be fully released and RT state would be off until the key gets back down to 1.0mm

shut agate
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thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

wheat cave
#

I hope user can set RT stroke...like wooting. I know that current GG45 is not released, but I expect that it won't be different with released version.

stuck tangle
stuck tangle
stuck tangle
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plus your installation. evne if it is fresh new kb+ rings

arctic flame
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SteelSeriesโ€™ implementation of Hyper Trigger might have just dethroned the Wooting. Once we get to adjust the dead zone itโ€™ll be even better. Hopefully.

stuck tangle
# tired merlin (Dynamic Keystroke)

shift and ctrl has been used for ages isn't it easier cleaner less flaky to control than this faux macro bs on one key, and plus who needs to spam sprint when u just press Z to prone and camp from 600m+ like a real military savvy

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i mean it's not a bad feature, it's not like as important as a progressive spring

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and better stability

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plus if they make such a big deal out of these features they will continue to NEVER make built in progressive damping and stablization

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which already is "has been"

rain basalt
#

When can the adjustable lift travel be available? Locking at 0.1mm is also too quick.

stuck tangle
stuck tangle
#

also something a lot more intuitive is from game client side where u click and it toggle, and if u hold then it just hold so you can quick release, u don't need any fancy keyboarding, any keyboard can do

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  • i've never whiffed that with any keyboard even if it is just lineup+minimap+etc (inventory?) panel(screen..whatever)
sonic blade
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but from the rapid trigger description thing it seems like itll be added

stuck tangle
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???????

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rt is 0.1mm now did u not read chat

sonic blade
#

from what i understand i thought your prev message was saying that you can adjust rt separately from the actuation point

stuck tangle
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u wanted 0.2 actuation 0.1 ht

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it is there

sonic blade
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oh ok i get it

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mbmb

void forum
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how to get rapid triggers

thick root
#

Is Rapid Trigger 0.6 fixed?

void forum
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DUDE

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HOW TO GET IT

thick root
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Or if I set the input point to 0.1, will the repeat trigger also be 0.1?

void forum
#

oh

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lmao

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lmao virus

naive sonnet
#

im using that link. it really is version 45 with rapid trigger

tired merlin
keen swan
#

excuse me , where can i download rapid trigger?

tired merlin
#

here

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you could just wait for the full releases, it will up today

keen swan
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i see

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thanks for ur help

tired merlin
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np

keen swan
#

i ll try it now

past mulch
#

did the name change from Hyper Trigger to Rapid Trigger?

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Or did you name it Rapid Trigger because the version now is a beta version?

tired merlin
#

changed

void forum
dusky pelican
#

wjat aboutโ€ฆ rap tiger

round fjord
#

yeah my pc is ratted sadge

round fjord
dusty iris
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worth it tbh

round fjord
#

so worth

dusty iris
#

now u can click fast but ur personal info may be exposed lmfao

round fjord
#

although rapid trigger does nothing for me

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rapid trigger on celeste CB_pray

void forum
#

Can the rgb be customized outside of the gg engine?

void forum
#

if u log all the request u do on the site its the actual one

round fjord
#

smartest rapid trigger user right here

void forum
round fjord
round fjord
void forum
sour prism
#

Will it really be released today๏ผŸ

restive tundra
haughty shale
#

guys how do i disable the angle snapping on my mouse on steelseries gg

restive tundra
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It's usually a setting under the mouse inside of Engine

sterile fox
#

any info on rapid trigger deadzone?

restive tundra
arctic flame
#

Imagine that link is actually spicy and SteelSeries is going to sue all of us for breaking their terms of service (?)

arctic flame
#

Not the 1 year warranty

scenic bough
#

We got it a day early its fine

sterile fox
#

unless

stuck yew
#

rapid trigger is coming tomorrow or the 25th?

arctic flame
#

It should be today if the leaks are solid I think

dusty plinth
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PLZ apex pro tkl can user make possible set debounce time!! 0~30ms

dusky pelican
#

there is a beta version

round fjord
#

.

arctic flame
#

I assumed the person was asking for the official release date

versed relic
#

do I need to opt into the beta in the gg app to get rapid trigger?

keen fractal
#

When will Rapid Trigger be implemented?

versed relic
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somebody said today

sterile fox
#

today as in how many hours?

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could vary depend on timezone

versed relic
versed relic
round fjord
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it would be better

half dust
hallow coral
tired merlin
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officially release

hallow coral
#

if they release it today it should be from 9-11am CST

stuck yew
#

any moderator available?

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ban thebookfn, he is spamming fake update link with virus in the dms

sullen robin
#

steelseriescdn.com is the legitimate CDN url, but I'd recommend not downloading from it mostly since you could be downloading the wrong version which can cause issues with your hardware

civic sparrow
#

I'm not understanding the concept fully, can someone answer this:
if i'm moving in a direction in cs, and i counter strafe, is the benefit of rapid trigger that my movement key is being released quicker so therefore I am stopping quicker?
Or is it that I can move again after stopping quicker?

sullen robin
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kinda both? with the keys normally you'd need to release it above the actuation point to stop the input be able to press the key again, but with rapid trigger you can just lift it a little to stop the input and push it just a little to input again

viscid herald
#

when is the official release

civic sparrow
#

one more if that's okay lol

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so if I enable rapid trigger, is my actuation then changed?

sullen robin
#

i don't think so, from screenshots it looked like the actuation will still stay at whatever is set, and the rapid trigger would just work past that actuation

civic sparrow
#

just trying to figure out what my settings should be for cs, I just got the keyboard hah

sullen robin
#

so you can set it to 0.2mm and have it be super fast, or have it set to like 1.0mm so you'd have to press it just a little before it starts rapid trigger stuff

hallow coral
civic sparrow
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at 0.2mm actuation rapid trigger would barely be noticable right?

sullen robin
#

0.2 would be the starting point of the rapid trigger, so it would work anywhere between 0.2mm and 3.8mm

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or if it's set to 1.0 then the trigger would work in the range of 1.0 and 3.8mm

civic sparrow
#

but I can't control that right?

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I can only control the keys original actuation?

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or does rapid trigger override that

sullen robin
#

that's what the actuation controls

civic sparrow
#

sorry I'm wording this horribly

tired merlin
civic sparrow
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I understand on a very basic level

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give me a sec I will try and explain what I mean better lol

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ok nvm I think I get it now

sullen robin
#

so lets say you have the actuation level set to 1.0mm. in the "normal" input mode, once the key goes past 1.0mm it will start inputting that until you lift the key above 1.0mm, then it'll stop. you could push the key farther all the way down to 3.8mm and it would still just be held down in-game until you go above 1.0mm again.

when rapid trigger is on, once you pass 1.0mm, the keyboard starts inputting the key until you lift the key at all. so you can press down to 3.8mm and once you lift and hit 3.7mm it'll release the key, and you can press it back down for another input

vale laurel
civic sparrow
#

Is there a general consensus on a good actuation point for tac fps?

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or is that just complete preference

half dust
# vale laurel Could you explain to us the current RT details

there will be some documentation that goes live with the release that should explain RT. Once it's out and people are experiencing it I would be happy to explain what I can, but be aware that I'm just on the software team, and rapid trigger is mostly a hardware feature, so I don't know much about that to explain those hardware/firmware specifics.

sullen robin
vale laurel
hallow coral
#

@vale laurel it should be releasing shortly, you already have it chill...

viscid herald
hallow coral
#

I'm pretty sure he got hell for talking about it when he did

half dust
#

I can talk about it, it's just best to wait until all the information is out so it's easier to reference than a discord chat ๐Ÿ™‚

vale laurel
hallow coral
civic sparrow
#

yeah fr^^

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I held off buying either the apex or wooting until a week ago when it looked like the update was actually coming

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the wait was very rough but it feels so good in cs, even when I didn't even understand it ๐Ÿ˜„

hallow coral
#

apex pro has been awesome without it this just gives it a hell of a punch

stuck yew
#

is not official

hallow coral
#

so when you click the download on steelsiries.com/gg it opens a link that redirects you to their actual location url if you have chrome download the extension redirect path it shows you the path that a link took you to

stuck yew
#

ok where can i find the link on steelseries official site

shrewd urchin
#

it's not on the official site yet

stuck yew
#

so the link he sent is fake

shrewd urchin
#

No

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you can't find it on the site, but the update is already out on the cdn

stuck yew
#

don't care I'll wait for the official version on the app

arctic flame
#

Itโ€™s early access ๐Ÿ˜Ž

shell dagger
#

hi

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can somone help me to enable 7.1

shrewd urchin
#

Hi, you already have surround sound on :)

shell dagger
#

i dont

shrewd urchin
#

You sent a picture with spatial sound enabled

shell dagger
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bot its dont wotk

shrewd urchin
#

But it is enabled

shell dagger
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i do a test in youtub

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and its the same

hallow coral
sullen robin
shell dagger
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yes to left and right

hallow coral
west knoll
#

Everyone chill out, the link @hallow coral sent is legit, it's their official software from their official servers, just not listed officially yet, it was found out by sniffing around a bit with legit ways.

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You act like he spreads malware by linking software from Steelseries' official servers

shrewd urchin
#

"sniffing around a bit" makes it sound so complicated

west knoll
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Well, it was probably found out via trial & error (by editing the 44 link), which is what I'd call sniffing around, since it isn't listed anywhere

shrewd urchin
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for me it was just one trial

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I downloaded v44 a couple hours early, I just didn't expect v45 to be up on Saturday already

hallow coral
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well first it was checking if they had an open ftp which i didn't find calling a reseller see if I can get it that way but they had me on hold for too long, then going to the site and looking for the redirect path and testing a different file version so yeah it was a bit of sniffing

shrewd urchin
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I knew the download links from looking for engine versions a couple years ago

hallow coral
#

ahh this is the only time I was really interested in a update

wraith echo
#

the time of reckoning fellas, super excited

arctic flame
#

I feel like โ€˜Air Triggerโ€™ would be a really cool name

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or โ€˜Smart Triggerโ€™

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Idk

versed relic
#

Should I activate the beta branch to have rapid trigger?

vale laurel
#

@half dust The official version has been released, can we discuss it

dark obsidian
#

pog it actually is

noble wadi
#

pepeAgony finally

west knoll
#

lemme guess: leaked version is the same as released version

dark obsidian
west knoll
#

as if they'd update anything in that short amount of time rofl

shrewd urchin
#

it wasnt a "leaked version", its literally just the official version

west knoll
#

Officials acted like it was some kind of early version that is not recommended to download since incompatibility hurr durr

shrewd urchin
#

well, the link on the site now is the same as the """leaked one"""

west knoll
#

That's what I'm saying

glossy path
#

Is the lift distance still not customizable?

west knoll
#

Why would you want that?

vale laurel
#

If you have any suggestions for range of RT adjustment, please help me to add

arctic flame
#

There we go Rapid Trigger is now official

#

Well it already was but

wraith echo
sterile fox
#

will it brick my kb tho

arctic flame
#

Why would it?

sterile fox
#

i remember back then someone said rapid trigger is impossible to implement on apex pro

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didnt age well

arctic flame
#

Aged like milk at the bottom of the ocean

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Go update your keeb

dark obsidian
#

lmfao nothing changed from the one that we got yesterday lmao

shrewd urchin
#

why would anything change?

arctic flame
#

Nothing was supposed to change

sterile fox
#

wonder if this affect anything else, like polling rate

dark obsidian
#

well cause the one that we had yesterday wasnt released id assume they would do something else / have atleast one change

round fjord
#

that was the release yesterday..

shrewd urchin
#

it was like 3 days ago actually

dark obsidian
#

really?

shrewd urchin
#

i got it on saturday

dark obsidian
#

damn son yall ahead of the game

#

someone sent it in this chat yesterday

vale laurel
#

@half dust I would like to ask, is the RT triggered when the lift is 0.1mm now?

sterile fox
#

it worked, magic

sour prism
#

May I ask how much is suitable for Valorant๏ผŸ

vale laurel
sterile fox
vale laurel
#

The ability to adjust the range of RT is required

sterile fox
#

it surprises me how ss still havent announced this feature on their official social media accounts

strange moth
#

What happened to tournament mode like announced on the jp twitter?

#

Next update?

#

Dean if you reply with this with an eyes emoji thatโ€™s all we need

half dust
#

still planned but no ETA

calm hornet
#

Will you guys ever fix the non-functional chat mixers for PC? I have three friends and myself who uses the Arctis 7s, Arctis Nova 7s and one who has the nova wireless pro and all of us can't use the mixers and have to use Sonar's game and chat sliders to change sound

hollow stream
hallow coral
#

i like it that as soon as you lift it releases, it does takes a bit of getting use too especially with fps with wasd, especially going forward but it just took a day to adjust for me with val

velvet flint
#

โค๏ธ got the update

vale laurel
dusky pelican
#

0.1

hallow coral
#

I rather received the rapid trig like it is rather than wait another month for the adjust those are features that could be added later thanks again @half dust and dev team

sterile fox
#

steelseries doing the god's work

vale laurel
#

@half dust Could you confirm that the 0.1mm lift triggers the RT?

stuck yew
#

guys is it useful to use rapidtrigger+0.1mm?

half dust
#

that's one of those hardware questions I don't know for sure, sadly, but it sounds about right @vale laurel

sterile fox
stuck yew
#

i mean doesnt the rapid trigger need 0.15mm to then reset th ekey?

hallow coral
#

the blog says the key resets as soon as you lift your finger @vale laurel

vale laurel
#

how much do you lift๏ผŸ

vale laurel
hallow coral
#

at lease in the apex pro mini, it feels instant like micro movement, one blog or tweet i read said it was .56 or .58

hallow coral
sterile fox
#

dude this is so sensitive lmao, i like this ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

hallow coral
#

@sterile fox yeah its really sensitive I like as well

hallow coral
stuck yew
#

guys but what dopp you mean by 0.56 and 0.58?

fluid path
#

What is the firmware version of your Apexpromini?

ember ruin
#

What's wild is the continued development of firmware and features on a 4 year old board.

fair briar
#

ikr

earnest plover
#

I updated the Apex promini firmware, but since then, all keys except fn and window keys have not responded

fluid path
#

@earnest plover What is the firmware version?

hallow coral
hallow coral
stuck yew
#

0.56mm?

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doesnt make sense

stuck yew
#

is there a way to turn off oled screen?

earnest plover
#

1.13.2

fluid path
#

@earnest plover thank you. I hope it will be improved soon.

#

@hallow coral thank you.

stuck yew
#

@half dust (sorry for pinging) is there any difference between apex pro mini and tkl 2023

half dust
#

one is a mini and one is a tkl lars_hmm

earnest plover
#

@half dust

#

Plz help me

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

tulip glen
#

the main section of mini and tkl same

vale laurel
hallow coral
tulip glen
#

consider the original "sensitivity" they gave to their switch is 0.4mm-3.6mm or what it is i think the omini switch isnt that accurate for above 3.4

hallow coral
#

https://twitter.com/SteelSeriesJP/status/1694002702160916859, Also, the response time when the Actuation Point of the Apex Pro series is set to 0.1mm is "0.54ms".
The Apex Pro series maintains the fastest keyboard (as a reference value, other companies' products with the same function have a response time of 1.0ms to 1.4ms when the Actuation Point is 0.1mm)

tulip glen
#

"It's important to note that during testing with this adjustable pre-travel distance, the recorded measurement varied slightly between 0.1 mm and 0.3 mm longer than the measurement set in the software." quote

hallow coral
#

@stuck yew I guess I was miss quoting it was the response time that was 0.54ms

tulip glen
#

gotta hope steelseries release new apex omini switch if it wasnt their software failure

hallow coral
vale laurel
tulip glen
#

@hallow coral the tolerance of what omini point switch has is a bit too "big" for the rapid trigger things i assume

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i mean not a big deal, but the first 0.1-0.4mm and the last 0.5mm in apex pro is not that accurate

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its proven by "rtings.com" using professional testing mesurement

void forum
tulip glen
#

no im just saying 0.1mm might as well just equal to 0.1-0.4mm and the last 0.5mm like if u set actuating 3.5mm it might as well just be 4.0mm

#

thats why ppl "tested" and found out theres no rapid trigger after 3.4mm

#

the switch itsself is not acurate enough for the range of 0.1-0.4mm and 3.6mm-4.0mm

#

which is again why they released 0.4mm - 3.6mm as actuating point to begin with

#

and the 0.1mm-4.00mm what we got is via software update

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the rtings tested wooting and got result that wooting is accurate within 0.1mm range for 0.1mm-4.0mm

void forum
#

What is the best actuation for you rn ?

tulip glen
#

and apex pro within 0.1-0.3mm range instead of 0.1mm

#

anyways i use rapid trigger with 0.1mm but it may just same as if u set rapid trigger with 0.4mm actuating

earnest plover
#

Thank you so much

hallow coral
tulip glen
#

the link i sent

livid mason
#

I can move the key up and down and it never stops, is RT working?

tulip glen
#

well just use google its a website u gonna find in first result for any keyboard test

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at least for me*

hallow coral
#

just found it

#

you can select your own keyboard to see the difference

sterile fox
#

you should test it on notepad

hallow coral
#

lights up when you press turns gray when release

hollow stream
#

Just tried it, it's hell of a difference with and without RT

sterile fox
#

i tried it on val and i keep releasing shift lol

#

this might take a while

hallow coral
#

lol yeah it takes a bit of getting use too

#

wait when you stop going forward lol

livid mason
#

Of course I understand
But the typing doesn't stop until you get the key to the very top

sterile fox
#

lmao tru that

sterile fox
livid mason
tulip glen
#

the apex pro software is very straightfoward i dont think he doesnt know how to turn it on

surreal ibex
#

how tf do i stop my keyboard from changing colors when getting into a CS:GO lobby?

#

its vv annoying

tulip glen
#

its not keep typing its insanely amount of inputs being made i assume

tulip glen
#

cause when i go keyboard test with rt its just blinking all the time

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means all the time its being reset/triggered

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when i lift up ofc but holidng down its not reseting*

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tho holding down in windows as default u will get "repeat" by same letter anyway too

sterile fox
livid mason
hollow stream
#

Try reinstalling, maybe?

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But i guess it's on the firmware if it's a bug

livid mason
#

I have never used Wooting, but I assume it is supposed to be fast typing, even if you move the key up or down in the middle of the key

livid mason
vale laurel
tulip glen
#

@livid mason looks like ur switch has a bit deficit

#

this nerver happened to me

sterile fox
livid mason
livid mason
tulip glen
#

did u use on board setting and tested it?

#

delete apex gg like i did

#

and use onboard instead

dark obsidian
#

it def is working

tulip glen
#

but for me it was ok evne with gg

#

i just dont like gg takes 1gb at C disk

#

for doing minor task

#

theres too many excessive data there so i deleted it

sterile fox
tulip glen
#

no need to test software if u can test onboard

sterile fox
#

the board will also flash a bit when toggle

livid mason
#

I tried everything, but still no solution, so I give up
Thank you guys

tulip glen
#

i think u can try to return the keyboard

hallow coral
tulip glen
#

if they can conduct wether ur keyboard has deficit or not

still verge
#

i had a feeling rapid trigger was coming this update

hallow coral
hallow coral
# livid mason

do you want to go into a channel and share your screen

sullen robin
#

i'd restart GG and unplug/replug your keyboard, none of your on-board profiles are showing up

tulip glen
#

he doesnt have configuration

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it uses default profile

#

anyways the chances are thgeres deficite in the keybaord

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cause i never saw this kind of behaviour on my keyboard no matter rt on or no

sullen robin
#

the on-board profiles should pretty much always show up, if they don't then there's an issue with reading/writing to the keyboard which is probably the source of the issues

tulip glen
#

probably some components dead

graceful tree
livid mason
shut agate
#

Are there any hardware differences between OmniPoint 1.0 and 2.0? Or are the differences attributed to the system-level firmware or software that drives them?

tulip glen
#

no diff between ominipoint

#

at least reading their blog

#

they say no difference

#

i mean they offer omini same firmware update anyways

#

so old apex technically isnt slower

fierce axle
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@half dust I've been using the new SteelSeries Rapid Trigger update for the past 24 hours, and I've noticed that the initial key press registers much quicker than before. However, when I release the key, I'm still getting 2 bars of shooting error while using the Vandal in Valorant. This indicates that the key is not resetting as quickly as possible upon release. As a result, my character continues its movement momentum when strafing (D right or A left), and I still need to counterstrafe in order to fire accurately.

I tested my Wooting 60HE after the 24 hours of using steel series rapid trigger, and noticed the Wooting instantly resets the key upon release, which allows me to stop my character and fire shots accurately without the need to counterstrafe. I hope that SteelSeries can figure out a way to improve the Rapid Trigger so that it resets the key as quickly as possible upon release. This would be a major improvement for Valorant and CS:GO players who want to be able to fire accurately without having to counterstrafe.

river fern
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Hi there I need help I bought new keyboard and I downloaded the software and when I change actuation point my keyboard randomly starts typing stuff and opening tabs please help

still verge
fierce axle
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@still verge im sharing the difference I am noticing between the two keyboards

still verge
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ahh i didnโ€™t understand first time sorry

steep sleet
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where is my hyper trigger

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am i betrayed

shrewd urchin
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where did you put it?

void forum
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Let's go new update

vernal walrus
steep sleet
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thank you guys
i finally found it

void forum
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Rapid trigger is insane ngl

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Gonna get some time to get used to it

still verge
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yeah itโ€™s awesome just new to me

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i keep letting go of sprint ๐Ÿ˜ญ

void forum
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Then disable rapid trigger for that key

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guys i cant update my gg software at all

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Re-download gg

stuck yew
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Does my Apex pro tkl 2023 wireles spoil faster if I have the wire always plugged in?

sharp laurel
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Why would someone get a wireless keyboard just to...use it with a cable ๐Ÿค”

arctic flame
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๐Ÿง 

sharp laurel
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Their methods are beyond our comprehension I guess

graceful palm
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Hey guys, two questions before I buy my Apex Pro 2023:

  • Is the Rapid Trigger saved in the keyboard memory?
  • Is it possible to adjust the Rapid Trigger sensitivity, like in Wooting?
tulip glen
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1: on board memory yes, and it would be required to install firmware from gg first then u can use rapid trigger without gg installed in ur pc, but u need update ur keyboard with gg.

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2: sensitivity is in lowest setting andu cant change it, its just dynamic keystrike instead of static keystrike, aka if u release it reset at any point and if u press it trigger at anypoint (after ur actuating point ofc)

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i believe their implementation is quite easy since they just detect if key is lifted up then reset if not then its input

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the wooting and razer have upstrike and downstrike for u to set, tho these dont help much anyway cause ppl play valorant and cs go gonna use 0.1mm regardless whatever u can set

severe nest
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i have a weird thing happen idk if its cus of my thing but the Y key on my keyboard appeards more yellow

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like its set to white

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with the rest of my keyboard also set to white

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and its just

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yellow?

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And no thereโ€™s nothing on the light itself making it appear yellow

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What could possibly cause this??

shrewd urchin
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dead led, probably

severe nest
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?

shrewd urchin
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the blue led in your y key is dead

severe nest
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oof

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does that happen often?

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and it is fixable

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by like putting in another led

shrewd urchin
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I mean, if you can find a replacement and are willing to solder it in, maybe

severe nest
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isnt there som kind of repair thingy i can send it to?

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like a warrenty thingy

shrewd urchin
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Is it still under warranty?

severe nest
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how long is warrenty?

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i got my apex pro on 25-12-2020

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non american notation

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but ye 25th month XD

shrewd urchin
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yeah, that's out of warranty

severe nest
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F a 2 year warrenty

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how long is an apex pro supposed to last anyway?

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ik a led braking is like nothing

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but what is like average life span

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on practically daily 8hr use

shrewd urchin
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hall effect switches should effectively not break

severe nest
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ive used my apex pro for close to 10.000 hrs by rough calculations

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who do i contact to know what kind of leds to get and like if somethin can be aranged to fix it?

tulip glen
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why rapid trigger doesnt work at 3.5mm to 4.0mm zone specifically

severe nest
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prob to prevent accidental presses

tulip glen
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i just found out an use that i could hold thje key down and viberating it to multiple strike

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and it will be not possible if it doesnt work fro,m 3.5mm to 4.0mm

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im able to see at onboard screen that it moves around 3.5mm to 4.0mm

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but no reset whatsoever lol

severe nest
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but idk if that is what u meant

tulip glen
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u hold the key down

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to 4.0

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and keep holding butg instead now u jiggle ur keycaps around

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so it lifts up but woint go no more up than 3.5

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and u can see at this website

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ur key is not reseting

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the range it shwos should be 3.4m-4.0mm

severe nest
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so what do u put the config inside the engine?

tulip glen
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u have#

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on baord

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setting

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too

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im not using the engine to indicate how deep i pressed